3/5ths or 60% seems a bit too generous, wait, that’s what we get to claim?

I’ll admit up front that I paid very little attention to the trial of Trayvon
Martin
George Zimmerman. The bits and pieces that did fall into the bit bucket
confirmed for me the correctness of this strategy. Having read a raft of commentary from
the legal perspective of the particular reading of the Floridian implementation of the
“Stand your ground” “law” last summer, led me to the conclusion that “shoot a Nigger and
claim self defense” had become the law of that land. There are times when discretion is
the better part of valor when it comes in service to the maintenance of a semblance of
sanity.

When the story initially broke, I thought that something smelled funky in Denmark, but
felt inclined to wait before waltzing to a conclusion, though when initial details emerged:
I.E. the recording of the conversation with the police dispatcher, I knew that I had witnessed
my first lynching. When I saw a picture of a group of Zimmies including a guy (white) wearing
a hoodie holding on to a pack of skittles and some tea; when I read that Zimmerman had
crowd-sourced nearly a hundred thousand dollars through a paypal account, I became certain
that I had witnessed an actual “high tech lynching.”

Young Black men have always been acceptable targets for murder most foul. Clarence Thomas
himself was completely aware of this fact when he cynically employed the phrase “high tech
lynching” as his defense agains the allegations of Anita Hill during his confirmation
hearings.

I love hyperbole. It is my stock in trade and in general I appreciate its employment, but
Thomas tried to gut-fuck that pooch to death in what might constitute the first salvo in
the Republican war on shame or on anything else that might fall within the realm of the
genteel.

They have been successful. While it should be hyperbole to state that Trayvon
Martin was lynched, it is not. There was no rope involved, but that matters not.
There were no post-cards of crowds bearing witness, but that matters not. There was not even
a white girl/woman involved, but that matters not. What matters, and makes this a high tech
lynching is the fact that armed with the indesputible fact that Zimmerman sought out and
shot an unarmed teenager, millions of people surged forth in support of the man that tied
the rope around Trayvon’s neck. And now millions celebrate Zimmerman’s release…There is
your lynch mob.

I have been trying to search for a small bit of funny in this affair and have failed, miserably.

 

Comments: 564

 
 
 

First. Also POOP and

 
 

Fyautocorrect. FURTS and I fucking mean it. Also IT’S ABOUT FUCKING TIME UNE!

 
 

The trial had nothing to do with “Stand Your Ground.” It was a straight self-defense case based on the defense theory that Martin attacked Zimmerman, and the prosecution offered no evidence to refute it. I realize that this statement is not going to make me any new friends, but those are the facts on the ground.

 
 

I wonder if Skittles is going to make a strange fruit flavored candy.

 
 

The funny is in how tortured are the explanations for his innocence. Well, it’s sort of funny. If you squint.

OK, you’re right – there’s no funny in it anywhere.

 
 

The trial had nothing to do with “Stand Your Ground.” It was a straight self-defense case based on the defense theory that Martin attacked Zimmerman, and the prosecution offered no evidence to refute it. I realize that this statement is not going to make me any new friends, but those are the facts on the ground.

The initial investigation, or lack thereof, was compromised by “stand your ground” laws. Zimmerman killed a kid and was allowed to walk out of the police station that same night. No drug test, no impounding of his clothes as evidence. “Stand your ground”, while not invoked by the defense, has a lot to do with this case.

 
 

The trial had nothing to do with “Stand Your Ground.” It was a straight self-defense case based on the defense theory that Martin attacked Zimmerman, and the prosecution offered no evidence to refute it. I realize that this statement is not going to make me any new friends, but those are the facts on the ground.

then explain this from balloon juice for me:

The same goes for “Stand Your Ground,” which Saletan falsely says wasn’t invoked in the case. The juror instructions included this:

If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

The jury instructions in Florida pre-SYG did not contain that clause, and there is no doubt that the inclusion of the SYG principle affected the outcome of the Zimmerman trial. The juror who appeared on Anderson Cooper’s show last night specifically mentioned SYG twice and alluded to its role in finding Zimmerman not guilty:

Juror B37 mentioned Stand Your Ground a second time in saying that the jury ultimately made its not-guilty verdict Saturday night based on the evidence and “because of the heat of the moment and the Stand Your Ground.”

 
BrotherFlounder
 

@bbkf – But those are facts, and clearly facts should never be used to get in the way of a good story. And surely people would never misrepresent what’s in Florida law, just because it’s not called “Stand Your Ground.” Right?

 
 

That pretty much sums it up.

I cynically wonder if Zimmerman screamed like he did so as to set up his alibi. TBogg’s description of it as a ‘clean state-sanctioned kill’ is spot-on. The law is working as intended.

 
 

Is it reasonable to believe that “no duty to retreat” helps to justify homicidal stalking?

 
 

And yes, the Stand Your Ground part comes in the jury instructions – it became *part* of the self-defense law in Florida. There is no separate ‘Stand Your Ground’ plea.

 
 

Apologies for the lack of links, and like I said DJ, the lack of attention paid to the actual trial, but whether or not SYG law was or was not invoked during the trial by either parties, it remains a part of the Jim Crow related Privilege Protection Program Activities that have been the seeming sole purpose of the Roberts Court.

Can’t wait for the ‘festation’….

 
 

The problem is obviously genetic too. Robert Zimmerman Jr. complained that “now people are targeting George for death for no reason” without a scintilla of self-awareness.

 
 

If Zimmerman was justified in using lethal force, that necessarily means that Trayvon didn’t sing force enough to kill (or seriously wound) Zimmerman. Had Trayvon applied that force via a gun, he would have been standing his ground and thus not culpable under aFlorida law. Do I foresee every black kid in Florida packing heat?

Yeah, of course it wouldn’t _actually_ work that way because BLAH but damn ifFlorida didnt invite some unintended consequences.

 
 

Except I can think of no lynchings that were accomplished by a single person and later cheered by passing racists. That has always the threat of the lynch mob: That for whatever reason you will be set upon and murdered by a group of people who were certain there would be no retribution afterwards.

 
 

I wonder if Skittles is going to make a strange fruit flavored candy.

See, that’s very clever, but yeah, the song and circumstances make for no funny.

 
 

Crap. Twas me.

 
 

Today is the first anniversary of the Danzig Street shooting. It’s pretty minor compared to the stuff that happens elsewhere, but it was just a few miles from my house. Not really related other than the whole runaway gun culture thing.

 
 

I wonder if Skittles is going to make a strange fruit flavored candy.

See, that’s very clever, but yeah, the song and circumstances make for no funny.

welp, i still don’t get it, but now i have elo’s ‘strange magic’ as an earworm so damn you both to hell…

 
 

Marvin, “high-tech” is the operational situation. Gun powder V Manilla, Crowd-sourcing online V Town square, Paypal V Postcards….

 
 

bbkf — Youtube clip is acting funny, so I won’t send you to it, but you should hear Billie Holiday sing a song called “Strange Fruit.” That’s the reference.

 
 

“I wonder if Skittles is going to make a strange fruit flavored candy.”

This isn’t fair. You unequivocally, and crushingly win the thread (“It’s only words, and words are all I have, to win this thread today’- Tigris)
with the fourth comment? Oh well, I guess if you’ve got it, flout it.

 
 

Sadly, both the Wah!Poo! and my local paper have online “do you agree with the Zimmerman verdict” polls, and for both the “agrees” are winning handily.

 
 

Gun powder V Manilla, Crowd-sourcing online V Town square, Paypal V Postcards….

Huh?

 
 

Ah yes, Juror B37 who didn’t find the friend to be credible (because the girl wasn’t very smart) but was “very influenced” by the cop’s testimony that he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth, because “he deals with that stuff all the time.” And she ignored the judge’s instructions to forget that bit.

 
 

The only tiny (and I mean fucking tiny) bit of good that I have seen out of this is that a whole bunch of people we all figured were racist fuckwits have been quite happy to confirm that fact.

Also: all that talk of robots/mech/automatons/whateverthefuck and not a single Glenn Reynolds style sexy robot link? You people are slipping.

 
 

Re: sexy robot links

Well there was this.

 
 

“The only tiny (and I mean fucking tiny) bit of good that I have seen out of this is that a whole bunch of people we all figured were racist fuckwits have been quite happy to confirm that fact.”

And that tiny bit of good is far outweighed by the fucking media which has decided that racist fuckwitism, to the point of perverting the legal process, is just part of the rich tapestry of American diversity. After all, racist fuckwits buy stuff, too.

 
 

the song and circumstances make for no funny.

Disagree. Sometimes you gotta laugh to keep from screaming. In fact, that’s half the reason I hang around here.

 
 

Wasn’t B37 the one who was and then wasn’t going to write a book?

 
 

Sadly, both the Wah!Poo! and my local paper have online “do you agree with the Zimmerman verdict” polls, and for both the “agrees” are winning handily.

ok, so today at my kiwanis* meeting, i was sitting with an older gentleman whom i know quite well being as he has directed me in many plays and was the recipient of my very first stage kiss (eck) and the woman who accompanies us each week on piano. she asked if either of us had watched any of the travesty martin** trial…i said, ‘nope…avoided it like the plague’ and the old dude also affirmed he didn’t really watch it…BUT, he felt obliged to inform us that it was the proper verdict and that trayvon was not the sweet-natured child presented in the media, but rather a very scary, mean looking young man…she and i both said, well, we didn’t think he looked too scary in any of the pics we had seen and anyway, we had both seen scary/nice pics of zimmerman, too…nature of the beast and all that…

old dude was starting to get a bit steamed so, nice old lady changed the topic…when he left our table for a moment, we looked at each other and she goes, ‘guess we’re supposed to be wrong, huh?’

anyhow, i was rather surprised at all of this…although old dude is a baptist who doesn’t drink, dance or play cards and i don’t entirely trust him as a human based on that, i was mightily surprised at her take on it…but she is a former nun who ran off with a former priest and they live happily ever after, so i guess i shouldn’t be too surprised at her coolness factor…

**wherein i thought of mooser because we sang ‘by the light of the silvery moon’ and ‘five foot two’ both extremely quaint and full of fun wordage…

and yes, i am a dork…

*yes, this is how i think of it every time…

 
 

and not only am i full of tagfail, i also cannot assemble astericks…i trust you all can put them in their rightful places…

 
 

Ooops. Trollbot, c’est moi.

EXTERMINATE!1!!

 
 

Ah yes, Juror B37 who didn’t find the friend to be credible (because the girl wasn’t very smart) but was “very influenced” by the cop’s testimony that he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth, because “he deals with that stuff all the time.” And she ignored the judge’s instructions to forget that bit.

i listened to her on teh public raydio today and wanted to smack her senseless…and yes, she angered me that much that i did want to cause bodily harm, so shoot me…but then i realized that she was already senseless…

Wasn’t B37 the one who was and then wasn’t going to write a book?

had a book deal which was then withdrawn following public hue and cry…

 
 

You people are slipping

right? i am hoping that someday soon we will get our schpadoinkle back…and by we, i mean those sadlies who arctually funneh and smurt…

 
 

I kinda agree that SYG isn’t the fundamental problem. The actual issue is that any dumbfuck loser with a police fetish can wander around with concealed carry. The actual issue is that guns are so easy to get and are glorified as the neatest thing of all time ever.

Clearly if Zimmerman hadn’t had a gun, everybody would be better off. Even including George Fucking Zimmerman himself.

 
 

Since there’s no funny here, have some food pr0n.

Orzo salad. Orzo cooked in insanely good roasted chicken stock (diluted). Mint and basil, chiffonade. Diced preserved lemon peel. Lemon juice. Olive oil – LOTS of your best extra virginal. Halved heritage cherry tomatoes. Serve at room temp. Salt and pepper, of course.

‘Twere delicious last evening, served with grilled chicken thighs and a green salad. It’s just as delcious now. As is the leftover grilled chicken.

 
 

I kinda agree that SYG isn’t the fundamental problem. The actual issue is that any dumbfuck loser with a police fetish can wander around with concealed carry. The actual issue is that guns are so easy to get and are glorified as the neatest thing of all time ever.

i will go with you on that one…

Clearly if Zimmerman hadn’t had a gun, everybody would be better off. Even including George Fucking Zimmerman himself

you have not been paying attention to ‘murika too well…if you had, you would clearly know that if zimmerman wouldn’t have had a gun, his rights, civil liberties and even his penis would have been severely curtailed…which is truly the most heinous thing that could happen here in ‘murika…it doesn’t matter that trayvon had the right to be where and who he was, that someone somewhere may not have access to a gun to blow someone’s shit away is the real tragedy…

 
 

‘five foot two’

“Five foot two, eyes of blue,
oh, what those five feet could do:
has anybody seen my gal?

Turned-up nose, turned-down hose
Flapper? Yes sir, one of those
Has anybody seen my gal?

Well, if you run into a five-foot-two
covered with fur,
Diamond rings, all those things,
Bet your life it isn’t her!

But could she love, could she coo!
Cootchie-cootchie-cootchie coo!
Has anybody seen my gal”

Look it’s not “Strange Fruit” but it’s cheerful.

 
 

Schumer said he hopes the agreement will usher in a new era of “comity” in the Senate.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And why the scare quotes?

 
 

Love orzo, eat it a lot. With squash which are little more than plant-fetuses. That roasted chicken stock sounds great!

 
 

The trial had nothing to do with “Stand Your Ground.” It was a straight self-defense case based on the defense theory that Martin attacked Zimmerman, and the prosecution offered no evidence to refute it. I realize that this statement is not going to make me any new friends, but those are the facts on the ground.

I’ve seen this statement, with only minor variation, across multiple liberal blogs. Enough to make me think it’s a coordinated effort.

 
 

Since there’s no funny here, have some food pr0n.

dammit…you have no idea how much i wish you t’warnt teh ghey…and halfway across the country…i’m sure our co-habitation would be just peachy otherwise…

 
 

I’m not sure what’s meant by SYG not being the fundamental problem, but as written, and under the circumstances of it’s implementation, it’s bloody awful.

Since I spent some time on this comment late in the previous thread, and this thread is actually about Zimmerman killing Trayvon:

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/38958.html#comment-1331512

 
 

Griffindors lay siege to Voldemort’s lair.

i adore their willingness to protest and all, but ffs, couldn’t they have made sure the damn gov was actually going to be there first?

 
 

don’t look now, but…omebodysay isay tillsay tinkingsay upay eviouspray readthay…

 
 

I’ve seen this statement, with only minor variation, across multiple liberal blogs. Enough to make me think it’s a coordinated effort.

On the part of liberals, I think it’s an honest mistake — they don’t want to seem counterfactual, and they have not heard the refutation, which isn’t something one can arrive at through pure logic and a knowledge of news stories. It’s along these lines:

“And yes, the Stand Your Ground part comes in the jury instructions – it became *part* of the self-defense law in Florida. There is no separate ‘Stand Your Ground’ plea.”–LittlePig, above.

This was the explanation I saw (can’t remember where), and it made sense as presented — but I didn’t hear this until quite recently, which makes sense, because there would have been little talk of the jury instructions until last week, then a delay before I came up to speed.

 
 

Eight foot two, solid blue
Five transistors in each shoe
Has anybody seen my gal?

How I miss all the bliss
Of her sweet hydraulic kiss
Has anybody seen my gal?

She does the cutest tricks
With her six stereo ears
When she walks by, spacemen cry
‘Specially when she shifts her gears

Lovely shape, custom built
Squeeze her wrong and she says, “Tilt”
Has anybody seen my gal?

 
 

well, miss chattypants here is heading out…time to go ply the hapless with alcohol and other refreshing beverages…

 
 

Isn’t Walker headed to Colorado to share a stage with Chris Christie? To talk about what’s working and what isn’t in state govt.? Meaning, in wingnut world, that Walker will be holding forth (as he often does) about how to create jobs, something him and his party’s state govt. has shown no aptitude for?

 
Joe (of the garage)
 

Fick mich, du miserabler hurensohn
Fick mich, du miserabler hurensohn
Streck ihn aus
Streck aus deinen heifien gelockten.
Streck ihn aus
Streck aus deinen’ heinen gelockten
Streck ihn aus
Streck aus deinen heiften gelockten schwanz
Ah-ee-ahee-ahhhhh!
Mach es sehr schnell
Rein und raus
Magisches Schwein
Mach es sehr schnell
Rein und raus
Magisches Schwein
Bis es spritzt, spritzt, spritzt Feuer!
Bis es spritzt, spritzt, spritzt Feuer!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!

 
 

Ah yes, Juror B37 who didn’t find the friend to be credible (because the girl wasn’t very smart) but was “very influenced” by the cop’s testimony that he thought Zimmerman was telling the truth, because “he deals with that stuff all the time.” And she ignored the judge’s instructions to forget that bit.

