An informed electorate is just that
Over my scrambled eggs this morning, I read as David Brooks bungled into some nearly insightful observations about declining post-industrial towns such as Mansfield, Ohio:
This is the economic backdrop to the most important political race in the country, the Senate campaign between Sherrod Brown, a Democrat now in the House, and Mike DeWine, the Republican incumbent. It’s important because each candidate comes from the most vibrant strain in his own party. Brown is a full-bore economic populist. DeWine is an independent McCainiac conservative. In two years, the national parties will be talking in just these ways, and we’re seeing a preview of that battle today.
Now, there are plenty of points there worth disputing, but it’s likely that political dynamic – economic populism vs. moderate conservatism – will shape up as the dominant theme for 2008, if only because myopic but influential pundits like Brooks will promote it. So I was interested to see where he’d take that premise, even if it fell apart under closer scrutiny.
Alas, Brooks used his remaining column inches to paint Brown as a Yale-educated phony populist class-warrior who entered politics to indulge his narcissism and discusses national security only on his campaign’s scripted terms. On the other hand DeWine, Brooks writes, is a modest, knowledgeable and respected public servant who shuns the spotlight and is also a maverick, in his own principled and moderate way. (Sigh.) This column is basically a close-focus follow-up to a column from two weeks ago, in which Brooks continues to promote the idea that Democrats flap around from issue to issue, trying to appeal to what voters say they want (!), while Republicans maintain fidelity to some sort of political/moral prime directive from which voters occasionally stray (bless their hearts…) but always return.
Elsewhere in election coverage, a recent study reports findings of the good news-bad news variety. The bad news is that local news broadcasts spend less time covering elections than they do promoting upcoming stories (is our democracy at risk?). The good news is, voters don’t get much of their election coverage from the unsavory likes of local news broadcasters.
Brooks continues to promote the idea that Democrats flap around from issue to issue, trying to appeal to what voters say they want (!)
At this point, I’m a little nostalgic for Democrats jumping from issue to issue in order to appeal to left-leaning voters. So I go to the DNC homepage to check out what those issues are, and what do I find? No issues. I do find names, lots of names. Good, I think! Let’s hear about all the Dems running for office. Nope. No such luck. Of eleven names mentioned, only two are actual Dem candidates (McCaskill and Wetterling). The rest — Bush, Foley, Rove, Foley, McCain, Foley, Reynolds, Foley — well, you get the idea. Why aren’t these guys running an affirmative campaign? Is relying on the voters’ gag reflex really the sum total of their national strategy?
With bush/cheney/rove/foley self-destructing at the atomic level, I’m sure the dems see this as the safesty course. Why take a position when the other side keeps driving a stake into deeply unpopular ground? But they have to know that the option to sit on the sidelines and offer nothing other than “I’m not the other guy” has a very short shelf life. Hopefully, there is a plan somewhere to take real positions before, say, 2008 or at least 2010. Not that I approve, mind you, but I do understand….
mikey
I’d like to believe (but I have no evidence for this – does that make me a Republican?) that the sort of people who get their “news” from local news, don’t bother to vote anyway.
They are too busy trying to find pictures of Tom Cruise’s baby.
Now, there are plenty of points there worth disputing, but it’s likely that political dynamic – economic populism vs. moderate conservatism – will shape up as the dominant theme for 2008, if only because myopic but influential pundits like Brooks will promote it.
What makes you think hardcore wingnuttery will go quietly into the night?
Is Brad trying to say that jackboots are shaping up to be this fall’s *hottest* fashion accessory?
That’s one upside of the whole Iraq debacle. With various state National Guard troops all tied up in the quagmire, it’s that much more difficult to implement a full-blown police state.
Everybody riot!!Oops–no inciting! My bad!The fact of the matter is that 2008 will be another clash between a sensible conservative like Bush and an unhinged extreme leftist like Kerry or Dean.
The unhinged left forced Mark Warner out of the race in their quest to coronate Hillary as the nominee.
The only way that the GOP loses in 2006 if they’re weak enough that they believe the media spin.
The base knows that this election is a referendum on their values and the War on Terror and a vote for the Republicans is a vote for their values and the War on Terror.
Brooks has been a servant of hardcore wingnuttery for the past five years (at least). Anything he types that appears differently is simply subterfuge.
All your base are belong to us, Gary.
The unhinged left forced Mark Warner out of the race in their quest to coronate Hillary as the nominee.
