Frist. I want a medal.

Rick Perry will now never be able to convince anyone that he hasn’t had worse things in his mouth Really, I don’t care so much what goes in. It’s what comes out that’s disturbing.

(Although, the above picture won’t exactly help me sleep at night. It looks as if his jaw is about to unhinge.)

Tagfail. I was excited to almost be first. I blame Perry.

You’re fucking supposed to wear helmets.

I encourage Nordlinger (that bra bomb better work!) to ride without a helmet (or insurance). As George Carlin once said, “There’s such balance in Nature”

Perhaps wingnut identity is caused by failure to wear bicycle helmets and the resultant cranial trauma.

I rate for boxer-briefs

If Obama hadn’t worn a helmet, the complaint would have been, “How dare the President set such a terrible example of cycling safety! And to have his daughter riding with him! The shame!

Of course, This looks totes butch

I’m pretty sure Obama goes commando.

I’m pretty sure Obama goes commando.

Panty lines are unsightly when wearing mom jeans…also, apology accepted…

That would make him Commando-In-Chief, which makes sense.

He doesn’t want to crack his head open if he crashes, what the fuck

As a grown man and avid cyclist that never goes without a helmet, even just on the cruiser to the marmer’s farket, I invite Jay to go fuck himself with Rick Perry’s corndog.

Nordlinger doesn’t need a helmet for the same reason someone without hands doesn’t need gloves.

I’m starting to see what you guys mean about mangoes. **shudder**

Nordlinger doesn’t need a helmet for the same reason someone without hands doesn’t need gloves.

Heh. Hiya, Steerpike!

Hey Fenwick. How they hangin’?

I invite Jay to go fuck himself with Rick Perry’s corndog>/I>

Sometimes a corndog is just a corndog. This time is not one of them.

bbkf is contagious.

bbkf is contagious.

awesome…

And if he hadn’t worn a helmet? That would have meant he prefers his gay fisting abortions on the left side.

Heh. Firefox spellcheck does not approve of “fisting.” Or “spellcheck.”

I’m starting to see what you guys mean about mangoes. **shudder**

kg: I am in awe of the brave Sadlies who venture forth into evil swamps guarded with alligators that have deadly lasers growing from their heads (or so I am told). The heroic explorers return with mangoes of indescribeable rottenness from the wingnutosphere; the most intrepid even explore inland to the fetid swamps of comments. All who venture forth usually require gallons of brain bleach.

I invite you to remain on the boat. I like sitting a comfortable deck chair sipping mint juleps. Can I ask the steward to bring you something?

Steerpike: Low and to the left.

Got some awkward news last wee: I need more surgery. Gonna open most of my abdomen next March. Poop.

Dropped the ‘k’ deliberately. So you could riff off the mistake. Like I say, totes deliberate. Not a mistake, y’unnerstand..

bbkf is contagious.

And there is no cure.

This thread is only 24. It’s too young to die!

I had to lookup who Greg LeMond was. I thought Nordlinger meant LeMans (the auto race) for a moment.

Low and to the left

Can you sling ’em over your shoulder like a continental soldier?

Christ, what an asshole! As much as Bush was a 367 weeks of vacation during his term slack motherfucker, it would’ve never occurred to me to hold it against him for wearing a goddamn bike helmet when riding a bike with his daughters, but I guess those anti-nanny state, rockheaded, he-man Republicans like Nordlinger (snort!) just don’t want anyone telling THEM what they can do with their organ donations.

We should all donate organs. Especially to churches that don’t have really nice ones.

Fruit from the swamp:

Ironfistvelvetglove
08/18/11 16:20

Rick Perry rides mountain bikes and competes in triathalons. He also rides a Harley. Compare and contrast: Texans vs Dear Leader. While macho is not the first quality I think of as Commander-in-Chief, it doesn’t hurt.

So are you voting for 1L2Ns then?

Gonna open most of my abdomen next March. Poop.

that will be a certainty…

Rick Perry will now never be able to convince anyone that he hasn’t had worse things in his mouth Really, I don’t care so much what goes in. It’s what comes out that’s disturbing.

“I’ve got a big mouthful,” Perry said.

Fruit from the swamp:

i waded in there as well…ironfistvelvetglove also wants to molest rick perry’s eyebrows for some reason…or lack of reason…or…i dunno…

Rick Perry rides mountain bikes and competes in triathalons. He also rides a Harley.

Jesus fuck, and people like this vote. No wonder we’re circling the bowl.

“Rick Perry rides mountain bikes and competes in triathalons. He also rides a Harley. Compare and contrast: Texans vs Dear Leader. While macho is not the first quality I think of as Commander-in-Chief, it doesn’t hurt.”

Soooooooooo, I guess that means no women, huh?

God, they’re such fucking assholes. Nothing of substance matters to them. If the flight suits and cod pieces and flag pins are there ITS ALL GOOD.

*ronan* has put more thought into obama’s head size than nearly anything in his life:

Obama cannot wear headgear of any type without looking odd.
His ball caps look too large and the bike helmet just doesn’t look right on this guy.
The helmet looks especially wimpy since he’s obviously riding at a snail’s pace and his bike looks like they photoshopped
out the training wheels.

Nothing of substance matters to them

i think he will actually be relieved to hear this…

Apparently the Obamas went to a bookstore today. So, does being able to read above a first grade level without moving one’s lips indicate lack of manliness or show-offy hoity-toity elitism?

Perry either has has worse than corn dogs in his mouth or he better use some of those campaign funds to hire a full time Heimlich maneuver specialist to be by his side 24/7.

A two-second GIS turned up plenty of pics of Bush on a bike, wearing a safety helmet. But I’m sure he was in LeMond, right?

Bush on a bike, wearing a safety helmet. But I’m sure he was in LeMond, right?

but that was a mountain bike and he was badass on it and went fast and on hills and SHUT UP THAT’S WHY!!!

Can you sling ‘em over your shoulder like a continental soldier?

Off-topic autobiographiical snippet

I can’t sing at all. Was traumatized during puberty. I loved to sing and was in the church’s children’s choir. I had a solo in front of the whole congregation…and during it my voice changed (for the first time) and kept slipping back and forth.

Throughout the solo, there here riverlets of chuckling. I didn’t know what was happening with my voice and I couldn’t control it. In front of over a hundred people during a solo performance for which I had diligently prepared. There was no ill-intent in the congregation, of that I am sure {(else I would have chosen ‘snickering’ instead of ‘chuckling’))

I simply stopped singing. Dropped out of the choir. To this day, I lipsync ‘Happy Birthday’.

Instead, I developed my speaking voice and learned how to manipulate it well: I was a debater and foresenics competetor in HS,: worked three years as a professional radio announcer; was the principal briefer in my Army intelligence unit.

But I can’t sing at all.

To be perfectly honest, this is the sort of SHIT I hear from Republicans that make me want to actually go VOTE FOR OBAMA. I live in a very blue state, and I can give you a very long list of why I’m NOT voting for him (but WILL support liberal Democrats, like my own Senators and Congressman), but when I hear this “he read a BOOK! he’s wearing a BIKE HELMET! whatta PUSSY!” kind of bullshit, especially from elitist fucknozzles like Nordinger (who probably can’t even saddle up onto a Big Wheel, and who’d get his ass whupped by Tea Tards until they realized who he was, then they’d hand this millionaire all their spare change and fellate him, in his dreams, anyway) I sometimes get the urge to go into that booth next year and mutter to myself: “I hope he makes your goddamn heads explode for the next 4 years, assholes”.

Is that wrong of me?

I simply stopped singing.

Not during the solo. I gutted that out to the end.

There is no cure for bbfk Tagfail Virus. We’re all doomed. DOOMED I tell you!

It is not mandatory in MA to wear a helmet if you are over 16, but it is mandatory for children under 16, and it is required that those who rent bicycles to customers offer helmets with those rentals.

So either BarryO sets a bad example–“Why do I have to wear a helmet if you don’t, daddy?”–or he Does the Right Thing.

For once, he did the right thing. Just as Pretzel Boy always wore a helmet (and rode with Lance “I never did drugs” Armstrong).

Its as if people have totally forgotten the near-constant vacations George W. Bush took to his “ranch” in Crawford. There was a picture of Bush on his mountain bike (with a helmet!) in the paper like every two weeks.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-07-26-bush-biking_x.htm

It’s all that idiot ever did…clear brush, and ride a bike…up until 9/11 at least.

Guerrilla Voters Cadre 18

I can give you a very long list of why I’m NOT voting for him

Solidarity.

The helmet looks especially wimpy since he’s obviously riding at a snail’s pace

Omfg, he’s riding with this daughter. What’s he supposed to do, ride like the wind, all the while looking back and laughing? “OMG, Sasha, U R A LOOZER!!”

Here’s a snazzy one of Bush: http://thebikeshow.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/bush-with-bike.jpg

Fudge. That was supposed to be a nym-change. Solidarity, nevertheless.

[Perry] better use some of those campaign funds to hire a full time Heimlich maneuver specialist to be by his side 24/7

Didn’t Heimlich Himmler come up with that?

Idiots.

Rick Perry rides mountain bikes and competes in triathalons. He also rides a Harley

I am reminded of the South Park episode about bikers.

Poor Nordlinger, must suck to be that desperate for attention.

