Well, it makes sense. Kids attending any program that is aimed to make them smarter, should use the absolute 0 of intelligence (the republican party) as a control group.

If the kids won’t know more then your average republican, the program should be canceled as useless.

The purpose of the link is that anyone reading the New York Times and worrying about socialist programs like Head Start obviously need to be re-directed to the Republican Party before they destroy America with their egghead thinky type lower class children.

Oops, New York Post, but still, you shouldn’t be thinking that kids can be made smarter by education. True knowledge is gained by owning a small business and shouting angrily about how big government is at town council meetings.

Shouldn’t that be “out-of-control group”?

Control Group is the ones in the experiment that got ripped off and were fed the placebo.

Isn’t that the friggin’ point of Head Start?

Head Start bad! Socizalizm!

YAWN.

Shorter Conservative:

“The pie is shrinking! The pie is shrinking!”

**Grabgrabgrab**

Shorter NY Post:

“Hahhahahahaha! Where is your so-called GOVERNMENT now, puny liberals!?”

You know what’s wrong with that story? They didn’t make the photo large and scary enough.

The actual study referenced by the CATO Institute’s Coulson can be found here.

Coulson says this about the results:

The bad news came in the study released this month: It found that, by the end of the first grade, children who attended Head Start are essentially indistinguishable from a control group of students who didn’t.

…not a single one of the 114 tests administered to first graders — of academics, socio-emotional development, health care/health status and parenting practice — showed a reliable, statistically significant effect from participating in Head Start.

Here is how the study defined “control group”:

Children who were placed in the control or comparison group were allowed to enroll in other non-parental care or non-Head Start child care or programs selected by their parents. They could remain at home in parent care, or enroll in a child care or preschool program.

Consequently, the impact of Head Start was determined by a comparison to a mixture of alternative care settings rather than against a situation in which children were artificially prevented from obtaining child care or early education programs outside of their home.

Approximately 60 percent of the control group children participated in child care or early education programs during the first year of the study, with 13.8 percent of the 4-year-olds in the control group and 17.8 percent of the 3-year-olds in the control group finding their way into Head Start during this year.

Preventing families from seeking out alternative care or programs for their children is both infeasible and unethical. The design used here answers the policy question, i.e., how well does Head Start do when compared against what else low income children could receive in the absence of the program in fall 2002.

Here is how the study describes its findings:

Providing access to Head Start has a positive impact on children‘s preschool experiences. There are statistically significant differences between the Head Start group and the control group on every measure of children‘s preschool experiences measured in this study..

Access to Head Start has positive impacts on several aspects of children‘s school readiness during their time in the program…

…However, the advantages children gained during their Head Start and age 4 years yielded only a few statistically significant differences in outcomes at the end of 1st grade for the sample as a whole. Impacts at the end of kindergarten were scattered and are mentioned below only when they appear to be related to the 1st grade impacts.

…Providing access to Head Start increases the likelihood that low-income children will be enrolled in a center-based early childhood program (including center-based Head Start, preschool, and child care). Specifically, Head Start group children5 were twice as likely as control group children to use a center-based program in spring 2003.

Conversely, control group children were substantially more likely than Head Start group children to be exclusively in parent care6 in spring 2003. Among children in the 3-year-old cohort, 38.4 percent of control group children were in parent care as compared to only 6.7 percent of children in the Head Start group; among children in the 4-year-old cohort, the figures were 39.7 and 9.1 percent, respectively (see Exhibit 1).

…Providing access to Head Start had a positive impact on children‘s exposure to high-quality early care and education environments. Specifically, there are statistically significant differences between the Head Start group and the control group on every aspect of children‘s early care experiences measured in this study. These effects were found both for the 4-year-old cohort and for the 3-year-old cohort during the spring of the first year of study. The measures that were examined included, among others, teacher qualifications, including their training and education; classroom literacy and math instructional activities; classroom teacher-child ratios; the nature of teacher-child interactions; and global measures of the care environment as measured by the Early Childhood Environment Rating Scale-Revised (ECERS-R) and the Family Day Care Rating Scale (FDCRS) scores…

…This study evaluated the Head Start program against a mixture of alternative care settings rather than against a ?no services? condition. About 40 percent of the control group did not receive formal preschool education and, for those who did, quality was generally lower than in Head Start. Nevertheless, many of the control group children did receive services.

