Meating Of The Minds
Hugh Hewitt, reporting as always from the front lines of the terror war, recently interviewed presidential contender/plunger enthusiast Rudy Giuliani on his radio program. As part of our ongoing public service (to which we were sentenced for drunkenly teepeeing the Dominican Republic last St. Patrick’s Day), we are pleased to offer a translation of highlights from the interview into English, from the original Hootian in which they appeared on Hewitt’s website.
HH: I’m wondering, Mayor, is that going to be your strategy as a general election candidate, and if you’re elected as president, go right at the mainstream media for as long as they want to talk?
RG: Oh, absolutely. That’s what I did as mayor of New York. One press conference a day.
TRANSLATION: If Giuliani wins the presidency, we can look forward to all the exciting developments we have come to expect from his press conferences, including having reporters arrested, announcing that he will be divorcing his wife, and claiming that the Constitution gives him the right to declare a police state, but it does not give you the right to make dirty filthy art.
mama’s good to you
RG: But I think us, Republicans, have to over-communicate, because we have 70-80% of the who are against us. We’ve got to just over-communicate.
HH: Excellent idea. I agree with that.
TRANSLATION: If there’s one thing Republicans are good at, it’s over-communicating. Also, apparently, the surviving members of the Who will be voting Democrat next year.
HH: Do you think the Bush administration has, is to be faulted for their communication strategy on the war, Mayor?
RG: Well, you know, I admire his strategy on the war so much from the point of view of principle and courage, and sticking with it against (laughing) sometimes almost horrible attacks.
TRANSLATION: Horrible attacks are hilarious.
HH: Front page of the Washington Post, Mayor, waterboarding broke Abu Zubaydah, and he gave up information that stopped attacks. Your reaction?
RG: Well, I guess that answers the question as to not whether it’s torture or not, or whether it’s right or not, or whether it’s fair or not. But apparently, it works.
TRANSLATION: Torture – 1; Entire History of Civilized Society – 1,000,000: torture wins! USA! USA!
HH: On Sunday, a private citizen who had volunteered to provide security at the Colorado Springs New Life Church stopped a maniac who had already killed four and wounded more. What does that episode tell us about guns and law abiding citizens?
RG: It tells us that we should keep guns out of the hands of criminals, and that we should respect the rights of law abiding citizens to bear and carry arms. And if we can’t respect it, we should at least respect the Constitution who gives them that right.
TRANSLATION: The private citizen didn’t actually stop the maniac, and the gunman wasn’t a criminal, but aside from our two major talking points being incorrect, I’d say this is quite a well-informed discussion of the issues we’re having, wouldn’t you agree, sir?
HH: What about that, Mayor?
RG: I believe that what I was doing as mayor of New York City was to reduce crime in New York. I had a terrible problem. I had 1,800-2,000 murders a year. I reduced shootings by 74%, homicides by 67%.
TRANSLATION: Just because my statements are proven false on the front page of the New York Times doesn’t mean I’m going to stop making them.
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Mr. Pierce, if you could ask Mr. “On the Frontlines of Fighting Terra” Huge Hewiitt if his boobs are real, I will try to find the funds to contribute further to your boondoggle.
The amazing thing is that since the frontlines of the war on terror happen to be wherever Hugh Hewitt is at the time, if we end up in the same room, that means I MYSELF will be on the frontlines of the war on terror! Finally, a chance to serve my country, just by louching around in the hotel bar!
Jesus Haploid Christ, MLP! You know that cutsie line we use on the internets? The bit where you go “I was drinking a half-caf triple foam whatever, scrolled down to that pic of Rudy, and now you owe me a new monitor?” Well, I was drinking a perfectly nice Ozarka water, scrolled down to that pic of Rudy, and then my monitor fucking exploded in a shower of glass, blood, clumps of elephant dung, and the rotting hearts of several dozen chickens. Now you owe me a new psyche. Thanks a lot, fucko.
I’ve walked by the entire state building many times in my life (cause I lived just a few blocks down the street at b’way and 23rd).
But the closest I ever came to suffering a loss to the islamocommiefaggoliberalterrorists was when I was six years (or such, details are sketchy) old, and visiting from D.C. One of my shoes fell off, and ALMOST got blown off the observation tower. (I believe this near incident occurred back in the late 60’s, which would make my age more 8 or ninish.)
Just another reason to vote for Julie Annie, to be sure.
“to which we were sentenced for drunkenly teepeeing the Dominican Republic last St. Patrick’s Day),”
Wow. The WHOLE island? Damn, that’s commitment.
“RG: But I think us, Republicans, have to over-communicate, because we have 70-80% of the who are against us. We’ve got to just over-communicate.”
