Wingnut Arrested In Fake Anthrax Terror Scheme
In a synchronic congruity of a nature seemingly designed to test the faith of the most devout of atheists, this piece of business, from about 4PM yesterday…
Above: debut of new FOX attack unit Greg Gutfeld
…Was swiftly consummated with this one, from about 10:30:
A California man suspected of mailing threatening letters containing a suspicious white powder to celebrities and U.S. politicians has been arrested and could face federal charges on Monday, the FBI said.
Investigators identified Chad Castagana, 39, of Woodland Hills, California, as the person suspected of sending more than a dozen threatening letters to media outlets and the homes of public figures in various cities, the FBI said in a statement on Sunday evening.
According to a federal search warrant, among those who received threatening letters were Jon Stewart of Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show;” talk show host David Letterman; Keith Olbermann of MSNBC; Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, who is set to become Speaker of the House of Representatives, and Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, both Democrats.
Here’s the (ahem) domestic terror suspect’s Free Republic bio:
I am a lifelong Conservative Republican .
I have an Associates Degree in the Science of Electronics .
Ann Coulter is a Goddess and I worship Laura Ingraham and Michele Malkin .
English is the langauge of the United States of America- – our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution are written in the langauge that expresses our civilized freedoms .
Spanish is the language of Banana Republics, beyond that it belongs in a European country.
UPDATE: Golly gee, look at this (‘Marc Costanzo‘ is the suspect’s Freeper alias):
FNC Breaking – Suspicious White Powder Found in Clinton’s Harlem Office -nothing follows
Posted by marc costanzo to Politics4Fun
On News/Activism 10/30/2006 7:34:19 AM PST · 230 of 233>>Not to make light of the situation, but drama queen Olbermann put on quite a production even after he’d been told the powder was harmless and checked out by doctors and told he was fine. He demanded that he be rushed to the hospital for more tests. I wouldn’t be even remotely surprised if he mailed it to himself. I’ve never seen someone more desperate for attention and approval.<< I heard from a liberal blog that Olbermann was a prima donna at the hospital, giving the medical staff and the cops a hard time . Keith is a whiny little b@tch ! Accepting that, I do not believe he sent it to himself . But that is just guess work .
DOUBLE UPDATE: Let’s check in with our doyenne of domestic terror hysteria, Michelle Malkin, seeing as she’s ‘worshipped’ by a suspect now in custody. I think we know what we’re going to find.
The demise of liberal talk radio…
By Michelle Malkin · November 13, 2006 12:32 PM
Uh-huh.
ADDITIONAL AS-THE-WORLD-TURNS UPDATE: Let’s see if there’s anything especially interesting at Free Republic today.
Liberals are a Terrorists
Posted on 11/13/2006 8:01:44 AM PST by MarianlandNumber of killed unborn Americans by Liberals is much bigger then number of American soldiers killed in all wars. That is why Liberals are a Terrorists. They are cruel, without mercy and any human or ethical values. Conservative Americans made big mistake that they allowed these evil demons to control US government. They did not come to resolve any problems, but they came to create more problems because they are a terrorists. Only blood can satisfy them because these are a demons with unclean spirits and they will punish all American Patriots for making their best efforts to protect this country from terrorism.
No, nothing especially interesting today.
The WingNet is eventually going to have to say something about this little anthrax-terror contretemps. The sound of faint crickets and breeze-tossed tumbleweeds has so far been deafening.
DeVry Institute turned him crazy! And shopping at Banana Republic!
Terrorist=conservative.
Whod’ve thunk it?
So, does he get to go to Gitmo or at least get his civil liberties taken away like Jose Padilla?
Anne, Laura, and Michelle would turn anyone crazy.
The letters were sent to celebrities including Columbia Broadcasting System’s well-known anchor, David Letterman, Senator Charles Schumer and Democratic congressional leader Nancy Pelosi.
Geeze, I wonder where he got the idea to attack these people?
How long do you think it wil be before FOX News picks up on the Freeper angle?
Yeah, that would be time on a geologic scale…
Fox logic-
1. Subject A was a good Conservative Blog reader.
2. Subject A engaged in terrorist activity, or mock-terrorist activity.
3. There are lib’ral blogs spewing the terrorists’ messages.
4. The actions of Subject A conclusively prove that the liberal blogoshere is responsible for terrorism. No one is safe.
Electronics is a “science?”
I thought it was a technology.
Thank God someones here to protect the English langauge.
Ahh the true face of conservatism revealed.
[…] So, who is Chad Castagana? I am a lifelong Conservative Republican . […]
Speaking of terrorism, James Wolcott (whose fascination with teh shrieking harpy may even exceed Sadly, No!’s) has caught pammy advocating the eradication of Germany.
What am I missing? One guy’s name is Castagana, the other’s is Costanzo.
Lord help me, I couldn’t stop myself from spelunking:
Rob G:
“Marc Costanzo” is a psuedonym.
