Big guys in skintight pants grunting and sweating together? Nothing gay about that at all.

Second that.

But at football’s core is a physicality bordering on violence, and to the left, that is anathema — an atavistic impulse that must be squeezed out of our children.

As a lefty who engages in “a physicality bordering on violence”, I’m gonna flat-out state that anyone who disparages safety precautions is a fucking idiot. I wouldn’t play judo in a space without mats, I wouldn’t conceive of playing tackle football without a helmet. Hell, I don’t even ride a bike without a helmet.

There’s nothing manly about a grievous head injury, but there’s something inherently conservative about it.

I was reading along up to the “SHOOT OUT THE LIGHTS” part and the voice on the radio started singing “Shoot out the lights” at the SAME MOMENT. Hah! Thought-control experiment or a message from Almighty Bob? I am TRIPPING.

Different song though. Noirish folk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJKnk09YuQU

Speaking of toxic masculinity, I don’t know if this guy’s affect is more reminiscent of a fire-and-brimstone preacher, or a professional wrestler.

Bob moves in mysterious ways, his blunders to perform.

Also: my sniffings of what identifies as “the Left” on these Interwebs haven’t detected much perfume of any utopian visions – unless you’re a hardcore masochist. In fact, any such lovely bouquet was swept away by some random breeze somewhere around the time Fauvism was the hot new thing.

OMG BIRDNOW IS A TIME-TRAVELLER FROM BIZARRO-1907!!!

As long as it maintains fealty to physical reality, no lefty party or organization can escape the handicap of shite political optics: “Shits bad … shit’s REALLY bad, so here’s the best stuff we can do to make it better, although this late in the game it may be so bad it’s literally unfixable” isn’t ever going to be sexy.

Pretty ironic of this mewling git to boo-hoo-hoo about pro-sports being watered down by DFHs when his cohort has done exactly the same thing to political discourse for over 30 years, a tragedy of the intellectual commons in which they take no small pride, even as its obvious results grow ever more deadly.

I don’t know if this guy’s affect is more reminiscent of a fire-and-brimstone preacher, or a professional wrestler.

Needs moar Ritalin.

Everyone on the Right is doing the Glenn Beck (who may have raped and murdered a young girl in 1990) affectation, of being so overcome by the material they are about to provide that they can’t speak. It is a cheap bit of theatre, definitely a preacher thing, and NO ONE BELIEVES IT. Fuckin’ inbred.

For a nominal fee I’m also available to do kids’ birthday parties!

Why do I get the feeling that 8 years ago, this idiot was whining about all those soldiers who kept complaining about the lack of body armor. They’re just liberals who want to pacify war

Chickenhawks always bitch about pacifism without putting their own precious heads and/or asses in danger of any sort. It’s how they roll.

Well he’s definitely toxic. Not sure about the masculinity part. Me thinks he doth protest too much.

Ok, as a group, is there both a larger and more damaged group than ex football players? It’s a freaking cliche how any big guy with a limp or bad back or any chronic injury at all will talk about the time he got hurt playing football. I’m half convinced the reason we even have the stereotype of big dumb men is because of concussions incurred on the playing field. If we could protect the players from injury better, the life expectancy of ex-pro football wouldn’t be twenty years shorter than the average for American men.
Don’t we have a phrase that is depressingly common, ‘career-ending injury’? Baseball players can often play into their forties if they don’t get hurt. Why should a pro football player have to be washed up at 30 or 32 just because of accumulated injuries? the violence of contact sports doesn’t magically become safe, just because people rarely die from it. The bullshit phrase ‘That which does not kill me, makes me stronger’ sure doesn’t seem to account for knee injuries, concussions, or spinal injuries.

crowing about head injuries and long-term health effects from playing football.

Crowing? He thinks sportswriters are happy about it? And really, we all know why he’s pro-brain damage: that’s your conservative voter pool right there.

Things will be different when football is played by newer and more powerful models of roomba, but of course sissies will complain that the brains uploaded into them are getting their bits rattled.

Things will be different when football is played by newer and more powerful models of roomba, but of course sissies will complain that the brains uploaded into them are getting their bits rattled.

Teh Future (appears to be Packers-Indy).

I’m a pretty hardcore NFL fan. I fully support the new rules and want assholes like James Harrison out of the fucking league. I’m sick to death of all the macho bullshit and the “back in my day” crap. It’s bullshit.

If you actually WANT to watch a guy suffer a debilitating, lifelong injury, you’re a fucking asshole. It’s a GAME. It’s not a war. Those guys are NOT warriors, they’re players. They’re young, ambitious, and a large percentage of them are jacked to holy fuck on steroids and growth hormones. That’s the culture of the league.

Besides, ramming your head under the facemask is the wrong way to tackle.

Mr Bogg, he pullin the plug.

Goddammit. Good for him, he’s earned it. Pop on over dere and say bye.

We actually have a pilot who used to play in the NFL.

Scott Dill played for Phoenix, Jacksonville and Minnesota. He retired when his back gave out.

He’s not quite as huge as he was in his NFL days but he’s still a big guy.

When I was a Flight Engineer on the 727 he was flying as a First Officer and he’d have to put his seat back so far he’d almost be sitting on my lap.

Shorter Birdbrain: I AM NOT GAY IM NOT IM NOT

When I was a Flight Engineer on the 727 he was flying as a First Officer and he’d have to put his seat back so far he’d almost be sitting on my lap.

Eroticism has no altitude restrictions.

I was going to ask what would make a big guy like that choose a job where it would feel like he is squeezed into a kiddy seat all day, but further reflection tells me, the whole world might feel like that to an ex football player.

thus removing another layer of America’s masculinity

Mmm, which layer are you removing?

Also, “liberal sports media.” Puhleeeezzzz. Also, Jerry Sandusky. Really, Penn State with its traditionally awesome, badass, rough and tumble, defense, “Linebacker U,” and and all that.

Do go on, Timothy.

