No Good Is Interred With These Bones
My grandmother taught me that it is improper to speak ill of the dead when you can let other people do it for you.
I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure.
-Clarence Darrow
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I didn’t attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.
-Mark Twain
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He died on July 4, 2008, slitting his wrists in a washtub out back beneath the pecan tree and writing “I’ve been a bad boy” in his own blood. The skins of several children were found drying in his attic, swarms of horseflies going in and out of the eaves. His wife was quoted on CNN as saying “I always wondered about Jesse’s collection of little shoes.”
Helms was a piece of shit, and I’m glad he’s finally dead. Too bad he didn’t live long enough to see Obama being sworn in, though.
I’d take the wingnut’s demands for “civility” and “respect” more seriously if they hadn’t been jacking off for years to the video of Saddam being executed or the assault on Falluja or whichever Al-Qaida #3 we killed this week etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
A guy who could reasonably be said to have caused far, far more harm than good (if any good) has died. I don’t think it’s out of line to be happy about it. Like Mr. Twain, I to approve of this funeral.
I don’t get this whole not speaking ill of the dead thing. That’s the perfect time! They can’t answer back! With some people, that’s the only way to ever get the last word. Ever.
My only regret is that no one ever considered it worth the fifty-cent bullet to blow this two-bit racist son of a bitch away.
Hmmm, I wonder if this is the change Obama was talking about…
Wow, I sound angry and uncivil up there. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that people like Helms are why my parents have spent their lives convinced that all white people are deceitful and malicious creatures.
So as far as I’m concerned, one less deceitful, malicious bastard in the world is a plus.
He looks like an evil Piglet. Like, if Piglet was in Animal Farm. No animal shall p-p-p-p-partake of alcohol… in excess.
Wingnuts have been commenting that it is telling that such a ‘patriot’ would pass away on the 4th of July. Hey, if that is all it takes, please, republicans, to show your patriotism, stop wearing lapel pins, and just drop dead on the 4th. See, it’s so easy.
His soul died several decades ago. Fucking vampire.
Did they stake the bastard before they buried its corpse?
I look at the list of famous politicians and statesmen who died on the 4th and my brain immediately starts singing:
“One of these things is not like the others…”
Fuck that bastard. Sayonara, motherfucker.
Just in case anyone needs a reminder of why this guy was a shitbag until the last days of his life:
Soon after the Senate vote on the Confederate flag insignia, Sen. Jesse Helms (R.-N.C.) ran into Mosely-Braun in a Capitol elevator. Helms turned to his friend, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah), and said, “Watch me make her cry. I’m going to make her cry. I’m going to sing ‘Dixie’ until she cries.” He then proceeded to sing the song about the good life during slavery to Mosely-Braun (Gannett News Service, 9/2/93; Time, 8/16/93).
A 72 year old man deliberately taunting a fellow Senator with a racist jibe. Fucker.
If you want to cheer yourself up click on this link and download the MP3 “Why won’t Jesse Helms just hurry up and die?” and boogie on his grave.
Eighty-six years too many, that sack of shit walked this earth.
Soj, that one gets a “wow”. Just “wow”.
By all rights, she should have kicked him in the nuts. I think that’s a goodly part of the problem with turds like that. People don’t kick them in the nuts nearly often enough.
A friend of mine emailed me after Reagan croaked:
Seriously. Good riddance.
>>I’d take the wingnut’s demands for “civility” and “respect” more seriously if they hadn’t been jacking off for years to the video of Saddam being executed or the assault on Falluja or whichever Al-Qaida #3 we killed this week etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Or if they didn’t laugh when the IDF ran over Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer…
Now now, folks. You know this only gives shielding to wingnuts. Soon, someone who is not a racist scumbag will die, and wingnuts will say awful things about him, and when we call them on it, they will say “Oh, but you said such awful things about Jesse Helms when he died.”
That said, I would like to join my fellow commentatorizers in saying bon voyage, good bye and good riddance to a truly low and contemptible human being. It’s not every day that we lose an epic troll. Jesse Helms gave a bad name to cracker scumbags, and in a truly rational society he would have long ago been strangled in his sleep. Mr. Helms, if there is a Hell, I know you are there. I can only hope that the devil is black. And gay.
Well, someone on a forum I frequent already said that he hopes we remember how we treated this *great patriot* when Ted Kennedy croaks, because he’s going to treat his death the way we treated that of Mr. Honorary Klansman Helms.
Shyeah, like the person in question *wasn’t* going to have a big gooey hatewank over Ted Kennedy’s death. Now he’ll just mask his gloating in pious “but YOU did it first!” excuses.