Doesn’t that just translate into A: GOD, people are fucking stupid, B: The problem is that our propaganda isn’t compelling enough.
“RG: Well, I guess that answers the question as to not whether it’s torture or not, or whether it’s right or not, or whether it’s fair or not. But apparently, it works.”
No, it doesn’t. No it doesn’t. No, it doesn’t. And no, it doesn’t.
“And if we can’t respect it, we should at least respect the Constitution who gives them that right.”
Huh?
Also, wasn’t this guy not a criminal until he got guns and became one?
Sidenote: Why did the church feel the need to hire security?
But, you know, really? I’m almost tempted to vote Giuliani, simply because ibet he’ll have on the most FABULOUS Inauguration gown.
Man, that’s some incoherent boosh-whah. And you say this dipstick might be our next president? “We should respect the Constitution who gives them the right”? You’d think after seven years of the Little King the idea of the potential leader of the friggin’ free world being unable to string together a group of words that tortured neither grammar nor logic wouldn’t be as disconcerting as it is. Same thing with Huckabee and evolution, that shouldn’t be as goddamn scary as it is. But I really think the president of the United Damn States, for cryin’ out loud, should be smarter than me. I don’t think that’s asking much.
About the picture…I think Rudy’s being down with the drag thing is quite possibly the only stance among the GOP candidates I find either respectable or believable (I don’t buy Ron Paul’s bullshit, for one). However, you’d a thunk someone woulda told him that he made an ugly drag queen. I mean, damn, son.
RG: But I think us, Republicans, have to over-communicate, because we have 70-80% of the who are against us. We’ve got to just over-communicate.
If they really over-communicate, I bet they could get 99% against them. Being quiet about their ideas hasn’t been their problem.
So how’s that War of Ideas at Home that’s so much more important than picking up a goddam rifle coming for you guys, eh, Hugh?
Damn Rudi in drag is hot as hell. Them smackers I bet could suck the chrome off a 57′ Chevy. If he had Hewitt’s nipple power we’d have our first centerfold transvestite Commander In Chief. Gives Family Values a whole other meaning.
The oddest bit is definitely that line about the Post story answering whether or not waterboarding is torture. How, exactly, does “breaking” a guy with waterboarding show that waterboarding is not torture? That doesn’t begin to make sense.
Sidenote: Why did the church feel the need to hire security?
From what I understand, this particular person volunteered for that particular day because there had already been a shooting that day. I don’t know if there was any prior knowledge that something might go down or if the woman in question just offered her services because the news about the prior shooting had gotten around.
She’s an off-duty security guard and member of the church, and she had a permit for the gun she used. She wasn’t just some yay-hoo with a Glock, in other words. Last story I read is that the guy made a whole lot of threats prior to the shootings. He quotes Eric Harris heavily in one of his missives. The guy went off his nut, nobody bothered to pay attention, some people died and one lady did something I don’t relish but was probably the only thing that could be done at the time. How we got from there to here, though, is the problem, I think.
And I just heard about another shooting in Vegas. Is it my imagination, or have a whole lot of Americans have been excercising their Second Amendment rights at the neighbors lately? Has there been an upswing or am I just getting myself worked up?
ok, i realize people usually fixate on the (.)(.) part of hewitt’s frame, but what on earth is going on with his shorts? Is that a wedgie?
One shouldn’t be malicious, but sometimes it’s enjoyable being so. From Webster’s Third New International Dictionary:
MALKIN… 1a: a pole with a bundle of rags at the end used for cleaning out a baker’s oven; b: a ragged effigy: SCARECROW. 2a: an untidy woman: SLATTERN; b: (1) CAT (2) HARE.
(cats and hares are of course associated with witches: ‘I come, Graymalkin’ (Macbeth))
Rudy Giuliani, because when you’re good to mama, mama’s good to you
And if you pick a fight with Yo Mama, Yo Mama’s going to pick on you.
At what point is someone going to photoshop tassles onto Hugh Blewitt’s manmaries, a la Dafydd ab Taonlygheyintavillage’s sammich?
I think he’s saying that yes, it is torture, and that it’s not right and that it’s not fair. Because then he says “But apparently, it works*.” To me that reads “You’re damn right it’s torture, and you can bet your ass that if you elect me you’ll see way more of it”. Mister Leonard Price doesn’t call him a “plunger enthusiast” for nothing.
* I guess “works” refers to how you can get pretty much anyone to confess to nearly anything using it.
Matt T. said,
“Has there been an upswing or am I just getting myself worked up?”
Thanks for the info.