I have yet to hear an NFL player proclaim “You know what I love about this game? The injuries! I sure wish we could have more of them.”

That shithead either doesn’t know or doesn’t care that the law in Illinois stemmed from a notorious case where a kid who became quadriplegic after a hard tackle died after his insurance ran out. As for his asinine handwaving about Obamacare: All the ACA says is that someone has to buy insurance for the players. The Illinois law shifts that burden to the schools. WHERE IT BELONGS.

Nearly every sports commentator has bemoaned the idea of trying to keep players from dying on the field or suffering permanent brain damage. They either imply it or say it outright. Given that most of them are ex players, you can see exactly what that brain damage does to them.

The liberal sports media has jumped on board (despite no solid evidence that the game is dangerous),

HOLY SHIT

[Citation needed] and excuse me, asshole? No solid evidence? Really? fur realz?

There is no “liberal” sports media. And there is PLENTY of evidence that the game is potentially dangerous–which explains why the NFL is actually trying (albeit half-heartedly and under serious pressure from the player’s union) to do something about it.

Eroticism has no altitude restrictions.

Nor body size restrictions.

If football is really dangerous each team would have medical personnel. Duh.

[Citation needed] and excuse me, asshole? No solid evidence? Really? fur realz?

That is funny, that the thing he accepts as a given is unsupportable, and the thing he denies is backed up by numerous studies.

You know, I teach a martial arts class. And I was in a kickboxing gym for a couple of years. I’ve seen the trainees that come from Thailand, where shit’s pretty hard-core.

And you know what? The kind of injuries and stuff in that sport don’t seem anywhere near what you get in football, or even in conventional boxing. I mean, I’ve met older former Muay Thai guys and they seem largely OK. Nothing like Muhammad Ali.

I have a hypothesis: the hits I took in the ring mostly weren’t to my head, and broken ribs will heal. I’m at greater risk for arthritis, so my orthopedist tells me. Anyway, the thing is, it’s one thing to get slammed by a shin at maybe 3-5 m/s, since a leg only weighs about 10-20kg all told. There’s only so much momentum a normal-mass person can put into a roundhouse kick. But a guy who weighs 180 kg and is moving at up to 10 meters per second — I mean, that’s a LOT more energy slamming into you, even given that it’s distributed over a wider area.

(The reason you can put your fist through a board has everything to do with energy density, which is really high for a fist hitting a board, and less to do with the raw power involved).

And you know what? Health insurance for MA classes is bloody well mandatory everywhere I have been. You could try operating a dojo without it, but you’d better be really rich with a lot of lawyers. And this guy is complaining about requiring it for football, where you aren’t practicing something that is supposed to be deadly. Jesus christ.

Maybe he thinks all of us karate guys are just girly men? There is high correlation between science/ comic book nerds and practitioners I have noticed…

Birdnow’s position, then, is that the NFL itself is taking action for no reason. They’re like, “facts be damned, we’ve got to get this liberal sports media off our asses, whatever the cost!” If football is safe, and the NFL knows it, couldn’t they just say so?

The kind of injuries and stuff in that sport don’t seem anywhere near what you get in football, or even in conventional boxing. I mean, I’ve met older former Muay Thai guys and they seem largely OK. Nothing like Muhammad Ali.

I have a hypothesis: the hits I took in the ring mostly weren’t to my head, and broken ribs will heal.

In the 90’s, The Economist ran an editorial suggesting a return to bare-knuckle boxing in order to reduce the incidence of pugilistic dementia. The combination of a few ounces of zinc oxide tape and heavy gloves allows a boxer to punch the head of an opponent multiple times, while a bare-knuckler would suffer broken hands if he or she did this. While it may seem more brutal, bare-knuckle boxing would actually be a more humane sport.

And there is PLENTY of evidence that the game is potentially dangerous–which explains why the NFL is actually trying (albeit half-heartedly and under serious pressure from the player’s union) to do something about it..

And there you have it. Birdbrain invents a liberal conspiracy to force those manly men into wussification, because … FREEDUMBS or something when it’s the manly men he adores idolizes who are responsible. Textbook whingnut. Not to mention the whole “eeeek I might not be a REAL man lalalala I can’t hear you.”

With all this concern about the state of sports in America, you’d think our wingnutterati would be addressing the devastating effect of school budget cuts on PE programs. One thing that has baffled me (as a total non-sportsfan who is just observing) is that even though organized sports is a huge moneymaking venture, Republicans don’t seem to have much interest in keeping gym classes open in public schools. Isn’t that more damaging to the future of the Holy Football than any imaginary liberal conspiracy?

Also textbook whingnut rhetoric (with my apologies to rhetoric).

The latest fad among [latest imaginary enemy] seems to involve [inapprpriate verb or verb phrase describing invented behaviors] about [latest contra factual perceived injury to my psyche].

… a return to bare-knuckle boxing in order to reduce the incidence of pugilistic dementia.

I am completely uninterested in boxing (or American Football, for that matter), but I seem to recall that ads for boxing often feature a slo-mo shot of some poor bastard getting a brutal hit to the head. So it seems to me shots to the head is what they’re selling.

So it seems to me shots to the head is what they’re selling.

It is what they’re selling, but those shots tend to be from a punch, to the chin/jaw area, rather than a head to head hit from a 285 lb linebacker charging at a freakishly fast sprint. Football sells it too, while making noise about trying to reduce it.

So it seems to me shots to the head is what they’re selling.

I think that’s why heavyweight bouts get so much attention- the big guys hit harder, and there tend to be more knockouts. Not being a brutal person, although being able to play the brute convincingly, I prefer to watch the smaller boxers fight- to me, it’s about the skill, not the skull-smashing.

@Big Bad Bald Bastard — you know, one of the things I noticed when sparring with only a cup and a mouthpiece (no gloves or headgear) is that you become MUCH more careful. Knuckles on a skull hurts. To say nothing of an instep.

