White House aides say Bush, who majored in history at Yale, likes to emphasize historical comparisons because they are easy for the public to understand and illustrate in dramatic fashion how differently future generations may come to view him.

That’s funny- I majored in history, too, and remember most leaders through the ages who whipped out the ol’ “History will vindicate me” line usually were pretty wrong.

Easy for the public to understand? Have these dopes even bothered to commence to consider checking the opinion polls? Whatever rhetorical trick they’re trying, fail.

What’s up with those two?

Well, we eventually came out of the Great Depression, so clearly Hoover’s approach has been vindicated, just like all the conservatives say he has.

Does anyone know of an example of a president that was judged to suck big time by his contemporaries, but is viewed positively by historians? And no, Reagan doesn’t count. He still sucks, in retrospect.

The highest level of “success” I think Bush could possibly snare would be on par with Grover Cleveland. Big issues avoided, party meltdown…but hey, some better presidents came along so nothing bad long-term. So that’s Bush’s greatest hope: We get a couple of decades of solid leadership in the White House after him, so whatever bad course he led us on is halted.

Of course, Cleveland didn’t start wars. So nevermind.

Does anyone know of an example of a president that was judged to suck big time by his contemporaries, but is viewed positively by historians?

Carter?

Does anyone know of an example of a president that was judged to suck big time by his contemporaries, but is viewed positively by historians?

Truman is Exhibit A. And though he hardly gets favorable marks, some historians do credit Nixon for some wtf olive branches to progressivism.

Oh, and most historians agree that Taft got a bad rap.

Yale in its turn wishes the White House aides would shut the hell up.

But it is true that Bush favors historical comparisons. Or at least his unique interpretation of history (what the proles, elitists, homos and baby killers call “Lies”) which amount to “I’m Winston Churchill and anyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi sympathiser.”

In a rare signed WaPo op-ed today, Fred Hiatt announced that the Senate report confirming Bush, Cheney & Co. lied us into war with Iraq actually means that Bush, Cheney & Co. didn’t lie us into war with Iraq.

It’s a big, wide, wonderful world we live in.

Vice President Cheney has also argued that history will vindicate Bush. Speaking at a Washington luncheon last week, Cheney recalled that former president Gerald R. Ford was “attacked from every conceivable angle” for pardoning Richard M. Nixon, but he said that “the consensus now is that Gerald Ford did the right thing.”

So, 59-32 now represents consensus. He’d better hope that they either don’t do any more polls, or that his numbers have improved since last year.

Once I appoint Mr. Paul Mooney Commissar of History, you bet your cracker ass Connecticut Cowboy will be the worst ever.

It will, in fact, taking a huge steaming dump all over his face.

Is funny with mock Russian accent, yes?

Would you like some tea? I would ’cause I’m Winston Churchill. Would you like a crumpet? I would because I’m Winston Churchill.

Vice President Cheney has also argued that history will vindicate Bush. Speaking at a Washington luncheon last week, Cheney recalled that former president Gerald R. Ford was “attacked from every conceivable angle” for pardoning Richard M. Nixon, but he said that “the consensus now is that Gerald Ford did the right thing.”

Right.

Consensus then: Ford did a lousy thing when he pardoned Nixon.
Consensus now: Well, Ford died, so I guess we shouldn’t keep dwelling on it.

Yeah, that’s solid support.

Will Paul Mooney’s white house Q&As be called “Ask a Black Dude”?

Sean Wilentz: …”By just saying, ‘In the long run this is going to look great,’ it makes it very hard to respond to”…

Uh, no, it’s not very hard at all, Sean.

A. Laugh until you cry.

OR

B. Tell them they are all fucking idiots in addition to being war criminals.

OR

C. Both of the above.

I mean, come on. Wilentz almost literally wrote the fucking book, or at least the definitive essay on how history is likely to view these assholes.

Me, I wish I could view them through the bars of their cells.

“Vindicate”?

You keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means.

Me, I wish I could view them through the bars of their cells.

Plexiglass, too. Monkeys tend to throw feces through cage bars. As far as I’m concerned, I’ve had enough of their shit already.

W prepares his legacy:

1. Flip through The Big Book of History.
2. Make lame speech before captive audience.
3. Vindication!!

I don’t know if Dumbya’s policies will be vindicated so much as avenged.

Well, obviously these historians are all a bunch of egghead liberals that would never have liked him anyway! Apparently Bush is hoping that the whole “liberal academics” thing conservatives are always whining about will just reselve itself. And when it does… VINDICATION!

“History” may judge him as a success sometime between when pigs fly and when hell freezes over.

I dunno … IMHO Ford was right to pardon Nixon. We really did need to get beyond Watergate.

OTOH, the pardon that was fo’ real destructive to our nation by allowing people to get away with crimes was GHWB’s pardoning of Iran/Contra conspirators. The Team B crew should have been locked up in jail rather than being free to get GHWB’s son to invade Iraq, the enemy of their old friend Iran (and then wanting to throw Iran under the bus as well). Not to mention, Nixon already had a bad reputation (possibly worse than he deserved) and pardoning him did not change that (*). OTOH, killing any investigation into the neferity (is that a word?) of St. Ronnie helped him cement an underserved reputation as “‘Murka’s bestest Presnit” rather than the brain-tangled, crooked pol he was.

Let’s stop ragging on Ford for pardoning Nixon and start ragging on GHWB for his pardons associated with Iran/Contra which have been far more destructive to our country in the long run in terms of their effect of letting treasonous criminals go free.

(*rather it pretty much made it clear he was a crook, even if he did earn everything he got — the whole “I’m a hard worker, therefore I’m not a crook” argument was classic Nixon not getting it … nu? some crooks are hard workers and just work hard at criminal, rather than legit, jobs)

Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if Bush’s dad gets a slight up-tick over time. Pulled off Gulf War I pretty well (esp. in comparison to the current cluster-fuck). Navigated a huge economic dislocation (end of Cold War) without it becoming a complete disaster. Signed the American with Disabilities Act.

He won’t be top half, but compared to a lot of Presidents he wasn’t that bad.

just two out of 109 historians said Bush would be judged a success

I think that’s from here. What I think is totally awesome is that despite the rarity of historians that don’t thnik Bush is a complete tool, the WashPost found one.
Hey Vince “fluffer” Cannato, how’s As years pass, more documents will be released, more insights gleaned and the broader picture of this era will be painted working out for you?