I refuse to take lessons on civility from the cocksuckers who invented the nickname “Saint Pancake”.
Fuck Jesse Helms and fuck amyone who has anything nice to say about him after his death. The man lived an obscene life. He didn’t deserve a natural death at an advanced age.
And by amyone I mean anyone
If people want me to feel bad, maybe I’ll show my grieving by wearing a purple heart bandaid like good Republicans.
Yeah, Brandi, thanks for mentioning that. Some people seem to believe that kindness on our part is going to buy kindness from our political enemies. This seems to me like a naive way of looking at the political reality of today.
I’ve been waiting for a looooooong time for this.
Today, I invoke the great African American standup comedian George Wallace – “What’s with this phrase ‘he died an untimely death?’ I mean, what exactly is a timely death?? I’m waiting to hear this one day on the News: ‘Senator Jesse Helms died today…and it’s about Goddamn time!!'”
I just hope this made the day’s BBQ’s and festivities that much more delightful for black Americans and gays everywhere.
Sadly, my grandmother was much less concerned with protocol than yours.
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A great patriot who stood for USA and freedom died on our sacred holiday, and you angry deluded leftists can only desecerate his memory. Just remember when Ted Kennedy dies, he deserves the same treatment, even if the liberal bias media makes him a saint.
The liberal bias media: at least in wingnut-world they’ve got TVs advanced enough to put in your ties.
On the tactical problem of nastiness at Jesse Helms coming back to haunt us: I wouldn’t associate any Republican with Helms, because I think it’s unfair; they wouldn’t agree with most of what he believed and the few things they had in common were things Helms largely pretended to believe in for political advantage.
Compare him to Strom Thurmond and, remarkably, the former son of a bitch actually looks good. He had a discernable, if perverse, ideology, and he never quite got into the later Republican habit of saying ‘states’ rights’ purely to mean ‘segregation forever’. If an honest word ever left Helms’s mouth in his life it was by accident.
And presuming that thrashing Helms is going to tweak with the right-wingers is like presuming that thrashing Stalin is going to tweak with us: I’m not fond of the political goals of most people who do, but for fuck’s sake.
I’m just thrilled that Jesse finally has to face this guy again.
Rot in hell, scumbag.
If Jesse don’t like it … well, he can just go straight to hell now.
Well, someone on a forum I frequent already said that he hopes we remember how we treated this *great patriot* when Ted Kennedy croaks, because he’s going to treat his death the way we treated that of Mr. Honorary Klansman Helms.
Hey, have at it. I’m not exactly a huge fan of his, but I think his legacy will stand up to some Freepers posting photos of tiny violins when he dies. Helms’ legacy, meanwhile, couldn’t be scoured clean of his bigotry and hatred with all the hagiography in the world. Say whatever you like about the dead guy: it’s what he did while he was alive that matters. And by that measure, Helms was scum, and no amount of not speaking ill of the dead will help him now.
And for the record, I don’t hope Satan’s gay and black. I hope *God* is, and female on top of it.
As I said earlier, BB (and I know, it’s on a forum, so you can’t do it), somebody, when that cobag acquaintance of yours pipes up with “Chappaquiddick” upon Teddy’s demise, somebody needs to lean a bit back, pretend to turn away, and lay a great nasty 60 yard field goal straight to his testicles. When, between gasps, he whines “Why in the hell did you do that?”, said somebody needs to remind him of his little tit for tattedness, relate the elevator story above, and then kick him in the nuts again.
Harold Jackson did a nice obit in the Guardian:
The rest here.
There’s still a lot of wingtards who’d be to the right of Helms. But on the issue of the Right saying how mean we were to dump all over Jessie Helms – I say let them. If they want to defend the racist fuckwad, then I say, give them as big a microphone as they can get. And when they’re done, we’ll get them to do the same thing for Pinochet, because that’s what Jesse would have wanted.
Previously, my comment about the passing of Jesse Helms was restrained and measured. So I apologize for that, the correct response is, of course, fuck that guy. It’s a shame he went peacefully in his sleep, and not by being fucking lit on fire by military goons.
Let’s all go piss on his grave.
BTW, who says Bush will leave no legacy?
Then there’s the WSJ’s John Fund, performing a particularly repulsive bit of necrophiliac fellatio on not one, but two dead Rethug reptiles.
No, I don’t know how they live with themselves.
Yeah, Brandi, thanks for mentioning that. Some people seem to believe that kindness on our part is going to buy kindness from our political enemies. This seems to me like a naive way of looking at the political reality of today.
Being kind that has nothing to do with political utility. If you’re being kind for the sake of some future benefit, you’re not being kind at all; you’re just selling a service (acting like you care) for some imagined future benefit.