Muay Thai uses gloves, but they are lighter (that is, thinner) than American boxing gloves, IIRC. When I did it the standard was ~10-12 oz but I think American boxers use 16. Anybody know what the current rules are? I think they’ve changed in the last decade-plus.

The tape BTW isn’t for protecting your knuckles. It’s to hold your wrists straight so you don’t break them. Beginners ALWAYS wrap up their knuckles real good and sprain their wrists hitting the bag. You shouldn’t be able to bend your wrist if you have wrapped properly.

MMA guys are another interesting case because you haven’t got the knockouts — it’s all submission holds at the end. I suppose you could do a neck hold wrong and kill someone, but I haven’t heard of that happening yet.

Isn’t that more damaging to the future of the Holy Football than any imaginary liberal conspiracy?

They’d much rather see those funds come directly from parents to religious/private schools. That way the “right” kids get the funds and opportunities and the wrong ones stay where they belong.

The liberal conspiracy was trying to give every kid an opportunity at an education and including physical fitness and health in that education. Joke’s on them, however, most of that whole program was Eisenhower’s reaction to the horrors he witnessed of endless lines of malnourished, illiterate rubes that were supposed to learn to fight as a unit and save Western Civilization. Liberal plot, indeed!

The tape BTW isn’t for protecting your knuckles. It’s to hold your wrists straight so you don’t break them. Beginners ALWAYS wrap up their knuckles real good and sprain their wrists hitting the bag. You shouldn’t be able to bend your wrist if you have wrapped properly.

It still adds a considerable amount of weight, approximately another pound, if I’m not mistaken.

MMA guys are another interesting case because you haven’t got the knockouts — it’s all submission holds at the end. I suppose you could do a neck hold wrong and kill someone, but I haven’t heard of that happening yet.

I’m a judoka, and we use choke holds as well. I haven’t met a single person who is dumb enough to not tap when their vision starts to go blurry. When you first practice chokes, the person on the “receiving end” always keeps a bent knee elevated, so the person applying the technique can see if the chokee loses consciousness. Needless to say, there is a huge amount of trust involved.

Joey Timmy, do you like movies about gladiators?

Reading wingnut screeds about kids makes you wonder sometimes if they don’t think that growing up should be a never-ending parade of raining suicides from all the “inadequate” children who don’t live up to toxic masculinity norms.

Actually, given their angry resistance to the It Gets Better Project and any anti-bullying campaign… I might not be that far off here.

People like this seem to be envious of the reproductive strategies of fish and insects, with thousands of offspring released into the wild with no parental support and only the vagaries of fate to determine which lucky few will survive to reproduce. I would rather embrace the K-selection strategy that has worked thus far for humans, but I guess I’m just a traditionalist.

Gah, that tendentious bullshit has already been pasted here, and its source noted.

The term “PC” started as a joke among lefties to poke fun at themselves. Then around 1990, right-wingers seized on it as a term they could use to condemn people for exercising basic human decency.

But if that was posted by Dumbass, it’s going to disappear in five seconds anyway. So who cares?

Oh, I can’t ignore this. It’s too rich.

A third factor which also plays a role is that once everyone in your environment is a liar, and repeats whatever lies the Big Brother demands, the bonds of faith between individuals are severed, and a man has no family, no Church, no brotherhood, no community to whom he can turn for support. He is alone and naked before the stark power of Big Brother.

Because without the Church, you are at the mercy of Big Brother. So make the Church your Big Brother, and everything will be OK! Apparently, the Church is threatened by competing Big Brothers in the free market.

Even more distressing to the left is that sports started as a means of training for soldiers.

Especially tennis. And softball.
The Whackyweedia has some entries on classical team sports, episkyros and harpastum; one searches them in vain for any allusions to martial training. Perhaps those liberal Whackyweedia editors deleted them all.

despite no solid evidence that the game is dangerous…
…crowing about head injuries and long-term health effects from playing football.

Not only are the Leftists bereft of any evidence that football damages its performers, they also take indecent satisfaction from all the evidence they don’t have! Is there no end to their perfidy??

Bookmark it, libs!

My objection to political correctness, as a Christian, is that it is diabolic

Yeah, remember when Satan said it wasn’t the food you ate but rather what you said that made you unclean?

I usually just scroll past the copypasta, but I kept reading that, thinking: “This can’t possibly get any stupider, could it?”

Spoiler alert: It could!

Maybe not as stupid as the mood switch in my quoted sentence….

On the original topic:

Most of the brains people have seen are pickled in formaldehyde or plasticized or whatever. Most people don’t realize how soft and wiggly the living brain is—just like Jello, no shit—and how it bangs back and forth against the inside of the skull on sharp acceleration…or how little impact it takes to kill or injure all those neurons on the surface. There should be more padding, but our heads won’t fit through the birth canal as it is.

“one where impulses are channeled in the direction they choose, not where nature or free will directs.”

Yeah, THAT’S not rapey at all, kids…

Most people don’t realize how soft and wiggly the living brain is—just like Jello, no shit

I can’t lay claim to knowing what living brains feel like. Freshly dead brains, however, I have played with much experience with. They are a good bit firmer than jello. More like medium firm tofu. I haven’t sliced much tofu but that’s the closest thing to slicing freshly dead brains I know of.

Whingnut brains in particular are very similar to tofu.

when evolution does a raw blink of Hara Kiri Rock

Nerd!

No, C&P doesn’t make you better than us troll, but thanks for all the fish.

Cut and paste has been…………….. (removes sunglasses) ………………cut

The Whackyweedia has some entries on classical team sports, episkyros and harpastum; one searches them in vain for any allusions to martial training. Perhaps those liberal Whackyweedia editors deleted them all.

Those sound a lot like calcio storico.

Idiot is someone who vainly tries to post here and can’t stay away from this snark blog.

Have a good life, cowboi.