Wasn’t she disgusting? If she’d said that shit after a conviction they’d have declared a mistrial.

As for Stand you Ground vs easy access to guns and concealed carry, I think they’re both huge problems and both contributed to this huge injustice. The whole is more fucked up than the sum of its parts.

 
 

Well there was this.

Ah, yes, that particular Nexus. I have the older Nexus 3 myself, not nearly as sexy.

 
 

I realize that this statement is not going to make me any new friends

Well, not HERE. I’m sure you’ll be the toast of ChimpOut.com, though, so I guess it’s all a matter of priorities.

 
 

I’m not sure what’s meant by SYG not being the fundamental problem, but as written, and under the circumstances of it’s implementation, it’s bloody awful.

I totally agree that SYG is a terrible terrible law. It’s like legislators have a cartoon view of reality where there is always a clear good guy and a clear bad guy and the good guy always wins with his cold steel and then gets the girl.

But, IMO, the tragedy isn’t that Zimmerman walks free. The tragedy is that Trayvon’s dead, and his family forced to undergo their mourning while slack jawed gawkers and sociopathic wingnuts heaped insult on top of their loss. Plus the whole murder in your back lane followed by months of media camp out can wear on any community.

Why is it that at least fucking hand guns aren’t banned?

 
 

Why is it that at least fucking hand guns aren’t banned?

Good luck with that one. In a very short time we’ve gone from very limited gun control to – everybody gets a concealed handgun and the legal right to use it any time someone says “boo!”

 
 

Ah, yes, that particular Nexus. I have the older Nexus 3 myself, not nearly as sexy.

Have you seen the Alfine 11? 400% gear range. Specialized matches it with hydraulic disc brakes and a belt drive on the Source Eleven. Quiet enough to hear people’s heads turn.

 
 

If there weren’t handguns George Zimmerman would have been beaten up and the resulting scandal and trial would have occupied months if not years.

 
 

I kinda agree that SYG isn’t the fundamental problem. The actual issue is that any dumbfuck loser with a police fetish can wander around with concealed carry. The actual issue is that guns are so easy to get and are glorified as the neatest thing of all time ever.

Around here, we have a trial going on. One guy, Christopher Deedy, shot another guy, Kollin Elderts, in the chest, killing him. Deedy’s claiming self defense, saying he was afraid Elderts was going to take his (Deedy’s) gun away and shoot him with it. They were both drunk (Deedy says nuh uh, he wasn’t drunk, but he refused to be tested, and witnesses say he was swaying, glassy-eyed, slurring his words, and reeking of alcohol. I think the technical term for that condition is “drunk.”), and there was a shoving match. It was, apparently, a continuation of an earlier disagreement, and Deedy shot Elderts. This is all on video, as it took place in a McDonald’s. It being 3 am, it was very brightly lit. It being Waikiki, it was not empty.

The kicker for me is that Deedy is/was a US State Department “special agent.” This means, I hope, that he was evaluated and trained, and he still chose to go out drinking with his gun! Then he used it to kill someone. If he was required to keep his gun with him off-duty (he was here to provide security for APEC), he had no business going drinking. Really bad judgement, to put it mildly, and I hope he’s lost his job over it. Or at least been transferred into a position in which he is forbidden to be armed. Ever.

 
 

If there weren’t handguns George Zimmerman would have been beaten up and the resulting scandal and trial would have occupied months if not years.

Nah. If there weren’t handguns, George Zimmerman would have stayed in his fucking car, like the cops told him to.

 
 

I have a hard time believing that was a real Substance.

 
 

Now you mention it, I don’t think it was real Substance, either. My response stands, though.

 
 

Have you seen the Alfine 11? 400% gear range. Specialized matches it with hydraulic disc brakes and a belt drive on the Source Eleven. Quiet enough to hear people’s heads turn.

No, I hadn’t. Nice looking setup, if a bit heavy. I have the Nexus 3-speed on my custom-built aluminum frame beach cruiser, and it works quite well and is ridiculously reliable.

For actual commuting I built a sweet mid-90’s US-made steel mountain-bike frame into a custom commuter, and included a disc in the front on that. Being able to stop in the wet Oregon winters is a big plus. I stuck with a standard 24-speed Deore XT drivetrain on that, since I had it already. It’s plenty quiet when it’s properly maintained, and I have to have a bell anyway for alerting the latte-drinking, ipod-listening campus shamblers that I’m approaching.

 
 

had a book deal which was then withdrawn following public hue and cry…

Really? Too soon? I’m guessing she withdrew it to protect her anonymity. She is, after all, a HOR.

 
 

Speaking of emasculation, it’s now officially part of court records that Zimmerman’s MMA instructor rates his fighting skills as pathetic. Seriously, even by the standard of macho dudes comparing penii, Zimmerman would still have been better off with no gun.

 
 

Also, too: I believe there was a brief discussion of 3D printing amongst the trollfestation in the last couple of threads. Fortuitous timing, as NASA just tested a 3D-printed rocket fuel injector.

I would absolutely love to be able to 3D print my own custom car and motorcycle bits, as well as actually being able to make random little parts to fix stuff in general. I’m hoping that is a realistic thing in my lifetime, we’ll see.

 
 

I promise you that any cockbite pussy that packs a gun around and thinks he’s a citizen soldier or cop is a pathetic fighter. You have to be a SERIOUS cunt to choose a gunfight over a fistfight. I’m no fighting master or anything, but I’ll take my chances with getting my nose broken any fucking day over escalating some stupid thing to a “you lose, you die” situation, which is what guns do best.

 
 

Now you mention it, I don’t think it was real Substance, either.

Geez, I gotta diagram the irony or something?

 
 

“Now you mention it, I don’t think it was real Substance, either. My response stands, though.”

I guess we will never know.

 
 

Yeah, fucking yeah. Wake me up when I can 3D print myself a prime rib and bucket full of crab legs.

 
 

Geez, I gotta diagram the irony or something?

The moosebats in that post were a really nice touch.

 
 

Ah the mystery substance turned out to be good old irony filings!
Maybe I haven’t had my MDR today or something.

What a situation. The persistence of the malice combined with the psychotic lack of self-awarness is indeed frightening.

 
 

, “which is what guns do best.”

Yes, but those who get the greatest bulk of their information on what guns do from scripted entertainment often get very funny ideas.

 
 

Obama DOJ: Growth in Violent Crimes Against Whites Increased 18%

Not only is the U.S. economy in shambles, violent crime is at an all-time high and new federal statistics show that 2011 saw the biggest increase in criminal activity in nearly two decades with a large boost in the rate of “violent victimizations” for whites.

The rate of violent crime increased by a whopping 17% last year, according to the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), marking the biggest jump since 1993. Property crimes also went up 11% last year. That means that in 2011 there were nearly 6 million violent victimizations and more than 17 million property victimizations, according to the DOJ figures.
……

 
 

The message of the trial (from what I saw):

A black person near a sidewalk has equal lethal force to a (wanna-be) white person w/ a gun.

It’s not a lynching if the nigra can get to a sidewalk, because those make for lethal force, so any conflict resulting is fair, no matter how heavily armed the wannabe vigilante is.

 
 

“For actual commuting I built a sweet mid-90?s US-made steel mountain-bike frame into a custom commuter”

No concerns about saving energy for you, huh? We need to conserve energy. I’ve ridden bicycles, they waste huge amounts of energy. Especially going up hills!

 
 

Speaking of emasculation, it’s now officially part of court records that Zimmerman’s MMA instructor rates his fighting skills as pathetic.

DKW managed to find something amusing, if not quite funny in the affair. Good boy.

 
 

Kudos to Stevie Wonder for refusing to perform in states with Stand Your Ground -type laws. I hope more musicians follow suit. I don’t expect the struggling ones to do so, but they don’t have any weight to throw around, either.

 
 

From Day 1 (ok more like 3 cuz it took him a couple days to think it up) the entire Zimmerman defense has sounded to me like it was invented by Uncle Jimbo and Ned.

It’s comin’ right for us!!

 
 

No concerns about saving energy for you, huh? We need to conserve energy.

I’m lazy, too. Plus the work commute is 27 miles. Uphill, both ways.
.

 
 

“the entire Zimmerman defense”

And how would you rate the zeal of the prosecuter to convict? Did they make an anemic prosecution? Or was it a whole-hearted effort to convince the jury of Zimmerman’s guilt on those charges?

 
 

That’s a nice scooter, nice big wheels, good wind protection and lots of storage.
My wife, her bosom heaving according to the immutable physical laws which govern the heaving of bosoms, was asking me today about why I hadn’t put a battery in the bike what with good summer weather and all. She then gave the purchase her blessing (she also offers to buy me a ticket to San Fermin Pamplona every year, the dear, generous, girl)
to the purchase of a battery and battery tender.
Okay, but I’ve been pretty sour on motorcycle batteries for a while now. Should I get a Youasa (sp?) or try something like an Exide? The stupid VTR being a big L-twin, is hard to crank when cold, too, damnit.
Should I get a branded Honda battery? The original one lasted an awfully long time!

 
 

A black person near a sidewalk has equal lethal force to a (wanna-be) white person w/ a gun.

It’s also apparently the case that self-defense by a black person is aggression and aggression by a white person is self-defense. It must be magic!

 
 

I don’t mean day 1 of the trial. I mean day 1, the day Martin was shot.

And how would you rate the zeal of the prosecuter to convict?

I didn’t watch the trial, and so my opinion of the prosecution’s performance isn’t worth shit.

 
 

My commute is over 50 km, right through the middle of LEAFS SUCK, and then out the other end. It’s mostly flat though. Still not going to attempt it yet and certainly not both ways in the same day (with 8 hours of pretending to work in between). Maybe in a couple of months when I get the hang of biking again. But probably not. I am lazy.

 
 

Oh, just to clarify – i didn’t get a Source Eleven. I think my entire bike costs less than the Alfine IGH by itself.

 
 

which is what guns do best

EMTs like to say “Knife wounds go to the emergency room. Gunshot wounds go to the morgue.”

 
Super Patriotic American Power
 

Liberals will always wanna get robbed and raped by blacks before admiting that maybe most of them in hoodies at night are violent and looking for trouble? I think Travon and punks like him are now served that not more of your BS in our cities or look what happends.

 
 

Yuasa is fine. Exide will cost you more. Last time I bought a motorpickle battery I think I got it at Autozone or some such place. AIR, it’s a store brand.

 
 

Also, if you’re not riding the SuperChicken often enough to keep the battery up UR DOIN IT RONG.

 
 

It being 3 am, it was very brightly lit. It being Waikiki, it was not empty.

I can remember getting breakfast at the Denny’s in Waikiki sometime around 3 or 4 am – in my Air Force flight suit because I had to fly back to the States in about an hour.

I remember it being very, ahem, “interesting”.

 
What did you tell your children?
 

What did you tell your children when Roderick Scott was
acquitted of murdering Chris Conini?

 
 

Someone’s a Latent Appliance Fetishist.

 
 

“Yuasa is fine. Exide will cost you more.”

My ’81 BMW R-100BS (An R-100T to which I added the “S” fairing and handlbars, thus, R-100BS for ‘bullshit’) had a kickstarter. It was by that time an option, but it had one. Never should have sold that bike. I could have left it in my will. Instead of sticking with stolid worth, I chose glitter, plastic, fools gold.

 
 

Are the appliances latent, or the fetishism? Hyphenate, people.

(OK so I dunno if this is a job for a hyphen, and I have certain … issues, but the question seems interesting.)

 
 

Good luck with that one. In a very short time we’ve gone from very limited gun control to – everybody gets a concealed handgun and the legal right to use it any time someone says “boo!”

I believe he said “jigaboo.” That counts double, right?

 
 

Did I mention that Honda voltage regulators suck? They do, or at least did, big time.

 
 

Riding the superchicken…

 
 

Zimmerman’s brother was on teevee afterward complaining that George now had to worry about “armed vigilantes” who might “take the law into their own hands.”

How does one go through life with less self-awareness than the average amoeba?

 
 

Bitter Skrev scribe (strike that, reverse it):

How does one go through life with less self-awareness than the average amoeba?

Quite comfortably, judging from the lettercols of Chambersburg Public Opinion and the Hagerstown Herald-Mail.

 
 

Should I get a Youasa (sp?) or try something like an Exide? The stupid VTR being a big L-twin, is hard to crank when cold, too, damnit.
Should I get a branded Honda battery? The original one lasted an awfully long time!

I say this as a once-employee of a scooter shop… Honda’s OEM shit is amazing, and priced accordingly. Can’t go wrong, but you’re gonna pay!

The YAUSA battery is very good. No worries there.
.

 
 

Maybe it is YUASA.

Fuckin’ Chinese names. Who can recall?
.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

LittlePig said,

July 16, 2013 at 22:31 (kill)

That pretty much sums it up.

I cynically wonder if Zimmerman screamed like he did so as to set up his alibi.

Possibly, but I figured he screamed because he is a weak-ass tub of goo, and discovered that a scrawny kid half his size could kick his ass.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

bbkf said,

July 16, 2013 at 23:41 (kill)

well, miss chattypants here is heading out…time to go ply the hapless with alcohol and other refreshing beverages…

I am interested in your ideas, and would like to subscribe to your bar flyers.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

FWIW, UB40 did a reggae cover of Strange Fruit. More to my taste, not that that means anything.

Also, “schpadoinkle”? Can I get that on a t-shirt?

 
 

Did I mention that Honda voltage regulators suck? They do, or at least did, big time.

Not sure if it’s still true. My experience with all Honda OEM pars has been amazing, for bikes, anyway.

Regulators are easily replaced with The Tits, if you haz teh Google, though.
.

 
 

Not sure.
That’s a question for L. Ron Hoover.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

Mooser said,

July 16, 2013 at 23:23 (kill)

‘five foot two’

One inch too much.

 
 

One inch too much.

Hedwig, is that you?
.

 
 

Thang about motorcycle/scooter batteries… if you live in some hellhole where you can’t ride at LEAST every third day, year ’round, you need a battery tender to keep the battery from shitting its pants.
.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

“Yuasa is fine. Exide will cost you more.”

Same as in town.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

Are the appliances latent, or the fetishism? Hyphenate, people.

Used to be a punk band here in Milwaukee called the Appliances SFB.

 
 

If someone is into appliances, it’s good to know what appliances.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

All voltage regulators that are not incorporated into the alternator suck. Depending on a sheet-metal screw screwed into some random piece of sheet metal for a return path is a lousy system altogether, but the voltage regulator is where it really fucks you up. 99% of voltage regulators that are replaced are perfectly fine, but the freshly-screwed-in screws on the new one “fix the problem” (for a while) so they’re a very lucrative item for the parts industry. Just run a real wire from the mounting screws to a solid engine or cooling system ground and your problems will be solved.

 
 

Some comments on Provider’s post. His style is dense, more textual than like a transcript of an oration. My view is that from a purely persuasive, rhetorical standpoint, a faux-oral, (more) readable-out-loud style is most effective. On the other hand, a writerly style (and here, idiosyncracies may be a plus) is more intimate and indelible. Provider and Cerberus share these qualities.

But onward to the meat of my analysis. I’m not the only one who struggled with Provider’s central notion that Trayvon was lynched, in a manner of speaking, not literally. (I wonder how many black Americans wouldn’t get it, regardless of how fully they dug his prose; but I can’t answer that.) There are a few “huh?”-type comments in the thread, no doubt representative of more folks’ reactions.

Tonight I aim to support this thesis. I’ve read his words several times. Printing them out helped considerably. So did my life experience and imagination. Considering the depth of the issues raised, Provider was very terse. There is no primer, no outline, no key or footnotes: either you’re in his audience or not. I think he’s correct in not attempting a broader, more accessible appeal, because I think I’m in the bag and I’m telling you it’s fine in here.

“High-tech lynching,” he says. Let’s very quickly look at the elements of a lynching and see if unpacking Provider’s judgment would prove right.

An old-fashioned lynching involved a mob. Why? Sometimes to muster enough force to spirit away the negro, but not always: white folks had decent enough guns. No, the mob at the crime’s inception was a reflection of the prevalence of white supremacy in these communities. They weren’t even countering a black mob, or an armed black: they were cowardly to some extent, but mostly beginning the ceremony. After that the mob would parade and lynch their victim, complete with ritual, speeches, etc. — a full spectacle.

Which brings us back to 2013. First, let’s discard the notion that Zimmerman needed a mob, present on the scene, for this to be analogous to a lynching. He did not: he had a gun, and anyway, overt enforcement of white supremacy is out of style. He had, obviously, as much support from the police and criminal justice [sic] system as was necessary to see his killing through and save his hide, if nothing else.

