If This Goddess Didn’t Exist, We Wouldn’t Invent Her
People that try to look like Bette Midler and that call themselves goddesses are generally suffering from more than a delusion of divinity and a desire to be called “fabulous” by their hairdressers. And Amy Alkon, the so-called Advice Goddess and yet another feeble-minded member of Pajamas Media Nutwork, is no exception. Currently she is wasting cyberspace explaining why a black woman who was accidentally shot by the police during a drug raid deserved it.
Who Places A Lower Value On Black Lives? Would that be a police officer who accidentally shoots and kills a black woman, or that woman herself, a mother of six children by five different drug-dealing fathers, who takes up with yet another drug dealer?
Clearly the woman and not the cop who pulled the trigger. She wanted to die and he was just doing her a favor. This is a joke, right? Sadly, no. It’s just more eliminationist rhetoric from a right-wing nut job:
Not surprisingly, black leaders are outraged. Also not surprisingly, their outrage is not directed at women in the black community who squeeze out litters of fatherless children, or the men who fuck and run, or fuck, deal drugs, and go to directly jail.
You mean the cops raided the home because the women had too many fatherless children? No, Amy just threw that in so that she could refer to “litters” of black children “squeezed” out by their sub-human black mothers. And to suggest people should be more outraged about the size of her oversized “litter” of black babies than by the fact that she got shot. My guess is that the closest this not-so-divine “goddess” ever came to socializing with a black person was a Saturday evening when she and her little Yorkie lap-dog watched an entire episode of “Cops.”
Seriously, do the Pajamas Media folks draw any lines on racist rhetoric? How far can a Pajamas Media blogger go? If they can talk about “litters” of black children, can they just come out and refer to black people as “porch monkeys” or “thick-lipped spades” or “shiftless coons?” I think we all know the answer.
UPDATE: OMFG, I just refreshed Amy’s post and see that I missed a bunch of the comments, including comments from Amy defending her post from charges of racism. And guess what, she’s not racist, the people who are calling her a racist are the real racists:
I find it racist to say I can’t criticize black people.
And that, I think, speaks for itself.
their outrage is not directed at women in the black community who squeeze out litters of fatherless children
I know you already addressed this, but Jesus. “Litters”? Why not just call themn “porch monkeys” or something else as classy as “litters”?
See, fag hags are tolerable when they aren’t reactionary dipshits. When they are – well, honey, I’m afraid they’re laughing at you, you trashy fucking honky.
Honestly, don’t we all know how this song goes by now? When you point out that someone sounds like a racist because they use terms like “litters” and generally frame non-whites as being less than human, it’s really YOU that’s the racist. That’s how things work in the funhouse-mirror world of projection and lies that right-wingnuts live in.
“If they can talk about “litters” of black children, can they just come out and refer to black people as “porch monkeys” or “thick-lipped spades” or “shiftless coons?””
It’s only August. They’ll get to your suggestions.
Amy Alkon asks: Who Places A Lower Value On Black Lives?
Well… racists like you do.
from the linked MSNBC article:
Really, I don’t know how you defend that.
Another screech for attention from the fRight.
I would personally like to thank Dr. Denton Media for giving this woman a chance to completely pole-axe any chance she’ll ever have of holding office.
Look, I was in fear for my life. She may have thrown a baby at me. That thing might’ve had rabies or some sort of infectious make-you-black-virus. And pfft, year-old? That baby was fourteen months. Thing must’ve weighed thirty pounds, a guy can get seriously injured if he’s hit by a flying baby.
Reckless? I only fired three shots! Geez, it’s not like I emptied the clip and then reloaded.
And in case I didn’t make myself clear, she was armed – with a fucking baby! I coulda got killed in there.
The fact is, presumptive Democrat nominee Barack Obama’s trip to Afghanistan, Iraq and Europe is all part and parcel of a full blown media event that most intuitive Americans will view as contrived and overdone; an event to compensate for Sen. Obama’s lack of experience and extraordinarily thin political portfolio. The media has helped orchestrate this publicity stunt to attract attention to their chosen candidate. There is no more doubt that they are in the tank for the presumptive Democrat presidential nominee. Many people have been awestruck by Barack’s suave manners and good looks. However, he does not have the stature of a wise and knowing candidate. With a mere three years in the Senate, it is almost laughable that Obama is actually being seriously considered for the most important job in the world. “There is no there there.” It truly has been silly season this election year and it is amazing (sadly, not in a good way) what the DNC political machine has accomplished.
“Really, I don’t know how you defend that.”
Never fear. The classy commenters over there have figured it all out:
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Posted by: Thomas Blair at August 11, 2008 6:19 AM
Cry me a river, people. I bet the “reverand” wouldn’t have a damn issue in the world if it’s been some white skank living with the drug dealer that got shot, instead of a black skank. Wouldn’t be racism then, oh no! She wasn’t innocent, she was at the very least an accomplice to drug dealing. *And actually I am for legalizing drugs*. But the fact is they are illegal, and the cops have not only the right but the duty to try and stop dealers. Yes, wrong doors get kicked in. Wrong people get arrested. It happens. But not in this case. Any law abiding citizen knows if a cop tells you to get down, you do! You argue the merits later in court, NOT when someone with a gun is yelling at you. Police put their lives on the line all day every day. They are scared THEY are going to get shot (which happens every day, mostly in black communities, but the Rev has no issue with that either. Apparently not even when the cop is black). So yeah, when someone is in a dark room and not responding to orders and the cop thinks others in the house are shooting at them, chances are that cop is going to shoot.
She was scum who’s life was a waste. The only real problem with her death is the 6 kids who will be on welfare their whole life. Or, more likely, delaing drugs like their daddies till they get shot or go to jail, where they will live off our hard-earned money the rest of their far-too-comfy lives.
Racism will go away when black people start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions and making better life choices. (that was a generalization there. Lots of black people do. But most do not.)
Wingnut World is a magical place where the shooting of an innocent woman by a trigger-happy cop is grounds for excoriating the otherwise unrelated social habits of an entire demographic.
Then again, Amy Alkon never met an opportunity for slut-shaming that she wasn’t all over like white on the KKK.
“He had faced up to eight months in jail if convicted of both counts.”
EIGHT MONTHS! what the fuck is wrong with the american justice system? Eight months for murder..
I always liked “brood sow”, a term used by David Brudnoy (who was considered by many [not to be confused with “some people say …”] as a paragon of civility etc. etc.)
Nice to know what passes for civility in right-wing circles. (Although he tended to use words of more than 2 syllables, so they generally might not have understood what he was saying).
Fucking white people.
The fact is, Papers Please.
I always liked “brood sow”, a term used by David Brudnoy (who was considered by many [not to be confused with “some people say …”] as a paragon of civility etc. etc.)
As an amusing side-effect, ‘sow’ is phonetically identical and extremely similar in image to one of the best-travelled racist canards in history – the Judensau.
History doesn’t quite repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
Why is Carrot Top writing this weird stuff? Where’s his props?
Gary Ruppert –
Interesting point. In keeping with your perspicacity, the obvious response is “OK, but how about those Cubbies? And do you think John Bonham was a better drummer than Keith Moon? On the other hand, you need to consider whether the problem of Liechtenstein’s ballooning deficit will destabilize the entire European economy. And what does ‘non sequitur’ mean?”
People then wonder why African Americans vote less for Republicans, and some are authentically mystified.
