Destroy-Christmas Plan — Thwarted!1!!!

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Above: Erick Erickson


Hi, I’m Erick Erickson, co-founder of RedState — formerly a major conservative blog, and now, via wingnut welfare, a subsidiary of Eagle Publishing (i.e., the right-wing bulk-sales scammers, Regnery). In this, the Christmas season, it is necessary for us each year to claim that ZOMG, there’s a war going on — a War On Christmas:

Okie Attorney General Bans Christmas. Seriously.

Drew Edmondson is the out of control Oklahoma Attorney General. Recently he rounded up conservative activists and threw them in jail for circulating petitions to get conservatives on the ballot.

Now, however, Drew Edmondson has done something even nuttier. He has issued an advisory opinion from the Attorney General’s Office directing universities in Oklahoma to refrain from using the word “Christmas.”

Mark Tapscott with the Washington Examiner has the details. Mark notes, “Edmondson’s issued an advisory opinion to officials at Southwestern Oklahoma State University in Weatherford advising them that the word “Christmas” should not be spoken by any employee of the state school, not written in any official holiday decorations.”

Attorney General Edmondson can be reached at [redacted]. Call and wish him a Merry Christmas and ask why he banned the word.

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Above: Ed Morrissey


Hi, I’m Ed “Cap’n Ed” Morrissey of the major conservative blog, Captain’s Quarters. Long appreciated as among the reasonable few of conservative bloggers, I am only occasionally daffy and in dispossession of my reason, such as when I get upset about something. In this, the Christmas season, the relative value of my less-nutsity has risen to laurel me as a solon of prudential forbearance among so-called ‘conservatives’ (who are actually radically woo-woo wacky all the way around the block, except definitely don’t quote me on this, heh-heh). Um. Quod erat demonstrandum:

Oklahoma Cancels Christmas (Update: No They Didn’t)

UPDATE: I’m putting this at the top because early callers to the AG’s office claims this isn’t true, and they are wishing people a Merry Christmas when greeting callers. So I called there myself, and spoke with Emily Lang, spokesperson for the AG. Ms Lang confirms that they are greeting callers with “Merry Christmas” as a means of refuting this story. AG Edmundson did not issue this order, she insists; they are checking with assistant AGs to see if the advisory ever existed at all. At any rate, the AG does not believe state workers should refrain from Christmas greetings.

Ms. Lang wants people to know that they have a Christmas tree in the office, and hopes everyone has a Merry Christmas.

And yes, I consider this sloppy work on my part. My apologies to readers and the Oklahoma AG’s office. Original post follows ….

Hrah! You thwarters of our plan will crushed under the pine-scented runners of our fell and deadly sleigh! Your stockings will hold dreidels and Halal beef jerky and a statuette of Lord Ganesh! Your gift is an Elmo Knows Your Name in which your name is. . .Mohammed, or current resident!

Foolish Morrissey, we will cause the death of Christmas in different ways. (!!1!!!!one1)


[Coming soon: Photos of the Christmas in the City party.]
[Hanx! Seeing The Forest.]


Update: Cap’n Ed adds:

The sad denizens of Sadly, No! have decided that they can’t take a retraction with any grace and have instead focused their keen political insight on my hair and my weight. How … impressive. It’s nice to see that the middle schools have let out early for Christmas.

We did not! What are you talking about, you only-intermittently-crazy conservative person?


Update II:

HTML Mencken said:

But since he’s already accused us of it, I guess we might as well oblige him?

Got a sammich ready, Gavin?

You know, it’s objectively amazing what one can find in the unused-picture archives. Ok, Ed:

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Above: Fixing it

God, what do we ever do around here but help people with things?

Update III: Ed replies:

Well, that’s better than Mother Nature treated me.

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Above: Um, where’s our retraction, dude?

 

Comments: 87

 
 
 

The comments are precious. “The fact that we rushed to an incorrect judgment on this issue merely shows how downtrodden we are as Christians in this anti-Christian society.”

 
 

“The fact that we were wrong is central to my point!”

 
 

The right has been pulling these kinds of stunts on Edmondson for years here in Oklahoma, I think it’s because he jails criminals or something.