Sven, 11/13 19:23:
Looks like somebody just couldn’t help posting confessions all over the Internets, doesn’t it?
I note that our boy really likes the word “demagogue”–but like Inigo Montoya in “The Princess Bride,” I don’t think it means what he thinks it means.
Check out Chad Castagana’s letter to the editor of Science Fiction Weekly (scroll down to “SF has no place for PC”). Here’s the last paragraph:
Como dicen en el blogosferio, léetelo todo.
Maybe he can pull a Hogan’s Heroes in prison:
http://www.zen22142.zen.co.uk/Circuits/rf/chad484.htm
The future is now
The future is fair
You may already have won
You may already be there
Hello! We’re glad you made it!
Welcome to…SAN QUENTIN!
Seriously, the law enforcement folks must be pleased that the wingnuts are leaving an easily-traceable trail via Google cache. All they need to do on all subsequent crimes is scan the kooks’ message boards.
Well, there goes that $5 I had on him rolling with the LGF posse…
“The future is not the current events of our world thrown into outer space. The future is not with the Liberals, not with the Multiculturalists (both hate America), and it is certainly not to be found in Canada! The future is not written, the future is unformed.”
So basiclly he’s saying that we can stop Skynet from destroying humanity. Didn’t he watchTerminator 3?
What? Does he think the future won’t happen in Canada? Here I always thought that the future was where we’d all spend the rest of our lives – in the future!
Well, there goes that $5 I had on him rolling with the LGF posse…
Don’t pay out quite yet.
Non-slanted Sven.
In the future, will italics tags close themselves?
… As an aspiring writer – completely ignoring his political repugnance and honest-to-goodness domestic terrorism – I find his stance on Sci-Fi completely and utterly moronic.
He does in fact realize that ‘the pen is mightier than the sword’ – because the pen can sway how the sword is used (or not) right?
I could start quoting from my lit books…
Yeah, he done bad things – but his ignorance of literary theory is just criminal. /wry
“EvilDrPuma said,
November 13, 2006 at 19:24
Rob G:
“Marc Costanzoâ€? is a psuedonym.”
How do you know? I’m confused how it was figured out that the guy who was arrested was Costanzo. Of course, I’m not surprised at all but I need a little more evidence (or maybe I’m not reading it right or missed something)
Oh, good thing you closed that wry tag, JJohnson. Otherwise this thread could have gotten really out of hand. Italics tags are bad enough…
Can’t wait to see what Olbermann has to say about this tonight.
His Freeper alias was Marc Costanza: his alias in the pen will be “Sweet Cheeks.”
Thank God someones here to protect the English langauge.
But they didn’t have spell-check during the time the Declaration and our Constitution were written, so why should he use it??
Here is another beauty from the reich-wing terrorist:
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue279/letters.html#pc
lawstudent: The original link that Gavin had in the first paragraph (the one that now goes to a Reuters story) was to a blog post that explained the story and also how they had figured out his Free Republic identity. If someone would be kind enough to re-post that link, I think it would probably clarify. Sorry I don’t have time to hunt it down, I have a thesis deadline looming.
More at my URL.
How do you know? I’m confused how it was figured out that the guy who was arrested was Costanzo.
I re-added the link.
(Sorry to play around with the post so much, but I kinda do that until posts reach a finished-state…)
The wingnuts over at:
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/11/arrest_in_ko_te.html
are still trying to say that Olbermann somehow did this to himself for publicity.
This, on top of last week, is just too much fun. Maybe it’s a sign of the apocalypse when the conservatives start self-destructing?
So, yet again, America’s home-bred domestic terrorists are right-wing crazies. I can’t even remember the last time some on the left-wing of this country did something as nutbar as this… Manson, maybe?
A DKos commenter used google to search for similar writings to Chad Castagana. Here is the key comment.
Has anybody here ever read “The Iron Dream” by Norman Spinrad?
Evidence of his identity at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364×2701099#2703883
I guess if you’re a white supremacist, you might consider O’Reilly “liberal”…
Chad Castagana? Marc Costanzo? I’ve got a sinking feeling that Art Vandelay is the architect of this entire affair.
Oh please, Manson was a right-wing racist, don’t try and hang him on the left.
My guess for last american leftist terrorists would be The Weather Underground.
I’m not sure why my link isn’t working, but at Democratic Underground, look for the thread “Man arrested in fake anthrax attacks” for evidence of his identity.
Eric J,
The “x” in the link is non-ascii. It URL encodes to a wide character % C3 % 97
“Ann Coulter is a Goddess and I worship Laura Ingraham and Michele Malkin.”
Going for the insanity plea I see — good luck with that.
The “x� in the link is non-ascii. It URL encodes to a wide character % C3 % 97
Works in Firefox here, but how can I fix it?
Any else one notice that the Freeper website seems to be down?
It worked in I.E.Explorer 6.0, Gavin. Of course, no one uses that anymore, unless they’re psycho.
my guess is he’s gay….the angry ones always seem to be these days 🙂
I’m Thinking maybe the S.L.A. was the last.
