Moral Authority is Important

Unsurprisingly, it looks like the Iranian government treated the captured British sailors like dogshit:

ABOUT CONDITIONS IN CAPTIVITY

“…On arrival at a small Iranian naval base we were blindfolded, stripped of all our kit and led to a room where I (Lieutenant Carman) declared myself as the officer in charge and was introduced to their local commander.

…Two hours later, we were moved to a second location and throughout the night were subjected to random interrogation.

…The questions were aggressive and the handling rough, but it was no worse than that.

…The following morning, we were flown to Tehran and transported to a prison – where the atmosphere changed completely.

…We were blindfolded, our hands were bound, we were forced up against the wall. Throughout our ordeal we faced constant psychological pressure.

…Later, we were stripped and dressed in pyjamas. The next few nights were spent in stone cells approximately 8ft by 6ft, sleeping on piles of blankets.”

Memo to the pro-torture, pro-detainee abuse American Right: this sort of treatment isn’t just wrong when it’s done to British sailors. It’s wrong when it’s done to anyone, for any reason.

Consider that the next time you catch yourself wanking off during 24, you moral relativist creeps.

UPDATE: Oh. My. God (images added in between lines are my touch):

The White House on Friday condemned as “unfortunate and extremely disappointing” any mistreatment by Iran of British naval personnel held captive by Tehran for roughly two weeks.

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“What the sailors said this morning is unfortunate and extremely disappointing if they were treated inappropriately in any way,” national security spokesman Gordon Johndroe told reporters.

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“If what they described is accurate, and I have no reason to believe it is not, if what they described is accurate then that would not seem to be appropriate behavior and action,” said Johndroe.

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Have I mentioned before how much George W. Bush and his administration make me want to throw up every time I hear or see them?

 

Comments: 42

 
 
 

But, but, there might have been a ticking time scone. It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

 
 

The lousy Tehran Hilton still sounds like better digs than Abu Ghraib. Sad stuff.

 
a different brad
 

But the relativism is the key, non-different Brad.
Them dirty brown muslims treat each other worse at home than we treat them at Gitmo n Abu Ghriab. They’re like, animals and stuff. Pam told me so, and breasts like that don’t lie.
White people, on the other hand, are CIVILIZED, unlike these brown people living where civilization was invented. And the Iranians should have remembered that, and put them up in 5 star class housing. The sailors, however, should have refused to eat or move or even use the islamicizing toilets in Iran and shat their pants, and are dhimmi collaborators who should be debriefed in Gitmo for this.

 
 

Sounds a helluva lot better than Abu Ghraib or Gitmo. By a long shot.

 
 

Abu Ghraib Holiday Inn Express.

Guantananamo Motel 6.

“Cardinal Fang! Fetch the soft cushions!”

 
 

Like dogshit? They appear to have been treated vastly better than the Americans and British treat their captives.

 
 

and breasts like that don’t lie.

Ohohoh, yes they do.

 
 

Yeah, but don’t the new suits and sports bags make up for it?

 
 

OMG! Forced to sleep on a pile of blankets!

The animals!

 
 

Actually, yeah, like dogshit. That does not contradict the fact that they were still treated vastly better than people in American custody (who, might I add, were not picked up in our own backyard).

Meanwhile, I’d love to be outraged by this, but … Y’know, I’m an American.

 
 

OMG! Forced to sleep on a pile of blankets!

The animals!

Well, that’s not bad. Stripping them, humiliating them and forcing them to sleep in 6×8 cells is bad. That’s kinda my point in the post- treating your prisoners with dignity is, y’know, a good thing.

 
 

Aha! I, Ann Althouse, knew that this was one of those unscrupulous Breast Blogs that’s appearing all over the left of the blogosphere.

As you know, at great personal cost to myself, Ann Althouse, I, Ann Althouse, exposed one of these blogs, the one whose name is a filthy portmanteau that I, Ann Althouse, do not care to repeat even in this vicious company.

