Ya should change the first link to this.

Better to do it the Steve Martin way…
“I say to her, ‘I break with thee, I break with thee, I break with thee’ then I spit on her shoes”

Oh, Sen. Ted, I’m sorry. It’s “…and then I throw dog poop on her shoes…”

Loved that album.

Brad, I read the article and immediately thought of it in terms of how the next generation has grown up with all of this technology. Not only do they take it for granted, it’s started to change the way in which people interact with one another. It seemed unlikely at best, some early dystopian science fiction, where technology alienated people from one another, but in a way, it’s happening, just much more slowly, and the people involved, they won’t recognise it because it’s how they’ve always lived.

kathyr was commenting @ Bats Left Throws Right & advised that her 14 yr. old son no longer IMs. Now it’s video chat on the computer, & the IM equivalent is texting on the mobile. Not sure if dumping someone via video is an improvement.

Were pre-IM teenagers braver about this sort of thing, or did they use handwritten notes, telephones / answering machine messages, or friends to deliver the bad news?

I never broke up with anyone using any of those go-betweens, but I’d heard of it happening, and when I was even younger and shyer I definitely used them to ask people out. Has anything changed other than the technology?

Sounds cold & awful, but still sounds better than the old finding your supposed s.o. in heavy action w/ another and getting a ‘yeah, I meant to break up’ past tense thing.

In Malaysia you can divorce your wife via text.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3100143.stm

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it not u it me 🙂

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Interestingly, if one looks at the history of early telephony, many of the same concerns about what would happen to human relationships show up in commentaries of the time. Critics of widespread use of the telephone worried about police monitoring, unstable relationships, less human interaction, etc.

That said, I myself have often thought that in Internet communication, we see what I call (and maybe this was said a long time ago) the “mask effect”. People use their devices and the distance as a mask. With this mask, they do say things they would not say in person, or even on the phone. The physical presence or even the voice of another human being are powerful conditioners of what one will say and how one will say it.

I once saw a funny satire on Internet communication in the form of a college comedy group holding a meeting and everyone talking as if they were in an Internet chat room. It was hilarious because of the more outrageous and crude things some of the players said. But it’s true; I think a lot of dialogue on blogs, etc. descends into silliness or even outright meanness because it’s a forum in which one’s Internet mask shields one somewhat from the immediate consequences of what one says.

OMG, dear LOLJohns, I love it!

U 4 mah boyfren, DO NOT WANT

YOU DON’T TEXT MESSAGE BREAK-UP!

i must confess to breaking up with someone via instant messaging. i know it was a shitty thing to do, but as we’d never actually met in real life i couldn’t see any other way. i wasnt going to fork out four hundred quid on plane tickets just to say “i don’t think this is working out”

Thanks for that, Hysterical Woman. The NSA eavesdropper eating takeout is a nice touch.

I KAN HAZ NU BOYFREN?

What a way to work on those social skills! In the “olden days,” even when having a friend deliver a message, that was often just opening the door for a face to face conversation. Now, IM and the internet are the actual, entire means to communicate, rather than the extras they should be.

Why should it be surprising or even bad that various ubiquitous forms of digital communication might cause significant evolution in the way people interact on an interpersonal level?

I’d think it would be much more surprising if that evolution didn’t happen.

To say “we didn’t do it that way” is disingenuous. We didn’t have the capability to do it that way.

If it works in the new generation’s culture, then it works. And there’s a whole lot more evolution to come.

Oh, and to be honest? When I have bad news for a client, I tend to email rather than call. Why NOT avoid that unpleasantness if you can?

mikey

I’m sorry. It’s “…and then I throw dog poop on her shoes…”

I was gonna say.

Sometimes I wonder whether memorizing stuff like “that cat was the best fuck I ever had” when I was 9 has warped my outlook on life. Hmmm…

freddybob, good point.

The fact that electronic communication also enables people to establish relationships that they otherwise wouldn’t is not being addressed.

