We Like The Part About The Jew
Bryan at Hot Air is busy parsing the meaning of the term, ‘smeared,’ in order to help excuse himself from, you know, the consequences of his latest escapade as part of a crew of out-of-control, yet hilariously incompetent right-wing smear merchants:
When you hear that someone’s been “smeared,� what do you think has happened? Do you think
a) someone took something the person in question said entirely out of context and mischaracterized it; or
b) someone took something the person in question said and just quoted it, word for word?I could be wrong–what do I, a simple godbag, know?–but all along I’ve thought that a smear is more related to a) than b). Which is to say, that a smear is when you take someone’s words out of context and make those words mean something that the person never intended, or when you just accuse a person of doing or thinking a thing that they have never done or thought.
Wokay. Instead of joining one of those flagpole-balancing discussions about what words mean, here’s a poem by Hot Air’s Allahpundit, verbatim and unabridged:
Jews are evil, Hindus are snooty,
Christians stink worse than your father’s socks.
Buddhists are stupid and their robes look fruity.
These people must be smashed with rocks.Do not forget, when dispensing derision,
The Shinto and Taoist and Confucianist blocs.
There’s so many goddamned Asian religions.
All of them must be smashed with rocks.Then there’s the women, who stall insurrection
With their lips and their curves and their frilly Jew frocks.
You can’t wage jihad when you’ve got an erection.
These snakecharmers must be smashed with rocks.Homos and breeders, negros and whitey,
Fatties and Flockharts and bookworms and jocks:
Praise Allah, or your heads we’ll be goin’ upside-y.
All of you fucking people must be smashed with rocks.
News flash: As gamely anticipated (see below), Patterico tries to accuse us of not understanding satire:
Sadly, No! Publishes the Most Clueless Blog Post Ever Written (UPDATE: Make That Two!)
In his zeal to uncover alleged conservative hypocrisy, a blogger at a “humor� blog mistakes an old Allahpundit parody for a serious post. Hilarity ensues.
[…]
I predict Gavin will try to recover by claiming that he knew Allah’s post was a parody. But this interpretation reveals Gavin’s post to be utterly incoherent — unless he were truly trying to sell the ludicrous notion that Amanda Marcotte’s ravings on religion were nothing but parody and satire, as she claimed in her weak, mealy-mouthed non-apology apology.
You mean he isn’t really Allah, the Muslim deity?
http://missannieangel.blogspot.com/2006/11/boycott-cat-stevens-and-his-new-album.html
http://missannieangel.blogspot.com/2005/12/burn-your-cat-stevens-records.html
Is what wrote offensive?? I’d like your expert opinion, Gavin.
No, because you do it for the nookie annie.
hah! Bark Bark!
web.archive.org: the gift that keeps on giving!
I find the poem by a Gitmo prisoner the General shared somehow more effective than Allahpundit’s effort. No accounting for taste, I guess.
I love disconnecting my irony lobe and working myself into pearl-clutching outrage like a winger. But wait, it’s so two-way. Either you take him at his word, pretending not to notice his schtick, and you see it as offensive to a whole host of religions, or you go with his schtick, and it’s offensive to Musllims. This Allah is a boy who just wasn’t ready for the small-time.
So… according to poetry, fundamentalist Muslims are basically the exact same people as fundamentalist Christians.
Fair enough, I guess, but I fail to see the point. That followers of YHWH afre often mean to people for poorly thought out religious reasons? Anybody who stayed half awake through history class or bible study kind of knows that already.
Well, I am completely sick and tired of no one paying any respect to my religious beliefs.
All this fricking order in my life – all day, every day! Rules of grammar, driving laws, recipes with their so-called “helpul hints” that are just fascists attempts to enslave our tastebuds…..
Are you expecting this to make sense? Stop oppressing me. Watch out for hot dogs.
POEE.
you have totally smeared Allahpundit. Everyone knows that it is completely unfair to quote him verbatim and unabridged.
Hmmm, who was saying my teenage poetry they dug up from years ago sucked? Who couldn’t get the admittedly crude sarcasm in parts of said poetry? Who presented it as conclusive and forever proof that I was an “intellectual fraud”? Ooops, sorry this is about them doing their thing to someone else. Anyway…
“you go with his schtick, and it’s offensive to Musllims. “
Right. And that’s when he’s not saying what a laff-riot it would be if Ralph Nader was decapitated.
oh my. I’ll be saving that up for National Poetry Month.
Hey, haters. He rhymed ‘frocks’ with ‘rocks.’ are you some sort of WH Auden terrorist lovers?