Further, among those who participated in non-parental care, the control group children were actually in non-parental care for more hours than the Head Start group—on average, children in the control group attended some type of non-parental care about four to five hours more per week in the Head Start year.

Consequently, to achieve measurable impacts, Head Start (as noted above) has to outperform what children would receive in the absence of the program‘s availability. Improved child care and pre-K standards across the nation may have contributed to the lack of significant differences found between the Head Start and control group children.

I may be wrong, but I always thought that the strongest argument for Head Start was not that it was better than other and similar pre-school educational support programs, but that it was available when and where a lot of people had no other such options for their kids.

I’m sure studies might find that the elderly would be not greatly better off by receiving Social Security retirement pensions than they would from very similar private pensions (assuming they didn’t fail or vanish), but, then, that wasn’t the problem being addressed by Social Security in the first place, at least among its backers observing the effects of poverty on elderly who had no equivalent pension funds.

Republican control group?What they really mean is a flock of sheep!

Good find, El Cid. In fact, after reading the study’s findings, it seems to me that the point is that kindergarten and first grade need to be upgraded. They aren’t providing environments as good as Head Start.

Also, I will never understand the desire to pick on childrens’ programs. Can’t they go find waste in the defense department. Then they could claim they’re Keeping America Safe.

El Cid, that was a refreshing analysis, but you could have stopped right here:

The actual study referenced by the CATO Institute’s Coulson

If it’s the CATO institute pushing an idea or a study, I make the simple judgment that it’s factually or methodologically a giant heap of dog shit. This is always a safe and correct guess, because CATO’s ideological blinders make it physically, morally, and existentially impossible to get one damn thing right.

Or in other words, if it’s a position that CATO has taken, I know immediately to take the opposite position and I will be correct. I’ve never seen those clowns even TRY to stick to the facts on an issue.

Also, I will never understand the desire to pick on childrens’ programs. Can’t they go find waste in the defense department.

The Libertarians have a big blind spot when it comes to the Pentagon. I guess it’s part of the Libertarian techno-fetishism and the need for cool toys.

Poor kids, on the other had, don’t go *voom* and blow stuff up, and are totally useless in our modern cyberpunk go-go future world. So they get the shaft.

If it’s the CATO institute pushing an idea or a study

Careful there. Some of Cato is glibertarian douchebaggery, but there are some good parts too… they retained Glennzilla to do a drug decriminalization study, with quite excellent results.

Poor kids, on the other had, don’t go *voom* and blow stuff up, and are totally useless in our modern cyberpunk go-go future world. So they get the shaft.

Good point. Who was pointing out that the poor would make a good organ bank? McMegan?

Here’s the interesting tidbit in the article:

Some advocates of the program have acknowledged these dramatic results, but suggest that it’s not necessarily Head Start’s fault if its effects vanish during kindergarten and the first grade — perhaps our K-12 schools are to blame.

Now, after thirty years of GOP attempts to dismantle the Department of Education, you’d think that the conclusion should be, “Don’t touch Head Start, which earlier studies proved worked fine. Instead, let’s drop the whole ‘No Child left Behind’ sham and work at improving our schools”

But nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooo!!!!

Poor kids, on the other had, don’t go *voom* and blow stuff up

They do in the Middle East!

LD is right, its not a mistake. The researchers were most likely following ethics guidelines that would say its wrong to withhold education from low-income children for the purposes of the study. So they needed to find a control group that was as similar as possible to a bunch of poorly-prepared first graders.

Then they could claim they’re Keeping America Safe.

Apparently, they are more interested in Keeping America Stupid. Looking out for their electoral health, and all.

they retained Glennzilla to do a drug decriminalization study, with quite excellent results.

I also remember a terrorism analysis from them during the Bush years that stated the obvious: in terms of the causes of terrorism, the impact of all that religious and economic shit is minuscule compared with impact of having foreign troops on your land.

