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Even Reading Comprehension Discriminates Against Christians!
I’ve just noticed there’s a glaring lack in our lexical facilities, and I’m hoping some of you will help me coin a neologism to fill it.
I’m looking for a term to describe someone who creates a fake instance of martyrdom out of nothing; something with a soupçon of mockery about it, the way the term “wigger” is usually seen as mocking white suburban kids who emulate a way of life that they know nothing about personally. Because without this word, I’ll never be able to properly point out just how stupid Janet Folger is.
Go ahead: Arrest me
Censorship. Book burning. The Criminalization of Christianity. It’s here and it’s now the law in the state of Colorado.
The Ku Klux Klan can march. The Nazis can hand out brochures. Skinheads can do whatever it is that Skinheads do. But in the state of Colorado, the only group who is NOT allowed to be heard is … the Christians. They’re the ones who disagree with same-sex marriage, cohabitation, and believe the biblical view that homosexuality is a sin. But if they voice that objection from now on, it had better be inside the four walls of a church. If not, they’ll be staring at the four walls of a prison cell … for up to a year.
A year? Are you kidding me?
No kidding.
Oh. I guess you aren’t kidding me, then.
You see, Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter signed into law SB 200 and turned public restrooms and locker rooms into a predator paradise where men can enter (and shower in) any female public facility in the state. You’d think that would be as bad as it gets – but wait: Section 8 of that same bill claims to trump the First Amendment:
Good Lord! This is serious. Colorado has finally declared itself a breakaway republic. Allowing state law to trump the Constitution? This is a Constitutional crisis! This will not stand. What does this detestable piece of legislation say, Janet?
Section 8. 24-34-701. Publishing of discriminative matter forbidden.
No person, being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent, or employee of any place of public accommodation … shall publish, issue, circulate, send, distribute, give away, or display in any way, manner, or shape or by any means or method, except as provided in this section, any communication, paper, poster, folder, manuscript, book, pamphlet, writing, print, letter, notice, or advertisement of any kind, nature, or description that is intended or calculated to discriminate or actually discriminates against … SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status …
This is outrageous! I’m appalled. Even though I personally do not agree with written speech that discriminates against sexual orientation or maritial status, I would naturally defend anyone’s Constitutional right to engage in such written speech. Has the governor of Colorado lost his mind? Surely there must be some explanation for such shocking legal text? What does the rest of this section say?
… in the matter of furnishing or neglecting or refusing to furnish to them or any one of them any lodging, housing, schooling, or tuition or any accommodation, right [marriage], privilege [adoption], advantage, or convenience … on account of … SEXUAL ORIENTATION, marital status … [which] is unwelcome or objectionable or not acceptable, desired, or solicited.
Oh. Not so much, then.
Apparently, what “Christians” like Janet Folger call “The ARMAGGEDON of CHRISTIANITY in AMERICA OMGWTFBBO!!!ELEVENTYONE11! I CAN HAZ MARTUR HAT NOW?”, the rest of us call “boilerplate anti-discrimination in housing legal text”. In fact, here’s the actual text of SB 200-8, Section 8, without Folger’s histrionic additions [PDF warning for the link, in case your computer doesn't like PDFs]:
24-34-701. Publishing of discriminative matter forbidden.
No person, being the owner, lessee, proprietor, manager, superintendent, agent, or employee of any place of public accommodation, resort, or amusement, directly or indirectly, by himself or herself or through another person shall publish, issue, circulate, send, distribute, give away, or display in any way, manner, or shape or by any means or method, except as provided in this section, any communication, paper, poster, folder, manuscript, book, pamphlet, writing, print, letter, notice, or advertisement of any kind, nature, or description THAT is intended or calculated to discriminate or actually discriminates against any disability, race, creed, color, sex, SEXUAL ORIENTATION , marital status, national origin, or ancestry or against any of the members thereof in the matter of furnishing or neglecting or refusing to furnish to them or any one of them any lodging, housing, schooling, or tuition or any accommodation, right, privilege, advantage, or convenience offered to or enjoyed by the general public or which states that any of the accommodations, rights, privileges, advantages, or conveniences of any such place of public accommodation, resort, or amusement shall or will be refused, withheld from, or denied to any person or class of persons on account of disability, race, creed, color, sex, SEXUAL ORIENTATION , marital status, national origin, or ancestry or that the patronage, custom, presence, frequenting, dwelling, staying, or lodging at such place by any person or class of persons belonging to or purporting to be of any particular disability, race, creed, color, sex, SEXUAL ORIENTATION ,marital status, national origin,or ancestry is unwelcome or objectionable or not acceptable, desired, or solicited.
You’ll never guess what this sounds an awful lot like. No, not Mein Kampf. Not Der Ewige Jude, either. Despite all Folger’s kvetching about how this is a blatantly discriminatory piece of anti-Christian legislation, this sounds remarkably like certain passages from the United States Code:
As made applicable by section 3603 of this title and except as exempted by sections 3603 (b) and 3607 of this title, it shall be unlawful—
(a) To refuse to sell or rent after the making of a bona fide offer, or to refuse to negotiate for the sale or rental of, or otherwise make unavailable or deny, a dwelling to any person because of race, color, religion, sex, familial status, or national origin.
(b) To discriminate against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling, or in the provision of services or facilities in connection therewith, because of race, color, religion, sex, familial status, or national origin.
(c) To make, print, or publish, or cause to be made, printed, or published any notice, statement, or advertisement, with respect to the sale or rental of a dwelling that indicates any preference, limitation, or discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin, or an intention to make any such preference, limitation, or discrimination.