It could be like the same thing that happened with child abductions a few years back: there wasn’t a sudden rash or increase in them, the media just started taking note for a few months.
Lesley said,
ok, i realize people usually fixate on the (.)(.) part of hewitt’s frame, but what on earth is going on with his shorts? Is that a wedgie?
Yes and no.
Chicks don’t usually have this problem, as they tend to wear tighter/smaller shorts while running, but when you wear loose fitting shorts, and pump your legs in a wide motion for prolonged periods of time, the fabric will take the path of least resistance (up) and get stuck there to to moisture and compression.
Ever wear a one piece bathing suit? It’s kinda like that.
It sucks.
But I really think the president of the United Damn States, for cryin’ out loud, should be smarter than me.
Heck, I’d settle for a President who was at least as smart as my dog — and he ain’t an unusually smart little dog, either. But it took him just one incident per cat to figure out that there is the Cat Who Runs Away (amusing), the Cat Who Spikes Dog Noses (to be avoided), and the Cat Who Plays Along, If She’s Got Nothing Better Going On (Demon Kishkan). Apparently Dubya can’t count that high, or else his years as an (out-of-the-closet) drunk & coke addict ate holes in his long-term memory capacity, because he can’t figure out the difference between countries America can intimidate, countries America is better off not trying to intimidate, and countries that America could actually have a working relationship with, allowing for the fact that certain national leaders (cough*Putin*cough) are even more untrustworthy than a bored Maine Coon cat.
So. Much. Fail.
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with him?
Anne, if not as smart, at least as likeable. You wouldn’t hear anyone exclaim of George: “Gooooood doggie, good good dog!”
I’m looking forward to the day when Hugh’s dream boy, Mitt gets fucked over, either in the primaries, or the real thing. His love for the Mittster is getting positively paranoid at this point, and when the tosspot does go down in flames, old Hugh is going to lose it big time. We are going to see the mother of all strops and I’m getting the extra large popcorn out for that one…..
Lesley, I’m sure Dick Cheney says that at least a couple of times a week.
Absolution from a single source.
Second hand tale of what happened.
Clever as hell really, come out say, “Torture is wrong BUT it works!!!”
I wonder if Kiriakou could also tell us how many other revelations Zubayada had that were meaningless? How many false leads and garbage also had to be chased down?
Now remember, none of Zubayda’s information lead directly to to the raid. He didn’t do anything more than ‘”mention people who we weren’t familiar with”.
He pointed out a list of “..who we should be thinking about, who we should be looking at..”
Hmmm, “Torture will get information from people therefore is must be used or people will die!”
Expediency at the cost of morality.
Hmmm, “Burning down the school will get the children out of there.”
I’m late figuring this out. I clicked on the link and read about Hewitt interrupting a guy IN IRAQ to tell him that he was on the front lines as well, and later saying, “Mr. Ware has special knoweldge of the precincts around Iraq, but not of the jihadist threat, and he cannot trump critics of his coverage by arguing he’s in harm’s way.”
He really and truly said this. I mean, I know we make fun of cats like Ace and those doofs at Gates of Vienna for saying this kind of nonsense, but I always figured (or hoped) that they were a tiny, tiny fringe group of the right-wing – yeah, they get some devoted readers, but so do people who write Doctor Who slash fiction. But Hewitt’s not on the fringe, he’s a mainstream Republican writer (he’s interviewing presidential candidates! He had a show on PBS, fer chrissake!), and he’s telling guys in Iraq that he’s on the front lines, too.
Just put me down as the eleventy-zillionth commenter whose mind is blown with anger and disappointment and disgust.
Wait a minute – 50% of the Who are dead.
tjgh: Amusing definitions indeed for “Malkin.” You may want to remind yourself, though, that that’s really her husband’s last name.
MALKIN… 1a: a pole with a bundle of rags at the end used for cleaning out a baker’s oven; b: a ragged effigy: SCARECROW. 2a: an untidy woman: SLATTERN; b: (1) CAT (2) HARE.
Oh dear. Not quite the same without the sexism, is it? Perhaps you could stick to her politics rather than her gender?
True enough. Which means that there are a number of ways we can interpret Rudy’s “80% of the Who are against us” comment:
1. Even in death, 3 of the 4 original members of the Who are Democrats.
2. All of the Who were once Democrats, but John Entwhistle defected to the G.O.P. after his death hoping to get an upper-class tax cut for the recently deceased.
3. Rudy means that half the living members of the Who are against him, but he’s really bad at math and thinks that 1 out of 2 = 80%.
I’m not sure why he’s so worried, since the Who are British citizens and can’t vote in our elections. He should be much more concerned with what percentage of Aerosmith is against him.
