…And No One’s Getting Fat Except Gary Cass
Here’s Christian Newswire:
Homosexual Activist Blames Pastors for Murder: An Apology is Demanded
MEDIA ADVISORY, Feb. 29 /Christian Newswire/ — “Radical homosexual activist Matt Foreman, of the Gay and Lesbian Task Force,
spoke in a very irresponsible manner, slandering the reputations of Christian ministers in Broward County by inferring that they are in some way responsible for the murder of Simmie Williams,” said Rev. Gary Cass, of the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission. “Foreman is guilty of gross Christian bashing, the very kind of bashing he says he opposes against homosexuals.”
You know, we never considered it quite like that before.
Fig. 1: Radical Matt Foreman committing a physical ‘bashing’ attack on Christians
Fig. 2: The very kind of thing Foreman does, only against a queer
In a video posted on the Sun Sentinel website, Foreman declares that the pulpits of Broward County are teaching hatred of homosexuals, inferring that Christian ministers are in some way responsible for the murder of Simmie Williams Jr. who was found dead in Broward County on a sidewalk dressed as a woman.
Official accounts say nothing as to why the sidewalk was dressed like that, but it’s certain from viewing the video that Foreman not only inferred, but even implied such a thing. Indeed, he plainly said in English that hatred of homosexuals is not innate even among Floridians, but is instead taught, through vectors including the pulpits of Fort Lauderdale.
As Antonia Timmens used to say, it is possible!
Jones Of The Village People” Cass
“Radical homosexuals like Foreman are quick to exploit this tragic situation for their own political purposes and in order to bash Christians,” said Cass. “Matt Foreman owes the ministers of Broward County an apology.”
Hmm. Exploiting things for political purposes… Oh wait, that Gary Cass: The one whose last job was as the director of a notorious right-wing Fort Lauderdale megachurch whose media foundation was fueled by a $37 million budget. The Gary Cass whose first book, Gag Order: The Government and the Sinister Plan to Silence Your Pastor, provided cover for a failed Republican plan to allow tax-exempt churches to support political campaigns. The one with the new foundation entity1 whose most recent book, Christian Bashing, exposes the “threats, slurs and violence” that are being perpetrated against this helpless and long-suffering majority group of Americans.
Their tribulations include literally several carefully-worded and tactically ambiguous anecdotes, most of which had previously made the rounds via the Wingnut Telex — those massively-forwarded chain emails of the sort that identify Barack Obama as a Muslim extremist and that attribute Dominionist statements to Andy Rooney. Witness the atrocities:
- In Illinois, an employee of a national insurance company was fired for writing an op-ed in support of traditional marriage, even though he did it on his own time and on his own computer.
- Christopher Hitchens, on the day Jerry Falwell died, appeared on CNN and referred to Falwell as, “a little toad … a horrible little person… an evil old man… a conscious charlatan and bully and fraud.”
- Bill Maher, who regularly belittles Christians, began his HBO program on May 18 with a vicious, blasphemous attack on the Christian faith, making lurid remarks associating Holy Communion with homosexuality.
- Less than 24 hours after the shooting of Simmie Williams, Fort Lauderdale resident Melbourne Brunner was beaten outside the Floridian restaurant by a man who shouted anti-gay slurs at him and his partner. “This is how I break faggots’ necks,” the man threatened, before punching Brunner in the face.
- An employee of an Idaho computer company was fired after displaying Bible verses in his cubicle–in response to a pro-homosexual flyer distributed by the company.
- Howard Stern on his nationally syndicated radio show said, “If I was president, I would have you (pro-lifers) gassed. I would march you into the ovens.”
- Kathy Griffin, a self-identified militant atheist, was honored for her cable reality show. Upon receiving her reward she said, “A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this. He had nothing to do with this, …suck it Jesus! This award is my god now!”
Except we added an extra item to the list. See if you can tell which one it is!
Apparently 2007 was a high-water year for anti-Christian pogroms and makings-fun-of, and other brutalities unique and unprecedented in human experience. The seven most unspeakable outrages committed against Christians last year include the Christian who shot all those Christians at the Christian church, The Golden Compass, the Federal Hate Crimes Bill, and Amanda at Pandagon. Back to Cass:
“Faithful Christian churches must oppose homosexual behavior, just as they must oppose other behavior they consider to be sinful, but where is the proof that any minister has ever suggested or condoned violence,” asked Cass. “The fact is, no one knows who killed Simmie Williams Jr. or why. It is pretty safe to assume that the murderer was not a church member acting on advice from his pastor.”