Omfg, he’s riding with this daughter. What’s he supposed to do, ride like the wind, all the while looking back and laughing? “OMG, Sasha, U R A LOOZER!!”

my thoughts exactly…i think we can all thank the isb that michelle has not shown the bad taste to eat some sort of vacation-ey, tourist-ey f00dz in public…

You all are forgetting that Bush was – always had been – the Biggest Liberal EVAR as soon as it was clear what a loser he was.

Unless it’s convenient to approve of something he did to bash liberals in a fleeting argument, then he was awesome.

He also rides a Harley

Pup? OBS? tsam? Other riders of motorcycles? Want to pour more scorn on Harleys and their riders? Or did you get it out of your systems in the last thread?

(I muchly enjoyed the motorcycle convo, btw, even though I don’t ride motorcyles.)

We are DOOMED, I tell you!

RE: Rick Perry will now never be able to convince anyone that he hasn’t had worse things in his mouth.

MY COMMENT: I don’t understand. What could possibly worse than a corn dog? A prostitute’s toe, à la Dick Morris?

I don’t really care about Obamas helmet one way or another (as an example it is good, for safety reasons it is good, as for fashion statement who cares).

But for ladies driving bicycle, either get a longer dress, or lift the saddle.
If you won’t, don’t be surprised if you get attention.

Steerpike: My eyesight is deteriorating. I read ‘sing’ for ‘sling’. The auot snipper musta seemed like a bizarre reply. Also to other reader.

Shit, if I had any sense, I would have used some riff on ‘andon’ as my nym for that one.

Apologies to all. I was only trying to plant a seed for others.

Except Perry doesn’t do triathalons, that’s the dipweed Johnson from New Mexico.

As a grown man and avid cyclist that never goes without a helmet, even just on the cruiser to the marmer’s farket, I invite Jay to go fuck himself with Rick Perry’s corndog.

Of course after Perry’s GI tract has “processed” the corndog, and the result has been bronzed.
.

The best part is Malia and Dad are laughing because they know how moronic conservatives are going to make themselves look whining about his helmet.

Boxers, briefs, helmets, wadder or folder !

As if there aren’t legitimate complaints to be made?

These people suffer from terminal vacuity.

These people suffer make a living from terminal vacuity.

Free-marketized it for ya.

Apparently Rick Perry wears helmets even though his hair is solid enough to cushion his noggin: http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/06/rick-perry-expects-to-sling-ba.html

Apologies “Fuck you pansies” to all. I was only trying to plant a seed for others being central to my point.

Wingnutified.

Most of those mangoes are tasty fresh, the only rotten stuff has been brought back to the boat.

Nerdlinger is getting hammered by a majority of the commenters.
.

Pup? OBS? tsam? Other riders of motorcycles? Want to pour more scorn on Harleys and their riders?

All that needs to be said about Harleys is that Perry rides one. No further insult is necessary, or perhaps even possible.

What… the strike through was there in the preview… test?

Aravind, preview is a lying liar who lies. Anyhoo, you have to spell out “strike” for it to really work, ‘s’ alone doesn’t work.

Aravind, preview is a lying liar who lies.

I blame Hiltre.

I’m guessing Nordlinger hasn’t been on a bike since the late eighties. That was about the last time helmet-less bike riding (or flying, thx E.T!) was passably socially acceptable.

I concur with the riders above: bare-heads just look like they don’t belong on a bike.

I’m sorry, but a grown man wearing a bicycle helmet, when he’s not training or racing like LeMond, is just — is just .

Nordlinger, objectively pro head injury.

And actually now that I think about it, in LeMond’s day, racers didn’t wear helmets all that much. Just one more way Nerdlinger is wrong.

And if he hadn’t worn a helmet? That would have meant he prefers his gay fisting abortions on the left side.

Hey, now, we all know Obama’s into fisting.

‘Crotch’ Perry?

Nordlinger would, on the other hand, be very worried if Ricky went biking without one particular piece of protective gear.

A cup.

Yes, well the simple fact you found my office makes you over-qualified.

paleotectonics !!! Where have you been? What have you been doing?

This place needs MOAR PENIS

Hey, now, we all know Obama’s into fisting.

I laughed…then made the mistake of reading the comments. Is there a requirement that you be a drooling neanderthal with about 7 personality disorders to comment at youtube? I mean…damn.

Verbatim Nerdlinger:

P.S. I understand the imperative of setting an example for your daughter. Still . . .

Still what? She’s only a darkie so it’s okay for her branes to get scrambled? The president of the United States should not be thinking of himself as a role model? Especially not for his own daughter?

I don’t get it – what could possibly go after that “. . .”?

Sometimes a corndog is just a corndog. This time is not one of them.

Or as I said on the mouse-over caption on that photo over at my joint, sometimes a corndog is just a penis substitute.

Maybe I’m biased here (and it’s a pretty backwards “family values” perspective that I’m surprised to find myself having), but a guy out for a bike ride with his daughter like that, way moar manly than even a guy wearing teh yellow jersey. Uh totes heterosexually of course.

Glued to a rock year-round and unable to self mate, a lengthy penis increases a barnacle’s odds of spreading its seed.

God. Biggest pervert on the planet.

Too bad Obama and his daughter weren’t riding fixies.

(and it’s a pretty backwards “family values” perspective that I’m surprised to find myself having)

Fatherhood changed you, man!

This place needs MOAR PENIS

Isn’t that corndog enough? Also, Pup, what suggestion do you have for watercress? I bought a decent amount, and was thinking sammiches (cream cheese, watercress).

for Pup Max, semi-on-topic PENIS.

Too bad Obama and his daughter weren’t riding fixies.

Now that you mention it, they’re skinny enough to be hipsters.

Now that you mention it, they’re skinny enough to be hipsters.

Hipster Obama would be hilarious.

A two-second GIS turned up plenty of pics of Bush on a bike, wearing a safety helmet. But I’m sure he was in LeMond, right?

Fuck!

A two-second GIS turned up plenty of pics of Bush on a bike, wearing a safety helmet. But I’m sure he was in LeMond, right?

Don’t you remember? Bush was a liberal.

Sammies, yes, fine. Soup? Ooh ooh wait … avocado and watercress salad WITH BACON. I mentioned it here once, I think.
<Majel_Barrett>working…</Majel_Barrett>

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/35137.html#comment-1202997

There we go. Post-fail of epic proportions, all for one not-very-funny line.

*Bows*

There’s as much penis inside the body as outside...

Frequently more. But I’ve said too much.

Hipster Obama would be hilarious.

Fired Up! Ready to knit!
To win the future, we must seize this Sputnik graphic tee.
A more perfect union of gluten-free beer and ancient grains pretzels.

So basically, that PENIS link of Pup’s says that some barnacles are choads.

working…

Laggy bitch!

Egg salad sammie with watercress is good too.

I made mediocre meatloaf, crap mashed potatoes and a red wine mushroom sauce/gravy that was so good you could put it on ice cream.

In my defense I’m fucking exhausted and my brain is fried. Tonight is the night I’m not on duty and I’m so happy I could cry.

I’m sorry, but a grown man wearing a bicycle helmet, when he’s not training or racing like LeMond, is just — is just

someone who is not going to risk suffering massive brain injury for a lark?

I made pizza.

I’m usually pretty traditional with pizza but I had some good Canadian bacon that I smuggled home from Toronto LEAFS SUCK so I did Canadian bacon and grilled pineapple.

I made homemade chili powder, then with that I made homemade bbq sauce, then with that I made bbq pizza on the grill. In my defense I was bored out of my gourd today.

I had some Liver with a nice Chianti.

And fava beans? Please tell me there were fava beans.

Helmet-shmelmet, what I want to know is how do these family-value asshats get away with criticizing the president for spending some quality time with his wife and daughters?

I thought that went without saying.

Well, he’s doing while being the wrong color.

…how do these family-value asshats get away with…

IOKIFYAR.

A Five Guys has opened up near my place, thanks America. I had a burger with so many toppings, the bun disintegrated.

Yer welcome.

I love 5 Guys. Guilty.

working…

Working Majel Barrett…

I made a Thai-style red curry with some chicken hearts (best part of the chicken, on sale for $1.09/lb. at a local market WOOT!!!).

Yet another cunning step in Obama’s master plan to get rid of the fReichtards by declaring Don’t Mix Ammonia & Bleach in a Big Bucket & Huff the Fumes Week. You’ll know we’re close when he speaks out against stapling your balls to your boxers. (Or briefs.)

Jay Nordlinger giving “butch-it-up” tips and advice is only slightly more ludicrous than K-Lo giving fellatio pointers.

I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU

I just rubbed some “country style ribs” (which means sliced pr0k shoulder) with my dry rub (content changes every time I make a batch) and tossed them in the oven, in a baking dish covered with foil. They will get grilled later, basted with a sauce of honey, soy sauce, vinegar, thyme, savory, cayenne, toasted sesame oil, peanut oil. Cob corn, completely shucked, will get grilled then painted with mayo, sprinkled with cayenne, drizzled with lime juice and dusted with freshly grated parm regg. “Ranch style beans” which arer my riff on a dish I learned to make in Tejas will round out the plate. Traditional strawberry spinach salad, with toasted almonds, is already done. If I’m not too spifflicated when the time comes, I’ll make a quick popover (h/t Jacques Pepin) with plum compote. Or cum plompote, whichever comes first.

I made Thai red curry chicken couple nights ago. It was…YUM. Only heart I put in it was my lurve.

All those non-helmet wearing bicyclists and motorcyclists (mopeds & scooters included) evidently have nothing valuable to protect.