But, yeah, mostly cobags over there.

Yes. And math is a socialist plot.

I shouldn’t be doing this, but fuck it.

Over at Newsbusters, they got this post from a resident cocksucker.

Now so what if he’s poutraging over Susan Estrich, who herself is all phewy over Apple on the iPad thingie. (Side question, is it newsbusters or lastweeksnewsbusters?)

No, the thing that’s gotten Gladnick’s goat is that Estrich has pointed out people might start making hoo-ha jokes. He’s pissed, really, so pissed that someone would say this, but yet he bravely resists going full metal capslock.

“Probably NOBODY would have noticed if you hadn’t brought it up, Susan.”

Probably, indeed. NOBODY. To teh great gazoogle… oh look, “iPad jokes” gets lotsa hits.

Top article – “iPad name draws feminine hygiene jokes? – 6 days ago”

Sorry, that should be 6 DAYS AGO.

From this article – from some never before heard of internets place I guess called “CNN” – they further tell me:

The term iTampon — a riff on the fact that the iPad can be taken to sound more like a maxipad than a slick new computer — was the third most-talked about trend on Twitter on Wednesday evening.”

See, probably NOBODY would have noticed.

Knowledge is theft.

maxipad

This was rejected by Steve Jobs as the name for iPad 2.0

Uhhhh…

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has decided to allow media coverage of her speech at next month’s Tea Party Convention at Gaylord Opryland Resort & Convention Center.

Um, yeah, so, the Teabaggers are partying at the Gaylord? How did I not see that coming?

How did I not see that coming?

Teabagging at the wrong angle.

Teabagging at the wrong angle.

Careful! You could poke your eye out doing that, kid!

So they needed to find a control group that was as similar as possible to a bunch of poorly-prepared first graders.

I guess the Texas and South Carolina State Legislatures were busy that week.

I guess the Texas and South Carolina State Legislatures were busy that week.

Hey now!

First graders have to be potty trained!

Forget the NYPost… what about this bull:

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/article/60888

Ben Shapiro is a moron. Plain and simple. A 24 year old moron who would rather write books about porn than watch it. A 24 year old moron who wouldn’t know a fascist dictator if one goose-stepped on his face. A 24 year old moron who obviously cannot hear or write anything but partisan hackery.

Someone needs to beat his a$$.

Ben Shapiro is a moron.

After his lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng rant about the Oscars and Oscar-winning movies, I would have figured his teddy bear got tired of sitting on his wood and they took a long nap together.

Careful there. Some of Cato is glibertarian douchebaggery,

Ted, once someone’s credibility is gone, it’s GONE. A stopped clock may be right twice a day but that is only because we divide a day into two identically-numbered halves. CATO may occasionally churn something out that is factually correct, but I really don’t care. I will wait for a credible source to speak up, rather than listen to the rambling clown wandering down the street.

You’re all missing the point, which is that kids would be way better off just reading Page Six of the post; how can any rug rat see something like “Pussycat Doll joins modeling agency” and not become a freakin’ brainiac?

Ben Shapiro is a moron.

And James O’Keefe, well, let’s say the hits just keep on coming.

James O’Keefe, well, let’s say the hits just keep on coming.

For a Republican, that’s an asset.

And James O’Keefe, well, let’s say the hits just keep on coming.

“O’Keefe and fellow young conservative provocateur Marcus Epstein soldiered on to give anti-Semites, professional racists and proponents of Aryanism an opportunity to share their grievances and plans to make inroads in the GOP.” –Salon

You know as a white guy in his mid-20s I too can attest to the racial injustices of the white 25 year olds. Oh, wait, no I can’t because there are none.

Esteev-

That’s not fair, I can think of plenty of examples just off the top of my head…

Oh wait, you meant racial injustices inflicted on white 25 year olds rather than perpetuated by white 25 year olds.

Never mind. Wait, there’s looking really stupid at a rap concert, does that count?

Wait, there’s looking really stupid at a rap concert, does that count?

I think that may be reparations of some kind.

Wait, there’s looking really stupid at a rap concert, does that count?