And, of course, the only way you get it to scan is if you pronounce Asian “ay-SHEE-han”. Do it again, do it right, as the Swedes say.
upside-y?
man that was bad
though to lay off the catholics and other mainstream us religions for a minute, how do the wingers explain the hard-drives full of posts by LGF, jihad watch, etc, accusing all of islam being guilty of terrorism et al
You smear somebody when you spread them on a slice of toast.
“Godbags?” Was that Amanda’s or Melissa’s? And, does it have any relation to “cobags,” like a mutating virus, or did it spring, fully fledged, into being? Pinko? I suppose I should hike over to 3 Bulls and ask.
“Shari’a� For Allah Pundit
Wingnuts are evil, Republicans are snooty,
They all stink worse than your father’s socks.
Wingnuts are stupid and their butts go pooty.
These people must be slapped with cocks.
Do not forget, when giving confession,
The Bircher and Dittohead and Wingnut blocs.
There’s so many goddamned Wingnut obsessions.
All of them must be slapped with cocks.
Then there’s the women, who stall insurrection
With their lips and their curves and their frilly female frocks.
You can’t wage jihad when you’ve got an erection.
These snakecharmers must be slapped with cocks.
Homos and breeders, negroes and whitey,
Fatties and Flockharts and bookworms and jocks:
Praise Bush, or your heads we’ll be goin’ upside-y.
All of you fucking people must be slapped with cocks.
That was rather easy. I didn’t have to change much.
It’s actually a Twistyism that Amanda borrows from time to time. Maybe a definition of it would help Bryan discern the difference between a “smear” and quoting someone “unabridged,” because if he were really going to quote Amanda unabridged, he’d have included this:
But why be fair?
Can steve_e be the poet laureate of Sadly, No!?
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/?page_id=46
http://punkassblog.com/2006/06/25/you-might-be-a-godbag-if/
Can I?
Deep into the darkness peering
long I stood there, wondering,
fearing
Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortals
ever dared to dream before;
But the silence was unbroken
and the stillness gave no token
And the only word there spoken
was the whispered word
Lenore? This I whispered,
and an echo murmered back the word
“Lenore!” Merely this,
and nothing more.
Annie –
You’re a bit behind the times with your Cat Stevens outrage, dear. 10,000 Maniacs beat you to it by about 17 years, when they removed their version of “Peace Train” from later pressings of their “In My Tribe” album in response to Stevens’ support of the fatwa on Rushdie.
Do try to keep up.
When I was seventeen
I drank some very good beer
I drank some very good beer
I purchased With a fake ID
My name was Brian McGee
I stayed up listening to Queen
When I was seventeen
I should add that the above poem was written by Edgar Allen Poe. It just seemed appropriate that I quote him.
Jillian said,
February 9, 2007 at 12:12
Well, I am completely sick and tired of no one paying any respect to my religious beliefs.
All this fricking order in my life – all day, every day! Rules of grammar, driving laws, recipes with their so-called “helpul hintsâ€? that are just fascists attempts to enslave our tastebuds…..
Are you expecting this to make sense? Stop oppressing me. Watch out for hot dogs.
POEE.
Hail Eris! All Hail Discordia!
(Note: working for DHS has given me an incredibly deep understanding of the workings of chaos)
I am an adherent to the faith of Frisbeeterianism – the belief that when you die your soul goes up onto the roof and doesn’t ever come down.
“Patterico’s Pontifications Publishes the Most Clueless Blog Post Ever Written (UPDATE: Make That Three!)
In his zeal to uncover alleged liberal hypocrisy, a blogger at a “stupid� blog mistakes a parody of an old Allahpundit parody for a serious post. Hilarity ensues.
[…]
I predict Patterico will try to recover by claiming that he knew Gavin’s post was a parody of a parody. But this interpretation reveals Patterico’s post to be utterly incoherent — unless he were truly trying to sell the ludicrous notion that Allah Pundit’s ravings on religion were nothing but parody and satire, as he demonstrated in his weak, mealy-mouthed non-sensical poem.”
He’s the gift that keeps on giving.
I don’t know I cna see how someone like Patterico can dismiss the “song” but I’m not so clear on how Allahpundit’s vehemently anti-Christian post on the transubstation (cited below) isn’t just as bad if not worse than anything Amanda ever posted.
Wow. Patty’s post was inane even for Patty.
I liked the “Fatties and Flockharts…” turn of phrase. There may be some talent hidden away there.
And who is the putz who thinks that it is clever to be known as ‘Allah-pundit’? Sounds stupid enough to be Jesse Malkin.
Well you know what? Until Malkin or Bryan or the other Hot Airheads actually link to someone as murderously vile as Glenn “Instapundit” Reynolds, I don’t think you liebruls have a leg to stand on.