Plus, somebody needs to donate organs, cause I’m gonna need a liver at some point in the not-so-distant future.

I made a Thai-style red curry with some chicken hearts (best part of the chicken, on sale for $1.09/lb. at a local market WOOT!!!).

Yes yes but WHAT ABOUT THE CRESS? MY GOD MAN, WHAT ABOUT THE CRESS?

Pup out-pr0ns us, as usual.

Fenwick,

Why how civilized of you to offer such refreshing libation. I’ve just only now recovered from the comments over on yon’ fetid shores. Feeling better already.

Just got done making an aged hot sauce from 3 habaneros,6-7 cherry red peppers, about a dozen cayennes, some serranos and super chiles. boy was that red!!! in 3 months I’ll be one happy brother. Basically 3 ingredients : peppers, salt and vinegar. Cook the peppers for 20min, food process the shit out of that for several minutes then transfer to sterilized bottle protected from light and happy thanksgiving BEEEEEOTTTTCCCCCHHHEESSSSS!!@@

Nordlinger in hosen.

Sounds like a porno…

Re spicy food: I was never that into heat for the sake of heat. Sure, there were was that time in college when we would go to the bar/restaurant, order the ultra death wings and take our own extra cayenne, but… I have a fairly high pain threshold, trust me, but I think maybe my sensitivity to capsaicin is in converse proportion. Too much heat blows out my taste buds, and what I really want is flavor, not heat. I sometimes become condescending, thinking that “more heat is better” is a PENIS enlargement thing.

I strip the ribs and seeds from jalapeños. I use cayenne regularly but in limited quantity. I adore hot horseradish and wasabi but as an accent, not things in and of themselves.

So I must ask: is it the _flavor_, the heat, both, …? I just don’t get it.

I fucked Rick Perry in the ass. Hard.

Rubbing the ribs.

Had a ham sammich fer fast breaking. Did TWO LOADS of laundry. May have to eat again.

Hasn’t anyone found the shot of Bush sporting Crocs while biking yet?

Big ups to The Prez for not wearing shorts like Bush & Perry.

Raw veggies and rice but who cares since I washed it down with B^4’s white lightening.

However:
Egg salad sammie with watercress is good too.

Lunch, tomorrow.

So I must ask: is it the _flavor_, the heat, both, …? I just don’t get it.

Both, but I worship the heat in private the way wingnuts forget to say their prayers.

Dunno, but I just don’t like the flavor of jalapeños. Cayenne, wasabi, fine by me.

B^4?s white lightening

Isn’t he white enough w/o lightening hisse’f?

Yes yes but WHAT ABOUT THE CRESS? MY GOD MAN, WHAT ABOUT THE CRESS?

Didn’t eat it yet!

Raw veggies and rice but who cares since I washed it down with B^4?s white lightening.

Good, did you chill it really well?

B^4?s white lightening.

Same stuff he sold To Michael Jackson?

Aaaaah, FY MB! In a totes non-gay way.

Limoncello, I presume?

Not quite OT

Limoncello, I presume?

The name’s Livingston, sir.

Not to worry, we both got a funny out of it! (Yours possibly even better!)

And my mistake, Bush wasn’t biking. Ankle socks totally non-manly too, btw.

Speaking of cress and PENIS,

Limoncello, I presume?

Da vero, amico! I have two bottles of grain alcohol sitting on the floor, and haven’t even bought the lemons to make the next batch. Yeah, been slacking.

I used to be a little lackadaisical about bike helmets, if I wasn’t going to be out in traffic. Then one lazy day while going about five miles an hour down a totally deserted street, I caught my front wheel in a half-buried old trolley track, tried to turn, and went down faster than Perry on a corndog. It so happened that I *was* wearing a bike helmet that day. It made a very loud noise as it smacked directly onto the curb and cracked in half instead of my head. I found that sound very convincing, in much the same way that Nordlinger isn’t.

Waitaminit, are you screwing up Everclear w/ fruity flavoring?

Go on & larf, but if any of you punks make it to my age your cock will probably a leekie too.

Bike helmets? WIMP-O-RAMA!
Adult diapers & a feeding-tube? ULTRA-MACHO!

Evidence that the Wingularity is yet to come = Nordlinger is indeed encountering a wave of unwanted surprise buttsex from the NRO commentariat. If only they could spare some of that common sense for things like taxation or foreign policy.

Also: snarking about something with no picture or link to the target of your snark? FAIL.

Beelzebub on a bike, if you missed the ASW™ comments, you might have missed that this was brought up last yr., & not by Nerdling, neither.

went down faster than Perry on a corndog.

Best turn of phrase all day. Martini?

I had a horrible microwave “meal” paired with a delightful 750ml bottle of farmhouse ale. The beer more than made up for the food.

And my body rebels if I eat anything stronger than a bell pepper, but I can down horseradish or wasabi like mad.

Downing the horseradish.

Also: in terms of Girly-Man Factor measurement, just like Crotch Perry, the last POTUS was a fucking male cheerleader – Barack Obama could collect butterflies & be a ballet afficionado & he’d STILL have 20X more Man Points than George Walker “Horses Are SCARY!” Bush.

Also too, re Perry/Shrub: spending circa a year fried 24/7 on weed, blow & booze whilst AWOL from duty in a Champagne Squadron versus getting a deferment – I wonder which one wins the Macho Sweepstakes?

True: Rick Perry was also a cheerleader. At A&M, if memory serves, which means he was/is a bottom.

Cheerleader or no, he sure knows his way around PENIS-shaped objects.

I mean, seriously, about the only phrase that captures that photo is “cock-gobbler”.

At A&M, yes. But they’re called yell leaders there. Dig the pix, as yeller & Corps of Cadets member. Yeesh.

Crotch actually served five yrs. in the AF, flying C-130s, & made captain. OMG, it’s Major Kong!!

Well, I went to the link and read some of the comments. At least I won’t need to eat dinner now…what a bunch of badly-endowed mouthbreathers, over at America’s Shittiest Website.

And yeah, I’m a grown man and wear a helmet whether racing or not. So piss off, Jay, you fat fat femme fuck.

Well, between crap like this and Rachel’s segment on how Republicans blatantly rejects ideas that they come up with that Obama adopts (because I guess it’s easier to reject it outright then acknowledge that they’re getting much of what they want), I really think that the only way we’ll fix the economy is if Obama proposes that rich people pay no taxes for the next 80 years. The GOP would reject it because Obama suggested it, and will counter with a tax hike just to be oppositional. The economy will be eventually stimulated, and they can (more like will) take credit.

If you missed it, excerpts from Pup’s link at 2:56.

Longer isn’t always better, according to some men, and it seems the same is true for barnacles, too. The hermaphroditic filter-feeders can grow penises up to eight times their body length – they have the longest penis length relative to body size in the animal kingdom – but new research suggests that stouter members are sometimes more effective for mating.

Glued to a rock year-round and unable to self mate, a lengthy penis increases a barnacle’s odds of spreading its seed.

The animals regrow their penises each year, just before their brief mating season, and previous research has shown that water conditions play an important role in shaping the budding penis.

In calm waters, acorn barnacles grow long, flexible members in order to reach as many mates as possible. However, in choppier waters, the barnacles develop more muscular penises with far less reach.

“It’s kind of like toughness versus flexibility,” says J. Matt Hoch, a marine biologist at Stony Brook University in New York, who tested whether barnacle penis plasticity actually affects reproduction.

((BBBB: I know you enjoy odd life forms past and present. Go the link for more details.))

Huffing and puffing–but NOT cigarettes!–to catch up with the rest of you.

Fired Up! Ready to knit!

Heh.

Hey Fenwick. Who won the ball game, huh? (Just kidding, don’t huff & puff.)

When you move to NM, you can be an Isotopes fan.

I made mediocre meatloaf

I read this as ‘medicare’ meatloaf. I was prepared for ingrediants made of condiments….

I’m fucking exhausted and my brain is fried. Tonight is the night I’m not on duty and I’m so happy I could cry.

Have a restorative sleep. Your bebe has a wonderful mama.

Thanx to Pup Max for the super-duper-fine food pr0n !

PENIS!* & GAY PENIS!

Both from Tucker Carlson’s electronic cage-liner. Why am I not surprised?

*Why you should cut that foreskin off. (You’ll develop squamous cell carcinoma if you don’t.)

I’m gonna need a liver at some point in the not-so-distant future.

creature: I hope that’s not some drinking joke that I don’t get. (Stuff flies right by me here.) Haven’t seen you in the threads of late. Are you okay?

Who won the ball game, huh? ….When you move to NM, you can be an Isotopes fan.

Here are current standings for the World Sewers post-season play:

.431 Seattle
.405 Kansas City
.385 Baltimore
.328 Houston

I started as a fan of KC … then switched to the Woes after moving to Clam City.

When I move to Albuquerque I will probably bring the same inexplicable curse to the Isotopes. (I saw them play, btw, while visiting my brother. They lost.)

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Excerpt from MB’s (second) link above.

The goal of the study was to understand the “real individual-level consequences of living in a penis-centered society.”

Ask the wimmins and gurlz, too.

Good catch! Didn’t get that far.

Kind of pulling for the Brewers, what w/ their cool initials & never having won the Series.

I’m a grown man and wear a helmet whether racing or not

Awkward in bed and in the shower, I would have thought.

Obama is riding with hid daughter and it’s likely she’s not too jazzed about wearing one, so it’s the right move as a dad for him to put one too. It’s never a bad idea to put one on in the first place, because just like walking around the house and up and down stairs, shit can happen.