(d) To represent to any person because of race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin that any dwelling is not available for inspection, sale, or rental when such dwelling is in fact so available.
(e) For profit, to induce or attempt to induce any person to sell or rent any dwelling by representations regarding the entry or prospective entry into the neighborhood of a person or persons of a particular race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status, or national origin.
All this means is that if you want a license to do business in the state of Colorado, you can’t discriminate against folks. Every single state in the country has the same damn law, more or less - the only real difference being whether or not a given state recognizes sexual orientation as a class deserving protection against discrimination. All the other classes have their protection mandated by the federal government.
Let’s see if we can help Folger down off of that cross she’s put herself on, shall we?
Forget the public library display of “banned books week” – its “banned books week” all year round in the entire state of Colorado – if those books, paper, posters, folders, manuscripts, pamphlet, writing, print, letter, notice, advertisement, or crayon drawing is said to be calculated, intended, or thought to discriminate against homosexual behavior, or the agenda to rewrite marriage and adoption laws.
Don’t worry, Janet. You can go right on being just as much of a bigoted lunatic as you’ve always been. It’s really not that bad.
A week from today I’m flying to Denver and attending a press conference with Colorado pastors and state leaders to … break the law. We are handing out my book, “The Criminalization of Christianity,” and waiting for arrest. It may be that next week’s column will be written from a jail cell. I tend to think that would be a stupid move on the government’s part. I predict they will lay low and peg off the less vocal types first. Wait for the cement in the law to become solid before chaining it to the feet of Christians who dare speak out.
See, now I almost feel bad for her. She seems so excited about the prospect of being arrested! Instead, all that’s going to happen to her is she’s going to stand on a sidewalk, ranting at befuddled passersby for an afternoon, and as long as she doesn’t block traffic, no cop is even going to look at her.
This just doesn’t seem right. Maybe we should take up a collection and hire one of those Strip-o-Gram guys who dresses up like a cop to show up for her? It’s a shame to let all that fake martyr act go to waste with no audience.
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:01
Help! Help! I’m being oppressed!!!!!
Hoosier X said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:02
I always call people like that “Little Miss Martyr”
Matt said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:04
What was that line from The Young Ones? “You can’t crucify yourself…I’ve tried. You can’t get the last nail in.”
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:04
I’m looking for a term to describe someone who creates a fake instance of martyrdom out of nothing
Fartyrs.
All Internet Traditions said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:04
How about “neomartyr?” Or “hysterimartyr?”
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:05
Squicktims.
albany layman said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:05
Martyrdummies.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:05
I am poutraged!
Spirula said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:06
someone who creates a fake instance of martyrdom
autologous pseudocrucifixion?
Corey said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:08
Righteous Bubba…you beat me to it.
I’d also suggest “massholes.”
Matt said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:08
someone who creates a fake instance of martyrdom out of nothing
Performance artist?
smiling dog said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:09
Sacrificial Lion
Jake H. said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:09
I’m looking for a term to describe someone who creates a fake instance of martyrdom out of nothing
What, “conservative” isn’t descriptive enough?
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:09
Red Sox fans?
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:10
Red Sox fans?
Heh.
Tattlefails.
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:11
What was that line from The Young Ones? - Matt
“Only pop music can save us now”?
Wait. Different bit.
Smiling Mortician said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:11
On my deathbed I will regret that I did not come up with poutraged. Between now and then, however, I will use it as if it were my own.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:12
It seems that I didn’t come up with poutraged either.
anangryoldbroad said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:15
I call them Malkins.
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:15
Yeah. Poutrage.
RB does it again.
tigrismus said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:17
Martyrbators?
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:18
Martyrbators?
Ooo. Also uh uh uh and so forth.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:19
Dicktims.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:19
Poutrage.
Isn’t this just freedom fries with gravy and cheese? I like Fartyr. Half-human half-scapegoat.
commie atheist said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:19
A week from today I’m flying to Denver and attending a press conference with Colorado pastors and state leaders to … break the law. We are handing out my book, “The Criminalization of Christianity,” and waiting for arrest. It may be that next week’s column will be written from a jail cell.
Doesn’t she first have to become a landlord, or a motel manager, and then refuse to rent/let to any of the protected classes, before they haul her ass off to jail? Or is my reading comprehension that bad?
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:19
I always liked the Reverse Double Malkin.
It has a nice ring to it.
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:20
And yes, we should hire the strippergram dude.
Gerald Curl said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:21
“Folgeries”? A play on “forgeries” and giving credit where due.
roac said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:21
Short lesson in constitutional law in case anybody is curious: The Sup. Ct. has said that speech proposing an illegal commercial transaction is not protected by the 1st. Amdt. So the Constitution does not give you the right to print an ad saying “Fine crystal meth for sale cheap.”
Since it is illegal to refuse to rent to somebody because he is (say) black, an ad saying “No Blacks Allowed” is likewise not protected.
Janet Folger’s stupid book presumably does not propose a commercial transaction, so she can sell or give it to anybody that will put up with it.
(I have to say, that’s some seriously bad draftspersonship in that Colo. statute. It does apparently mean the same thing as subsection 804(c ) of the federal Fair Housing Act, which Jillian quotes, but it sure is harder to read.)
Bill Shut said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:22
Anthropomartyr - the ascribing of religious martyrdom to inanimate objects
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:23
Doesn’t she first have to become a landlord, or a motel manager, and then refuse to rent/let to any of the protected classes, before they haul her ass off to jail? Or is my reading comprehension that bad?
Well she’s obviously not going to hand out copies of her book to teh ghey. To jail with her!