Do you think the kind of guy who’s going to crow when Ted Kennedy dies cares at all what anyone who might regret his passing might think? I sure don’t. Having a big ol’ hatewank on Helms’ death isn’t bad because of the political consequences, for cryin’ out loud. It’s bad if you think it’s a decent thing to do not to piss on the memory of the recently-deceased. And, of course, not bad if you think that’s A-OK. The consequences, such as they are, are all personal.
It’s bad if you think it’s a decent thing to do not to piss on the memory of the recently-deceased. And, of course, not bad if you think that’s A-OK. The consequences, such as they are, are all personal.
I seriously intend my death to be followed by a modest wake and funeral, a no-frills burial beneath a good, solid, useful tree, and a week of vigorous and sustained excoriation. I really feel that if anyone addresses me a single good word after my death – counting out accidents, obviously – they’ve squandered my legacy.
Really, it makes sense. Hagiographic funerals are kind of samey, and what chance is there like death to really lay into a guy?
Liberals=HATE USA
Conservatives=SUPPORT FREEDOM
ONE-DAY TWENTY-FOUR HOURS GOD = EDUCATED STUPID LIE WORLD
As I believe HST said about Nixon, his body should be burned in a garbage can.
And didn’t Bozo the Clown die yesterday, too? Which one of the two caused more children to have nightmares?
Can’t resist….
Liberals=HATE USA that George Bush created.
Conservatives=SUPPORT FREEDOM as long as it doesn’t get in the way of creating MORE MISERY!!
fixed.
They gave his place in heaven to a minority
You needed that job, and they gave it to some buck-lipped nigra. Liberals! They hate usa.
Looks like Chris Muir’s gotten into that Jesse Helms spirit.
Helms, in full possession of his faculties, openly admired and gave comfort and support to murderous dictators of 1980’s Central and South America, who have left a pile of human bones so large that if it could be all gathered in one place, they could be arranged to spell “FUCK YOU JESSE” in letters high enough to be read from orbit.
I’ll be ready when that comes. Jesse Helms’ shit stinks right down through the floor.
Great patriot, my ass. Petty-minded bigot is what he was. Nothing more. EVER. Having re-read the story of his life I find nothing to redeem it.
Holy shit! Check out the 7/4/08 Day by Day strip. Tell me that’s not Freedom Pundit in her arms.
Whatever.
The net total of evil and hatred in the world is reduced, but only insignificantly.
Helms was a vicious bigot, but he’s had no power to impact american politics in like ten years. If I was a religious fellow, I’d be smiling that he’s at least gotta face judgment now, but since I don’t believe in fairy tales, I know he’s just compost in a box.
Take a few minutes to cheer if you wish, then start thinking about the foul bigots and criminals still roiling the waters of our lives.
Cheney has done more harm than ten Helms coulda, and last time I looked he was still stalking the halls of power, looking for an opportunity to kill and destroy some more…
mikey
You needed that casket, but they gave it to some immigrant on a quota.
To those of you who insist on linking to Chris Muir cartoons: you can go join Jesse Helms in hell.
I know, troll feeding and all that, but…
our sacred holiday
our sacred holiday
Yeah, I think the only way Independence Day could be considered “sacred” is if there’s some obscure cult that worships a deity called “America” who was “born” on this day. (Kind of like the way the Romans had the goddess Roma who embodied the city itself.)
Oh, my gods. That explains a lot, doesn’t it?
Although it is fun to watch a bunch of self-professed Christians commit this blatant idolatry and blasphemy. Usually they stop at just heresy.
Yeah, Brandi, thanks for mentioning that. Some people seem to believe that kindness on our part is going to buy kindness from our political enemies. This seems to me like a naive way of looking at the political reality of today.
To me, it’s more that, having watched the behavior of the Bush crowd and its supporters, once they’ve decided to do something odious and are questioned about it, they tend to reply, with a quivering and out-thrust lower lip, “B-B-But they did it first!” Just look at the attempts to justify torture, where they try to say both “B-B-But they did it first!” and “We’re better than that so nyah!”
“But you did it first” is the excuse most often used by kids who are about to get a good spanking over some particularly obnoxious activity. Usually under age 9 too, which puts it right at the social and intellectual level of your average Freeper squatting on the intertubes.
Cheney’s never going to die. He’s going to be replaced part by part, like the Tin Man. Who also didn’t have a heart.
Well, there was that whole Columbia as a sort of secular goddess personifying the United States thing.
he hopes we remember how we treated this *great patriot* when Ted Kennedy croaks, because he’s going to treat his death the way we treated that of Mr. Honorary Klansman Helms.