Nah. The EarthFirsters and ALF are still in the game…
mikey
I can’t even remember the last time some on the left-wing of this country did something as nutbar as this… Manson, maybe?
I certainly wouldn’t consider Charles Manson to be “left-wing.” He admired Hitler and wanted to start a race war, after all. On the other hand, he probably wouldn’t fit easily into the “right,” either. Crazies like him are off on their own tangent.
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says fool me once (pause), shame on….. (long, long pause) shame on you. (pause, then rapidly) … and fool me we can’t get fooled again.”
True, EarthFirsters and ALF are still active. And didn’t they cross the ‘nonviolent’ line that they had set and get somebody killed in a fire not too long ago?
Nah. The EarthFirsters and ALF are still in the game…
Well, they’re not all that terrifying, really. I mean, if you transferred ALF’s methods to Palestine, for instance, you’d have the IDF running around trying to catch de-caged hamsters.
You know he’s crazy is he likes manorectic Ann “I have an Adam’s Apple but I’m a woman” Coulter. And Michelle Malkin? Well that’s beastiality.
Actually, Gavin, I think that’s kind of telling. Folks on the American left can’t really get behind real terrorism, even when they try…
mikey
Freerepublic.com shows marccostanzo associated with email address Zopix2@yahoo.com
Google shows zopix2 associated with email alias maldarrin, e.g. Maldarrin@aol.com (Jeff Costigan). Interesting similarity between Costigan and reported suspect name Castagana.
IMDB.com shows a maldarrin (http://www.imdb.com/user/ur3527605/comments) that likes to review movies and thinks “Nacho Libre” is “Definitely a film for those who hold that loudmouth Jon Stewart is something other than a tacky, banal, second-rate comedienne”. He apparently likes horror movies with eye candy.
“Jeff Costigan” has posted comments on sites like http://hugoboy.typepad.com/hugo_schwyzer/2005/08/amanda_linked_t.html, claiming that Malkin, Laura Ingraham, and Ann Coulter “CHAMPION WOMANHOOD AND ALL WOMANLY VIRTUES”
ALF is only a threat to cats.
What?
After looking on the freeper website for any news on this subject (which either didn’t exist or is buried in BS) I decided to create a freeper account (which after doing so I need a hydrochloric acid shower to remove this filthy feeling) and post the news and a small comment of my own.
After I’m all finished, I click ‘post’ and the website comes back and says
“Thank you for your contribution. Your article has been submitted for review.
Return to forum.”
WTF?!?! submitted for review??? What is this place? Nazi Germany? I regularly post on a different forum and there is no “submitted for review” baloney there. Speak your mind, reap the consequences.
I wonder if my comment will make it? I honestly doubt it now. Thats too bad… Another potential blow to the freedom of speech.
Freeper=Terrorist
Thank you. I needed a laugh today. 🙂
It’s interesting that he used the term “Banana Republics” since that term came from the good ol’ USA overthrowing countries that got in the way of American-owned businesses. Basically, we created banana republics, they’re our fault. Maybe he was thinking of the store.
A Google search of this guy brings up many posts on geeky sci-fi pages. This loser probably lived in his mom’s basement, a’la Rupert Pupkin from “King of Comedy”.
INCONCEIVABLE!
[quote]Check out Chad Castagana’s letter to the editor of Science Fiction Weekly (scroll down to “SF has no place for PC�). [/quote]
I read the letter. What a maroon. Sci Fi is just a means to report on our current condition. It’s a setting to explore our humanity. The multiculturalism he complains about is often part of the crisis in SF.
Plus Lexx was horrible. Trying to be off the wall & edgy but just dull & pointless. Though I troubling telling if he liked Lexx and was sad that it got shitcanned.
I are a terrorists.
As far as the ALF goes, folks using that appellation claimed responsibility for the torching of four vehicles belonging to a furrier company in my town a few years ago.
this guy sounds like a real winner. how fast do you think he will find a boyfriend in prison? maybe find a rush or hannity look a like?
What makes you think he’ll go to prison? After all, it was just a prank. And he’s one of the good guys. C’mon.
So I guess republicans can stop all that “there hasn’t been any terrorist attacks since 9/11 thanks to Bush”. But anthrax doesn’t count does it.
It didn’t take long for Republicans from the 101st Keyboard Brigade, to come out in support of Terrorism on this one.
Once again, they demonstrate that a crime is acceptable, if its one of their own committing it.
Republicans For Terrorism Unite!
I can’t beilieve that geek spent all his time on sci-fi websites and discussion boards. What a geek! If I had the chance, I’d send my Level 30 Half-Troll Druid Priestess (who is quite buxom, I might add) to cut off his head with her Vorpal Sword. Roll double zeros against that, you weenie!
I can’t believe Patterico hasn’t shown up complaining that you aren’t being fair to conservative bloggers! I guess he really has moved on from his S,N! addiction.