Oh, wait…
Patterico, Mario G. is looking for you…
ifthethunderdontgetya³²,
Patrick Frey (Patterico) is “SCARED” of what I have exposed about him, for BIG-TIME LEGAL REASONS Just for starters, HE’S A LIAR.
Mr. Frey will Blah, Blah, Blah this and that, but he won’t debate me about anything. He’s a CHICKEN………….One thing he says about me is that I am stalking him. Not True.
Well, when Patrick Frey get’s off of work tonight, maybe he will debate me here on Sadly No! but “DON’T” Hold your breath.
MarioGeorgeNitrini111
mariogeorgenitrini111
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uh i dunno what to say but:
1) Patterico must not read SN! enough, which I cant believe b/c it is teh bestest blog evah or
2) he is not playing with a full deck of cards – no one here would make a mistake like that except for analangel
3) when describing that poem as “parody” it needs to qualified with an adjective like venal, ugly, base, etc
i dont understand why anybody pays any attention to such crass people – we do it here for fun – but i shudder to think that there are people out there that take Patterico, Ace, CY, Allahpundit, Malkin, etc at face value. They are such unserious people and are particularly ignorant. shit what a way to start the day….
Yeah. If Patterico would schedule a formal debate with Mario, I’d totally provide the punch and pie.
Of course, Mario, I wouldn’t be so eager to debate Patterico if I were you. He seems far less concerned with what is actually true than he is with “winning” any given argument, and it doesn’t seem to take him too long to venture off into intellectually dishonest territory.
Not the best trait in a prosecuting attorney, I don’t imagine. At least not if you’re attached to the whole idea of “justice”.
Yea Marita,
You hit it RIGHT ON THE MONEY. Patterico is only concerned with winning.
Maybe he can try and beat me in a debate? We’ll see see. If he is not such a COWARDLY CHICKEN, He’ll debate me.
MarioGeorgeNitrini111
mariogeorgenitrini111
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It was a smear campaign simply because it was intended to make Amanda look bad. Sure, it really made Michelle look bad, but it’s still smear.
PaddyEff’s technique here is a good lesson on what it is to be a dishonest little dick. He quotes posts by one of the Edwards bloggers and points out how it doesn’t fit the ironic template of Allah’s little doggerel, and therefore he concludes that Gavin’s post isn’t relevant. But does he pick out that particular post, the one everyone’s read that does indeed match the template? Of course not; he picks out a dainty handful of straw, deposits it in a canvas sack, stands it up and calls it a rebuttal.
It is amazing that Michelle can get on Amanda for her posts when the Brown M&M herself wrote an entire book on how interning US citizens for their own good is sometimes necessary.
Pot, kettle, Malkin.
Glenn Greenwald has a nice summary.
The blogosphere fundamentally altered the arc of this story. All of the balancing information which made its way into the national press within a very short period of time was found by bloggers, amplified by other bloggers and by groups such as Media Matters, and that shaped the story — both how it was discussed and its ultimate outcome — in numerous ways. And it re-inforced the idea that the rotted network composed of the Michelle Malkins and Bill O’Reillys and Bill Donohues cannot drive media stories unilaterally anymore and cannot force major presidential candidates to capitulate to their demands.
Wingnuts, that pie on your face is the one you flung.
Wingnuts, that pie on your face is the one you flung.
That’s not pie.
It is amazing that Michelle can get on Amanda for her posts when the Brown M&M herself wrote an entire book on how interning US citizens for their own good is sometimes necessary.
You mean Michelle Malkin?
Anyway, the gist of the latest wingnut misfire is that nobody should ever hire anybody who’s hateful?
If I follow Patty correctly, the problem with Amanda is that she didn’t use satire. Apparently, you can say anything you want if you have a disclaimer that says, “WARNING: Satire ahead” on your blog.
For instance, one could write, “Patterico likes to diddle puppies while dressed up as Ann Coulter.” Normally, he might find that offensive and maybe even file a fancy pants defamation. But if I label it as satire or parody, we’re in the clear. And he can keep practicing his cross-dressing man-on-puppy fetish.
Okay okay, I’ll close the tag.
Fucker.
Note to Patterico:
As Eric Draven said to Tin Tin —
“Try Again. Try HARDER!”
mikey
“”Wingnuts, that pie on your face is the one you flung. “”
“That’s not pie. ”
Oh… it looked like chocolate …
Wow. Is it actually a requirement that you have to flunk an i.q. test before you can become a lib? I knew you guys were incredibly humorless, ignorant, and cynical, but I did’t realize you were also totally incapable of learning or employing logic. Face it, you guys lost this one. “Move on,” as one of your patron saints likes to say….
Who knew you could “flunk” an IQ test? Anyone? Hmmmm.
I am an adherent to the faith of Frisbeeterianism
Dude! I thought I was the only one!