 
 

So is it also not true that Attorney General Edmonson ordered all grade school teachers to break out the Panzikorps Plan, which would force children to perform homosexual acts and abortions on stage while shouting about how Christians should die in order to let Muslim trees run our polluting industries?

Crap, guess I’ll have to de-activate my citizen journalist flying stalking squads and call them back in from kitchen-spying.

 
 

“The fact that we were wrong is central to my point!”

That’s pretty much the battle cry of your modern conservative.

 
 

Holy God, that Morrisey picture didn’t load at first. Looks like he’s milking that last can of spray-on hair to the very end.

 
 

The comments are precious. “The fact that we rushed to an incorrect judgment on this issue merely shows how downtrodden we are as Christians in this anti-Christian society.”

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That can’t possibly be a real quote. I call shenanigans.

 
 

No, it was a characterization of the comments.

 
 

That better be tempeh jerky, or Herr Simmons will drum you out of the brownish (unbleached hemp) shirts.

 
Jemand von Niemand
 

I begin to believe that most, if not all, Very Public Wingnuts like Morrisey are tubby white men — who could all stand in for Santa at the Mall if called upon. They wouldn’t even need padding. Only man-bras.

That’s the real Secret Of Christmas — these Chunky Keyboard Warriors defend the sacredness of the holiday with such fervor, because it means they’ll have a job at least two weeks out of the year after the economy really tanks.

 
 

Very Public Wingnuts like Morrisey are tubby white men — who could all stand in for Santa at the Mall if called upon.

As a non-wingnut who could stand in for Santa at the mall, I resent that comment.

 
 

This is a real quote from the Red State thread:

The attorney general’s office is now greeting callers with a hearty and pleasant Merry Christmas. Whether the story was true or not the error of their way was quickly understand. That was great to hear.

 
 

God damn, it’s so fucking awesome when your browser think “backspace key” = “Go back to last webpage”
Fuck.

Anyways, well what the hell does one expect from extreme far-left liberal Oklahoma?

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qsjfnyr9ec.

 
Jemand von Niemand
 

As a non-wingnut who could stand in for Santa at the mall, I resent that comment.

As a tubby white male who could stand in for Santa, I resemble that comment.

 
 

When was Capt. Ed ever considered reasonable?

 
 

Around the time I stopped being considered a moderate and became a wacky far-left moonbat. Remain still and the world moves around you.

 
 

The sad denizens of Sadly, No! have decided that they can’t take a retraction with any grace and have instead focused their keen political insight on my hair and my weight.

Well, I’d focus my keen insight on something else, but who the fuck is this guy? If only the man were of sufficient significance in this universe for me to know anything else about him.

As it is, there’s some obscure wingnut who’s fat, bald, and wrong. Yeah, like that narrows it down!
.

 
 

You’re right Ed, we shouldn’t concentrate on your Santa-worthiness. How many retractions have you issued since you voted for Bush? Let’s concentrate on those.

 
 

That last bit was funny.

I would say we can be pretty clear now that the Captain is sensitive about his hair and weight.

Which is no big deal, but funny and interesting, still. Posting a picture is not “making fun of” unless in the demons of the subjects head, of course.

 
 

But since he’s already accused us of it, I guess we might as well oblige him?

Got a sammich ready, Gavin?

 
 

Hey, when did “lookism” become part of the Wingnut issues list?

 
 

Perspective, Captain Ed. Perspective.

Posting a picture of you = Not mockery.
Posting a picture of you with a sammich = Slight mockery.
Some guy in a bar last night telling me I looked like a thinner version of Jonah Goldberg = The biggest offense I have ever heard in my life.

 
 

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Gavin M. said,

December 21, 2007 at 20:02

Um, yes.

Yay! Cuntmas comes early!

 
 

It’s weird, it’s like his hair follows you wherever you go in the room.

 
 

As it is, there’s some obscure wingnut who’s fat, bald, and wrong.

And whiny.

 
 

How do you take a retraction with grace anyway? Me no gets.

 
 

How do you take a retraction with grace anyway? Me no gets.

You pee in the face of the retractor. Not my rule, it’s just the way it goes.