Despite your best efforts to destroy me, Ann Althouse, and accuse me, Ann Althouse, of being a narcissist, I, Ann Althouse, will continue to selflessly make you think of me, Ann Althouse, whenever you read this blog, thus making you incapable of focusing on the breastesses towards which your filthy minds naturally gravitate.

One day you’ll thank me, Ann Althouse.

 
 

Actually, I don’t think any of that treatment was inappropriate for captured military, especially when the other nations have been threatening to attack you for years. They (apparently) weren’t beaten, weren’t deprived of food or medical attention. You cannot expect a situation like that to be a vacation. They are going to treat you harshly. That does not amount to torture, and the only “humiliation” they suffered was being captives in the first place. If America had treated detainees like this, there never would have been a peep from anyone – it’s normal, and one could even say appropriate…

mikey

 
Incontinentia Buttocks
 

Well, that’s not bad. Stripping them, humiliating them and forcing them to sleep in 6×8 cells is bad.

Oh, come on, St. Braddy! You’re among friends. Admit it. We DhimmiMexIslamoFasciSurrendercrats luv it when our pals like Achmediniwhatsisjad humiliate America…or Britain…or whatever.

 
 

I can’t help thinking that the rumor about a Good Friday attack on Iran is what facilitated the release of the British captives.

Thank G-d they’re safe now.

 
 

From Psycheout’s blog:

The Jerusalem Post has an article claiming that the United States will finally attack Iran on Good Friday (tomorrow). It would be about time. But I have my doubts that it will actually happen.

We can only hope. It would be about time. And the Bush Administration is running out of time.

….

It’s time to hit the mad mullahs and hit them hard. Will tomorrow be a Good Friday or just the seque to yet another weekend? Time will tell. It’s time to pray. If we finally give Iran what’s coming to them, remember that you heard it here first. If it doesn’t happen it’s time to send President Bush letters and emails of support. He knows what to do. It’s time we let him know that we’ve got his back.

You claim to care about the lives of fourteen sailors. But at the same time, you are calling for actions that would kill tens of thousands of Iranian civilians.

How do you explain this dichotomy? If the British Sailors lives are worthwhile, then why are the lives of Iranian Civilians not worthwhile?

 
 

“…makes me want to throw up…”

Oh for chrissakes. You’re among friends. Go on! Live a little!

 
 

I can’t help thinking that the rumor about a Good Friday attack on Iran is what facilitated the release of the British captives.

Thank G-d they’re safe now.

Yes, given that all the bellicose threats the US has made to Iran have made it give up its nuclear program, as well as the extremely successful threatening of North Korea (which made it give up its nukes and become a transformational democratic state), I can see how your logic is quite sound.

 
 

Dear St. Braddy O’McBradrocket,

Do as we say and not as we do.

Got it?

Hugs and kisses,

The U.S. government

 
 

Hell, they could have at least forced ’em to masturbate into each other’s mouths or something manly and masculine like that.

But I’m sure what we need to take away from this, according to Bush & co., is that Iran is a bunch of pussies who can’t even mistreat their prisoners right, so they’ll be a pushover when we invade. Q.E.D.

“They’re WIMPS! It’ll be a CAKEWALK!”

 
Smiling Mortician
 

Well, I for one am shocked — shocked! — that Psycheout hasn’t answered atheist’s questions. I mean, I’m sure he has a perfectly rational, moral and ethical response. Can’t imagine what he’s waiting for.

 
 

SM, Psycheout can’t answer atheist’s questions. To do so would embolden our enemies. And they’re plenty emboldened. If they are emboldened anymore, we might see another day like 01/31/07. When we are in a fourth generation information war, we cannot let petty things like facts or reason give aid and comfort to those who would kill us.

 
 

You claim to care about the lives of fourteen sailors. But at the same time, you are calling for actions that would kill tens of thousands of Iranian civilians.

How do you explain this dichotomy? If the British Sailors lives are worthwhile, then why are the lives of Iranian Civilians not worthwhile?

The Iranian government is still our enemy. But I suppose you don’t understand that, since you libbies feel rather than think. Our allies are more valuable than our enemies. I hope that’s not too hard to understand while you’re making with “teh funny.”