Um, well, since that’s voluntarily making an ass of yourself…

WTF. Marcus Epstein is, according to the wiki, half-Korean and half-Jewish. Aryan power babeeee!

You know as a white guy in his mid-20s I too can attest to the racial injustices of the white 25 year olds

I GOT ONE!

White men can’t jump! We can sue the NBA!

Marcus Epstein is, according to the wiki, half-Korean and half-Jewish. Aryan power babeeee kimcheeeeeeeee!

Head Start, the most sacrosanct federal education program, doesn’t work.

Even if this were true why does it only matter for funds used educating poor kids and not for funds used, oh I don’t know, lying to kids about birth control and teaching abstinence FOR JESUS?

Sorry, Sadly, No! admins for being a dirty dirty topic changer. But I got really pist when I read that nonsense by Shapiro.

Oooo! tigrismus said the J word! I’m telling.

What’s with all this O’Keefe bashing? Can’t we all agree he represents the best of the conservative movement?

Echoing someone’s recent complaint about the use of “butt hurt” I’d like to make a bit of noise about using “cocksucker” as a pejorative. I’m willing to bet that, with very few exceptions, no guy thinks that getting his cock sucked is a bad thing. People who enjoy doing it should not be disparaged. To further evoke the previous complaint, I’m not saying you should try it but you really ought to try it.

What’s with all this O’Keefe bashing? Can’t we all agree he represents the best of the conservative movement?

If by “best” you mean “the usual,” then yes I agree.

Can’t we all agree he represents the best of the conservative movement?

He hasn’t started any wars lately that I know of.

If by “best” you mean “the usual,” then yes I agree.

Also “quintessential” and perhaps also too “the rest are even worse.”

I’m willing to bet that, with very few exceptions, no guy thinks that getting his cock sucked is a bad thing.

You obviously haven’t been on some of the dates I’ve had…

You obviously haven’t been on some of the dates I’ve had

those aren’t dates…

those aren’t dates…

They were too wrinkled to be figs.

They were too wrinkled to be figs.

are figs fruits?

are figs fruits?

I said “fIgs”. With an “i”.

I said “fIgs”. With an “i”.

Ohh … and this whole time i thought Newton was very rude.

@Esteev

Note to self: use hands for HTML, feet for walking.

Speaking of changing the topic, I saw the headline: Transportation Secretary: Stop Driving Recalled Toyotas

Whingnutzers railing that it’s all a plot by Obama to make himself look good by propping up G.M. sales at Toyota’s expense in
3
2
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PeeJ,

Worse than that, the Secretary said we should keep our Toyotas parked!

So expect a Second Amendment-like argument…you know the same jackshit crazy as about motorcycle helmets…

Echoing someone’s recent complaint about the use of “butt hurt”..

Y’know, what that whole mini-thread missed is that “butthurt”– at least the way I learned it lo those many years ago– doesn’t have anything to do with teh buttseks; it describes that unique mix if stinging pain and humiliation that comes from being spanked.

I’m interested. Go on.

it’s all a plot by Obama to make himself look good by propping up G.M. sales at Toyota’s expense

it would be irresponsible not to speculate

it would be irresponsible not to speculate

“I’m not saying Pres O is a sick, twisted, maniacal dictator-in-training but, he does tie his neckties well.”

and this whole time i thought Newton was very rude.

Isaac was an asshole.

Interesting ideas about the use of “cocksucker” – must confess I use it partly in tribute to the police line-up scene in The Usual Suspects, but questions against it’s general usage in impolite company are valid.

So what derogatory alternatives are there… alternatives that don’t suggest some strained attempt at wordsmithing, just something that rolls off the tongue as a description of a giant steaming turd of a human being?

Perhaps Sadly, No! could move on to assbryo or sphincternaut.

Perhaps Sadly, No! could move on to assbryo or sphincternaut.

alternatives that don’t suggest some strained attempt at wordsmithing, just something that rolls off the tongue as a description of a giant steaming turd of a human being?

How about a “scalia”?

Isaac was an asshole.

<a href= http://www.nabiscoworld.com/NEWTONS/ That’s not the Newton i was referring to.