These tools enhance and enable communications, duh, that’s what they’re for. That some of those communications are going to be negative, including gossip, crudity, and bad news like “it’s just not working out between us,” should surprise nobody.

I know that my virtual social life has been greatly enhanced since I quit just playing video games and got online. Blogs, IM, email, chat/vidchat, are great ways to open up socially, meet and interact with a lot more and far more varied sorts of people than I would otherwise meet if my circle were restricted to the people I actually see in my neighborhood or jobs.

I’ve been on both ends of it; it’s not such a bad thing to break up electronically if that’s how you met in the first place.

tb, I’m certain it has warped mine. Especially when I get so mad at my mother.

Well, I remember when I went away to school I lost touch with so many people who had been my friends – you had to write letters to keep in touch; long-distance phone calls were not easy from dorms. I am dating myself by saying this I know.

My kid and friends, with their cell phones and Facebook pages and email, stay in touch with much greater ease than I was able to do at that age.

I’m not sure what this does – does it just extend the amount of time before old friendships inevitably fall away? Or does it keep old friendships strong? Does it prolong the peer-pressure-cooker of high school, or does it broaden a kid’s world. I don’t know.

Loved the youtube video. too funny!

Telephone

Paper and wire killed my brother and my sister too
And if you don’t watch out
You know they’re going to get you too
And if I don’t watch out
You know they’re going to get me too
Telephone
Telephone
Telephone
Telephone

Well I strangled the cord
Ripped it off of the phone
And I saw the bone
And I saw the twinkling lights
It must have been rats [?? is this right? – any ideas?]
‘Cause it sure was a drone
It sure was a drag
Paper and wire killed my brother and my sister too
And if you don’t watch out
You know they’re going to get you
And if I don’t watch out
You know they’re going to get me too
Telephone
Telephone
Telephone

And I strangled
And I ripped the cord
And I saw the bone
And I heard these tweetin’ things
N twinkling lights
N there was nobody home
Where are all those nerve endings coming out of the bone?
Telephone
Telephone

Well I ripped the cord right out of the phone
And I saw the bone
Dammed gleaming white bone
Telephone

Paper and wire killed my brother and my sister too
And if you don’t watch out
You know they’re going to get you
And if I don’t watch out
You know they’re going to get me too
Telephone
Telephone

And I can’t get away
And I can’t get away
It’s like a grey adder at the end of the hall
It’s like a plastic horned devil

Captain Beefheart

Y’know, there’s worse ways than txt to be broken up with.
Like, say, over the phone, after three years, three weeks before your undergrad senior thesis is due.
*censored for misogynistic content*

Sometimes I wonder whether memorizing stuff like “that cat was the best fuck I ever had” when I was 9 has warped my outlook on life.

Grandpa bought a rubber!

Warped sure, but in a good way. Martin’s albums were seminal texts for me.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think Giuliani beat that with wife #2. Sure, the text message break-up is cowardly beyond belief, but it doesn’t quite rise to the level of cartoon villainy exemplified by the leading Republican candidate for President.

Man, I had one girl break up with me by introducing me to her old boyfriend that had just got back from the Marine and who I didn’t even know existed. Another went off to California and didn’t tell me, which wouldn’t have been so bad but she took about $200 worth of CD’s and books of mine with her. Another one broke up with me and said it was because she figured she could not only find someone who made more money than me but was also easier to control. And that’s not counting the past three women who’ve left me for, in order: a physically abusive ex; a manipulative, passive aggressive man 30 years older who still went off on weekends with his ex-wife; and a chronic philanderer ex.

I think I’d almost welcome being dumped via text messaging. At the very least, I wouldn’t have to make a special trip to get shit on.

Nah, there are even shittier ways to dump someone. My ex simply blocked my calls. Then, when I did reach her thru an intermediary, she agreed to meet with me to “talk.” She never showed.

Oh, did I mention I was in the hospital at the time?

