I would just like to make the point out that I am NOT moonlighting for PJM.

Those younger men are surging all the time. Us older men, not so much.

Uh….SN? WTF is wrong with the sentence? The “but” obviously signals a contrast to the preceding phrase, which is negative, to imply that indeed he is surging.

And the comparison is for age, not sex. And not both. Sorry, but you guys are really stretching for material here.

This has inspired me to rewrite the exchange in the old musical, “The King and I” with Hillary as Anna and Pajamas Media as the Lady Thiang.

PJM: This is where you will stay, sir.
Hillary: Why do you keep calling me “sir”?
PJM: Ohhh, because you man of politics, not lowly like woman.

Thank you.

Barack is younger, he is a man, and he is surging…so much as I hate defending Pantload Media, I don’t see what’s wrong here…

Uh….SN? WTF is wrong with the sentence? The “but” obviously signals a contrast to the preceding phrase, which is negative, to imply that indeed he is surging.

I did think of giving Roger the benefit of the doubt on that one, but it’s a weird contrast given that McCain is, as Simon writes, 8 points ahead.

Eh, I agree it sounds odd even if it’s not incorrect.

Speaking of younger me surging, where did I leave my gay porn?

Come on Brad, sometimes you just have to take it like a man. Go ahead and face the suck.

Obama is surging, eh?
Obviously he’s one of those secretive and evil Tantra practitioners. Which clearly makes him a liberal, and therefore the fascist candidate of choice. No wonder he’s poised to win California! The polls may appear to contradict me, but this is not a refutation of my argument –

(Oh how long I have waited, so greatly yearned for the chance to say this.)

indeed, it is central to my point!

Goddam. And it’s the rule, not the exception.

Of course, what can ya expect when you got Ledeen naming his blog “Faster, Please,” ’cause they’re really proud of their batshit, dangerous, imperialist ideas ovar thar…

Agree with…well, everyone. It’s awkward but not worthy of ridicule. (“Younger” was presumably meant to be a comparison to McCain, though it’s not quite clear from the way it’s written.)

It’s terrible writing. It’s not clear who is surging or who Simon is talking about. If “younger man” is a foil to Clintion, then “younger candidate” would make more sense as they are both not men, and the language implies otherwise. Unless he is saying Obama is surging vs. McCain, but the evidence doesn’t show that. Or unless he is saying that the reason Obama is surging is because he is a man.

someone needs an editor.

It would have scored a C+ in my high school english classes. Poorly written at best, although not technically wrong.

In a college paper it’s D level writing. But among the wingnuts, full on copying is considered collegel level, so he’s playing above his colleagues level at that….

Jerkstore said,

Uh….SN? WTF is wrong with the sentence?

“…the younger man” implies a comparison to some other kind of man. Presumably older, and not surging. Try “the young man” instead.

Exactly, “younger” modifies “man,” implying that there are two men and Obama is the younger.

The worse things get for Multiple Mitt and the Devil Woman, teh stupider the wingers become.

I think an Obama v. McCain election might drive them all off a cliff like lemmings.

(Fingers crossed!)

The bottom line is, I for one am sick & tired of the candidates being referred to by their first names, except of course for “Mittens.” Try to show respect, Roger L. Simon. You wouldn’t let your children call adults they didn’t know by their first names, would you? This sort of thing is what’s wrong w/ America today!!

Younger than Gravel, of course. Wheras Gravel’s campaign might best be described as flaccid.

Banana’s in pajama’s

You wouldn’t let your children call adults they didn’t know by their first names, would you?

My father (i’m in my 30’s) refer’s to our Secretary of State as “Condi”. Like he’s had her over for coffee or something. Disrespect is sometimes totally subconscious.

The latest exit polls I’ve seen show Obama winning all states except TN, OK, AR, and NY. If they’re accurate, it’s going to be an Obama blowout.

I’m not sure where you live, Bouffant, but around these parts, it’s acceptable for children to call adults they know by their first names, provided that female adults’ names are preceeded by “Miss”, regardless of their marital status. Doesn’t seem to matter with men, they’re either Mr. so and so or called by whatever their first name is.

Adults you don’t know, on the other hand, are always “ma’am” or “sir”, and an awful lot of us carry that right on into adulthood. I’ll probably be calling grocery clerks “ma’am” into my 80s if I make it that far.

Awesome. On MSNBC, 7:18pm, the Aqua Velva / Old Leather sniffing freakChris Matthews just described the Republican Super-Tuesday situation as “looks like we’ve got a tight 3-way going on“.

Hee hee hee.

Jennifer, you living in Dixie? When I moved down there, it was explained to me that there are two ways of doing things: The Northern Way and the Polite Way.

Jerkstore, et al.: Sorry, but you’re incorrect. The word “younger” as a modifier implies that there is an other that is “elder” (or, as whippersnappers might say, “older”). Obviously Hillary is not a man (and I’ll brook no smarty-pants dissent on that point); therefore, “younger” is incorrect.

I know these things because as of yesterday I am a full-time media specialist.

it’s acceptable for children to call adults they know by their first names, provided that female adults’ names are preceeded by “Miss”, regardless of their marital status.

Jennifer: And provided the properly brung-up Suthen yung ‘uns pronounce it “Mz,” as in “MzNicky.”