SM, Psycheout can’t answer atheist’s questions.

I guess so.

 
 

The Iranian government is our enemy, so a callous disregard for the lives of Iranian citizens is okay. That logic qualifies you for membership in the Revolutionary Guard. Congratulations, I guess.

Notice we’re not saying “never make war on our enemies”; rather, we’re saying “try like hell to avoid making war on our enemies”. We just don’t see anyone trying like hell – just the opposite, in fact.

 
 

The Iranian government is still our enemy. But I suppose you don’t understand that, since you libbies feel rather than think.

I was under the impression that the Iranian people weren’t however our enemies. Strange that I view that bombing the Iranian people will not encourage them to think fondly of American Middle East policy.

Our allies are more valuable than our enemies. I hope that’s not too hard to understand while you’re making with “teh funny.�

Yet bombing the Iranians would probably kill, if the Iraq war is a good measure, thousands of Iranian civilians. And also would have all kinds of consequences that cannot be predicted, much like the Iraq debacle. I still like how you think the Iranian people are somehow our enemies. Somehow I with that sort of mentally I can strangely understand how the US got into the quagmire in the first place and why the whole “turn Iraq in to a shining beacon for democracy” kinda hasn’t worked out all that well.

SM, Psycheout can’t answer atheist’s questions.

I guess so.

Oh man, you got me. Damn.

 
 

The Iranian government is still our enemy.

Why? How? Have they attacked us? Despite what the administration tries to say, our troops occupying Iraq are being killed by Sunni Insurgents and Salafi Jihadis. Not Shiites. Iran is ECSTATIC with the way the American fostered Democracy has turned out in Iraq. The Iraqi “government” needs the American military to keep them in power. Iran has every legitimate right under the NPT (to which it is a signatory, unlike our allies Israel and India) to enrich Uranium. I’m totally unclear on what makes them our enemy. And I reject that we have to kill large numbers of them. Dude, you fucking death worshiper, they LOVE us. They want to be like us. Persians are desparate to be our friends, if only we could let them. They willl never launch on Israel, because that will end them as a nation, at the very time they have regional power. Thanks to the bush administration.

Why is it so hard to try to find a way to live together on this planet without butchering one another? Could it be that scum like you and cheney push hatred and fear for small personal gain? I reckon so….

mikey

 
 

I hope that’s not too hard to understand while you’re making with “teh funny.�

Believe it or not, I’m not joking. I agree with you that the lives of the British Sailors are important. Can you explain to me why the lives of Iranian Civilians are not?

 
 

Our allies are more valuable than our enemies.

OK. Then I guess I should ask:

– Why do you consider the Iranians our enemies?
– Do you consider all Iranians our enemies, or only their government?

 
 

Fuck Bush for giving Ahmenidajad (sic) the opportunity to treat us better than anyone in our custody. And fuck Iran too, while I’m at it.

 
 

I wouldn’t want to be one of Bush’s hostages.

 
 

I wonder if any of those Abu Ghraib photos show step-by-step how to attach electrodes to genitals? I mean, IML is only about a month and a half away….

 
 

If it doesn’t happen it’s time to send President Bush letters and emails of support. He knows what to do. It’s time we let him know that we’ve got his back.

Actually, it’s pretty clear from the polls that no one has Bush’s back. No one supports him, other than some mouth-breathers that make up about 30 % of the US population.

And “he knows what to do?” Huh? What evidence do you have that Bush knows what to do? Bush has pretty much confirmed that his multiple failures as a manager in the private sector is not an abberation.

Bush hasn’t EVER known the right thing to do. He didn’t know what the fuck to do on the morning of 9/11 when he froze like a bunny in the headlights and hoped that Unka Dick would take care of everything. He didn’t know what to do when thousands of American citizens were suffering from thirst, starvation and heat prostration in the ruins of an American city. He didn’t know what to do when the Chinese captured one of our planes.

With every decision or action he’s made, he’s pretty much confirmed that he’s an incompetent asshole.