Sure thing. Then he can quote all the times Ted Kennedy said racist or bigoted things, tormented colleagues in elevators, told the President of the United States he wasn’t safe from US troops, and race-baited the vote.
what? Chappaquidick is all he’s got?
Nope. That’s Jonah Goldberg.
The Philly CP article has great unintended tag structure: “Goodbye, news; I call shenanigans.”
Good God:
Holy shit! Check out the 7/4/08 Day by Day strip. Tell me that’s not Freedom Pundit in her arms.
Oh. Right. 7/4 strip. I got there on 7/5 and was treated to the sexist strip. Nice.
Jesse Helms? Died in 1965. The only thing keeping the corpse animated was the venom.
There’s a button marked “end” underneath those Day by Day strips, but it does not bring about the desired result.
Looks like Chris Muir’s gotten into that Jesse Helms spirit.
And the first panel contains this inanity: “today’s ‘Black & White’ audience numbers are slow“.
Can someone explain to me how numbers can be slow? I know cartoonists can be slow, but numbers?
That’s a new artist drawing Chris Muir’s crap since the last time it impacted my retinas.
Helms did not appear out of nowhere. He was freely elected and reelected and reelected. The children of those microscopic minded voters will probably, have probably, voted for candidates who are equally soul and compassion challenged.
and people wonder why I think that much of humanity is like a plague on an otherwise decent planet.
From Wikipedia:
Editing of this article by new or unregistered users is currently disabled due to vandalism.
Vandalism isn’t the word I would use. I think hilariously-inappropriate pwning is closer.
“I’m so old-fashioned I believe in horse whipping”
Jesse Helms
In a debate in 1991 on Aids
Pretty much says it all.
Oh. Right. 7/4 strip. I got there on 7/5 and was treated to the sexist strip. Nice.
The guy’s strips have way too many creepy masturbation undertones.
The guy’s strips have way too many creepy masturbation undertones.
Where are all the healthy masturbation overtones?
it’s time some able cartoonist hacked the day by day cartoon, putting the woman in clothing and the man in awkward injurious sexualized positions.
Ok, sure, whatever.
But just exactly WHAT is she doing the last panel of todays strip?
Picking her nose?
Lighting a joint?
Tweaking at her face?
It’s impossible to tell…
mikey
Answer: All of the above.
Tell me that’s not Freedom Pundit in her arms.
I wonder if Muir’s experimenting with various ways to depict Down Syndrome, either to elicit mawkish sympathy or as a set up for future strips where developmental disabilities are central to his ‘punch lines.’
Helms did not appear out of nowhere. He was freely elected and reelected and reelected…
But never, according to Wikipedia, by more than a narrow margin. At least 45% of North Carolina voters chose to vote “against” their own narrowest interests, in the sense where Jesse’s fellow bigots and monsters were always willing to vote some “pork” for a state that desperately needed whatever scraps could be gleaned from Big Tobacco’s feast.
I’m from Massachusetts. When Ted Kennedy was hospitalized, the media had no trouble finding fellow legislators — even those from the wrong side of the aisle — who looked like they’d been punched when they heard the news. And every local channel had people, not newsmakers, testifying to a myriad of large and small good deeds done by the Senator. Ted Kennedy will be remembered as a man who emerged from the very long shadows of his exemplary family to commit one large and stupid wrong for which he spent fifty-some years expiating. Jesse Helms will be remembered as a homunculous who applauded every vile political act committed during his lifetime, and I’m not seeing an outpouring of personal memories that would mitigate his public stance.
And by Gawd, any day when you can use “expiating” in a sentence is a VERY good day!
mikey
In case anyone hasn’t already heard it, here’s a very respectful tribute to the late Jesse Helms:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igvJ1Mew6Go
Bonus Rush Limbaugh tribute as well. I felt much better about life after listening to it.
Speaking ill of the dead causes Turdpress to eat your favicon.
I’m from Massachusetts. When Ted Kennedy was hospitalized, the media had no trouble finding fellow legislators — even those from the wrong side of the aisle — who looked like they’d been punched when they heard the news. And every local channel had people, not newsmakers, testifying to a myriad of large and small good deeds done by the Senator. Ted Kennedy will be remembered as a man who emerged from the very long shadows of his exemplary family to commit one large and stupid wrong for which he spent fifty-some years expiating. Jesse Helms will be remembered as a homunculous who applauded every vile political act committed during his lifetime, and I’m not seeing an outpouring of personal memories that would mitigate his public stance.
