Posted on March 1st, 2009 by Gavin M.
When Glenn Reynolds does those Instapolls that he does, they’re Instahosted at pollcode.com. In other words, we have discovered a wormhole to an alternate universe where Instapundit allows comments…
Instapundit
February 25, 2009
INSTA-POLL: So the Tea Party Movement is well underway. And I think there’s a lot to be said for the notion of demonstrating over passing the biggest spending bill in history without even reading it. If that’s not a reason for protest, what is? But should there be further goals? It’s a viral, grassroots movement, so it’s a matter for discussion, not direction. But here are some alternatives — and please discuss in the comments.
What should be the goal of the Tea Party movement?
- A balanced budget amendment.
- An amendment to limit spending to a percentage of GDP.
- Making members of Congress read the next big bill before voting.
- Something else (discuss in comments).
As Reynolds typed the phrase, “It’s a viral, grassroots movement,” he was saying something that he knew not to be true, intending that the readers of his blog receive false information. The Tea Party thing is being flogged into existence by entities including FreedomWorks, a standard-issue wingnut-welfare foundation with a specialty in online marketing campaigns; the Heartland Institute, a majorly-funded, Chicago-based junk science mill most notorious for its anti-environmental and pro-tobacco work; chumps like these people, and what seems to be a complex admixture between the right’s own transporter-accident copy of the bald cyberfuturist Seth Godin, the Twitter king Eric Odom, and his employer-until-four-weeks-ago, The Sam Adams Alliance.
From Adam Sullivan on February 25, 2009 at 10:29 am.
Get congress to meet outside of DC. Different city each time. Make them easier for you to get to and harder for lobbyists to get to.
Someone’s been reading Heinlein. Problem right off the bat: Ideas that start with a verb in the imperative (“Get…”), or with a phrase like “they should” or “someone ought to,” are probably not crafted with great care.
Also, ‘Adam Sullivan’ sounds like somebody’s name, i.e. the name that a person would have. His younger brother Dylan has a band, and his sister Nicole is considering business school. I grabbed a few of these comments on Wednesday, by the way, with meticulous randomness.
The Sam Adams Alliance is another Chicago-located wingnut foundation, apparently made of compacted, bricked money, that’s with-it about the Facebook, the Twitter, and the free blog hosting on WordPress, and hip to the trolling and policing Wikipedia using multiple throwaway identities. Also ‘citizen journalism‘ — that’s one of those hot, new, up-and-coming grassroots things where you can get people to work for free to get your grassroots message out.
If it’s unclear which of those projects are Odom’s and which are from the Sam Adams Alliance, it’s not because they didn’t explain it to us before deleting that page for some reason; it’s because you can never believe anything these right-wing PR people say, because they lie like Flight of the Bumblebee on the Sousaphone.
Anyway, the Exiled piece linked way up there, on the phrase ‘flogged into existence,’ proposes that Santelli’s spaz on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange was not spontaneous, and was instead choreographed in advance. Evidencing this is the fact that one of the instantly-appearing ‘grassroots’ websites turned out to have been registered by Odom, while another was registered six months ago by a promising local stuntster on the staff of a local right-wing talk radio host.
But hey. Fish will swim, cats will meow, and wingnuts will form activist groups with bunting–draped front ends and a rolling con game in the back. It is their way.
From Eric on February 25, 2009 at 10:29 am.
Why don’t I see public hangings listed?
It being their way, this particular effort — the Tea Party scheme — recalls Reynolds’s nominally bipartisan Porkbusters project, which was abandoned at the apparent peak of its influence for puzzle-confuse reason of why-duh?, and lives on only as a rubric under which Reynolds can investigate certain spending while researching excuses for other kinds.
From JZ on February 25, 2009 at 10:28 am.
Term limits. 1 term and your out. for good.
My 1 term is up and my out? For bad!
As with Porkbusters, behind the Tea Party scam is the old and irresoluble right-wing message that government is always spending too much money, except the military is a thing on which infinite money should be spent by government. The first part of this equation has proven to be a winning avenue of persuasion, with its natural appeal to Joe Taxpayer and the laurels of prudence that the persuaders can display on their heads as they decry waste and lament the human costs of government social engineering, and so forth.
But if Jonah Goldberg is right about anything — and unless we’re talking Spicy Baconator or Angry Whopper I’m not saying that he is — it’s that in Liberal Fascism, one can see the intermingling diversity of socialisms, fascisms, and proto-libertarian leave-me-aloneist philosophies that flourished in the years between the World Wars, before the present binary distinction between ‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ began to be projected back over history. And as it happened, the thing that most decided the pole of the binary that one would end up inhabiting once the dust had settled from the war wasn’t an identification with the left or the right, per se, or one’s position on the interventionist/isolationist question, but one’s reaction to Roosevelt and the sudden explosion of government spending (and ‘statism’) during the New Deal.
From Bill Wyatt on February 25, 2009 at 10:27 am.
Constitutional limitations on taxation, spending and budgeting (to require all present and future spending to be “on budget”. The constitutional budget and spending provisions should include a requirement that any final tax, budget or spending bill be posted to the internet in final form for general public inspection not less than 10 business days prior to a final vote. They should also include a line item veto for the executive, enforcement by taxpayer suit and a requirement that all final tax, spending and budget votes be “on the record”.
That’s actually not dumb, except in most particulars.
…And in the notion that a sweepingly broad Constitutional amendment can be secured by standing in clumps of dozens with signs that say ‘Teabag the Liberal Dems.’ But it’s not a poisonous burp.
From dossier on February 25, 2009 at 10:27 am.
Extreme focus on corruption in congress: Dodd, Frank, Burris, Pelosi, Rangel, etc. and any Republicans that behave unethically as well.
Ah, there we go. Anyone see any ethical lapses by Republicans? Heh heh, me neither. Now how about that Jumbo Jet Pelosi and her island of tuna slavery…
I’ve kept thinking since I realized it that the time between the founding of ‘conservatism’ as an intellectual tradition (in 1953 with Russell Kirk’s The Conservative Mind) and the rebellion of conservative intellectuals against the ‘pseudo-conservatives’ of the American right [point cough cough] was minus-four years.
Seriously, and still in tangent from the New Deal topic, the term ‘pseudoconservatives’ is associated with a famous Richard Hofstadter essay, although this guy says that Theodor Adorno used it first, in 1950. I say Peter Viereck, Conservatism Revisited: The Revolt Against Ideology, in 1949. Viereck was not only a conservative, but literally invented the term ‘conservatism’ in its modern usage. His own attempt toward an intellectual history, Conservative Thinkers from John Adams to Winston Churchill, also supplies the very nice calumny, “pluto-cranks.”
From TarAndFeather on February 25, 2009 at 10:26 am.
No Taxation for Nationalization!
[cough point point cough]
[Back later with Pt II, featuring bad evil Nazis!]