Where does he even get this stuff from? He does know that Kos is a big Mark Warner fan, right?
Republicans don’t have values, Gary. Except money. That they value. And they laugh at the dumb ass religious conservatives who support the GOP in opposition to their own economic best interests. The Religious Right (wrong) proves the truism that some people really are too stupid to live.
“Only problem is your fucking rhetoric
We’re more in danger than before you took power”
Corey Taylor
Kos is trying to fool people into thinking that he isn’t an extreme liberal.
http://www.newgrounds.com/collection/brackenwood.html Cause it’s awesome.
You know, Gary, you’re really getting stale. Come up with some new bullshit talking points, okay? Really. I swear, all your posts are the same damn trite over and over. “blah blah blah, war is peace, we’ve always been allies with Eurasia. Bush is a God among men, how I wish to feel his rock hard blah blah blah”
Gary, if there was one word I had to use to describe John Kerry, “unhinged” would not be it.
“Stoic” would be more apt. “Borderline deceased” would probably be the best one.
Lurch?
It pays to improve your word power!
Synonyms for ‘Unhinged’: irrational, batty, crackers, crazy, daffy, delirious, demented, deranged, disordered, disoriented, distraught, disturbed, dizzy, infatuated, insane, irrational, loco, loony, lunatic, mad, maniac, manic, mental, non compos mentis, not all there, not right, off, psychotic, queer, reasonless, senseless, sick, tetched, touched, unbalanced, unsettled, unsound, wandering.
Many of these would go well with ‘Left’, providing a sense of liveliness and spontaneity to your prose. That’s all right, Gary, no need to thank us.
That’s about right, Jillian.
And . . . uh . . . does Gary or anyone else for that matter really think Hillary is a lefty? She makes Bill look downright commie . . .
Oh, and mikey: yeah, I know. It’s a strategy. It’s just that it’s been a long, long time since I’ve seen actual Dem candidates standing up *for* something instead of *against* something, and I’m starting to get, y’know, antsy . . . although, on a tangentially related note, it is gratifying to see Coach Dave calling for a split of the evangelicals from the GOP. That would be fun to watch.
D r i f t g l a s s !
Not to insult the writers of this fine site, but now I read primarily for Gary’s “reactions.” I can’t quite fathom what the purpose of his posts are. Are people supposed to honestly get upset?
Mort, I have heard people call Hillary Clinton the “head American Communist” beofore.
I swear I’m telling the truth.
I just heard an ad for one of the Indiana races today that referred to the CPUSA as an “ultraliberal” group.
It’s like nobody in America speaks English sometimes.
Not to insult the writers of this fine site, but now I read primarily for Gary’s “reactions.� I can’t quite fathom what the purpose of his posts are. Are people supposed to honestly get upset?
Gary, as far as I can tell, works something like a vaccine. He contains weakened forms of the most potent wingnut viruses, and lets us build up an immunity to them.
Before I started reading Gary’s posts, wingnut memes used to irritate me. Now, I just laugh at them. Full strength stupid is still just plain old stupid.
I think Bill O has harvested a culture among the vocal that anyone who isn’t in lickstep with you is, by some sort of logic, “far” or “extreme” in their beliefs.
Ie, “I want to round up everyone who’s ever been in a Mosque and have them shot to death without trial; you think this is a bad plan. Therefore, you’re the extreme left tree hugging soft-on-terror pussy, and [i]I[/i] am the rational,. middle ground.”
You simply can’t combat that level of stupid.
Not to insult the writers of this fine site, but now I read primarily for Gary’s “reactions.� I can’t quite fathom what the purpose of his posts are. Are people supposed to honestly get upset?
Gary is what we like to call a “troll.” He gets erections off his self-deluding notions that what he says legitimately upsets us. Normally, however, it’s more like a game of wingnut whack-a-mole … he pops his head out of his hole every now and then and says “radical leftist!,” and someone takes a mallet and whacks him on his wingnut head until he ducks back into his hole for a little while.
BTW — I demand new Seinfeld quotes.
Ignoramus Innoculation! I dig it, fabbo!
Gary Ruppert said,
The unhinged left forced Mark Warner out of the race in their quest to coronate Hillary as the nominee.
“Coronate” is good. It has two more syllables than ‘crown’ so it must be classier.
Candy said,
Ignoramus Innoculation! I dig it, fabbo!
“Ignorabimus” might be more to the point.