Candy said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:23
crucifictitious martyrs
Their fantasies of martyrdom would be crucifictional.
Jake H. said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:23
It may be that next week’s column will be written from a jail cell.
Awwwwwww, you’re so cute! Go ahead and have fun at your jail party, sweety!
mextremist said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:24
Victibitionist?
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:25
Would-besuses.
gbear said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:25
Egomartyracs?
Doesn’t exactly roll of the tongue, does it?
Sounds more like an eye problem…
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:26
Victibitionist?
That’s pretty great.
commie atheist said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:26
Since it is illegal to refuse to rent to somebody because he is (say) black, an ad saying “No Blacks Allowed” is likewise not protected.
Janet Folger’s stupid book presumably does not propose a commercial transaction, so she can sell or give it to anybody that will put up with it.
Thanks for the confirmation, roac. She really is an idiot.
Jake H. said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:26
So the Constitution does not give you the right to print an ad saying “Fine crystal meth for sale cheap.”
The hell you say! But the trailer park newsletter took my money, the bastards!
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:26
Martyrbators?
Oh man. I thought fartyrs was good. Martyrbators is wanktastically perfect. Poutrage’s Complaint.
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:27
“Doesn’t she first have to become a landlord, or a motel manager, and then refuse to rent/let to any of the protected classes, before they haul her ass off to jail? Or is my reading comprehension that bad?”
You are correct. Suffering a moral poutrage, and having one’s delicate sensibilities terribly bruised are not a justicable actions. She and the morons like her are free to continue being bigoted cretins and telling anyone who will listen, alllll about it.
Candy said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:32
Martyrdumb
Bill Shut said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:32
Othercheekdom
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:33
Sacrificial ham.
Jake H. said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:34
You know, I hope Tom Lennon reads this blog, because the Reno 911 segment really writes itself here, doesn’t it?
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:34
The Depended.
kenga said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:34
“massholes.”
That’s already in common use.
At least that’s what folks from NJ, NY, CT, NH, VT, RI and ME tell us …
Gerald Curl said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:34
And it’s no longer just in Sweden, Europe, and Canada…”
Sweden was kicked out of Europe? What will the U.S. and North America do about this?
pedestrian said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:35
persatzcution
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:37
Putzacution?
Ripley said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:37
I was going to say Shartyrs but someone beat me to the Fartyrs bit, so that would look like blatant ripoffism.
How ’bout Martyrchists? or Sado Martyrchists…
Jon H said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:38
“This just doesn’t seem right. Maybe we should take up a collection and hire one of those Strip-o-Gram guys who dresses up like a cop to show up for her?”
It being Colorado, can we get the guy who canoodled with Pastor Ted?
Smiling Mortician said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:38
The fauxpressed
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:41
Casualest-ties
MileHi Hawkeye said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:41
WooHoo! Maybe I’ll test my citizen’s detainment rights. Or, maybe I could get her to come to my house so I can invoke my “Make My Day” rights and pop a cap in her ass.
Also, everyone knows that Denver cops shoot first and ask questions never. A book in your hand looks an awful lot like a gun. Bang!
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:41
Waagellants.
Scott said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:42
I kinda like Righteous Bubba’s “fartyrs.”
At any rate, someone in Colorado needs to take pictures of Coffee Janet as she awaits her inevitable arrest by the Invincible Atheist Gestapo of Evil, or at least repost some news reports of her whinefest…
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:42
Stealing from Mort: Fauxgellants.
Kathleen said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:42
you had me at Fartyrs. Comedy gold, this thread is.
OTB said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:43
How about Nostrils?
That’s all I can see in my mind when I read this stuff, or Malkin, O’Really, Coulter–just two big, flexing, fuzz-coated booger holes, huffing and puffing.
Nostrils is more indignation than martyrdom, though. Maybe a rating system? Like, “I give this victibitionist three nostrils for outrage, but only one nostril for execution.”
Atlas Scruggs said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:43
Martyrbators and victibitionists. They can be used alternately to demonstrate one has a firm grasp of the vocabulary and a robust familiarity with the phenomenon.
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:45
Saint Moan of Arc.
OTB said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:46
Wow…RB, WereBear, and Legalize are running neck in neck. It’s a tight race!
Mr. Wonderful said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:47
Sufferergettes.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:47
Sacrificial ham made me snicker in that mean way we liberals snicker, all mean-like and mean.
DragonScholar said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:48
Marytards? (pronounced Mar-tards)
(Sorry, a bit non-polite, but it IS catchy).
DragonScholar said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:48
Er, excuse me not Marytards, MARTards.
gbear said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:49
Is anyone going to be near this book givaway? MileHi? Someone should be there to receive one of her books and then tear out page after page within her view until her head explodes. Just don’t get busted for littering.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:49
Vain-tim
Noffended
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:51
Shambushed
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:52
Scapehoax
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:53
Spasualties.
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:53
Victibators
ChristMD said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:54
Wait for the cement in the law to become solid before chaining it to the feet of Christians who dare speak out.
Hey Stupid,
Cement is a dry powder. It doesn’t become solid until it is made into concrete. You should know this because in the Bible one of the Disciples was a concrete finisher. Surely you’ve heard of the Apostle’s Screed?
Your Friend
Hoosier X said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:56
It’s not fair to single out Red Sox fans for this kind of thing when it can so easily be applied to New England sports fans in general.
(Red Sox fans: Don’t say I never stick up for you.)