I still call my parents’ friends “Mr. Smith” or “Mrs. Brown” and I’m in my 50s. But they’re all in their 80s, so I can hardly start calling them “Bill” and “Mabel” at this point.

MzNicky said: The word “younger” as a modifier implies that there is an other that is “elder”…

Did you even click through?

Here’s the (complete) PJM line:
The latest California Field poll shows McCain up eight, but more unexpectedly shows Obama within two points of Clinton in the nation’s most populous state. Other polls are less favorable to Barack, but it’s clear the younger man is surging.

The other elder man is obviously McCain. In fact, this had to be edited pretty intentionally to obscure that fact. WTF?

I don’t get it.

I say diagram that mother scratchin sentence and get it over with so we can move on to more important things, like ‘are brussels sprouts food?’ or ‘how stupid is Jonah? (Really fukin stupid).’

I didn’t see anything wrong with that sentence until I started reading the comments. Now I’m confused. Do you mean to tell me that Obama is NOT running against Bill Clinton?

McWyrm: The context that you provide implies that Obama is being compared with Clinton, not McCain. I would have worded it differently myself.

And no, I don’t click through PJ Media.

McWyrm: the comparison is made to points relative to Clinton, not McCain. If the point is to talk about McCain vs. Obama, then the Clinton poll reference is a gigantic semantic pipe wrench in the gears.

It’s crappy, sloppy writing.

I feel it’s better (in a feminist sense) to refer to adult female public figures, because that’s the way you do things with their male counterparts. But that can get confusing when they have a husband whose as or more famous than them. Sure, you can add Mrs. or Ms. to the front of their name, but that’s awkward.

With Condolezza Rice, it just feels like her first name is far more interesting than her last name. If someone said Rice, it would take me a few moments to realize who they’re talking about. Say Condi, and I know who you mean.

With Condolezza Rice, it just feels like her first name is far more interesting than her last name. If someone said Rice, it would take me a few moments to realize who they’re talking about. Say Condi, and I know who you mean.

Or say Cruella.

“I still call my parents’ friends “Mr. Smith” or “Mrs. Brown” and I’m in my 50s.”

Yeah, my oldest brother’s first wife started the tradition of referring to my folks (her in-laws) as “Mr.X” and “Mrs. X,” a tradition which was carried through by all of our spouses except mine (who called my mother by her first name – the old man was long dead by that time). I called my in-laws Mr/Mrs, in keeping with the tradition, even though they first urged me to call them by first name or as mom/dad.

I like the Mr/Mrs in this context – it provides a certain distance.

(apologies in advance for this firepup-style comment)

MzNicky, hope things are going well in the brand, spankin’ new job. Do they let you take an afternoon nap while you’re readjusting to full-time employment?

Now, now, in the generic sense (“all man kind,” etc.) Senator Clinton is indeed a “man.”

And by God I’m going to vote for her if she gets the nomination, just as I will vote for him if he gets the nomination. I will proudly vote eyes forward, shoulders square, saluting the Flag. Consider the alternative, four more years. Absolutely positively fuck you if you have even a God damned scintilla of a problem with that

Or say Cruella.

OK, now how in the moussed and blow-dried hell did Katherine Harris get into this conversation?

Hellifino, SM.

Okay, fine, W. Kiernan. In the generic sense, then, Senator Obama is a “woman.” Oh no, you say? And why not then, I respond?

gbear: Thanks! So far so good. I do sorely miss my afternoon naps though. The new boss people seem to frown on that sort of thing. Fascists!

In California, the older woman defeated the younger man.

Are we really arguing about adjectives?

LiberalRob, if it is not a worthy discussion to you on the state of our living language, then skip it. Anyone who does not take note of the decline of grammar in this country, not to mention the bastardization of the language by MARKETING SHILLS, i.e. “impact” as a VERB, turning every brand name into an active verb, turning acronyms into verbs, adverbs and adjectives, as if they’re ACTUAL WORDS — if you do not see this and attempt to educate others as to why this shit doesn’t work and is not good for the collective intellect of the country, then the shit just keeps sliding down into the shallow end of the gene pool where Dumbya and other morons will always reside.

That being said, if this is my long-lost and dearly-missed MzNicky from other blogs hither and yon, honey, would you DROP A WOMAN A LINE ONCE IN A WHILE?!?!?! I’ve missed you something awful, can’t find out from Stinkeye what’s going on with you & the hub, and have been worried for quite some time. Would you please drop by MOB or use my HO-mail address (I’ve got a new ISP address, so the old one you had last isn’t working anymore, and I’m not going to put the new one out here) and let me know how you’re doing? I finally got off of my ass and made-up that special batch of Whoop-Ass Tea for you, but I want to make sure that I’ve still got the right address to which I can send it!

We miss you. The Women’s Corps at JG are more of a corpse than a corps nowadays, since most of the other women have bailed on that testosterone-poisoning gaggle of dorks who, while a minority amongst the good men there, JUST WILL NOT DIE. But somehow, they managed to kill the Women’s Corps by driving away the best women in the blogosphere. We need you, Mz. Nicky. Even if you don’t come back to JG, please do get back in touch, wouldja please??!?!

Love, Annti