Of course history will vindicate Bush. He’s well-loved by the majority of Americans in the present, too! This country stands firmly behind its president!

Why are you people laughing at me?

D.N.

Consensus then: Ford did a lousy thing when he pardoned Nixon.
Consensus now: Well, Ford died, so I guess we shouldn’t keep dwelling on it. it’s too late now, the shit’s out of the horse. Even though it was one of the single worst Presidential decisions in the history of the country, and set an awful precedent that has emboldened sheer criminality in the Executive Branch during every Republican Administration since, since the main players are dead it doesn’t seem to make sense to keep worrying about that. We have a whole new Administration that needs to spend the rest of their lives in the stripey hole.

fixed.

Sort of ironic, really. Cheney talking about Presidential pardons.

Vice President Cheney has also argued that history will vindicate Bush.

Cthcheney was speaking of the special history Iron Babs will buy to stock her BabyBush’s pResidential Library.

History will vindicate Bush when all the historians work for AEI.

Of course, he doesn’t see his own implication that if Iraq IS peaceful and prosperous in fifty years it will be because a lot of people, with more guts, brains and determination than his team had, managed to somehow fix America’s Most Colossal Foreign Policy Blunder Ever™.

Vince Cannato, 2006: 4 in 5 historians think W’s presidency is a failure, but I say we should give it time.
Vince Cannato, 2008: 107 in109 historians think W’s presidency is a failure, but I’m certainly suspicious when so many historians agree.

I dunno … IMHO Ford was right to pardon Nixon. We really did need to get beyond Watergate.

Sorry, I think that was EPIC FAIL territory.

If Nixon and his gang had been dealt with, we wouldn’t have had Iran Contra or the present mess.

It’s all the same people. Over and over again.

At this point, I call three felonies and they are in jail forever, or their shriveled souls get collected by Satan, whichever comes first.

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Although things look bleak for Bush’s legacy, signs on the ground are definitely improving, and while the last 7 and a half years have been liking a gaping wound to this nation, the next six months are really going to be decisive.

As MattY once quipped, “Harding Studies” is not exactly a thriving field among historians. The guy sucked, and historians are pretty much in agreement about that.

Bush aspires to be Truman– reviled at the end of his term (for firing McArthur for his hawkish overreach, which is left unsaid), but admired as a “near great” president now. More likely, Bush will be seen as a Grover Cleveland (“mediocre politician who made a comeback while his party collapsed”). If he’s lucky, a Nixon (“total criminal with redeeming qualities”).

My grandfather, a very good and decent man, once explained to me how Herbert Hoover was actually a great president, and very misunderstood by history. I would imagine that lots of people of his generation felt that way.

Dumbya is gonna find it a bit more difficult, though. I’m already seeing traces of embarrassment in even some of his strongest supporters–you’ve probably seen that same sheepish grin. They’re not sorry, exactly, but they do at least feel a bit stupid for their votes.

Should Obama pardon Bush?

The two historians who think history will vindicate Bush: Jonah Goldberg and Judith Miller?

Bush’s only hope to be “vindicated” is that a couple of really great who happen to be not mentally retarded come along and successfully undo his evil, thereby muting the effect of his policies on the future. That’s a real fucking long shot given how much damage he’s done already. I imagine that the next few presidents, if they are successful, will get credit from historians for saving the U.S. from the shit stain that was the Bush presidency.

The origins of Bush’s lousy poll numbers are murky. Some say it has to do with Iraq his mishandling of the economy, turning a record budget surplus into staggeringly immense deficits. Others point to Iraq the erosion of civil liberties under his watch. Others still especially in New Orleans cite rampant cronyism and Iraq. Most of these people are ignoring what is probably the prime factor behind the ill feelings towards our current President, the Wonder Twins.

Can i haz Time Mag column now?

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Scott,
At least one of them has got to be Vince “J is for I love blowing goats” Cannato.

…you’ve probably seen that same sheepish grin. They’re not sorry, exactly, but they do at least feel a bit stupid for their votes.

I’ve seen that look, the “haw, what was I thinking, leaving all those anonymous death threats on the answering machines of people who dared voice opposition to the war in 2003? Silly me! But it was fun watching bulldozers crush Dixie Chicks CDs” sort of look.

With apologies to our gracious hosts.
Continuing on my one man crusade to get Cannato the fame and recognition he deserves

I long ago learned to look with suspicion when members of the left-leaning historical profession delve into contemporary politics or profess near unanimity. Today’s pronouncements that Bush is the “worst president ever” are too often ideology masquerading as history.

Sadly, No!
Bush. Scalia. ORLY. Newt. Patchouli and tweed don’t mix.

Jesus, are there ANY Robots around here that WORK?

Maybe we should get them from Japan or something…

mikey

At this point, I call three felonies and they are in jail forever, or their shriveled souls get collected by Satan, whichever comes first.

So, I’m confused. Three felonies? Which alternate Tuesday do you want to look at, and why are you wanting to disregard every other day?

Kidding, sort of.

And yeah, as to “Getting past Watergate”, damned right we needed to “heal”. Oddly, patients heal better if you don’t sew the tumor back up in their tummy after pointing at it and telling it how bad it has been.

The only way that Bush can possibly be vindicated is to follow his father’s path and make sure that his successors are either sabotaged by a well-funded hate machine or such utter catastrophes that he looks less bad by comparison. Or at least he is forgotten like Pierce whose utter crapitude is usually forgotten because what came after was so bad.

Vincent J. Cannato, my new stalking target, adjunct fellow at the Hudson Institute. Possibly hoping for a chance to move up into the spot Scooter left.

Yes, Mr. President, they DID laugh at Galileo and Einstein. But they also laughed at Velikovsky, Lysenko, and that guy who wanders around town in a bathing suit and cowboy boots yelling about fluoride in the water.

damned right we needed to “heal”

I tire of this word “heal”.

As in, for example, sucking up to Clinton supporters who threaten to vote McCain.

/rant

that guy who wanders around town in a bathing suit and cowboy boots yelling about fluoride in the water. – ignatov

Remember ignatov (is that a commie name?), that guy wandering ’round town in a bathing suit and cowboy boots is your commander in chief. I understand I’m not too popular right now, but can’t you show some respect for the office of the presnitcy?

It will, in fact, taking a huge steaming dump all over his face.

Is funny with mock Russian accent, yes?