Including falling out of bed & slipping in the shower.

I’m a grown man and wear a helmet whether racing or not

Well, we all have to have our perversions, and Im not a man to judge…

Helmuts spoil the mood while teabagging.

It’s dangerous enough biking out there on the roads with people in SUVs driving with their knee while holding the cell phone with one hand and a coffee in the other hand.

Bike paths aren’t much better since they’re actually jog, walk your dog, push your stroller anything but ride-a-bike paths.

Damn right I’m wearing my helmet.

Helmuts spoil the mood while teabagging.

Speak for yourself, liberal,

All that needs to be said about Harleys is that Perry rides one. No further insult is necessary

So did another Texas Governor.

[…] via Sadly, No. […]

Whoring PENIS.

Rick Perry gives an old-timey salute.

I ruin what now?

Shorter Nerdlinger: Isn’t it disgusting that we have a Negro president who rides a bike he didn’t steal and who wears a helmet instead of dreadlocks and a backwards Yankees cap? I mean, how does a Conservatard reptilian brain get triggered to HATE the Negro on sight if he’s acting all white and respectable! We better double down on that fake birth certificate thing. Oh and I hate the little girl on the bike too because she ought to be in a ghetto somewhere getting pregnant.

Shorter Nerdlinger: Isn’t it disgusting that we have a Negro president who rides a bike he didn’t steal and who wears a helmet instead of dreadlocks and a backwards Yankees cap?

What compelled you to write something far more stupid than what Nordlinger wrote, RWW, a sudden competitive streak?

N_B, oh good grief.

RWW–pretty much.

BTW, I am getting my hair colored as I type this. The colorist handed me 3 essentially tabloid mags. Apparently lots of celebrities are cheating on each other. Apparently this devastates me. AND WHEN IS JEN GOING TO FIND A GOOD MAN?!!!

Dennis, I believe that RWW was commenting on conservative stereotypes of AA’s. Geesh.

Someone school Dennis on what ‘teh shorter’ meanz. He’s got ADD or was left behind a few grades.

Jen who? Wait, I really don’t want to know, just forget I said anything.

Dennis is aware of all Internet traditions.

Pup? OBS? tsam? Other riders of motorcycles? Want to pour more scorn on Harleys and their riders? Or did you get it out of your systems in the last thread?

Harley guys here are funny. If you’re on the Natchez Trace, all of them will give the wave to you on your scooter. Anywhere else in town, not bloody likely.
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Raw veggies and rice but who cares since I washed it down with B^4?s white lightening.

How does one lighten white?
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Attend a Tea Party rally.

Vacuumslayer for the win!

So can anyone slay vacuums, or is it a “chosen one” type thing?

How does one lighten white?

I got it. Chainsaw.
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So can anyone slay vacuums, or is it a “chosen one” type thing?

You must pull the telescoping wand* from the stone.

*Vyouknowtherest

WC–the crevice tool! The key is the crevice tool. But ive said too much…

And yes I am the Chosen One. I’m just like Buffy except no one gives a shit about what I do.

Coloring update: People keep walking by and staring with a slightly horrified look on their face. I’M TAKING THIS AS A GOOD SIGN!

Coloring update: People keep walking by and staring with a slightly horrified look on their face. I’M TAKING THIS AS A GOOD SIGN!

I could never stay inside the lines, either.
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Someone school Dennis on what ‘teh shorter’ meanz. He’s got ADD or was left behind a few grades.

Yeah, RWW, please school me on what shorter means. Because if I took it in the context you just provided, it means you get to make stuff up by just simply inserting the word ‘shorter’ before you start fantasizing.

Shorter RWW: “What a powerful word we have here, ‘shorter’. Yeah, absolves me from sounding stupid when I say stupid things. How awesome!”

Someone please school Dennis on “parody.”

First-time listener to S,N!Radio?
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You know what’s an awesome way to spend an afternoon? Trolling a liberal snark blog. Everybody’s so serious, it just makes it so easy to deflate them.

Good idea, there, Dennis. What’s the matter, Stormfront down?

Hmmm, I know conservatards don’t like public schools, but they do like nostalgia, so here goes. Sometime back in the Ford administration when I was in public school, 4th or 5th grade, they taught us what “read between the lines” means. That is, finding intended meaning or subtle context in a piece one reads. This was accomplished by providing students with samples from authors, Mark Twain comes to mind, and the student was then asked to write a piece on what the author was really getting at – more than just the direct narrative of the author’s piece.

Here’s an extreme example for Dennis. The Shorter Mein Kampf: here’s a plan to kill six million Jews and countless millions of others in order to promote a crackpot theory of racial and cultural superiority.

Dennis: RWW, why do you say things that are worse than what Hitler said, are you trying to compete with him for being awful?

RWW: (sigh)

You know what’s an awesome way to spend an afternoon? Trolling a liberal snark blog

Shorter WC: “A much better way to spend an afternoon is to act pissed at someone for trolling a liberal snark blog.”

That’s nice, Dennis.
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Sadly, Dennis is not Aware of All Internet Traditions.

RWW, I hear you, I know what you are saying. It still doesn’t make sense. Nordlinger said something stupid. It may not look all that cool for a grown man to put on a bike helmet when he’s going for a leisurely ride with his daughter on vacation, but you know what, it makes me like him more for doing it, because his daughter probably wanted to wear one a lot less than he did. But Nordlinger compared him to Dukakis, a white guy. Nothing he said was even remotely racist. You’re just looking for an excuse and taking fantastic leaps of logic and giving yourself cover by preceding it with the word ‘shorter’.

Pretty weak.

Dennis is astounding opaque. Obtuse, also too. Oblivious, even. Obvious as well. Odious, not to mention.

Yo, Tintin actor, suck on this.

Tintin’s whole take is that the Negro president will never get a break from the Reichwing. I know now Tintin was 100% wrong because YOU, Dennis, are giving Obama a break. Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying one good thing about our president, even half-heartedly and reluctantly, and for coming here and calling me stupid for pointing out the obvious racist hatred that defines the Reichwing. You’ve proven there is no racism on the Right directed against this president. All is forgiven and we can all go home now.

You have a whole ocean of examples from which to choose to make that point, R-Dubya.

This one was not one of them.

Not even with the word ‘shorter’.

Not even if you invoke Hitler.

Not even if, after all, this is a snark blog and the blogowner promotes the idea.

Wow a genuine concern troll.

I usually see those on serious websites. I’m not sure how that’s supposed to work on a comedy blog.

Are we supposed to go, yes, we were so so bad making fun of horrible people and not being fair to deliberately obtuse methods of reading. OH YES, so bad, spank me harder, I never. Ever. Should have used snark as a coping mechanism against the horrors of the right wing and should instead view them as well-meaning people. Now hit me with that complete lack of understanding of the concept of shorter even though the concept has a link at the front post. OH YES! HARDER!*

*NVAABR

Shorter WC: “A much better way to spend an afternoon is

…to wash my car?

…to install Pylons so I can experiment with a web app I need to put together?

…to point at the stupid guy and laugh?

I report, you decide.

I didn’t know I was limited to using the Dennis-approved examples from the ocean he can now go drown himself in. I’d rather just keep pissing him off.

How’s this Dennis?

Nordlinger wanks poetic about yet another reason Obama is unqualified to be POTUS; the way he looks in a bike helmet.

Enough code words in there for you?

The goal of the study was to understand the “real individual-level consequences of living in a penis-centered society.”

Well, for one thing, it results in the production of ridiculously large corndogs.

People, can’t we get along? Can’t we all agree that Nordlinger is an asshole of such astronomical dimensions he’s most likely orbited by a number of smaller assholes?

Oooooh, a troll! Hey Dennis!

You know that Nerdlinger also cites Kanye West in that same post we’re making fun of. Right? Anyways, just a quick reminder – we’re talking about Jay “I’m a Teabagger” Nerdlinger here. The d00d what said:

It could be that conservatives will ‘own the insult’ and use ‘teabagger’ as a badge of honor. It could become some proud conservative N-word.

Wait. Maybe Dennis is teh reader who sent this letter to Jay!

Can’t we all agree that Nordlinger is an asshole of such astronomical dimensions he’s most likely orbited by a number of smaller assholes?

A congeries of incontinent assholes?

Lagunitas is amazing. Siriusly.

It could be that conservatives will ‘own the insult’ and use ‘teabagger’ as a badge of honor. It could become some proud conservative N-word.

If they take the sting out of the word “teabagger”, we’ll have to come up with a new insult, like “corndogger”.

It could become some proud conservative N-word.

Jay, don’t you think the word “Republican” already fills that need?

If they take the sting out of the word “teabagger”

Yeah, good luck with that effort, Nordly. If those guys weren’t perpetually butthurt they wouldn’t BE teabaggers.

I “love” (for given values of love that equal hate) how the right-wing managed to do a real-time historical revision of events occurring at the same time when it turned out they chose as the name of their astroturfing outfits the name of a fairly famous sexual activity.

Despite them using it the day before, suddenly once it was pointed out, this word was totally just like n***er and something their enemies used to mock, belittle, and intimidate them.

Yup, it was totally “our” idea to come up with a word that made you look like the disconnected repressed idiots you are.