So I guess republicans can stop all that “there hasn’t been any terrorist attacks since 9/11 thanks to Bush�. But anthrax doesn’t count does it.
No, apparently it doesn’t. One time I brought up the anthrax attacks that happened just after 9/11, and you’d think I had just made it up to make right wing people that say that look bad. Like straight up denial that counted and everything.
because they are a terrorists. Only blood can satisfy them because these are a demons with unclean spirits and they will punish all American Patriots for making their best efforts to protect this country from terrorism.
OOO! Kewl! I’m a demon with an unclean spirit. Do I get to pick which American Patriots I get to punish? Pleeeeeese?
Oh, but wait. I’ve been a devote reader of fantasy and science fiction for more than 40 years. Does this mean my post is disallowed? Or just that I don’t get to be a demon. (For the irony impaired among you, CUT IT OUT. I bet there are right wing nutjobs who like to drink scotch too.)
MKK
I don’t know I’m guessing the right would consider Ted K. (don’t feel like googling it) a leftie, and he does exemplify some of the more extreme ideals of the enviromentilist movemnt but that said he’s really more of an Anrachist/luddite.
Socraticsilence,
Ted K. was about as outspoken as one can be against “the left”:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future
Basically he calls “the left” self-hating mental cripples with low self esteem.
Dangling Chad seems to have a little soft-core porn habit, as well, and really seems to like the rape scene in Hollow Man. There’s a whole pathology there that is pretty ugly.
Also, the email addy he gives is ccc5207@aol.com. Start googling!
I will give a million dollars if anyone links this to Ruppert.
Sam means Ted Kaczynski: A true left wing hater. His Unabomber manifesto spent pages bashing liberals. History is loaded with Right Wing Terrorists- Atlanta Olympics bomber Eric Rudolph, Oklahoma City bombers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, abortion clinic snipers. You name it, the list goes on and on.
Abortions for some, delicious amibigous white powders for others.
It’s not too hard to figure that the real antharax sent after 9/11 was sent by some kind of right winger, because they went to the trouble to send it to all left wing targets.
That’s just what they’d like you to think . . .
I assume this guy went to the trouble of spelling Kazxccinski right.
OT, my clock and date are right, so how come the last comment says November 14 1:57 a.m.?? Am I really stupid and just learning that S,N originates from Beirut or Cairo or Istanbul?
Hey, I think you missed this:
—————————————–
From:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1727261/posts?q=1&&page=201
To: mystery-ak
>>Hasn’t this happened before at his Harlem office?……it’s probably his drug dealer.
The rest should read:
Yes it did, but I heard it was a prank Anthrax letter, then it was a harmless powder .
A couple of weeks ago, someone sent the Washington Post such a hoax !
Last September, Keith Olbermann got a threatening letter in his mail which spewed out white powder, Olbermann freaked out :-0
A few days ago someone mailed the Los Angeles Times a letter with powder, which turned out to be a food preservative – – yeah real deadly
That Monosodium Glutamate will kill you every time 🙂
215 posted on 10/28/2006 10:10:28 AM PDT by marc costanzo (Name your poison :-))
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I wonder if the events (in the two comments) above were known in such detail at the time of the posting. It would make that posting evidence – no?
“SplendidOne said,
What makes you think he’ll go to prison? After all, it was just a prank. And he’s one of the good guys. C’mon. ”
Illegal is illegal. Period.
I can’t believe Patterico hasn’t shown up complaining that you aren’t being fair to conservative bloggers! I guess he really has moved on from his S,N! addiction.
Careful, Kathleen! If the name Patterico appears three times in a comment thread, then Patterico will appear!
Oh noes! What have I done?!?
[…] [Sadly No has the scoop on this Castagana. He’s a Freeper! And he and his buddies call ME a terrorist.—Caro] […]
Wow – I read this knob’s SF letter. He needs a serious whack from the clue-by-four! Very much an example of the semi-intelligentsia that can crop up in sci-fi and fantasy.
I could shred his *ahem* “thoughts” line by line, but I’ll settle for pointing out that people who use the “I hate anything politically correct” line usually can’t come up with any other reason for being assholes.
Example:
“You’re not allowed to throw lit matches on homeless people.”
“Stop being so ‘politically correct’, you pussy!”
Marita, were you referring to Patterico, the hypocritical, lying asshat? Or some other pouting, pontificating, putrid Patterico?
Those pussies. If Chad had opened an envelope containing a cloud of white powder and a note informing him it was anthrax, I’m sure he’d simply have given a manly and derisive laugh and then calmly sprinkle it on his Cheerios.
Lady Nancy Astor: “Winston, if you were my husband, I’d give you poison.”
Winston Churchill: “Nancy, if I were your husband, I’d drink it.”
This reminds me of the police that committed robberies to run up crime stats to show they were necessary for the protection of the public.
If waving a toy gun in traffic is a crime then mailing fake toxins qualifies. Intent to do harm.