I can’t lay claim to knowing what living brains feel like. Freshly dead brains, however, I have much experience with. They are a good bit firmer than jello. More like medium firm tofu. I haven’t sliced much tofu but that’s the closest thing to slicing freshly dead brains I know of.

Damn, now I’m jonesing a taco de sesos.

Speaking of pro sports, the Starcraft 2 world championships just wrapped up.

I find the gameplay videos addictive … the e-sportscasting is kinda funny, and totally necessary to understand what’s going on. (I don’t play this game well, or against humans, or at the fastest speed against a tough AI for that matter.)

Speaking of pro sports, the Starcraft 2 world championships just wrapped up.

I played the hell out of the first one, but never got around to buying #2- I think I’ll wait until the whole game is released.

I bought SC2 when it came out, and didn’t touch it until last week … that’s how I am these days. I can manage one video game at a time, if that.

The one game I play nowadays is the free turn-based strategy game Battle for Wesnoth. The gameplay is elegant, and the graphics are very pretty. Plus, the turn-based nature of the game is a plus, one could moderate troll comments on a blog while playing the game.

Battle for Wesnoth

Interesting to see your recommendation … I DL’d that for my Linux netbook (a barely-used lark) and never played it, then for the iPad I don’t use either … it does look like something I’d really like.

Interesting to see your recommendation … I DL’d that for my Linux netbook (a barely-used lark) and never played it, then for the iPad I don’t use either … it does look like something I’d really like.

Its simple, yet elegant.and the open source nature of it has led to the growth of a sizable “modding” community

Hell, I don’t even ride a bike without a helmet.

I happen to be old school, professional and an idiot, ’cause I only don them for training rides or races (and only because of peer pressure on training rides and in racing it is a rule. Have I mentioned that I am a professional idiot?)

Haven’t yet read more than the first ‘graph of Cerb’s piece and obviously Quad B’s comment, and will add a new side and start paying attention to Danish Professional football. My QPR were relegated this past season (Meritocracy bitches!!! If only Bill Kristol or Bobo were subject, or the entirety of the commentariat what gets paid to write paeans to bullshit.)

If wingnut wanna see tough guys without helmets they will definitely wanna miss the 1969 tour de france.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k96YbCo6hf4
OK two things, there is a distracting presence in the form of a lovely lady with a captivating laugh and something I have forgotten…
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I happen to be old school, professional and an idiot, ’cause I only don them for training rides or races (and only because of peer pressure on training rides and in racing it is a rule. Have I mentioned that I am a professional idiot?)

My head is too well-shaped for me to trust it to the tender mercies of the pavement.

I wuz talkin ’bout hooman brainz, you realize.

That’s Pup, always obsessing over head.

I can’t lay claim to knowing what living brains feel like. Freshly dead brains, however, I have played with much experience with. They are a good bit firmer than jello. More like medium firm tofu. I haven’t sliced much tofu but that’s the closest thing to slicing freshly dead brains I know of.

I can’t link to anything, because I read this on a slice of dead tree a long time ago, and I can’t even remember if it was Dean Falk or Michael Corballis, but they talked about how quickly after death the brain turned gray (from pink), stiffened up, and shrank down so that the large discrepancy in the sizes of the hemispheres barely showed any more.

As far as the captivating laugh possessor, I felt compelled to remark…I described her laugh as “delicious” which was not the word I was looking for (which I explained to relieve the creepiness factor-totally not trying for creepy.)

I am sure that you all have met someone whose laugh would automatically put a smile on your face…This was one of those. Anywho she did give me a wave and a smile as she left the building.

Battery about to die…Gotta run. Couple things…Great post Cerb. Thanks Mods! And to the rest of you guys, I love reading you….

xoxox
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My head is too well-shaped for me to trust it to the tender mercies of the pavement.

It is a pretty dome if your picture is accurate…
😉
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It is a pretty dome if your picture is accurate…

100% Bastard, baby!

That’s why I’ve never had the courage to go bald—haven’t got the skull for it. I’d look like Hoss Cartwright.

My head is too well-shaped for me to trust it to the tender mercies of the pavement.

Saw a couple on a motorcycle yesterday. Shorts, t-shirts, flip-flops, no helmets.

One good slide and they’d be the poster children for skin-graft research.

Haven’t read the comments yet, but as someone who was on the receiving end of a metric fuckton of dodgeballs all I can say is fuck this bastard sideways with a splitting maul.

We had this game in high school that they called “team handball”.

Hard to describe but it was almost like dodgeball meets soccer except played indoors.

There were two teams and you had to get someone into position to throw this painfully hard ball (slightly bigger than a softball) through a hockey goal that was being defended by the other team.

Some of the bigger kids could throw that ball at about the speed of a major league fastball.

I don’t recall the goaltenders wearing protective gear of any sort either.

I recall there being many injuries. Probably why nobody else has ever heard of this game.

Major Kong-

OH MY BOB! Handball! I used to travel to watch women’s handball in Denmark. It was awesome because unlike American women’s sports, the women’s handball teams went all out to court their lesbian fans and show their appreciation. Which was probably pretty important seeing as how at least a quarter of the fans were lesbians. It was like ice hockey meets basketball and it was totally fucking AWESOME! I still have that team scarf as well, picked up in a game in a town so tiny I could probably have thrown a ball from one end to the other without breaking a sweat. And…

Uh. I mean, I’m a nerd who only likes nerd things…

Broomball, however is fun since everyone has a stick (think of a straw broom cut down to the string and dipped in urethane) and you all have the same disadvantage of trying to go on ice in Sorel boots. I would tape a couple of magazines on my shins because OW.

My wife’s a Dane, and I can’t escape handball coverage during an Olympiad. It’s the national sport, and they’re frightfully good at it. I remember playing it in high school PE during the winter when it was too cold to go outside (unless you had skis), only we used a volleyball, which was a slightly larger circumference.

I rate for AaB Fodbold.