I’m gonna cut short here, in the hopes that readers don’t need me or Provider to spell out how the right-wing, white-supremacist reaction and coverage mirrors a lynching — constitutes precisely the sort of high-tech lynching — that Provider maintained. Look to the spectacle, the grass-roots comments, the pundits. The cleverer ones weave byzantine gossamer lace around their ugliness (see my take on William Saletan).

I take it he’s in no mood to turn any somersaults demonstrating his compositional and creative capacities, but this is a finer piece the more I read it, and he’s made his case in a few words, with style, perhaps unfortunately leaving plenty of people in the dust.

 
 

Funny – if you like gallows humour:
Organized crime now plans murders in SYG states – because that way they can get off scott-free.

/aintthatamerica.mp3

 
 

I’m so glad John Roberts proved that we are in a post-racial America.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

The mob that performed the lynching was the Sanford PD, who let Zimmerman go without arresting him (at first), plus the troglodytes who passed the laws that would allow such an incredible action in the first place.

All Zimmerman did was pick out an unarmed teenager, mentally charge him with the crime of Walking While Black, stalk him, hunt him down, and kill him in cold blood. That’s first degree murder, and a racially-motivated hate crime, but it took the collectivity to lynch Trayvon Martin, by letting his murderer go free, by pretending to believe him when he showed up days later with “injuries” that were nowhere to be seen on the night of the murder, with a new story about a “fight”, and turning the trial into a trial of the victim rather than his murderer.

 
 

Well-said, Battleaxe. Tighter than I could manage.

For a second night in a row, I realize that people must eat food, not just beer and woozy guitar licks. Goodnight, swede prints.

 
What did you tell your children?
 

So did Roderick Scott lynch someone?

 
 

Wow, if anyone knows John Cole or any of the FP’ers at Balloon Juice it is showing up as a malware site – have they been hacked? I have never seen so many warnings.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

I realize that people must eat food, not just beer and woozy guitar licks.

Objection. Not borne out by the history of rock n roll.

 
zombie rotten mcdonald
 

S. cerevisiae, they are indeed aware and I think they are rebuilding as we speak.

Or else Tunch has returned as an evil spirit, and we all shall pay with pain and scritches.

 
 

I have never seen so many warnings.
Something was kinda hinky at LGM earlier as well.

 
 

Firefox won’t even let me near it. Maybe this is Drudges’s big riot. Pixels Unite! The server will serve us!

 
 

I’m sorry, I’m a real damaged man. Look at how often I post here and get deleted.

I need help.

 
 

Whether this state-sanctioned killing was a lynching or just a delusional hothead suddenly realizing he was a pussy and allowed to kill someone for the stereotypes haunting his dreams, they PUBLIC is certainly determined to get its money’s worth from this event.

We should remember that old-styled lynchings weren’t only about psychotics getting their rocks off on humiliating, degrading, brutalizing, controlling, and ultimately snuffing the life from another human being–it was primarily a terrorist act. Lynchings were meant to “send a message” to those who might next be targets, if society didn’t give in to the terrorist’s demands.

From above: I think Travon and punks like him are now served that not more of your BS in our cities or look what happends.

How many statements like this do we need to see and hear to understand that there is a HUGE contingent of racial terrorists plaguing this nation who are desperate to take ownership of this killing and put it to their own ends, regardless of the intention of the fuckhead Zimmerman?

 
 

I”m sorry I insulted you , DA.

I’ll take my thorazine and the other anti-psychotic medicine the doctor gave me, and try to ignore those voices in my head from now own.

 
 

I’m a racist asswipe.

 
 

I’m really sorry about that, DA, that was one of my ‘personalities’ you heard from. I think you’re a good guy and I’m sorry that I take out my problems on you.

 
 

It’s okay when I copypasta to make a point, but not if DA does it. Does everyone get it now?

 
 

Please ignore the above, I’m obviously a disturbed individual who doesn’t know what happened between Zimmerman and Martin more than anyone else does.

Could you find it in your hearts to forgive me?

 
 

I’m sorry, I won’t post here again.

 
 

And I’m sorry about following DA to different sites and bothering him there. I know it makes me appear to be a disturbed individual, and I won’t do it anymore.

 
 

The juror B37 stated that Stand Your Geound played a role in their decision.

Another lie by the gun lobby to exonerate their favorite dick extension.

 
 

Has anyone got a link to the dancing badgers?

 
 

Good morning, folks. Anything happen while I was sleeping? There’s some washed-up, ex-jock posting here, please ignore him, he’s mentally ill.

 
 

god, you two are pathetic…

 
 

Has anyone got a link to the dancing badgers?

today’s the big day, innit?

 
 

Actually, there are three of us. Didn’t you ever go to Sunday School.

 
 

and can you believe i have never seen ‘hairball’? how sad is that? but i’ve also never seen the johnny holmes traveling fun show…

 
 

See y’all in a few days, I’m off to four days of rock and/or roll. When I get back I think I will finally look into the magic badgers.

 
 

I’ll be with you, S.

 
 

Hairball really puts on a great show. I am really looking forward to Friday – Sweet/Johnny Rivers/B.O.C./Bachman & Turner (don’t know what happened to Overdrive)/Slash.

ROCK ON!

 
 

It’s just Bachmann and Turner, because of legal reasons even I cannot comprehend, they aren’t able to use the original name.

 
 

ROCK ON!

have fun, you lucky dog…

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Speaking of emasculation, it’s now officially part of court records that Zimmerman’s MMA instructor rates his fighting skills as pathetic. Seriously, even by the standard of macho dudes comparing penii, Zimmerman would still have been better off with no gun.

I get the impression Mr Zimmerman would have used knife, or big ass maglite flashlight, or teargas, or a taser. He doesn’t strike me as being confident enough to go out in the dark unarmed.

 
 

The Kitten Setting. It would solve so many problems.

 
 

Dance, badgers, dance!

 
 

The Kitten Setting. It would solve so many problems.

kittens are inspiring…

 
 

Soft kitty,
Warm kitty,
Little ball of fur.
Happy kitty,
Sleepy kitty,
Purr, purr, purr.

 
 

Holy Carp, the Kitten Setting could just take quotes from that video.

“I’m a magician!”
“I’m a rabbit!”

 
Justiceisserved
 

Badgers and kittens, what could possibly go wrong?

 
Justiceisserved
 

Quit nym-jacking me, DA.

 
 

Yeah, of course it wouldn’t _actually_ work that way because BLAH but damn ifFlorida didnt invite some unintended consequences.

I don’t think those consequences were unintended at all. Mammon must be served, the gun sales must go on.

See, that’s very clever, but yeah, the song and circumstances make for no funny.

Not all snark is intended as humor. Sometimes, bitter is the way to go.

 
 

Also good: http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-throws-hands-up-tells-black-teenagers-to-do,33125/

“In addition, the citizenry said that it’s basically gotten to the point where African-American teens need to avoid walking alone, hanging out in groups, or even minding their own business, especially if they are planning to do any of those things in public.”

 
 

The Onion can still bring it. I am sure they were worried the GOP Clown Show was going to make parody and satire superfluous.

 
 

I’m no fighting master or anything, but I’ll take my chances with getting my nose broken any fucking day over escalating some stupid thing to a “you lose, you die” situation, which is what guns do best.

With guns, “you win, you die” is every bit as likely.

 
 

Florida’s “stand your ground” law has allowed drug dealers to avoid murder charges and gang members to walk free. It has stymied prosecutors and confused judges. • It has also served its intended purpose, exonerating dozens of people who were deemed to be legitimately acting in self-defense. Among them: a woman who was choked and beaten by an irate tenant and a man who was threatened in his driveway by a felon.

Seven years since it was passed, Florida’s “stand your ground” law is being invoked with unexpected frequency, in ways no one imagined, to free killers and violent attackers whose self-defense claims seem questionable at best.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/florida-stand-your-ground-law-yields-some-shocking-outcomes-depending-on/1233133

 
Justiceisserved
 

I’m sorry I’m obsessed with you DA, I’ll stop this bullshit right away.

 
Justiceisserved
 

I have no ideas besides being a poopyhead.

Badgers, baby, Badgers!

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

With guns, “you win, you die” is every bit as likely.

Also, innocent bystanders could be killed as well.

 
 

Food porn- a friend of mine is making beer cheese. He gave me a container of the bacon-flavored one, and it was so good, it was almost sinful.

 
 

“And thus, this trial was properly conducted in full accordance with the U.S. justice system,” Frazier added. “For whatever that’s worth.”

sadly, yes…

The Onion can still bring it

writing for the onion would be my dream job…

 
 

Food porn- a friend of mine is making beer cheese. He gave me a container of the bacon-flavored one, and it was so good, it was almost sinful.

i could be in love with floyd…their faqs page is hilarious…

 
 

And some of my best friends are African-American, so I can’t be a racist.

 
 

Dennis said,

July 17, 2013 at 17:05

yes, it’s incredibly horrific for the doj to solicit information in a case rife with civil rights violations…nice of you to trivialize that…and you know, it doesn’t matter what zimmerman did in the past regarding blah america, the fact remains that he killed another person…a person who was doing nothing wrong…yes, from the sources you’ve posted, he seems like a wonderful man…i don’t know him but i know that he shot and killed another person when he didn’t have to…and justice just said, ‘eh, you did what you had to do…carry on!’ as if it didn’t even fucking matter that an innocent teenager was dead…the fact will always remain that zimmerman went through a process of increasingly bad decisions and another person ended up dead…you can post all the happy crap you want to about him, but you can’t change that fact…

 
Justiceisserved
 

I have a leopard
Named Mr. Peppered.

 
 

i could be in love with floyd…their faqs page is hilarious…

The owners are great guys. They also own Union Hall and the Bell House. They’re very creative and host a lot of special events.

 
 

All Zimmerman did was pick out an unarmed teenager, mentally charge him with the crime of Walking While Black,

Heard some more from juror B37. Asked if she thought Zimmerman profiled Martin she said no, of course not, the fnever came up. She went on to say she thought Zimmerman profiled Martin just like he would anyone acting suspiciously. The world would be a better place if she made herself extinct post haste.

it’s supposed to say “the race thing never” where it sez “fnever”. Sleipnir on Ice Cream Sandwich won’t let me edit it for some very bizarre reason.

 
 

anyone acting suspiciously

Walking on the sidewalk! Wearing a hoodie with the hood up in the rain!

 
 

Bbkf has a new buddy.

 
 

anyone acting suspiciously

Being a black male between the ages of 12 and 65.

 
 

I say this as a once-employee of a scooter shop… Honda’s OEM shit is amazing, and priced accordingly. Can’t go wrong, but you’re gonna pay!

The YAUSA battery is very good. No worries there.”

Thanks very much for the input and advice. I didn’t get back til this morning. Okay, I thought there was something extraordinary about that original Honda-branded battery.
And now that I don’t ride as much, I’ll get a tender. Maybe I’ll even junk my 25 year old, left-out-in-the-rain-between-uses Craftsman battery charger.
Thanks again, all.

 
 

“Bbkf has a new buddy.”

I’m sticking with non-response. The only result of any kind of response is a crap-storm of nym-jacking, profanity and bigotry. And if the response is measured and logical, the shit-storm just gets worse.
I’ve been urged to non-response, my own judgement agrees, I assented, and I’m sticking with it. I would urge others to do so.

 
The Voice of Reason
 

Dennis: why don’t you stick your gun up your ass and pull the trigger?

 
 

That’s the spirit my ungulate friend!

 
 

“H (sic) has graffiti all over his garage, trash all over his lawn and lives on a street full of WHITE TRASH. .

Gosh, I never realised how much I have in common with some of the other posters.

 
 

thanks for your sort of approval dennis…i do have a son and i would be madder than hell at him for getting out of his car and escalating the situation. and yes, if you put yourself in that position, you have to tak your lumps. my son also has a conceal/carry and a handgun and he knows that i absolutely HATE that fact. he’s lived in some sketchy neighborhoods and he’s had his car broken into numerous times and things stolen from his yard…but i still don’t think a gun is the answer. just one second can and has devastated so many lives…and for the most part, for what? because some of your shit was taken? because you look like you ‘might’ be up to something? as a mom i worry a fucking lot about him getting into a situation like that and fucking the rest of his life up. he’s into boxing and he’s pretty quick and strong and could certainly defend himself in other ways than with a gun…

and i don’t believe for a second that zimmerman’s life was in danger…although now that we know he was shitty at defending himself, i guess maybe a scrawny teenager could have beat him up…

and, my main contention in answering your comment was that you keep bringing up how not racist zimmerman is or was and that that is moot…and yes, the justice system didn’t seem to care that a kid was dead…the cops didn’t even arrest zimmerman until there was public outcry and juror b-37 sure seems to be thinking along those lines…

zimmerman fucked up…even if he’s a swell guy, he fucked up and got off because florida has shitty laws…

 
 

Re: beer cheese. I was at a Saints watching party in NOLA and one of the hipsters present was all exercised about one of the pizza commercials which claimed “this country is being undercheesed, big time. “. Even in this seriously overcheesed country there’s undoubtedly a market for decent spreads cause everybody is used to crap and liking it.

 
 

“That’s the spirit my ungulate friend!”

Oh, I’m not sure it’s “spirit”, it’s more like neausea and fear. The guy has a lot of loose torx.

 
 

I’ve been urged to non-response, my own judgement agrees, I assented, and I’m sticking with it. I would urge others to do so.

i thought the official line was that responding is okay if there is a greater point to be made…which is what i am, in my own roundabout way, trying to do…

 
 

“i thought the official line was that responding is okay if there is a greater point to be made”

Pupenius, would you care to give “bbkf” the same avuncular advice you gave me about winning “the battle of wits”? I’m too busy clutching my brow (before it beetles away) and smiting my forehead. That requires both front hooves, so I can’t type

 
 

the same avuncular advice you gave me about winning “the battle of wits”?

i am going to be ambiguous about who would win that battle…should there be one to win…

 
 

There’s a storm gathering. A JUNK PUNCHING storm.

Get em, bbkf.

 
 

Re: beer cheese. I was at a Saints watching party in NOLA and one of the hipsters present was all exercised about one of the pizza commercials which claimed “this country is being undercheesed, big time. “. Even in this seriously overcheesed country there’s undoubtedly a market for decent spreads cause everybody is used to crap and liking it.

as he should be excercised…one thing about ‘murika…for all our love of ‘cuisine’ via the food network, and some of it seems pretty decent and could actually be called cuisine, we sure love our crappy fast food…and apparently the bigger the portions and the more cheese and bacon you can cram on there, the better…for the life of me, i can’t think of why we have an obesity epidemic…

 
 

“i am going to be ambiguous about who would win that battle”

You should be. Unless you are prepared to start nym-jacking, and flood the thread with profane, scatological and bigoted ad absurdums you really don’t have a chance in that ‘battle of twits’. Gosh, I wish there was an edit function here.
But you go ahead and use whatever tactics you think best.

 
 

Don’t conflate “standing your ground” with self defense, Denise. They are not the same thing.

 
 

bbkf – no, it doesn’t matter WHAT you say, it only cares that you respond. It craves attention, in a sick and twisted way. Pay it no mind and it will go bother people who don’t understand that.

 
 

And now that I don’t ride as much, I’ll get a tender.

I don’t know if your bike is parked outside, but I bought a solar powered tender for my airport-car that sits down in Memphis and gets driven maybe once every couple months.

They seem to work pretty well.

 
 

Re cheese spread, liptauer baby! I’ve been waging a comeback campaign for Liptauer for many years.

 
 

He did, we agree on that, but I don’t know and haven’t heard from anyone here what laws Florida shouldve had that would’ve yielded a different outcome. The self-defense defense laws applied have been in place for a long time.

since 2005, so not really that long…and just because a law is on the books doesn’t mean it’s a good law…

i believe dkw would argue that there have been suggestions as to what types of laws would have yielded a different outcome…and being as ‘stand your ground’ laws are notorious for allowing gunmen to go free, and can be used at a judge or jury’s whim, it shouldn’t be a law at all…that would have gone a loooong way towards a different outcome…

 
 

I knew that would get a rise out of our favorite Liptauer advocate. What I’ve seen in catering is that clients love the sound of it and then don’t eat it. Me, I love anchoas and I always finish the Liptauer.

 
 

bbkf – no, it doesn’t matter WHAT you say, it only cares that you respond. It craves attention, in a sick and twisted way. Pay it no mind and it will go bother people who don’t understand that.

i know, i know…i’ll stop now, i’ve said my piece and feel much better…although a junkpunch would also go a long way…

 
 

“I don’t know if your bike is parked outside”

Hell no! My BMWs were made of good sturdy materials, not easily degraded by UV. These “sport” (if you’ll excuse the presumption, the VTR is mostly an “all rounder, only with terrible stock suspension.) bikes are mostly ABS and other plastics, and parking them outside will destroy them in short order.
No, I simply obtained several refrigerator boxes, and added a garage to my house. Of course, the house is Frigidaire, and the garage Whirlpool, but in a crappy white trash neighborhood like mine, who notices?