This is, of course, consonant with the teachings of the Gospels, for when asked by Pilate to account for himself, did not Christ say, “I didn’t do it, you can’t prove it, nobody saw me”?
Plus, murder-schmurder: Some kids in Tulsa have been running around their high school with a digital recorder, saying ‘Jesus loves you’ and playing it backwards so it sounds like ‘We smell sausage.’2 A Christian heard and was torn to pieces by lions discomfited for literally almost an hour. Will your children be the next victims? Please check this box if you would like to make a repeating donation.
1 On the other hand, they’ve got Star Parker on their advisory board, suggesting that this operation might go blooey at any time.
2 It actually does.
In a video posted on the Sun Sentinel website, Foreman declares that the pulpits of Broward County are teaching hatred of homosexuals, inferring that Christian ministers are in some way responsible for the murder of Simmie Williams Jr. who was found dead in Broward County on a sidewalk dressed as a woman.
Kinda OT, but is that an acceptable use of “infer”, or am I right to think he should say “imply”? Noticed this a lot lately and wondering if it’s just me.
It’s incorrect. I noted it in a sidelong way — or rather ‘implied’ it.
I used to have this tiny little violin I’d haul out on occasions like this to give folks like Gary the solemn consideration their hardships deserve, but I loaned it to a friend years ago and some jackass broke it, along with my friend’s car windshield, through which said jackass had observed my friend and his boyfriend necking. But since my friend’s boyfriend yelled “Oh my God, you asshole!” at the jackass, it’s probably a draw between the forces of gay bashing and Christian bashing. Well, unless you count the four stitches from the flying glass.
You know. If I was a Christian, I think I would tell some of these “Christians” to shut the fuck up for making my religion look bad, and for making me look like I support and condone such rampant and unbridled stupidity. (Not to mention how awful it is that they make Jesus look like an ignorant and intolerant douchebag. Blasphemy, I call it. Sheer blasphemy.)
For the record, I used to be a Christian.
As usual for the modern American Christian “oppression” means “everyone doesn’t kiss my ass and tell me how wonderful I am as much as they should.”
How emotionally brittle and childish are these people? “Wahhh!!! Christopher Hitchens said mean stuff about Jerry Falwell! This is the worst brutality EVAR!!1!@” I find this stuff seriously embarrassing as an American and as a human being. When atheists and Unitarians start breaking fingers and shoving red hot pokers up your ass, then you can come crying, but for now you AREN’T FUCKING OPPRESSED! Stop acting like such damn babies.
I gave it up for a number of reasons, prime among them being the unfortunate silence of the less crazy Christians in regards to the batshit crazy Christians who have taken over the Republican Party.
I’m a Buddhist now. I’m not particularly good at it, but I just started.
Another reason I gave it up is that the Bible is just stupid.
One of the dumbest books ever written.
If I found absolute, undeniable proof that God really wrote it and wants us to live that way, I STILL wouldn’t be impressed. I would find it easier to conclude that only a stupid God would write such a stupid book.
Jeez, everyone’s a critic.
What about me? Biggest selling book in history and do I get royalties? Not a shekel!
If I’d written freakin Anna Karenina would I have got credit? Not likely.
I shoulda seen this would happen…
Did anybody here read Sartre’s play “The Flies”? (In French, “Les Mouches,” I believe.)
Orestes really fucks up Zeus’ shit in that one. No wonder Zeus sent The Furies after him.
I bet Orestes thought it was worth it.
Biggest selling book in history
Yeah, but a lot of those “sales” were bulk purchases by the Gideons Bible crowd trying to game the system. I don’t think they really count if they were later remaindered or given away free by missionaries.
As usual for the modern American Christian “oppression” means “everyone doesn’t kiss my ass and tell me how wonderful I am as much as they should.”
Kinda like Red Sox fans that way.
Yeah. I hear a lot of those “best-selling” Bibles ended up in hotel rooms.