DroppedAsAKid said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:56
victard
perhaps it’s a condition from having:
multiple martyrosis
involuntary paranoid homophobic whingingitis with narcissistic rage
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:57
Faux Munchausen’s Syndrome.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 21:58
The Bigots Who Cried Wolf.
MileHi Hawkeye said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:01
gbear–I’ll have to see if I can find out anything about when and where this is going to take place. I’m not on any wingnut mailing lists though…
I hope it doesn’t interfere with any islamogayskinheadKKKaborto activities that I may have planned.
EJ said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:01
I’m in awe of “Martyrbator” “Victibitionist”
I can’t take credit for making it up, but I like “psuedoeleemosynarist”
RodeoBob said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:01
I was unaware of how open-minded the Nazis and Skinheads were of same-sex marriage and homosexuality in general! You learn something new every day!
Remember kids: this woman got a book published, and writes for money!
OTB said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:01
Crucifakes!
Matt T. said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:02
I was gonna say “crucifiction”, but Candy was too fast for me (and I’ve known more than one Candy whom that would be an apt statement), so maybe “C(h)ry(st)-babies”?
And though I’ve promised myself I’d stop wrasslin’ with the ineffable with believers, shouldn’t someone send this to Amy Sullivan with a note that said “If you’re really concerned about how Christianity is perceived by the public, maybe these are the people you should concern yourself with, not atheists. Atheists just think your religion is silly; people like this woman are using it as a club to bash fellow human beings’ heads in and complaining they’re being crucified when someone points out what douches they collectively are”.
I don’t know…
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:03
Jonah
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:04
Victibitionists practice the purportification of the flesh.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:04
Bogus-leaguered
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:06
Hey, I think we can even get them to take this one on for themselves:
The Morally Arrested
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:08
Remember kids: this woman got a book published, and writes for money!
Indeedy.
She lied for our sins.
Ereshkigal said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:08
Would a martyrbator then be a victim of ersatzcution? Would Wingnuttia declare a Day of Poutrage?
A week from today I’m flying to Denver and attending a press conference with Colorado pastors and state leaders to … break the law. We are handing out my book, “The Criminalization of Christianity,” and waiting for arrest. It may be that next week’s column will be written from a jail cell.
She thinks she’s a public accommodation. Maybe that’s a new term for “village idiot”.
Principal Blackman said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:09
I vote for either fartyr or fauxpressed. Both of those are fantastic.
DrDick said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:12
Oh dear sweet spreadable Jeebus on matzoh toast. These people are only happy when they can emulate their savior’s martyrdom on the cross, or at least pretend to without any actual suffering or inconvenience to themselves that is.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:14
As if this thread wasn’t full of win already,
She lied for our sins.
Fucking beautiful.
Jason said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:15
Thick Wrong Dicks, if male.
Kahluster said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:16
If she’s thrown in the clink and she decided to blog about it, it would be just like “Letters from a Birmingham Jail” all over again.
Ripley said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:16
Munchausen Martyrs?
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:17
The Communion of Faints.
D.N. Nation said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:17
At the end of the day, does this woman really, truly, actually believe that the government will allow neo-Nazis to hold a parade but won’t allow her to?
Does she actually believe this? She cannot believe this.
Some Guy said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:19
“We are handing out my book, “The Criminalization of Christianity,” and waiting for arrest. It may be that next week’s column will be written from a jail cell.”
It’s funny, because she knows there’s a 0% chance of that happening.
Which is good for her, because, judging from that pic, she’d be used like currency.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:22
Baptizzyists.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:22
Wrongfully impassioned
mako rojo said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:22
Thank goodness she had this book already written in advance of the happy coincidence. It’s not like she was looking for this to happen and tried to make something out of nothing.
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:23
Munchausen Martyrs
Love it. And it’s alliterative!
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:23
We will overclown!
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:25
Cool Hand Matthew, Mark and John
Me said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:25
I always appreciate the opportunity to drag out an old favorite:
Super shallow narcissist with multiple neuroses.
Sing it!
Righteous Bubba said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:26
Fundaventalists.
Smiling Mortician said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:27
Marturds
silver said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:27
waambulent
waambulixion
Nim, ham hock of liberty said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:27
I like fauxpressed.
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:28
Fauxmetheus Bound
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:29
The Passion of the Reichs
roondog said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:30
Autoneurotic crucifiction?
Daphne Chyprious said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:33
The term already exists. It’s “martyr complex.” Her case isn’t particularly exceptional - or interesting, IMO.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:34
Just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons
Smiling Mortician said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:34
Riffing off Legalize: Clowntrodden
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:35
In her case it’s “martyr simplex.”
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:36
Huddled Massholes
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:36
Daphne, I think you may be unfamiliar with the Sadly, No! Liberal Circle Jerk.
We sit around and wait for a subject that we can try to out-smartify each other.
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:37
Whaaawfauxly Poutraged?
Doctorb said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:37
Oh man, I just remembered a couple weekends back I was visiting some right-wing relatives in SoCal, and they had a note up on the fridge about signing a petition against the latest CA anti-discrimination bill, on the grounds that it would mandate unisex bathrooms and make it illegal to to say “Mommy and Daddy” in a public school, when in fact it’s the same sort of standard anti-discrimination stuff.
I just love amateur legal analysis, really I do.
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:37
Fauxpressed asses.
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:37
Whaaaaafaux Poutraged, I mean.
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:38
Dammit, third try:
Whaaaafauxly Poutraged
t4toby said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:39
And if I may say so, Daphne, your blog really confuses me.
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:39
And in the meantime, sneakily, unisex bathrooms have invaded every home!
Brandi said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:40
Tartuffes.