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Le mot juste, herr doktor! Ignoramus et ignorabimus!
Dos Equis rules, btw. If Mexican beer could run for President, I would vote for it.
Just an observation.
The fact of the matter is that 2008 will be another clash between a sensible conservative like Bush and an unhinged extreme leftist like Kerry or Dean.
Gary, I’m pretty sure conservative doesn’t mean what you think it means. I don’t give a rats ass if you love bush or not, but dude, he ain’t conservative. He has been the most extreme, activist president in recent history. And this, coupled with the fact that he’s a bumbling boob, is the real root of the problem…
mikey
Hey Candy, right on. I’ve spent a lot of time south of the border (mostly around nuevo vallarta) and learned to love the local brews. My faves are pacifico and modello negra. Nothing better than a night sail fueled by Pacifico and good conversation..
mikey
I love Modello Negra too, Mikey. I haven’t had pacifico, but would love to try it.
I fought a battle between drinking Pinot Noir or Dos Equis, but the beer won out. I could always switch to wine later…
Well, I’m having a scotch, watching the Tigers celebrate (Maglio rocks, and has great hair. Michael Moore is still fat). I’m about to start working on a a lasagna and an apple crisp, so I’ve got a few hours in the kitch ahead of me. Scotch, a little california medicinal marijuana and the NL playoff game will accompany me…
mikey
Mmmmmmmmmarijuana………..
I usually do a spot of cooking on the weekend, but I’m on my own tonight, so I think I may order a pizza. I have a lot of apples, so maybe I’ll make an apple something. I could stew them, I love stewed apples with lots of cinnamon and brown sugar.
I’ll watch V for Vendetta for the 10th time since I bought the DVD the other day, drink beer, and eat pizza. A mellow night.
“The base knows that this election is a referendum on their values and the War on Terror and a vote for the Republicans is a vote for their values and the War on Terror.”
Gar, you are a treasure, ’cause you know not of which the truth you speak. The base, as in our basest desires, our basest fears and our basest bigotries are indeed, reflected in the platform of the right. And as long as they pander to those basest of emotions they will continue to have some success. Some of us, as a former Detroit Lions coach once said, want to make this statement true: “The bar is high”.
Of course he also said “In this league, snap, hold, kick” and once took the wind in an overtime coin toss loss (toss loss, hehe), so I digress.
Thank you, mikey, for joining in. Don’t know if you’re a native, but the Mags walk-off was awesome, and we’re not done. Bring it on (probably the Cards but who knows). GO TIGERS!!!
lemonheads. My dad and I used to have this argument (when he wasn’t beating on someone) about the value of the manager. I always took the position that it was the players, the manager really didn’t contribute enough to make a real difference. My dad insisted that the manager, by controlling the environment, “steering the ship” if you will, makes a huge difference. After watching Dusty Baker lose the world series in ’02 and Jim Leland turn the tigers around, I stand corrected. Jim Leland is a baseball GOD, and the Tigers are this years team of destiny…
mikey
Out of curiousity, now that I’ve hijacked the thread temporarily for Michiganders, is anyone paying attention to the gubernatorial race here? Jennifer Granholm, the Democratic incumbent inherited a giant deficit and the fact that the Big Three is no longer. Her opponent, Dick DeVos is the son of the founder of Amway, and has no political experience or clear agenda. I’m not a big fan of Jenny from the Block (as some here affectionately call her) but damn if I want a guy who’s already spent seventeen million of his own money on ads touting he’s just not “her” to win. Anyone want to pipe in? I don’t want to make this the Ruppert thread where it’s commenting for two but I’m curious.
Gary has a lovely unconscious irony.
I just love it that a former White House staffer is saying that Rove called the religious right “nuts”. That may be an even better gift that keeps giving than Foley. Never mind that Rove’s denying it; those people always knew in the bottom of their little pink hearts that everybody was making fun of them, but they’ve been in denial.
It’s all very entertaining.
mikey, you are so correct. Leyland was the difference, as well as a few key free agent pick-ups (Rogers, Palanco, etc.). Dude’s a savant. Game 2, starts Alexis Gomez who played in 35 games all year. The guy drives in FOUR runs. I’m beside myself (and my scotch, as well).
Lemonheads, I’ve been too busy watching the race for Gov here in Iowa between dumb and dumber. Sorry. But anyone remotely tied to Amway needs to lose big.