This is no ha-ha this is criminal intent to disrupt and disturb.
There are just as many left wing psychos as there are righties. There is no correlation between political affiliation and sanity.
This is almost too good to be true. Another bona fide republican asshole bites the fucking dust. I hope he gets life!
I love the part about the banana republics. I am a mexican and I truly find bananas delicious.
[…] Yes, there are plenty of wingnuts on the right. Anthrax hoaxing however is an unusual hobby for them (most stick to blogging.) […]
“So, yet again, America’s home-bred domestic terrorists are right-wing crazies. I can’t even remember the last time some on the left-wing of this country did something as nutbar as this… Manson, maybe?”
The Weather Underground, et al. You guys are probably far too young to remember the Sixties and Seventies when the nation was ripe with left wing loony criminals, but I do cause I helped track some of them down.
I am conservative myself, but this man was simply using his political affiliation as a cover excuse for ideological criminal activity.
News Hound is right, South and Central America is full of left wing death squads. Iraq full of right wing terrorists/death squads. And you can always go so far left that you end up right, and so far right that you end up left. Hitler went so far left he became in many ways indistinguishable from Stalin, and the reverse was true as well.
I’m not familiar with this guy, but I’ll be interested to read some of his prior blog entries and investigate his writings, as I’m sure there were clues to his future behavior (assuming he is indeed the proper, or only suspect) in his prior posts.
I would appreciate any more links to his writings. I could investigate through Google and Copernic, but judging from some of your comments, I assume many of you are already familiar with his posting habits and where his writings may be located.
I’ve only just discovered this story (one reason I like blog news, you can intercept news ignored or discarded elsewhere, and even if it is often inaccurate, it can at least lead you in the right direction) but I’m interested, did he have an individual blog or blogs, or did he just post at other sites?
In my opinion the real problem with people like this, left or right, is that modern people take politics far too seriously, as if it were a religion. If their side suffers a set back, loses an election, or see their plan or agenda temporarily spoiled or thrown for a loss they think the entire world is about to collapse. If they lose in Florida it must be rigged and a right wing cabal, if they lose the Senate then it must be the work of a left wing media conspiracy. This is not to say conspiracies don’t exist from time to time, it is merely to say everything is not a conspiracy. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, and that’s life. Happens to everyone and you don’t have to be ten years old over it.
Modern people, right and left, should realize that there is far more to life than politics, and that politics is a game for the long haul. The world doesn’t collapse because you fail or lose an election, or because your pet policy gets sidetracked, you just adjust tactics. tomorrow is another day.
And politics is not a game in which you seek to impeach your opponent because you disagree with them, think them the Devil, evil, twisted, and God knows you certainly don’t set out to kill your political opponent, or even threaten such a thing. That’s juvenile and stupid.
Personally I’ll follow this story with great interest and hope they tap all of the right suspects, assuming he did not operate alone, and hope the correct suspect is charged with domestic terrorism to set an example. Politics is not an excuse for people in ELF to commit arson (leftists) or an excuse to commit threats of terrorism.
Otherwise I think that modern people should take their politics with far more reason and far less fanaticism. Fanaticism in one area of life only generally leads to fanaticism in other areas of life and pretty soon you end up doing something very stupid, like spending thirty years on ice for mailing sugar through the mail.
It just doesn’t sound like a good investment of time to me.
Let’s not forget that the original antrax terrorist also targeted democrats and liberals.
So does this make him a Banana Republican?
[…] Who would have thought that a right wing conservative would be involved in terrorist activities? Best part: Google the guy’s name and find out about his struggles with the left-wing radicals destroying the science fiction genre. […]
“Modern people, right and left, should realize that there is far more to life than politics”
650,000 Iraqis would probably take issue with that statement.
If they weren’t dead, of course.
You can believe there’s “more to life than politics” because the guns aren’t pointed at you. You have the privilege of mocking and deriding strong political sentiment because in the end, you’ve got yours.
Politics is taken too seriously, like a religion? If only the health, safety, and freedom of six billion people were taken so seriously by the average American as his Close Personal Relationship with his Savior Baby Jesus.
Enjoy your complacency, pal. The slaves are getting tired of carrying the litter, and we’re all candidates to go against the wall.
Maybe it’s a sign of the apocalypse when the conservatives start self-destructing?
Or a sign of the Enlightenment?
[…] More “Where’s Malkin:” […]
“Enjoy your complacency, pal. The slaves are getting tired of carrying the litter, and we’re all candidates to go against the wall.”
Kid, I’ve seen hundreds of people killed.
And I’ve seen thousands of people enslaved.
I’m willing to bet you’re no slave to anyone, never have been, and the worst danger you’ve ever faced is razor stubble and college campus hazing (assuming you’re that old).