In Soviet Russia, steaming dump taking you.

Oddly, patients heal better if you don’t sew the tumor back up in their tummy after pointing at it and telling it how bad it has been.

AMEN.

…that guy who wanders around town in a bathing suit and cowboy boots yelling about fluoride in the water.

My office is in Times Square, and I’ve never once heard the Naked Cowboy yelling about fluoride in the water. Trademark infringement and intellectual property rights, yes, but fluoride, no.

More likely, Bush will be seen as a Grover Cleveland (”mediocre politician who made a comeback while his party collapsed”). If he’s lucky, a Nixon (”total criminal with redeeming qualities”).

Comeback? Ha ha! Redeeming qualities? Ha ha ha! No, stop, you’re killing me.

White House aides say Bush, who majored in history at Yale, likes to emphasize historical comparisons because they are easy for the public to understand and illustrate in dramatic fashion how differently future generations may come to view him.

What public are they talking about? Certainly not the U.S. public. We don’t do history too good here.

I do like how Bush and Cheney take their inspiration from Fidel Castro.

that guy who wanders around town in a bathing suit and cowboy boots yelling about fluoride in the water.
Or he may be just about to kill you.

And yeah, as to “Getting past Watergate”, damned right we needed to “heal”. Oddly, patients heal better if you don’t sew the tumor back up in their tummy after pointing at it and telling it how bad it has been.

That reminds me, David Broder did a WaPo.com “live chat” last Friday (as if anything Broder does can be said to be “live”) and this particular exchange made my head explode:

Impeachment: But when they started proceedings against Nixon, we had both the Cold War and a far more bloody affair in Vietnam, and the vice president at the beginning was the laughable and unqualified Agnew. It didn’t seem to stop the Congress at that time from doing their duty. What’s the difference this time? Are the present representatives midgets compared to people like Rodino? Or don’t you think a president dragging us into war with Iraq under false pretenses is that big a thing? Don’t we risk making this type of conduct acceptable for future presidents — just like the failure to really punish Iran Contra came back on us later?

David S. Broder: How did Iran=contra come back to haunt us later?

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you The Dean of Washington Pundits.

From the Post article:

Bush said that he “never wanted to be a war president”…

Sheeeit.

One thing I’ve never been able to figure out about Bush is whether or not he believes his own bullshit.

If he’s lucky, a Nixon (”total criminal with redeeming qualities”).

I see zero redeeming qualities with Bush. Nixon was a swine who did some useful things. Bush is a swine who has done no useful things at all that I’m aware of. In a way, his crappiness is awe-inspiring – you’d think he would’ve at least stumbled into a sensible policy every once in a while.

My grandfather, a very good and decent man, once explained to me how Herbert Hoover was actually a great president, and very misunderstood by history.

My father very earnestly said exactly the same thing.

That “history will vindicate me” schtick?
As I recall, the luminaries that peddled that particular snake-oil include Hitler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin & his old chum Saddam Hussein … so it’s kind of on a par with his policies: pure unmitigated dick-cheese trying earnestly to pass itself off as caviar.

W’s Superduper Secrit Historikal Vindication Plan:

1: Invade Iran
2: End history as we know it by going nuclear with China & Russia
3: ?????
4: PROFIT!

Trademark infringement and intellectual property rights, yes, but fluoride, no.

I thought it was the guy with the winterized coveralls and the fullface motorcycle helmet who went on and on about fluoride.

White House aides say Bush, who majored in history at Yale, likes to emphasize historical comparisons because they are easy for the public to understand and illustrate in dramatic fashion how differently future generations may come to view him.

I’m picturing a moment in time 50 years from now, when a glowing editorial is written about the great deeds W. performed during his two terms that changed the world forever.

It’ll be signed by Osama Bin Laden IV.

I referred to 3 felonies, because in many states, 3 felony convictions, even if they were non-violent, is enough for them to declare you incorrigible and lock up up forever.

As usual, the whole “never steal anything small” rule applies.

Bush said that he “never wanted to be a war president”…

This is, in a way, true. He wanted to be a war dictator.

My grandfather, a very good and decent man, once explained to me how Herbert Hoover was actually a great president, and very misunderstood by history.

Herbert Hoover was a decent man who went along with the predominant (and wrong, very wrong) feelings of the age. Solid humanitarian later in life. I don’t blame him for the bullshit that gets churned out of the Hoohah Institute these days.

Nowhere near the asshole that Silent Cal was. It’s very much worth noting that I’ve seen a few articles churned out of said Hoohah that have espoused the diety of Coolidge. Never seen anything about Hoover himself.

As the greatest President of them all said, ” The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.”

In other words, history won’t remember his bullshit excuses but will remember his horrific record.

I vote for Bush being declared as the-president-whose-library-was-vandalized-so-much-it-had-to-be-closed.

The belief that history would vindicate him is sort of incompatible with his belief that he has to shred documents, delete or avoid emails, and otherwise avoid leaving any tracks that an historian might use to judge him.

“history will not vindicate Bush. It will, in fact, taking a huge steaming dump all over his face.

Not if I get there first.

Oh, and most historians agree that Taft got a bad rap.

I wasn’t aware of this. Are they saying that his presidency wasn’t really that bad or that his overall career wasn’t really that bad? Taft always struck me as a complete failure as president; moreover, Taft himself pretty clearly thought he was a complete failure as president.

Herbert Hoover was a decent man…

Some have disputed that. I’ve read that he was heavily involved in some extremely slimy business dealings in China early in his career and that his reputation as a man of unimpeachable integrity was the result of successful self-promotion. I don’t know enough about it to judge how true the allegations are.

Does anyone know of an example of a president that was judged to suck big time by his contemporaries, but is viewed positively by historians?

Well, Lincoln comes to mind,and of course the Bushies have been pushing this comparison because they want to associate him with Lincoln – which would be outrageous if it weren’t so patently laughable.

But, really, other than the fact that they were both wartime presidents, they’re about as aslike as chalk and cheese.

Lincoln became president of a nation that was inevitably heading toward division and Civil war, had to balance between diametrically opposed interests in his own nation, and had some incompetent generals. He tried his best to preserve the union, managed to finally prevail. It’s the fact that he managed to set the nation on the path of reconcilliation and healing that make historians admire him.

Contemporary views of Lincoln’s suckitude had mostly to do with the fact that there were so many opposing interests, naturally the ones with a lot at stake thought he sucked. Everybody hates the guy in the middle, but history usually judges them well.