 
 

liptauer, beer cheese…STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD!!! I AM STARVING AND THE TURKEY AND VEGGIES I HAVE FOR LUNCH ARE NOT GOING TO CUT IT!!!

 
 

“although a junkpunch would also go a long way…”

Go ahead, it’s your monitor. So know you are (as I, and countless others) craving a ‘junkpunch’ you can’t possibly obtain. So where does that put the score? Pup is right.

 
 

BTW, the SuperChickens were notorious for regulator issues. I never met a VTR that wasn’t on its second or third reg.

 
 

“…and being as ‘stand your ground’ laws”

Whose ground? Wasn’t it a public street, not a private community.
Not, of course, that I doubt that Florida has a big investment in giving fearful retirees the impression that “their neighborhoods” are de jure as well as de facto segregated. Or somehow ‘private’.
To explain to the jury and govern the trial by the actual legal standing (two men on a public street, one armed and with a car, one not) both people had might have been deleterious for Florida’s image as a retirement haven.

 
 

“BTW, the SuperChickens were notorious for regulator issues. I never met a VTR that wasn’t on its second or third reg.”

Oh, it gets worse, after a couple years they changed to a later style-battery, which took a deeper charge but needed to be charged slower, requiring a different regulator. A regulator which wouldn’t charge the early battery fast enough.
I’ve already been the victim of that at a local Honda dealer, who installed a new-type battery (‘it costs more but it’s better’) with my spiking, old style regulator. The new battery was boiling like a teapot in 30 miles.
Then they replaced the regulator, but put in an old-style battery, and I fear the regulator is late-style, and undercharges the battery.

Jesus, my frickin’ BMW R100 had a voltage gage and a kickstarter. But no, I wanted to sniff the exhaust of the motor home in front of me that much faster.

 
 

I have a pet cougar
(fill in your own dirty thoughts here)

 
 

I always thought prefacing one’s nym with “saint” when responding to trools was a good idea. It lets those who want to respond do so and those who don’t want to see it block. That said, I’ve enjoyed the kitten samples people have posted.

 
 

“But no, I wanted to sniff the exhaust of the motor home in front of me that much faster.”

I should have kept the BMW and put a bottle in front of me. Wait a minute, is that right?

 
 

here’s a thought…when one is clumsy and wearing a white skirt, perhaps beets are not a vegetable you should be eating at your desk…

 
 

“SuperChickens were notorious for regulator issues.”

VFR’s and some Gold Wings, too. What’s funny, is that Ducati finally became electrically reliable when they switched (Italian manufacturing-content laws changed) to Japanese electricals, and carbs in the 90’s. (Mikuni) They have since switched to sophisticated and reliable Weber-Marelli injection-ignition (‘engine management”). And carbs are a thing of the past now, no Duc has them and very few others. They even have kick-start fuel-injected dirt bikes..

 
 

I’ve been on a yearlong experiment in kimchi. Aside from the off gassing clothes staining is an issue. Upside; great kimchi is great food.

 
 

when one is clumsy and wearing a white skirt

I stick with tie-dyed skirts. Food camo, see? SUPER GENIUS.

 
 

perhaps beets are not a vegetable you should be eating at your desk…”

From very gratifying personal experience, I can recommend beets, especially home grown beets, eaten the day proceding a drug test. It does everybody, especially the tech handling the sample, more good than a week at the seashore, or even a religious retreat.

 
 

Cornell Belcher: “…while pundits can argue all day about the legal correctness of the verdict, one has to submit that letting an armed grown man off scot-free after he stalked and killed a teenager who was doing nothing more than walking home with candy does not sit well in the court of moral opinion.

There being no consequence for killing an unarmed child who wasn’t bothering anyone has to be in conflict with our nation’s moral compass or we have to admit that our moral compass is at best broken and at worst a convenient lie.”

 
 

Unless you are prepared to start nym-jacking, and flood the thread with profane, scatological and bigoted ad absurdums you really don’t have a chance in that ‘battle of twits’.

Funny, the asshole posted a homophobic comment on a blog on my blogroll that is run by a really nice guy from Singapore. First, it’s funny that he thinks calling me a “fudgpacker” would bear a sting (better a confectionery packaging agent than a stupid troll). Secondly, the fact that he displayed his idiocy on a funny lifestyle blog by a young guy on the other side of the world is just a “head scratching” moment. Really, WTF?

Truly, he is the most bizarre, damaged individual I’ve ever come across and I used to investigate suspicious insurance claims.

 
 

I see a new tye die skirt in bbkf’s future.

 
 

I stick with tie-dyed skirts. Food camo, see? SUPER GENIUS.

yes, i am hep to the multi-colored clothing option…also, i bet tie-dyed skirts really show off your legs…

 
 

“Upside; great kimchi is great food.”

Love it, except I have had some which is way too darned hot. Like Marilyn Miller.

 
 

I see a new tye die skirt in bbkf’s future.

and if i get a long one, NO MORE SHAVING MY LEGS!!! win/win/win!

 
 

Funny, the asshole posted a homophobic comment on a blog on my blogroll that is run by a really nice guy from Singapore. First, it’s funny that he thinks calling me a “fudgpacker” would bear a sting (better a confectionery packaging agent than a stupid troll). Secondly, the fact that he displayed his idiocy on a funny lifestyle blog by a young guy on the other side of the world is just a “head scratching” moment. Really, WTF?

he came to my house and called me and maeve fucking ugly…how awesome is that? i mean, c’mon…my puppy is ANYthing but ugly!

 
 

Like Marilyn Miller.

does she still go by that name?

 
 

we have to admit that our moral compass is at best broken and at worst a convenient lie

After a bloody civil war over owning other people, a 150 year long struggle for equality for everyone but white male landowners, a justice system that is patently unfair to the underprivileged and non-white, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, an economic system that stacks the deck against upward mobility and rewards criminal behavior…

I question the very existence of a “moral compass”. I don’t think any such thing actually exists for the majority of Americans.

 
 

Love it, except I have had some which is way too darned hot.

Unpossible!

 
 

“Truly, he is the most bizarre, damaged individual I’ve ever come across and I used to investigate suspicious insurance claims.”

And so goddam unpleasent and tiresome! And the pathological level of presumption without the slightest awareness of projection!
I could go on, but why? Seems to me the correct course is to step gingerly around the mess, and hope the clean-up detail gets here before anybody else steps in it. I’ve seen it, oh, about half-a-dozen times by now, and I finally learned.

 
 

he came to my house and called me and maeve fucking ugly…how awesome is that? i mean, c’mon…my puppy is ANYthing but ugly!

That’s some petty, small-minded shit. He’s a man-shaped hole in the fabric of the universe.

 
 

i don’t know who the nymjacking troll is…at least i don’t think i know who it is…could be anyone, i guess…all i know is that they have a fetid mind and a weird way of getting their jollies…

 
 

“and I used to investigate suspicious insurance claims.”

You mean like when I tried to claim that two refrigerator boxes formed into a crude bike shelter and dissolved by rain was a $200,000 brick-built carriage house, complete with Mother-in-Law apartment, man-cave, machine shop, and horse stables? Which was destroyed by terrorists, which gives me double-indemnity? Those kind of claims?

 
 

<i.“Upside; great kimchi is great food.”

so, that is like asian sauerkraut? i could probably be down with that…i discovered yesterday that institutionally boiled cabbage is nastay! a friend has offered her baked cabbage recipe which features heavy whipping cream, ground mustard and bacon…i could also be down with that…

 
 

Hairball really puts on a great show. I am really looking forward to Friday – Sweet/Johnny Rivers/B.O.C./Bachman & Turner (don’t know what happened to Overdrive)/Slash.

When I saw this, I thought “Oh, band slash now, huh? Figures.”

Then I figured out that Slash is a band. Not nearly so entertaining.

 
 

so, that is like asian sauerkraut?

Basically yes, except a bit spicier. I will often use it in place of sauerkraut because I’m not a big fan of sauerkraut.

 
 

there’s a law perfesser on mpr right now who sounds like ray romano…it’s kind of off-putting…

 
 

Kimchi is a fermented brassica but has no other likeness to sauerkraut. Garlic, ginger, lots of ground chili, fish sauce or miso ( I make vegan kimchi, me! vegan! ) fermented. I tried a bunch of chili mixes ( favorite; paprika, New Mexico, ground pasilla ) but you can just buy the Korean powder if it’s handy.

 
 

Of course she does, with all this, and more, to be proud of.

oh, thilly me! i learned someting new today…here i thought you were being a smartypants and calling marilyn monroe marilyn miller…it was the ‘too darned hot’ that made me think that…it made me think of ‘some like it hot’ and then i went from there…

now you are privy to the tortured meanderings of my branes…you are welcome…

 
 

Did I mention napa cabbage?

 
 

so, el m, do you suppose you could get some of that to the major and he could fly it to me?

 
 

One thing I miss about having a house with ample space for the endeavor is making sauerkraut. Homemade kraut is very unlike anything you can get at the store. We sometimes ate it right out of the jar.

Kimchi, bbkf, is Korean fermented cabbage with chilies.

 
 

When I was in college, one of my roomies was a food chemistry major. They made sauerkraut in one of her labs, and sent it home with the students. One 8f my other roomies, whose mother was addicted to cookbooks and got the overflow, found a recioe for sauerkraut chocolate cake. It was quite good.

This would not work for kim chee, which would be too spicy – the wrong kind of spicy for chocolate cake, I think.

 
 

Once you get used to real kraut, well there’s no substitute. Live food.

 
 

Even people who don’t like kraut, a la the Major, scarf it up. Especially when it’s been “braised” – for hours – with chicken stock, diced onion, diced apple and caraway seeds.

 
 

Technically I shouldn’t call that kraut but rather choucroute garni, as that’s how it is known in Alsace Lorrain.

 
 

I will once again re-iterate what I said when this thing all started. The “stand your ground law” sucks and needs to be gotten rid of, but that shouldn’t be the main thing we get out of this case. Nor is George Zimmeman’s racial profiling. Individual racists, I fear, will always be around. The thing that this case should bring to focus is the institutional racism that is still so predominant in this supposedly post-racial America. The Sanford police department should be getting a lot more scrutiny and heat over it’s handling of this whole situation. The Florida state’s attorney’s office should also be facing heavy scrutiny. Individual racists will likely always be with us, but they are far less likely to act out violently if the lawmakers and law enforcers do their jobs properly. The “trial” was simply a nice bit of misdirection theater to take our focus of the real problem.

 
 

I can’t say I’ve ever had the real stuff. I spent most of my time in Munich eating at ethnic restaurants because I found the German food to be mostly bland.

The beer was as good as you would imagine, but other than schweineshaxe I wasn’t that impressed with the food.

 
 

How do I load a free e-book onto my Android’s Kindle app? No, I FUCKING HATE reading manuals.

 
 

One thing I miss about having a house with ample space for the endeavor is making sauerkraut. Homemade kraut is very unlike anything you can get at the store. We sometimes ate it right out of the jar.

we have a friend who makes it and gives us a few jars every year…it is yummers…and, nope, the canned stuffed doesn not compare at all…

 
 

I question the very existence of a “moral compass”. I don’t think any such thing actually exists for the majority of Americans.

We have a very strong moral compass! We’re just following the wrong end of the needle.

 
 

found a recioe for sauerkraut chocolate cake. It was quite good.

ah, yes! i have had this delicacy before and it is delish…i love those kinds of cookbooks…the ones who also give us tomato soup cake and mashed potato candy…however, at the 4th of july potluck, one lady brought pork and bean bars…she kept saying ‘pork and beans’ and i knew she meant this hideous concoction and when she said you blend them up in a blender with eggs and whatnot i almost barfed…and no, they did not taste like pumpkin bars as she was vailiantly claiming…

 
 

d’oh! tagfail… THIS concoction…

 
 

Apropos of nothing in particular, but I saw this quote

Enzi wants to be a sober, serious legislator working with his liberal friends across the aisle to make a better country. Except there are no friends across the aisle, and the liberals do not want to make this a better country. Liberals want to ruthlessly acquire and maintain power and control over every aspect of our lives, …

WRT Liz Cheney running for Senate. Peeking at the url, I see the quote is from Clownhall, some fellow with a very germanic sounding name. At any rate, it just goes to show that Cerb’s right (as always), IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION.

 
 

Those kind of claims?

Uhhh… maybe…

Kimchi is a fermented brassica but has no other likeness to sauerkraut.

It’s actually any fermented vegetable flavored with chilies. A friend of mine had a bumper crop of cucumbers one year, so he and his wife put up a ton of cucumber kimchi. They also made a mean bibimbap last time I visited them.

 
 

The Sanford police department should be getting a lot more scrutiny and heat over it’s handling of this whole situation. The Florida state’s attorney’s office should also be facing heavy scrutiny.

Oh, absolutely. I don’t see that happening anytime soon, despite its obviousness. SCROTUS, after all, eviscerated the VRA with this going on in the background. It just pisses me off mightily that the hateful loons have such a disproportionate voice. I don’t think it’s all explainable by “good theater” and lazy/scared “reporters.” I’m beginning to be afraid we’ve hit some kind of tipping point, and we’re all headed for a kristallnacht (sp?).

 
 

what the hell?!

 
 

I really like the little turnips w/greens attached kimchi-fied.

 
 

okay, again STOP WITH THE FOOD!

 
 

okay, again STOP WITH THE FOOD!

You’re really going to hate the blog entry I’m working on.

 
 

okay, again STOP WITH THE FOOD!

Okay. Last night Teh Ho made one of the few dishes he can do well, chicken paprikash and spaetzle. Hafta drain the spaetzle then return to the pot and dry them a bit then toss with a huge gob of butter and a buncha fresh grated parm regg. Top with minced parsley.

 
 

He took the leftovers for his lunch so I am stuck with the leftover boeuf Bourgingon from Sunday.

 
 

I think napa cabbage is great, I just don’t think mixing it with regular cabbage or strong-flavored veggies is fine, because then you drown out the taste of the stuff.

 
 

Tonight imma milk braise a pork sirloin roast. I think Marcella calls for loin but braising needs a wee bit of fat and connective tissue. Lean cuts like the loan get dry and grainy.

 
 

FYautocorrect.

 
 

Too damn hot to cook anything. Imma have cake and ice cream for dinner.

 
 

Pups, you’re killing me here too. bbkf, I empathise.
I have dined – storebought tomato soup and two pieces of storebought white bread. And you mention Boeuf Bourgignon – you fiend ! And your famous chicken stock – heartless fiend !

 
Justiceisserved
 

Justice BABY JUSTICE!

 
 

tigris said,

July 17, 2013 at 18:58 (kill)

I always thought prefacing one’s nym with “saint” when responding to trools was a good idea. It lets those who want to respond do so and those who don’t want to see it block. That said, I’ve enjoyed the kitten samples people have posted.

What she said.

Just to clarify a bit, precisely what tigris means is that if you, FSM only knows the reason why, decide to engage a troll, please put “St.” in front of your nym, (e.g. “St. Mooser”). That way those of us clever folk with the pet badgers can engage them and watch them dance merrily instead of being forced to see one half of an inane trollversation.

Also, too, &c: “Greasemonkey And The Badgers” would be an OK band name.

 
 

MWAHAHAHA

 
 

okay, again STOP WITH THE FOOD!

As if!

I’m currently considering which nearby lunch place to go to out of the dozen or so available. Right this second I’m leaning toward a giant slice of pizza and a pint of beer. Although both the texmex place and thai joint are appealing as well… Oooh, I haven’t had the Hawaiian place’s “sweet shoyu chicken” in a while, and it comes with that delightfully horrible “salad” of mayo, pepper, and macaroni.

Decisions, decisions!

 
 

Pups, you’re killing me here too. bbkf, I empathise.
I have dined – storebought tomato soup and two pieces of storebought white bread. And you mention Boeuf Bourgignon – you fiend ! And your famous chicken stock – heartless fiend !

yeah!

MWAHAHAHA

you laff now…

 
 

why are you westcoasters so mean? i might have to fling myself upon a crying couch and bite my pillow!

 
 

Too damn hot to cook anything. Imma have cake and ice cream for dinner.

That’s hilarious

Pups, you’re killing me here too. bbkf, I empathise.

He’s cruel that way. I ate the last of my purslane, but there is plenty more where that came from. Did a repeat of the salad with onion, tomato, feta, extra-virgin olive oil, and pieces of toasted pita bread to soak up the juice. Damn, that was one proper salad.