…when asked by Pilate to account for himself, did not Christ say, “I didn’t do it, you can’t prove it, nobody saw me”?
He also said, “You’re not the boss of me!”
This is the day the Lord hath made for rest and worship, and you Sadlynauts are blaspheming away as always! Even if you have no faith, can you not at least respect the religious convictions of your fellow citizens? Must you always criticize the Godly?
Hmm. Gary Ruppert = nom de spume of Gary Cass?
Even if you have no faith, can you not at least respect the religious convictions of your fellow citizens?
Uh,no,why? Most religious folks don’t have any real respect for religions other than theirs, really. They certainly don’t have any real respect for the non-religious. I mean, really, do you think the average Christian really “respects” the average Muslim’s spiritual choices and vice verse? They both think each other is fundamentally and infernally wrong about the structure of the universe. At least I’m honest about what I think of various religious beliefs.
Must you always criticize the Godly?
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Sure, when they deserve criticism. Believing in a religion does not make one above criticism, especially when one is a filthy bigot like Cass. I’m with Hoosier X on his first statement. Maybe Christians who don’t like being held up as bigotted and small-minded should confront the bigotted and small-minded within their ranks rather than whining about those of us who insufficiently kiss their buttz.
And now, I gotta go to work…on a Sunday! For a Jewish person! And I’ll be stoned! And listening to rock & roll music!
“Runnin’ with the devil…”
P.S. I’ll more likely listen to Elvis than Van Halen (’cause VH is dull),but that’s still devil’s music.
Do you know who else has been victimized by the Great Gay’s field operation in Broward County? Ft. Lauderdale Mayor Jim Naugle. Oh, how he has suffered.
P.S. Check the video “Group of clergy flock to Naugle’s side,” available here.
Oh God, please tell your two legged-hyenas to shut their fucking faces before someone sends the whole stinking lot to you wrapped in a nice bloody bow.
Yeah right, assholes. Just like you have no idea why anyone would take it into their heads to blow up an abortion clinic. Stupid twats. Fortunately the secular commies at the ACLU will defend your right to spew as much hate as you like.
The good news is, the WATB’s rhetoric is sounding more and more like “OMG OUTSIDE AGITATORS ARE INVADING OUR HOMES!” hysteria of the civil rights movement. Though I’d prefer it if we could skip the dogs and fire hoses in this repeat of history.
Plus it’s gotta suck for them that Matt doesn’t conform to the leather chaps & nipple ring stereotype they’ve been pushing for years. “OMG! LOOK OUT, RADICAL F^GGOT!!” [Point to guy who looks like … one of them. Flock looks around for guy dressed in a tutu.]
And don’t you think it is way past time for another homo-hating fucker to be caught with his cock in a man who is not his wife?
I do.
Um, the “** It actually does.” does not apparently refer to anything, there’s no ** in the post?
Which one did you add?
atheist:
should, I assume, have been
I’m with Howard Stern on this one. We should gas these people now, and raise the collective IQ of the US.
If they think they are being persecuted now, I can’t wait to see them after Obama is
coronatedelected, after he criminalizes Christianity, mandates the wearing of the burqa, blows up all of those Ten Commandments monuments, etc.And is it just me or does Jesus look a little gay in all of those last supper paintings? I mean he’s wearing a dress, surrounded by a bunch of men, and he has that hippie hair.
This is the day the Lord hath made for rest and worship, and you Sadlynauts are blaspheming away as always! Even if you have no faith, can you not at least respect the religious convictions of your fellow citizens? Must you always criticize the Godly?
What? I was good all day Friday.
Hey, God! If you exist, then strike me down with a lightning bolt this minute!
Hmmm. The usual. No response.
Hey, God, if you exist— then strike down Gary Cass with a lightning bolt this minute!
And Jonan Goldturd! And the unholy Gary/Saul/St. James trinity!
Fuck, no answer again….WTF, what kind of an excuse for a deity are you, anyway?
Tell you what, “God” or whatever your name is, I’ll start worshipping Your pathetic ass the day I see those war criminals Bush and Cheney and all their lying sack-o-shit pals in orange jumpsuits in a courtroom in the Hague.
Until then, You can just suck on it.
The fact is, the We Smell Sausage trick is a horrible blasphemy. The fact is, like a million razor blades on the eardrums of the faithful.