Bush, on the other hand, became president of a nation in prosperity and got caught with his pants down by 9/11, invaded the wrong country – screwed up the occupation, and tanked the economy. He also exploited the division of opposing interests for personal gain, gutted the Constitution, corrupted the Justice department, and allowed the destruction and death of an American city through his own incompetence. I don’t see how history can positively spin those things.

Can you imagine a historian 40-50 years down the line who’d say, “Well, it actually was a good thing that we no longer can be certain of the impartiality of American Justice?” “Well, the positive outcome of allowing dead bodies to float in the streets of New Orleans was….” “Thank goodness he had the foresight to enrich Halliburton and empower Blackwater.”

The only positive review I can imagine from a historican 40-50 years down the line is “The positive outcome of George Bush’s presidency is the wreckage of the Republican Party.”

Herbert Clark Hoover was an Iowan, and as such, was not only a great President, but a great human being as well.

That’s why there are schools named after him in the Land of Corn. You won’t see any named after either Bush or Nixon or Reagan in the Heartland.

The only way that Bush could be favorably viewed by history would be if the Saudi’s oil fields are dry and the only oil left in the world is that 50 trillion dollar lake beneath Iraq. Even then people would blame him for having failed to achieve that goal in the first place. So maybe even that worst possible outcome would not be enough to save him.

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WereBear said,

June 9, 2008 at 19:03

I referred to 3 felonies, because in many states, 3 felony convictions, even if they were non-violent, is enough for them to declare you incorrigible and lock up up forever.

As usual, the whole “never steal anything small” rule applies.

Yes. In a spastic fit of “I’m tougher on crime than you are” politics, california passed a brutal three strikes law. With very little judicial discretion. Unfortunately, in california, Petty Theft with a Prior Conviction (Petty with a Prior) can be prosecuted as a felony. So you get a guy who did some bad stuff in the seventies stealing a bicycle or a piece of pizza and getting 25 to life.

It’s about as fucked up as anything you can imagine outside of gitmo…

mikey

yep. Aren’t they trying to undo that?

Just the judges, attorneys, advocacy groups, law enforcement and corrections.

The prosecutors, on the other hand, seem deeply attached to it…

mikey

I wasn’t aware of this. Are they saying that his presidency wasn’t really that bad or that his overall career wasn’t really that bad?

Presidency. Taft was labeled in his day as a reactionary sell-out, when in fact he was just as trustbusting as TR. Just not really loud about it. And never openly gleeful about it.

I put Taft as a progressive president where I put GHWB as a conservative president. Which is to say, lurches at moderation, not a complete failure.

His ex-presidency is probably the best of all time. Everyone agrees on this.

Some have disputed that. I’ve read that he was heavily involved in some extremely slimy business dealings in China early in his career and that his reputation as a man of unimpeachable integrity was the result of successful self-promotion. I don’t know enough about it to judge how true the allegations are.

Got a link? I’ve never heard this.

Pshh. Those “historians?” Latte sipping ivory tower elitist fags I’ll bet! How can you trust those guys when they don’t even know about how Adolf Hitler was a liberal? I’m sure Jonah Goldberg is already hard at work on a thoughtful and serious book to set the historical record strait.

Just you wait, in a few decades the conservatoids will be venerating Bush the same way they do Reagan.

Has Jonah Goldberg started his newest tome:

George W. Bush, Greatest U.S. President Ever!

-GSD

As you all know, my next book is going to be about the George W. Bush presidency. Unfortunately, I’ve been too busy eating paste to know much about what’s been going on for the past eight years (if you read anything I’ve written in this time, that fact is glaringly obvious). So I’m asking if there are any readers out there who can give me a hand in researching the Greatest U.S. Presidency Ever!

John, can you spare some of your dump for David Broder too?

-GSD

Got a link? I’ve never heard this.

Here. Interesting stuff, but again I don’t know enough about either Hoover or Liggett to be able to judge it.

Also some here and here. But again, it seems to rely mostly on Liggett.

Damn, I need to get back to work.

Bush said that he “never wanted to be a war president.”

President Lying-Sack-Of-Shit strikes again:

“I’m a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign-policy matters with war on my mind. Again, I wish it wasn’t true, but it is true.”

“MEET THE PRESS WITH TIM RUSSERT”, February 8, 2004
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4179618/

The only way Chimpy McFlightSuit is NOT the worst president ever is if they create a new category just for him (and he does — and would — indeed deserve one), and don’t include him with the ranking of real presidents.

Hey Jonah! I can help with the research. One FACT which liberals CANNOT DISPUTE is that Bush’s dad was also president.

One thing Truman had to cope with that Bush never did: an implacably hostile press, led by reactionary loudmouths like Robert McCormick, that never got over their fury at his squeaker victory over Thomas Dewey. Bush, on the other hand, has been coddled by the media to a degree that approaches outright propaganda.

Thanks! That’ll help a lot, maybe I can stretch it into four or five chapters. This book is going to be awesome! It’ll be an argument that has never been made in such detail or with such care.

And I know you’re all anxiously awaiting it, after all if Glenn Greenwald can crank out a book in six months, surely I can do so in less than half the time. Although he has the advantage that his references actually exist, and I have to make mine up from thin air.

Actually, three months is kind of short. Maybe I’ll have the first draft ready, say early next year.

Umm, did I say next year? I meant the one after that.

Can I get another advance?

It are amazing how great Jonah writing these days. Making me pourd to watch such a jenius in actions.

Just to be on the safe side, I’m going to pre-order Jonah’s book now.

ANOTHER GREAT REVIEW for Jonah Goldberg’s new book, which hasn’t been released yet. This time it’s from Thomas Sowell. I will now proceed to completely ignore the fact that Sowell routinely writes for National Review. Heh!

Immanuel Velikovsky was a great scholor and brilliant essayist. He stand among history’s greatest thinkers.

Or maybe I am thinking about Tor Johnson…..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velikovsky

How many Americans died for no reason when Ford pardoned Nixon?

Just askin’.

I know this thread is supposed to be about the WashPost, but I mentioned that liberal rag in my latest at NRO. See my theory is that the Obama movement is actuallty a personality cult. Brilliant huh? I’ll bet no one’s thought of it before. But, just in case, I’ll pretend to be tongue in paste in cheek. Someone mentioned to me something about Poe’s Law, but since there are no ravens in my column I think I’m pretty safe.