 
 

The sad denizens of Sadly, No! have decided that they can’t take a retraction with any grace and have instead focused their keen political insight on my hair and my weight.

So now he’s unhappy because of my remark about his spray-on looking hair. That’s too bad- if he wants to be a professional demagogue he’s going to have to take a few lumps personally. No hiding behind a phony “issue” for you, scratchy. Anyway, I’m surprised he has took the time to visit S,N!, what with busy holiday schedule of harassing civil servants with fraudulent charges of religious bigotry.

 
 

I missed the part where SN called the shockingly obese and tub-shaped Morrisey fat and claimed his noggin had less hair than a newborn undergoing chemotherapy fresh from the barber shop.

But I doesn’t read so goods, so maybe idiot I am here.

 
 

Gentlemen,

I believe the reference to his weight and hair loss which Ed mentions is from the fact that you published his photo.

Y’know when someone is really, really, really touchy about something… or things? Yeah. It doesn’t take much to set that person off.

Shame on you for publicizing what Cap’n Ed looks like! Please keep up the good work!

 
 

I think he looks jolly, and what’s wrong with that?

 
 

How did his oil junket go, by the way?

Cause that hair looks like he might not’ve taken a shower since then.

Mmm, Oily!

 
 

You give a man the gift of hair for Christmas and he complains??

 
 

Did he not know what he looked like until this very moment???

 
Arky - Fascitanata
 

Someone tell Ed the planet’s Miserable Morrissey quota is currently being filled by this chap.

We’ll notify him if we experience a MM deficit.

(Note my complete silence on the issues of hair/weight)

 
 

I think he looks jolly, and what’s wrong with that?

He looks like the photographer told him a dead homeless person joke to get him to smile.

 
 

Arky raises a good point, which leads me to wonder: if Morrisey thinks meat is murder, and Hitler was a vegetarian, doesn’t that prove Cpt. Ed is a fascist?

I hope everyone was able to keep up with my very serious, thoughtful argument that has never been made in such detail or with such care before now.

 
 

The original blog whut “broke” this story is…. amusing.
Here it discusses having been wrong in its reporting, and why that error vindicates the “journalist” behind the “scoop”.
Can we start calling this move pulling a doughbob?

 
 

From my own link

BTW, in reading through the several comments that have been posted on this story today, I am struck by the willingness of some to accept at face value Edmondson’s statement. I wonder if these folks also accept at face value statements by President Bush, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid or House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

 
 

I bet Ed doesn’t even have the good grace to thank you.

 
 

My Gift to Pelosi and Reid, since we are in the MERRY CHRISTMAS mode is a Continuation of their Void Crania… Best gift for the Country!!!

 
Arky - Fascitanata
 

if Morrisey thinks meat is murder, and Hitler was a vegetarian, doesn’t that prove Cpt. Ed is a fascist?

No, no, no. Far too complicated.
1. Ed’s last name is Morrissey.
2. The artist currently known as Morrissey is teh ghey.
3. He causes ghey-oxygenation by singing and ghey-oxidation by causing gheys to dance.
4. LoededHosen has shown that teh gheys are der fascists.
5. THAT’S what proves Cap’n Ed is a fascist.

 
Arky - Fascitanata
 

And if you disagree with me I’ll stomp on your face with a shiny DM boot 4-eva.

 
Tim (the other one)
 

Quick, somebody photoshop a Santa cap onto Ed’s head so we can get back to Goldberg’s book.

 
 

Picture a birkenstock on a foot with daintily painted toes, mincing on a human face forever.

 
 

John Hays, president of Southwestern Oklahoma State University (12/21/07):

After the stories about Christmas were published stating that Southwestern Oklahoma State University banned the word ‘Christmas’ or Christmas decoration, I made inquiries to discover if there was any basis to the reports. The university does not have a policy that bans the word ‘Christmas’ or Christmas decorations. However, some supervisors or department leaders within the university who meant well may have suggested to employees that caution should be taken with respect to Christmas decorations. One thing led to another and the result was that some mistakenly assumed that Christmas decorations were being prohibited. I have met with various staff members to get to the bottom of the matter and have also had a pleasant discussion with Mathew Staver, Founder of Liberty Counsel.