I, on the other hand knew a man who was machete to death in Rwanda, because nobody did anything about it. He wasn’t even Rwandan and didn’t even know why he had been stopped. Though that didn’t stop a bunch of Rwandans enjoying the same type of butchery either.,
I agree with the Iraq war (still got buddies there and in Afghanistan) and maybe you missed the part about how many Saddam killed quite a few others in Kuwait and Iran, quite a few Kurds, and even a few of his own people.
We’re not the ones killing civilians in Iraq by the busload, the terrorists are.
I’ve seen my share of slaughter, and I’m willing to bet the only real “up against the wall” you’ve ever done is voiding your bladder after a party.
Don’t confuse politics with war kid.
War goes on everywhere and all the time, in Columbia, in Rwanda, in Darfur, in Baghdad, in the Philippines, in Kabul, in Kenya, in Malaysia, in Pakistan, in India, all over, regardless of whether we’re in it or not.
The difference is when we’re in it we’re out to free people, not blow them up with IEDs, or enslave them.
I don’t expect you to understand, and I don’t expect you’ve ever really seen someone killed by tyranny, murder, crime, because it’s fun to the person doing the killing and so forth, but let’s get one thing straight and factual about what you said: I’m not your pal, I don’t even know you. I have pals, many of them having gone through very dangerous things with me, over long periods of time. My pals have earned my respect and friendship, I’m not your pal (not saying I couldn’t be, but I’m not), and I imagine given your response you don’t want to be mine. But that’s not my political opinion, it is my personal one, it is a personality matter, not a party matter. I have friends, some stationed overseas, who sat this last election out, because they were upset with the Republicans in congress. Some who voted Democrat. I’m not bothered by that at all, I don’t think less of them at all, and in some cases their arguments to me were so good I agreed with them though I didn’t follow the same course. The election did not reshape the world (the same problems of North Korea, illegal immigration, Iran, Iraq, the economy, are gonna be there for the Democrats to now solve) and it sure didn’t change my friendships or any other aspect of my life. They are still my pals and buddies cause they earned that respect and I have no doubt what kind of men they are. That’s not political, that’s manhood. Real men are like that, they don’t narrow every problem in life down to a political equation. And they don’t arrange their friendships or what they are willing to risk in life down to a party affiliation. Modern men have made gods out of their political opinions and reduced everything far more important in life to party ideology.
So I don’t agree with you. And I’m not gonna agree with you.
A man’s politics are a part of him, but if all he has is his politics then that is an awfully shallow little man.
But I’m also willing to bet dollars to doughnuts the only real killing you’ve ever seen has been on video and computer games. And killing is far more than just a political and a virtual game. Yes, you go ahead and ask the Iraqis who are dead, and ask all of those killed by insurgents and terrorists how much fun they had getting there. When you have a problem, blame the real culprit.
See, you’re confusing the definition of ignorance and naiveté with complacency.
Complacency is when you see a problem and never do anything about it.
Naiveté when you think the problem doesn’t really exist, until you find out by real, personal experience.
Ignorance is when you ignore the real problem because it’s more comfortable to do that.
None of that kind of confusion is political, it’s all individual.
Now if you want to respond again that’s fine by me.
But I’m not gonna agree with you, or any other kid who thinks life = politics.
I don’t buy the equation, and you can’t prove the theorem.
And you’re never gonna be able to.
Well one thing is clear. Because he worships conservatives, conservatives are therefore terrorists. As sadly no regulars ‘no’, such generalizations are primo for everyone except, of course, muslims. No matter how many of them send ACTUAL anthrax through the mail or kill people with planes, don’t generalize about them.
Hey, Jack, are you aware this is a site that lampoons right-wing commentators? Your discussion of people who “take politics far too seriously” pretty much mirrors the folks Gavin et al are constantly making fun of.
But I’m also willing to bet dollars to doughnuts the only real killing you’ve ever seen has been on video and computer games.
That’s not true for everyone here. Go catch Mikey in one of the threads above.
[…] A review of his posts at your old blog, the Free Republic, and other sites reveal him to be a man who is desperately seeking to fulfill his heterosexual destiny. […]
[…] Sadly No considers the gap between right-wing online rhetoric equating liberalism and terror, and reality. […]
Dear Jack. Your post was, shall we say, a little unusual for a Sadly, No reader, but nevertheless interesting. I am neither a kid nor underexposed to tyranny, torture and murder.I lived and fought through apartheid, Jack, so let’s just say I know where you’re coming from re real suffering.
Having established my “credentials”, I hope to your satisfaction, Jack, May I say that I feel the dichotomy between life and politics is not quite as wide as you seem to think. Apartheid was a political series of decisions, the decision to fight it was a political one and the struggle itself was intensely political. I agree that sometimes the “kids” don’t seem to realise the consequences of political action – see, for example, all those Rah Rah War – Bomb everyone types on rightwing blogs – but I think having ideals and finding how to put them into practice is an essential in the maturing of a citizen. Wouldn’t you agree?