See, when the right claims to support the police or be tough on crime or whatever and they turn around and do this, they make their authoritarian whoredom obvious. The guy shot an unarmed woman holding a fucking baby; he’s either too evil or too stupid to serve on any self-respecting force.
Of course, you respond to both rises and falls in the crime rate with ‘more cops!’, this is what is going to happen – you’re going to give people who rent-a-cop agencies would normally turn down badges and guns. If all you give a shit about is oppression, that’s OK – but it’s going to mean the police acting out twisted individual authority trips instead of the fucking law.
I really hope this bitch winds up in the wrong part of the country and gets tased because some Barney Fife motherfucker thinks her accent makes her a tweaker. (It doesn’t, but she probably is.) Goddess your way out of that, you inhuman cunt.
Not that anyone cares, but my preceding comment was directed at GR’s comment at 21:12, not 21:29.
This has been a public disservice message.
Hey, nothing wrong with demanding more cops. It’s a pretty good idea. The trouble comes when you want more cops, but want to cut government spending on everything.
Want more units for lower cost? You get lower quality. Anybody knows that.
And do you think John Bonham was a better drummer than Keith Moon?
For the record, Gary probably prefers Neil Peart.
We’re Rush / and we’re here to say / Darkies are terrible / in every way / Bow now now / bow now now
How did you get a picture of the elusive ‘Bizarro-Molly Rintgwald in Sixteen Candles’ action figure?
I thought they had all disappeared in the Great Grunge Singularity of ’91!
WordPress is the Amy Alkon of confused blog platforms.
Cry me a river, people. I bet the “reverand” wouldn’t have a damn issue in the world if it’s been some white skank living with the drug dealer that got shot, instead of a black skank. Wouldn’t be racism then, oh no!
Right, the real victim isn’t the mother who was murdered or her baby who was shot, but the hypothetical white lady who nobody would have cared about if she existed.
Fucking white people
Seriously.
Never fear. The classy commenters over there have figured it all out:
Classy indeed. Man, that comment thread is a mess.
Here’s what I learned:
Personal responsibility means that if you live with a drug dealer you give the police permission to shoot you.
It does not mean that you can be criticized for writing offensive claptrap about a black woman (and her baby) who were shot during a no-knock raid.
Any law abiding citizen knows if a cop tells you to get down, you do!
Yeah–just drop the baby and hit the deck!
Cause then we can arrest you for child abuse…
That fact is, why is the timestamp on this cite always 7 hours off from the real time? The fact is, our timestamps here in the Heartland say Central Time.
From what I read, the woman was kneeling when she was shot. Holding a child. Kneeling and holding a child. When she was shot. Dead. By a man empowered by the state to shoot her.
I wasn’t aware that having children by men who committed crimes was a capital offense.
C’mon, Clif, just look at that outfit Amy has on and tell me if you think she honestly believes she isn’t a racist?
I mean, it shouts “Ebony and Ivory”! Why, I bet she even plays a piano that has both black and white keys! She’s fabulously integrated!
In a sort of upperclass twit sort of way…
I wasn’t aware that having children by men who committed crimes was a capital offense.
Apparently they are, if you are black.
Well, why didn’t the woman and her six children simply karate chop and overpower the cop??? That’s what any keyboard warrior would have done.
Poor Gary has never heard of time zones. No one tell him the secret code name of the country where S,N! headquarters are located.
fixt
or FYWP if the strikes don’t work
Oooooh, snap. At the end of her article, Amy points out that the cops aren’t racist because they aren’t targetting “black dentists, black cable TV techs, or black newspaper columnists.” Guess who she picked to represent black newspaper columnists? I suspect a certain Fan of his might show up trolling here soon.
Incidentally, from another news story on the raid.
And also:
Fucking classy Chief Garlock. Clearly there’s “no evidence of police misconduct”.
Also, this shows why everyone should have a firearm in their home!!! If it wasn’t for gun control liebruls, the victim could have shot the cop in self defense and she would have survived.
Seriously, though, if that Blade story is at all accurate, then this was murder. Misdemeanor, my ass.
Well, of course, a white woman was shot and a baby was injured during the whatever tax and militia stand off, ruby ridge. The tighty whitie righties were all over the map accusing the sniper/cops of brutality and overreacting and shit. There wasn’t any “she made bad choices” to “pup out a litter” of white militia tax evaders.
aimai
Amy thinks black folk are putting out too many kids? What are the chances that she’s pro-life, anti-contraceptive?
The fact is, this “goddess” looks suspiciously like an M-to-F. Methinks the fact that cisgendered women can give birth is leading to “Miz” Amy’s impotent raging vis-a-vis “litters” of children.
Nice. In her defense, apparently she supports attempted 7th trimester abortions.
Please tell me that is a photoshop. For the love of all that is holy.
Goddam itchy trigger finger cops are what you get in an increasingly authoritarian environment where you increasingly convert your municipal police department into a paramilitary organization. C’mon, have you seen the way these swat assholes dress? Black jumpsuits with velcro tabs, tac holsters and LBE? What do they think, they’re patrolling Faluja fer fucks sake?
But there’s this narrative in place now, that the cop has a “very dangerous job” and he has mere “split seconds to react” if someone does something that “frightens him”. Nobody bothers to mention he’s heavily armed, wearing body armor, quite well paid in a position he VOLUNTEERED FOR mostly due to the adrenaline rush he gets from the confrontations.
And judges just keep letting them stroll out the door free and clear after committing the most horrendous cold blooded murders. Frankly, the cost of the civil suits is the only thing that will make these paramilitary organizations reign in their cowboy shooters. Unless the narrative crosses over to the civil courts and they stop awarding wrongful death benefits…
mikey
wow, that comment thread on her blog is a festering den of fucktardery
Amy Alkon’s advice column has been in the back pages of the alt-weekly in just about every city I’ve ever lived in. I wonder if wingnutty writings like that might lose her a few.
Remember that it is the Liberals who are the true racists. Pointing out that some white people are racist is the worst racism of all!
Has anyone ever heard of a white meth head being shot by a black cop? Maybe those just don’t make the news or something.
Looks like the wiki demons have already gotten ahold of Ms. (?) Alkon’s page.
Ugh. I knew I didn’t much like her when I was reading the San Jose Metro back when I lived in Silicon Valley. Now I know why.
“Guess who she picked to represent black newspaper columnists?”
Wonder how Thomas feels about being every racist fuckers hypothetical Black friend? Think he’s proud?
Sowell has no shame, so I’m guessing he is proud.
Speaking of litters… Anyone remember the Dugger family?
Maybe she and mAnn Coulter were brothers.
Has anyone ever heard of a white meth head being shot by a black cop? Maybe those just don’t make the news or something.
Yeah that time that there was that missing black woman. It was all over the news for months on end I don’t know how you could have missed it.
Alkon isn’t a racist. She just thinks, talks, and acts that way.
Perhaps the cop thought she was preparing to squeeze a baby at him….
From iamcoyote’s link: “Michelle Duggar gives her kids a Mother’s Day surprise: ‘We’re expecting!’”
I’m sorry, but at number 20, a surprise it isn’t.
She looks like Matthew Modine.
Yeah, I’m here. In case you loony lefties were curious, she’s right; Thomas Sowell is an example of a man who has risen above and beyond the initial trappings of Democrat discrimination to reach a lofty and distinguished point in American intellectual life. You’d think even you people would understand how difficult and honorable this was, but as you people say around here, Sadly, No!
Dr. Sowell’s writings are vital. The rambling silliness and childishness at this web site are not.