The university will continue to follow the law and to respect the right of all its staff members. Thus, the university will follow the general principles set forth by the courts regarding the display of religious symbols and/or Nativity scenes. A publicly sponsored Nativity scene on public property is constitutional so long as it is displayed in the context of other secular symbols of the holiday, like Santa Claus or a Christmas tree, so as not to appear to be endorsing a particular religion. A privately sponsored religious symbol or Nativity on public property where members of the public are permitted to display such symbols does not need an accompanying secular symbol to be constitutional.

In applying this general rule to the university, if a Nativity or other religious symbol of the holiday is displayed in a place open to the general public (like a lobby), the university will include secular symbols of the holiday in the nearby context. However, employees in their cubicles or offices may personally display a Nativity or other religious symbol of the holiday. In such setting, the employee need not include secular symbols of the holiday. Employees have always been and continue to be permitted to greet one another with the greeting ‘Merry Christmas’ or ‘Happy Holidays.’ The decision is up to each employee.

So instead of focusing on all the end-of-semester stuff that has to get done at his university, President Hays has to deal with this idiocy.

 
 

From one of the Captain’s better albums:

I know I’m unloveable
You don’t have to tell me
Oh, message received
Loud and clear

 
 

Two things from Brad’s link:

The release quoted Matt Staver, Liberty Counsel’s head honcho and dean of the Liberty University School of Law, and noted that a demand letter had been sent to SWOSU officials.

Figuring the head of an accredited law school would not have issued a news release without having confirmed its contents beforehand, I posted on the issue here…

This might sound bad, but fortunately most of the other Liberty Law grads are in the Justice Dept, where fact-checking is not only optional, it’s discouraged.

I have no doubt that Edmondson personally didn’t provide SWOSU “legal advice” in a formal advisory opinion. The man isn’t dumb. But AGs and their staff provide informal advice every day, sometimes in person, sometimes in email, sometimes on the telephone. Sometimes even to journalists!

Maybe that somebody mis-understood something that was said to them by the AG or his staff. Or maybe that somebody simply took it upon themselves and informally advised SWOSU managers to spread the word among the troops. That somebody ought to come forward and clear up the confusion.

If they do and it turns out Edmondson had absolutely nothing to do with anything here, I will promptly retract the assertion in my original post that he was “banning Christmas” or had “issued an advisory opinion” to that effect

Ok, so he lied, but he’s gonna keep on lying until someone tells the truth, dammit!

Incidentally I heard that Tapscott likes to steal puppies from young children and rape them while they look on in horror. I have no doubt that this story is untrue, but someone must have said it, and until they reveal themselves, I will continue to report it.

 
Arky - Fascitanata
 

OMG! Could Cap’n Ed be the infamous “Suedehead”?

 
 

Awww, Cappy, we all feel unloved from time to time.

I battle those feelings by trying to make the world a better place.

What’s your secret?

 
 

That picture of Capt. Crunch just keeps getting better – kind of like the Ace O’ Spades (Heterosexual) logo.

 
 

I think he’s referring to the spray on hair remark and the tubby white men remark in the comments. And nothing else whatsoever.

If you’re than sensitive, you probably shouldn’t broadcast your obnoxious opinions on the Internet. You fat bald bitch.

 
 

Don’t you guys accept trackbacks?

Bob Owens strikes again!

 
 

How it all got started, according to the Liberty Counsel:

After Weatherford City Commissioner Warren Goldmann heard from a constituent that the word “Christmas” was banned by the university, Goldmann contacted the Provost of the university, Dr. Blake Sonove, who confirmed the “Christmas” ban policy and indicated that the university was relying on an opinion from Attorney General Drew Edmonson (who denies ever giving such an opinion). Commissioner Goldmann then reported the information to Liberty Counsel.

From their “UPDATE on ‘Christmas’ Ban in Oklahoma” liberty alert (12/20/07). That’s what they call ’em—liberty alerts.

 
 

“Some of the callers were quite upset,” Edmondson said. “The idea that a state official would ban Christmas just days before such a holy day obviously struck a chord with a number of people.