Yeah, that’s what kills the comparison. Ted Kennedy was the youngest son of a father who would have ridden his incurious playboy middle son into an early grave (between the excruciating pain and the seriously bleak private outlook on life, JFK wasn’t the kind of man who you got the feeling pursued high office purely of his own accord) and who would have done the same to the next if he hadn’t gone after him. He had a pretty remarkable home life, and he’s done good by America and mankind with the elite background he has.
You look at America’s other political elite, and the best any of them are doing are sucking AT&T’s eggs, fucking up Ohio, and running as Playtime Mormon Reagan. Ted Kennedy’s done the most good of perhaps any man alive in America by that increasingly-pervasive (and thus increasingly-ignored) dictum about great power and great responsibility.
He is one of those men America doesn’t breed any more, and while that’s generally for the best, anyone who cheers at Ted Kennedy’s death and mourns Jesse Helms’s doesn’t even have the basic respect for decency in authority you find among fascists and other dogs.
anyone who cheers at Ted Kennedy’s death and mourns Jesse Helms’s doesn’t even have the basic respect for decency in authority you find among fascists and other dogs.
I bet most of those who would cheer Kennedy’s death and mourn Helms’ would do so because a non-decent authority ordered them to. I doubt they’d even be able to tell you why one man was “good” and the other not.
Do fascists have respect for decency in authority? I’d have thought they assumed authority conferred decency, completely detached from any facts about how a person in authority actually behaved.
His wife was quoted on CNN as saying “I always wondered about Jesse’s collection of little shoes.”
That was a hilarious bit from the late, great Bill Hicks. Gotta give credit.
Do fascists have respect for decency in authority? I’d have thought they assumed authority conferred decency, completely detached from any facts about how a person in authority actually behaved.
The proof’s in the pudding there, and in general decent authorities tend to last longer in any but the most surreally horrible climate (like, say, North Carolina) than horrifyingly venal ones.
…in general decent authorities tend to last longer in any but the most surreally horrible climate…
OK, that sounds about right. And I suppose the less-decent who stick around for too long are due for a fairly explicit expression of the people’s opinion of them – Il Duce comes to mind.
Yeah, and it says a lot about us having a state – a fairly middle-of-the-road one – that manages to be outdone in public taste by the fucking Italian Social Republic.
America is basically what Wikipedia would be if it were officially – rather than unofficially – devoted to people’s pictures of their own dicks.
That Wikipedia blurb wasn’t original work, it was from a Bill Hicks routine.
[citation needed] http://poetv.com/video.php?vid=38867
Just settin’ the record straight.
Ah, beaten to the punch. Well done, folks
And Columbia was, of course, superseded by Uncle Sam in the early 20th century. I wonder who or what will embody the republic in this post-industrial and post-imperial century.
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July 6, 2008 at 0:36
And Columbia was, of course, superseded by Uncle Sam in the early 20th century. I wonder who or what will embody the republic in this post-industrial and post-imperial century.
The Noid.
Too late to be earnest, too early to be ironic. They tell you to avoid him; you know they don’t mean it, but fucking avoid him.
You can practically hear the purple mountains majesting.
In point of fact, the fact that I know about that horrible little ad campaign is pretty good evidence America hardly deserves such a noble mascot – I was born in 1987 in a city with only one fucking pizza franchise, and it wasn’t that one.
But the larger point stands.
Helms’s death is on the front cover of both the major newspapers here in Boise, and they both call him a friend of the Right and a lion of conservative causes.
This is why conservatism must be destroyed for the good of humanity.
>>He’s a likeable guy >>
Oh my God in heaven…give me a break! ! !
A likeable guy who just happens to be a warlusting
murderer of American Troops .
A likeable guy who has no remorse for a wrong war and
no respect for the problems facing AVERAGE working
Americans today.
Of course, Bill Hicks died of pancreatic cancer in 1994, at the age of 32. That, combined with Helms’ long life, is about as good a proof as any that if there is a supernatural Creator of All Things, he or she hates us.
Apparently, Helms was suffering with dementia in his final years. I hope he had African-American carers who gently reminded him who he was with a cheery ‘time for your mashed banana, Mr Cracker Asshole.’
His best career move yet – keeling over dead.
Better late than never.
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So sad to here about Helms’ death.
Hey, has Sabbathia been traded by the Indians yet?
The best thing about Helms’ death, is watching the wingnuts piss themselves over the lack of civility the unwashed left is showing, while simultaneously stumbling to find ways to praise the man without looking like the same bigoted cunt Helms was.
Evil people have this tendency to hang on quite grimly.
It’s almost as though they know something bad awaits them.
Shit, I’m almost beginning to regret deleting my blog. Damn, that wikipedia article was funny.
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