Unless the narrative crosses over to the civil courts and they stop awarding wrongful death benefits…
mikey
Of course, mikey, that is yet another right wing fantasy called “tort reform”.
P.S. I’m calling shenanigans from Columbus, Ohio! And I have to go back to work tomorrow!
Wah hah hah hah 🙁
Hilarious. The Goddess’s site is blocked by my proxy at work as offensive content.
Thomas Sowell is an example of a man who has risen above and beyond the initial trappings of Democrat discrimination to reach a lofty and distinguished point in American intellectual life.
That would be “house nigger”, correct?
Oh c’mon, guys, this was obviously just another successful battle in our highly rated and ever-winning War on Drugs! Living with, or having children by, a suspected drug dealer is an automatic death penalty! And a permanent disfiguring of one of your surviving children! That woman could just as easily have chosen to be a dentist, or a cable-repair person, or a newspaper columnist. But she chose the, um, “dark” path, shall we say, and justice had to be served.
tigrismus said,
August 11, 2008 at 22:50
From iamcoyote’s link: “Michelle Duggar gives her kids a Mother’s Day surprise: ‘We’re expecting!’”
Just in case any of the 8-10 year old female Duggars thought they might get to have a childhood: Sadly, No!
The fact is, here in the Heartland we don’t go vacationing outside of the Heartland, other than to Disney World, which is in the Heartland of Florida, so it’s OK. And we definitely don’t take our 27 children to Hawaii, which is only in the Heartland of the Pacific Ocean, which is bordered by Colombia, which is bordered by Venezuela, which is where commies are.
Did I really repeat “porch monkeys” from the end of your post?
Holy shit, if so, I’m sorry for not thinking before posting.
Wait, I thought personal responsibility meant being armed at all times (even in church) in case someone started shooting at you.
She was scum who’s life was a waste. The only real problem with her death is the 6 kids who will be on welfare their whole life. Or, more likely, delaing drugs like their daddies till they get shot or go to jail, where they will live off our hard-earned money the rest of their far-too-comfy lives.
See, whatever ‘they” do, I have to pay for it! Not racism, they should have shot the rest of the kids so I can save money.
[/racist]
I’m sorry, but at number 20, a surprise it isn’t.
Groucho H. Marx, that’s a lot of kids. Momma’s older sister married a man that had 17 brothers and sisters, but there was farming involved and that’s just how things were done. Wouldn’t you hate to have to keep 20 young’uns entertained all the fucking time?
And what is it with right-wingers, social conservatives and other assorted knuckleheads and the grandiose titles? “Advice Goddess”? Excuse me? You don’t to call yourself a divine being just for telling people to do things you yourself probably don’t have the intestinal fortitude to pull off if the hammer ever came down on you. Up yours, lady.
Once upon a time there was this dude who hung out with criminals and stuff and his mom was an unwed mother. And then the “cops” “put a cap” in his “a**”. This is kind of like that, except not.
From iamcoyote’s link: “Michelle Duggar gives her kids a Mother’s Day surprise: ‘We’re expecting!’”
I’m sorry, but at number 20, a surprise it isn’t.
From the article:
Apparently, it is a clown car.
All white jury/prosecutor/judge and a not guilty verdict-where have we heard this before? Maybe from stories about Mississippi circa 1930.
Uh oh, someone is going in for the snip!
Her rhetoric is more like Dalek rhetoric.
I’ll bet she thought the McCaughey Litter was the greatest thing since Twinkies, nevermind that they couldn’t afford the seven freaking kids, and took charity from everyone and his dog up to and including a free, brand new custom built home and free babysitting. Then they leveraged the circus act into a paying proposition.
But that’s just fine as paint with Amy, cause they are white and wingnut and go about speaking at anti-choice events. A question for ol’ Amy and the McCaugheys: If it’s god’s will that you have the baby if you get pregnant, why isn’t it god’s will when you can’t conceive? Aren’t you thwarting god’s will by taking fertility treatments?
1930? Shit, that’s giving them too much credit.
Fuckers still weren’t acting right by 1964.
Fuckers still weren’t acting right by
1964.[insert date here]Fuckers still weren’t acting right by 1964.
See, this is why I’ve decided eventually I’m going to work out historically race-neutral flags to replace the Confederate regalia – for all its failings the South has a few bright lights to be proud of. It’s difficult to imagine a Northerner digging his heels into the dirt as hard as LBJ did to put an end to institutional racism – to say nothing of poverty. Even his war was purer than anything the Republicans have ever done.
And it’s been forty years of hell ever since.
Michelle Duggar opens the economic stimulus check and exclaims, “I,m rich … bitch!!1!!”
Bonus fun fact: say no to niggerism.
Fuckers still weren’t acting right by 1964. [insert date here]
How about today?
I suppose it’s all right that the polygamous Mormon cults have so many children, on welfare, because they’re…. you know, so white bread. And well spoken. And modestly dressed.
http://www.rickross.com/reference/polygamy/polygamy4.html
All white jury/prosecutor/judge and a not guilty verdict-where have we heard this before? Maybe from stories about Mississippi circa 1930.
Simi Valley, CA circa 1997
Or Justice Cooperman’s courtroom, New York State Supreme Court in Queens, April 25th, 2008.
Oh, White Judge, NO Jury…
mikey
But that’s just fine as paint with Amy,
Funny, she actually uses this as a defense. She claims that she can’t be a racist since she has previously called the offspring of white Catholics a “litter”. So you see she’s not racist because she sees Catholics as subhuman too!
Next up, Amy Alkon explains that she’s not anti-semitic because she’s also called Koreans cheap bastards.
Incidentally, to continue on mikey’s narrative from 22:24, Lima’s response to this whole thing is to get tougher on crime.
mikey’s narrative from 22:24
Always the bridesmaid. 🙁
I find it racist to say I can’t criticize black people.
Did anyone actually tell her that she can’t criticize black people, or did they just say that she’s an asshole for writing what she wrote?
Amazing. Until further details are revealed to prove otherwise, an innocent woman was killed, and a child was shot.
And the knuckleheads are using the occasion to rant about blacks being smarter. (You see, blacks are stupid: they make decisions that aren’t in their interest all the time, like . . . being black.)
“She was scum who’s life was a waste.”
Without knowing a thing about Tarika Wilson, Amy’s fellow travelers have decided that Tarika just wasn’t leading a life worth living. (Being a mother to 6 kids isn’t meaningful, according to true believers in family values.)
The same poster writes, “Racism will go away when black people start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions and making better life choices. (that was a generalization there.”
No shit, sherlock. It’s a generalization that is better known as prejudice.
Regardless of her decisions, none of them warranted getting shot and killed, without even judge and jury. Killed in front of her children no less.
Pat yourself on the back, Amy. Your friends, too. There’s nothing quite like criticizing the victim.
“Racism will go away when black people start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions”
So since the kneeling-bystander-killing cop got off scot-free I can hate all cops and it’s their fault? SWEET!
“Dr. Sowell’s writings are vital.”
Actually, “vile” is spelled v-i-l-e, not v-i-t-a-l. But then, only someone who flunked Economic Laws 101 would make such an obvious error in composition.
Ugh, I tried like six times to write a well-thought-out, appropriate comment on her site, but had to keep deleting it. I think I finally nailed it, though.
Alkon has long been Marty Peretz in a scrunchie. She likes to rant and rave about the islamojihadiricans too.