 
 

Heh.
Biting the pillow

 
 

these are my lunchtime options:
subway
dairy queen
eddie pepper’s tex mex fast food crap at the gas station
other assorted gutbombs at other gas station
pizza ranch
coffee house (featuring paninis)
grill and bar (featuring paninis and your basic burgers)
country club house (featuring paninis and burgers and salads)
“50s” diner across the way feat. anything they can deep fry
vending machine

i weep…

 
 

Oh no, I forgot about the Bento joint! And the Pita place. And the bar with the yummy burgers, and the other thai/Pho place, and the other Bento place, and the hot dog spot…

I’ll have to walk down the street and see what smells the best as I go by.

 
 

okay, new yorkers are mean too…

 
 

hey suezboo…how goes it? did your robber ever get caught?

 
 

okay, new yorkers are mean too…

Hey, I bet your weeds are just as tasty as mine!

 
 

If it’s as “It’s too far north to be this freakin’ hot” there like it is here, I’d go with the Dairy Queen.
…in a bowl.
A cone wouldn’t make it to the car, forget walking home with it.
“Cooler near The Lake”, as they always say on the forecast, is making not one whit of difference.

 
 

Hey, I bet your weeds are just as tasty as mine!

why, sirrah! talk like that could make a girl blush!

 
 

eddie pepper’s tex mex fast food crap at the gas station

My, that’s a long restaurant name.

Unrelated: I don’t know where this t-shirt came from. Funny how things sometimes turn up. It sez: “Darfur Action Committee.” When I go out later, I’ll have to take it off. I never wear it outside, because I wasn’t involved with the committee, and I bet they were ineffective.

 
 

“Cooler near The Lake”, as they always say on the forecast, is making not one whit of difference.

you are so correct…also, too…it is getting to be the time of year when the lovely big stone lake gives off quite a stench and it is rumored that in some places you could walk across it…

damn, ice cream does sound good…BUT…i will not lose an ounce if i give in…i’m feeling quite self-flagellated reading all this food pron and telling myself that those good old lean meats and veggies are ever so yummy and filling!!!

 
 

“calling marilyn monroe”

Who? Did she tap dance? How are her ankles? You can tell almost everything you need to know about a girl from a glimpse of her ankle.

 
 

How are her ankles?

i miss t & u…

 
 

“Homemade kraut”

We did that. My wife came up with the kraut-crock and pressing-top and we had lots of homegrown, tight cabbage that year. Some of the two or three tons of the stuff we turned out was good. The EPA is still holding hearings on the rest, but for a while I thought I would have to change the sign out in front of our cottage for sale from “Moosehall” to “Superfund Site”, and move to a small hotel with a wishing well. And I don’t care what the stupid Kitsap Sun reported, none of it actually exploded, slaying five. Hell, it’s 12:35 right now, five is fine.

 
 

Nah, bbkf. Our local cops have been very cool (not like the Fla ones) but there are so many unemployed teenagers looking to grab some quick money for crack that I truly doubt they will catch him.
Thanks for asking, hon. The incident still makes me all twitchy.

 
 

Just in: Breitbart is still dead.

 
 

“How are her ankles?”

Well-turned, one hopes, with patrician insteps what they bespeaks the daughter of a hundred earls, and toes like ten perfect shrimp of graduated sizes. Do they still make girls like that? The kind of girl who upturns her nose on her face plainly, to be kissed, raising one shapely calf behind her. The kind of girl you used to find in 4H.

 
 

I just want to let you know, Sadly, No! , you are making me fear for my life.

I want to put it out there, you know, just in case.

 
 

For some reason I would have guessed no crack there, Suezboo.

 
 

The dog days and the horse latitudes are both upon this blog like white on rice.

Then go elsewhere, troll. Your presence here is neither required nor wanted by anyone here.

 
 

Mrs. R. has been making kimchi for a few months now. It makes breakfast………………..exciting.

The older a batch gets, the more……….exciting it gets. On the other hand, my occasional bouts with dyspepsia have all but vanished. I am teeming with friendly gut bacteria!!

 
 

Also, just got an Amazon flyer promoting Rise Again which is already in my Kindle library. Anyway, the author, our erstwhile commentater, is apparently working on the sequel: Rise Again: Below Zero. I was like all OMG he didn’t tell us! Not due for relase until Dec 17. 🙁

 
 

Well-turned, one hopes,

A little TOO well turned at one point.

 
 

Spengler is the kind of occasional that trollstorms discourage.

 
 

This local commercial cracks me up whenever the guy sings about “Conrad the master baker”.

 
 

As a young teen I was sent to East Asia for several weeks one summer with other “gifted” kids. In Korea we modified the American expression “wake up and smell the coffee” to involve kimchi. It seemed funny at the time. Dead-pan advice to wise up. I can’t recall eating the stuff since. I liked it, though.

 
 

I was a gifted kid once, but they handed me right back to my parents after a week.

 
 

This local commercial cracks me up whenever the guy sings about “Conrad the master baker”.

I ran in a relay race recently that finished by running around Yaquina Bay and over the bridge. One of the winning teams was named “Master Bay Tours.”

 
 

Gifted children are a gift that keeps on taking.

 
 

I was a gifted kid once, but they handed me right back to my parents after a week.

So, you were a re-gifted child.

 
 

My gift to my children was to not have them. They’d thank me.

 
 

I was never comfortable with the “gifted” label. They tried to recruit me for the academic decathlon, too — I’m not sure what shortcoming my presence was supposed to address — but by then I was so over H.S. I dropped out early in my junior year.

 
 

This local commercial cracks me up whenever the guy sings about “Conrad the master baker”.

i only wish i could find a clip for one of the grocery stores i frequent…the old man sings barbershop all by himself and tailors barbershop favorites to fit a holiday or sale…quite hilarious and charming…

 
 

coming up on npr:

foie gras: delicacy or disgrace?

 
 

Troll, if you don’t like this site, then find another one that suits your liking.

As for my sleep cycles, I’d have to remove the spyware from your computer and iPhone and that’s just too much work for all the fun they bring me.

 
 

My gift to my children was to not have them.

That’s also my gift to society. No telling what kind of demonic little hellspawn I might have produced.

 
 

I was never comfortable with the “gifted” label.

Count your blessings. It sure beats being considered barely smart enough to live on your own. I kept on telling them it wasn’t true, but they just kept kicking me out and saying “Go get a job, nudnick!”

But time has since vindicu…windykited, , vin-de-sickled…( oh crap, where’s Google?) proved me right! I’m not smart enough to live on my own.

 
 

You must tweet 10 Hail Marys and blog the Lords’ Prayer for your sins

 
 

OT but yow: has anybody else had their homeowner’s insurance spike lately? Mine just went up like 30% from last year, and last year’s was up 26% from the year before……….same coverage, mind youze……….wtf??

Got a call in to my agent but I haven’t heard back yet………………. I’ve got a feeling I’m gonna need all the friendly gut bacteria I can get!

 
 

No telling what kind of demonic little hellspawn I might have produced.

oh, i don’t know…anyone who can produce such lovely kitten rhymes would prolly have some nice kids…

 
 

At any rate, I have attained a tentative sort of security, but at the cost of many a night spent fluttering like a wounded bird in my patronesses boudoir, held transfixed by a pair of kohl-rimmed eyes sparkling with belladonna and inflamed by lust, until a merciful syncope releases me from the knowledge of my degradation. Anyway, it’s a living.

 
 

In an effort to lure the shrinking flock of young Roman Catholics to a more wired religious world, a Vatican court has ruled that following Pope Francis online and on Twitter can earn believers time off from their sentence to purgatory for confessed and forgiven sins.

and christians want to be taken seriously….

 
 

The shrinking frocks of young RC’s have always been of interest to me.

 
 

If your comments weren’t deleted all the time here, troll, my Mendoza line would be the Empire State Building compared to yours.

 
 

RS did it just to give conservative meatheads like our resident troll something to bitch about.

 
 

foie gras: delicacy or disgrace?

Yes

 
 

What the hell is this about Catholic youth? Most Catholics…yes, I would say “most”, are very clean, and do not stink. And the girls wash their dresses. Horrible, the way these prejudices persist.

 
 

foie gras: delicacy or disgrace?

Disgrace maybe, but delicious disgrace.

 
 

My mother graduated from Notre Dame High School, San Jose, CA in 1954. She told me one time that half of the graduates of her class got married almost immediately because they wanted to know what sex was all about(man-woman, not the beastly obscene process that produced our resident trolls here),

Jusrt saying.

 
 

Badgers. Badgers everywhere.

 
 

No telling what kind of demonic little hellspawn I might have produced.

Now, see, I’m as big a fuck-up as anyone here–except the attention whoring trolls, of course. I have 3 good kids. Well adjusted, minimal amount of trouble, no teen pregnancies…

It’s not that I think everyone SHOULD have kids, just those who actually want to. The point is, damn near all of you would make pretty damn good parents, I think. But that’s just my opinion which is always the correct one..

 
 

I’m sorry, troll, but your comments have to be here at least 12 hours before they are admitted into our Mendoza-lined hot tub.

Sucks to be you.

 
 

I have 3 good kids. Well adjusted, minimal amount of trouble, no teen pregnancies…

neither of my two have been in jail, gotten pregnant nor have had long term counseling…yet. so, i’m cautiously calling my child-rearing a success…so far…

 
 

It’s not that I think everyone SHOULD have kids, just those who actually want to.

and sometimes not even the ones who want to should…

 
 

and since one is a boy and one can’t have kids, i guess i can rule that one out…although if number one son gets pregnant, you can bet imma make as much money off that as i can…

 
 

although if number one son gets pregnant, you can bet imma make as much money off that as i can…

Start taking him to the Catholic church–maximize your odds of a pregnancy…

 
 

Good news for all you orthodox gays out there: Wet® personal lubricants are now certified Kosher.

Santorum Labs® is now working on Kosher POOP, semen and blood.

 
 

sigh

 
 

The New York Post gave the kosher lube story their second-best headline ever: “The Oy of Sex”.

(They’re going to be hard-pressed to ever top “Headless Body in Topless Bar”.)

 
 

“yet. so, i’m cautiously calling my child-rearing a success”

You are taking the right course, all that boasting (no matter how well-deserved) can do is attract the Evil Eye. So if your kid just got a full ride academic scholarship to Yale, and is captaining the gridiron nine, withal, when asked about him (or her) shrug and say something like “A tree should grow in Brooklyn, he (or she) hasn’t been convicted of anything, yet. I just hope he grows up to be a mensch” Or in the case of a girl menschette.

 
 

You are taking the right course, all that boasting (no matter how well-deserved) can do is attract the Evil Eye

that is the first maxim one learns of parenting…if one is paying attention that is. early on i found out that as soon as i said anything good about them, even something as inocuous as, ‘sleeps through the night’…bam! that child would be wailing all night long…

i also learned to never, ever utter: ‘my child would never…’

one thing about kids, you just never know for sure…

 
 

“We believe that Fred Phelps is obligated to believe that his mother is now gay in the afterlife,” he said. “Further, if beliefs are inviolable rights, nobody has the right to challenge our right to believe that Fred Phelps believes that his mother is now gay.”

The Temple is encouraging other gay couples to visit Johnston’s grave and “pay their respects.”

As for the Westboro Baptist Church, a spokesperson for their congregation announced plans to picket the funeral of Glee star Cory Monteith, who died Saturday of a drug overdose.

i amend my earlier statement to be:

christians and satanists want to be taken seriously…

 
 

You know, I was at the tail end of the big post-war boom, a lot of the hopes of the Greatest Generation were invested in the older brothers and sisters of my personal age bracket. I guess the best way to put it was like this: When those kids brought LSD and pot home from college, we were the kids who got turned on by them, or raided their stash.
But anyway, I’ll never forget (well, I haven’t so far) an incident which seemed to crystallise the kind of expectations laid on those older kids. I was at a Bar Mitzvah reception when one of the more accomplished of my college-age cousins swept into the room, and I was sitting at a table with two aunts, one of whom didn’t recognise him: “Oy said the other, “That’s the B—–‘s oldest boy, a brocheh on him, post-grad work he’s doing at Columbia, a tennis champion, for a Senator he’s an intern, and you should hear him davenen!”

Anyway, I haven’t forgotten it, and it was a long, long time ago.

 
 

Great page from PRISM-Break: Opt out of PRISM.

I run every one of the Browser Extensions they recommend, and have been for the past 6 to 8 years, starting with Ad Block Pro and No Script.

And you’ll see a lot of my URLs include the “https” protocol prefix because I’ve been using HTTPS Everywhere for a couple of years now.

Thunderbird is on their list, also, too, btw.

 
 

What law would have prevented the tragedy? The one I’m advocating for is a complete and total handgun ban. Maybe phase it by first getting rid of this ridiculously stupid thing called concealed carry.

 
 

Coulter is nothing but a troll.

I used to believe she couldn’t possibly believe the vile shit she wrote, but now I’m not so sure…

 
 

If Zimmerman had been beaten up so badly, why wasn’t he taken to the hospital on the night he shot Martin?

 
 

“committed the first (and only) crime that night by assaulting Zimmerman.”

Well, if Zimmerman had called the cops, had Trayvon charged with assault and convicted, you might have a point.

 
 

(And please stop talking about Martin’s “hoodie”! Zimmerman wasn’t worried about the hoodie; he was worried about being beaten to death.)

oh…so that’s why he first followed trayvon around in his car and THEN got out and followed him on foot…because he was worried about being beaten to death…in his car…talking to dispatch…who told him to not follow martin…it’s all so clear to me now! thanks ann coulter! i guess you aren’t a totally useless bile filled bint after all!

 
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Wash me on the Kitten Setting!

 
 

++ for ‘bint’.

 
 

it really is an under-used word, isn’t it?

 
 

Wash me on the Kitten Setting!

Badgers working fine, here. They never tire.
.

 
 

Stand your ground laws are great except when black kids follow them.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Amazing how this crap about a “fight” between Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin has been so mainlined that the fact that Zimmerman’s “injuries” didn’t appear until several days later has been forgotten, as has his pristine condition the night he stalked and murdered Trayvon. We all saw the tapes at the time, but the MSM has shoved that down the memory hole and confabulated this new story to make the cold-blooded killer into an innocent victim—complete with pictures of the actual 17-year-old victim as a 32-year-old tattooed man they found on the internet.

 
 

“make an oreo baby with slanty eyes”

Must be very distressing for you to see the latest crop of singers, popular entertainer, fashion models and actors/actresses.

 
 

she shoots, she scores! i just happened to mention to hubbkf that i rilly did not feel like cooking dinner…we are going out for the best prime rib evah! now my choice is…do i splurge and have a potato? and if so, the american fries or freddies (real hashbrowns with onions & cheese)…oh the dilemma…

 
 

Who doesn’t love Oreos? Nobody, that’s who.

complete with pictures of the actual 17-year-old victim as a 32-year-old tattooed man they found on the internet.

I had to laugh when I saw that picture. Are people so face blind they thought that older rapper looked anything like Trayvon Martin?

 
 

Stand your ground laws are great except when blacks kids follow them

can’t forget marissa alexander…

 
 

I had to laugh when I saw that picture. Are people so face blind they thought that older rapper looked anything like Trayvon Martin?

well, i’ve heard they all look alike…

 
 

Mooser, I’dike to point out to this troll that:

The ancestors of some of those slanty-eyed people he hates(like my
great-grandmother were of a people who invented gunpowder, the compass, and a host of other inventions,

and

If identifies as “white”, his ancestors were probably scrambling for a living and living in mud huts or some other crude sort of abode at the time the above mentioned items were discovered.

 
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Kittenize me Captain!

 
 

You need to have a motherfucking baked potato with butter AND sour cream. Slather ithh butter, season liberally with s&p, top with scream. Snipped chives wouldn’t hurt neiver

 
 

You need to have a motherfucking baked potato with butter AND sour cream. Slather ithh butter, season liberally with s&p, top with scream. Snipped chives wouldn’t hurt neiver

I dunno, those hash browns with onions and cheese sound good.

 
 

I used to believe she couldn’t possibly believe the vile shit she wrote, but now I’m not so sure…

It doesn’t particularly matter–but it’s given me a tissue-thin excuse to post this Henry Rollins gem.

 
 

Yeah, I made the cover of the Rolling Stone!

(Rollin’ Stone…) Wanna see my picture on the cover
(Stone…) Wanna buy five copies for my mother…(Yes)
(Stone…) Wanna see my smilin’ face
On the cover of the Rollin’ Stone…(That’s a very very good idea)

I got a freaky ole lady name a cocaine Katy
Who embroiders on my jeans
I got my poor ole grey haired daddy
Drivin’ my limousine
Now it’s all decided to blow our minds
But our minds won’t really be blown
Like the blow that’ll gitcha when you get your picture
On the cover of the Rollin’ Stone

Oh, and also, kittens.

 
 

You need to have a motherfucking baked potato with butter AND sour cream.