The fact is, there has always been something Satanic about playing audio backwards.
Is that all it takes to do in the faithful? Cool.They’ll be out of here by lunch time.
Not that I have anything against faith. Kids like it and it comes with accessories, like jewlery and house decorations and books.
BREAKING NEWS!
Shorter Robert Novak:
The repugs want to run against Hillary. What other reason could there be for Robert Freaking Novak to be lavishing praise on Hillary?
Found guilty in a secret Christian court?
gross Christian bashing
Was a big bag of dicks involved? That’d be gross.
My, that Charlie Crist sure is fit, tan and single.
Some good Christian girl is gonna be happy to land him as a husband.
-GSD
I am eternally grateful to my parents for not infecting me with the virus that is belief in the Christian faith (or any other).
“Faithful Christian churches must oppose homosexual behavior, just as they must oppose other behavior they consider to be sinful, but where is the proof that any minister has ever suggested or condoned violence,” asked Cass.
You know, the day I see Christians en masse out protesting about lies and liars (I’m lookin’ at you, Bush and Cheney) is the day I’ll believe that they really are faithful, that their religious belief is something other than an excuse to indulge in bigotry towards people who are different than they are. Because to the best of my knowledge, God never said anywhere in the Bible that homosexuality is a worse sin than any other. My understanding is that ALL sin is equally bad in his eyes. So one has to wonder why they remain so focused on just this one particular sin. Or one would have to wonder, if we didn’t already know why (repression!!! projection!!!).
The fact is, homosexuality IS the worst sin. It says so in the Bible. Look it up.
It also says God helps those who help themselves, so stop the Obamaesque class war and work harder.
The fact is, Christians = Red Sox fans.
” …asked Cass. “The fact is, no one knows who killed Simmie Williams Jr. or why. It is pretty safe to assume that the murderer was not a church member acting on advice from his pastor.” ”
We don’t know who did it, or why, but I know for a fact that it couldn’t possibly be a Christian nutjobs, because those people are never violent or hateful towards fags.
Gee, Gary, I would have thought that worshiping a false god, or killing nuns, or conspiring with the devil to bring harm to god’s followers would be a prety bad sin. But apparently, sticking your doodle in a nother man’s hey there is the worst thing you can do. Huh. Thanks for clearing that up. Well, I gotta get back to polishing my golden calf. It has a built in phone/fax to Satan, so we can finalize our plans!
The fact is, homosexuality IS the worst sin. It says so in the Bible. Look it up.
The fact is, you’re full of shit. #1 on the Ten Commandments: thou shalt not kill. Homosexuality doesn’t appear anywhere on the list. From Christ: #1, love God with all your heart, with all your mind, with all your soul. Second only to love of God, love your neighbor. Let’s note that he didn’t say “love thy neighbor, unless he’s a fag.” Again, no mention of homosexuality.
I’m sure Gary “does not resemble Randy Jones of the Village People” Cass would suspect this young man’s sexual orientation, since he’s dancing solo in public and to the Devil’s Own Music, regardless of the kickassitude of the tune.
Well this is certainly a crappy way to start the morning. Nothing like the bible-shtumping, accusation-and-fist throwing christianists to remind a gay man just why he sometimes feels isolated and vulnerable.
And a big wet sloppy ‘Fuck You’ to Gary. Even if he’s fake.
The fact is, homosexuality IS the worst sin. It says so in the Bible. Look it up.
The fact is, it also basically says the earth is flat. Tell us, Gary: when sailing ‘across’ the world, at what point will your ship drop off?
The fact is, Christianists are beating up people in response to their own rape fantasies. It’s ALL in their own minds.
[hugs gbear]
Note also that it doesn’t say “Love thy neighbor, but definitely not by sticking your doodle in another man’s hey there.”
Sorry, just had to steal Some Guy’s line. It’s perfect.
The truth is, christianists are in their desperate last gasps, as more and more people abandon religion, are born in religions other than christianity, or splinter off into increasingly irrelevent groups. The era of megachurches is dying, as gas becomes more expensive, older preachers die off, and mass media makes more options available.
Society becomes more liberal, not less, as people become less isolated. And in time the free market will take care of christianist creche babies, once they can’t flock to government and megachurch jobs.
