Slow news day at Sadly, No! 😀

They don’t hate us because of our freedoms, they hate us because of Creed.

That is really impressive. I thought only gun nuts, Paultards, and Scientologists were that persistent.

Sadly, No! has the best basements in town.

I wonder what’s up with Lynx and Lamb?

I see Yosef posted back in that thread a couple of years ago. Wonder what happened to him. Name change? Prison? Public office?

Are we talking about Creed from The Office here?

Wow, 2 years go by and this mark guy is still hot about it?

Get a life.

Amazingly, Righteous Bubba is still arguing with deranged Creed fans in this thread that started over two years ago.

I save the venom for those who deserve it.

A couple months ago I found Bubba arguing with a particularly virulent anti semite in the basement of another old thread.

Impressive the way he can keep all those balls in the air…

mikey

What happened to that woman who kept praying for everyone’s souls? Was she finally Raptured just so God wouldn’t be embarrassed?

That’s pretty funny. It’s the classic bonfire of the inanities: arguing about “opinion vs. fact”, irrelevant digressions into grammar- and punctuation-Naziism, posters telling each other “I’m ignoring you,” and of course whining about meanness and personal attacks by people doing exactly the same thing (who will now no doubt march into this thread and huff that they’re doing no such thing).

The only thing missing is someone only peripherally involved in the discussion chortling about how someone got PWNED!

Grrr. Susan! Of Texas!

RSS has made my life better. Or worse. One of the two.

I thought only gun nuts, Paultards, and Scientologists were that persistent.

I’m betting there’s some overlap.

Creed no longer exists.But that hasn’t had a noticable effect on their level of suckitude. Alas, it appears the suck is spreading:

Scott Stapp will be back out on the road May 19th with INXS! Scott will be singing a special combination of solo material and Creed hits you know and love!

Would it be wrong to hope Mr. Staph catches Hutchinson disease?

Sorry.

Here’s a bit of news:

Pentagon Admits Mistaken Arms Shipment

Boing! Surprise!

I dunno Arky. I suspect he’s more likely to succumb to Hutchence dis-ease.
No idea if he’s the wetsuit type, though.

In case anyone missed it, there’s also this juicy story about Scott Stapp getting punked by a bunch of drunk college kids a few years back.

In case anyone missed it, there’s also this juicy story about Scott Stapp getting punked by a bunch of drunk college kids a few years back.

Yep. Loved that story.

Hmm, it is not really a long flamewar, it is more like a thread necromancy, with some mark guy resurrecting the thread 2 years after the “best before date” expired.

I don’t even know who Creed IS and I know they’re lame.

I suspect he’s more likely to succumb to Hutchence dis-ease.

D’oh! Would you believe I have a disorder that renders me unable to spell the last name of musicians who died after 1980?

Yeah. That’s the ticket.

Scott Stapp is almost as big a hypocrite as Ted Nugent. Such a loathsome person.

You guys are crazy, “Proud Mary” is not that bad! Nor is “Bad Moon Rising!”

Nah, I got nothing.

Why is there a near 2-year gap in the comments for that link? There are no comments between March 9, 2006, and March 25, 2008. Was there a truce in the flame war, or did Creed-hater Brad delete all the best Creed-lover comments? Scandalous!

Also, while I’m no fan of Creed, their music is certainly better than anything pumped out by the American Idol or Disney machines. Having been forced to listen to my daughters’ growing collection of High School Musical/Hannah Montana/Jonas Brothers crap for the last two years, I would suggest a flame war against THAT industry would be more worthy of a 2-year battle than a fight against the Stapp infection.