Suez in SAfrica
The left: Dr Tiller the Baby Killer
ALF Killing people via fire
Democrats-allowing more soldiers in Iraq to die while they
do a slow cut and run
The Right sending fake anthrax to idiots
I see the moral equivalence.
I really do not appreciate the extreme’s in this country and I think that you need only look at the responses here to see some of the insanity. I will include the above as reference for the bs spouted by both extreme sides. Until the middle speaks up it will be the far-right and far-left that hold the rest of the country hostage.
I guess God should be held accountable for all the miscarriages he has caused throughout the ages. After all, when my wife had bother of her miscarriages, everyone said that it was God’s will.
Hey Jack: I love your patriotizm but your vision is clouded. I agree with suezboo, apartheld was horrendous and our government supported it (see reagan). Every war covers up the real purpose. Iraq was about oil and our government has stated so. So, if it was about oil, why not say that in the first place? because we need a nobel cause, maybe? we gave saddam the gas and knew he was gassing his own people, where were we then? I’m sorry but your nobel cause’s are lies but I love your loyalty.
Bwahahahahaha! Keith just reported that Castanaga lives with his parents. I wonder if he was in his underwear and munching on Cheetos when he was arrested.
Dear Jack. Your post was, shall we say, a little unusual for a Sadly, No reader, but nevertheless interesting. I am neither a kid nor underexposed to tyranny, torture and murder.I lived and fought through apartheid, Jack, so let’s just say I know where you’re coming from re real suffering.
Having established my “credentialsâ€?, I hope to your satisfaction, Jack, May I say that I feel the dichotomy between life and politics is not quite as wide as you seem to think. Apartheid was a political series of decisions, the decision to fight it was a political one and the struggle itself was intensely political. I agree that sometimes the “kidsâ€? don’t seem to realize the consequences of political action – see, for example, all those Rah Rah War – Bomb everyone types on rightwing blogs – but I think having ideals and finding how to put them into practice is an essential in the maturing of a citizen. Wouldn’t you agree?
Suez in SAfrica
Dear Suez,
If you really fought through Apartheid, then you got chops with me. I read what you’re saying. I had a little personal incident at college in regards to Apartheid, but that’s neither here nor there.
Nobody who has ever really been to war though thinks it is rah, rah, let’s bomb.
Of course you want to approach every dangerous situation with high morale and confidence, but that doesn’t mean you enjoy it or wish it weren’t necessary.
Wars of all kinds may be necessary, but they are not fun. A sort of protracted Civil War was necessary in South Africa to end Apratheid, and many people died and many were killed. But it was necessary. In the end.
And yes, there, like in any war, such as Iraq, politics is an important component. But politics didn’t win it, men and women willing to fight and die and the other side willing to change changed it. In other words to me politics was one of the tools of the Spirit of Man to be free, the Spirit of Man was not a tool of politics. (I know you didn’t mention Iraq in your post to me but some others did, and since I see the analogy, I’ll play the hand dealt me.)
But I’m not willing to leave the Iraqi kids and women and the innocent people there to the tender mercies of some up and coming terrorist regime. Or theocratic tyranny.
And yes, America has made plenty of mistakes in the past. All nations do. Fighting to liberate oppressed peoples is not one of them.
Fighting in a much better way, to liberate Iraq, I’m all for that. Giving them up to the enemy, I’m not for that.
But to tell you the truth, I don’t know what a normal Sadly, No reader is. I came here because I found this link as a reference to another article, so I’m completely ignorant of the normal readership.
I’m not a uniformed soldier by the way, not in the way I’m sure you’re thinking anyhow.
But I have been involve din things and seen things and worked on things both alone and with others which give me little interest in seeing people butchered or enslaved, no matter who they are or where they live.
Apartheid took a long time to kill. A long time doesn’t bother me at all, I’ve been around awhile. So I’m not easily discouraged by a three year war. Or a 40 year Cold War.
But I still say that although you and I have political disagreements on some things, this doesn’t mean everything that passes between us has to be reduced to politics.
Anyway, you and the others take care.
By the way, I wrote a poem some time ago about Africa.
I put it up on my website.
You might or might not like it.
I think I’ll post it there and you can tell me what you think of it if you like.
It’s at the bottom of the entry.
http://themissal.blogspot.com/2006/11/tuesday-science-and-technology-roundup.html
Man, Jack, for someone with such a weighty and significant take on life, you sure have a whole fucking lot of time to post somber treatises on your own hard-nosed realism on satire blogs. I’ll put it simply: it’s not my fault that like so many people your view of politics is restricted to parties and platforms.
War is political. If it wasn’t, soldiers wouldn’t wear uniforms. The soldier may not be political, but the people who put his gun in his hand and tell him who to fire at are.
“We’re not the ones killing civilians in Iraq by the busload, the terrorists are.”
Within a year of 9/11, American bombs had destroyed three times as many innocent lives in Afghanistan as perished in the World Trade Center. I really think you should consider whether those people would have considered that an acceptable tradeoff.