“The folks at the Liberty Counsel will find lumps of coal in their stockings on Christmas morning,” Edmondson said.

“That’s what Santa leaves for bad kids who tell lies.”
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Don’t forget to check your stocking, Ed.

 
 

That’s what they call ‘em—liberty alerts.

Liberty Alerts go easier with a glass of Victory Gin.

 
 

Warren Goldmann, hero (scroll down for his picture and bio).

 
 

Oh, Ed.
Close your eyes, and think of someone that you physically admire. And let me kiss you.

(Woo-oo-oh)

 
Tim (the other one)
 

I am so moving to Weatherford,OK. !

 
 

I love that RedState STILL hasn’t issued a retraction. Also this from the comments:

Actually, by *not* honoring the event when the rest of their jurisdiction is doing so, is declaring a war against the people of their jursidiction. Think it over a bit and see if you don’t agree here.

As a pacifist who doesn’t celebrate Christmas, I don’t know what I should do here.

 
 

Jemand von Niemand: Can you imagine D’oughboy as Santa? I can’t.

 
 

“The sad denizens of Sadly, No! have …” Are we sad?

 
 

It’s not a retraction until Captian Afro admits that the “War on Christmas” is a fallacious boogeyman, abusive of the concept of faith, used to manufacture a political result.

 
 

Merry Goddamn Christmas, you magnificent motherfucking bastards! And I say that with love.

 
 

I believe we prefer the term “Sadly, Nobodies” as described in the above post.

To be honest that is the most clever thing I have heard from a wingnut in 7 years.

 
 

Man, that ‘fro really thins Ed out. It really is the season for giving.

 
 

FoD, that puts me in mind of an author…can’t quite remember his name…something like Teigig Hoselast, who trivializes NAZI abuses in order to score political points.

They’ll never understand what they do.

 
 

FoD, that puts me in mind of an author…can’t quite remember his name…something like Teigig Hoselast, who trivializes NAZI abuses in order to score political points.

Ahh. It’s spelled Orson Scott Card.

 
 

The picture after update #3 looks like any number of my relatives in the 1970s.

 
 

The picture after update #3 looks like any number of my relatives in the 1970s.

You’re related to Sam Brownback? Condolences.

 
 

bwahahaha, love update III. Transforming Ed into one of the furry freak brothers is some feat.

 
 

All I can say re: update 3 is HOLY SHIT, there’s totally a whole dude poking out of that meteor’s ass!

 
 

Geez, update 3 looks like he’s got a Standard poodle’s ass wrapped around his head.

 
 

Tail’s missing, though. But don’t they usually dock Standards’ tails?

 
 

I thought that was “Sadlynauts.”

In a week of headsplody crazy, this was appreciated. Tanks for the giggles!

 
 

Indeed, where is the retraction, Cap’n?

Of all the conservative retards I scan, just to make sure S,N! isn’t making all this shit up, the Cap’n indeed strikes me as among the more reasonable.

But when your compatriots include Ann Coulter and Michael “The” Savage and any other number of complete racist xenophobic intellectually challenged retards, even, well, a morbidly obese person could clear the proverbial bar with a 6″ leap.

And McCain, who will win the GOP primary by default/process of elimination especially in a brokered convention, will still beat HRC.

Why? Because too many brain-wave-challenged people vote. Like, say, the Cap’n’s fans.

We are fucked up the ass like your average GOP homosexual basher.

 
 

Merry Cunt to all and to all a good night!

 
 

Has anyone said, “what does it say about Democrats that I believed this bullshit story”?

 
 

If the Captain had a ship named after Sir Francis Drake’s famous vessel, would he call his weblog The Captain’s Hindquarters?

 
 

the racism is as heartwarming as the holiday cheer.

 
 

Why do Morrissey and Erickson look like they belong on some Megan’s Law website?

 
 

solon of prudential forbearance

Ahhhhhhhh, that’s what Morrissey got upset about! In his mind, you called him a “prudish solo bear”…

 
 

[…] Update II: HTML Mencken said: […]

 
 

And McCain, who will win the GOP primary by default/process of elimination especially in a brokered convention, will still beat HRC

 
 

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