I do appreciate Brad using the Creed fan flypaper strategy so that Righteous Bubba and the Sadly, No Surge can fight them here instead of home.

g – Creed was one of those post-grunge acts. Scott Stapp, the lead singer, who really, really wanted to be Eddy Vedder when he grew up, only the opposite of Eddy’s good politics, was a braggart Xtian who used to get preachy about this and that, all while drinking and doping like we used to, (allegedly) slapping around and cheating on his wife, etc etc. His wife later bashed him in the head with her cell phone. I laughed out loud when I heard that, not a supporter of domestic violence but the woman deserved a medal for not braining him with a pickaxe. He alienated his band members, who clearly loathe hime, and he was whiny throughout. Oh, and he sucked.

But Silverchair’s ok, right?

I mean it’s ok to like them, isn’t it?

mikey

I like silverchair. 🙂

non-righteous Bubba, I beg to differ:

…their music is certainly better than anything pumped out by the American Idol or Disney machines.

Their music is almost exactly the same as Chris Daughtry, who’s mostly a product of the Idol machine. So there!

I a;ways spell the name Eddie wrong. It’s some sort of glitch in my head.

Having and reviewing the comments feed is like regularly visiting the recycled records store. Eventually, you’re gonna find a jewel, or in this case, an anti-jewel.

So, which is worse: Creed or Stapp’s solo work?

What about Matchbox 20? Can I like Matchbox 20?
I mean, Can my friend who I’m not even particularly close to like Matchbox 20? If not, I’d be happy to ditch… my friend.

pedestrian, your friend and my, er, friend should be friends. They apparently have similar tastes in music.

I was actually expecting a decent defense of an indefensible band, but alas, it was not meant to be. “Critics suck” does not qualify as an adequate response to “Creed sucks,” which would be true even if every single critic operating today did in fact suck.

Proving once again that the Intert00bz is listening to everything, my Slacker Internet Radio player just decided to play “Higher” by Creed.

If I was paranoid I’d be suspicious…

mikey

Would it be wrong to hope Mr. Staph catches Hutchinson disease?

Booooooooooooo!

The fact is, yer all wrong. Blink 182 is where it’s at. Moreover, which is central to my point, it is scientifically proven that Creed will increase in its suckitude by a factor of 3.14, compounded quarterly, ad infinitum.

Matchbox 20, Creed and Silverchair have nothing on some of these other so-called popular artists from the prior decades, who sucked coal and oil shale.
At least no one is making anyone listen to THAT excrement.

Christopher Cross
Michael McDonald
Air Supply
Ashlee Simpson
Alabama

Stop these people before they (shudder) record again.

Creed = Winger

The funniest thing about that thread is Dr BLT promising to stop whoring his inane “satire” all the time.

Yeah, he really kept to that one. And I’m giving up weed and booze tomorrow.

“Creed = Winger”

I beg to differ. I know Kip Winger, Kip Winger is a friend of mine. Creed is no Kip Winger.

Get your facts straight!11!!

Sort of OT but sorta related, in a deranged Xtians kinda way, but someone should take a Claymore or a couch spring or something down to the Easter Bright and Gay thread and tell those drunken jebus juicers they need to go home and sleep it off.

So, which is worse: Creed or Stapp’s solo work?

Is there a difference? Staph regularly fired/pissed off the bandmembers who did more than pose and bellow.

MileHI, I have a friend who knew Kip Winger in Boulder, way back in the day. Small world, isn’t it?

Indeed it is Candy. Getting smaller every day.

Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if we used to party together back in the day or something.

The thought has crossed my mind . . .

D’oh! Would you believe I have a disorder that renders me unable to spell the last name of musicians who died after 1980?

Better than confusing Hutchinson’s disease with Parkinsons …
I ought to have known you wouldn’t wish that on whathisname.

Also, while I’m no fan of Creed, their music is certainly better than anything pumped out by the American Idol or Disney machines.

While I’m no fan of amoebic dysentery, it’s certainly better than ebola or anthrax.

Creed su

cks.

hey how about the “Rush sucks” basement corner? its around here somewhere….

Creed is actually a decent band guys, I don’t know what anyone has against them. The reason I like Creed is because they’re clean and don’t use profanity or talk about sexual conduct. But hey, we can disagree. Don’t sweat the small stuff right?