So let it be written. So let it be done.
I like the Yul Brynner touch at the end there, Susan.
Anti gay=closet gay.
Ask Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Bob Allen and Pastor Haggard.
-GSD
No, it doesn’t say “God helps those who help themselves” in the Bible, Gary. It says the opposite actually most times in the Bible. Maybe if you read it you would know that.
It also says God helps those who sacrifice to Him.
Hey, gary, wanna go to a barbeque with a guy named Abraham?
You can never go wrong with a little Yul Brenner.
“but where is the proof that any minister has ever suggested or condoned violence,”
Fred Fucking Phelps, anyone?
The fact is, that paragraph about “I smell sausage” was so funny I had to step away from the computer and compose myself, and then send it to a) my wife, b) my online friends, and c) my recording tech-studying-at-NYU son.
And the lions part was nice, too.
If the Romans had REALLY wanted to persecute the Christians, they wouldn’t have been throwing them to the lions … they would have been mocking their hypocrisy and pointing out their inconsistencies.
Nero: “If homosexuality is so bad, how come your big hero Jesus doesn’t say word one against it? Take THAT, you Christians!”
Christians: “The Romans are mocking our faith! This is the worst thing that ever happened to anybody in the ancient world!”
The fact is, Susan of Texas is not Yul Brynner.
But it is a lot of fun to compare these to today’s rethuglican party.
Vomit. All over my keyboard.
I do have confession to make. Way back in the 70’s when things for us limp-wristed blouse wearing poodle walkers was decidedly worse than it is these days, I enjoyed baiting gay bashers. (I’m actually quite butch) We’d hit the streets at two or three a.m., kiss each other sloppily near frat-row, whatever would draw some bashers. Then we’d kick the shit out of them.
Maybe Jonah is right after all, at least about me and my ilk.
No.
We’d hit the streets at two or three a.m., kiss each other sloppily near frat-row, whatever would draw some bashers. Then we’d kick the shit out of them.
That’s entrapment. Awesome awesome entrapment.
The fact is, Gary’s ship dropped off the edge of the world a long, long time ago.
Not just Fred Phelps. Tim LeHaye, the guy who co-wrote those shitty “Left Behind” books, is in favor of killing homosexuals, and, on “The 700 Club”, Pat Robertson once cited being gay as an acceptable reason to kill someone.
Then there’s Michael Marcavage (not a minister, but still a fundie whack-job), the Peters Brothers…I’m sure some of you can also name a “Christian” or two who favors the execution of homosexuals.
If you’ve never seen George Carlin’s hilarious smackdown of organized religion, do yourself a favour and check it out!
You know, for the long history of Christianity, there have been horrendous periods of persecution, martyrdom, and suffering that tested the faith of believers. (of course, much of that has been visited upon Christians by their fellow Christians, in some of their intermural rivalry).
Somehow, though, I think being mocked by Bill Maher on the TeeVee pales in comparison.
What whiny ass titty babies these modern Christians are! Suck it up and be a man! Saint Barbara had her eyes plucked out! you’re whining about being forced to view a flyer about tolerance?
I stopped being Christian when I realized that Robertson and Falwell and others like them had, throughout history, and would continue to forever into the future, define “being Christian” as something I definitely did not want to be. And these assholes lately, well they’ve completely co-opted, twisted and permanently stained and discredited the notions of Christ, “Christianity” and “Christian Philosophy”.
But then, Authoritarian motherfuckers tend to do that to every human idealism.
With Christians like these, I don’t have to do a THING to turn decent people away from Jesus.
Neener neener neener!
Which is why I don’t call them ‘Christians.’ Whatever it is they’re into it clearly has diddly squat to do with Christ. The term ‘Xians’ has been used but I don’t think it carries any heft to it. I’ve taken to using ‘christian supremacists.’ While it does incorporate ‘christian’ appending the second word seems satisfying in a linguistic positivist way.
gross Christian bashing
is when they are beaten up 144 at a time.
It is telling when the overriding purpose for a religious organization has become the justification for hate. This group. That one over there. Muslims. Gays. Catholics. Atheists. Abortionists.