Just read some more of her comments thread. It’s like reading Kafka, or stories where government sends the closest relative of someone they’ve kidnapped, tortured and murdered a bill.
I hate her so fucking much.
It’s like reading Kafka, or stories where government sends the closest relative of someone they’ve kidnapped, tortured and murdered a bill.
Well, if the kid had only had the foresight to be born to a family without a drug dealer in it his credit rating would be that much better, wouldn’t it?
Amy Alkon is just Megan McAddled without the expensive apartment.
The fact is, that mother deserved to get shot for being stupid. If only her spawn weren’t still around to turn into crackheads and thieves. Why are so many blacks druggies and criminals? Do they have inferior DNA and self-restraint mechanisms? Higher sex and violence drive? We never got the jungle out of them in hundreds of years. Maybe they should go back, except there all so fat and lazy now they’d die without friend chicken and hair extensions and cable tv.
Dr. Sowell’s writings are viral.
I don’t know, I think Amy Alkon has an expensive apartment. She seems pretty well-to-do and probably has been her whole life.
The fact is, if she is well to do and has a nice apartment and earns a good living on the free market from hard work, she earned it. The left always hates success and wants to tax it away out of spit to give to the useless to gain votes. Liberals are parasites.
alec said,
Always the bridesmaid. 🙁
Oooh, sorry there. I missed that earlier, probably because I had “Don’t tase me bro” going through my head.
Looks like the wiki demons have already gotten ahold of Ms. (?) Alkon’s page.
Oh, man, that’s just too rich.
Oh, ho ho ho.
The fact is, liberals worship B. HUSSEIN Osama because he is black and muslim, and they want to make being white and christian illegal and punish those who are. Here in the heartland, you will fail in your attempt to bias USA to the left. We are strong and patriotics, and we salute the flag and say the pledge and pray. YOu liberals pray to Satan and the God Of Darwin to kill White Chrisitans.
Ya know what I miss? I miss the days when having a public racist outburst would get you fired forever. I mean, ya remember how long Jimmy the Greek lasted after he outed himself as a racist? One day.
America is a worse place when we don’t shun and penalize out-and-proud racist motherfuckers like Alkon.
Ugh, I tried like six times to write a well-thought-out, appropriate comment on her site, but had to keep deleting it. I think I finally nailed it, though.
Perfect. And the dialog in the following two comments is wonderful as well.
The fact is, after further research, this person is a foulmouthed, business and SUV hating transgendered peice of garbage. She is correct about most black people being bad, but I cannot support her if she is so full of hate for success and also a fag-hag.
Although, Doctorb, that long thoughtful comment you were working on, did make its way into her thread. Which one of you SadlyNaughts is officious_pedant @ 3:58 PM?
Off topic, but too funny not to mention.
Noted foreign policy and U.N. expert Dr. Jonah:
U.N. Security Council [Jonah Goldberg]
Why on earth is Obama calling for a UN Security Council resolution, essentially against Russia? Doesn’t he know Russia has a veto? Isn’t it crazy to think that Russia will vote against its national policy? Does Obama understand this? Or is this just the sort of thing Democrats must say whenever something bad happens? What am I missing?
Update: Aha, I stand corrected:
Jonah,
RE: Obama calling for a UN Security council resolution, you discuss Russia’s veto on the Security Council. According to Article 27 of the UN Charter, a party to a dispute must abstain from voting, so Russia could not exercise its veto. However, they can probably depend on China to veto on their behalf.
Me: I assume the reader is right about China (given Tibet and all), but the Chinese must nonetheless be exceedingly cross with Russia given how much this has stepped on the Olympics.
Oooh, I wanna try!
“if she is well to do and has a nice apartment and earns a good living on the free market from hard work, she earned it the right to justify a cop killing an unarmed woman because she had too many kids with drug dealers or something.”
“The left always hates success things that have nothing to do with the fucking topic @ hand and wants to tax it make fun of you out of spit wait, no that’s right…uh, to give it to the useless human beings, just like you and me.”
“Liberals are parasites neighbors, family and friends. I also heard they like food.”
Man, I see why you guys like this Gary fellow. He’s shittastic.
Update: Aha, I stand corrected:
I doubt doughboy standing.
Strikethru HTML: the only thing on here that IS useless.
Neon Ovenlight—
You can’t use <s>, last I tried <strike> worked fine though.
testingStrikethru HTML: the only thing on here that IS useless.
Well, crossing my fingers and hoping WordPress doen’t make an idiot out of me again.
Seems to be working fine for meTry
<strike>Your text here</strike>
Which one of you SadlyNaughts is officious_pedant @ 3:58 PM?
Heaven knows, ‘officious’ and ‘pedant’ don’t narrow it down very much.
Update: Aha, I stand corrected:
The fact is, that is the distilled summary of Dr. Loadpants’ career. That, and the sound of cheeto crunching.
I agree with you liberals – I think it is shocking when people openly applaud eliminationist rhetoric.
In other news, Scott shrieks hysterically,
I know what you mean, Scott.
By the way, S,N! liberals, I’ve asked you in the past to please stop linking to these joke sites. I know this can’t really be Scott’s work product, but I laugh helplessly at it anyway.
I agree with you liberals – I think it is shocking when people openly applaud eliminationist rhetoric.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61OoR-qEqs)
In other news, Scott shrieks hysterically,
I know what you mean, Scott. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton)
By the way, S,N! liberals, I’ve asked you in the past to please stop linking to these joke sites. I know this (http://blogs.lubbockonline.com/slemmons/index.php) can’t really be Scott’s work product, but I laugh helplessly at it anyway.
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Smut Clyde said,
August 12, 2008 at 1:45
Which one of you SadlyNaughts is officious_pedant @ 3:58 PM?
Heaven knows, ‘officious’ and ‘pedant’ don’t narrow it down very much.
Well ya did leave out dirty, stinking, and hippy.
Not to mention, fucking.
Am I banned for calling you out too much for your bullshit?
multitudinous Gary sez: …they’d die without friend chicken…
Isn’t Friend Chicken Harvey Birdman’s paralegal?
I cannot go to the goddess’ site. Simply cannot. It’s been that kind of day. So instead I’ll focus on the what’s-their-names with the bajillion kids.
Yeah. And they did the all-J thing. You know, all umpty-fukillion kids have names starting with J? The scary jeebus family next door to me when I was a kid did the same thing — not just all the same initial, but all J. What the hell is it with the letter J? Is it for Jeebus? Or maybe just because it’s the most common first-name initial in English, thus allowing them the possibility of eleventy-hundred kids who don’t break the pattern? What?
I read that whole thread.
To quote Doctorb, I hate her so fucking much!
I think she bothers me most because she (states) that she holds a number of views I think of as “good”, i.e. anti-death penalty, against the drug war, and then she takes these vicious, brutal stands that totally negate those positions. She’s effectively saying that although it’s a tragedy that Ms. Williams was killed, she deserved the death penalty for making bad choices in life and being on the wrong side of the drug war.
wow. And her commenters . . .
They replaced Peanut?
John Hodgman’s “The Areas of My Expertise”:
“Working in the [Mall of America] is a little nerve-wracking,” she confides, “because as the largest mall in the United States, we are a prime target for terrorism.”
“You know what”, I say. “Fuck you”.
I highly recommend the audiobook, as it is read by John Hodgman in his perfect Hodgmanesque deadpan.
I will give her points for not deleting comments and not banning people who personally insulted her. That’s a rare thing on either side of the political spectrum.
