MOAR Joe Teh Plumber

Joe might want to look at some building industry forecasts before he gets too worried about breaking through the class ceiling* of the $250K tax bracket.

‘Course, it’s not just the building trades, it’s bad all around:

Comptroller Revises Job Forecast Downward

Expecting a national recession to compound the effects of the Wall Street crisis, the New York City comptroller’s office is now forecasting that the city will lose 165,000 private-sector jobs over the next two years.

That would be almost twice as many as the comptroller’s office had projected three months ago, when it said that about 85,000 jobs would be lost. The difference, according to the comptroller, William C. Thompson Jr., is that the nation has slipped into a general recession with effects that will spread far beyond the financial services sector and across the whole city economy.

William C. Thompson Jr. is lucky he lives in New York. He’d be so fucking dead in Chicago.


*18 million cracks means it’s about to fall down on all our heads

 

Comments: 63

 
 
 

O HAI! I can has capital gainz releef?

 
 

I made you a Republican victory in November. But I eated it.

 
 

He’s already on the list to be rounded up and sent to OBAMA’S ISLAMOFASCIST COMPTROLLER ERADICATION FACILITY!!!11!!1!!1!!

 
Plumbob Crackpants
 

I’m already flush with cash from teh Boosh Boom and sittin’ pretty. Will soon be laughin’ at y’all’ from my new digs in St. Tropez.

 
InsaneInTheCheneyBrain
 

Did you see Trumpy talking about Bush shoulda been impeached already? F- on Iraq? I loathe the guy but he was singing truths….

 
 

I don’t make anywhere near a quarter-million dollars a year, but I’m pretty sure that McCain will make me better off by sneering at fancy pants Democrats like Obama who talk all fancy and good and sh*t.

 
 

The fact is

 
 

But what about Joe the Taxi?

 
 

The fact is, you all need to shut up. Stupid liberal USA haters.

 
Victor teh Cleaner
 

There will always be work for me.

 
 

The fact is, you can’t be Joe the Plummer without the Butt™.

 
 

The fact is one of these days soon John McCain will crash one more jet into the bridge of the Obama, and it will finally sink it.

 
 

THE picture.

D.A., please put it up. You know you want to!

 
 

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Wha?!

Oh, yeah.

And, furthermore: thbbbbt!

 
 

After watching only 30 seconds of the debate before my brain hemorrhaged, and then seeing that picture, I have no idea why this came to mind, but it is central to my point.

If I had one.

And I bet the New York Comptroller’s gonna get whacked anyway. Don’t you know that sHillary is in New York? She hasn’t killed anyone lately.

 
 

But zee bailout eez working, no?

 
 

Joe might also want to think before opening his stupid mouth and comparing Obama explaining his tax plan to Sammy Davis Jr’s tap dancing.

And look, it’s not 250K of business but 250K of profit (so subtract all the expenses of running the business including hiring employees) that Joe da plumber needs to create to hit the tax bracket. If he can get there, he can pay a bit more or alternatively, incorporate and start exploring the loophole heaven that is the American Tax Code.

 
 

I hear that one of Obama’s first acts as president will be to have a forced gay marriage between Joe Sixpack and Joe Plumber in the Rose Garden. Anyone know where they’re registered? I’m thinking maybe a nice set of beer glasses.

 
 

What’s up with the autism thing McCain was on about. Doesn’t he know that Palin’s kid has Down syndrome, not autism?

 
 

And look, it’s not 250K of business but 250K of profit ,,,

Of course. Joe the Plumber apparently thinks he’s going to be paying himself $250K+ after buying a plumbing company, which leads me to believe that:

a. Joe the Plumber is not a very good businessman, because in almost all cases of a small to mid-sized plumbing business that would simply be raping your company of its profits in a completely unsustainable way

or

b. Joe the Plumber is buying, like, Amalgamated National Plumbing, Inc., in which case Joe the Plumber probably already has over $250K in income, plus lots more socked away

 
 

Joe the Plumber Logic is impervious to all this crud! Joe the Plumber knows what will happen if Obama’s tax plan is implemented.