That’s funny. My parents idea of a good movie is one that doesn’t have any swears or sex scenes. The rinse cycle doesn’t have and swears or sex scenes, so lately they’ve taken to watching that.

Actually I enjoy movies from the 1940s and 50s for that very reason. Profanity and sexual lewdness are what has caused the downfall of American cinema in recent decades. The Wizard of Oz from 1939 is a good clean classic American film before Hollywood started to go sour.

I enjoy early movies, too. Pre-Hayes.

I loved the lesbian chick in Pandora’s Box, starring Lulu Brooks. How cool was that?

I’m betting you preferred the seating arrangement on buses from that era too, most likely.

Last post meant for Matt, obviously. Me type no gud sumtimes.

Me too, tigrismus. I like the 20’s heroin heroines, in particular The Girl Who Is Too Beautiful.

Then talk came along and ruined everything. And Hayes got rid of the sex and drugs. Bah! You kids get off my lawn!

I kind of like the WWII propoganda films too though. For sheer camp.

You know, the ones that end with a plea to buy war bonds in the lobby? Those are the best.

No of course I don’t approve of the seating arrangements on buses from that era, I’m not a racist. I just appreciate American classics that are clean and family friendly.

Sure, The Wizard of Oz is nice and wholesome, but I gotta tell you, that relationship between Dorothy and Scarecrow is a little weird.

Ever see the film To Kill a Mocking Bird? Now thats a great American classic.

Yeah the Scarecrow was a strange fella wasn’t he?

I used to watch The Wizard of Oz and I’d always think the same thing. Man, if I could get there with a couple mags of 5.56, I could depose that Wizard, send him into exile in Munchkinland, and rule the place with an iron hand.

Oh, and the stuff I’d do to Dorothy was EPIC!!

Over the rainbow indeed…

mikey

There’s some good music from that era, too… for some reason I just can’t get enough of this one, I’d rather listen to it than eat or have sex.

Is there a link limit? My two link post just got et. I promise it would not cause pharmaceutical priapism.

Why is there a near 2-year gap in the comments for that link? There are no comments between March 9, 2006, and March 25, 2008. Was there a truce in the flame war, or did Creed-hater Brad delete all the best Creed-lover comments?

Two words: Junior College.

Creed does have some very wholesome songs, alot better than most rock bands out there nowadays with all their profanity and sexual content.

When I get that feeling, I want sexual content.

Frank Sinatra now he’s a good singer.

When I get that feeling, I want sexual content.

Heh.

Hey! Let’s sing about crazy sideshow whores!

Matt, not having something that you don’t like doesn’t make a thing good. The classics are classics because they have something, not because they don’t have something. It can be a catchy story, sympathetic characters, historical interest, or even just that it is so bad that it is entertaining. To Kill a Mockingbird is a great movie, but not because it doesn’t have any nude scenes.

Even if you don’t like sexuality to be displayed on film, I would think that you could see past it to evaluate the entire work on its merit. I am sickened by racism, but there are some deeply racist movies and cartoons that are nonetheless among the best ever produced.

I love Frank Sinatra too.

Looks like I’ve been taken
Shaken off the tree
Looks like you’ll be making
The bacon just for me

You really don’t understand the whole concept of Rock and/or Roll, do you Matt?

You want wholesome, go listen to your Pat Boone albums.

Creed does without any doubt suck.

Forgot the link:

http://www.orangeshag.com/images/pbaconw.jpg

I agree pedestrian, the storyline itself is the most important part of a movie. Indeed it is what makes the movie, however the movies back in the 40s and 50s were films you could take your whole family to see. I wouldn’t want to take my grandkids to alot of the films that are playing now.

Children are innocent, they shouldn’t be exposed to sex until the age of 16 and shouldn’t be exposed to profanity ever.

The reason I like Creed is because they’re clean and don’t use profanity or talk about sexual conduct.