She’s still a horrible person.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
August 12, 2008 at 0:05
Next up, Amy Alkon explains that she’s not anti-semitic because she’s also called Koreans cheap bastards.
No way, dude, cos they’re a model minority to Amy:
From AA in her comments section:
How many Asians do you see having multiple babies out of wedlock and whose culture — and even whose families — let them take up with multiple criminals without stigma?
There is a problem in the black community, and it is lack of criticism or stigma for this behavior.
Guess she missed Better Luck Next Time.
NMremote wrote:
Thank you Robert Kagan for your analysis. You are right on target. Now the US needs a plan – send anti-aircraft missiles; some A-10 Warthogs to turn the Russian tanks into shrapnel; and a few long range bombers so the Georgian pilots can drop a few bombs on the Kremlin.
The Russian FSB/KGB/Mafia is playing with a stacked deck, but they have a loosing hand. NATO and the US should call their bluff and force these two-bit hoods running Russia to back-off.
8/11/2008 7:22:27 PM
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Sorry for the O/T (heh heh heh)
Git ‘er done!
From the Pleeze Stop Diggin’ Files– A JONAH UPDATE:
Update II: I should quit while I’m ahead — or a bit behind — but I could’ve sworn that there was more to this than the above reader suggested. After all, the only time I can remember when the UN Security Council voted decisively against the wishes of a permanent member was the famous episode authorizing the Korean War police action when the Soviet rep walked out before the vote. Anyway, here’s an email from a different reader:
Dear Jonah,
Regarding your recent post on the UN Charter: Your reader failed to cite the full Article 27, which only calls for a member of the Security Council that is party to a dispute to abstain from voting if the matter at hand is being decided under Chapter VI or paragraph 3 of Article 52. Chapter VI of the Charter pertains to “Pacific Settlement of Disputes”. It is a toothless chapter and simply amounts to the UN asking the parties involved to settle their disputes by peaceful means. Chapter VI resolutions are not binding on member states. Russia would not, however, be required to abstain from voting on any Article VII resolutions regarding a dispute to which it is a party. Article VII of the Charter pertains to “Action With Respect to Threats to the Peace, Breaches of the Peace, and Acts of Aggression,” which has more teeth than Chapter VI (at least in theory) and is theoretically binding on all member states.
So, your first assumption regarding Obama was likely correct: He simply doesn’t know what he is talking about, and has taken this opportunity to demonstrate once again his foreign policy cluelessness.
And then there’s this from another reader:
I hope you aren’t giving Obama credit for knowing that Russia would have to abstain? He didn’t even know which Senate committee he was on.
As a practical matter I do not think (though I could easily be wrong) any resolution adversely directly relating to a member of the security council has ever been successful. Tacit agreement not to use the security council against its permanent members.
Its so sad how an attractive young woman like Ms. Akon decides to hate herself so much.
Negligent and abusive parents no doubt.
Dear Amy what your daddy did to you was wrong and he should be ashamed and not you.
Let go of the self-destructive thinking and forgive yourself.
“Asians” numbering in the billions is the ONLY reason bigots make sure to ‘clarify’ their shit talk.
Well, if a cop tells me to get down, I suppose I could try (in my own pathetic way).
What if he tells me to rock out with my cock out?
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LA Confidential Pantload said,
August 12, 2008 at 2:41
Well, if a cop tells me to get down, I suppose I could try (in my own pathetic way).
What if he tells me to rock out with my cock out?
Party Out of Bounds!
“Racism will go away when black people start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions and making better life choices. (that was a generalization there.”
Kinda like rape will go away when women stop having vaginas.
NMremote wrote:
Now the US needs a plan – send […] a few long range bombers so the Georgian pilots can drop a few bombs on the Kremlin.
Is NMremote the same as you, ITTDGY? Shame on you.
After all, the cunning plan of “Attack your adversary by providing strategic weapons to a small allied state in the adversary’s backyard” worked perfectly well for Krushchev in 1962.
Yes, we always act out of spit!
Herr Doktor, NMremote is not me, but I know genius when I sees it.
Now if only the spam filter will release my youtube!
I read that whole thread.
RB’s over there engaging her in dialogue right now. I thought he may have been just doing a drive-by, and in the interests of world peace and comity between the idealogically immiscible, I took a swing at it. Now I feel dumb, because RB sounds so much less like an angry teenager from a remedial English class.
Now I feel dumb
We should both feel dumb for engaging an advice columnist.
because RB sounds so much less like an angry teenager from a remedial English class.
One admires the cat’s Zen calm. For me, I’d just spit on the woman if I could. With a mouthfull of Copenhagen, no less. I’d make a special trip to buy a can if I knew we’d be in the same room.
We should both feel dumb for engaging an advice columnist.
There are all sorts of interesting people with bad jobs. Dan Savage, for instance.
Her column runs in the free weekly alt paper here. Always hated her for her dogshit column, never knew she was a wingnut.
btw That’s some really shitty photoshopping. I mean, the commentary here is top notch but…
Dan Savage, for instance.
Now there’s a guy who can say “oops” in the right circumstances. Whatever those might be.
Whether it’s truthers, dominionists, nazis or garden variety wingnuts, Righteous Bubba can engage them in a patient manner, trying, usually sadly unsuccessfully to make them see at least the logical inconsistencies of their position.
Me, I just wanna kick ’em in the nuts.
I don’t have that man’s capacity for sanity…
mikey
Me, I just wanna kick ‘em in the nuts.
I dare you to kick her in the nuts!
I double dog dare mikey to kick her in the nuts, and then post a wingnut recipe.
Amy didn’t drive me to comment. That eejit Brian didn’t drive me to comment. Toubrouk drove me to comment. What an unspeakable asshole that Toubrouk person is. His/her other favorite site is probably V-dork.
Toubrouk said:
I need a shower and a beer.
Amy Alkon Nut Soup with Leather Garnish.
3 slices Amy Alkon, Ruefully Explained
1 Antique Leather Combat Boot, Moldy
3 Teaspoons Physics (F=MA)
Relentlessly pick over the Amy Alkon, discard the useless parts such as the brain and the heart. Lovingly lace up the combat boot. Apply the physics eleven times at room temperature. Serves two sociopathic wingnuts….
mikey
Amy Alkohon: Another slobbering dumbass who has never been to West Virginia. Or Kentucky. Or Tennessee. Or … anywhere you can park a trailer and set up a meth lab in the woods, really.
Hey you rascally kids, remember that the last DIGG profile of Sadly, No! users broke down as:
*Sweet WordPress JeeBus, Gimme Blockquote*
I’m afraid I’m a Methodist, but some of us are just untraditionally gendered. Say it with a smile, ‘K?
I’m inclined to include Unitarians, just because we’re big hearted peoples.
Hmm.
Mugs, Pugs and Thugs.
I’m very comfortable with what I see as recognition of my contributions to this board…
mikey
WordPress Jeebus is Real!
Praise the Horde!
How many Asians do you see having multiple babies out of wedlock and whose culture — and even whose families — let them take up with multiple criminals without stigma?
I dunno… where are we looking? On television? How many black families do you see patting their daughters on the back for having a series of failed relationships with guys who aren’t going anywhere? If white kids got shot for being screw-ups, whole neighborhoods in LA, Brooklyn, and Vancouver would be eliminated.
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Non-fucking robots.
I wonder if Amy and her wingnuts thought the family at Ruby Ridge deserved what they got?