It’s even French, for extra insult power.
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:43
Mythsogny.
poopy Mcpants said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:46
Just change the lyrics to “if I Had a Hammer”
If I had a hammer
I’d hammer in the nails
I’d hammer them into
My own hands
I’d hammer out danger
I’d hammer out a warning
I’d hammer out the homos are taking over
over this land
MileHi Hawkeye said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:47
Here in the breakaway People’s Republic of Colorado, we prefer the simple direct “stupid deluded fucks”.
That’s just how we roll…
pedestrian said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:50
“We are handing out my book, “The Criminalization of Christianity,” and waiting for arrest. It may be that next week’s column will be written from a jail cell.”
Uh oh! Someone has been involved in some shady business dealings.
silver said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:55
martyrmoanius
Legalize said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:56
How much you wanna bet that if she IS arrested, it won’t be for handing out a stupid book, but for screaming at passers-by or blocking traffic or something?
mextremist said,
June 26, 2008 at 22:58
clowntrodden FTW!
eeemmolated?
WereBear said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:00
Ain’t Teresa of Avila
Candy said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:04
Fauxpressed - I really like that. But there are so many good ones to choose from. Jillian has a lot of decidering to do . . .
Candy said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:07
Holy Trollers
Tom said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:08
My favorites: Victibitionist, Martyrbators, Poutrage.
“Did you hear about that martyrbator Janet Folger? She is having a poutrage because she thinks that housing laws in Colorado discriminate against Christians. She is such a victibitionist that she is going to go hand out copies of her crappy book to unsuspecting citizens.”
Fartyrs is funny but it only works in print.
Candy said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:12
Janet Folger wrote a book all about turning water into whine.
not that kind of doctor said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:16
Martyrial fibrillation? Meh…
Five of Diamonds said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:17
Skinheads can do whatever it is that Skinheads do.
Endorse Ron Paul?
Geeno said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:18
Riffing off Mextremist ..
Self-EMOlaters
not that kind of doctor said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:18
Martyriosclerosis.
Geeno said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:19
Personal fave so far is Martyrbators.
Smiling Mortician said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:19
Janet is our quavior, a lying shite to the clowntrodden and fauxpressed, to the muddled asses yearning to sleaze free . . .
Matt T. said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:22
How much you wanna bet that if she IS arrested, it won’t be for handing out a stupid book, but for screaming at passers-by or blocking traffic or something?
How much you wanna bet she’d nevertheless claim the latter was just cover for doing the former, ’cause once Baby Jesus is outlawed, only outlaws will have Baby Jesus.
Which sounds like a faux Johnny Paycheck song.
winthrup said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:25
Wait for the cement in the law to become solid before chaining it to the feet of Christians who dare speak out.
Say what you will, that shit’s dynamite.
Let’s see if we can even come close:
“Lollygag until the lions in the law become hungry before feeding it the Christians…”
“Fart about until the faggots of the law start burning before tying the Christians to them…”
“Waffle until the waterboard of the law is wet down–”
Forget it. Can’t be beat. No wonder she’s got a book or two to sell!
Doctorb said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:26
Daphne — the problem with “martyr complex” is that it’s two words (which doesn’t keep if from being a “term”, but still it’s not perfect), and also that it isn’t derisive enough. Also someone with a martyr complex actually seeks out actual suffering, like in an abusive relationship, whereas Folger’s thing is about claiming to be persecuted.
To an extent, this comes from the Sermon on the Mount, (”Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake”), which is odd, because other Beatitudes like being meek, merciful, or peacemakers don’t seem to rate that highly. Of course many Christians are aware (and some are even willing to point out) that there’s a difference between being reviled for your religious convictions and being reviled for being incredibly obnoxious.
roac said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:32
OK, I looked this bill up. What it does is add sexual preference as a protected class to the state public accommodations (not housing) law.
The ranters down in Colorado Springs have homed in like bats on a sphinx moth on the word “facilities,” which to them of course means “bathrooms” and nothing else. So the drumbeat is about how this allows perverts to go into bathrooms previously reserved for the other sex and molest children. (You would think that by definition, perverts are interested in children of the same sex, but let that go.)
The laugh is that if keeping people out of opposite-sex bathrooms is discrimination, it’s discrimination based on sex. WHICH WAS ALREADY ILLEGAL.
Neither logic nor shame means anything to these people when they see an opportunity to extract some bucks from the faithful.
DAS said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:32
Of course the government is preventing her from exercizing her religion. As far as she is concerned, we all fall so short of God’s glory that we are condemned to hell and no amount of atonement, reparations, prayer or anything we can do can set us right with God. And people who have done things like engage in acts of teh ghey are in an even worse position.
However, if we accept the blood sacrifice of Christ Jesus, all is forgiven, because Jesus died for our sins.
Of course, to be able to prevent someone from living eternity in hell is one of the greatest deeds, indeed greatest religious duties, an evangelical (hence the name) has. Certainly, tough love is sometimes in order — if one acts as if it’s ok to be teh ghey and allows them to live where they want, for example, that doesn’t send them the message they need that they need to change their lives so that way they don’t burn eternally in hell.
For someone like Folger, for the state to prevent her from discriminating against gays, using whatever resources (including public property and public accomodations) to evangelize, etc., is hindering her from performing the loving act (huh-huh … he said “loving act” … huh huh) of preventing people from suffering eternally in hell.
The problem posed by the reactionary strain of evangelical Christianity in a religiously free society is that the only way such an evangelical really is able to excercize their religion is by granting them certain privileges that are tantamount to an establishment of religion — which establishment, interestingly, was most strongly opposed by the non-reactionary evangelicals of yester-centuries — and incompatable with secular society.