It just seems to me that organizations, when they surrender their leadership to the most fundamentalist wing and move in philosophical directions that are antithetical to their original stated purpose, those organizations are in decline. Much like the Republican party of 2008, as they narrow their appeal to their most fervent, fevered believers, the broad appeal of the organization decreases, and it becomes a marginalized, highly vocal minority with no real power to move the political debate.
It is at that point, faced with helplessness and ridicule, that these organizations turn to violence and terror…
mikey
PeeJ, “christopaths” works for me.
I just go with the same construction they use for other religious wackjobs.
Christianist. Cristian Extremists. Christian Fundamentalist Militant. Christian Terrorist…
mikey
Y’know, I was so busy mocking these stupid fucktards and their idiotic religion that I let it go unspoken that anyone who promotes hatred of gay, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered people is just as despicable and just as responsible as the actual thugs who perform the actual physical violence.
To my knowledge, Adolf Hitler never personally murdered one single person, but it was his encouragement of hatred that made possible all the killing that happened during his regime.
As Voltaire once said, “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
I don’t give a shit if you like it or not, Christian fanatics, but LGBT people— and all people, for that matter— have a right to live their lives without being harrassed by scumbags like you.
And if you don’t like it, move to Iran.
This is a little late, but the whole ‘the gods help those who help themselves’ is actually out of Aesop’s fables. So if the god you are looking for help from is Hercules, help yourself. If it’s Jehovah, you are S.O.L.
There is some evidence that Adolf Hitler personally shot and killed his niece, “Geli” Raubal in 1931.
Although officially a suicide, it is at least as likely that Hitler murdered her as it is she killed herself…
Hey, maybe I CAN play in the Pedantry Olympics….
mikey
77south said,
March 2, 2008 at 21:57
This is a little late, but the whole ‘the gods help those who help themselves’ is actually out of Aesop’s fables. So if the god you are looking for help from is Hercules, help yourself. If it’s Jehovah, you are S.O.L.
Blasphemer!
The fact is, it’s really God and religion that are incompatible.
If it’s Jehovah, you are S.O.L.
Yeah, I think God doesn’t really give a shit. Which is fine by me. I have enough trouble with other humans fucking with my life, “helpfully” and otherwise. The last thing I need to worry about is some omnipotent being fucking with me, too.
Science triumphs again!!!
The last thing I need to worry about is some omnipotent being fucking with me, too.
That’s all I said and I was thrown out of heaven for it. Humans are Teacher’s Pets.
Humans are Teacher’s Pets.
So, THAT’S how that whole apple/knowledge/teacher thing came about! Hey! Thanks for making that connection for me, Satan!
In a Nero Wolfe book, he *burns* a dictionary for stating that “infer” and “imply” can be used interchangeably. I once had a furious quarrel with my sister over the subject; she thought it was ok to use either one, and went on and on about the flexibility of the english language, blah blah blah.
“but where is the proof that any minister has ever suggested or condoned violence,”
Over at The Stranger:
One of the commenters there wonders what Mr. Hutcherson might think about Jesus kneeling down to wash other men’s feet.
” . . . beat him with the wet end.”
The “wet end” of what, exactly?
I am hoping Howard Stearn did NOT make the comment about ovens, tho it would be understandable when you observe that most Conservative Christians look like the Pillsbury dough-Boy. I doubt anyone would eat them after they were cooked to a lovely golden-brown, though. Inside they’d still be vile. (Yeah, I just took 10mg of Norco)
There is strong evidence that the Christians of Rome DID set the fires that destroyed a lot of the city. They wanted to hasten “Judgement Day”.
Nero was innocent of the crime, and worked hard to help the victims. The killing of Christians in the arena was the normal practice of Roman Justice towards criminals. Arson was a very serious crime.
Turtles All The Way Down: EXcellent!
“God hates soft men”… “God hates effeminate men.”
The Rev. Ken Hutcherson’s own wrath, however, is aroused not by the effeminacy of other men, but by the thought that they might treat him as less than 100% self-reliant and own-door-opening.
Now, you and I might think that actually beating somebody to death is quite a bit worse then saying somewhat rude things about them.
But fundamentalist Christianity works hard to make people obsess about the state of their souls. A lot of these folks think that heathens and sinners are going to burn in hell forever. A gay person getting beaten to death is just losing his physical body; Howard Stern’s blasphemy might influence hundreds or thousands of people to abandon the lord and thus condemn them to hell for eternity.