Especially hilarious seeing how “tea party” is almost as bad. I mean, what’s the cultural cue you get from “tea party” in this modern society. Little girls pouring imaginary liquid into toy plastic cups in front of their stuffed animals which are by law required to contain at least one cuddly teddy bear or rabbit. That’s the image everyone has of a “tea party”. And it doesn’t help that image when the Tea Party is an aggressively ignorant group of people obsessed about imaginary problems, demanding undue focus and respect for being a tiny mockery of actual protest movements, and are wholly wrapped in a fictional world of their own creation.

We use “teabagger” because that’s what they fucking used and it’s fucking hilarious that they spent months talking about what a proud tradition teabagging was and how they wanted to teabag congress.

Also, the fact that they used that proves that they are all unloved grandparents estranged from their children and grandchildren, because these days that’s the first word that a young person learns playing video games after “niggerwhorefag”

The social contract, and good faith. It supercedes all else. What is justice about?

Names, everyone wants to know their real name.

Yeah, “teabagger.” But who can forget NOM’s “M4M” campaign. Highlarious.

The encouragement of the belief in the prevalence of mysogeny, is a catalyst for creating mysogeny. It is so contrary for so many to have the belief that men are more inclined to be violent, or sex offenders, or perverts. It’s a myth, men aren’t bad, and women aren’t weak. Sex offenders are indiscriminate, a threat to men, women; children, and the eldery.

Water. Boil your water. Everyone.

No more paycheques for the nazi’s. Most especially military, and security.

The soother, freulein? For who, and for you? It’s a loophole, and then there’s the virus… who would make love spread like a virus? Oh, and off-topic, there is no such thing as an std. And how could be dirty be good and so very bad? That’s gross.

Potatoes. Hot.

The lightbulb, it’s important, the grouping, the lightbulb above the head, the flashlight, and luminenscence of living beings aka humans.

Cold blue eyes. What is the chemical compound?

ATTENTION NAZI’S. Being a nazi means agreeing to the terms of facism, and policies of torture, murder and sadism. You, by choosing to be a nazi, are respinsible not only for the oppression of others, but the oppression, torture and possibly murder of yourself. You are responsible for the attempts on the life your personality, your supposed identity loss, your groupthink. Forced sex change operaton? Policy of the nazi’s? You were a nazi when it happened? Then, you agreed.

Lots of badgers doing half-hearted jumping jacks this afternoon.
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I’m pretty sure that means… links to cat photos!
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No food pron while I’m on the road with a teeny tiny keyboard but it’s a good time of year to be on the coast of Maine. Just making it known that I’m lurking.

Oh FY El M. I could SO go for a lobster roll just now.

re the spicy hott!!!! vs just flavorful it should be both which is why we remove seeds and ribs, mix the peppers up and age our hot sauces. it will still light your shit up (esp w/habaneros even w/ seeds removed) but you can pick out flavors.

PENIS

Call me crazy, but I think Andon might just be copying and pasting random strings of text.

It is my understanding that others are having difficulty accessing my notes. There is official statements from The Pacific Army contained therein, as well as other very relevant information.
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Jenny Joelle Viewing these notes, therefore, will require a extensive scrolling, there is local, international, scientific, and political information contained in these notes, as well as some of my personal story, which could help to clarify some things about the state of world. Please take the time to read them.
We are an international organization, a recent inception, our numbers growing daily in many countries. I have been consulting with persons from all over the world, some on a friendlier basis than others, including field workers, military officials, police officers, prisoners, wardens, scientists, people in the sattelites, information taechonology prfessionals and goverment officials. There are many of us who are working cooperatively, and independently, from all over the world, to bring about a condition of peace and end tyrancy.
Sincerely, The Pacific Army.

More badgers!
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I wonder if he knows…
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I understand the point of trolling. Exactly what is the point of what andon does?

So, VS, how’s the hair? Does puce go with your tan?

What are UFO’s? We already know. The sattelites need to come down, in a no-fly zone.

I understand the point of trolling. Exactly what is the point of what andon does?

Disruption. To drive people away.
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Yeah, fuck those UFOs! Damn Greys!

You know that Nerdlinger also cites Kanye West in that same post we’re making fun of. Right?

Ok. This means what, exactly, Wangchuck?

So, VS, how’s the hair? Does puce go with your tan?

Surprisingly yes! And, yes, my hair did end up a tad purple. The joke’s on me, ‘cuz I was just giving people shit at my blog for liking magenta hair.

Disruption. To drive people away.

Unfortunately that totally works when one doesn’t have a killfile installed. I only have it on my desktop. 🙁

As an eight-year veteran of Eschaton, having witnessed three separate commenting platforms, I feel it’s safe to say I have seen every trolling methodology ever conceived.
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Aren’t you lucky?!

I will say this, though. I’m impressed with the breadth of andon’s trolling. I’ve learned so much about “Nazi’s” with a possessive “s” and also brisket from Wal-Mart.

I can’t honestly say I’ve ever read any of it. Once I realize I am reading utter nonsense, I scroll on by, even when BadgerGuard is not in place.
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Yeah but I already know more about brisket than, probably, anyone else here (not waving my PENIS, I have long made brisket a specialty). And I NEVER shop at WalMart.

I’ve got a big batch of horchata brewing in prep for or first 90 degree weekend. And turning once again to Jacques Pepin (who is a fucking god, I telz ya, a god) for tonight’s food pr0n. Chicken tonnato: chix breast poached in rich broth served with tuna sauce a la vitello tonnato. (BTW, KQED has the whole boatload of his Fast Food My Way episodes online, bless them.) Salad w/ strawberry, spinach, cuke, minced red onion, toasted almond, lemon poppy seed vinaigrette. I may just skip the starch tonight, especially if I start martiniing early as tends to happen on a Saturday. Okay, it tends to happen every day but that does not make the previous statement untrue. Hmm, maybe some garlic bread….

I’ll pick up a couple bottles of good rose, perhaps. Ice cream with crumbled orange pistachio biscotti (again, h/t to the ever brilliant JP).

Oh, one more thing: phtphtphtphtttpht

Pup, I’ve never made brisket. How do you do yours?

A brisket, Nebraskat, a basket full of Triscuits.
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Smoke it. Braise it. Corn it. Sometimes corn it then smoke it with a coriander and blak pepper rub – pastrami!

Julia Child, IIRC, is the original source for my braised brisket. I’d bet you can find her recipe online. I may have mentioned it before but it bears repeating: The Way to Cook is the best “cookbook” EVAH. Get it.

Keep up with the food talk. Tomorrow I’m prepping for a colonoscopy Monday.

Here is an example of why The Way to Cook is not just another cookbook, it’s more a complete course in cooking.

“When meat is stewed or braised it is cooked so long that its juices have
combined with and enriched the braising liquid – giving the braising liquid
its wonderful flavor but leaving the meat dry. It most definitely wants a
sauce cover of some sort. The same is true of [preceding recipes]; their
sauces are the cooking juices thickened with a beurre-manié flour-butter
paste, or the ragout type, where the meat was floured lightly before
browning. You may use either of these two systems for any of the
braised meats…but here are three more ideas to fill you out on the
complete sauce picture. [Isn’t she wonderful?]

What’s that you say Pup, your PENIS is as long as a brisket?

Verrrrrry impressive, my friend.

BTW, Jeffreham, I never got around to asking what it was that finally made you sick of Eschaton, or at least tired enough of it to venture elsewhere. Of course you’ll recall that I left years ago after being informed that my services were no longer needed.

Tomorrow I’m prepping for a colonoscopy Monday.

Oh lovely. The prep is so much worse than the event. Here’s hoping they don’t find anything.

WC is correct. The prep is way worse than the procedure, for which they at least give some drugs. At least it’s only every ten years, we hope.

BTW, Jeffreham, I never got around to asking what it was that finally made you sick of Eschaton, or at least tired enough of it to venture elsewhere. Of course you’ll recall that I left years ago after being informed that my services were no longer needed.

Well, I dunno that it’s a permanent vacation, but presently, I’m not very happy with the commenting system (or the way it is being administered, one). It actually worked quite well for a while, but a few days ago, it started doing some stuff that was either heuristics run amok, or A-man tweaking some settings to make it unfriendly to cat pimps like me. 🙂
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start martiniing early as tends to happen on a Saturday. Okay, it tends to happen every day

*sigh*

I miss my liver.

I miss my liver.

I feel mine floppin’ around, today. Just coffee for me tonight, thanks.
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The animals regrow their penises each year, just before their brief mating season, and previous research has shown that water conditions play an important role in shaping the budding penis.

shaping the budding penis!!!1!111

I swear, you guys ain’t even trying today!!!11!!

PENIS

Well, ok. Not so much PENIS as Koch

You have to wonder if the guy is trying to sharpen the cliffotines.

I mean, the S, N’ers I know would’ve been all over that budding penis………

I mean, the S, N’ers I know would’ve been all over that budding penis………

Everybody has an off day, man. Nice catch.

You have to wonder if the guy is trying to sharpen the cliffotines.

Nope, it’s un-self-awareness on a massive scale. He really thinks his 5% to charity is every bit as good as an entire infrastructure built to serve 300 million people.

Nope, it’s un-self-awareness on a massive scale. He really thinks his 5% to charity is every bit as good as an entire infrastructure built to serve 300 million people.

Especially considering that the bulk of his “charity” is funding for CEI, AEI, Cato, and the like.

Leave no wingnut toady behind!

what did zero say to eight? NICE BELT!

Why is 6 afraid of 7?

Because 7 8 9.

Week

Veal.

Waitress.

Tip the veal. Try your waitresses.