I didn’t feel like cranking up the oven tonight because it’s freakin’ hot here.

I fired up one half of the grill, threw some yukon gold potatoes on the other half and closed the top.

Once they were soft inside I put them on the hot side for a couple minutes.

Cut them up, tossed with some garlic, parmesan cheese (the real stuff not that sawdust in the green plastic shaker), some crushed red pepper and olive oil.

They were surprisingly good.

 
 

“You need to have a motherfucking baked potato with butter AND sour cream.”

Concentrate on the prime rib, right down to the crackling. Then if there’s any room. Careful with appetisers, too. A good piece of boeuf is made better by a sharp appetite.
My ability to eat large amounts at one sitting, at one time one of my proudest acheivements, has sadly declined as of late. My wife once said that watching me get outside some gargantuan portion often made her wonder if Man was really the last word in Creation.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

“Yes, Winston, link to where we were once at war with Eastasia! How can we believe you when the archives clearly show we have always been at war with Eurasia? Memory hole? What’s a memory hole? What do you mean I should just remember for myself?”

 
 

I don’t know how to use Google.

 
The Dark God of Time, AKA DA
 

Major, have you ever tried making baked potatoes in the microwave? You just wrap them in saran wrap, and it takes about 3-4 minutes per potato, exact time depending on the wattage and size of the potatoes. Try it, you’ll like it!

 
 

I broiled squashes for dinner. We seem to have a lot of it on hand. It was so-so. I’ve had great sucess with it on the grill, planked, brushing it with butter and/oil and salt/pepper then closing the grill and baking it in there till it’s nearly dry, flavor gets real concentrated. Under the broiler, it’s pretty mediocre. But I had to try.
Nerxt year, I won’t let it get to this. I’m going to look up lots of ways to cook squash blossoms, dearie.

 
 

I got it:

ABC’s Matt Gutman said the network re-digitized the video to reveal what appears to be “a pair of gashes or welts” on the back of Zimmerman’s head. This discovery is more consistent with Zimmerman’s account of what happened the night of Feb. 26. According to a police report first described by the Orlando Sentinel, Zimmerman told investigators that Martin jumped him from behind, punched him in the nose and pounded his head into the sidewalk.

The enhanced video complicates an already complex narrative of what really took place that evening amid shifting public perception of both Zimmerman and Martin.

During an interview on “The Today Show,” Craig Sonner, Zimmerman’s lawyer, said the video was “too grainy” to show the injuries his client claimed he sustained in his fight with Martin. However, the funeral director who handled the body of the slain teen told Nancy Grace there were no cuts, bruises or signs of a fight on Martin’s body.

“I didn’t see any evidence he had been fighting anybody,” Richard Kurtz of Roy Mizell and Kurtz Funeral Home in Fort Lauderdale told the television talk show host.

Teach says, find the video itself for extra credit.

If you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Life moved very fast.

 
 

He puts the ‘Oh my Gawd!!’ in “odious”. And the ‘ick’ in “pathetic”.

 
 

I can’t believe Henry Rollins spent that much time — even for comedic pruposes — thinking about being in Coulter’s presence at length, let alone sleeping with her. I can see he enjoyed setting forth the conditions of the deal, but he’d still lose, because she’d be there.

 
 

You wanted the video, and you’re still bitching.

It must suck to be you.

 
 

Oh, BTW, St Ektarina, I like the blog!

 
 

Oh, no, I might’ve tried to blame troll A for troll Bs’ work. How can I hold up my head around here ever again?

I knew it wasn’t you, Dennis. And Cerb should publish the ISP logs with the comments so that she can demonstrate if she’s telling the truth or not. You’d want that, wouldn’t you, you twisted psycho weasel?

Also, kittens.

 
 

Thanks for reminding me.

 
 

No no more, fuck that Saran shit. Wash the spuds then just toss em in the number for 5 – 7 minutes for one, 6 – 0 for two … THEN pop em in a 500 fucking degree oven for 10 minutes to crisp up.

 
 

You were right Pup, Thanks. And about the potatos, too.

 
 

I know I’m prolly late for dinner, but why can’t you put the onions and cheese on the baked potato with the butter and sour cream? I’ve been known to do that and then just eat the toppings and leave most of the potato for the doggie bag, and then do it again with the “skins” for lunch the next day.

Many good steak/prime rib houses will have a cheese sauce of some kind. I remember the Metro Grill in Seattle had a beer and cheese sauce that was killer but I haven’t been there in two decades…

Also, too: Hasslebacks. I dated a girl who made these by the thousands for local festivals… they were so popular she couldn’t keep up with demand on some weekends.

 
 

I like the microwaved ones because the skin peels off and you have 100% potato without any waste.

I’ll have to try that crisping technique when the weather here gets cooler, like around Halloween.

 
 

Microwaved baked potatoes and ranch dressing packets swiped from the student union were a staple of mine in college. Some weeks I’d eat two a day, lunch and dinner, for days on end. Pup’s right – just throw ’em in the oven after washing. Poke a few holes in ’em if the microwave is a really powerful one.

I swore that once I graduated, I’d eat only true baked potatoes for the rest of my life.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

When I was in grade school—this was long before microwaves, remember—the school lunches would feature what they called “baked potato” that was undoubtedly boiled to cook through, and then at the last minute deep fried so as to create a 1/8″ crust the texture of canned shoestring potatoes, and cut in half.

That was a lot better than the usual restaurant dodge of boil-a-potato-and-wrap-it-in-foil-then-when-somebody-orders-one-stick-it-in-the-oven-for-a-few-minutes.

 
 

I like the microwaved ones because the skin peels off and you have 100% potato without any waste.

The skin’s the best part. No way I’m throwing that out.

 
 

Oh well. Cold leftover fried chicken and a beer for bughunter and pizza rolls for the mini bug tonite. Mrs bug got free tix to Herp Alpert at the Hollywood Bowl and took her mom.

Hrmph.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Imagine being so blinded by ideology that someone shows you the before and after and you just go “Lalalala I can’t hear you!”

Seriously, it reminds me of Scientologists who continue to believe even though we have documentation of every detail of Ron’s making it up, complete with cynical pontification on how “inventing a religion is where the money is”.

 
 

The skin’s the best part.

Roger that. Especially on a good russet baking potato that’s been cooked thoroughly. Mix up the innards with the goodies, and when that and the steak are gone, eat the skins like another steak.

Add A1 or Heinz if you like… the skins abide.

 
 

Don’t have to Imagine it, Rev. It’s on Fox News every fucking day.

From Trayvon Martin to Trickle Down Economics to the War on Drugs (and now Terra), it’s continuous.

 
 

More potato:

Sometimes it’s impossible to find a good baking potato at a decent price, what with the Yukon Gold being all the rage now, and the big baking russets being priced like meat ferchrissakes.

So I’ll just go get a 5 lb bag of average sized russets or even Yukon Golds, and after scrubbing well, dice them about 2″ square and toss in a lascivious olive oil drizzle, just shy of a bath really, with a few rosemary needles and black pepper. Let marinate like that for 30 min tossing again occasionally, and then bake them well spaced on a cookie sheet at 425F for 15-20 min. stirring once halfway thru, until they’re crispy on the outside and creamy on the inside. Salt while hot. Great with steak, seafood, pork or chicken.

Got that recipe from Alice Waters’ mouth to my ear at a Book Festival years ago. It’s a go-to potato side dish. Works with any root vegetable – especially good with beets, but substitute a dash of cumin or curry powder for the rosemary.

 
 

No, I’d just like her not to lie about it, that’s all. Pretty ridiculous contention.

Yeah, it’s like she’s selling the Brooklyn Bridge to us or something.

I’m sorry, troll, but I don’t care about your hurt fee-fees. I doubt anyone here believes you anyway, but keep crying wolf, it makes you seem so credible.

 
 

Great. Now I have fried chicken grease on my keyboard.

 
 

My mother was very fond of just the skins from baked potatoes (long before “skins” hit trendy bars and eateries). She was hypoglycemic, so carbs were not her friend.

 
 

well, in the end i went with the american fries because i can have the baked with b & sc just about any night…and i just sliced up the leftover taters last night, so i knew we had them…and omg…the prime was heavenly!!!

also, too…yes, bakes must always be baked in an oven and subjected to high heat at the end to make crispy skin…which should be eaten after you’ve eaten the innards…

and those hasselbecks? looks like nirvana to me…

 
 

My mother was very fond of just the skins from baked potatoes (long before “skins” hit trendy bars and eateries). She was hypoglycemic, so carbs were not her friend.

hey…i should give that a whirl…hubbkf hates the skins…so he can have the innards, i’ll eat the skins…good call!

we also stopped at hubbkf’s ‘rents house…and had homemade chocolate cake…i am truly the worst diabetic ever…

 
 

This was fun to watch.

So sad that Liz Warren is such a rare specimen. The cynic in me is still amazed she’s succeeded as far as she has. The idealist that begat the cynic predicts she ain’t done yet, far from it.

Warren/Clinton ’16!

 
 

Hey, Obama came out of nowhere to become POTUS because people wanted someone different from the same old beltway insider. (Boy did they get fooled.)

Why not Elizabeth Warren?

 
 

Warren is one of a very few pols that makes me want to donate more. (I have given a pittance to her on several occasions.)

That was a nice clip, Bughunter. Not unrepresentative, though — she’s always good. Not radical, though I’m sure she passes for some sort of Hitler/Stalin hybrid on our dickcheese-addled right. She’s electable, trustworthy, and immensely capable and intelligent.

 
Dennis Dickcheese
 

Please, I’m not the one who told the Right-Wingnutteria that Obama was a Socialist born in Kenya. That was my sister, Rebecca Rotball.

 
Dennis Dickcheese
 

I love you too, Tom.

 
 

Boy did they get fooled.

Thinking about this some more, the same sentiment elected Dubya. Gore was an ‘insider,’ after all… doesn’t seem like one now but back then he was the incumbent VP.

Boy did they get fooled.

(shit… I’m detecting a pattern.)

 
 

Not implying anything about Warren, though. Only historical insight.

 
 

same sentiment elected Dubya

Err… that and a fucking supreme court BOHICA.

 
 

I sure wish the badgers danced on Safari…

 
 

Imma put bug jr. to bed now and then go have a wank in the shower, American Beauty style, before retiring.

Manana, amigos.

 
 

Imma put bug jr. to bed now and then go have a wank in the shower, American Beauty style, before retiring.

I must be getting old … I noticed I think about it more than I follow through.

 
 

Warren / Clinton ?

Shee-it. I’m far more qualified to be Elizabeth Warren’s Veep.

Spitzer had enemies not because of his sex life, but because of the hard-line approach he took toward financial institutions beginning in 1998 as New York’s attorney general. He turned a position that, for years, was not particularly forceful into one that frightened Wall Street and held companies accountable for corruption that had been largely ignored or settled with meager plea deals.

Yeah. Like that.

 
 

CRA, I just woke up and saw your comment about crack not being our drug of choice. You’re quite right – I made an oopsie in translation. Our local problem is tik – I thought it was crack, turns out I mean crystal meth which is not the same thing at all.
My mistake – sorry. So not an expert on today’s drugs.

 
Dennis Dickcheese
 

Yeah, I mean, they just have a link to the video I was whining about, how dare this goddamn insomniac take me seriously?

 
Rebecca Rotballs
 

Get ready for work, bro, I only made 4 bucks plying my avocation last night and we need the money. I’m sick and tired of only eating red beans and rice!

 
Herman Headcheese
 

Rebecca is right. Get to work, cousin, or you’ll be back working in the towel room of the YMCA like last year.

 
 

I never sleep.

 
 

I never sleep

 
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Kitten!!

 
 

CRA, I just woke up and saw your comment about crack not being our drug of choice. You’re quite right – I made an oopsie in translation. Our local problem is tik – I thought it was crack, turns out I mean crystal meth which is not the same thing at all. My mistake – sorry. So not an expert on today’s drugs.–Suezboo

Heh, not a problem, good for you … Makes more sense now. I get the idea that speed (meth and suchlike) is manufactured in many parts of the world.

 
 

I thought it was crack, turns out I mean crystal meth which is not the same thing at all

Sounds like southern Ohio, which reminds me more of the movie Winter’s Bone every time I go down there.

 
The Dark God of Time, AKA DA
 

There’s a lot of meth made and used in the San Joaquin Valley. There was one article about it where this ‘cook’ was making meth using hydrochloric gas. Not acid, which is HCl in water, but gas, in a pressurized tank. You seen in the crime blotter here people being arrested for being under the influence of a ‘controlled substance’. That means meth.

Oh well, at least we don’t have the Bulldog gangs like they do in Fresno.

 
 

zimmerman submitted without comment..

 
 

it strikes me that e. warren can do much more good right where she’s at…seems like once somebody succumbs to the presidentship, their hands are tied…although a warren/clinton ticket would be a strong force to reckon with…

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

although a warren/clinton ticket would be a strong force to reckon with…

It would be amusing if the Democrats did it as a cynical ploy to get the “women’s vote”—and it worked!—as opposed to the Palin fiasco.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

And thanks for digging up that murder-night footage, bbkf. A cursory search had let me to believe all the undoctored tapes had been disappeared.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

“let” me to believe. Moar coffee, please!

 
 

There’s a lot of meth made and used in the San Joaquin Valley.

The last time I was at Beale AFB they told us that Marysville/Yuba City was the meth capitol of Northern California.

 
 

Sounds like southern Ohio, which reminds me more of the movie Winter’s Bone every time I go down there.

Prescription pain meds (with or without meth). But hey, Purdue produced a lot of jobs while it was pushing a devastatingly addictive narcotic on the market so it would be an insult to the Free Market to suggest the execs should be buried under a prison.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Bullshit, asshole. Look at the fucking footage. There’s not a mark on the murdering bastard. Not a fucking mark. Doctored tapes with “injuries” from a “fight” came days later. FOADIAF, you goddamn fucking murder-apologist asshole!

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

They “cleaned up” the murdering bastard, before going to the police station, but they didn’t even put a band-aid on any of these life-threatening head injuries that made him “fear for his life?” You must think we’re as fucking stupid as you and the cracker-ass jurors.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Head injuries, like the ones you might get if someone were for example, punching you in the face and smashing your head on a sidewalk, bleed. They bleed like crazy. Even if the police magically stopped all of the bleeding, eliminated the swelling and used makeup to cover the cuts and bruises and abrasions, the top half of Zimmerman’s shirt would have looked like he mopped up a slaughterhouse with it.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

There’s not a fucking mark on him. Not a fucking mark. These life-threatening head injuries didn’t even need a band-aid? Stop posting doctored photos from days later. There was no fucking fight. Zimmerman decided to kill himself a nigger. Being the coward he is, he picked out an unarmed teenager, stalked him, hunted him down, and shot him in cold blood. No amount of made-up stories and doctored photos from days later can change those simple facts. I have a fucking memory. I saw him in the original tapes, completely unmarked, before the doctored images you keep pushing were concocted.

 
 

And thanks for digging up that murder-night footage, bbkf. A cursory search had let me to believe all the undoctored tapes had been disappeared.

actually, i just happened to be on fb at the right time…friend shared it…also has a petition to sign…

 
The Dark God of Time, AKA DA
 

In this section of California, it’s Fresno. The city has(or had) one of the highest rates of car theft in California. Often a meth addict will let someone use their car in return for some powder.

Yeah, a lawyer thinks a couple of small lacerations that are really bloody because they weren’t cleaned up are serious injuries

 
 

But you know more based on grainy footage taken after he was cleaned up.

The ME said that the injuries were inconsistent with Zimmermans’ head being slammed more than once to the ground. That the jury didn’t take that into account is something to be ashamed of, not celebrated by fifth-rate assholes like you.

But you know more about it than an ME. Where did you get your M. D., troll?

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Conspiracy theory your fucking ass! These “head wounds” didn’t even need a band-aid, but they justified deadly force? I don’t fucking care what kinds of lies the jurors were told. I am fully aware that the images had been doctored and the new ones had become the official story before the trial, but I have a memory! There was not a mark on him the night of the murder. You can see that for yourself. You are a lying sack of murder-apologist, racist, fascist, motherfucking asshole shit, and I would take great delight in seeing you roasted over a slow fire.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

You are a piece of shit, Dennis. Why don’t you switch to your “Justiceisserved: nym and tell us again what a great victory this was for white people everywhere. There was no fucking fight. Period.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Well, my troll-feeding for the day is over—I’ve got to go out in the heat. Feel free to 86 my replies along with the sputum that provoked them.

 
 

Basing her observations on photos. Admitting her interpretations based in photos were not conclusive in any way, about the severity or number of times his head could’ve struck the pavement

But they weren’t just based on the photographs, TurdBoy.

The individual who examined him and treated Mr. Zimmerman told him sutures were not required,” Rao said. “She put a BandAid on each of them, and that was the extent of the treatment.”