COURIC: Well, he supposedly will raise taxes only on people who make over $250,000 a year. Would you be in that category?

WURZELBACHER: Not right now at presently, but, you know, question, so he’s going to do that now for people who make $250,000 a year. When’s he going to decide that $100,000 is too much, you know? I mean, you’re on a slippery slope here. You vote on somebody who decides that $250,000 and you’re rich? And $100,000 and you’re rich? I mean, where does it end? You know, that’s – people got to ask that question.

Where does will it end? Where, oh where will it end?

 
 

Where does will it end? Where, oh where will it end?

 
Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico
 

Yeah, that kind of slippery slope is pretty much evidence he’s a prick.

“And what happens when $10,000 is too rich? MEN WILL BE MARRYING THEIR DOGS!”

 
 

I was reading Marx last night and missed the debate. What’s all this ‘Joe the Plumber’ stuff? Were they talking about Watergate or something?

 
 

Well, Boston Charlie, Joe the Plumber just wants to own the means of production but Obama is going to stop him by putting him on the slippery slope of maybe taxing him $900 more than he pays now if he declares $280,000 adjusted gross income.

 
 

I thought Obama’s response last night was both measured and honest. It’s nice to see that he has a comfortable enough lead that he didn’t feel the need to duck a difficult topic.

Yes, he’s going to raise Joe’s taxes on his business, to the extent that he makes more than $250K

It’s the “to the extent” bit that most people who have an eye on becoming richer miss and the GOP exploits for fear.

It’s the same logic that drove the “death tax” rallying cry. Most people, including Joe, will never ever have to worry about making so much more than they’ll even see one penny of that tax increase (businesses with new owners tend to LOSE money in the period immediately following the change of ownership, but you’d never want to admit that on the hustings).

 
 

And look, it’s not 250K of business but 250K of profit (so subtract all the expenses of running the business including hiring employees) that Joe da plumber needs to create to hit the tax bracket.

True, but the IRS is merciless on small business deductions. It’s not as little as you might think.

 
 

Joe the Plumber is this year’s Anti-Choice blonde girl from the ’04 townhall debate. Why do the Dems even engage these assholes? They should just say, “Listen, I know you’re not going to vote for me, so good luck with that.”

As to the $250K thing, I’d like to see one single example of someone who turned down a pay raise or a business opportunity because the amount of extra taxes actually lowered their net income. WTF?

 
 

Schadenfreudgasms a-go-go: current scuttlebuttocks is that Plumber Joe is related to Charles Keating…

 
 

“When’s he going to decide that $100,000 is too much, you know? I mean, you’re on a slippery slope here. You vote on somebody who decides that $250,000 and you’re rich? And $100,000 and you’re rich?”

As opposed to the guy who honestly believes that a mere $4.9 million STILL doesn’t qualify as “rich” yet. I think most Americans at this point don’t have much of a problem determining that one candidate is actually living in the real world, while the other uses a private jet for personal transportation & has people being paid to clean, cook & shop for him.

Stick to installing sinks & toilets, Joe – you’re economically illiterate.

 
 

They should just say, “Listen, I know you’re not going to vote for me, so good luck with that.”

Because a planted question like that is one that he has to answer or he’s going to face charges of elitism or worse.

Besides, it gave him a great opportunity to put out some detail on his plans for the rest of us to better understand him.

 
 

Joe the Plumber on Social Security.

 
 

Joe the Plumber was ready to get on Thomas the Tank Engine to Prosperity before Barack the Other moved Goalsy the Goalposts on Dream the American. Luckily John the Maverick was around to throw Bill the Weatherman onto Slippery the Slope to halt Joe the Plumber’s slide into Karl the Marx Brothers’ communist inferno.