There is a real dilemma here that resonates with many people who, c.f. Obama’s ridiculed remarks, feel that their sense of privilege is being undermined and who turn to reactionary politics in an effort to keep such privilege. Of course, such privilege has no place in the democratic-republican society these people claim to champion in their pseudo-patriotism … I could go on and on about the sociology here, but there is a question of what to do about these people.
tb said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:34
I think “martyrbaters” wins.
JokesForFree said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:36
Jaysus H. Christ walks into a hotel. He throws a few nails on the counter and asks the clerk “Can you put me up for the night?”
Hey, whadya expect for free?
Senator Larry Craig said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:39
I, for one, applaud the new law allowing expanded use of bathrooms, or as I prefer to call them, Freedom Flush Foyers.
Senator David Vitter said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:41
Can you, um, change diapers in these Freedom Flush Foyers?
Kathleen said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:44
clowntrodden is so, so awesome.
zeppo said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:56
What a great comment thread!! And now I have to leave work and go home! Dammit….
I love “Red Sox Fan”….
Smiling Mortician said,
June 26, 2008 at 23:59
Fauxpressed - I really like that.
clowntrodden is so, so awesome.
So I’ve discovered that it totally pays to be on vacation with nothing better to do than hang out online all day. Who knew?
PaminBB said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:00
This thread is teh awesome. Sacrificial ham, indeed.
Oh and: “We are handing out my book, “The Criminalization of Christianity,” and waiting for arrest.” I’m wondering if the book itself is a crime, or merely the proposed distribution method. I’m guessing sales aren’t too hot.
another jim said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:12
Some thoughts:
- having a mar-tantrum?
- martyrfakers
- marturds
and,
- crocksulkers
:) fun.
Doctorb said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:15
Martyrfucker.
But really, I like martyrbator the best.
Also, cocksucker is a compound word and neither half of that is really dirty.
mikey said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:23
*AHEM*
Many of us really, REALLY liked “The Crow” and have seen it many times.
You sir, are no Eric Draven…
mikey
Righteous Bubba said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:24
Holy Trollers is pretty good.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:26
So I’ve discovered that it totally pays to be on vacation with nothing better to do than hang out online all day.
Pays?
bobbyp said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:27
Myrnicators.
comsympinko said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:30
I used to live in Denver.
People are going to throw things at her.
bobbyp said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:31
Folgenators?
I may be reaching here, but if there’s money in it, I’m game.
JokesForFree said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:33
> Many of us really, REALLY liked “The Crow” and have seen it many times.
I already explained the implicit valuation of Free Jokes. Holy Batman, Robin!
Obligatory Free Joke:
Q: What’s the difference between love, true love, and showing off?
A: Spitting, swallowing, and gargling.
Andre said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:37
Brandi wins with “Tartuffes”. Perfect.
skippy said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:42
close, but what about:
course, it’s hard to read, but even more fun to say.
or how about
or just plain
Smiling Mortician said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:42
Pays?
Well, someone just brought me quaich of 20-year-old Glenrothes, so I’m gonna say yeah.
Itchy Brother said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:44
Crucifakes?
I’m still wondering about this part though…
signed into law SB 200 and turned public restrooms and locker rooms into a predator paradise where men can enter (and shower in) any female public facility
Colorado is starting to look pretty good.
Itchy Brother said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:48
SacriFarce
WereBear said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:50
People are going to throw things at her.
And she’ll love it.
What she is expressing, to go all psych on ya’ll, is the rampant anxiety inherent in the fortress mentality of certain evangelical Christians.
Because it is about being “saved.” It’s about a mindset. They believe in faith, not works. So it’s not like Catholicism, where you can express and perform contrition, get absolution, and take a breather.
What this kind of Christian must do to avoid the eventual, and eternal, Lake o’ Fire, is believe with all their heart and soul. There must be no doubt.
I’ll repeat that, because it is both their hope and their curse.
There must be no doubt.
Unfortunately, this is antithetical to the human condition, wherein the more you tell someone not to think about pink elephants, the more they will do so.
And there they are.
They must ruthlessly prevent any outside influence from bringing doubts into their mind. (Thus, their oscillation between trying to cloister themselves away from doubt sowing, and the Lure of the World, which they try to sanitize.) Yet, either way, this is an impossible task.
So the only thing left is to show their Old Testament God how much they are suffering. It’s projection, sure, because these people really are suffering. But if they suffer enough (and here’s where the sado-masochism comes in) God will forgive those doubts that pop into their mind, unbidden, and they will not be thrown into the aforementioned Lake o’ Fire forever and ever.
At least, they hope so. Doubt, again.
ifthethunderdontgetya™²³®© said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:54
At least, they hope so. Doubt, again.
Fortunately, there’s all those wingnut welfare $$$ to salve the tender souls.
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
skippy said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:54
i gotta go with “fauxpressed” “sacrificial hams” and “the clowntrodden.”
Itchy Brother said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:55
I guess that should have been sacrifarcel lamb.
fadegeophile said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:56
This thread rules.
fadegeophile said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:57
Too many good ones to declare a winner.
OTB said,
June 27, 2008 at 0:58
Al Cryda.
Brylock said,
June 27, 2008 at 1:00
Ok, this one’s not quite what was asked for, but it does refer to the right wing tactic of insisting on portraying themselves as victims while actively agitating for the right to discriminate against a minority group:
Oppresto-change-o!