No stitches required. Tell us again, that Zimmerman’s wounds were ‘severe’.

 
 

All six jurors and the alternate were unswayed by any testimony presented by the prosecution as to the insignificance of Zimmerman’s injuries or his beliefs after sustaining those injuries that his life was being threatened.

could be because the jury looked like this

i don’t know why, but that image just tickles me funneh bone…

 
 

There was no fight where Zimmermans’ head was repeatedly smashed into the concrete. That kind of fight doesn’t result in two lacerations that can be treated with BandAids. And yes, there was a lot of blood. I’ve gotten the same amount of blood from a laceration caused by a sharp edge of paper, it doesn’t mean sustained serious damage from a knife or other sharp implement.

 
 

Also on Tuesday, the jury heard a redacted version of an interview Zimmerman gave with Fox News television host Sean Hannity last year. In the interview, Zimmerman said he didn’t regret getting out of his car or having his gun with him the evening of the altercation. “I feel it was all God’s plan,” Zimmerman said in the interview.

now that is just plain messed up…

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

Goodness, this really is a dada trollfest. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

“I feel it was all God’s plan,” Zimmerman said in the interview.

So a god that demands the murder of children? Kali? Shiva? Loki? Moloch? Baal? Jehovah said he stopped doing that after the whole Abraham/Isaac thing but I’m not sure I trust him. In any case, it would be a murderous and savage god that would ask his or her followers to stalk and kill children.

 
 

You know, how about a change of topic? I have the cutest idea ever for my Halloween cards. I want to take a ginormous punkin and cut the top off and them I’m going to put my four little kittens, Snoogums, Oogums, Woogums, and Montressor, into the punkin and take a whole lotta pictures of it. It’ll be the cutest thing ever!

 
 

Just a little point for Dennis, as well as our decades-long returning Troof-fully disturbed individual; I know you want to believe that when your posts get censored, it will look like you’ve created havoc here, but the reality is, because you’re posting so obsessively throughout the day and night, usually one or two of your institutionalised rantings will not yet have been deleted, so people get to see what you’re both really like. Even if the people you are attacking are themselves freaks of the worst kind, your own behaviour and posting is so violently out of the normal you discredit yourselves beyond the point of being able to influence anyone’s thoughts.

And secondly, neither of you understand basic human interactions, do you? Because you see, people will automatically take the word of someone within their in-group, or who they feel has more social respect or status when they are seeking opinions… in this case, you’re on a liberal blog so they’ll automatically believe that, even where you and someone here are both equally mentally damaged, because the people you attack are liberals, they are still a tiny bit better a person than you. You end up reinforcing their beliefs, not damaging them, because they come to see being liberal as a saving grace.

When you have nothing beautiful, nothing wise, nothing decent to say… people will always feel better about someone who at least tells them they they agree with you. For all your antics, you can’t even manage to give that. So I pity you.

 
 

You know, how about a change of topic? I have the cutest idea ever for my Halloween cards.

DA, you chose the wrong horse to hitch your wagon to. Reverend Battleaxe sounded convincing to you about the made-up injury theory, so you scrambled to Google it for him. All you had to do was follow the trial or read about it, them you wouldn’t have had to look ridiculous right now admitting your ignorance by resorting to your kitten thing. When you’re a dog guy to begin with.

You still on board with the ‘there was no fight’ theory?

 
 

could be because the jury looked like this

Some of those heads are freakishly small, which just makes it funnier.

 
 

“I feel it was all God’s plan,” Zimmerman said in the interview.

Man, God is an asshole.

 
 

I made the most wonderful pie the other day. A S’MORES PIE!!!!!!! It had a graham-cracker crust and a chocolate filling. I topped it off with marshmallows, but I wanted to get that crispy campfire thingie going on. I thought and I thought and I thought, and then it hit me…..

PUT IT UNDER THE BROILER!!!!

 
 

Here’s a question for the ladies. How do you control that sweaty underboob effect? I have a set of moobs that would be the envy of a stripper, and I just tend to get really sweaty on hot summer days. Is there some sort of absorbent garment I could wear to prevent my moob sweat?

 
 

Man, God is an asshole.

I played in a bar band once that did ‘God is a Bullet’ every night but, really, you’re right.

 
 

I’m starting to wonder if I’m going to wake up some morning with an irresistable desire to feed trolls.

 
 

Justice was not served. No one in an official capacity seemed interested in serving it. No one whose fucking job it was. That’s what pisses me off even more. Yea, the murder was an atrocious crime. But it didn’t stop there.

The only silver lining is that it’s another nail in the coffin of the right wing. Another torpedo below the waterline of a sinking ship. They’re going down even faster now.

 
 

dammit! nymfail again.

 
 

Man, God is an asshole.

i have been contending this for awhile now…it especially hit me when tim tebow was all ‘god made me win this game!’…well, any celebrity/sports person who claims this sort of thing…a god who has more interest in helping athletes win games or celebrities nail a performance to enhance their status and/or pocketbooks yet is the guiding force behind organizations that convince people that their prayers or his own saving grace will bring children out of starvation, poverty or abuse seriously has its priorites way the fuck out of whack and is indeed, a humongous asshole…

 
 

you know what i like best about trolls? is that they always seem to know how group x (usually liberals) feel or think or have done at any given moment…in that case, i wish dennis would tell me where i left my favorite lipstick since he seems to know so much about us…

 
 

Justice was not served.

Justice was pwned.

 
 

“I feel it was all God’s plan,” Zimmerman said in the interview.

I knew he worked in mysterious ways but I never would have imagined.

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. – Susan B. Anthony

 
 

Justice was pwned.

justice became the wingnutz bitch…

 
 

make your moobs perkier…that’s what i do…except mine are moobs…they are a mighty fine rack…

 
 

Great quote, Major. Right up there with Clemens’.

 
 

I hear the m/boob sweat issue is helped with talc, though I believe someone here referred to the inevitable outcome as “making your own gravy.”

 
 

I hereby sincerely request the troll droppings be left right where they are.

 
 

The fact is, libraries are now footsoldiers in the Obama march to socialism:

http://www.ala.org/news/press-releases/2013/07/ala-president-releases-statement-libraries-and-affordable-care-act

 
 

Sorry, Dennis, wrong suspect, but it does provide a certain amount of insight that your fear of any sort of emasculation, from me or another source, sends you into a paranoid rage.

Cool down, man, you’re on a monstrous, hateful librul snark blog.

 
 

Eww.

right? although i guess i now have tigris to thank for helping me kick my gravy addiction…

 
The Dark God of Time, AKA DA
 

Don’t know about the vitamin/minerals in a potato skin, but I’m sure they’re good for roughage and phytochemicals that are useful to the human organism.

 
Dennis Dickcheese
 

Will someone please call the WAAAAAAAAAAAHMBULANCE for me?

 
 

The fact is, libraries are now footsoldiers in the Obama march to socialism:

Unlike the good old days, when borrowing a shared copy of a book for free was all about the capitalism.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Anyone who makes a hero of Zimmerman really deserves the title “gun nut.”

Even if you think Zimmerman has a legitimate self-defence claim, the whole situation is incredibly stupid, irresponsible and completely his fault. In short, he’s a shitty neighbourhood watch poster boy, getting himself into a situation where he (according to his dubious story) was very nearly killed and had no one to help him. If Martin really was that dangerous, Zimmerman is damn lucky to be alive, since he was pinned down and having his head slammed, pretty amazing he could still get his gun.

I think this exemplifies that gun nuts really do hope for a chance to play hero and shoot some bad guy. It’s a collection of man-children defending someone who they know could easily have been them, because they all probably think Zimmerman acted reasonably through the whole scenario.

 
 

I hereby sincerely request the troll droppings be left right where they are.

I think CO may have a point. I don’t like seeing the slobber, because it’s just painful to see someone so badly in need of help, but I just whizz past the bad patches & don’t read ’em anyway.

 
 

The fact is, libraries are now footsoldiers in the Obama march to socialism:

And librarians are all about working cooperatively. Plus, with a few notable exceptions, librarians trend liberal. Probably has to do with having to empathize with people well enough to figure out what they’re really asking for. Having to have at least one Master’s degree doesn’t hurt, either.

 
 

I think this exemplifies that gun nuts really do hope for a chance to play hero and shoot some bad guy. It’s a collection of man-children defending someone who they know could easily have been them, because they all probably think Zimmerman acted reasonably through the whole scenario.

Yeah, they’re authoritarians with a racist streak who desperately want to be more important than they really are. The doomsday preppers are the same- Adam Lanza’s mom’s biggest fantasy had to have been shooting inner city folks who had somehow made their way to exurban Connecticut and had designs on her cans of Dinty Moore.

“Fear is the mind-killer”, Herbert had it right.

 
 

Probably has to do with having to empathize with people well enough to figure out what they’re really asking for.

And of course that’s all the letter said, that people will be asking for help and librarians need to be ready to give it in a useful but non-partisan way. Obama foot soldierin’! Also, Jazzy Wright is the best name ever.

 
 

A couple comments about Zimmerman:

“Enhanced” video
I remember seeing a show on the Dead Sea Scrolls, many of which exist as random shattered bits of parchment. They were talking about how nice it was to have the comouter machines to be able to virtually move the bits around to try and make a readable section (something that can only be done rarely and under carefully controlled circumstances IRL), but warning about taking it as gospel, as one of the people doing this said something to the effect that he could put the bits together to say “Kevin is great.” So I always take digital enhancements with a large boulder of salt. If the detail isn’t there to begin with, you’ll just have a bigger blurry area, into which you can only put your best guess or what you want to see, depending.

The use of magic wands guns as “self defense”
And I think someone upthread commented on the generally accepted (because the NRA and its minions have repeated it loudly and often enough) notion that a gun is some kind of magic wand that will save you from the possibility of harm. I mean, really! When did it become socially acceptable to kill someone because you think they might beat you up? Most people aren’t good enough at physical violence to be able to do you any real damage (assuming you’re able to get away or fight back yourself), and most martial arts/defensive training comes with “don’t be stupid” warnings.

 
 

Man, God is an asshole.

God, Man is an asshole.

 
 

God, Man is an asshole.

Yeah, but God made him that way. So we’re right back to:

Man, God is an asshole.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

A friend of mine callled Zimmerman Dwight Schrute and it really fits. That or Dale Gribble. Paranoid, angry and incompetent. Like so many gun nuts.

 
 

There’s enough assholery to go around. And around and around…

 
 

Wow, just realized I had an amazing linkfail. Don’t know where that came from. I’ll try again.
Man, God is an asshole.

 
 

Ok, no tag this time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZmsU3leT64

FYWP Twice over.

 
 

And of course that’s all the letter said, that people will be asking for help and librarians need to be ready to give it in a useful but non-partisan way. Obama foot soldierin’! Also, Jazzy Wright is the best name ever.

yes, jazzy wright is a pretty kick-ass name…but i just figured out why ‘socialism’ is soooooooooooo bad: it’s not about the ‘sharing’ aspect of it because look at corporate murika…they are perfectly willing to share amongst themselves…no, it’s about helping the poors…that’s what’s really, really unforgivable from a wingnut worldview…

 
 

There being no consequence for killing an unarmed child who wasn’t bothering anyone has to be in conflict with our nation’s moral compass or we have to admit that our moral compass is at best broken and at worst a convenient lie.”
One of the best things I read about the affair.

and

it’s not about the ‘sharing’ aspect of it because look at corporate murika…they are perfectly willing to share amongst themselves…no, it’s about helping the poors…that’s what’s really, really unforgivable from a wingnut worldview…

Bring to mind Colbert:

“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don’t want to do it.”

 
 

it’s about helping the poors

Helping the poors is immoral socialism and complaining about it is patriotic and fiscally responsible. Helping the rich is a good investment and complaining about it is envy and class warfare. Also poor people act like they’re owed, whereas rich people know they are.

 
 

Trayvon Martin: acting suspiciously because black / hoodie walking down sidewalk. And carrying a Big Gulp – now THAT’S acting suspiciously.

Zimmerman: stalking a boy in the dark. IOW, acting exactly like a creepy perverted gay rapist

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Gays are the real homophobes!

 
 

<i.“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don’t want to do it.”

ha! that’s right…i was listening from the other room when i heard this, but i lol’d and shouted, ‘amen, brutha!’ which caused some startlement among hubbkf and the dogs…

 
 

The Tragically Flip said,

July 18, 2013 at 19:14

i forgot to mention this earlier, but YES…

 
 

Now if poor people would act like they’re owned, perhaps by entering into some sort of contractual relationship with a rich person, that might be acceptable.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Now if poor people would act like they’re owned, perhaps by entering into some sort of contractual relationship with a rich person, that might be acceptable.

Well of course, because then shooting one of them would be damaging property and that would be treated with the utmost seriousness of the law. The owner would be entitled to compensation.

 
 

When did it become socially acceptable to kill someone because you think they might beat you up?

Around the same time it became acceptable policy for a cop to shoot someone because he felt “endangered.”

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Around the same time it became acceptable policy for a cop to shoot someone because he felt “endangered.”

So, like 20 minutes after the first policeman picked up a pistol *?

*or crossbow, or sling, or fist sized rock

 
 

When did it become socially acceptable to kill someone because you think they might beat you up?

Well, if somebody were trying to beat me up and I had a gun, I might shoot them. I sure as fuck wouldn’t follow them around and confront them first, though. There’s something fundamentally wrong when you can start shit and then claim self-defense for your mouth writing checks your ass can’t cash.

 
 

There’s something fundamentally wrong when you can start shit and then claim self-defense for your mouth writing checks your ass can’t cash.

in the words of the immortal arthur fonzarelli, ‘exactamundo’…i know there are those out there who are going to contradict this statement, as they did the other day, but it is one of the fundamentals of this case…and yes, my son knows this and i know this, so don’t even start with me…

 
 

There’s something fundamentally wrong when you can start shit and then claim self-defense for your mouth writing checks your ass can’t cash.

He should have shot himself out of shame and embarrassment for getting his ass kicked by a scrawny teenager.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

He should have shot himself out of shame and embarrassment for getting his ass kicked by a scrawny teenager.

Yeah—if Arthur Fonzarelli is immortal, so is Archie Campbell: “I don’t think I’d have told that!”

 
 

is there some sort of random trollism generator?

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

In the real world, there was no confrontation. A coward like Zimmerman would never have allowed Martin to approach him. He stalked and killed him with his penis substitute with no interaction whatsover.

In the fabricated world of Zimmerman’s ridiculous story, he allowed himself to be beaten up by a scrawny teenager.

You should separate your “Dennis” posts and your “Justiceisserved” posts at least slightly.

 
 

Yeah—if Arthur Fonzarelli is immortal, so is Archie Campbell: “I don’t think I’d have told that!”

well, i’ll be dipped…i had to google archie campbell…did not know that was he of hee haw fame…do you suppose his tombstone reads ‘pffft, i are gone?’

 
 

is there some sort of random trollism generator?

If there is, I suspect it involves monkeys flinging poo at a keyboard.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

It’s been confirmed that all your troll posts come from the same IP address, so give up pretending otherwise.

You’ve seen the pictures from the night of the murder, with not a hint of a scratch on the motherfucker. That’s all the proof any sane person would need that there was no fight. I don’t give a shit about pictures taken days later after the story changed.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

It’s almost like you guys just make stuff up up on the fly depending on the narrative you want to exploit.

Dear fucking god, it’s always projection with you fucknozzles! It’s you who turned Zimmerman into an honorary white man, because he shot a black teenager. If Trayvon Martin had been white, Zimmerman would have been an illegal alien greaser wetback. Don’t even try to deny it.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

It’s always hard to puzzle out if assholes like Dennis really believe the shit they spew, or if they’re just trying to get a rise out of everybody, but that last proves the latter. If Zimmerman had shot a white teenager just heading home to his father’s place with a bag of skittles and a can of iced tea, the right wing noise machine would have gone into top gear, John McCain would have told us his border fence had to be built even higher, and they would have called in Joe Arpaio to consult on how to check the papers of everybody in Florida who doesn’t sunburn when they open the refrigerator.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

You’re a lying sack of shit, Dennis. Both Cerb and Provider have confirmed that the entirety of this troll infestation comes from the same IP address.

There’s nothing so obvious that you won’t deny it is there? You see the videos of Zimmerman the night of the murder without a fucking mark on him, and yet somehow you manage to retain the belief that a few minutes before he was being beaten within an inch of his life by a skinny 17-year-old kid.

 
Dennis Dickcheese
 

Even a pckerwood like you, troll, should be aware that a fight or real struggle involving concrete would do more than leave two wounds that can be treated with BandAids on someone’s head.