 
 

So I’m confused, is Joe the plumber making $250K per year or just contemplating who to vote for based on the prospect of one day making that much. If his customers have the impression that he’s rolling in the dough aren’t they going to be looking at his job quotes a little more carefully?

“Joe, if you’re making that much money do you really need to charge me $300 to fix this leaky faucet? Can’t you do better than that?”.

I bet a lot of his fellow plumbers aren’t too happy with him bringing so much attention to how lucrative a field they’re in for a lot of other reasons too.

 
 

This is a bit rich.

 
 

Neiwert says Joe the Plumber is related to Charles Keating.

 
 

This is a bit rich.

I keep refreshing the blogs that steal African press content but nothing yet.

 
 

I’ll get you, my pretty! And your little dog, too!

 
 

Perhaps if you’re gonna use Joe The Plumber, you should erase his bio first.

 
 

J – I don’t think there’ll be the kind of kerning done on Joe the Plumber that wingnuts do, nor will the shrieking be 1% of a typical Malkinfest if any dirt gets dug up … but York’s right that the guy’s going to get scrutinized a bit (see Neiwert on the Keating connection, which of course isn’t salacious, just interesting).

The whole lefty-allies-in-the-MSM thing is, of course, just more cynical working of the refs on York’s part.

 
 

I keep refreshing the blogs that steal African press content but nothing yet.

Right now API’s recent posts list is cluttered with letters of advice from kooks on this side of the Atlantic. That’s not even blogging.

 
 

“I bet a lot of his fellow plumbers aren’t too happy with him bringing so much attention to how lucrative a field they’re in for a lot of other reasons too.”

I doubt they’re much worried. It’s a tiring, uncomfortable and (often quite literally) shitty job. Most of us could do most of our own plumbing repairs. Most of us really don’t want to.

 
 

He’s actually Joe ‘The Unlicensed’ Plumber.

Some things get better with age.

 
 

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J— said,

October 16, 2008 at 18:51

This is a bit rich.

Heh, the students have become the masters!

 
 

Neiwert says Joe the Plumber is related to Charles Keating.

To give full credit, as it is due, it was right wing blogger Martin Eisenstein who uncovered his family history.

Apparently, his cousin is Keating’s son-in-law.

 
 

Apparently, his cousin is Keating’s son-in-law.

Alas, that’s a little more dull than it could have been.

 
 

As to the $250K thing, I’d like to see one single example of someone who turned down a pay raise or a business opportunity because the amount of extra taxes actually lowered their net income. WTF?

Reagan likes to claim he did, and to this day Republicans weep big, fat tears about him being taxed so much on his sixth 1960s million.

I think the Democrats are as complicit as the Republicans in this. Taxes are a good thing – they’re onerous sometimes, but you’re buying a service along with everyone else. You’re building schools, roads, and homes, helping people through rough times, keeping the country strong and keeping its future bright. And yet we’ve been encouraged by our rat-race culture to treat putting a dollar into the machine and not immediately getting a blowjob as an affront.

The Democrats and Republicans offer tax ‘relief’ to the poor and rich – and call them ‘middle class’. This is particularly perfidious in the case of the actual middle class, because those taxes are the only regular opportunity someone making $30,000 in an office is going to get to change things seriously for the better. And ultimately, the difference is a few hundred bucks for you and millions of dollars for society.

If people talked about ‘relief’ from family or society or, God forbid, church the way they did about taxes, how much you want to bet Joe would all of a sudden get suspicious? That is, if he weren’t a Republican crank trying to gotcha a candidate with a stupid question about something meaningless.

 
Joe the Fookin' Idiot
 

So, I’m currently making $45k and paying $5k in federal income tax. And you’re offering me a job that pays $90k but requires me to pay $12k in federal income tax? Well, fuck NO! I couldn’t possibly accept paying more than double in federal income taxes, never mind the extra $38k in take-home pay. It just ain’t FAIR!!