When you hear that someone’s been “smeared,� what do you think has happened? Do you think
a) someone took something the person in question said entirely out of context and mischaracterized it; or
b) someone took something the person in question said and just quoted it, word for word?
Clearly, historically, a) is for conservatives and republicans,
b) is for liberals and democrats.
TheSwingTheMiss:
I’m not sure which game you were watching, but my scorecard reads: Amanda & Melissa remain employed, and Malkin & Preston, et al., still look like doofuses. Oh, OK, let’s call it a draw. We’re way up in standings anyway.
I see that the argument on the part of Patterico and his supporters is now something to the effect of:
Ha ha! You’re stupid!
So, well played TheManTheMyth. I’d hate to see TheReality if this is the best you have to offer.
Dictionaries are good things. I just posted the following over at Patterico’s blog:
Satire:
1.a. A work or composition in prose or verse which (usu. humorously) exposes prevailing vices or follies or ridicules an (esp. prominent) individual; a lampoon; a performance or broadcast of a similar nature…
1.b. An object, fact, or circumstance that brings ridicule on some person or thing.
2. A satirical person, a satirist.
3.a. The branch of literature etc. constituted by satires…
3.b. The use of sarcasm, irony, ridicule, etc., to expose vice or folly or to lampoon an individual.
Parody: 1. A prose, verse, or other artistic composition in which the characteristic themes and the style of a particular work, author, etc., are exagerrated or applied to an inappropriate subject, esp. for the purpose of ridicule…
Words mean things, Patterico.
You have been saying “satire� when you clearly mean “parody.�
That is all.
TheManTheMyth said,
February 9, 2007 at 20:34
Face it, you guys lost this one. “Move on,� as one of your patron saints likes to say….
Yes, in the manner that the Democratic party ‘lost’ the 2006 elections.
Yes, Amanda saying Godbag is clearly worse than Allahpundit putting on brownface and using those crazy jihadis as an excuse to make every racist, sexist, and otherwise biased joke his hateful little heart could think of.
If you’re gonna try humor, folks, be fuckin racist about it. It’ll get you the official Patterico seal of approval.
But this interpretation reveals Gavin’s post to be utterly incoherent
He does raise a good point. Only posting someone else’s post complete and unabridged means you have to think and follow a logical progression to figure out what you are trying to say. The practical upshoot of this is that people like Malkin and Paterco, etc. who are not able to think in logical progression will not understand what you are trying to say and said post will seem incoherent. (However, if you try to add interpretation, they you clearly are smearing someone.)
how have all these wingnuts missed that allah did the same thing amanda did? use the word “fuck”?
don’t they know that baby jebus gets mad at the godbags every time some one uses the word fuck.
Gavin, how do you not walk into walls?
Well, the godbags don’t use controceptive when they say fuck, so it’s alright.
Gavin, how do you not walk into walls?
He hires a conservative to do that for him.
Karol, this is Gary Ruppert. Gary, this is Karol.
Now play nicely.
Sadly,not Allah. I think he’s a lobbyist for the rock industry.
awesome.
NN has totally been pwning Patty and friends over there, btw. Example:
“but Stephen Colbert is not really a hateful right-winger. Hes actually a leftist. He just pretends to be a hateful right-winger.”
A hint: Stephen Colbert doesn’t pretend to be a hateful right-winger. He pretends to be an idiotic, ignorant, pompous and extremely good-natured right-winger. That’s actually the beauty of his act. You either never watched Colbert or didn’t put thought in these words.
[Indeed, I have hardly watched him at all. I meant hateful in the sense that lefties would find hateful someone who actually holds his positions. — P]
Comment by NN — 2/9/2007 @ 3:23 pm
I bolded Patty response. Double awesome.
Strangely enough, someone posted a linky to Reclusive Leftist’s post defining what a “godbag” is over at World O’Crap, which was odd because I hadn’t asked over there–nobody had! And, yes, as it turns out, only slightly different than a “cobag.”
Hey Marita,
on this post of Patterico’s:
Comment on Sadly, No! Publishes the Most Clueless Blog Post Ever …2 hours ago
Fascinating how “Marcotte offends Catholics� devolves into more tired blather
about Palestinians Arabs. Talk about wasted breath……
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Comment # 20, Is this someone commenting and Patterico answering he/she, and referring to me?
Thanks,
MarioGeorgeNitrini111
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“your heads we’ll be goin’ upside-y.”?
That’s the lamest shit ever in the history of lame lameness. When you have to use nonsense words to create a rhyme, you’re already fucked. Unless you’re Lewis Carroll, which Allahpundit (sic) clearly is not. Assbiter.
Not even I try to be Lewis Carroll.