I volunteered in the ER on Sundays when I was an undergrad, I’ve seen a woman with a stab wound to the eye(one of the blood runners, or sample techs, said, “She’s gonna get a glass eye”). I’ve kept the airway open of a man undergoing hypoglycemic convulsions due to binge drinking. I’ve ridden in an ambulance with a man who had a knife stuck in his back, removal of which you definitely shouldn’t try at home, folks.

You troll, know nothing. Dr. Doom is more qualified to talk about medical matters than you, and he’s a comic book character.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Jabber, jabber, jabber. Explain the fact that there wasn’t a mark on the motherfucker the night of the murder or shut the fuck up!

 
 

Hey battleaxe, how bout adding a St. to your nym so we don’t have to watch you play with trollz. Kthxbi.

 
 

Jabber, jabber, jabber.

That is all you’re ever going to get.

 
Dennis Dickcheese
 

35 years, troll, trying to dox me here because I won’t back down?

For shame, troll, for shame, especially since one of your many problems with me is that I’ve doxed trolls in the past.

Actually, you’re off by a year, so you can’t even do doxing correctly.

Have a good evening, troll.

 
 

Hello!
I have been reading your site for some time now and finally got the bravery to
go ahead and give you a shout out! Just wanted to say keep up the
fantastic work!

 
 

Why hello Mr or Ms Banking! Or may we call you Offshore?

 
 

That’s funny, but I like his wikicars.org user name: Newton Wym

Reminds me of Nilton Paz

 
The Comment Section
 

Help help!

 
 

Ok, no tag this time.

Not the Bears’ strongest effort. I’d never heard anything from this album, unless I heard something from it live a few years back at the reunion show they played at 3rd & Lindsley.
.

 
 

You should have stopped after your first sentence. To admit the fact that you paid almost no attention to the Zimmerman trial, yet then go and offer an uninformed opinion is a huge mistake on your part. Your last paragraph only goes on to reinforce even more how clueless you are about this case. Are you afraid of what you may have learned if you had actually paid attention to the trial? I am not trying to insult you. I just want to point out that you don’t have a clue about what you are talking about. I watched the trial and kept a neutral opinion until all the evidence was presented. It sounds like you on the other hand relied on news media reports which have been proven to be so disgracefully inaccurate that they resulted in at least one case with NBC news where Zimmerman and his attorneys have cause to sue them for slander/libel. If you don’t believe what I am saying, then how about the words of Dr. James David Manning, a prominent black pastor in New York city. Do a search on what he had to say on this case during one of his recent sermons and maybe your eyes will awaken to the fact that its not 1960 anymore. While I won’t try to argue that racism has been completely wiped out from this country, I also believe that every ethnicity will always have at least some issues with racism. Racism is far more rampant in other countries today than it is here. I see Asian and Indian racism in this country probably more than I see black and white racism, but I see black leaders like Rev. Jackson and Sharpton, who in reality are nothing more than leaches who use a noble cause to enrich themselves at others’ expense, and their followers cry wolf over and over again whenever a meaty opportunity arises. Heaven forbid that they ever run out of sensationalist news worthy cases that get them ever expanding coverage on the nightly news else their pockets run empty. So leading back to my original point, why don’t you spend a few hours actually looking at the facts of the case before making a ridiculous statement that I can now only describe as another example of crying wolf.

 
Dennis Dickcheese
 

And that’s not doxxing to say how many years ago you were in college. Sick fuck.

It’s okay if your a psycho badger, troll.

Someone should write a play about you: Long Days’ Journey Into Spite.

 
 

Dennis, I sure hope you’re getting paid for this somehow because you’re here a heck of a lot more than I am.

I mean, seriously, is this your job? If so, I think you might want to set your sights a bit higher. Trolling liberal blogs for $.05 a post (I think that’s the going rate) can’t be much of a living.

 
 

Excuse, please… must empty the badger bag.
.

 
 

I mean, heck, at $.05 a post you’d have to post something like 150 times an hour just to equal minimum wage.

That’s no way to make a living.

 
St. The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Hey Dennis/Justiceisserved:

We all get that you don’t like some guy who posts here. Needless to say we don’t believe a word you say about whatever the hell sins you think he’s committed, but set that aside for a moment.

What the fuck gives you the right to try to close down any blog he posts on? Start your own blog and ban him from it. That would be completely within your rights. What you’re doing is the most assholish thing I’ve ever witnessed on the innertubes.

And oh yeah, explain the fact that there wasn’t a mark on the murdering asshole Zimmerman the night of the murder or shut the fuck up!

 
 

Jim said,
July 19, 2013 at 2:16

An interesting post in a number of ways. You’re missing the point, however. Provider_UNE’s point, as I understand it, loses nothing from his admitting that he didn’t pay the closest of attention to the trial. You, Jim, are not alone in being afire with righteousness after having made what you judge to be a thorough, good-faith attempt at objectivity here. How offensive that Provider would set pen to paper, so to speak, without first demonstrating (or at least claiming) that he’d run the gauntlet of credibility! Could he really mean to expose himself as careless and indifferent?!

No, my friend. His piece — the one you quickly read and didn’t think much about — is largely about the concept of a high-tech lynching. By this, nobody means hanging someone with a kind of cyber-rope. It is an analogy, and to fully grasp it you’ll need to think even more about our post-modern media climate, racism as it exists here today, etc. You’ll need to practice different types of reading and reflection, ones I’m not yet convinced you’re prepared for. Best wishes to you in doing so.

 
 

Thanx buddy.

 
St. The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

So I take that as an admission that you can’t explain the fact that the murdering asshole Zimmerman didn’t have a mark on him the night of the murder. Good to know.

 
 

What the troll knows about medicine can fit into a fleas’ belly button, with enought room for a sesame seed and a conservatives’ heart.

 
St. The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Yes, Dennis, we know you think it’s “justice” that an armed adult can kill an unarmed teenage boy in cold blood for the crime of Walking While Black and get away with it. No need to keep repeating yourself.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Desanctifying for some food talk. I made chicken gumbo last night, because I had some chicken and some okra and not much else.

I hardly ever make gumbo, because cooking the roux is such a pain in the ass, but then I saw Bridget do something wonderful on America’s Test Kitchen. Just toast the flour for five minutes in your dry dutch oven. Whisk in the oil and you’ve already got a blond roux, then cover it and put it in a 350 degree oven for 45 minutes and voilà! You’ve got what Emeril would call a six-beer roux without standing around sweating into it for a couple of hours. Worked a treat.

 
 

No, hardly, but I wish I had a nickel for every time someone asked me if I was getting paid to do this.

If you’re not getting paid, then I suggest you look up the term “opportunity cost”.

 
St. The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Hey, Dennis/justiceisserved/ZimmyJUSTICE:

Fucking explain the fucking fact that the fucking murdering asshole Zimmerman didn’t fucking have a fucking mark on him the fucking night of the fucking murder. You’ve seen the videos. You claim to believe that he was being beaten within an inch of his life a few minutes before, enough to be life-threatening and justify deadly force, and yet, a few minutes later, not a fucking mark on him! Explain that or shut the fuck up!

 
 

Lots of us side with Battleaxe, of course. It’s dead obvious why we aren’t cheerleading or helping. And no, I won’t explain what I mean. Those who have fertile, healthy brains can play Devil’s Advocate well enough. You’re welcome to show your work, and if you’re lucky I’ll see it before it’s deleted. I won’t grade it, though.

 
 

What I know about medicine anything matters not at all in this case.

Tell me from a common sense perspective: How does a fight for ones’ life on a concrete sidewalk yield two small wounds that didn’t need stiches?

Notice how the troll isn’t responsive?

 
St. The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

There were no “pictures of Zimmerman’s contusions and blood on his head taken the night of the incident”. You’ve seen the videos of Zimmerman—completely unmarked—from the night of the “incident”. (That’s the “incident” where he stalked and killed an unarmed teenage boy.) Whatever pictures were taken after he thought he’d better come up with a story have no bearing on the situation.

 
 

And: who’s Cormac McCarthy? I haven’t checked. I have the dimmest of recollections. There’s a second piece I’m about the enjoy, in all likelihood, without really “getting it.”

 
 

I suggest you look up the term “opportunity cost”.

This.

 
 

I’m not kidding, Dennis, I’m simply secure in the things that I DO know.

Knowledge isn’t about regurgitating names. In fact it may be that I know things about this fellow’s work and context that completely elude you.

But please, spit out what little you know, or Google and report back. You’re lazy and unimaginative, so I won’t expect much.

 
 

Only you, DA would criticize me for not responding to a post at the exact time you hit the submit button.

That was the second time I brought up the question, albeit in a slightly different formulation.

But, hey, avoid the question yet again.

The time for arguing how severe Zimmerman’s head wounds are is past.

Which is why you were asking about the video of Zimmermans’ head, and now all of a sudden, it doesn’t matter.

You are a real piece of work, troll. Nobody is convinced, except of the fact that you’re a psycho conservative with anger management issues and an ego the size of AT&T Park.

Good night, troll, wouldn’t want to keep you up past your beddy-by time.

 
St. The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

After having been hit in the nose by surprise, pummeled MMA style on the ground and had his head bashed against the concrete

How do you imagine this happened without leaving the slightest hint of a mark on the night of the murder? You’ve seen the video. Not the slightest hint of a mark on him minutes after he’s “had his head bashed against the concrete”. Explain the video. You keep avoiding the documentary evidence.

 
 

Mr. McCarthy is a contemporary author of several books, some of which have been made into relatively famous movies. I would suggest the Wikipedia as a start, or you can use Google, he’s probably taught around the country at fine English and Literature departments.

Good night, Mrs. Calabash, where ever you are.

 
 

That explains it. I see very few movies, and I’m still working through older fiction. My priority is nonfiction of any era. My knowledge of contemporary fiction is really scattered. I’ll make a note of him.

 
 

Pretty easy to multitask with what I do, Major. And the laughs produce endorphins, which helps me too, so yeah, in that sense it does pay me, albeit indirectly. Laughter is a good thing, as long as no one takes anything too seriously, as no one should.

then why the fuck do you? and why do you slam others’ work schedules/habits/ethics when you readily admit that there are some jobs one can easily multitask at?

i am so fucking sick of you and da and your little feud…like it’s been mentioned before: get a room and leave the rest of us to our snarking…

 
 

get a room and leave the rest of us to our snarking

Or talking about cooking or cats or motorcycles or something! How long are you guys planning on beating this dead horse? Jeez! How much badwidth are we going to expend on this?

 
 

Major Kong said,

July 19, 2013 at 6:15

i know! i wish they would either just whip their peepees out and compare or go on dr. phil and make up…cripes…or at the very least, come up with some new insults…

anyhoo, what are you doing up so late?

 
 

I have a trip tomorrow night so I’m trying to get onto somewhat of a night schedule.

It’s hard to shift from days to nights and back.

 
 

It’s hard to shift from days to nights and back.

that it is! when i first started out in radio i had the 12a to 6a shift…and two little kids…one with special needs and adhd and one with just adhd…holy hellions, that wasn’t fun…especially since hubbkf was working days and i couldnt’ get a nap in and i would get myself so keyed up about not waking up in time to get to work before midnight that i virtually couldn’t sleep in the early evenings when i had the chance…then hubbkf became unemployed and i had the opportunity to pick up extra hours at the station…so i would work 12a-6a on the air…drive home 20 miles…go back later in the morning and run traffic and logs…sometimes pick up another airshift around 2pm…and then go back to the midnight thing…sucked balls, i will tell you…but at least i wasn’t wielding aircraft…just playing some incredibly bad ‘classic’ rock…

 
 

I’ll sleep in as late as I can tomorrow. Then I should be able to get a nap while jump-seating to work.

If all goes according to the schedule it’s only a one-hop from Memphis to Huntington WV. If we get in on time I can be in my hotel room and asleep by 6:30 AM.

 
 

well, sweet dreams to you, sir…whether in a bed or a jump seat…let me know the next time you are heading to sioux falls, eh?

 
 

It’s hard to shift from days to nights and back.

Don’t I know it. I find that a big beer night in between a stint of graveyards and a return to afternoon shifts works well, but I’m not handling a giant, sensitive piece of machinery that can kill scores of people if misused.

 
 

and why do you slam others’ work schedules/habits/ethics when you readily admit that there are some jobs one can easily multitask at?

Because he’s a shithead.

Tell you what. I stop posting here for a week, and we’ll see if any of the shithead troll(s) stop their activities.

After a while, Crocodile, and yes, the troll is going to say I’m running away. Right.

By popular demand of one person, hail and farewell.

 
 

Tell you what. I stop posting here for a week, and…

Sorry, not buyin’ it.

 
 

No kidding.

 
The Comment Section
 

Give me kittens or give me Moar Kittens!

 
 

well you slammed mine…

 
 

Looks like we can get this comment thread to 1000 before the end of the day… until the Zamboni comes to sweep those badgers off the ice.

 
 

Sorry folks been having too much fun driving the zamboni and what-not.

Jim, I really didn’t get to the meat of your argument that started with “you shouldn’t have finished” which means that I probably shouldn’t address you here…point taken…feel free to dismiss anything I have to say on any matter in the future, as the only expertise I will pretend is in relation to the subject of bicycles, oh, and, being not white.

To everyone else, I will try to cough up a more hilarious furball later this eve, If Cerb or Tintin, hasn’t beat me too it. In the mean time (and I know this to be difficult [totes guilty in the past, myself] please try to ignore the idiot in the meantime.)

xoxox

 
 

Sorry folks been having too much fun driving the zamboni and what-not.

And there was much rejoicing!

 
 

Driving the Zamboni sounds a bit rude.

 
 

I clean the skating rinks in the nude
Driving the Zamboni sounds a bit rude.

 
 

So either Kirk Cameron is lying and creating a controversy in order to get people talking about his movie, or Facebook has fixed the problem and has unmarked the website as “spammy.”

today’s waaaahmbulance moment

 
 

i let hubbkf drive my zamboni this morning…it was anything but rude…

 
 

Driving the Zamboni sounds a bit rude.

It does make it more slippery down there.

 
 

Sigh … I have a craving for a lavish diner breakfast, eaten while reading and slowly drinking coffee and ice water.

All I had to do was get my ass out of bed and it coulda happened, but now it’d make me late for work.

 
 

Sigh … I have a craving for a lavish diner breakfast, eaten while reading and slowly drinking coffee and ice water.

All I had to do was get my ass out of bed and it coulda happened, but now it’d make me late for work.

See if they’ll make you a bacon, egg, and home fries smoothie that you could drink in the car.

 
 

new one…

 
 

I had your diner breakfast; rösti potatoes, home cured ham and 2 over easy.

 
 

“Someone should write a play about you: Long Days’ Journey Into Spite.”

I knew there was a reason to come back and finish reading the thread! But really, shouldn’t it be ‘into that good spite’?

 
 

You know, Pup is right. Ignore him for a few minutes, and he’ll forget you ever existed. He ain’t got no persistence in his memory. But I can’t dali here, there’s a new thread!

 
 

I got a real kick out of this:

That was awesome, CRA. Thanks for the link.

Good to see SA still has it.

 
 

I paid very little attention to the trial of George Zimmerman.

Of course not, because the facts disclosed at trial interfere with the opportunity to whip up some racial animosity.

Professor Carol Swain (Vanderbilt Law School) summed it up well when she said, “Our legal system worked the way it was supposed to work, and there are many facts about the case that’s not being discussed in the media because it doesn’t fit with the race agenda.”

 
 

Our legal system worked the way it was supposed to work

Even if this were the case, there are more facts than are raised, useful, or admissible in court. While defenders of the verdict are eager to smack down anybody who, for example, introduces concepts that Zimmerman’s prosecutors could not (or failed to) exploit, verdict defenders are never satisfied with limiting their subjective observations to the narrow, legalistic scope they demand of others.

You, for example: you’re happy to condemn supposed whipping-up of racial animosity, complain about facts not discussed in the mainstream media, etc. — things that supposedly had no place in the trial that you are so satisfied with. Shut up, then, if you’re so insistent on facts, or the court’s findings, and nothing else. But you aren’t.

Go ahead, have it both ways. For my part I understand that being a citizen, a decent human being, involves a great deal more than gaming a deeply flawed legal system and then acting shocked and righteous when people insist on discussing morality outside flimsy, conveniently-shifting goal posts. Social life will remain inter-subjective, even if we somehow miraculously agree on the facts. The real debate, after facts are suitably determined, is something you desperately hope to avoid.

 
 

there are more facts than are … admissible in court

And why would that be relevant? You seem to think there is better way to achieve justice than trial by jury. Trial by politburo?

things that supposedly had no place in the trial

I made no mention of such. Are you having trouble with reading comprehension, or do you just love straw men?

you desperately hope to avoid

Yes, comrade, one can definitely glean such motivation from my terse comment. Uh huh …

 
 

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