Well, if he is, his thesis that HGH et al. don’t help hitting is being borne out. Maybe the steroids only work when you’re facing right-handed pitchers.

I’m sure the issue will die down once a bulked-up 45 year old flamethrower joins the team.

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Giambi = Bushie? You’re seriously making this comparison with Curt Schilling still available?

Which was more surreal: Giambi calling a press conference to apologize, but refusing to say what he was actually apologizing for, or that guy apologizing to Cheney for getting shot in the face? The answer is not immediately obvious to me.

As an A’s fan, I still miss Miguel Tejada. Giambi? Not so much.

He’s a perfect Yankee. They can keep him!

Hmmm…Giambi batting .342 in his last year with Oakland, .253 in 2006, now up to a whopping .273 before the patented post-season meltdowns set in -Thats if the Bronx Bummers even make it this time.

Dunno about giambi being on or off sterioids but the side effect of those “stomach parasites” sure did a number on him.

Well, if he is, his thesis that HGH et al. don’t help hitting is being borne out. Maybe the steroids only work when you’re facing right-handed pitchers.

I’m sure the issue will die down once a bulked-up 45 year old flamethrower joins the team.

I predict 2007 will go down in history as Steinbrenner’s Götterdämmerung.

I think that he’s secretly slipping in Jeremy just like those creepy gynecologist twins in Dead Ringers.

hey, let he who is without bush toadie curt “i am the appointed GOD of baseball!!!!!!” schilling cast the first stone, pallie!

More people who would be perfect Bush administration officials

There is simply no call for that kind of insult.

You wanna mock Giambi’s “food poisoning” that lasted a month or more, and his back problems, and that supposed tumor that was in a place so unmentionable that it actually went unmentioned, that’s fine.

But to tag him as a Bush administration guy … that’s just low.

Good day, sir!

Oh, sure, I believe he’s still trying to use performance-enhancing substances. However, judging from his current appearence, it looks like he’s relying on bacon dipped in Crisco.

I’m gonna go with the odd “Giambi’s clean” position. At least as far as HGH goes. My reasoning. I’m a Giants fan. I’ve watched Barry Bond’s head grow into the massive gun turret it has become today. I remember when Barry had a normal-size head. He was actually a handsome man. Now he looks like a Batman comic Villain – maybe he’d be called “The Head” or something. I swear he has to buy his caps from a sailmaker, they don’t come in three digit head sizes.

Just sayin…

mikey

Come on, this is all just your typical yankee hating. Giambi has acted the prick plenty of times in the past, but this statement is not one of those times. There are plenty of meatheads on the Sox who seem just as likely as Giambi to be on hgh or steroids — Ortiz, Pena, schilling, to name a few. Of course i’m just speculating, I don’t know what any of these guys are taking, but neither do you.

Sox fans can no longer merge liberal indignation with baseball. You guys have the strongest team in baseball and plenty of republicans on the roster. Baseball isn’t political, but if it was, it would pretty much be republican all around. It sucks, that’s why i choose not to think about it.

bacon dipped in Crisco

Hey, that’s what I had for breakfast!

Of course, the only performance that improves is the action in my bowels.

Well, no one on the Sox is as likely as Giambi to have used them, given the Balco case. No speculation involved– he confessed, end of story.

Schill is still an excruciating Bushie blowhard know-nothing know-it-all, of course.

First off, yeah, obviously Giambi’s still on something. I smoke a lot of pot, I’m not going to judge. Besides, if jocks want to shorten their lifespans to make the game more exciting, well, I’m ok with it. They’re jocks, they tend to be assholes.
Second, HGH, according to Will Carroll over at BP, who knows more about all this than any of us, is a red herring. Doesn’t do much for beisbol players. Not sure what the cocktail of choice is now, but that ain’t it.
Third, pitchers are just as likely, if not moreso, to use steroids, because of how the drugs work in speeding up recovery time from physical exertion.
Finally, Yankee hate = envy. Face it.

contrast the giambalco with the other NY first baseman, a guy who had to lear a lot of crap from everyone for taking a political stand. (even though his political stand amounted to not displaying the proper amount of appreciation for patriotic showtunes, which, having made his point, he later agreed to do with his current team.)

Speaking of that farce, I think there is plenty of liberal outrage to be wielded against the Skanks. Did you know that they use chains held by staff and off-duty uniformed cops to keep people in their seats during their daily loyalty oath…I mean, their broadcast over the loadspeaker of ‘God Bless America?’

YF in Boston is certainly right that since all baseball teams are large corporations, they are most likely mostly Republican in political affiliation. But look at the players, look at the character of the teams! Is there a more corporate team than the Yankees? Are there guys with caveman hairdos, or crazy beards or braids at the RNC? The conformist impulse, the authoritarian organization, and the compulsory show of patriotism that appear to be the essence of conservatism are most evident in the Yankees.

And then, of course there is the economic argument, the idea that the uniquely excessive spending in the Bronx is bad for baseball. This is a classic antagonism, the haves vs. the have-nots. (And, since even the teams that spend over 100 million dollars still end up with payrolls nearly 90 million less than the Skanks, you could make the case that there is one ‘has’ and 29 ‘have-nots.’)