Damn, sad stories Matt T. and D.F. Manno. I am proud to say I never treated a guy even remotely close to anything like that, and I am embarassed to be of the same gender as those who did. Sorry guys, some of them really are selfish bitches (and bastards, unfortunately the street goes both ways).

I don’t think anyone here is saying that electronic communication is bad, per se. It’s just that, like any innovation, it’s a double-edged sword.

It’s definitely easier to keep in touch with people via e-mail, MySpace, Facebook, etc. It’s also true that I’ve met people via the Internet that I wouldn’t have met otherwise, or probably would have been much less likely to meet.

But there are unfortunate consequences as well. I was talking about the “mask effect” in my previous comment, and I happened to see this story just today.

Now, the girl was having problems, and it’s unfair to blame the Internet for her suicide. Yet at the same time, I think it’s safe to say that Internet communication facilitated this kind of vicious prank. That’s the thing: with Internet communication, you can misrepresent yourself that much easier.

Furthermore, I’m not convinced that using the Internet as a buffer to avoid conflict is a healthy thing in every case.

Nah, there are even shittier ways to dump someone. My ex simply blocked my calls. Then, when I did reach her thru an intermediary, she agreed to meet with me to “talk.” She never showed.

I hate the “ignore him/her and he/she will go away” method of indicating you don’t want to see someone again. It’s really frustrating when someone simply does not have enough respect for you to be able to tell you he or she doesn’t want a second date, doesn’t want a relationship anymore, etc. Yeah, it’s an uncomfortable experience, but dealing with uncomfortable circumstances and owning your choices is part of life.

stringonastick,
Eh, that’s how it goes sometimes, and the vast majority of the women I dated were extremely cool. Hell, even the women I mentioned previously were generally cool, just not for that particular moment. And to be totally fair, I must admit that I’m pretty difficult to be around for extended periods, mainly because I can’t handle having anyone around me for extended periods. That can wear on even the most patient and forgiving ladyperson, I imagine. Plus, I’ve in the past show questionable judgement in not only chosing female companionship but also what I thought wouldn’t piss her off.

But ya know, I’ve come through it with a grin and I wish ’em all well. Life’s too short to do anything but laugh about it. Or maybe write some country songs.

Life’s too short to do anything but laugh about it. Or maybe write some country songs.

I’ve been doing exactly that. Wanna put some GeeTar to this little number?

Maybe you just don’t git it
But I’m tellin you boy I’d hit it
‘Cause she’s hotter than the surface of the sun
But I guess it’s not to be ’cause she’s a nun

Maybe you just don’t git it
But I’m tellin you boy I’d hit it
‘Cause she’s hotter than the surface of the sun
But I guess it’s not to be ’cause she’s a nun

Oh, and I’ve got more verses if we need ’em…

mikey

hey, i just noticed this and how timely. teens aren’t the only ones who use email inappropriately. i and my colleagues have had numerous bosses scold us for trivial shit in email in caps, red coloured font, underlined, bold…etc.

how they excel at improving morale. fuckers.

oh yeah, and my deadbeat dad, bless his cold little heart, shortly after my terminally ill mother’s death and i had nursed her singlehandedly in extremely onerous circumstances, sent me an email “get over your anger [about me being your deadbeat dad] and do something useful with your life.”

i took his advice and dumped him. in email.

touche you miserable fuck.

Shiiiiiiiit. I been dumped via every form of modern communication available. I am hoping to meet a woman who will dump me by smoke signals or perhaps via giant flaming beacons on mountain tops. Maybe someday I will reach that pinnacle of creepitude and be slapped or have a drink thrown in my face.

I hate the “ignore him/her and he/she will go away” method of indicating you don’t want to see someone again.

That’s teh worst in my book.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think Giuliani beat that with wife #2. Sure, the text message break-up is cowardly beyond belief, but it doesn’t quite rise to the level of cartoon villainy exemplified by the leading Republican candidate for President.

No way. Newt Gingrich has that beat by a mile.