I dunno, guys. I don’t think we can get it done. I’m gonna propose we cancel this project. Just pull the plug. We can’t get this useless bucket of bolts past “Dude, where’s my recession”. I don’t think it’s a funding problem.
I think it’s a technology problem. Let’s just kill this whole Reynolds bot program and concentrate on Genitalia Flavored Ice Cream. Much more revenue potential…
Advice Goddess? Funny, I can find neither goddess-hood nor advice there.
Neat trick, leaving out the child who also got shot … bit of a big gaping hole in her argument there, so to speak. But then, said child WAS guilty of First Degree Negro with intent to live.
Was going to leave a comment but it’s obvious her head has all the absorbency of concrete, & I don’t need the typing practise.
But I still do need the spelling practice … sigh …
If white kids got shot for being screw-ups, whole neighborhoods in LA, Brooklyn, and Vancouver would be eliminated.
Not to mention most of the population of the state I live in.
Righteous Bubba can engage them in a patient manner, trying, usually sadly unsuccessfully to make them see at least the logical inconsistencies of their position.
All in vain, people. All in vain.
Robert Altemeyer told me so.
Also Robert Hare.
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Doughboy is digging his way to China.
UPDATE II: One(?) More Update: I don’t know how I missed this. This email says it all:
Jonah,
I hope you have space for another update to that post, because John McCain also called for a Security Council resolution condemning Russia. So today I learned that neither you, Barack Obama, nor John McCain know how the Security Council works.
Me: Okay, so I go back to the original questio, but put McCain in the dock too. Why call for a UN Security Council resolution when there can’t possibly be one? My suspicion is that the answer is the same for Obama as it is for McCain. It’s simply something people who believe in the UN say whether it makes sense or not.
It’s simply something people who believe in the UN say whether it makes sense or not.
Remember this for every future Jonah Goldberg assertion ever.
In essence, for nothing other than intuition and the hope one has when one leans far to the side and farts, and happily discovers there’s nothing but gas there, Jonah is right this time.
Russia will not be deterred until she accomplishes the goals she set for herself at the outbreak of hostilities. Just like the US wasn’t willing to go halfway across Iraq, but was insistant upon toppling the Hussein government, the Russians have the overwhelming military capability in their region and will both demonstrate that and get some political goals accomplished.
You cannot expect the Russians to act significantly differently than the americans. They both have huge military capabilities, and they both are deeply invested in dominating their sphere of influence.
I think it matters a LOT that Georgia has a border with Russia and Iraq is nowhere NEAR america….
mikey
Wander over to Consumerist, and anytime identity theft comes up Amy will jump in with her story of how her identity was stolen by some black woman and she has to spend all her money to catch this person because the police and courts don’t work fast enough. Over and over again.
So yeah, I can see her saying this, and defending it.
I suppose someone’s pointed this out, but “Georgia Invades Russia” would have sounded hilarious when I was kid.
Genitalia Flavored Ice Cream
Served in ripe, halved peaches.
Served in ripe, halved peaches.
But to cover all bases, also served as an integral part of the banana split.
Shalom, gentlemen.
It’s pretty obvious to me and everyone that liberals can’t handle freedom, so we’re going to take it away. The fact is, liberals hate freedom and America and can’t be trusted.
Man, fuck the police.
A while back, when the police here shot a black woman for no reason, somebody wrote a letter to the paper, and one thing they said has stayed with me. They said that we Americans seem to think that one shooting of an innocent person per year or so is just the cost of having a police force.
My grandfather used to say that the police should dress in monk’s habits, because when they wear those militaristic uniforms it only encourages military violence.
Me, I’d go further. I think it’s clear that we need to take away their guns. I’m sorry, but it’s clear that they just can’t be trusted with firearms. Maybe in a few years we’ll give them back and see if they can handle the responsibility like grown-ups.
I commented, but got a call in the middle and lost my train of thought.
The gist of it was that no-one even seems to know whose residence was raided. Was it the home of a woman not accused of anything being raided by police looking for an alleged offender who didn’t live there? The warrant process was obviously dangerously sloppy – because the authorities involved don’t care enough to get it right, just as the nuttosphere doesn’t care enough to report it accurately, or defend their position with any depth of thought.
These are the same folks that don’t want anyone anywhere at anytime to ever use any form of contraception EVER!!
Also they want us to never ever not ever even think of an abortion as an option of an unwanted pregnancy.
Maybe they mean just white babies that will be not-beaten into phony macho republicans proudly ignorant douche-bags? That they are raised so extremely repressed anything that isn’t inside the box of their small sad little dream world where their douche-bag parents home schooled and or trapped them. Where they desperately want it to be Leave it to Beaver 1957 where women know their place and minorities are neither seen nor heard. A larger part is having blind faith in the bible (Republican fire and brimstone Jesus) and the GOP’s newest talking points.
I think it’s clear that we need to take away their guns.
Um. Ok. Sure.
Tell you what. I’ve gotta wash my hair.
You go ahead and get started collecting those cops guns.
I’ll come along and help as soon as I can…
mikey
…they desperately want it to be Leave it to Beaver 1957 where women know their place and minorities are neither seen nor heard…
I think they really liked Sammy Davis Jr.
mikey
Maybe they should go back, except there all so fat and lazy now they’d die without friend chicken and hair extensions and cable tv.
project much, fake Gary
Once upon a time there was this dude who hung out with criminals and stuff and his mom was an unwed mother. And then the “cops” “put a cap” in his “a**”. This is kind of like that, except not.
Naw, they executed that “Yeshuah” dude for terrorism. As Governor “Punch” Pilate said at the press conference afterwards, “Those People don’t have our standards. If they’re gonna hang around with known criminals, they’ve accepted the possibility of being mistaken for criminals their own selves. Why, it was one of their own cell members that supplied information crucial to Yeshuah’s apprehension, in return for the generous reward offered by the upstanding members of the Those-People community.”
OT – but the Penn memos remind me again that I loathe Mark Penn with the heat of a thousand suns.
Precision of Sowell’s vision not ital
Rambling silliness in comments is vital
She’s a man, baybee.
OT, but I just wandered over to see the reaction of the No Quarter crowd to the release of the Clinton campaign internal memos detailing Mark Penn’s plan to explicitly play nasty to win.
Funnily enough, there’s no mention of it, but there is a stunning expose on how Obama visiting his grandmother somehow indicates he’s not half the family man John McCain is (I guess with all those ex-mother-in-laws, Obama could never compete); a well-thought out piece on how pollsters are dumb for asking questions about race without mentioning that Obama is a scary black man who wants to rape their daughters; and chilling evidence that Obama’s people are indeed prepared to silence critics of his birth certificate’s kerning using methods up to and including e-murder.
no wonder her hair is super fabulous!!
Hey, listen…unfortunately, I am not a jet-setting columnist either. I’m working on living in the style I’d like to be accustomed to…but in the mean time, my entire outfit usually costs less than the average girl’s shirt, and I get my hair cut at Supercuts.
Doesn’t “no quarter” pretty much mean “play nasty to win”?
Literally yes, but they’d never admit that St Hil was that way inclined. That’s why she had to have other people do it for her, or something. Even though it was Obama that was the bad guy.
(The logical twists and turns in the viewpoint are quite painful to attempt to replicate.)
This bitch has certainly learned to write from all her nightly readings of “Der völkische Beobachter”.
(1). You guys have been good about it, but lay offa the transphobia – if your gender were clogged up with horrible woman-hating cunts like this you’d have enough to worry about with the slurs.