I like the Red Hot Chili Peppers for that exact same reason.

Mat McMahon: Check out Lucille Bogan. Good, clean, family music from the 1920s and 1930s. I think you’ll like her.

Kids can sing about crazy sideshow whores too! At about 7:35 from the wholesome Philadelphia Story. A great bit.

By the way guys, this is my first time on your blog and I like what I’ve seen so far. It is very humorous. Any advice for a newcomer?

Hey, what a coincidence. It’s my first time here too. We’re like twin newbies!

. Profanity and sexual lewdness are what has caused the downfall of American cinema in recent decades.

Can’t agree with you there. Not when we’re talking everything from Midnight Cowboy to the Sopranos (which is profoundly cinematic, even if its on the small screen).

I’ll agree that downfall of American Cinema has been done in by vulgarity, but its of the market, not of the artist. Jaws happened. Star Wars happened. Things only went South from there (albeit with enough exceptions to make the point practically irrelevant).

Indiana Jones was another excellent film, I hope the new one will be as good as the first three.

RB I knew Lydia the Tattooed Lady, she lives in Missoula, Mt.

Matt,

Let me recommend that you base your opinions on things like facts and other, you know, real shit. For instance, if you’re going to claim that movies from were so wholesome, you should make that claim only edumacatin yerseff. I recommend an intro to film class where you’ll learn about the delayed fuck, the near omnipresent rape motif, and so much more wholesome stuff in those films.

It’s a start.

Where would I take this film class?

Oops – should be “movies from [back whenever]…
I think that’ll work

J— said,
March 25, 2008 at 23:07 (kill)
Hey, what a coincidence. It’s my first time here too. We’re like twin newbies!

Well J—, here on this web site we all have to share a picture of ourselves. Here’s mine. Your turn.

There’s another tip – google is your friend

Any advice for a newcomer?

Don’t beg.

Just a little classic by Mendel Picasso.

Anyone know what that line means from Lydia? Never figured it out.

Fuck I just begged.

Recent decades would be how many? Because movies in the 70’s and 80’s had a lot more sex than they do now. Every single action movie had at least one sex scene between the male and female lead. Now it’s all UST.

Lots more cursing now, but nobody ever went deaf from hearing a few “cockfucking mothersuckers.”

but you were artful about it so it’s ok, RB

Is there some kind of Mr. Rogers meta-parody going on here?

Matt, you seem, um, nice. But I would like point out that the movies you mention as great classics are indeed great classics. While ‘wholesome’ they do not reflect the general quality of movies ‘back in the day” anymore than the brilliance of There Will Blood reflects the average quality of modern romantic “comedies”. Which are largely ‘wholesome’ too.

The thing is, there are alot of good movies out there. A few yes from our modern era. Even though I don’t approve of the profanity I think the Lethal Weapon series with Mel Gibson and Danny Glover was phenomenal. So yes I do like some movies from the modern age, however I prefer no profanity.

Thanks, RightBub (can I call you that?). Here’s me.

Also — some folks didn’t consider Indiana Jones that wholesome when it came out: PG-13 at 20

The Mummy and the Mummy Returns were also excellent films from the modern era. I’m quite the fan of ancient history so those kind of movies appeal to me. And I don’t remember any profanity or overt sexuality in those films either.

Oh, and the stuff I’d do to Dorothy was EPIC!!

Is this because or despite the fact poor Judy “Over the rainbow and headed for the event horizon” Garland wouldn’t have noticed a thing?

Oh goody!

We’re posting our pics?

Here’s Mine!

mikey

Ohhhhhhkaaaaaay. I get it. Boy, you really had us going there, “Matt”. Who is this really?

And in case you haven’t noticed, MM is doing something overtly sexual with you all’s heads.

Ewww, that’s squicky.

No, no, a thousand times no. Matt McMahon is a new arrival, like me. I just know it!

Matt, do you like gladiator movies?

