I wish her luck, as the job market sucks royally right now.

Someone should twist the rules of the marketplace a bit to hire her. Heh.

EAT INVISIBLE HAND!

Hm. Anti-libertarian snark involving bootstraps, and Horatio Alger, and “Ayn Rand never asked for any extra dough or help getting a job, by gum!” will forthwith be omitted, seeing as how you’re vouching for her character and non-wackadoodle nature, Brad.

Good luck to Ms. Mona – you’ll need it. As Notorious P.A.T. sez, the job market is in the toilet at the moment.

On a side note – What precisely is the difference between a “good” Libertarian and a liberal? I would assume the difference between a “good” Libertarian and a “bad” Libertarian is the degree to which they think individuals should have to fend for themselves in this nasty, brutish and short life.

But isn’t a Liberal mainly a Libertarian who doesn’t buy into all that “bootstraps” and “invisible hand” economic Darwinism bullshit? Don’t “good” Libertarians revere Individual freedom, yet reject the ridiculous Corporate freedoms? Or am I way off base?

Honest question; which is more likely to be quoted by someone who hasn’t actually read it, the Bible, or Adam Smith’s work?
He was not a libertarian, to use the word anachronistically, and that “invisible hand” phrase is not an accurate gloss of his views. It’s like using Nixon’s “nattering neighbobs of negativity” to argue he was all about the power of positive thought.

Honest question; which is more likely to be quoted by someone who hasn’t actually read it, the Bible, or Adam Smith’s work?

Adam Smith created a metaphor that has passed into common language. Using it is not an explanation of his views – which I fell asleep to in college and cannot summarize – it is using a metaphor that millions of people understand. You don’t have to read the bible to use the mote/beam/eye metaphor, nor do people understand it when used as an endorsement of the idea that gods need to force themselves through people’s vaginas to make a point.

But it’s not the metaphor that’s used, really, in my experience. It’s the application to the old, established authority Adam Smith, who supposedly blessed an utterly free market. Only he didn’t, because I remember him talking about the need for regulations to ensure an actual free market. That’s what irks me about the whole thing.

adb, I’m pretty sure the “nattering neighbobs” thing was Agnew’s, not Nixon’s.

/nitpicking

“Nattering nabobs of negativism” was penned for Agnew by William Safire, Nixon’s Apologist Emeritus.

Yes, written by W. Safire for Agnew.

I don’t know much about Adam Smith’s invisible hand, but my invisible hand brings all the boys to the yard.

But it’s not the metaphor that’s used, really, in my experience.

I disagree: when people say invisible hand they mean an unfettered market and no more, which was Smith’s metaphor and is used correctly. Whether or not they understand that Smith had other ideas is irrelevant.

Gary Ruppert is cheating on us, y’all.

I feel so used.

KnaveRupe: Hm. Anti-libertarian snark involving bootstraps, and Horatio Alger, and “Ayn Rand never asked for any extra dough or help getting a job, by gum!” will forthwith be omitted, seeing as how you’re vouching for her character and non-wackadoodle nature, Brad.

I am not now and never have been a Randroid. Her Objectivist philosophy has much in it that I cannot abide. Further, she detested libertarians and was adamant that the label did not apply to her. (Moreover, I can’t stand her fiction because of her one-dimensional characters in the service of her polemics.)

I am a Hayek devotee. And while he was very worried about a total welfare state being inimical to liberty, he categorically did not oppose all social safety net programs.

And Brad, thanks for the helpful promo. Most sincerely.

Is this the Mona who has posted here before?

@ g said: C’est moi. I also link a lot to SN, because it is funny as hell.

Mona:

How do we give U dough? I can’t see a link for it on your blog.

EAT INVISIBLE HAND!

You know, there’s the libertarians who find themselves without money, and there’s also the socialist types who find themselves working for corporations or stock market traders (as I do), and there’s the right-wingers who could not survive without ‘wingnut welfare’.

We who care about ideology can often be caught in a personal contradiction like that. It’s part of the messiness of life. At least libertarians and socialist types, unlike the right-wigers, can see the contradictions involved when we are caught this way, and we can learn to be less rigid and more real-world about our political beliefs.

Umm, Brad or Mona, what might Mona’s qualifications be? (And an approximate, at least, geographical location.) That might help a bit, ‘tho I can’t imagine many Sadlyites being in a position to hire anyone, what w/ all the DFHs here. I can’t help, I am an unemployed post-hippie (I shower every three or four days) just like Kevin’s worst fantasy. But best wishes, Mona.

Atheist and M Bouffant:

Jim Henley couldn’t figure out how to put a Paypal button up for me, so he in his post blegging on my behalf, and I in mine (which is the one Brad linked to), just gave a link showing my Paypal email and account info. Then it is a matter of going to Paypal and depositing in my account.

As Jim said in his post, I have health problems so I’m looking for copy editing and proofreading work I can do from home. Further, if you click Brad’s link it will take you to my post listing my relevant qualifications — it is sort of a rezoom. BA, law degree, work I’ve done for Glenn Greenwald & etc.

Thanks!

Sorry, I’m scared of clicking on links around here (I let our hosts do the reading so my eyes don’t start bleeding) so I failed to follow through. Hell, I barely noticed the link. (Aging eyes.) I wish I could get some editing/proofing work myself. Hope your health improves, & hope that’s not why you’re out of work. (I’m mental, myself, & have the disability checks to prove it.) I have enjoyed your posts that’ve been linked to here (& not ’cause I’m mental).

M. Bouffant: Please don’t call yourself “mental!” My brother was a schizophrenic and lived on disability all of his adult life, unable to do anything meaningful. But many other mental problems are seen in some brilliant folks who contribute much, e.g. William Styron.

But yeah, I’m very limited in the work I can do outside of home, so that’s why the bleg.

Charity? Never! The market will take care of all. Just ask these fine people [http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/famine/hunger.htm].

I can’t seem to get the phrase “A Christian Scientist with appendicitis” out of my head.

Snark aside, good luck Mona.

I can’t seem to get the phrase “A Christian Scientist with appendicitis” out of my head.
It becomes even more persistent if you start humming it to the tune of Kokomo.

Mona: Thanks for the encouragement. I’m just depressed (which seems like a perfectly natural reaction to, well, everything) & having a little fun @ my own expense. I’m no Styron, but I can blog several times a day thanks to not working, & having worked most of my adult (?) life, I deserve a break. (And I am “brilliant.”) The physical manifestations of aging are no damn fun, but I can’t imagine being your age (guessed on dates of your resume) & barely able to leave the house/apartment. I more or less choose to hide inside, w/ a little help from agoraphobia.
Keep on with whatever/everything!!

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