(2). As a tangent to (1), there are two main theories of transsexuality – one of which is unreliable and one of which is malicious. The former – the ‘woman trapped in a man’s body’ thing – is pretty much how things work, with an extremely, EXTREMELY small set of exceptions. I think she’s one of them, which we’ll get into later. The other one claims that there are two kinds of transsexuals – ‘autogynephiles’ and ‘homosexuals’, evidently because the only reason a man would choose to be a woman (always about choice with wingnuts, which is why they tend to like this idea) is either out of some fetishized contempt for himself or a cunning trap to lure in straight dick. It’s a deeply unpleasant little thesis, and one that’s only gained traction because there are a number of people who fit loosely into category #1. (There is not a single recorded instance in the First World, as far as I am aware, of any transitions done explicitly for the reasons in category #2 – it’s just the category autogynephilists shove anyone who refuses to admit to a filthy fetish into.)
[Of course, the first schema is much, much more accurate but still has huge holes in it. Until very recently it was basically required that someone exhibit an extremely stereotypical femininity or masculinity to change genders with official sanction; until very recently exhibiting an active sex drive without a schoolgirl’s shame officially meant womanhood wasn’t right for you, whether that meant you could transition one way or couldn’t the other. And yeah, under that regime male-to-female transsexuals have had waists reshaped into absurd hourglass figures, permanent makeup tattooed on, and even fucking ribs removed, but it’s a decent system with room for improvement. The other one is just pointing and laughing at the fetishist, and it doesn’t even fucking believe in FTMs – just thinks of them as uppity dykes.]
BUT: This doesn’t mean there aren’t genetic males who physically modify their bodies for reasons not directly related to normal gender dysphoria. Unfortunately, when you strip these people down they tend to have HUGE issues with womanhood, with sexual domination, with whatever. You know, like blaming women for rape; because she personally believes her role in life as a woman is to aggressively pursue an enormous man to render her helpless (like Condi Rice and so many other wingnut toppy subs), she is evidently incapable of imagining a woman with different desires, and being confronted with one who has different priorities makes her angry.
Of course, there are a lot of nasty things going on in the TG sexual mindset – I really wouldn’t be surprised, considering her fixation on the horrible lazy coloreds, if she was one of those despicable queens who trolls glory holes for horny black guys to act out a ridiculous sexual play with. (Incidentally, you really would not believe how much crossover there is between your Gates of Vienna racist fuckwads and your autogynephiles being a filthy and inferior woman even before the depradations of the hated and unmanful Arab.) I can accept interracial fetishism – it creeps me out and I don’t want to see it, but I can accept it – but it has to be done in private and the issues behind it have to be suppressed. You can’t just go blaming a victim in a fucking wild-cannon shooting because you prefer not to deal with black people as human beings. It’s not fucking cricket.
(3) Fuck you, lady.
(4) Another tangent to (1) – again, you guys have been good about it, but please don’t use someone’s gender identity as an insult. That she’s an ugly person with an ugly soul has nothing to do with the fact she was born with testicles, and using it to impugn perfectly innocent people born into the wrong gender is as unfair as, say, calling an infant who took a bullet nasty names because he looks like a random drug dealer.
(5) Finally, leave open the possibility she’s just trash. There’s plenty of people who have fucked up things internalized about race and just need to have it beaten out of them. It’s a remote possibility – she’s a dick about just about everything else, a typical reactionary without the patience to pretend to be Little People, but we ain’t perfect ourselves.
I just read Amy Alkon’s wiki bio.
It’s interesting how Alkon expects tolerance for her own activities and yet considers ridicule and victim-blaming to be acceptable responses to people with whom she disagrees. Hypocrisy and stupidity are not the character traits I would expect (or desire) in someone who gives advice for living.
Alec, I call BULLSHIT on this:
(There is not a single recorded instance in the First World, as far as I am aware, of any transitions done explicitly for the reasons in category #2 – it’s just the category autogynephilists shove anyone who refuses to admit to a filthy fetish into.)
I have a very close friend and a partner of over a decade who would both say that you are perpetrating a lot of trans misconceptions here: they are very open about saying that they chose to change their gender for a myriad of personal reasons, and there are no so-called “filthy fetishes” (??! WTF??) involved. I won’t even touch upon your readily apparent sexual hangups with this last comment, but only shake my head in amazement.
Please spare us the wagging-finger lecture and pretending you are the end-all expert on this topic, as well as projecting your self-loathing onto all other transsexuals.
For your amusement, I’m still over there, tut-tut’ing them into behaving like adults. I’m beginning to see the appeal in concern trolling – only I’m just trying to get them to recognize that accusing a dead woman of being a crack whore is socially unacceptable.
Alec,
the fact she was born with testicles
Was she, though? I had the impression that the “M-to-F” thing was just a bit of wiki-vandalism-as-means-of-saying-“fuck you”. She’s being mocked for having strong facial features. If I’m right about that, the PC Violation you want to criticise isn’t transphobia but rather looksism (if that’s what it’s called).
If I’m right about that, the PC Violation you want to criticise isn’t transphobia but rather looksism (if that’s what it’s called).
Hurling “transgender” at someone like an epithet is transphobia, whether they actually are transgendered or not. Even civil rights legislation typically extends protection to those who are only perceived to be members of a suspect class.
For example, telling someone they have a “n*gger nose” would be racist, whether or not the person were black.
RE the original article: There’s racist cops and then there’s pissy-pants scared o’ brown people cops. Looks to me like Lima’s got the pissy-pants variety. They need to hire a squad of black cops to hold their hands when they go into the hood until they learn not to go all Barney Fife at the sight of a brown face.
Hey, maybe we should increase comprehensive sex education and make contraceptives cheaper and more widely available? Wait, we can’t do that? Oh, we should just expect poorer people not to have sex, and then lecture them when they do anyway? Okay.
Re trans jokes: I’ll make the same observation that I did with razzing fatty wingnuts, namely that Frank Zappa had it right.
Look, I was in fear for my life. She may have thrown a baby at me. That thing might’ve had rabies or some sort of infectious make-you-black-virus. And pfft, year-old? That baby was fourteen months. Thing must’ve weighed thirty pounds, a guy can get seriously injured if he’s hit by a flying baby.
To paraphrase Henry Waternoose from Monster’s Inc., “There is nothing more toxic and deadly than a Negro child!”
grok this particularly charming comment from one thomas blair on the alkon article:
“Racism will go away when black people start taking responsibility for themselves and their actions and making better life choices. (that was a generalization there. Lots of black people do. But most do not.)”
yes, thank you for showing us conservatism’s seamy underbelly, tom.
p.s. i would like to personally speak up in favor of filthy fetishes. they get a bad rap.
Your Uncle Bastard: I’m entirely sure you’re misreading Alec. I believe he’s actually arguing against the position you impute to him.
Would you believe, I’m still over there. Reinforcements have arrived, I may take that as my opportunity to withdraw and try to wash out my brain.
Progress Report:
They are now accepting that the cop may have acted recklessly.
They might be uncomfortable that he’s not getting punished at all.
They’ve stopped speculating about whether the dead woman was a junkie.
They aren’t using gangsta rap to justify their attitudes towards blacks.
I think I might even have them spelling her name correctly.
Missed Goals:
They are still trying to lay the blame entirely or at least predominantly on Tarika.
They haven’t grasped the idea that guilt by association is a bad standard.