Oh, by the way, I’ve had to change the title of my book. It’s now going to be called George W. Bush, Greatest U.S. President next to Reagan. But you can be sure that that’ll be the title it’ll be published under sometime in 2012!

Velikovsky have borscht for brains. Tor have borscht for breakfast.

Time for go to bed.

Pantload:

Before we answer that question, let me vent for a moment. In 2000 I was cruelly denied the Pulitzer despite being the only columnist in America to ask the pressing question: Is Al Gore an alien? The evidence was there for all to see. He was born nine months after the mysterious alien sighting at Roswell, N.M. His weird syntax and verbal rhythms are otherworldly. He often refers to “earth” or “this planet” as if he’s just passing through, and he once angrily complained to the Washington Post that it had printed a picture of the earth from outer space “upside down.”

Um, yeah. Not funny.

I call fake Jonah Goldberg.

Way too perceptive. Approaches consciousness.

Well I was going to call him fat and say something about inventing the internets, but I knew I’d need you lefties to help me with my new book, George W. Bush, Greatest U.S. President other than Reagan and Lincoln. Look for it in bookstores in June 2015!
And if you thought the NRO piece was brilliant writing, check out my last L.A. Times column. What does Rev. Wright have to do with Iraq? Well plenty, because you see Obama is black. Did you know that?
Also, buy my book!

As I remember, Hoover was considered a great humanitarian through his administrative skills in distributing food and other aid goods during and after WWI. This fame and popularity lead to his successful run for the Presidency.

Perhaps his brain was too organized. During the Depression, he seemed to come up against some rigid internal rules about “markets” and such that we are woefully all too familiar with. He couldn’t believe the situation wouldn’t correct itself, and he wouldn’t touch the situation, thinking it would turn itself around according to his beliefs.

There was the famous quote, “Perhaps people have found apple selling to pay better,” or something similar. And his ruthless response to Coxey’s Army (a group of WWI veterans who marked into DC asking for their bonuses to keep their families from starving) showed little trace of the humanitarian who had, after all, gone through the same war in a different capacity.

By the end, he had wiped out any good will left and wound up in the negative.

No comparison to the Pretzelnit, who never had any good deeds to show in the first place.

Whenever I hear about Hoover (the president, not the vacuum), I think about that radio clip, I don’t know the occasion, where he was introduced to the crowd as “Hoobert Heever”.

One of the best presidential related bloopers of all time. Besides Gerald Ford falling down Air Force One’s stairs. Or hitting bystanders with golf balls.

“And if you thought the NRO piece was brilliant writing, check out my last L.A. Times column. What does Rev. Wright have to do with Iraq? Well plenty, because you see Obama is black. Did you know that?”

Don’t forget elitist! And a ghetto thug! And a Muslim! And a Communist! And Black! But not really Black! Which just goes to show how we should give Bush a third term. Cuz he’s not Black. For it is Liberals who are the real racists.

He clears brush you know.

David S. Broder: How did Iran=contra come back to haunt us later?

Other bon mots from Broder:

What did Jim Crow have to do with segregation?

What did internment camps have to do with American citizens of Japanese descent?
What do my columns have to do with that paycheck I cash every week?

The NRO is a dap free zone.

-Thomas Sowell

“Hoobert Heever” reminds me of when some TV talking head referred to the New York archdiocese’s then-freshly-installed Cardinal Egan as “Cardigan Evil.” Now THAT was a religious experience!

I need to read George Bush’s autobiography, written by Houston Chronicle sports writer Mickey Herskowitz. Can someone read it and tell me who his parents were and what his dad did for a living? I don’t need to read the whole book. Thanks!

Y’know the thing with Cleveland is a bit off — he’s known for being the only President to serve two nonconsecutive terms. Taft is known for being the only President to go on to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

Jonah, I’m sure you can find all the research material you need by reading “Dianetics.” And if that’s not sufficient, those same people run some lovely visitors’ centers where they’ll be happy to provide more information. They’ll even show you a free movie! And if you hurry, you might get to meet Tom Cruise…

Just kidding. Taft is known for being really, really fat and for getting stuck in the White House bathtub.

Fuck FDR and his New Deal.

I was on “Deal or No Deal”! Suck on that!

How can you Obots know that President Bush won’t be proven right by the future annals of history? How can you be so sure? Oh, I know! It’s because you use the same militant misogyny and dislogic to judge our President as you do to judge Hillary Clinton. It’s therefore no surprise that both Hillary and President Bush share a true love of America, a defense of true blue Reagan Democrats and Appalachian Americans, who create the base of the Democrat Party and of the future of this country itself. That’s a fact you conveniently leave out when going on your robotic screeds against Bush and, more importantly, Hillary Clinton, who has, despitey our ramblings, not yet conceded defeat, but is working hard behind the scenes to win superdelegate support. It’s that sort of hard-working true blue Appalachian spirit that drives true Americans like Hillary, and it’s the sort of thing that will continue to elude Obama and his robotic patriarchial supporters. President Bush is working hard to ensure that his legacy will be a success for generations and generations of Americans, which is more than we can say about the hateful, elitist Obambi.

It’s because you use the same militant misogyny and dislogic to judge our President as you do to judge Hillary Clinton.

Misogyny. It’s true. George Bush is a bitch. Osama bin Laden’s bitch, to be precise.
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I’m a glass-half-full kind of guy. I’d say he’s the 43rd best President we’ve ever had.

I was on “Deal or No Deal”!

Please, for the love of all that is sweet and holy, tell me this isn’t true.

Deal.

I don’t understand what all this discussion is about.

I’m pretty sure that Bush will be found in the anals of history.

I’m pretty sure that Bush will be found in the anals of history.

Indeed. Let us wish him comfort the toilette of his term.

“comfort in the”

Hey, it’s Iris!

Don’t go blaming us for those “robotic screeds”. Those are courtesy of that stupid malfunctioning Glenn Reynolds automaton.

What’s a screed, anyway? Isn’t that one of those eskimo carvings on a walrus tusk? No, that’s scrimshaw…. Um…. Oh, I remember. Screed is that REALLY sucky band that has a video of them doing a song while hip deep in water.

Screed sucks.

Hey, it’s Iris!

What I like about us is our optimism.

The George W. Bush presidency1 is best described with superlatives. He’s set all kinds of records.