As in: Homobigot? Just Folgerize yourself and OPPRESTO-CHANGE-O! Now you’re a Christian martard! Join the ranks of the clowntrodden and spew your bile in public! Whee!
mikey said,
June 27, 2008 at 1:01
…“We are handing out my book…
If I ever get a book published, I’ll kill myself before I utter this sentence…
mikey
Shell Goddamnit said,
June 27, 2008 at 1:17
“Squicktim” was actually painfully funny.
“Baptizzyists” is pretty cute though.
Jacob Singer said,
June 27, 2008 at 1:39
This thread sucks.
Because it only serves to remind me I’ll never be as funny or as smart as the vast majority of you bastards.
Smiling Mortician said,
June 27, 2008 at 1:54
Al Cryda.
OK now that is just too funny.
arghous said,
June 27, 2008 at 1:55
Peggy-offed Sue got Martyred?
aw said,
June 27, 2008 at 2:16
Conscientious projectors.
Blunderdogs.
Legalize said,
June 27, 2008 at 2:21
No love for “Fauxmetheus Bound”?
Haters!!
J. A. Baker said,
June 27, 2008 at 2:24
Dollars to donuts, she tries to block traffic in order to specifically get arrested and then “legitimately” claim martyrdumb.
Ted said,
June 27, 2008 at 2:29
They’ve pulled that shit before. Remember, lying for Jesus is justifiable because it’s for the best possible cause in the universe.
noen said,
June 27, 2008 at 2:47
The language about men being able to enter and shower in any public facility may be about permitting transsexuals to use the bathroom. It isn’t clear so there might be separate language elsewhere that spells it out more clearly. It’s a difficult issue for many but the fundies get really bent out of shape over it. The law might not even permit that but she might believe it does. Still, you’d think Colorado of all places would have worked this out long ago.
taodon said,
June 27, 2008 at 2:50
Quixotyrs
mikey said,
June 27, 2008 at 2:54
I frequently enter and shower in the library.
No problem so far…
mikey
joeyess said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:01
A Peehadist
Argonaut said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:09
“Young man, if there is such a thing as a tartuffe, you are just that thing.
One more peep out of you and I’ll give you a sound trundling.”
- W.C. Fields, “You Can’t Cheat an Honest Man”
ifthethunderdontgetya™²³®© said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:13
It’s important that people peepee and poopoo in the proper places.
We have trolls to remind us of these self evident trooths.
Argonaut said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:22
Other than tartuffe, which is great but not a neologism [heh ... heh .. heh] I like Al Cryda (brilliant, and late in the competition too) and a modification of not that kind of doctor’s entry to martyrosclerotic.
But poutrage, poutraged, poutrageous - this has a chance of making the next OED. With a photo of The Malkinator trying to make her eyes bug out further than her nose.
Jay B. said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:23
Friggin Peevus Freaks, always turning water into whine.
Jay B. said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:26
They follow Prisstianity.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:29
Mighty Martyr Powered Whiners.
No, I still like martyrbators best.
I also still think we can get them to call themselves the Morally Arrested.
Zarquon said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:30
Faketyrs.
Rightwingsnarkle said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:31
I love ‘em all, just like Jesus did.
Which reminds me of a story….
So Jesus was up there on the cross in perfect agony when a little bird flew over and landed on his shoulder. That gave Jesus an idea.
“Hey, little bird,” he whispered, “Pull that nail out of my hand.”
And the little bird did, allowing Jesus to stretch his arm and rotate his shoulder and otherwise shake the kinks out.
“Oh, yeah, that’s the ticket,” he sighed. “Now pull the nail out of my other hand.”
Which the little bird promptly did, allowing Jesus to stretch out his other arm, until…
“The feet!!!Get the feet!!!”
This joke tells better than it reads, due to the physicality (wave your arms, open your eyes real wide, fall forward, etc.). It’s a real killer for those quiet Good Fridays at the office.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:32
Also, Tartuffe is pretty awesome too, but at first I thought it was Tartuffo which is way too good for these martyrbators.
jim said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:37
Jesus is coming - quick, look busy!
Wow - this thread shines like champagne.
I’m partial to “Holy Trollers” & “martyrbators” myself.
WAHHHliban?
Salvation Smarmy?
Scorn-Agains?
Poseurlytizers?
Sullen Baptists?
Holy crap, folks, we’ve hit the mother of all mother-lodes!
Jay B. said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:40
Aquwhiners, the followers of St. Thomas hisself.
Well, it works with a Boston accent.
Jesu Cristo said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:44
I call them stupid martyr-fuckers or Republican for short.
ec1009 said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:48
Dobsonites!
Arky - Sexual Orient Express said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:48
So. The words Sexual Orientation in conjunction with the concept of not being a dick reduces the TalEvangicals into quivering lumps of jelly.
Hmmm…
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.-. .. --. .... - . --- ..- ... -... ..- -... -... .- said,
June 27, 2008 at 3:59
Al Cryda is too funny and offensive not to use on a regular basis.
Arky - Sexual Orient Express said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:00
Boobtists.
First Apoplectic Church of God.
Church of the Nazireams.
And in honor of Teddy sHaggard: Hole-he Trollers.
Candy said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:03
Salvation Smarmy
Reminds me of a joke:
A man goes into a bra shop to buy his wife a bra.
Sales clerk: What kind of bra are you looking for?
Man: There’s different kinds? (Looking around, he sees that indeed there are many different colors and styles.)
Clerk: It seems bewildering, but there are really only three basic kinds: Catholic, Salvation Army, and Baptist.
Man: (More befuddled than ever) How so?