Now Jenny From the Block will go through my head all night! … (turns and puts KT Tunstall on the stereo for another run through….)
You know, the closer we get to the elections, the more and more I find my self loving that Daria show from MTV. Mmmm… Daria…so true.
In David Brooks’ mind, the Gang of 14 must be the greatest thing to happen to democracy since the Magna Carta.
Leyland is so brilliant he not only starts Neifi Perez, but sometimes bats him in the two hole. The Tigers will win despite Leyland, not because of him.
JK, I’ll give you Neifi as a questionable call, but he also went with starter number four for the first game both series.
And here we are.
‘Nuf said.
Ah hell, Dusty loved Neifi too. Is he on this team?
mikey
Managing is a lot easier when you have two unhittable 23-year old aces sandwiched around an extremely crafty veteran left-hander, not to mention the wickedness that is Joel Zumaya. Dusty Baker could probably manage this team successfully, and Dusty is a complete moron.
Durable, consistent starting pitching is so important. The Mets are proving that it is not very wise to build your rotation around a bunch of 40-year olds. Look at them today– Steve Crapsel just gave up a bomb to Jeff Freakin’ Suppan. Let Leyland try to manage with a rotation of Glavine, Maine, Trachsel and Perez and let’s see how he does.
Gary Ruppert uses a illogical co-processor in place of his left frontal lobe. In effect it takes two seperate categorys of input and produces two seperate forms of output (although both are rather similarly).
Any story that negatively portrays republicans in any wrongful light is automatically marked as evidence that there exists a vast evil conspiracy to trick the American people into not voting republican. This conspiracy includes Kos, Liberals, Mexicans, Immigrants, Arabs, Muslims, Europeans, the Media and of course the Democratic Party. Witness Gary’s assertions that the Democrats must be behind the Foley Scandal, even if the philosophy of personal responsibility would put that mess at Foley and the House leadership’s feet.
Any non-story invovling a democrat is automatically proof of their (or some other democrat’s) evilness. Thus Harry Reid making money of some land deal is proof that he’s corrupt. And Mark Warner not running is proof that he’s a coward or that the party isn’t inclusive enough or something.
See, he’s functioning at 100%
Leyland is so brilliant he not only starts Neifi Perez, but sometimes bats him in the two hole. The Tigers will win despite Leyland, not because of him.
I can’t believe you said that. When Perez played for Dusty is stunk it up. Sure, he was great defensively, but don’t ask him to get a hit her ya. And Mikey, if Leland is such a god why did the Pirates stink so bad? All I’m saying is that if you have a good team that’s where a good manager can do wonders. But if a manager has a stinky ass team then there isn’t shit he can do about it. I like to look back at the Diamondbacks in 01. Brenly wasn’t a manager (ok, he had the title, but come on), but they won the series against the evil empire. A bunch oh really good players (exactly what the Tigers are) are the difference. You don’t really need an ARod or a Bonds (I can’t believe I just said that) to take a team all the way…gnome sayin….
if Leland is such a god why did the Pirates stink so bad?
Nope. Full stop. Bullshit. How did he win with florida in ’97? Buncha pieces. He fucking GETS it now…
mikey
And now that I think about it, I’m not sure I want to buy into your characterisation of brenly. He built the environment where those guys could succeed. I don’t think you can dismiss that…
mikey
mikey’s on it again. Good team, really good manager… gold.
He pulls enough of the right strings to make it happen. JK, did you pick the Tig’s this year? Maybe ’cause of their plethora of talent?
Enough. The guy knows what he’s doing, and you’re right, JK, as far as the pitching goes; it’s there and it’s going to make the dif. Always does. And it looks like the Cards are making the move on the series. I haven’t been this excited about post-season in a long time, but it should be obvious why. It’s been nineteen freakin’ years.
“those people always knew in the bottom of their little pink hearts that everybody was making fun of them, but they’ve been in denial.”
Christians have always been, and will always be persecuted for our beliefs. We don’t deny it, Jesus told us it would be this way. When you think you are making fun of us, you’re really just reinforcing the teachings of Jesus and strengthening our faith. Dumbass.
Like when those poor Christians were made fun of by the Aztecs? Or how about when the Inquisitors were forced to wear those silly red hats? And the endless torment and discrimination forced upon the SS by those insensitive jews at Auschwitz?
When, oh when, will it finally be the day for the Christians?