 
 

The Iranian government is still our enemy. But I suppose you don’t understand that, since you libbies feel rather than think.

Er, dude, the Iranians aren’t our enemy until we actually declare war on them. You know, like it says in that Constitution thingie (Article I, section 8).

You know, I’m guessing that you’re one of those SUV-driving motherfuckers that own the road. I think $200/barrel oil might change your perspective a bit. Or not, given that batshit fucking insane people are impervious to reality, even when they’re trying to push 6000+ pounds of steel uphill. Yeah, keep praying for war, dickhead. General Ripper ought to be transmitting Plan R to the wing any minute now…

 
Qetesh the Pink Abyssinian
 

The Jerusalem Post has an article claiming that the United States will finally attack Iran on Good Friday (tomorrow). It would be about time. But I have my doubts that it will actually happen.

‘About time’? What, because the Iran-Iraq war, in which the US supported both sides at various times, didn’t devastate both countries quite enough? Because Bush-baby wants to be able to point to two Middle Eastern countries he’s ruined when he retires, not just one? Or because it would make a nice Easter present for sick puppies like you?

You fuckin’ what?!? Clarify for me, please: you’re suggesting that you, and others like you, hope for the painful deaths of hundreds or thousands of innocent people?

It would be about time. And the Bush Administration is running out of time.

With all those indictments and convictions, they certainly are. They’re also running out of lackeys. Bush might have to do his own running around by then.

It’s time to hit the mad mullahs and hit them hard.

Do you have Smart Bombs that only kill theocrats? If not, then you’re advocating the slaughter of innocent people. Quite aside from the fact that those ‘mad mullahs’ you deprecate so easily aren’t necessarily the one-dimensional caricatures of Eeeevvvuuulll you paint them to be.

Will tomorrow be a Good Friday or just the seque to yet another weekend?

You are one vicious, bloodthirsty, ignorant, cunt. I had to say that. Jesus gave me permission to swear.

Time will tell. It’s time to pray. If we finally give Iran what’s coming to them, remember that you heard it here first.

Forgive me for raining on your masturbation fantasy, but exactly how does Iran have flaming death ‘coming to them’? Have they attacked the US recently? Hmm, no, I don’t think they have. Have they attacked anyone else in the last 20-odd years? Hmmm, no, I don’t believe they have.

In fact, Iran as a nation has kept itself pretty much to itself for a very long time now, despite much provocation from the US. And by ‘provocation’, I mean the overthrow of their government and the installation of a brutal dictator, the shooting down of a civilian airliner, the constant threats and baseless accusations regarding their nuclear programme, and, as they say on the ads, many many more.

If it doesn’t happen it’s time to send President Bush letters and emails of support. He knows what to do. It’s time we let him know that we’ve got his back.

If it does happen, friend, you can rest safe and warm in the knowledge that you, your retard friends, and your greedy, cold-blooded, stupid Prez, have very probably started World War III. Congratulations.

Knobbesticke.

 
 

Dear Sir,

The following issue can destroy ISLAM or ISRAEL; study it thoroughly to see if there is any truth to it.

READ THE FOLLOWING PASSAGES FROM THE BIBLE AS IT HAS IMPLICATIONS ON THE WAR AGAINST TERROR/ISLAM and the claim of Israel that god gave them the land.

If the child is an infant than the Judeo-Christian version becomes null and void and we are wasting our time and resources i.e. we could save trillions of dollars and create a more peaceful world rather than fighting against Islam the religion of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

The COVENANT with Abraham and his DESCENDANTS is central to JUDAISM/CHRISTIANITY/ISLAM.

Please note this is not a competition between faiths but an attempt to decipher fact from fiction.