Clerk: The Catholic bras support the masses. The Salvation Army bra bears up the fallen. And the Baptist type makes mountains out of molehills.
Candy said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:04
Jehovah’s Twitnesses
Candy said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:08
First Assembly of OMFG!!!!!111!!!
Our Dead Selves said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:09
WAHHHliban
That is pure GOLD.
I wish that I was a funny person so I didn’t always fall back on “fucktard”.
mikey said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:36
Fucktard is good.
Fucktard works
mikey
People's Republic of Colorado said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:38
Our bathrooms, let us show them to you.
PS–Utah is rightfully ours, running pig dogs.
"Janet Folger" said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:41
Janet Folger’s stupid book presumably does not propose a commercial transaction, so she can sell or give it to anybody that will put up with it.
Oh, yeah, well, what if my book title was “Buy This Book If You Hate Fags?”
Go ahead, crucify me. I knoe you want to.
"Janet Folger" said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:42
Why are the italics tags persecuting me? Knot to mention my spelling.
"Janet Folger" said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:43
I guess I shoulda used that “preview” feautre. Well, I didn’t. So go ahead! BURN me at the stake!
Our Dead Selves said,
June 27, 2008 at 4:55
Oh, yeah, well, what if my book title was “Buy This Book If You Hate Fags?”
I’m pretty sure that’s still protected speech. Unless you were unwilling to sell it to the fags.
I wouldn’t buy it but, you know, I have taste.
Smut Clyde said,
June 27, 2008 at 5:06
Martyr wanquée.
Caveat said,
June 27, 2008 at 5:08
Fundanoids?
Dr Paisley said,
June 27, 2008 at 5:32
Smiling Mortician said,
Well, someone just brought me quaich of 20-year-old Glenrothes, so I’m gonna say yeah.
Bastard. You have very good friends.
Salutations to all the contributors. Fine work by all.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 27, 2008 at 5:56
Zealouts.
Anne Laurie said,
June 27, 2008 at 6:22
Fartyrs is the best one so far, but it’s too blatant. How about “fauxrtyrs”?
She thinks she’s a public accommodation. Maybe that’s a new term for “village idiot”.
It’s an old term for the Town Whore, back when towns were small and minds were smaller. Ergo,asking our Fauxrtyr-of-the-Day “What, you think you’re some kind of *public accommodation*?” would probably inspire poutraged wails of a volume and velocity to set every dog within a three-mile radius to howling. Just a suggestion…
Crissa said,
June 27, 2008 at 7:35
We call them Obi Wan Tobies.
Nenya said,
June 27, 2008 at 9:10
Are we voting? I’m voting:
Poutraged (entering the blogospheric vocabulary as I type, or ought to be), sacrificial ham (hee!), martyrbators.
Y’all are smart & funny, and I wish these…idiots…would realize how unfair it is to decide people shouldn’t get to pee or sleep in a house because of who they love or what body they’re in. Bastards.
a concerned citizen said,
June 27, 2008 at 9:14
Persecuties
Fauxmentors
The downtwattin’
a concerned citizen said,
June 27, 2008 at 9:57
The presecuted
Atwatsles
Crucitwits
Michael Harrington said,
June 27, 2008 at 11:21
Hope she doesn’t forget to pack her harmonica. Helps pass the time in the cell and all.
Southern Beale said,
June 27, 2008 at 11:34
…believe the biblical view that homosexuality is a sin.
Well, that’s ONE Biblical view but it’s certainly not the ONLY Biblical view. Why don’t these people get that? Their interpretation of the Bible is not the only one, and there are plenty of mainstream Christians who believe otherwise. That is why we don’t teach YOUR theology in our schools, because YOURS ISN’T THE ONLY ONE!
How fucking hard is that to get?
capt. jack splatterfist said,
June 27, 2008 at 11:42
Disinjizzuits
Troll-lops
Contravershills
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
June 27, 2008 at 14:27
How fucking hard is that to get?
But, but, but. Look my personal relationship with God is the only correct one so everybody should have exactly the same personal relationship with God as I do.
You’ll note that it’s not Freedom of Religion, it’s Freedom of My Religion.
So if that’s the case, WTF is their problem with Ahmad-no queers in Iran-ineajad? Clearly all this saber-rattling and war mongering at Iran is more persatzcution of Christians. I look forward to her harnessing all that poutrage against Richard Perle.
Arky - Sexual Orient Express said,
June 27, 2008 at 14:52
Is it mentioned anywhere but Leviticus? And exactly how does a man lay with another man as he would a woman? Are we talking some Old Testament sex position or what?
However, in the “good old days” the Bible could be and was used to justify all sorts of bullshit. Like keeping Little Miss Can’t Read shut up in a kitchen … but it was still wrong.
Now hating on teh ghey is about all they’ve got left because the rest are too inconvenient to follow. I mean, if the TalEvan followed the prohibition against marrying women who’ve already been married their population would be a fuck of a lot smaller.
Righteous Bubba said,
June 27, 2008 at 15:07
Is it mentioned anywhere but Leviticus?
Yes.
JanSchoenmakers said,
June 27, 2008 at 16:28
Obviously, it is not enough for Janel Folger to be dumb as fxxk in private, she really has to give repeated demonstrations of it in public. It would be really enteraining to have her stand at, say, Pier 39 in SF, or, even better, in the French Quarter of New Orleans ranting and raving…heck, I would even provide her with food and throw some pennies!
Dan said,
June 27, 2008 at 16:32
Still taking suggestions?
sagra said,
June 27, 2008 at 16:39
Cruciphiles?
The Crucifixated?
sagra said,