The only problem with this is that all this cash and all these star players have brought no silverware to the Bronx. In order to be accused of buying a championship, you need to have won one. With teams with less extravagant payrolls winning the past 6 World Series, the aspect of Steinbrenner’s overspending that is destructive to competition in baseball appears less egregious.

Nothing better than watching Yankee fans in full meltdown — using the same kind of schitck that the GOP uses toward the Dems when they’re caught in some crime. Well the Democrats are just as bad! William Jefferson!! Sandy Berger!!!

For the record I don’t think A-Rod or Posada or Jeter has been on the ‘roids. I know Giambi has. I also don’t think Ortiz did — he’s 6-4 for fucksake, and while I think Schilling’s a whore, he’s our whore and we deal with it.

The Sox player I was convinced was on juice? Nomar. That shot that graced the cover of SI a few years ago was a cry for help.

Sox fans can no longer merge liberal indignation with baseball. You guys have the strongest team in baseball and plenty of republicans on the roster. Baseball isn’t political, but if it was, it would pretty much be republican all around.

The strongest team in baseball? We’ll see about that. The Sox may have a better record than the Mets by two games but then the Mets haven’t had the chance to fatten up on the Yankees yet. And yes when it comes to whitey, lots of conservatives in baseball. I’m not so sure about the latin players though and the Mets are stocked with them. And one of them is an out of the closet socialist, Carlos Delgado. Vamos los Mets!!

yankee hate= envy

I was going to address this, but since I’d written so much, I left it out.

Recently I was arguing politics with my girlfriend, who is a Republican. She’s so far gone that she still thinks Fox News really is fair and balanced. In the course of our argument, she said she thought Bush was a good president.

I then rattled of a list of the collosal fuck-ups this administration has perpetrated, allowing 9-11, lying about Iraq before the war, ruining the country and losing the peace after the war, losing Osama, Katrina, the whole Terri Schiavo thing, the war on civil liberties, the imperial presidency, the Walter Reed scandal, etc.

After all of this, she says ‘I don’t understand why you liberals hate him so much.’ I nearly shit myself…

My point is, there are legitimate reasons to dislike the Yanks, not least the universalist attitude of their fans. I don’t think everyone needs to be a Met fan. I don’t say to Marlin fans ‘fuck the Marlins. Marlins suck. You should root for the Mets instead,’ but that’s what I heard from a guy in the pizza place.

26 world series. Fine. How many had they won when you started rooting for them? It was no less than 20, for most Yankee fans. So you picked the team that already had the most wins.

And let me ask you this: How many games are those 26 World titles going to win for you this year? When your team is up to .500, then you can accuse other fans of envy. What’s to even like about the 2007 Yanks, let alone envy? They are 10 games out, as close to being buried as you can be in May, and about to make it worse.

Those chains are to keep seat hoppers from getting into the really expensive seats. And all baseball teams try and discourage people from moving around the stadium during the anthem, rookie ball to the bigs, but especially in the bigs to look nice on tv. You’re blaming the Yanks for doing what all baseball teams do, Ianua.
And it’s not a friggin conformist impulse, Steinbrenner is a petty tyrant who bans facial hair n long hair.
And, yeah, they’ve shown you don’t buy championships. Cashman knew that already, but it took Pavano to teach George that. Hence Phil Hughes not being traded, nor will Tabata be.

N blahblahblah.
I was born n raised in a suburb of Albany, n my father grew up rooting for the Mick.

Oh, and I’ve lived in nyc since the summer of 99, after graduating college.
Is it ok for me to root for them, then?

I’d argue that the Yanks = the GOP meme is actually inspired by the same reasoning that defines GOP arguments on virtually every topic – namely that because the Yanks are seen as “evil” by virtually all of the sports world, and even much of the non-sports world, then everything associated with the organization must, by definition, also be evil.

For fuck’s sake, ALL professional sports organizations are corporations; corporations exist to make money for their shareholders. Period. Players make a lot of money to play for the Yanks and the Sox. The Yankees happen to have a lot of money, which they spend, often very unwisely. Yes, they have rigid rules to be followed by the players. Did GIambi shave, cut his hair, and cover his tattoos out of a desire to “conform,” to Steinbrenner’s authoritarian utopia? I doubt it. I kinda think he thought the Yankees, who dropped a boat-load of cash in his lap, were his best chance to win a ring – coupled with the “glory” that comes with playing in NYC. Did he sell out? Totally. He had a price; Steinbrenner met it; he got paid. Who wouldn’t?

When guys come to the Yankees, they do so with a few understandings: (1) it’s Jeter’s team; (2) NYC is a tough town; (3) Steinbrenner is an asshole who will impose his delusions of grandeur on your life at some point; (4) there is a good chance you will win; (5) you will get paid. I think a lot of guys say, “sure,” I can cut my hair and put up with this rigidity ’cause I’m gettin’ paid, Jack, and I’ve got a chance to win a ring.

As far as I know, conservative assholes are everywhere, in every organization, on every team. There is nothing about the Yankees that makes this especially true. To state otherwise is to go along with the proposition that everyone who works in a rigid corporate atmosphere is goose-stepping fascist. It just ain’t true.