I don’t get what you guys are refering to, I am a liberal just like you who is enjoying this blog so whats with the hostility?

I enjoyed the movie Gladiator with Kurt Russel, I was fairly historically accurate I’d say.

Trouble with the linky thingie.

Oh the hell with it.

http://www.box.net/shared/d503nbusk8

mikey

What do you mean, I’m not from around here? I’ve always lived here on Earth. By the way, can you tell me how to get to Earth Capital? I hope I can find some human food on the way, I’m starving.

All out of human food, but I’ve got some pasteurized process cheese food if your cheese is hungry…

mikey

I like movies with lots of profanity. The more swearing, the better, I say! Among my favorites: Pulp Fiction and Blue Velvet. Completely over-the-top, gratuitous filthy language.

I also liked Al Swearingen in Deadwood a whole lot. And Mr. Wu.

Thanks, RightBub (can I call you that?). Here’s me.

Sure Cap J, good pic.

Now we share phone numbers. Mine’s 1-800-848-5900. What’s yours?

Also, we have to stand on our heads.

oh hai Matt – I think u r a good parody troll

but you blew it with:

….Even though I don’t approve of the profanity I think the Lethal Weapon series with Mel Gibson and Danny Glover was phenomenal. So yes I do like some movies from the modern age, however I prefer no profanity.

why not something less obvious?

but please stick around u r waaaay better than GaryBot2.0

Beechwood 4-5789. I have an old phone. And if I’m not there, I’m probably at my girlfriend’s: 867-5309. You’ll never guess how we met!

There was that scene in The Wire where Bunk and McNulty only ever say “fuck” but manage to have an entire conversation. That was kickass.

P.S. Found it.

Quite obviously NSFW

Matt,

most varieties of rock music, except for the ones where the singer is some too-self-important-by-half wannabe satanist who sounds like Cookie monster being reamed with a splintery broom handle, are distilled sex, man.

[…] And let me take this opportunity as a white guy to forthrightly renounce and reject the band Creed, who have done more to damage the music reputation of white people than any band since […]

Nickleback?

Andre said,

Fuck!

Ugh, Creed. They’re sort of Christian rockers aren’t they? Double ugh!

Here’s a wholesome film clip for Matt:

Nickelback stinks. Nicklebag rocks.

Oooh, are we sharing? yours truly

A gift for MM:

‘,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’,’, and ‘.

You know why I don’t think Creed sucks? Because I grew up in the 70’s when AM radio played the worst, god-awful crap that was ever recorded. You think Creed is bad? Try living when the “Best of Bread” was a best selling album and “Take a Letter, Maria” was a #1 song! Music sucked so bad in the 70’s that we went to CBGBs to listen to groups that had no idea how to play their instruments because they were better than every hit song on the radio.

Tom. What about “The Night Chicago Died”?

You know. Paper Lace?

Now that was some fine rocknroll….

mikey

Whoa. Tom wins the “I Spent the 70’s in the Most Benighted Corner of the Planet” prize.

As someone who grew up listening to loud music played real loud, in stereo, allow me to assure you that like Creed sucks the same inflamed hairy goat testicle that Bread sucked. The difference is all in the technique.

Mikey – how about Muskrat Love by The Captain and Tennille?

We had joy we had fun we had Seasons in the Sun

Top that for suckitude.

We had joy we had fun we had Seasons in the Sun

I’m okay with that. Mopey songs tend to be funny and the non-stop repetition plus key-change at the end is like having someone keep saying “TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE! TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE!” You have to admire the courage to be that grating.

crap, somehow you guys made me think of this song:

Shannon

now I’m all verklempt.

Try living when the “Best of Bread” was a best selling album

Gladly! David Gates wrote some great songs (If, Aubrey, Everything I Own) and had a fantastic voice. Still a favorite album to put on after an opera or some Scandinavian death metal as a palette cleanser.