My apologies…my htlm skillz have really taken a hit after all the early morning glue inhalation.

Something employing smegma, I should think. It’s woefully underused.

Echoing someone’s recent complaint about the use of “butt hurt” I’d like to make a bit of noise about using “cocksucker” as a pejorative. I’m willing to bet that, with very few exceptions, no guy thinks that getting his cock sucked is a bad thing. People who enjoy doing it should not be disparaged. To further evoke the previous complaint, I’m not saying you should try it but you really ought to try it.

Interest = piqued.

Website? Newsletter?

Remember this thread?

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9775.html

So what derogatory alternatives are there…

Why do I get the feeling this thread will wind up being epic?

My personal suggestions: cockface, shiteater, fuckstick, and scalia.

alternatives that don’t suggest some strained attempt at wordsmithing

There’s always “shithead” or “shitheel” or “dirtbag” or “cobag” and friends…

Although I suppose that might upset the scat-play crowd.

WTF. Marcus Epstein is, according to the wiki, half-Korean and half-Jewish. Aryan power babeeee!

Well, you know who else was half-Jewish, don’t you?

America’s experiment with socialism is over.

Do you really believe everything the GOP shoves down your throat?

Read this and then go to bed.

Paul Mantarakis, which is probably your real name, that previous post with the BBC article was by me. Feel free to direct any of your confusion, strange feelings (otherwise known as an “epiphany”) to me.

I always liked Norm MacDonald’s use of “cock-biting whore.” Sounded great.

Do you really believe everything the GOP shoves down your throat?

Oh I don’t just believe…I swallow.

Hook, line, and sinker baby! You betcha.

Hey Paul, as a well-known expert on the military, shouldn’t you weigh in on the gays in the military issue downstairs? I’d love to hear your views.

Oh wait, I misspoke.

I’d hate to hear from you at all.

Remember this thread?

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9775.html

Yeah, that was a good one. Some guy named “Righteous Bubba” is all over that thread. Whatever happened to him? He was pretty funny.

“How about a “scalia”?”

Sounds llike a rash. It puts the lotion on……

Oh I don’t just believe…I swallow.

Now that I do believe. You like that warm, fuzzy feeling of getting more of what is already in your gut, don’t you?

“Probably NOBODY would have noticed if you hadn’t brought it up, Susan.”

“Yeah, I don’t even like THINKING about your gross lady functions and parts except when I do my daily anti-premature ejaculation exercises, mandated by the state after all those incidents at the movie theater.”

Something employing smegma, I should think. It’s woefully underused.

Unlike the people to whom we would refer, smegma apparently serves a useful purpose.

Anyhoo, I suggest skidmark.

Face the facts, libs. My asshole burns and it’s not from spicy food/

My personal suggestions: cockface, shiteater, fuckstick, and scalia.

….

Paul Mantarakis

Some guy named “Righteous Bubba” is all over that thread. Whatever happened to him? He was pretty funny.

Stomped to death by enraged grannies.

Face the facts conservatards, when a Democrat wins a federal election in NY-23 then you know that Republicans are screwed. NY-23 is the most Republican district in the state, and hasn’t had a Democrat represent them in Congress since the 1850s.

Bill Owens is no moderate like Scozzafava either, he is a solid liberal. That would be like someone with the politics of Strom Thurmond winning in a state like Washington or Massachusetts.

Face it conservatards, Obama is gonna be a two term winner, and Democrats are gonna retain both Houses of Congress. America’s experiment with teabagging is over. IT FAILED!

If I can use it, I prefer “assclown”.

“Fucknozzle” works for me, too.

Face the facts conservatards, when a Democrat wins a federal election in NY-23 then you know that Republicans are screwed. NY-23 is the most Republican district in the state, and hasn’t had a Democrat represent them in Congress since the 1850s.

That’s an outlier. Address his point! /dumb wingnut troll

dumb wingnut troll

I need more glue…

Hey, the Islamofascist commie Kenyan-in-chief gave a shout out to Roy Edroso today:

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/02/obama_quotes_vi.php

Steve King?! I see Super Sarah has been kicked to the curb already. I guess even the most deluded conservatards like Paul recognize a quitter when they see one.