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sanitas said,
November 13, 2006 at 18:59
Thank God someones here to protect the English langauge.
psst.. hey dipshit… it’s “someone’s”
It’s a contraction of someone and is, and requires an apostrophe.
If you’re going to be a grammar cop, don’t be a dumbass at the same time.
/good game
“Within a year of 9/11, American bombs had destroyed three times as many innocent lives in Afghanistan as perished in the World Trade Center. I really think you should consider whether those people would have considered that an acceptable tradeoff.”
If I were killed so that my family, freinds and fellow citizens could be free and safe, that wouldn’t bother me much. It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve risked that.
If I were killed so that a terrorist could come to power, that would bother me a bit.
When the US military kills innocents, 99% of the time it is accidentally, and it happens because we are at war in Afghanistan (and elsewhere) so that everyone else may live as free men, women and children. So that the men may have a job future, so that the women don’t have to live like enslaved chattel who are executed on public soccer fields, and so that the little orphans don’t have to starve anymore because their husband was shot for listening to music and their mothers was hung for not wearing her burkha to the marketplace.
When the Taliban, Al Qaeda, insurgents, or any of the related terror organizations kill innocents they almost always do it intentionally, and it is not to free men, to liberate women, to feed and educate orphans, to rebuild cities, or to bring progress.
If you do not, are incapable of, or simply will not (for reasons of your own) understand the difference between those two intentions, those two methods of operating, and those two outcomes, that’s you fault. That’s your soul. That’s your mind. It’s got nothing to do with me or mine.
Turn your scalpel towards the cancer, not the doctor.
check the FBI Docs CLOSELY !!!
http://tinyurl.com/ykf4kc
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2006/11/the-castagana-correspondence-right-what-you-know.php
“ITEMS TO BE SEIZED”
(item “P”)
possible chemicals that could be used to make WMD,
or literature on how to make it.
so, the mailings may not have comatained anthrax,
but this guy was FAR from being harmless !!!
plese POST THIS, blog the hell out of it.
the blogosphere forgot this little tidbit !!!
what if a liberal sent this to some repugs in office, or O’Reilly etc…
the guy would be waterboarded to death in Guantanamo !!!
Brad
http://911review.org
i wanted to research this a bit more, if anyone has more links.
what did this guy do for a living ?
maybe nothing, he lived with Dad 78 yo.
Geneva Castagana
all i see is that he designed 1 circuit for an AM radio.
which doesnt mean much, cos lots of people have done it in the past.
probably thousands,
if you know radio at all, all you have to do, is take someone elses design, and change it a bit.
just wondering if he knew how to do anything at all
besides complain about the left.
heres another post of his….
maybe nothing, but he ends with the phrase “the perp was never found”
reminding me of his comments about his own letters mailed, saying that “theres not much info”
like he wants to know if theres more about it.
like i said,
probably nothing, but may be worth looking into.
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Posted by marc costanzo to Kuksool; Cicero; All
On News/Activism 11/09/2006 10:57:22 PM PST · 87 of 101
>>More like a news pundit future. I wouldn’t be surprised if Linc joins Buchanan and Scarbourgh to bash Bush on MSNBC.
“The FBI said federal agents watched Castagana, of Los Angeles, walk from his home to a public mailbox Thursday and deposit several letters. One was allegedly addressed to someone previously targeted and contained the white powder.”
The implication from this article is that he had an already established history and execution pattern of this type of thing, making him easy to track.
In addition he apparently chose to use the same delivery method for separate threat attacks and to employ mail drops within easy walking distance of his home.
Not exactly the brightest of criminals.
Then again I don’t think I’ve ever met any truly bright criminals.
[…] Chad, it turns out, is a 39-year-old unemployed Freeper living in his mom’s basement in Woodland Hills, California. When not posting favorable stuff about Katherine Harris on Free Republic (under the name Marc Constanza), he was raiding Mom’s kitchen for borax, baking soda and anything else that looked like anthrax powder and mailing it to liberals. The full story of how Chad got caught is set forth in an FBI search warrant affidavit which details a tale of side-splittingly hilarious criminal ineptitude. […]
[…] It turns out that Castagana is – or rather, was – a member of Free Republic. (The connection was made here on Democratic Underground by morgan2.) His account isn’t there any more, but fortunately several people were able to grab his profile before he was banned. Check it out: I am a lifelong Conservative Republican . […]
Does anyone else not see a real problem here??? Some conservative wiseguy sends out letters on about Oct. 28-30 and is nabbed by the FBI on Nov. 13th…and we still haven’t caught the party that sent out the actual anthrax 5 years ago??? Where’s the outrage people??? I find it laughable that you all bicker over politics or persuasion but don’t ask some real serious questions. Good luck to us all.
Shorter Chris:
“Until the 2001 anthrax mailer is caught, conservative copycat terrorists should be allowed to operate with impunity.”
[…] SadlyNo has a LOT more on this. marccostanzo‘s account has since been deleted. […]