“Take a Letter, Maria” was a #1 song!

The Intertubes are your friend: that was from 1969, which unless you have a stash of Owsley chilling in a refrigerator somewhere that you dip in to, is not “the 70’s”. Good bass line, terrific brass arrangement and a terrific vocal by R.B. Greaves. Tex-Mex R&B anyone?

Fuck that “the 70’s sucked until punk came along” historical revisionism bullshit. The Stones put out their two best albums, Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street in the 70’s, The Who totally kicked ass live and had *their* two best albums, Who’s Next and Quadrophenia, Zeppelin was amazing, Sabbath ruled, Philly International was cranking out amazing orchestral R&B, Motown, especially Stevie Wonder, was still viable, the prog bands were still doing interesting stuff –I’d put King Crimson and ELP in 1974 against anyone, anytime– glam was producing stuff like Bowie and Mott the Hoople and Roxy Music etc etc.

Sure, by 1976, it was all Boston and 35 minute versions of Dazed and Confused and sure, punk was the kick in the ass rock music needed, but especially compared to the dire condition rock music finds itself in now, the early 70’s were fucking golden.

Hey, maybe the Stapp thread could be merged with the Nazis in the basement thread you discovered was active years later. Who knows they’re still probably holding meetings down there. At least I think it was Nazis. Maybe it was zombies.

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Matt McMahon said,

March 25, 2008 at 22:16

Actually I enjoy movies from the 1940s and 50s for that very reason. Profanity and sexual lewdness are what has caused the downfall of American cinema in recent decades. The Wizard of Oz from 1939 is a good clean classic American film before Hollywood started to go sour.

Wow. I was unaware that American cinema had fallen down. Except that alternative forms of entertainment, such as television and now the Internet, have moved into its marketspace. Oddly enough, though, films continue to get made.

As for your implication that “cleaner” movies are better: cinema has moved from reflecting the Establishment’s view of how things ought to be, to reflecting the society’s views of how things actually are. So the world is an unclean place and people don’t say nice things to each other. Do you honestly think squeaky-clean entertainment would actually sell these days? Maybe you can picture adults watching the Veggietales. I can’t.

That depends, s.h.toad–how stoned are the adults?

From the Billboard Top 5:

1970 – Carpenters, (They Long To Be) Close To You
B.J. Thomas, Raindrops Keep Fallin’ On My Head

1971 – Three Dog Night, Joy To The World
Osmonds, One Bad Apple

1972 – Gilbert O’Sullivan, Alone Again (Naturally)
Sammy Davis, Jr., Candy Man

1973 – Tony Orlando/Dawn, Tie A Yellow Ribbon ‘Round The Ole Oak Tree
Paul McCartney/Wings, My Love

1974 – Terry Jacks, Seasons In The Sun
Barbra Streisand, The Way We Were

1975 – Captain & Tennille, Love Will Keep Us Together
Glen Campbell, Rhinestone Cowboy

1976 – Wings, Silly Love Songs
Elton John/Kiki Dee, Don’t Go Breaking My Heart

And this was when a hit song was played about 10 times each hour on the radio. I drove to Syracuse University in 1975 and heard Frankie Valli sing “My Eyes Adored You” about 50 times. If I had a gun they would still be talking about the slaughter at SU.

And the song I was actually thinking of was “Brandy (You’re a Fine Girl)”, not “Take a Letter, Maria” but all the crap from those years melds into a single huge bowel movement.

And this from Wikipedia about “Paranoid” by Black Sabbath:

“The album broke into the top ten in the US in March 1971, and would go on to sell four million copies in the US alone, with virtually no radio airplay.”

Get it now? “…virtually no airplay”. That because the radio was too busy playing the Carpenters. And there was no XM, no iPods. You could tape an album and it sounded OK but taping a tape was a waste as it was unlistenable. It cost me more than a week’s salary in 1975 to put a cassette player and decent speakers in my car.