They haven’t accepted that they are racists, or at least might, just maybe, have some small tiny amount of racist preconceptions.
They’ve fallen back on the “they can call each other nigger” excuse.
There has not been a spontaneous outbreak of singing of Kumbaya.
So 5/10. Pretty awesome for an on-base-average but that type of performance will never get me into a good MBA program.
I was just over there catching up and noting the good work being done by some of you. I’m finding it all too depressing, though. Sad. The whole situation makes me sad down to my bones.
Is there an IronMan trophy for trolling? I’ve outlasted most of the stubbornest wingnuts! Also, hey RB!
Is there an IronMan trophy for trolling?
You are doing a heck of a lot of work. I’m just a nitpicker.
I have a very close friend and a partner of over a decade who would both say that you are perpetrating a lot of trans misconceptions here: they are very open about saying that they chose to change their gender for a myriad of personal reasons, and there are no so-called “filthy fetishes” (??! WTF??) involved. I won’t even touch upon your readily apparent sexual hangups with this last comment, but only shake my head in amazement.
I think you misunderstand. I was describing the way the autogynephilists (The Man Who Would Be Queen etc) divide transsexuals, not the way they actually are. It’s a nasty and inaccurate theory, but it’s got an unfortunate amount of traction and it accurately describes an extremely small number of deeply confused people – people with whom the theorists in question evidently maintain exclusive contact.
Was she, though? I had the impression that the “M-to-F” thing was just a bit of wiki-vandalism-as-means-of-saying-”fuck you”. She’s being mocked for having strong facial features. If I’m right about that, the PC Violation you want to criticise isn’t transphobia but rather looksism (if that’s what it’s called).
Yeah, I’ve suspected that as well, but considering the parvenu’s attitude towards the horrible poor-choice-making rapees she’s got a seriously weird idea of what it means to be a woman either way.
There’s a sort of look that’s a lot rarer among genetic women than transwomen, and she’s got it. That doesn’t prove anything, but it’s suggestive.
But yeah, using it as ‘fuck you’ is wrong. Don’t do that; whatever her chromosomes are is tangential to the fact that she’s a huge asshole with serious fucking issues when it comes to gender and race.
I’m not going to read through the thread right now to see if anyone has already mentioned this, but right off the bat the
made me immediately think of this little animation of the good Mr. Pierce’s post from the end of March.
In comments over there:
Amy, you are the intellectual daughter of Camille Paglia.
Two with one blow!
RB I had to go see if that was true, and it was! That Liz character is a real piece of work. It’s not everyday that you see someone admit to being a brownshirt..
I’ve got to stay away from that site, but it draws the eye like a bloody freeway crash.
I do think it’s funny that they seem to have no clue where we came from.
I do think it’s funny that they seem to have no clue where we came from.
Well someone on there claimed we were all from Radley Balko’s place. Let ’em believe what they like. Maybe it’ll turn ’em off libertarians.
Amy, you are the intellectual daughter of Camille Paglia.
Truer words have never been inadvertently spoken.
It’s like picking a scab I tells ya. Shoot me now.
Sad news. Despite ending that horribly ugly thread in a relatively civilized manner (until Radwaste showed up) she’s decided to ask for some more. She’s whipped out a variation of the “but it’s okay for them to use the n-word” argument. And like a moth to a flame… I wonder if I’ll be her fifth ever ban?
It’s a real shame her site is blocked…
(enjoys life without fucktards)
Flowers, pretty!
I believe I have achieved being banned. She was most enjoyable to pick on.
B&!
No ban, brief moderation for some reason.
I am a free speech advocate. I don’t ban people.
212.124.244.131
Interesting that somebody accusing me of being racist seems to have something against transgendered people. I don’t. But I think the person with the IP address above, who edited my Wikipedia page to say I was a male-to-female transsexual, and who clearly isn’t smart or articulate enough to debate me on the issues, could only resort to that.
For the record, I thought it was hilarious.
And hey, check it out — those doctors are doing some amazing work these days (photo of my boobs in a tight dress here):
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2008/08/15/wiki_tranny.html
their outrage is not directed at women in the black community who squeeze out litters of fatherless children
Go over and read at my site, you illiterate loser. It’s been a common way to refer to anyone who had a large quantity of children — for centuries. I’ve said it in the past about Catholics, Muslims, and really rich women (a trend for them to have litters, too, recently in the news).
Because I don’t write in fear of being called racist doesn’t mean I am racist.
And how many of you windy mush brains above have a program you’ve started at an inner city school to demystify “making it” and to tell girls not to get pregnant as teens, etc., where you give an afternoon of your time once a month, and are about to bring in other speakers as well? Clearly the actions of a racist!
Well someone on there claimed we were all from Radley Balko’s place. Let ‘em believe what they like. Maybe it’ll turn ‘em off libertarians.
Bubbles, dear, I gave John Stossel a book party with Reason Magazine. I’m a libertarian, and a big supporter of Reason, and I was recently profiled in a new libertarian magazine, Doublethink. And here’s what was said about my advice column when I won in the LA Press Club Awards:
“Judges’ comments: Alkon’s column is a searing combination of science, libertarianism, and sass that makes for fun and thought-provoking reading. She’s not afraid to make people angry.”
A pity I don’t have worthy competitors as debaters in the likes of Righteous Bubbles.
Bubbles, dear, I gave John Stossel a book party with Reason Magazine.
Newsflash for the vain: you’re not the only person writing at your site.
In any case continue your dehumanizing and racist ways.
She seems to think changing your name to Righteous “Bubbles” is clever, RB.
Kinda sums her up in a nutshell, eh?
It’s already a stupid name; how can you compound it?
And how many of you windy mush brains above have a program you’ve started at an inner city school to demystify “making it” and to tell girls not to get pregnant as teens, etc., where you give an afternoon of your time once a month, and are about to bring in other speakers as well? Clearly the actions of a racist!
It could be, especially when you call them sluts deserving of death if they fuck up. But hey, whatever. Your thick skin in the matter is impressive.
Bubbles, dear, I gave John Stossel a book party with Reason Magazine.
Wow! The vapid celebrating the inane!
It’s already a stupid name; how can you compound it?
Whatever, “Leftus Dumbba”.
Wow! The vapid celebrating the inane!
Perfect.
Whatever, “Leftus Dumbba”.
You big Gayby.
Bubbles, dear, I gave John Stossel a book party with Reason Magazine.
Not exactly a bona fide, is it?
Heh heh, “bona.”
Your obsession with Amy Alkon is a little disturbing … in a kind of sad “get help, freak” pathetic kind of way. I hope that your motive is merely the obviously rational one of financial gain (and that you’re just playing your audience for cash), because if it’s not, well, I hope you realise it’s truly weird and dysfunctional to spend so much time behind your computer posting online rants about another individual complete with bad Photoshop jobs … like something out of a serial killer movie.
our obsession with Amy Alkon is a little disturbing … in a kind of sad “get help, freak” pathetic kind of way.
Welcome to the snipe hunt! I think there’s one over there!
Oh hey I’m glad that Amy was willing to go on record saying she thinks it’s hilarious that someone said she’s a tranny on wikipedia. Because when you refer to “libelous statements” and allude to how litigious you are, sometimes people can be intimidated. But if you actually consent to the dissemination of the statement, you reassure them that you aren’t going to get all lawyer-happy (because you’ve just shot any case you might have full of holes).
It’s worth noting that I’ve been banned.
Quoth Amy: I won’t ban you.
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