If you accept the premises of Christian assholes, then these examples of “Christian bashing” really are worse than any gay bashing could ever be. In fact, gay bashing can be justified on a utilitarian basis, because while it hurts that particular gay guy, it theoretically could discourage many others from “sinning”.
I don’t know where I’m going with this. Just… what a terrifying world to live in, where every time you masturbate you risk being dropped into an eternal Auschwitz. What makes people think like that?
So could stoning adulterers (which includes men who marry divorced or widowed women) but you won’t see that happening any time soon because that would mean a great big mess in their nice MegaChurches. Jesus is very clear about sin: You’ve got enough problems without worrying about anyone else.” But the Talevangicals are no different from any other hate group. Instead of hiding under fancy sheets and saying they want to protect whites from the dreadful negroes, they hide behind a Bible and say they want to protect everyone from anyone who does something with their genitals except procreate.
Trust me, if God parted the clouds tomorrow and said “Yo, leave the gays alone, asshats,” they’d cower for a bit and then leap up “Hey, did you hear that? God told us to hit the gays with stones and bats!”
The only reason I don’t suggest kicking these guys in the face is they’re ridiculous or repulsive to a lot of people who don’t really care about gay issues either way. The more people who associate homophobia with Phred Felch screaming at a soldier’s casket the more people who recoil from the idea of homophobia. The more people who associate homophobia with people who writhe on the ground speaking in tounges, the more people who think homophobia is disease that afflicts red necks.
Ben Franklin used the “God helps those who help themselves” line in Poor Richard’s Almanac, so naturally Americans confuse it with Scripture.
What makes people think like that?
Not thinking makes people think like that. Well, not thinking, combined with fear, guilt and shame.
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Radical homosexualsHomosexualists like Foreman are quick to exploit this tragic situation for their own political purposes and in order tobashcrucify Christians,”Fixed. There’s nothing worse than half-hearted hyperbole.
If hardcore, right-wing “Christians” like Cass, Hagee, Robertson, Dobson, Donohue and countless other hardcore, right-wing “Christians,” want patriotic American citizens to stop calling them “out” as the dangerous bigots they really are, then these hardcore, right-wing “Christians” should stop acting (and thinking) like the hardcore, right-wing Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, Taliban, Wahibbists and countless other hardcore, right-wing Islamicists.
I consider myself to be a liberal Christian. I recognize the difference between what Jesus was teaching and what all these hardcore, right-wing religious bigots preach and practice. Plus, I also recognize that these hardcore, right-wing “Christians” are just as much a danger to our democracy, our Constitution and the Bill of Rights, as the hardcore, right-wing religious fanatics behind the 9/11 attacks. Hardcore conservatives are the same all over the world, and you can spot them based upon what a person is calling to be censored or whom the conservative is calling to be censored…often to death.
The fact is, there are many times more injunctions on heterosex in the bible than on homosex. It’s not that god hates straights, they just need more guidance.
Hardcore conservatives are the same all over the world
Great minds think alike, Oracle— did you ever see “The Fundamentalist Agenda” by Davidson Loehr? It makes exactly that point, but in more detail… a good read.
http://uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html
And of course, Robert Altemayer’s “The Authoritarians” is a must-read
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
As a Christian, I can tell you I’ve known a few Christians with a persecution complex, a very unfortunately and disheartening neurosis, considering they live in the United States, arguably the most tolerant (towards Christians) nation on earth. Looks like more of the same here with Mr. Crass. For shame.
I second Altemeyer’s “The Authoritarians.”
I just finished it a couple of days ago.
Altemeyer is a 21st-century bad-ass.
Christopher-
Masturbation isn’t even condemned in the Bible. ANYWHERE. That, of course, doesn’t stop some people from believing it’s a sin, but since when do people follow EVERYTHING the Bible says?
Once, there was this, like, guy who went to church every Sunday, and like, the islamohomofascists killed him. IT’S TRUE!!!
Do I look fat in these jeans?
Christians usually shrug off anyone “implying” that they aren’t perfect, but when you start “inferring?” Man, oh man. Then you’re in a heap o’ trouble.
You go, Chris!
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