And the song I was actually thinking of was Brandy (You’re a Fine Girl)

I worked with a woman who was named after that song. This was at a Starbucks in the lilly-white suburbs, years ago when the dumb rich girls first started to pour in looking for frappuccino on the way to high school in the morning. Oh, thats a cute name! They would say, twirling their bleached hair. Is it after the singer?

No, said Brandy. It’s because I’m not quite as sexy as a vast body of salt water. That was also before the cameras, when we could still get away with making margaritas in the blender. She just kept mixing them earlier and earlier, Brandy did.

oh dear jeebus…

who brought up “Muskrat Love”?

True story: up until a couple of years ago, i used to live a half a block away from the most godawful soft-rock/easy listening AM station in Phoenix and somehow i was getting signal bleed from the radio station’s antenna into my land-line and my speaker wires, so roughly every 36 hours for just over 9 weeks, if i was home at the time i would hear that abortion of a song leaking softy into my house. I cannot tell you how much Southern Comfort it took to drown it out.

Listen, children, to a story that was written long ago of a kingdom on a mountain and the valley folk below. On the mountain was a treasure buried deep beneath a stone, and the valley people swore they’d have it for their very own. So the people of the valley sent a message up the hill asking for the buried treasure, tons of gold for which they’d kill. Came an answer from the kingdom: “With our brothers we will share all the secrets of our mountain, all the riches buried there.” Now the valley cried with anger; mount your horses, draw your sword, and they killed the mountain people, so they won their just reward. Now they stood beside the treasure on the mountain, dark and red, turned the stone and looked beneath it. “Peace on earth” was all it said.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of heaven, you can justify it in the end. There won’t be any trumpets blowin’ come the judgment day. And on the bloody morning after one tin soldier rides away.

Get it now? “…virtually no airplay”.

Yeah, except for FM rock radio playing War Pigs, Paranoid, Iron Man and Fairies Wear Boots all the time well in to the mid-70’s. [insert a dozen eye-rolling emoticons here]

You have heard of FM radio, right? If you’re listening to Frankie Valli 50 times on a trip, either a) your car didn’t get FM or b) you’re lame.

This focus on radio is laughable anyway, me and my music-obsessed buddies during that time hardly paid attention to the radio, Top 40 or FM. We would get the British music papers: Melody Maker, NME and Sounds and the US equivalents: Creem, Trouser Press and Circus and find out about bands that way. There were 2 or 3 really hip record stores we’d go to, the clerks knew us and our tastes and they’d turn us on to stuff. We were always a year ahead of everyone else in discovering bands, it was very competitive to see who could discover stuff first.

And do you really want to use the lame metric of what was hot on Top 40 to gauge the health of musical era? The era that you apparently seem to think was some Golden Age, the late 70’s, when you kicked The Man in the nuts merely by going to CBfuckingGB’s –fuck, is there anything lamer than punk nostalgia?– was also the era of disco. I can Google Billboard chart info just as well as you can can to make the utterly insipid point that Top 40 has blown, does blow and always will blow.

And there was no XM, no iPods.

Oh yeah, those things have been a boon to improving the quality of rock music! Oh, wait, they haven’t, all they’ve done is boil it down to a hit single/Top 40 mentality that has killed off creativity over the length of an album, it’s all about the 2 or 3 songs that can get played on the radio/put on a WB show/used in a car commerical. Led Zeppelin didn’t release singles in the UK for a good reason.

And the song I was actually thinking of was Brandy (You’re a Fine Girl)

Shorter Tom: like the wingnuts Sadly, No! relentlessly mock, I think facts suck.

somehow i was getting signal bleed from the radio station’s antenna into my land-line and my speaker wires,
Yeah, yeah. I read about that in The Divine Invasion. “The radio station down the road was sending me messages through my fillings!” Next thing you know, the house is full of giant aphids that no-one else can see.

Shorter Henry: I was cool because I discovered Air Supply and Kansas before anyone else.