The Sox player I was convinced was on juice? Nomar.

Don’t forget me!

You beat me to the Delgado reference Ianua Ditis. I was listening to one of the local sports call in shows and wingnuts were calling in saying that they’d never go to another Mets game again as long as Delgado was on the roster and (damn I hope they were serious) and a lot of them took the chance to complain that Omar Minaya was stocking up on Latin players too. I really had no choice but to buy my son a Delgado jersey the next day.

Sorry to get so pissy, but those were some cheap shots. Thanks to Legalize for giving a substantial response instead.

The Yankees are the NAMBLA of professional baseball. I will explain why in a moment.

To needlessly qualify, bradrocket mocking Giambi wasn’t a cheap shot, he’s earned what he gets, and is paid handsomely for it. Cheap shot is implying Yankee fan = bandwagon jumper.

Oh, yeah, mocking Giambi is fine, as is mocking the Yanks’ strings of failures. However, comparing Giambi to a Bushie – with Schilling hanging out there – because the Yanks are “all corporate and shit,” and because their fans are all front-runners, is silly.

For the record, I can’t tell you how many brand new Mets fans there are running around NYC these days, and how many brand-spanking new Sox hats were issued into circulation after the Sox won the Series in 2005 – just sayin.

As far as I know, conservative assholes are everywhere, in every organization, on every team.

True.

There is nothing about the Yankees that makes this especially true.

Sadly, as they say, NO!

Steinbrenner is a convicted felon who funneled illegal campaign funds into the Nixon reelction campaign. He was later pardoned by Reagan.

Added bonus: Steinbrenner hired a fellow felon to spy on Dave Winfield.

Plus added bonus: John Henry, Tom Werner and Theo Epstein campaigned for John Kerry.

Extra special added bonus: Epstein’s dad, Lesley, the head of the creative writing department at Boston University (and a born and bred New Yorker) said, “I’ve always been a Red Sox fan,” Leslie said. “I hated the Yankees so much. To me, rooting for them would be like voting Republican.”

Utterly meaningless, of course. But then, you guys are getting all defensive about it, so it becomes relevent to the discussion.

As far as I know, conservative assholes are everywhere, in every organization, on every team.

True.

There is nothing about the Yankees that makes this especially true.

Sadly, as they say, NO!

Steinbrenner is a convicted felon who funneled illegal campaign funds into the Nixon reelction campaign. He was later pardoned by Reagan.

Added bonus: Steinbrenner hired a fellow felon to spy on Dave Winfield.

Plus added bonus: John Henry, Tom Werner and Theo Epstein campaigned for John Kerry.

Extra special added bonus: Epstein’s dad, Lesley, the head of the creative writing department at Boston University (and a born and bred New Yorker) said, “I’ve always been a Red Sox fan,” Leslie said. “I hated the Yankees so much. To me, rooting for them would be like voting Republican.”

Utterly meaningless, of course. But then, you guys are getting all defensive about it, so it becomes relevent to the discussion.

And Sox fans being front-runners? Holy shit. The Sox, in a stadium a little more than half the size, outdrew the Yanks several times in the 90’s, including 1996, when the Yanks won their first Series under Torre.

N the Red Sox were the last team in the bigs to integrate, by over a year, well over a decade after Jackie Robinson hit the bigs.
Your point?

Oh, fer gawd’s sake, now I gotta worry about my sports team’s connection to Nixon? That just about invalidates every reason I have for paying attention to professional sports – namely, a DIVERSION.

People. You better be pretty damn sure that “your team” hasn’t dipped into the magic juice before you start throwing rocks at the resident Yankee Harley owner, Giambi.

And damn, it’s hard to type when you’ve got some Jim Beam flowing through ya,

Fuck all this baseball/politics shit. I love my A’s. Yanks fan love their team too. ‘Nuff said.

What I wonder is why Ianua Ditis is crazy enough to be sleeping with a Bushbot. She must be the greatest thing since sliced bread, man. I could NOT get into a serious relationship at any level with someone whose view of the world was a): so diametrically opposed to mine and b): so utterly detatched from reality.

snowwy, you took the words right out of my mouth. and incidentally, i’ve been a yankees fan since birth, as was my georgia born-and-raised father. i can remember the 1980s pretty damn clearly, when we were absolutely terrible. i don’t like being called a front-runner; i’m a real fan, unlike the approximately 50,000 people in the metro DC area who bought bosox caps on 10/28/04. just sayin’…

Individual Yankees, I like; The Yankees, I hate … except when they’re the underdogs. As for Giambi, surely you’ve noticed he’s 2/3 the size he was a few years back? The dope he’s on is probably just the conversion effect, that is, he got religion about not doing steroids any more and now he’s high on self-righteousness. He’s still a great player. The real hypocrisy comes from us, the fans — expecting ever-increasing wonders from players we’re the first to condemn for cheating so they can live up to our ever-increasing expectations.

Ianua Ditis, two words-dump her. Incontinentia Buttocks, ever notice how Tejada’s power numbers dropped when they started steroid testing?