Genesis 21:14 Contemporary English version se below link http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=GENESIS%2021;&version=46;
Early the next morning Abraham gave Hagar an animal skin full of water and some bread. Then he put the boy on her shoulder and sent them away.
GENESIS 16:16 And Hagar bore Abram a son; and Abram called the name of his son, whom Hagar bore, Ish’mael. Abram was eighty-six years old when Hagar bore Ish’mael to Abram.
GENESIS 21:5 Abraham was a hundred years old when his son Isaac was born to him.
At Genesis 22 Abraham had only 2 sons others came later.
The Quran mentions that it was Ishmael that was sacrificed hence the reference in genesis 22:2 your only son can only mean someone has substituted Ishmael names for Isaac!!
BY DOING SOME KINDERGARTEN ARITHMATIC USING ARABIC NUMBERS (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) NOT ROMAN NUMERALS (I, II, III,IV,V,VI,VII,VIII,IX,X) NB no concept of zero in roman numerals.
100 years old – 86 years old = 14 ADD 3 YEARS FOR ISSAC’S WEANING THAT WOULD MAKE ISHMAEL 17 YEARS OLD IN GENESIS 21:14-21
BUT IT IS A DESCRIPTION OF AN INFANT.
Carefully read several times the above passage and then tell me the mental picture you get between the mother child interactions what is the age of the child.
If the mental picture is that of a 17 year old child being carried on the shoulder of his mother, being physically placed in the bush, crying like a baby, mother having to give him water to drink, then the Islamic viewpoint is null and void.
Why is there no verbal communications between mother and (17 YEAR OLD) child?
GENESIS: 21:14 – 21 So Abraham rose early in the morning, and took bread and a skin of water, and gave it to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, along with the (17 YEAR OLD) child, and sent her away. And she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beer-Sheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she cast the (17 YEAR OLD) child under one of the bushes.
Then she went, and sat down over against him a good way off, about the distance of a bowshot; for she said,
“Let me not look upon the death of the (17 YEAR OLD) child.� And as she sat over against him, the (17 YEAR OLD) child lifted up his voice and wept. And God heard the voice of the (17 YEAR OLD) lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven, and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar?
Fear not; for God has heard the voice of the (17 YEAR OLD) lad where he is. Arise, lift up the (17 YEAR OLD) lad, and hold him fast with your hand; for I will make him a great nation.� Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the skin with water, and gave the (17 YEAR OLD) lad a drink.
And God was with the (17 YEAR OLD) lad, and he grew up; he lived in the wilderness, and became an expert with the bow. He lived in the wilderness of Paran; and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
The age of Ishmael at this stage is crucial to the Abrahamic faiths. If he is 17 than the JUDEO/CHRISTIAN point of view about the Abrahamic covenant is correct.
This has devastating theological consequences of unimaginable proportions.
This makes the conflict between Ishmael and Isaac and their descendants a work of fiction.
I would strongly suggest it is clear cut case of racial discrimination and nothing to do with god almighty. The scribes have deliberately tried to make Isaac the only son and legitimate heir to the throne of Abraham??
Please can you rationally explain this anomaly?
I have asked many persons including my nephews and nieces – unbiased minds with no religious backgrounds but with reasonable command of the English language about this passage and they all agree that the child in the passage is an infant.
AS THE DESCRIPTION OF ISHMAEL IN GENESIS 21:14-21 IS THAT OF AN INFANT IT CAN BE ASSUMED SOMEONE HAS MOVED THIS PASSAGE FROM AN EARLIER PART OF SCRIPTURE!!! AND HAVE GOT THERE KNICKERS IN A TWIST.
For background info on the future religion of mankind see the following websites:
http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/Muhammad_Bible.HTM (MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE) http://bible.islamicweb.com/ http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-galloway_060806,00.html http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=EvilGoblin George Galloway media appearances http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696 (ISRAELI HOLOCAUST AND WAR CRIMES) http://ifamericansknew.com/ http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MB_BQS/default.htm (BIBLE, QURAN and SCIENCE) http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ ANTI-WAR http://www.harunyahya.com/ (EVOLUTION DECEIPT) http://www.barnabas.net/ http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm http://www.islamicity.com/ http://www.islamonline.net/english/index.shtml http://www.islamalways.com/

HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 37 verses 101 – 122
101. So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear.
102. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: “O my son! I see in vision that I offer thee in sacrifice: Now see what is thy view!� (The son) said: “O my father! Do as thou art commanded: thou will find me, if Allah so wills one practising Patience and Constancy!�
103. So when they had both submitted their wills (to Allah., and he had laid him prostrate on his forehead (for sacrifice),
104. We called out to him “O Abraham!
105. “Thou hast already fulfilled the vision!â€? – thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
106. For this was obviously a trial-
107. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice:
108. And We left (this blessing) for him among generations (to come) in later times:
109. “Peace and salutation to Abraham!�
110. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
111. For he was one of our believing Servants.
112. And We gave him the good news of Isaac – a prophet,- one of the Righteous.
113. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong, to their own souls.
114. Again (of old) We bestowed Our favour on Moses and Aaron,
115. And We delivered them and their people from (their) Great Calamity;
116. And We helped them, so they overcame (their troubles);
117. And We gave them the Book which helps to make things clear;
118. And We guided them to the Straight Way.
119. And We left (this blessing) for them among generations (to come) in later times:
120. “Peace and salutation to Moses and Aaron!�
121. Thus indeed do We reward those who do right.
122. For they were two of our believing Servants.

ISHMAEL IS THE FIRST BORN AND GOOD NEWS OF ISSAC DOES NOT APPEAR UNTIL AFTER THE SACRIFICE?????
Therefore the claim that god gave the land to Israel is destroyed without the need of any WMD’s.
HADITH Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583: Narrated Ibn Abbas:
The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka’ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque.
During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward.
Ishmael’s mother followed him saying, “O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?� She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, “Has Allah ordered you to do so?� He said, “Yes.�
She said, “Then He will not neglect us,� and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka’ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers:
‘O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.’ (14.37) Ishmael’s mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had).
When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him (i.e. Ishmael) tossing in agony; She left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of Safa was the nearest mountain to her on that land.
She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from Safa and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached the Marwa mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody.
She repeated that (running between Safa and Marwa) seven times.�
The Prophet said, “This is the source of the tradition of the walking of people between them (i.e. Safa and Marwa). When she reached the Marwa (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, ‘O, (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?�
And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zam-zam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hand in this way, and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it.�
The Prophet added, “May Allah bestow Mercy on Ishmael’s mother! Had she let the Zam-zam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zam-zam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth.�
The Prophet further added, “Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, ‘Don’t be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allah which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allah never neglects His people.’
The House (i.e. Kaba) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kada’. They landed in the lower part of Mecca where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it.
They said, ‘This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.’
They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water).� The Prophet added, “Ishmael’s mother was sitting near the water.
They asked her, ‘Do you allow us to stay with you?� She replied, ‘Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.’ They agreed to that.�
The Prophet further said, “Ishmael’s mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there.
The child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up and learnt Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them.

 
Herr Doktor Bimler
 

I was just about to say — Psycheout, in future you might want to include the “/satire” flag after your comments. But then that last monstrous abomination of a comment appeared upthread, casting a mighty shadow over the distinction between satire and sincerity.

 
 

So ahmedinajad did you get those suits wholesale?

 
 

Please. To compare the mere frat-boy pranks, mischievous shenanigans, rowdy hijinx, exuberant horseplay, and impish monkeyshines our detainees enjoy to actual INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR endured by our kind of people at the hands of Islamo-barbarians is moral relativism in the extreme. Think of that. Behavior. Inappropriate. Could it be worse?

For their torment and suffering there is only one recourse: the Brit sailors must now be punished severely because they didn’t act like captured POWs in movies John Derbyshire has seen.

 
 

OMG! Those bastards. We should attack them immediately before they capture more people.

Truth is, Iran treated these people, even by their own accounts, pretty well. not so much for US captives.

Ain’t you glad to be American? Feeling safe abroad? Hahaha.

 
 

I’m glad you guys liked my Good Friday post. I hope someday to be featured on Sadly No’s front page. I know the blog I work on isn’t exactly first tier right now, but I hope it will be soon. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

 
 

But, but, there might have been a ticking time scone. It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

Post of the Day, Steve. That’s hilarious!

 
 

ahmedinajad : Duly noted.

 
 

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