It is at this point that the story became awesome:

To summarize his view in the words of a better philosopher, Crow T. Robot: “I want to decide who lives and who dies.”

OK, some food pr0n. Sure, it’s not the triple X stuff Pup brings us, but, hey, I feel like sharing.

So anyway, I took some flank steak and marinated it in some lime juice, soy sauce, fish sauce, garlic, ginger and red pepper flakes. And then Mr. Slayer grilled it. I served it with fresh lime juice and scallions sprinkled over top on a bed of rice.

Accompanied by sugar snap peas coated with sesame oil, lemon juice, brown sugar, and soy sauce.

IT WAS PRETTY FUCKING TASTY.

WHAT? WHERE’S THE FUCKING CUMIN?

Also too, that chicken tonnato, Jennifer? With CAPERS! LOTS OF TART CAPERS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The real question is, what booze did you serve with it?

I thinly sliced some beef heart (heart, being muscle, is the gateway organ meat, and it’s cheap) and stir-fried it with onion, garlic, and bok choy, adding soy sauce, sesame oil, and sriracha, serving it over rice. Cheap, and effective.

Try a tip: veal your waitress.

veal your waitress.

Last time I tried to cop a veal she slapped me.

Can you veal the love tonight?

WHAT? WHERE’S THE FUCKING CUMIN?

Cumin would have been great. Coriander also too. Plum forgot ’em.

Can you veal the love tonight?

Spearhafoc is banned.

Sadface.

I thinly sliced some beef heart (heart, being muscle, is the gateway organ meat, and it’s cheap) and stir-fried it with onion, garlic, and bok choy, adding soy sauce, sesame oil, and sriracha, serving it over rice. Cheap, and effective.

Oh god. That sounds offal.

Well, that settles it, I have to become a troll.

Bookmark it, Libs!

Sadface.

I only ban people who have delighted me with their delightfully bad (but really good) puns.

I learned how to make a pasta salad when I first lived on my own after high school.In those days we called it leftover kraft dinner with ketchup.
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As I got older I became more sophisticated and replaced the ketchup with that old gourmet standby, hot sauce.

All kidding aside, a cold pasta salad is something you can make with minimal ingredients, and still have a great tasting dish. They make great side salads or full meals.

Here are the Basic Ingredients:
1-Pasta

Shaped, colored, tubular, flavoured, lots to choose from. I like to buy a bag of mixed as it adds a nice colourful look to the dish.

2-Vegetables

Anything goes here, whatever your tastebuds desire. The popular ones being…

Celery
Onions-any kind
Olives
Carrots
Broccoli
Tomatoes-small cherry
Cucumber
Peppers-green, red, yellow, orange, jalepeno

3-Other

Garlic
Parmesan cheese
Salt Pepper, Spices
Chicken
Seafood

4-Dressing

You can add your favorite bottled dressing or make one from scratch. Here are 2 basic ones:

Creamy

1 cup mayonnaise
2 tbsp. wine or cider vinegar
1 clove crushed garlic
1 tsp. basil
salt and pepper to taste

You can substitute yogurt for mayonnaise or mix mayo and yogurt together for your dressing base.

Lemon juice can be used in place of vinegar.

Oil/Vinegar

1/4 cup salad oil
3 tbsp. vinegar-balsamic,wine, cider etc.
1 clove crushed garlic
1 tsp basil and/or oregano
Salt and Pepper to taste

Boil your pasta noodles for about 10 minutes or until cooked. Drain and rinse in cold water, and let cool.

While noddles are cooling, chop up any vegetables you are adding, and make dressing.

Once cool, add all other ingredients you have chosen from the above list, adding the dressing last.

Cool in the refrigerator for about 2 hours before serving.

Get it? Copy “pasta”?

Eh? Eh?

d’oh!

I grilled some lamb chops with Moroccan seasoning and grilled some baby eggplant with a fresh tomato sauce.

I grilled some lamb chops with Moroccan seasoning and grilled some baby eggplant with a fresh tomato sauce.

Oh, it just got XXX up in here.

I don’t get it.

Btw, vs, that marinade, without the nam pla and ginger, is verra close to my fajita prep for skirt or flank steak. Slice the leftover into ne inch-ish pieces. Slather tortilla chips with retired beans and smother with good mexi-cheese, strew the steak pieces on top and throw under the broiler. At the appropriate time you remove from the oven, toss handfuls of shredded lettuce, diced tomato, prepped jalapeños, globs of guacamole, etc. Nachos muy grande.

Get it? Copy “pasta”?

Gonna need a pitchfork.

Btw, vs, that marinade, without the nam pla and ginger, is verra close to my fajita prep for skirt or flank steak. Slice the leftover into ne inch-ish pieces. Slather tortilla chips with retired beans and smother with good mexi-cheese, strew the steak pieces on top and throw under the broiler. At the appropriate time you remove from the oven, toss handfuls of shredded lettuce, diced tomato, prepped jalapeños, globs of guacamole, etc. Nachos muy grande.

OK, now I’m officially hot.

Greetings and beatings, Loony Libs, from me, the Cool Coach! The funky fact of the matter is that class warfare and mass welfare are crass and unfair! No one harshes my cool and gets off walking! Take it from me, the teacher, you creatures, that the libelous leeches of the left are very far from right! And the hip, happening hep cats of the totally tubular Tea Party are going to shake, quake and break your dreams of destroying this great land we call America! You turkeys are cooked! The Titanic ain’t got nothing on you, baby!

Well, that settles it, I have to become a troll.

Ooh, do it on the Palin vs Perry thread at Conservatives4Palin site- there’s a real undercurrent of aggression there.

OK, now I’m officially hot.

Must be the new hair color.

Spearhafoc, who is now the Cool Coach

Cool coach don’t wear no trilby!!! Also, needs more “ding dong dilly” and “badoodle boo-ya!” type inanity.

Ooh, do it on the Palin vs Perry thread at Conservatives4Palin site

I’m not touching that with a 10-meter cattle prod.

Texans vs. Alaskans.

heh

Welcome to Plunder Dome!!

I found that really hard to write, actually. The real Coach has some talent, I can tell you.

I thinly sliced some beefheart

How’d you get his remains? How much do have left?

“retired beans” FYautocorrect though it does sound … interesting.

How’d you get his remains? How much do have left?

We have a tissue sample in the lab, and we grow cultured steaks in a Petri dish full of agar.

Beefheart – don’t think I’ve ever had it. There’s a couple of restos here in LA and in London that are very trendy now for serving offal.

Me, I like liver. The most recent time I had it was at Musso & Frank, on Hollywood Boulevard, and it put my mind right back in the days 40 years ago when I waitressed at the OSU Faculty Club and served calves liver (“bacon or onion?”) to emeritus professors.

It’s very hard for someone who likes liver to live with someone who doesn’t. I have been able to convince my family to eat Italian chicken liver pasta dishes, but they do not like calves liver.

(“bacon or onion?”)

Kinda cruel to make them choose. One of the pubs near my home does a great calves’ liver smothered with bacon, onions, and mushrooms. Add a side of mixed veggies and mashed rutabega and potato, and you’re doing alright.

The flank steak sounded good enough that I went out and got some. Marinooting now. No ginger or pepper flakes, but sriracha works for the latter. Also, too: cumin. Some retired beans, soft corn tortillas, cheese and a tomato, onion and cilantro(oh noez!!!) salsa and it’s taco time, baby. I figured a dash of fish sauce wouldn’t kill me, though I don’t usually put it in this.

Sounds good HG.

I have always liked calf liver – my momma cooked it right. My cardiologist frowns on it but calves liver sauteed with a lemon tarragon sauce is teh shinizzle. Garlic mashed potates and peas with lettuce (yet another long lost classic deserving of renewal) makes a FINE meal.

tomato, onion and cilantro(oh noez!!!) salsa

pico dE gallo baybeee!

tomato, onion and cilantro(oh noez!!!) salsa

NEEDS MOAR BRUSSELS SPROUTS!!!

I only eat the livers from calves who drink.
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NEEDS MOAR BRUSSELS SPROUTS!!!

Uh-oh. Bustin’ out the big guns.

Also, too: Resident Evil 2, so, zombie movie.

Alas, as mentioned above, the all agave reposado in the cupboard stays there. Herbal tea. *pout*

Sproutses kills threads dead.

Tricksy sproutses

What a farkin’ idiot.

I had a friend who died when he fell of a bike he was riding around the corner to the store…the one time he didn’t wear a helmet.

Today I have et:

Two cups coffee; two slices (real) maple-flavored bacon; bowl of imitation Cap’n Crunch; a Delicious apple; some Gouda & some other kind of cheese (Jarlsberg, I think); a small home-grown tomato; Vietnamese chicken & rice soup (from here); an iced coffee; most of a can of Arizona® Watermelon Fruit Juice cocktail; PB&J sammich on white bread; glass of orange juice. In approx. that order.

Bored yet?

Sorry, that would be yesterday.

Hey, anyone heard from Fenwick?

East Baltimore man dies while being held at Central Booking
Death of man, held on drug charges, not considered suspicious

Bawlmer Sun

What the hell is “imitation Cap’n Crunch”?

Is nothing sacred??

What the hell is “imitation Cap’n Crunch”?

The Democrat’s version of deficit reduction?

To specify:

Ralphs Crisp Berry Crunch (Artificial Strawberry Flavored) Sweetened Corn and Oat Puffs. It’s the kind of kosher indicated w/ a U in a circle. (Can’t find any HTML for that.)