What’s WRONG with you people??!!

 
 

If there were a political slaughter rule, it would have to come into play when a clearly prearranged last-ditch rhetorical stunt to derail any serious conversation leads to the other guy looking good in the process.

It’s the equivalent of Bristol Palin, on the surreal white-by-astounding-collective-ignorance wedding her mother seems to want to force her to have the week before the election, announcing that she can’t do it – that she’s fallen in love with a real man who satisfies her body, mind, and soul in a way that trout-fucker never could, and a shrill air horn just outside the threshhold draws attention to Bill Ayers on a Vespa.

Which, I am told, is trading at $70 on intrade as of today.

 
 

There’s been a Wurzelbacher googling frenzy goin’ on over to Teh Great Orange Satan. Apparently, there’s fookin’ Wurzelbachers everywhere related to pretty much everybody. It’s like “Six Degrees of Joe Wurzelbacher.” We’re surrounded by ’em! There may, in fact, be more Wurzelbachers in the United States than there are Taliban in Afghanistan. And that doesn’t even account for the Wurzelbachers who may have changed their name to something “easier.”

Like, “Weinerschnitzel.”

 
 

There may, in fact, be more Wurzelbachers in the United States than there are Taliban in Afghanistan.

You didn’t just hit the nail on the head, you drove the goddamn nailgun into the wall and now we have to go get another. Good going, Belisarius.

 
 

There may, in fact, be more Wurzelbachers in the United States than there are Taliban in Afghanistan.

I heard that Joe the Plumber is Al Wurzelbachers’ number two…

 
Zog teh Tralfamadorean
 

Obama explaining his tax plan to Sammy Davis Jr’s tap dancing.
FFrrrrrttt

 
 

Apparently, there’s fookin’ Wurzelbachers everywhere related to pretty much everybody. It’s like “Six Degrees of Joe Wurzelbacher.” We’re surrounded by ‘em!

OK, so who’s opening the CafePress store on THIS meme?

 
 

I’m a Wurzelbacher!

 
Rugged in Montana
 

Look, LIEbrals, the fact that Joe the Plumber can’t legally work as a plumber in his state, doesn’t have anywhere close to the money to buy out the company he was claiming he was going to buy out and is a GOP plant with secret McCain/Keating connections is just a distraction from the real issue: that Obama is a socialist who is going to steal from the average blue collar worker in The Heartland, all of whom make more than $250,000 a year. When are you Commies gonna wise up to the fact that Obama is trying to steal this election by getting voters registered to vote?

 
 

Rugged,

You left out that he’s now been unmasked as a tax evader!

 
ComptrollerSpokesGuy
 

I wanted to share with your readers more details about New York City Comptroller Bill Thompson’s economic analysis and forecast. In his office’s column, “The C-Note” – at http://www.comptroller.nyc.gov – we asked: “The question remains: how bad will it be for New York City? Forecasting the course of unpredictable events with a false certainty would be highly misleading—it is like trying to assess the damage from a hurricane when the eye of the storm is still overhead. We, are, however, continually revising our calculations in light of unfolding events. Our current forecast anticipates that as many as 165,000 private-sector jobs will be lost throughout the city’s economy over the next 24 months, which compares to a forecast of 85,000 jobs lost in the Comptroller’s most recent budget report, issued in July. We now believe that as many as 35,000 of those job losses may come in the financial services industry; our previous forecast was that the industry would contract by 25,000 jobs. The differences reflect the spreading of the economic troubles to other industry sectors as the nation slips into a general recession.”

 
 

Shorter ComptrollerSpokesGuy:

Shit sandwiches for everyone!!

 
 

ComptrollerSpokesGuy,

It’s comedy. We’re allowed. We don’t need no stinkin’ facts!

 
 

And yes, that’s an area code so don’t piss me off or I vote for Quinn, capisci????

 
 

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