That’s why I’ve never had the courage to go bald—haven’t got the skull for it
Turns out that if one shaves one’s head, while retaining the straggly beard, the result closely resembles a rutabaga.

And of course my ancestors once used a lacrosse game to take a British fort:
The Ojibwe in the region resented British policies as harsh. On June 2, 1763, as part of the larger movement known as Pontiac’s Rebellion, a group of Ojibwe staged a game of baaga’adowe (a forerunner of modern lacrosse) outside the fort as a ruse to gain entrance. After gaining entrance to the fort, they killed most of the British inhabitants and held the fort for a year before the British retook it with the provision to offer more and better gifts to the native inhabitants of the area.

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Michilimackinac

That’s a great story, S. C.

If they’re your ancestors, perhaps you could answer this for me… “Ojibwe” is a new spelling for me, but I’ve seen “Ojibway”, “Ojibwa”, “Chippeway”, “Chippewa”, and probably more. Is “Ojibwe” the new—I don’t want to use the term “politically correct” after that copypasta crap from before—but shall we say preferred spelling nowadays?

Team handball – what a wonderful sport!

It’s not that popular in the United States, but it is huge in Europe, and there are also good teams in northern Africa, Brazil, and South Korea. Here are some places to watch games:

http://ehftv.com
http://www.youtube.com/ehfeuro

However, referring to American football as “rugby with pads” is a bit unfair to rugby. The latter sport has amateur “old boys” leagues for players over 40. Japan’s Sadayoshi Morita and England’s Desmond Pastore both played in recreational leagues after they turned 90. I doubt there’s anything like it in American football.

Rev, it varies from band to band. I’ve seen an old dictionary where it was spelled Otchipway and Chippewa is kind of an older term but my band uses it officially. We are mostly pretty chill with either but most now prefer Ojibwe.

Major Kong – My condolences.

I just saw the news that two of your colleagues died when they crashed on approach to Birmingham

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/14/us/alabama-cargo-plane-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Oh my. First I heard of this. I don’t work for “Brown” but I know a lot of guys that do.

S. cerevisiae, If your band plays ‘ the rock music’ I wanna listen. If your band was a part of Pre-Columbian Amercia…Fucking cool.

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I am astounded by Peggy “it would be irresponsible not to speculate” Noonan’s ability to pack SO MUCH nasty, racist, attack into so few words.

Let me suggest a classy Obama move that might go over well.

Obama isn’t capable of being classy.

From his Vineyard vacation spot

Uppity nigger.

he should have the press office issue a release saying his reaction to finding out a rodeo clown was rudely spoofing him, was, “So what?”

Acting out a routine in blackface and calling for the President to be “run down by a bull” is just “rudely spoofing.

Say he loves free speech, including inevitably derision directed at him,

C’mon Obama – be a doormat, that’d be CLASSY!

and he does not wish for the Missouri state fair to fire the guy,

Obama should embrace racism with all the enthusiasm of the racists.

and hopes those politicians (unctuously, excessively, embarrassingly) damning the clown and the crowd

Just have to laugh there. Attendees at the event say it was “like a KKK rally.” Who’s the unctuous one now, Piggy?

would pipe down and relax. This would be graceful and nice, wouldn’t it?

No, it would be enabling them. And hold this thought: it’s “those politicians” who are condemning the vile act.

He would never do it.

Why can’t he just be a good nigger?

He gives every sign of being a person who really believes he shouldn’t be made fun of,

Riiiiight, by, for example, completely ignoring this bullshit. Oh wait, because “those politicians” decry the overt racism and hatred and call for violence, and Obama typically ignores such things, that’s indication that he “really believes he shouldn’t be made fun of.”

and if he is it’s probably racially toned, because why else would you make fun of him?

Obama is the REAL racist!

Astonishing.

We had this game in high school that they called “team handball”.

Hard to describe but it was almost like dodgeball meets soccer except played indoors.

We had a couple of units of team handball in gym class. I think there was a concerted effort to try to establish the sport here because it’s an Olympic sport. It’s huge in Iceland.

He gives every sign of being a person who really believes he shouldn’t be made fun of,

Wha? The guy has a pretty self-deprecating sense of humor.

I watched a little team handball during the Olympics. It looked interesting but I could not make heads or tails of it.

Peggy Noonan gives every sign of being a useless, drunken cooze who blows goats.

Now I think she should publicly say she forgives me because she loves free speech, including inevitably derision directed at her. This would be graceful and nice, wouldn’t it?

he should have the press office issue a release saying his reaction to finding out a rodeo clown was rudely spoofing him, was, “So what?”

Nothing says “so what?” like issuing a press release on your vacation, it’s so much more nonchalant than just ignoring it.

Why DOES the NY Times have so many toolbags on it’s OP-ED staff? Does anyone at the paper actually read this stuff?

The Odd Boy lay down by the football field
Took out a slim volume of Mallarme
The centre-forward called him an imbecile
It’s an Odd Boy who doesn’t like sport
Sport, sport, masculine sport
Equips a young man for Society,
Yes, sport turns out a jolly good sort
It’s an Odd Boy who doesn’t like sport

Big Bad Bald Bastard — wraps don’t add a ton of weight, actually. My set weighs a few ounces tops, though I could see it getting a bit heavier with the sweat and all after a long session.

The mass of the glove itself, tho…

Re: handball– is this anything like the handball us city kids have? I don’t remember goals, just bouncing it off a wall like raquetball.

Re: handball– is this anything like the handball us city kids have?

I think this game was quite different. “Handball” uses a small rubber ball that’s maybe the size of a tennis ball or slightly smaller.

“Team handball” didn’t bear much resemblance and about all it had in common was the name.

It used a ball that was a little bigger than a softball and looked a lot like a miniature soccer ball. You had two teams, though I forget how many on each team. It was played indoors in a gymnasium. Each team had a hockey-style goal that was defended by a goalie. The object was to get the ball through the other team’s goal.