Not to mention the bastion of humility and minimalist existance that is the Vatican. Poor dears, barely scrapping by, yet still faithful to their god.
When you think you are making fun of us, you’re really just reinforcing the teachings of Jesus and strengthening our faith. Dumbass.
Whatever happened to “turn the other cheek?” Jesus doesn’t want you to call people “dumbass.” I’m pretty sure it’s in the Bible somewhere, something about a Golden Rule or something. Not a very Christian thing to do, but since it’s well established that you’re the type of Christian who uses the faith as nothing more than a club to beat people over the head with, it’s not surprising. Maybe you should actually try following Jeebus’ teachings and try to live a life of peace rather than hurling insults all the time and cheerleading for nuclear war. You’re making Baby Jeebus cry.
And the Florida Marlins team in ’97 was LOADED. Prime Gary Sheffield, Kevin Brown, Alex Fernandez, Robb Nen, Moises Alou, Edgar Renteria, Livan Hernandez… that team was full of All-Stars.
Christians have always been, and will always be persecuted for our beliefs. We don’t deny it, Jesus told us it would be this way. When you think you are making fun of us, you’re really just reinforcing the teachings of Jesus and strengthening our faith. Dumbass.
Yes, let us all shed a tear for the persecution of the largest religion the world, for only they know true suffering. Oh the sting they must feel when the government denies them their God-given right to force others to convert to your beliefs and to legislate bigotry. Their only hope for their survival is to rally against non-existant threats, and be thankful for the true meaning of Christmas as they kill eachother for a PS3.
Have you ever thought that maybe if you stop acting like any form of disagreement with the Religioius Right (TM) is equal to a Christian Holocaust, people might actually take you seriously.
The myth of the Persecution of the Majority has long been with us. It’ s fed dozens of wars and brought millions to the ballot box. I wish I had a solution to this paradox, but I am a simple man waiting for SNL to run while the local network runs their recap of the Tigers clinching the American League championship (didn’t see that coming, did you?). GO TIGERS!!!
I have nothing to do with the “religious right.” I really don’t pay much attention to politics. However, when someone says something as stoopid as what Candy said, it needs to be corrected.
Christians have always been, and will always be persecuted for our beliefs.
Here are some possible reasons for this:
– You do not act according to the beliefs you espouse, and are being mocked for your hypocrisy.
– Your beliefs are nonsensical, and are being mocked for their inanity.
– Your beliefs include the killing of those who have different beliefs, and are being mocked to expose the danger of taking you seriously.
Feel free to choose more than one.
See?
Gary isn’t here to convince anyone other than himself. “The Rethugs have just gotta win! There is a Santa Claus! Bigfoot married my sister!” If he keeps repeating his ridiculous talking points, over and over, eventually he just might convince himself that they’ll win. Then, in two weeks, after the Dems take the House, he either goes completely mad and refuses to admit it (“It was a Republican’t tsunami!!!!1!”) or else just segues into sniping at the new Dem majority as if nothing happened (“Nancy Pelosi uses Snowflake Babies as artificial sweetener in her tea!1!!!!!1!”). Or else they steal the election and he gets all “Bwah-hah-hah!!” about it. He’s a pillock.
Guys…ban that idiot. annieganel.
By the way, love your commitment to free speech. You fucking Americans torture everone, but….
…You mean well, eh?
annie is silly and makes me laugh. Do another somersault, clownette! So, you’re one of the recent “increasing number” of keee-ristians showing up in Canada. Poor Canada. Used to be such a nice place. Like I’ve always said, the Xians are soooooo convinced that they’re being “persecuted”… It would probably do them a world of good if somebody actually did. And KBR is building all those “camps.” Shame to let ’em go to waste.
DeWine is a McCanian?!!?! This man has his head so far up Bush’s ass that he can see what he ate for dinner. And he has “yea’d” every bit of legislation that this sorry-ass administration has ‘suggested’. Yeah, real maverick.
Who’s annieganel?
I have nothing to do with the “religious right.� I really don’t pay much attention to politics. However, when someone says something as stoopid as what Candy said, it needs to be corrected.
If you don’t pay attention to politics, then why the hell are you here? (I mean besides using it as an excuse to avoid contributing to society.)
if Leland is such a god why did the Pirates stink so bad?