☞ Worst foreign policy ever.
☞ Most convicted felons in an administration.
☞ Largest deficit.
☞ Most incompetent at actually governing.
☞ Most corrupt of the last 100+ years.
☞ Slept throughOversaw worst attack on American soil ever.
☞ Most vacation days.

Feel free to add to his superlative accomplishments.

1 Some historians will note that while Bush was the de jure rpesident, Cheney was the de facto president

What I like about us is our optimism.

The state of our optimism has never been more dire.
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He’s set all kinds of records.

So, if presidential greatness is by comparison to Reagan, who set many of the existing records in those categories, Dumbya is amazingly super-duper great.

Whew! Sorry I haven’t been posting as much lately, but I’ve been so busy with the book, I haven’t had time for much else. It’s now slated for 2015, which I think is good because it’ll allow me to get the perspective of history. Also, the new working title is: George W. Bush: Democratic Disaster. There’s no denying that his administration was rife with liberal initiatives that deviated from pure conservatism. The central question I’ll be addressing in my book is whether those initiatives will sink his Liberal-Lite administration into ignominy, or whether history will prove the conservative elements of his presidency to be a success non-pariel worthy to be considered a true shining light of traditional and typical of Conservatism glonous history and cultual.

Remember, movement conservatism can not fail – it can only be failed!

Suffered the greatest number of facial abrasions during his term

Destroyed the greatest number of US cities during his term

Whew! Sorry I haven’t been posting as much lately, but I’ve been so busy with the book

What Jonah means to say is that he spent the last half-hour looking for the Cheeto that got away into the inner recesses of his chair.

My highly medicated frame of mind could possibly, I admit, be mistaken for “a sense of optimism”. I prefer the term “compassionate cynicism” myself.

What Jonah means to say is that he spent the last half-hour
deciding whether to use the baby oil or the hand lotion.

There is something to say for Hoover. He was a legitimate self-made man who rose on his own from poverty to wealth. He gave up all business activity during World War I to work on humanitarian relief, and never really returned to profit-making activity. He was one of the few people in Harding’s administration to emerge with his reputation intact, and continued to advocate positions which were quite progressive for a Republican of the time.

Unfortunately, in order to unite the Republican party behind his run for president, he seems to have quaffed deeply from the traditional right-wing koolaid- lower taxes on the rich, no regulations on business or investment, refusing to consider aid to lower and mid- income people, while sponsoring bailouts to financial institutions, mindless lectures about personal responsibility….is any of this sounding familiar? Thus, he bought and paid for the depression, and he’ll own it until doomsday.

Our invasion of Iraq would not have failed if it wasn’t for that liberal Bush. He was clearly in league with them dhimmicrats in a plot to sap our vital bodily fluids. A true conservative would never have lost that war. He would have turned the keys, launched the B-52s at the Iraqis and nuked ’em ’til they glowed, then shot the survivors in the dark. If only he’d had the guts to reduce the nation of Iraq to glass, there would be no insurgency and there would be peace across the middle east.

Destroyed the greatest number of US cities during his term

Not yet, but there’s still time.

I don’t get the hatred you people have for President Bush. The economy is better than the one he received. He’s made us safer. We’ve been victorious in two wars, the most for any president since FDR. His strength and resolve have been inspirations for millions and millions.

Bush will be remembered as a friend to Americans and an enemy to hatred. I consider him a friend, and I’m glad he has been our leader. It’s this type of ninny talk from you people that has driven me away from the Democrat Party for good.

It’s this type of ninny talk from you people that has driven me away from the Democrat Party for good.

That’s one of the most beautiful lines I’ve ever read.

He would have turned the keys, launched the B-52s at the Iraqis

You hate beehive hairdos THAT MUCH?!!

We’ve been victorious in two wars…

Really? Has he fought two wars that I don’t know about?

Um, Senator Lieberman, you forgot to switch the “name” box over from Jason Ambrose.

Oddly, patients heal better if you don’t sew the tumor back up in their tummy after pointing at it and telling it how bad it has been.
That’s giving me flashbacks to the Dr-Bondo-&-the-liver-tumour sub-plot from Riget.

You hate beehive hairdos THAT MUCH?!!

I can hear the held organ tone and the “down…down…” as they fall…

Bush will be remembered as a friend to Americans and an enemy to hatred.

I hate hatred! And don’t get me started on violence — I’d like to punch it and kick it until it bleeds to death.

I am still stinging from that “ninny” rebuke. Man, that hurt.

This is not news to me, I already knew Jr was the worst in history. Almost all presidents have something they can point to as a success of their administration, even Nixon went to China. Jr has been a compleate and utter failure at everything he has ever done throughout his entire adult life, he makes a mess and then lets someone else clean up after him, he’s like a big stupid 2 year old.
A history major, bull! This dumbass does not know one single thing about history, none of the neocons do. Jr is banking on the old adage that the winners get to write the history, what this chump fails to realize is that history is written by historians, and they dont always take the winners word for it, not if they have alternate sources to draw from (like blogs or diary entries for instance).
I love history, some of the worlds most fascinating stories and events are found in history books, thats why I get deeply offended at the historical stupidity coming from these cons, stupid fly shit like the liberal fascist book, or those PIG guides (writen by pigs for pigs). it all just pisses me off to no end.

I think “Dr-Bondo & the liver tumour” would make a great name for a rock band. Backup vocals delivered by the Tumourettes.

Jason, your misconceptions are the sorts of thing that get Jonah Goldberg into trouble and force him to change his book title.

We’ve been victorious in two wars, the most for any president since FDR

Well – Reagan won the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty and he single handedly defeated the Evil Empire of the USSR. That’s got to be at least twelve wars right there, so Bush has only won more wars than any president since Reagan.

His strength and resolve have been inspirations for millions and millions.

Too true. He’s inspired worldwide derision and condemnation of the US! And just think of all the terrorists he’s inspired.

– Do you expect me to talk Goldberg?

– No Dr. Bondo, I expect you to die (of cancer).

Reagan also won WWII, Atlantic and Pacific, without ever leaving the Burbank soundstages of Warner Brothers. But that was before he was President, so I guess it doesn’t count.