There were probably more rules to the game, but I recall it quickly degenerating into “Throw the ball as hard as you possibly can and attempt to take out the goalie”.

Re: handball– is this anything like the handball us city kids have? I don’t remember goals, just bouncing it off a wall like raquetball.

We used to play a particularly sadistic variant called “butts up”. When your opponent scored a point, you’d have to put your hands against the wall and your opponent would get to throw the ball at your ass.

Yeah, i thought so. Handball for me was the small rubber ball, I guess a re-purposed raquetball. Two people. Us New Yorkers still play it (you can see them do it down by West 4th street)

Us New Yorkers still play it (you can see them do it down by West 4th street)

There’s a big handball/raquetball/paddleball court on the east side Van Cortlandt Park north of 233rd St as well.

Got me thinking about a game we used to play against the front stairs called Pinners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinners

kg, your link has a link to a page about “butts up”.

Thank you, oh yeasty one, for the heads-up on “Ojibwe” from an insider. Actually, I’ve always used “Ojibwa”, which is what Bloomfield called the language, so I wasn’t too far off.

kg, your link has a link to a page about “butts up”.

We never played that one. There was a game called “kill the guy with the ball” or sometimes called “smear the queer” that was quite popular.

Norfolk is such a hot bed of progressive feminism:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/13/virginia-citys-rape-policy-was-assume-the-victim-is-lying-until-last-week/

I heard on the radio the other morning that even people who’ve played major league baseball for five or more years have a substantially increased risk of ALS or dementia. Baseball players don’t get nearly the number of recurrent traumatic brain injuries professional football players do.

Shorter Birdnow: Other men getting brain damage makes my dick feel bigger.

Asshole.

Re: handball in NYC: not just big city. The guys in my suburban coastal SoCal town played the version with a ball slightly smaller than a tennis ball (but nekkid – the ball, not the players, sheesh!) on a three sided court at school. Away from school, I think any wall served as a court.

Shorter Birdnow: Other men getting brain damage makes my dick feel bigger.

Asshole.

“My pants are tight!”

We never played that one. There was a game called “kill the guy with the ball” or sometimes called “smear the queer” that was quite popular.

We called it “kill the carrier”. We played a team version of it which got pretty crazy. It’s a miracle we survived childhood.

The guys in my suburban coastal SoCal town played the version with a ball slightly smaller than a tennis ball (but nekkid – the ball, not the players, sheesh!)

Probably a pink Spalding ball, a “spaldeen” in NY parlance.

the fact is, this man is correct. Liberals love to pussify America so we loose to terrorism, as well as make fag values mainstream. I will fighte for freedom and against the bias in the media and the Obama free money racehusting slave revolt machine with all of my breathe.

Liberals are also hardly the ones to claim to suposeldy represent USA values. Conservative and God values are number one here in the heatland.

We called it “kill the carrier”. We played a team version of it which got pretty crazy. It’s a miracle we survived childhood.

My brother and his friends played something they called “killball.” Mom hated it because he kept tearing the knees out of his (school) pants playing it,

he should have the press office issue a release saying his reaction to finding out a rodeo clown was rudely spoofing him, was, “So what?”

So Noonan reckons that she would think better of Obama if he abused his position to intervene in a private employment issue between an entertainer and an entertainment organiser?
Sometimes I wonder whether Noonan is being entirely sincere.

I will fighte for freedom and against the bias in the media and the Obama free money racehusting slave revolt machine with all of my breathe.

Aw, and we so wanted to start the pussification on you, if you know what I mean and you probably don’t but we can explain it with small words, pictures and, when necessary, acting it out.

There’s handball, which is similar to racquetball or squash, just without the racquet. But team handball is completely different.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6RcTHNlxto

And real men play football without all those silly pads.

we can explain it with small words, pictures and, when necessary, acting it out.

Gary, show us on the doll where tigris touched you.

So when Gus Grissom taped the “No handball playing in this area” notice on John Young’s dashboard on Gemini 3, what type of game was prohibited?

So Noonan reckons that she would think better of Obama if he abused his position to intervene in a private employment issue between an entertainer and an entertainment organiser?

I neglected to mention that the rodeo was put on by the fucking state of Missouri, using taxpayer money. Which fact, while it makes your comment moot, also makes Pegger’s comments even more bizarre.

And real men play football without all those silly pads.

I’m gonna guess that those guys don’t get the kinds (or frequency) of brain injury American football players do.

Conservative and God values are number one here in the heatland.

I guess it’s the heat-land because of global warming?

Handball, for me, has always been the game that was sometimes played by Culp (and or Cosby?) on I Spy. I wonder if Nooners was in favor of the many southern stations that refused to air the show (Cosby in the first starring role for an African-American on teevee.) Imma bet she was.

Gary, show us on the doll gimp suit where tigris touched you.

Fixxerated.

I’m gonna guess that those guys don’t get the kinds (or frequency) of brain injury American football players do.

Hitting above the shoulders or below the knees is illegal. It still happens sometimes, but seldom with the kind of force to do serious injury.

Gary, show us on the doll where tigris touched you.

Ewww! Tigris, go wash your hands.

And real men play football without all those silly pads.

That’s how I dislocated my shoulder in college. Playing tackle football with no pads.

I got smarter.

Gary, show us on the doll where tigris touched you.

You’ll have to give him a quarter for him to really show you what I did.

All you Notre Americanos are a buncha damn ,soft, liberal pussies. Back in my day, in Chechen Itza, we played ball for heads!

KNIGHT JUMPS QUEEN!

Climate change explained in lay terms FINALLY

You’re welcome.

Es ‘Chichén’ cabroncito.

Es ‘Chichén’ cabroncito.

Huh. I guess Chechen Itza is somewhere in the Caucasus. Not very well known, of course.

Gary, show us on the doll where tigris touched you.

Shirley you mean “show us on the Pillsbury Doughboy”.

Es ‘Chichén’ cabroncito.