For a moment, I thought Mr. 9-11 was talking about the actual attacks being suffered by Iraqi civilians, Iraqi police and politicians, and US military personnel on the actual front line…
…and then I realized that he was, in fact, talking about the nasty words directed against the guy who put all those other people directly in the line of fire.
To paraphrase a comment from a few days ago, is there anyone running for the Republican presidential nomination that isn’t a goddamn wankstain?
To paraphrase a comment from a few days ago, is there anyone running for the Republican presidential nomination that isn’t a goddamn wankstain?
No.
The fact is, Rudy will be an awesome president, because he is for moral values amd does not tolerate liberal BS in time of war. Another fact: Bush is an awesome president, but you liberals are afflicted with BDS and he will never be any good unless he surrenders to terror in your book. Another fact, is the dems OKed torture back in 2002, and we got information, so get off your high horse. It works.
Real believer or some loser getting off on anonymity go fuck yourself.
And what about the ferrets? Now that’s some overcommunication.
Hey, is anyone here willing to devote a photoshop to a good cause? It won’t involve Malkin, but still is worthy of being done IMHO. Actually, it is rather simple and just involves the logos of two wingnut sites, but frequently the simple ones are the ones I mess up the most. It’ll be good, and for a mockery site, and hopefully everyone will benefit from our fits of mockery and winger chronicling.
But I think us, Republicans, have to over-communicate, because we have 70-80% of the who are against us.
Is he actually admitting that the vast majority of Americans are against what he stands for, so he needs a huge noise machine to drown them out?
(god, I loathe Hugh Hewitt)
Does a Marilyn Monroe wig count as a party hat?
In fairness to Rudy (!?), Pete really is at least 80% of The Who. If Roger is for Rudy and Pete is not, then it would be fair to say that 80$ of The Who is against him.
“Pete really is at least 80% of The Who”
Pfft. Without Keith Moon, the Who is just REM on steroids, but with a less self-absorbed singer.
Of course the (im)morality of torture has nothing to do with its effectiveness.
I love how HH called Ghoolie “Mayor.” I’m also surprised he could articulate questions when Rudi’s dick was tickling his uvula. That might explain why RG was so articulate.
Matt T – Multiple shootings.
You’re noticing a Copy Cat effect. One guy shoots up a place and another guy who’s been toying with the idea takes it as a cue that the time is right. It’s like suicides and car accidents caused by reckless driving.
OK, 80% of the SURVIVING The Who.
Er, which Keith didn’t. Survive The Who that is.
A Coloradoan here, near the crazy-town ground zero of late. Apparently the Xtian-shooter was a homeschooled Xtian from an extremely Xtian home who was pissed at the Xtian organization that he shot up because they’d rejected him a year or so ago. They must have realized that he wasn’t the “spreading Xtian love all over the world” type. He’d been sending hate mail (how un-Xtian!) for quite awhile, so once the first place was targeted, the second got a little nervous , though apparently not nervous enough to call the cops.
I was snoozing on the couch Sunday, book over my nose, when the sotto voce teevee started in with breathless live coverage of the second shooting. After 5 rounds of the same video loop and breathless news wankism with a huge sidedish of SWAT-team beatification, I finally found the remote and turned it off, but only after the news anchor decided it was prudent to mention that the video of the ambulance driving away was a loop, not 5 different times that the ambulance actually, you know, drove away. The anxious suckage of SWAT dick was disgusting, and as usual the shooter offed himself, the SWAT guys just got another hero story that they might be able to exchange for some groupie’s services in the right (meaning wrong) kind of bar.
I hate worship of authoritarianism; can you tell?
…5 rounds of the same video loop and breathless news wankism with a huge sidedish of SWAT-team beatification…
And with this you’ve summarized why I haven’t voluntarily watched TV news in over 15 years. I’m in awe.
I hate worship of authoritarianism; can you tell?
Right there with you.
I’m disappointed to see a post on Hugh Hewitt that does not refer to him as a White House puke.
When something is served up on a silver platter, sometimes it’s best to just to take it, as is, and say “thanks.”
Wait a minute – 50% of the Who are dead.
And 100% of the Who (living, dead, or undead) are British citizens ineligible to vote in the US. Not that being dead or non-citizens necessarily precludes one from voting in any election.
Pfft. Without Keith Moon, the Who is just REM on steroids, but with a less self-absorbed singer.
Having seen “Tommy” a few too many times, I’m not so sure about that.
The thing is, plenty of people will agree that if waterboarding works, it can’t be torture, because liebruls have so often said that torture doesn’t work.