As good as the original (better than the Safeway version) & two lbs. (907 g) for US$3.29 or so. Comes in a bag, no wasteful cardboard box.

Can’t beat it w/ a stick, & it turns your POOP green.

“What the hell is “imitation Cap’n Crunch”?

Bout time we had some real defense cuts.

The Malt-O-Meal version is not bad either.

Don’t pay more than necessary to finance Quaker’s advertising campaigns! It’s like buying the rope for a mob that wants to lynch you.

It’s the kind of kosher indicated w/ a U in a circle.

Basically that means it’s “pareve” or neutral– contains no dairy or meat. Veggies, grains and fish are also pareve, which is why a tuna melt is fine but a patty melt isn’t unless you’re using TVP.

I know that some grains aren’t kosher for Passover, but as I don’t keep kosher myself I forget which (it would only be an issue if I wanted to make something for my kosher-keeping friend).

(Aside: are the bags the bagged cereal come in recyclable?)

Hey, anyone heard from Fenwick?

East Baltimore man dies while being held at Central Booking
Death of man, held on drug charges, not considered suspicious

MB: I saw this *bright light* (and Demi Moore) And, then I realized I was 62 instead of 50, and I’m suspicious as hell given my bizarrely-long beard.. So I decided to fire off another bowl.

Kind of pulling for the Brewers, what w/ their cool initials & never having won the Series.

On the Brewers. I liked them muchly when they were in the AL (which they left in 1998). One the all-time slickest infields I’ve ever seen: 3B Molitor … SS Yount … 2B Gantner … 1B the great Cecil Cooper.

But I hold a substantial resentment against the organization (and against the League offices and that weasel ‘commissioner’ Bud Selig for allowing the move.

A 14-team AL and a 16-team NL? How fucked is that? A 4-team Division and a 6-team Division? How fucked is that? (Let’s not I even get into the distortion these stupid imbalances cause in interleague play.)

Can you think of any other sport as fucked up as that? The Milwaukee jump to the NL ranks right up there with the DH as one of the most idiotic things MLB has done.

Still it’s always nice to see some shake-up in the postseason cast-of-characters. So I can get behind to Brew Crew on that count…

*end of irascible rant*

Also, to all: This is one the all-time finest threads I’ve ever read at S,N. Wish I could have particpated in it more.

Glad to see you’re feeling better Fenwick.
Click here early risers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqmid9MlFSw

Interesting discussion on Libya can be found here
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/08/20/libya/#comment-2735509
I’m not just saying it because yours truly figures prominently but because I wasted half the night there. Scroll down to the 60’s man, for the best comments. No, I am not drunk. Not really.

If I went there, gocart, I’d just get in another fight about this a-hole.
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Does imitation Cap’n Crunch cut up the inside of your mouth like REAL Cap’n Crunch?

My mouth is cut up from some pretzels I bought (I almost never buy any kind of junk food, but fell off the wagon for these).
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What’s wrong with lieder recitals? Classical music’s great. Nordlinger’s assholery is when he looks down on everyone who doesn’t like classical, acting like they’re absent taste. Mock his haughty attitude all you like, but when you mock his taste you’re doing the same as he does.

Can’t beat it w/ a stick, & it turns your POOP green.

And that, my friends, is the mark of good, nutritious food!
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Why is 6 afraid of 7?

Because 7 8 9.

i also told this one to much delight…

How’d you get his remains? How much do have left?

this made me laff…and that hurt…

but on the upside, my days long stint of being that girl is now over…consumption of fair food is still a go for another few hours…or until after the hangover parade…then i am taking one huge motherfucking nap…

Hey don’t knock lieder. Some of us straight guys just love lieder. I sing them to my wife. But then again, I also wear tinted sunscreen and admit it is make-up. And I am a nerd.

Maybe if Nerdlinger would just unleash his inner metrosexual, he’d be a lot happier, smarter and more liberal?

If I went there, gocart, I’d just get in another fight about this a-hole.

That link wanted me to install software, which I ain’t doin’!
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e’d be a lot happier, smarter and more liberal?

DOUBTFUL…

David e is Dennis in disguise perhaps? Tintin did not mock his taste in music. A person who goes on at persnickety length about lieder recitals then complains about the lack of manlymanliness butch badassness of the preznit because he aint wearing a helmet is so comical a picture it had to be limned by Tintin.

David, I think the implication is that lieder recitals are all well and good but not the sort of thing that bolsters one’s pretensions to the “arbiter of macho coolness” mantle.

Well, be fair. Does Nordlinger look like he’s been on a bike in the last thirty years?

Helmets, BTW, are the law in most sates.

also, too…when your comment is flanked by POOP comments, you might not want to try to make a *serious* point…

e’d be a lot happier, smarter and more liberal?

and cockney…

Bingo Corruption! Click on the photos.

Bingo Corruption! Click on the photos.

from the comments…

Wake up ALABAMA, Wake up.

Black coffee so far. I’m working my way up to some clear apple juice. Then at 1:00 pm I have to start with the purging solutions.

I checked the FAQ in my instructions to see if it was OK to put a slug of bourbon in the Gatorade/laxative mixture, but they definitely say “no alcohol.”

No recycling logo on the bags, but I put them in the recycling bin anyway.

I prefer pseudo-Crunch a bit soggy. It’s tough to wait those extra minutes, but worth it.

In other news, my next door neighbors are about to become the victims of a horrible, bloody crime, after which they will never make noise again.

Sympathies to g. Hope it does not involve any Fleet products.

Sadly, it does.

I can only hope that I might lose a pound or two by the time this is over.

Hope it does not involve any Fleet products.

Fleet is horrible, but effective. There isn’t any pleasant way to get that job* done.

Boo! on the no booze in the Gatorade rule. It’s a cryin’ shame!

*make of it what you wish.

Mmmmmmmmm. Horchata. Yummy yummy yummy yum. Even without booze. Which gets me thinking…rum, maybe. Yes, definitely, rum. I shall report back much later after I’ve thrashed Suzi’s new donuts.

Thrashing the donut

Thrashing Suzi’s donuts.

Damn you, WC.

Typical.

hogeye, the comment over there: “it’s unfair that michele bachmann can marry a gay man and i can’t” just totally wins the internet forever.

yo bouffant, you been to forage yet? it’s…interesting. not great, but not terrible either. it’s very much what it is IYKWIM

Looks like it’s over now. The rebels have captured Tripoli and there are celebrations in the streets.

Obama’s Muslim Brotherhood shock troops will be rolling in to free the US from our oppressors and force sharia law on our wimmins any day now.

Nope, most of my foraging is at Ralphs. (Had to gurgle Forage, even.) Used to live in that zone, & was often seen at Millie’s. That would be through ’92. 19 yrs. already? Sheesh.

i was at millie’s from 94-99, most weekends, eating some really good breakfast from sad ex-punk rock stars.

They do make a mess there, don’t they?

At one time a friend of mine owned the dump, & used to move reefer therefrom as well as chow. ++good.

*tap-tap*

Test, one, two, three…

Anyone?

Bouffant broke it, not me.

I’m just trying to fix it.

Did tsam change his nym?

Glugg glugg glugg drinking so far 24 ounces of gatorade mixed with polyethylene glycol. 44 ounces to go.

no booze.

not trying to share my misery, just pleading for sympathy.

I am happy to report that rum is the canonical booze for horchata. I may have to make another batch.

Those of us who have been through it understand completely. By tomorrow noon It will be all over, hang in there.

Killed this deader than dead.

Glugg glugg glugg

UGH! I am sympathizing.

Had to drink some crap that tasted awful for a full-body scan of some sort once, had the scan & was called back a day to two later because the scanner wasn’t working right when I was in it. More drinking of ick & another go-round.

19 yrs. already? Sheesh.

Really. Time doesn’t fly, it disappears. Iris pointed to a four inch scar on my leg, “Que paso aqui?”
Well, let’s see (I don’t have a ready answer, I don’t remember how I got a four inch long scar on my leg)…..ah, si, de los tiempos antiguos, me cai de la bici, cuando tenia unos catorce anos.” From the old days, I fell from my bicycle when I was maybe fourteen. But the truth is I don’t remember and I’m too embarrassed to say I don’t remember. I mean I am old, right? Isn’t that what forgetting how you got a bad scar is supposed to mean? But I give Iris a quick answer to fend off any suspicion that I’m losing it. She passes her smooth hand over the scar again, “…profundo, mi amor.” Deep scar. Yes it is.

19 yrs. already? Sheesh.

indeed, the time is rapidly passing…unless you are poor g…in which case, there is much passing but not in a good way…hang in there dood…

it’s unfair that michele bachmann can marry a gay man and i can’t” just totally wins the internet forever.

i will have to AHEM you sir…

I must correct our estimable Mr. Green. (I wish I knew what the hell the rest of it was you said but it ain’t got no Spanglish). Time does not disappear; it evaporates. Trust me, I’m a trained professional.

Did I kill it even deader by being nice or sumpin?

Rodert: That was wonderful to read. Skillfully crafted. Powerful and enigmatic close.

And yet, the driving force is more than time’s swift passage (which seems ever-accelerated to me): Memory itself (in all it’s varieties) fades or becomes altered. Sometimes this can be merciful. Sometimes it can be tragic.

Time is constant. Memory is not.

Or so it seems to me.