Mmmmmm… chicken carbonara… uhhhhhhhhhhhhh…

tsam’s crazy person: Look, it wasn’t just a few years ago, what was the problem that existed? It wasn’t global warming, we were gonna all be an ice cube. We’re not ice cubes.

😮

Since we were discussing nuclear waste the other day: what does everybody think of this?

Supposedly you fuel it with natural uranium and/or thorium, it produces and burns its own plutonium in situ, will transmute existing nuclear waste, and could run subcritical with supplementary neutrons from an external accelerator.

Shirley you mean “show us on the Pillsbury Doughboy”.

Perhaps you’ve said too much.

Watch Jessica Williams and John Oliver demonstrate how fucking stupid right wingers are.

Brilliant.

If this is even HALF true…

If this is even HALF true…

I suspect it’s more a case of “They don’t know the HALF of it.”

If this is even HALF true…

Yeah, that is scary. I’ve been agnostic so far on this whole NSA spying thing, but I’m reaching my skeeviness tipping point.

Some footbag friends enjoy Sepak takraw. Looks kinda difficult. Like volleyball but you hafta use your feet!

The fact is, liberals should just shut up. We are tired of hearing about how opressed blacks and gays are, what about whites? and men? they are having the PC police on their back just for telling the truth, and soon are world will be run by the unfit, who got there by affirmative action and pc bullying.

OK, how many of you heathen O-bots would fucking love to have this poster: http://wonkette.com/525674/third-rate-teevee-preacher-tells-all-obama-is-possessed-by-demons-and-thats-why-we-have-the-nsa

I’d love it just to freak out wingnut relatives and Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The very reverend, I checked out that link, it looks a lot better than reactors of a similar nature that have been designed to use molten sodium, which is a much more dangerous substance to use when it comes to heat exchange.

That poster is great. I’d kind of like to see Obama on an X-Men sentinel.

Satire, how the f*ck does that work?

Portland gots a psycho on the loose.

OT, WWE superstar Darren Young stuns reporter. its at TMZ so I won’t Linky.

Some asshat in r/Portland was going on in the thread about that saying THERES NO THREAT ITS GOVERNMENT OPPRESSION etc.

Should have been “OnT”. I apologize for any inconvenience I may have caused.

OT, WWE superstar Darren Young stuns reporter. its at TMZ so I won’t Linky.

It’s on Raw Story too, so get to linking, lazybones!

“A democracy can only exist until the corporations discover that they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.”

And real men play football without all those silly pads.

True story: It was the mid ’80’s and a friend of mine and I having caught a good buzz, were perusing the mid afternoon offerings on the TV. ESPN was still young but had increased their hours of airtime and would introduce us occasionally to crazy shit like Australian Rules Football.

Took me the better part of an hour to work out the scoring and get a handle on the rules of the game. Given that the announcers were the original Aussi’s the commentary was directed to people in possession of a clue about the game and not us, the uninitiated, so was of little help. Was a wonderful way to blow off a summer afternoon…

Thanks for the memories. To this day I will always stop for a few minutes if i come across a TV with ARF playing.
…

And real men play football without all those silly pads.

Actually, real men don’t put conditions on being a “real man”. Unless you’re down with the whole “Real men love Jesus” thing.

Actually, real men don’t put conditions on being a “real man”.

Isn’t that a condition? 🙂

US Army: Cheap shot motherfuckers. FOAD

To this day I will always stop for a few minutes if i come across a TV with ARF playing.

ESPN got me hooked enough that I now pay a subscription fee to watch all the games on the intertubes. My GF is now hooked as well and we are traveling to Ft. Lauderdale this weekend to watch the Ft Lauderdale Fighting Squids take on the Houston Lonestars in a USAFL match. It won’t be quite the quality of play and the facilities are far more primitive, but it will be fun to see a game live and it’s an excuse to get out of town for the weekend. Although we are well past that “spring breaker” age there are still places in Ft Lauderdale for old folks like us to get a little crazy:

http://www.butterflyworld.com/

Isn’t that a condition? 🙂

It is. But I get to do that because US AMERCIAN EKCEPTIONALIZM

Isn’t that a condition? 🙂

Now he’s going to hit you with his purse.

TB, I had no Idea that there was a US league. Cool. Enjoy your trip.
…

TB, I had no Idea that there was a US league.

We even have a national team which recently beat the national team of our rowdy northern neighbors.
https://usafl.com/news/2013/08/04/usa-revolution-retain-49th-parallel-cup
Although the Canadian women’s team whipped our women’s team.

Although the Canadian women’s team whipped our women’s team.

O_O

Although the Canadian women’s team whipped our women’s team.

Newsletter? Web site?

Now he’s going to hit you with his purse.

Right after this…

What it was was football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNxLxTZHKM8?

Now he’s going to hit you with his purse.

A-Rod?

I’m a little broken up right now, a local pub was gutted by a fire last night.

OH ALL THOSE POOR LITTLE KEGS.

I’m a little broken up right now, a local pub was gutted by a fire last night.

Alcohol abuse!

I’m a little broken up right now, a local pub was gutted by a fire last night.

I’m truly sorry to hear that. I am, but I also just have to say, in the tradition of internet memery, fire up the barrooms.

a local pub was gutted by a fire last night.

DISCOUNT BARSTOOLS!

My esteemed brother once played rugby for the state of California. Oh, the pride ! the glory!
This was back in the 80s when the only rugby players in LA were expat SAfricans, Aussies & Kiwis. Which is how my lil bro who was a high school player found himself representing the state.

From Top Five Tips For Keeping a Band Together 30 Years
By Dale Crover of The Melvins

Kick someone out.
We’ve watched lots of successful bands at the top of their game break up because they can’t get along with each other (Soundgarden, I’m looking at you). Usually it’s one member of the band causing all the problems. Most likely it’s the bass player. Just kick them out and start fresh. We’ve done it numerous times.