Naw, you guys are thinking WAY too small. There’s Bush’s War On Truth, the War On The Dept. Of Justice, War On Freedom of the Press, War On Citizens Of The U.S. Who Are Vegans, there’s Cheney’s War On Salmon…

Chirst, that’s about 72 wars whose victory can easily be attributed to Bush.

caligula is still waiting for history to turn it around for him

hitler was convinced that history would exonerate him, as well

so it’s not like george is alone in waiting for a historic reprieve

The economy is better than the one he received.

Nope.

He’s made us safer.

Nope.

We’ve been victorious in two wars,

Nope

the most for any president since FDR.

I don’t even know what you’re talking about.

His strength and resolve have been inspirations for millions and millions.

Sure, OK.

This trollery isn’t that good. You got anything better?

history will also judge the american people for electing W, twice.
history will also judge the congress for their lack of any standards regarding the bush dictatorship.

I don’t get the hatred you people have for President Bush.

Hey little guy, let me ‘splain you sumpin. We don’t hate Bush. Despise, loathe, get nauseated by, all that and more but we don’t hate him.

See, we all know he’s just being what he’s always been – a spoiled delusional petty spiteful neurotic. We knew that about him way back before he got those activist judges to declare hisself Preznit. We don’t hate people who are mentally ill, not much anyway. We expected his term to be a disaster; it’s only the degree of awfulness that astonishes us.

On the other hand, the people who made W possible, the people who voted for him and the media and people who continue to berate and verbally (and occasionally physically) terrorize the rest of us patriotic Americans, those people I can hate. The people who refuse to allow one shred of humanity to get in the way of propping up an idiotic whack tyrant, THOSE people I can hate. People like you, you see?

By the way, staying away from the Democratic Party is probably the wisest thing you can do. Because there are lots of us that really do hate you. Really.

Funny, Time Magazine recently had a piece about the officer in charge of Saddam Hussein while he was in US custody prior to the freakshow death extravaganza.

Said officer noted that Saddam Hussein was obsessed with his legacy and what history would record about him.

-GSD

If you see a signed AUMF by the side of the road that says
Fifteen miles till we BOMB IRAQ! Bomb Iraq yeah!
I’m headin’ down the Baghdad highway,
hopin’ IED’s don’t blow me away
Hoping that mortats don’t blow me away, blow me away
I got me a MOAB, it’s as big as a whale
and we’re headin’ on down
To Bomb Iraq.

Just as I expected. You couldn’t argue my points, so you chose to make fun of me.

Think about this incident when McCain wins in November.

I dunno … IMHO Ford was right to pardon Nixon. We really did need to get beyond Watergate. OTOH, the pardon that was fo’ real destructive to our nation by allowing people to get away with crimes was GHWB’s pardoning of Iran/Contra conspirators.

No, no, NO. Gotta second Werebear on this: Ford’s pardon of Nixon — which, in real life, meant giving all the third- and fourth-echelon weasels (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gramm) working for Nixon a ‘Get Out of Jail Testifying Free’ pass — was explicitly cited by Poppy Bush as a “precedent” for sweeping the whole Iran-Contra criminal enterprise down the memory hole. Which of course meant that Poppy didn’t have to come clean, under oath, about his *own* not inconsiderable part in that stain on America’s record.

Now the criminals and enablers who’ve been puppetmastering Poppy’s Lil Boy (some of them the *same* criminals who got their start in Nixon’s WH) are already setting up the Iran-Contra Free Pass as a “precedent” whereby they can all slide out of the Oval Office on January 20th with their ill-gotten gains intact and all records of their crimes during the last eight years shredded. At which point they’ll be preparing for Jenna Bush’s presidential run in 2020, with Mary Cheney as VP and Douglas Feith as Secretary of State… assuming there’s still a functioning America for them to keep polluting by that time.

Basically, a large part of the official Republican policy since 1974 has been to legitimize Erlichman’s famous legal argument: “If the President does it, then it is not a crime.”

President Obama needs to set up a Truth and Reconciliation Council during his first week in office to lance all the boils, drain all the swamps, and recover insofar as possible all the “lost” records of the last thirty eight years of criminal activity within the administration. Truth first, then Reconciliation!

Jason. we can’t see your points. Your hat is covering them.

Jason,
When the Giant pill bugs eat Obama and the dinosaurs attack, we’ll just niminate Hillary instead who will crush McCain since she’s such a nutcracker.
And you can’t argue my points so nyah nyah!

Just as I expected. You couldn’t argue my points, so you chose to make fun of me.

points == text generated by wingerwank.pl.

War On Citizens Of The U.S. Who Are Vegans

Die Fahne hoch! Die organische Hanfreihen fest geschlossen!
PETA marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.
Kameraden, die Fleisch fressende Bush soldaten erschossen,
Marschieren im Geist in unseren Reihen mit.

I need a life.

We’ve been victorious in two wars, the most for any president since FDR.

Let’s see, FDR took on the Third Reich and the Japanese empire, and we weren’t even a major power when the war started.

Bush took on the Taliban and a badly weakened Saddam Hussein.

I’d say there’s a weeeeee bit of difference there. Kind of like the difference between fighting the Incredible Hulk or a dwarf with no arms and no legs.

Just as I expected. You couldn’t argue my points, so you chose to make fun of me.

Why would we argue your points? that’s your job.

We don’t “debate” anyone who uses the term “Democrat Party”. To me, that automatically tags the user as a person who just wants to jab and provoke, not to have any sort of rational discourse.

By the way, when did anyone ever come to Sadly, No! in order to have rational discourse?

I actually figured, and still do, that this is a troll. The problem with today’s Republicans is that they are virtually identical to trolls, so it’s so hard to figure out when someone is being really serious and someone who is just in it to agitate. Like Mike Huckabee, for instance. Could anyone REALLY be like that and run for president? For all I know, Huckabee could have been the very first troll running for president.

The problem with McCain is, he is serious. A bit senile yet very serious. Always a bad combination.

Let’s see, FDR took on the Third Reich and the Japanese empire, and we weren’t even a major power when the war started.

Kind of like the difference between fighting the Incredible Hulk or a dwarf with no arms and no legs. penis fish.

Sorry, that analogy just seems more apt to me.