The Pirates with Leyland as manager (1986-1996)
1986 64-98 6th in division
1987 80-82 4th
1988 85-75 2nd
1989 74-88 5th
1990 95-67 1st
1991 98-64 1st
1992 96-66 1st
1993 75-87 5th
1994 53-61 3rd
1995 58-86 5th
1996 73-89 5th
overall 851-863
I’m here for the useless sports trivia.
Leyland is an old-school style manager, and because of that occasionally makes boneheaded moves, like putting Neifi Perez in the two hole. Neifi bats #2 because according to ancient, outdated baseball tradition, that’s where you bat your banjo-hitting infielder, whether or not he has a career .298 OBP. As a stat-obsessed baseball nerd, these kinds of baseball people drive me batty sometimes. Nobody is worse than Dusty Baker, who claims OBP is not important because you don’t want to have lots of runners “clogging up the bases.”
So Leyland is not necessarily great tactically, but he does seem to be very good at holding players accountable, keeping the team on the same page and getting the team to play good fundamental ball. There are no massive egos on the Tigers, and they have been able to bear down and win key games all season long. Every time they’ve gone in a little slump, they have very calmly righted the ship and put up key wins. They’ve been doing it all season long.
Plus, my dad, who is a nightclub singer down in Florida, hung out with Leyland a few times when Leyland managed the Marlins, and my dad says Leyland is a great guy. So he’s got that going for him.
Ha ha
You called her annieganel and she called you out on it.
With Jesus at her side, she will always win against the forces of darkness!
(And in her case, as with so many Christians, winning means screaming “I’m a martyr!” the loudest.)
God be with you, annieganel.
(Hee hee. It was so funny the way you made fun of that guy who called you by the wrong name. You showed him. Truly thy faith strengthens thee for battle with the heathens.)
Sadly, I’d be willing to bet our gal annie doesn’t have a clue who Matthew Shepard was.
Also, I’m pretty sure her irony meter is broken…
BTW Candy, most of those xtians you were referring to don’t have pink hearts – they’re black, through and through.
Shut up libs, you’ve got nothing.
Gary’s grumpy this morning. I have an antidote, Gar-bear: pour a nice hot cup of coffee, slip into a comfy chair and read the Sunday New York Times editorial pages.
You may learn something.
Holy shit, Gary’s actually coherent today.
But the correct construction is, “The fact is, you libs got nothing.”
Always glad to help the trolls through these ticklish times.
Note to the Sadly, No!sians: I call this a challenge.
I know who Matt was you fucking idiot. I also know that this fucking idiot who uses his name like this is just as bad a Phelps and it’s fucking sick and so are you, paganfuckheadgirl.
I’m gonna take the position that being called an idiot by the mindless, hate filled fucktard annie is a good thing. Congrats, ‘girl….
mikey
Seems like there’s an annoying buzzing sound in the room…. the sound of tiny little wingnut wings rubbing angrily together. Someone close the screen…. They’re fecund little bastards, and multiply like fruitflies. Don’t leave food out for them.
As far as Mal de Mer calling on the Powers That Sadly Be to ban annieangel goes–dude, you’ve made it very, very clear that you think everyone here who happens to be an American is an asshole and an idiot*. So, why, exactly, should we do anything for you? I’m truly curious. I can’t think of a reason myself, but then again, I’m an idiot. And an asshole.
*This seems, statistically, unlikely at best.
Mal de Mer can mange la merde 🙂
Mal de Mer,
Speaking as a fellow canadian you are a god damn coward. If you want to get up in America’s face don’t be a pussy and do it on a humorous left of center site, put your balls back on and go register for townhall or redstate and confront the people you really hate, the people who made the Amurikkka you hate.
Do you get it?
> Dusty Baker could probably manage this team successfully, and Dusty is a complete moron.
I’m available, dudes!
Yup. I’m as bad as Fred Phelps. Exactly the same thing. Yup. Yupper.
There are extremists on all sides. On one extreme you have a guy who protests at funerals of dead soldiers and says they deserved it because they come from a country that is too tolerant of homosexuals.
And on the other extreme, you have a guy who occasionally makes annieangel go ballstic.
It’s exactly the same thing. All of you should pray to Jesus real hard and he will make you see that these are exactly the same thing.
And he may also help you to see that pointing out Christian hypocrisy is exactly the same thing as the Holocaust: persecution is persecution.
I guess all I can ask is: do you still think she’s a parody?
Actually I think she’s a stupid hosebag who deserves to be ignored. Seriously, she’s just an attention whore, parody or not. Pay no heed… or laugh gently, and turn away.