Forget not your scars.

rodert rudis said,

August 22, 2011 at 3:24

Now, see? THAT’S how you do off-topic stream-of-non-sequitur. It’s not for everybody to fuck around with.

And I think you know who I’m looking at.

which means he was/is a bottom.

And a size queen.

Attention Nordlinger you filthy bike seat sniffer:

I wear a bike helmet any time I ride a bike. If you were to make a comment like this one to my face, I promise you would need some emergency dental work.

I’ll let you in on a little secret, Jay. Those of us who have brains worth protecting feel compelled to wear a helmet. I realize this is something you wouldn’t understand, and you really don’t need to worry about getting a helmet or anything, but that’s why we wear those faggy plastic things when we ride bikes.

And with that, I’ll ask you to kindly go lick a running chainsaw, Nord.

And with that, I’ll ask you to kindly go lick a running chainsaw, Nord.

Insufficient. He’d still be able to write.

I personally would like to urge him to drive the short bus over the cliffotine. No helmet required.

Also, if nobody’s added it to Sadly Ipsum, “cliffotine.”

Just like to throw my bike helmet into the ring here, and say that when I used to ride a bike, I used to wear a helmet. Full stop.

Because if me and the bike came to a full stop, I would be hoping that said bike helmet would give its life that my brain might live – as someone said above, the idea is that the helmet crumples in a specially designed way, absorbing the forces of impact and saving the squishy brain parts.

Which makes a tosser I once knew even more of a tosser: he was an artist who thought that made him special (and bitched and moaned constantly about “Why won’t the government support me for life as I do my art”, but that’s another story).

Anyway, said tosser, too much of a wimp to risk being pulled over by the cops for not wearing a helmet, chose to make a fashion statement by wearing an ex-German helmet. Fine if the main threat was sharp pieces of metal coming at your noggin, but not a whole lot of use when trying to prevent impact injuries.

Why is the world so full of tossbags? And why does WordPress hate me so?

I’m sorry, but a grown man wearing a bicycle helmet, when he’s not training or racing like LeMond, is just — is just .

Is just – is just so not Gary Busey!

What I learned in this thread…

Gov. Rick Perry, who took a tumble while mountain biking last evening, said he’s doing well. The gov broke his collar bone and scraped up an elbow pretty good.

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President Bush charged up punishing climbs and down steep dirt paths on his high-performance bike Monday, at one point sailing over the handlebars and landing flat on his back.

…Republicans aren’t very good bike riders.

Republicans aren’t very good bike riders.

They drive their bikes much like they drive their country.

*tap tap** This thing on?

*tap tap** This thing on?

Not so much. Go to bed!
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Wish I could, I’m stuck working a graveyard.

…Obama’s into fisting…

I watched. Wow. I can’t imagine what she wanted to say. “Fishing?” “Frisking?” Dunno. Maybe she meant “fisting”?

She meant that little “fist bump” thing- she has no business being a “love doctor” with that sort of naivete.

I’m stuck working a graveyard.

At least it’s not raining.

Sorry you want the humourous grave diggers, that’s the next graveyard down. No problem, fuck you very much.

Alas, poor Yorick, I knew him AK.

Jest a minute, is that him, I thought he had more hair?

I sometimes get Yorick and Fenwick mixed up.

One’s a made up place in a Peter Sellers movie and the other’s a made person in a Peter Sellers play written by Blake Edwards, apparently.

Or even a made up person^

Frau Blucher?

Or even a made up person

Yorick isreal!!!

I’m stuck working a graveyard.

— You really should stop dropping tabs when you’re at work. You know that stuff fucks you up. We’re worried about you, man.
— So what’s the problem? It’s not like I ever need to make a major decision. It’s not like anything serious ever happens on the job.
— Yeah, but that’s because you’re on night shift at the morgue.

You really should stop dropping tabs when you’re at work

The only things I’m dropping are gifs from the House of Substance.

Cool!

http://snopes.com/photos/arts/ricefield.asp

Have I missed it, or has no one discussed the fact that Obama is riding a woman’s bike?

Cool!

Damn, I saw ricefield, and I thought that Condie and Rumsfeld were involved in a teleporter mishap.

Have I missed it, or has no one discussed the fact that Obama is riding a woman’s bike?

One of the comments (can’t be arsed…) indicated that it’s a typical rental bike, not a bike for gurlz.

One of the comments (can’t be arsed…) indicated that it’s a typical rental bike, not a bike for gurlz.

I didn’t realize the rental places had gone unisex. Maybe we can spin this as his PENIS is too big for a top bar. (We know it’s not his balls that are in the way…)

Maybe we can spin this as his PENIS is too big for a top bar. (We know it’s not his balls that are in the way…)

To be fair, with his gracile frame, he doesn’t need the top bar. The top bar (technically known as the nutbuster) strengthens the frame for big bicycling bastards.

What’s that you say!? Manly Men wearing helmets?!! Don’t make us guffaw!

Manly Man

Charlie Sheen, is that you?

“The Bayou Trilogy,” “Rodin’s Debutante,” “Cutting for Stone,” “To the End of the Land,” and “The Warmth of Other Suns”

that’s obama’s summer reading list…make of it what you will…

saaaaaweeeeeet!

i just checked the winning button numbers from the aforementioned celebrated town festival of which took up most of my time over the weekend…i won $200!!!

which is approximately the amount spent by hubbkf and i in our quest to convince ourselves and others that we have not aged or grown up yet…

401!

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arf arf arf

Congrats, bbkf!

Dont be like me and blow it on handbags and couture candles.

Dont be like me and blow it on handbags and couture candles.

i most assuredly will…my sister and our daughters are going to the world renowned mall of america this weekend* for a bit of a lark…

*teh daughter won a bunch of free passes to the various entertainment options at moa otherwise i normally do not get to within 200 miles of the joint

world renowned mall of america

Is that where the Cock brothers buy their congressmen?

I’m with Jay on this one. I absolutely hate parents who model appropriate behavior for their children.
Oh, and this:
http://thebikeshow.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/bush-with-bike.jpg
Maybe Jay is still touchy about the helmet he had to wear his entire childhood.

gm,

Five months of freedom bombs. I’m glad that no foreign boots on teh ground were required, but five months of the combined air power of the First World in conjunction with a highly motivated populace in an active and armed uprising. Even before the sorties started, Qadaffi was already alienated globally, and more importantly – regionally. Decades spent building a pan-African regime of bribes and depots were pretty much in teh shitter by mid-spring. I’m gonna have to say that this has been another display of teh limitations of air.

I was very strongly anti-NFZ. Then Juan Cole changed his mind about teh need for Freedom Bombs. I trust his opinion on Middle East things because his knowledge of teh region is so ridiculously more vast and comprehensive than mine (which is practically zero). That made me reconsider my reflexive response to be against military action. I did give it some serious thought, but I didn’t change my mind then, and I still haven’t.

All the pro-Freedom Bomb people with their warnings of tank columns rolling into Benghazi were and are deluded. The regime had lots of momentum immediately before the bombing, but there’s no way they could have stretched that far. Evidence? One of the decisive factors in the rapid fall of Tripoli was Az Zawiyah. I city that had been crushed and steamrollered back in early March. Deep in Western Libya, just 50 km west of Tripoli, keeping control of the place should have been easy. And yet in teh days approaching the push to the capital, Zawiyah rose up again and pushed the loyalists out of the city centre. Even in his own backyard Qadaffi, with full deployment of heavy armor and artillery, Qadaffi never fully controlled the place. He just did not have the capability.

The NFZ did prevent Qadaffi strafing runs and regime sorties against Benghazi, but I’m leaning toward the neutralization of Libya’s air capabilities as a factor prolonging the stand-off. The Libyan jets were pretty much ineffectual on targets* and must have chewed up a huge amount of the regimes resources to keep in the air. Considering that this was a battle of attrition see-sawing back and forth around Brega and Misurata for half a year – I honestly believe that Qadaffi’s use of air hurt him more than the rebels.

Anyways, that’s my take on Libya. As a pacifist, my understanding of war and teh stratageries of blowing people up is pretty poor – so what do I know. I’m hopeful for something functional to emerge from the chaos. Teh TNC assures there won’t be a power vacuum in the near-term. Vital considering the mopping up and clean-up that’s going to have to occur over the next few weeks if not months.

*I will concede that they had a strong affect on morale.

Is that where the Cock brothers buy their congressmen?

they do, or at least did, have a store called, ‘everything’s a buck’

couture candles.

Bespoke or ready-to-wear?

To reiterate what B^4 said re:woman’s bike. Look at the supports for the back wheel – they’re in-line with the angled top tube. It’s a mountain bike type frame. Malia’s on the girl’s bike with teh low entry step-through.

Couture candles? WTF Couture fucking candles?!?!?!? That’s really a thing, eh? OH JESUS CHRIST $64 FOR A FUCKING CANDLE! What are you fucking nuts or what?!.!

… that little “fist bump” thing…

Oh, right. Thanks. I feel better now.

Haven’t gotten through all the comments and I’m sure somebody’s mentioned it before, but it just occurred to me to do a google image search for “George Bush cycling.” Sho nuff, that paragon of machismo wore safety helmets too.

I think the last time I ever witnessed somebody criticizing another for wearing a helmet while biking, I was in middle school. What sort of adult would think that this is a particularly stinging insult? (*skims a couple other Nordlinger posts; shudders*). That answers that question.

Yes, so Bush wore a bike helmet, but I always wanted him not to. Also, seatbelts and other sorts of basic safety precautions.