You want your points argued, douchebag? Here you go.
The economy is better than the one he received.
-Surplus to deficit is not good. Oh, that’s right, you define a good economy as tax cuts that are bandaids on an open vein.
He’s made us safer.
-Which is why al-Qaeda is now just as strong as they were pre-9/11, and Osama bin Laden is being completely ignored.
We’ve been victorious in two wars,
-What the fuck? If we’re victorious, can we bring the troops home? Or do you have some “stay until the job is done” cliche bullshit for us too?
the most for any president since FDR.
-Typical wingnut. The more people you bomb, the bigger your di… I mean, the better a president you are. Some people would define a good president as someone who starts FEWER wars.
His strength and resolve have been inspirations for millions and millions.
-…of al-Qaeda recruits and soulless Wall Street criminals.

Wow. Giant pill bugs and now penis fish. I’m gonna have me some bodacious nightmares tonight.

Yes, we are making fun of you.

Spend more that five seconds reading the comment thread, and maybe you’ll get the picture – this isn’t the Daily Kos.

If you’re really lucky, you’ll get namestolen or someone will craft a robot after you, which inevitably will begin to malfunction. Nobody around here can ever get their stinking robots to work properly.

I blame the UN.

Well, the only problem was that your points were all totally pointless, Jason,

And exactly WTF kind of treatment did you expect you’d get at a left-wing humor site?

Now run along back to junior high school.

The fact is, Mr. Ambrose, my seconds shall call upon you at dawn, to compete and reach a decision of who possesses more homoerotic hero worship for our Magical Genius President, and also who is the least conscious of being a complete object of ridicule. Have at thee!
..also, Democrat Party and Islamobjectivonazicommunizoids or something.

The economy is doing great. Banks aren’t failing, hedge funds aren’t depleting, and houses are still selling.
The wars are doing great. The Taliban are gone and Iraq has a stable government.
We’re safer than when he took office, except for the dead in NY and the 4k dead soldiers and the bomb victims around the world.
His popularity is sky high. Republicans were relected in record numbers in 2006.

Or maybe it’s all a lie that moral failures and the mentally feeble need to live with themselves.

zeppo – you’ll feel ever so much better after watching a Fox producer get totally pwned by first, Bill Moyers then a bunch of journalists.

I’m going to be suffering afterchuckles all afternoon.

We know Gonorrhea Hanson is one of those Historians. Who’s the other?

“I don’t get the hatred you people have for President Bush. The economy is better than the one he received. He’s made us safer. We’ve been victorious in two wars, the most for any president since FDR. His strength and resolve have been inspirations for millions and millions.

Bush will be remembered as a friend to Americans and an enemy to hatred. I consider him a friend, and I’m glad he has been our leader. It’s this type of ninny talk from you people that has driven me away from the Democrat Party for good.”

So much stupid and wrong in such a short space. And what kind of braindead fucktard uses the word “ninny?”

Sayonara, Big J. Have fun with those anti-ninnies over at the Republic Party.

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I don’t get it. Where’s the malfucntion? It seems perfectly nominal to me.

White House aides say Bush, who majored in alcoholism at Yale, likes to emphasize binge-drinking comparisons because they are easy for the public to understand and illustrate in dramatic fashion how differently future generations may come to view him.

Unfortunately for the president, many stoners have already reached a conclusion. In an informal survey of piss-artists this spring, a majority deemed him the “worst hangover ever.”

…a majority deemed him the “worst president ever.”

But the Albanians like him, and that’s the important thing.

“You won’t see any named after either Bush or Nixon or Reagan in the Heartland.”

You will in Texas. Like a whole other country? We should be so lucky!

Do you like to wear knickers? I do because I’m Winston Churchill!

And don’t forget Poland.

Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served! Welcome to reparations camp, honkies. Ramen is served!

“Remember, movement conservatism can not fail – it can only be failed!”

I see our Jonah’s been reading him some Digby!

How can you say Bush is a bad president? It’s not as if thousands of Americans have died at the hands of terrorists… I mean other than the World Trade Center… and Afghanistan… and Iraq. And he crushed terrorist groups around the world like Al Queda… OK maybe not. But the economy is cruising along with the middle class in great shape… ummm… unemployment is down… or the stock market is booming… well, but at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel on January 20th, 2009! So stop saying Bush is a bad president… think how good he makes all the other presidents look!

Highest number of cringe-worthy public moments with foreign heads of state.

That Bill Moyers video is beautiful.

And don’t forget this accomplishment—- he was the first president EVER to have his former press secretary accuse him of manipulating intelligence to deliberately start a war!

How cool is that?

Highest number of cringe-worthy public moments with foreign heads of state.

Heck yeah! Hands down, Most Inane Frat-Boy Behavior. (Really took it over the top with all the chest bumping recently, but ya know, he’s the kind of Commander-in-Grief who leaves no groan unturned.)

Who could forget Bush’s famous Blitzmassage on German PM Angela Merkel at the 2006 G8 summit?

And don’t forget this accomplishment—- he was the first president EVER to have his former press secretary accuse him of manipulating intelligence to deliberately start a war!

Clintonclintonclintonclinton!

Clinton’s fault!

Bush derangement syndrome!

Vince Foster!

/typical LGFer

0:15 nailed it.

🙂

Sorry to interrupt the worthy debate here, but say, will this “history” that you speak of provide any assistance with raising my kids? Coz, you know, vindication is all fine and dandy, but children(s) need food and clothes and stuff…

D.N. Nation–

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Me too, I’ve got some.
Bush was the first leader of the free world to come to an APEC (Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation) meeting and thank the hosts for having him at OPEC, y’know, the Ayrab lot.
And while at APEC in Sydney he was the first POTUS to have a bunch of comedians in a rented black limo with a couple of fake Canadian flagsget inside the red zone dressed as Osama Bin Laden.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdnAaQ0n5-8
Sorry about skill shortage – search for Chaser – APEC if the link doesn’t work.

Hi! I heard Bush call my name and I’m here to kick his ass.

As for taking a steaming dump on his face, I prefer to use a clean toilet. If I sit on his face I’ll risk getting an infection.

A fervent plea – will those who post using the names of trolls please break the name up so that GreaseMonkey lets the message through? I’ve got “Jason Ambrose” on a pie diet, so “Malfunctioning Jason Ambrose Robot 0.1” gets fed pie too. And I am *not* turning off my monkey. Life is just too short.

“Malfunctioning Jason Ambrose Robot 0.1? gets fed pie too.

To me, that’s a feature. Most of the robot comments are just wear and tear on the poor scroll wheel.

Most of the robot comments are just wear and tear on the poor scroll wheel.

Yep. Some other robot should do a Shorter Malfunctioning Wingnut Robot as a public service,

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