<i.Some guy named “Righteous Bubba” is all over that thread. Whatever happened to him?

whatever it was, he wasn’t eaten by zombies, so you all can stop with the iinsinuations.

3. The size and scope of the federal govermnet will be shrunk to pre-New Deal levels.

I hope this includes the patriot act, unlawful detentions, torture of uncharged individuals, ect.. ect..

9. States Rights will be upheld and respected.

Kind of like the SCOTUS decision on the 2000 election?

whoah. Not only screwed up the html, I punted the spelling of insinuations.

Pass that glue, esteev.

The Republican tidal wave is advancing rapidly

Also the Republican hurricane, Republican earthquake, the Republican wildfire, the Republican volcano, and whatever other devestating disasters you can think of.

4. The IRS and the federal income tax will be abolished.

You. Are. Stoopid.

I hope this includes the patriot act, unlawful detentions, torture of uncharged individuals, ect.. ect..

not to mention the military expenditures…

Kind of like the SCOTUS decision on the 2000 election?

no, no, state’s rights don’t count when they disagree. See gay marriage or pot legalization.

whatever other devestating disasters you can think of.

The Republican Explosive Diarrhea.

Pass that glue, esteev.

Sorry zombie, it looks like Paul Matakljadsis used it all to keep his frontal lobe together.

The Republican Flesh Eating Bacteria epidemic.

The Republican Lawn Dart Accident.

The Republican Naked Vacuuming Incident.

It’s all over for you, libs! The Republican party is like a giant unstoppable meteor that will crash into the Earth and kill everything!

Every Republican Presidential Candidate for the Next 20 Years

Oooh, what’s this? A matinee? Come to papa, both hands please. Well if it must be one fine, but why you have to be online while we do it is kinda disrespectful. But k-lube is good, faster please!

1. Okay I’m hard now
2. Oh that feels good.
3. Really, really good, nice work.
4. Yep, the old techniques are always the best.
5. Oh. My. God.
6. Stop it, stop it, stop it.
7. THAR SHE BLOWS!!!!
8. Uh, dude, a cuddle before the crusty sock please.
9. Did you not hear me?
10. Ah fuck it, see you later then.

Also the Republican hurricane, Republican earthquake, the Republican wildfire, the Republican volcano, and whatever other devestating disasters you can think of.

The Republican earthquake? But didn’t we just learn that earthquakes are caused by The Gay?

The Republican Wetsuit Tsunami

Steve King?! I see Super Sarah has been kicked to the curb already.

I think “how the Founding Fathers intended” means no wimmins anywhere near politics so maybe that could explain it.

The Republican earthquake? But didn’t we just learn that earthquakes are caused by The Gay?

By Glenn Beck’s logic.. that means…..Republicans are _ _ _???

The Republican party is like a giant unstoppable meteor flaming hemorrhoid

The Republican Projectile Vomited Flood and F5 Tornado

Paul Mantarakis’s penis

Objection. Statement assumes facts not in evidence.

Hey Paul, baby, how’s that deployment with the 10th Mountain Division of the Screen Beret Action Figure League goin’? Pass the math test yet? Hmmm?

The Republican tidal wave is advancing rapidly

…onto that deserted rock off the coast of Whogivesafuck…

So what derogatory alternatives are there… alternatives that don’t suggest some strained attempt at wordsmithing, just something that rolls off the tongue as a description of a giant steaming turd of a human being?

“Buttboy” usually works.

10. Our nation will finally be returned to the way Our Founding Fathers intended.

That happened Nov. 4, 2008.

Next?

10. Our nation will finally be returned to the way Our Founding Fathers intended.

The Right’s idea of the “the way Our Founding Fathers intended” involves them getting elected and reelected in a constant cycle without any recourse for their “actions.”

Our nation will finally be returned to the way Our Founding Fathers intended.

This means “living as Confederate re-enactors inside a really big Bass Pro Shops”.

The Republican Painful Rectal Itch Epidemic

Conservatives are … stupid?

STIMULUS: The Republican Anal Cyst

CONTROL: The Republican Mild Skin-Rash