(do follow the link to Willy Week, the photo is fabulous)

He’s right except he means to say ‘electric bass guitar’. Different from a bass player.

Somewhere I have a photo of me in my tux at the Beverly Hills Four Seasons with one of those Melvins electric bass guitarists he fired. it was a good wedding, can’t remember his name.

Funny, because the bass player is almost always the problem

Back when I played electric it was always the drummer. Now I’m in a genre w/o drums or electric bass guitars things are much easier.

The linked article is noxious, but your crowing about the accepting nature of European football is ridiculous. Football hooligans are some of the most racist, homophobic, vile punks around, and I’m pretty sure you know this.

When is the last time an NFL player gave a Nazi salute?

When is the last time the stands of an NFL stadium were close due to racist chants?

When was the last time an NFL game was STOPPED because the racist chants from the stands were so bad?

That’s what I fucking thought.

Doug said,

August 16, 2013 at 0:55 (kill)

And your point would be …?

Funny, because the bass player is almost always the problem

HEY!

And El Manqefurrinsoundingname I’ve got my eye on you…

My point would be this passage:

“Maybe it’s because my history with sports fandom has mostly circled around European football, which clearly is completely pussy seeing as how gay families and trannies can feel safe in the stands watching it”

Is stupid. If you’re going to take the piss out of football fans (or your perception of football fans as preening, insecure, racist, uncaring of others’ wellbeing) it might make a stronger argument to acknowledge the horrendously racist state of your OWN favorite passtime.

Or, y’know, just keep going for the easy jokes. Whatever.

Beware of Doug. He thinks “European football” means soccer. Them’s soccer hooligans yer talking about, you twatwaffle.

… um, I thought Cerb was referring to soccer too. Is she talking about European leagues playing American-style (“gridiron”) football? Or rugby?

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Yep, I’ve been kill-filed here by everyone but you. I’m glad you’re here to keep Doug and I company on this thread.

Most likely it’s the bass player.

Kicking out the wonderful Joe Preston was a bad idea. I love The Melvins, but they’re kinda assholes.

I figured Cerb knows about soccer, soccer hooligans, and would have said soccer, not European football, if she didn’t mean European football.

I figured Cerb knows about soccer, soccer hooligans, and would have said soccer, not European football

Cerb is explicit about her devotion being to “my beloved Danish Superliga”, i.e. very soccer (and one more excuse to open a bottle of Akvavit from time to time).

The jerk I knew was Preston’s replacement.

BBBetc. wrote:

There’s nothing manly about a grievous head injury, but there’s something inherently conservative about it.

That slew me.

Yep, only allowed to dip my toe in the Hot Tub, whist your eternal meltdown here continues.

Thanks for playing.

At least Doug hasn’t been group-killfiled, DA

Give him some time, he’ll be a pro like you in 6 months or less, or double your money back.

You know what they call American football in Europe?

They call it American football.

The European football league is a soccer league. How is this up for debate?

I ain’t from Alabama but I read the Mobile Register once a week. It’s a Newhouse special, corrupt in a natural resources/nasty industry/post-Rove elected court kinda way.

Anyway, point being that the comments in the Mobile Register looks like this (2:20am EST):

1. Alabama running back controversy

2. Auburn corner back controversy

3. Auburn quarter back feature

4. Eric Holder’s drug sentencing policies

5-10. Various football discussions

I think I’ve made your point. I’m going to get back to watching Vikings. Ragnar’s still in his ponytail stage.

Kicking out the wonderful Joe Preston was a bad idea. I love The Melvins, but they’re kinda assholes.

I’ve heard that about them, though I think it’s rather rare to have a group of guys who aren’t preening cunts in a band. In my very limited experience with bands, which consists mostly of playing in cover bands in clubs (which are essentially devoid of “artistic differences”), I’ve encountered about 10 cool people and 100 irredeemable pricks. Misogynist, self-important douchebags who think their vision of being in a cover band is some sort of artistic triumph.

The other weird thing about the “kick out the bass player” approach with The Melvins was that Buzz dictated every note played for all of them, and made them play clean (no distortion). Maybe that’s no longer the case but I doubt it. You can’t really blame the bass player for much if all of them do everything you ask…

Misogynist pricks is misandrist, amirite?

/s

You can’t really blame the bass player for much if all of them do everything you ask…

Actually, the interpersonal dynamics in bands are dysfunctional by nature. The instrument means nearly nothing. I just jumped on this one because my bass player at the moment is an exemplary douchebag.

Sure, but there’s Buzz and Dale and twelve bass players over the years. Supposing all things about bass players are true – heaven forbid I would suggest that they aren’t – not many bands find they have to go through that many of them.

Sure, but there’s Buzz and Dale and twelve bass players over the years

WOW–I had no idea there were that many. Statistically, seems like 6 of those 12 would have been pretty decent dudes/ladies.

to further the football helmet debate is this…tim green, who is ‘against’ is a perfect example of why football needs helmets…

a perfect example of why football needs helmets…

It has been my contention for years that, with today’s technology and materials, they should be able to make helmets and shoulder pads that provide as much protection for the wearer as the current design that do not have a hard outer shell. I realize that this will take away the pretty, shiny helmet logo, but it will also take away what amounts to a dangerous weapon.

I realize that this will take away the pretty, shiny helmet logo,

There you have it. When Dad explained to 12 yo me why soccer (a sport I understood and enjoyed playing) would never be as popular on US teevees as football (a sport that bored me silly), it was very simple. The frequent breaks in the game allowed for more efficient and dependable insertion of ads. Period. And Dad was a football fan.

It has been my contention for years that, with today’s technology and materials, they should be able to make helmets and shoulder pads that provide as much protection for the wearer as the current design that do not have a hard outer shell. I realize that this will take away the pretty, shiny helmet logo, but it will also take away what amounts to a dangerous weapon.

That’s what I’ve been thinking too…pad the helmet both inside AND outside. It would be much more difficult to use it as a weapon that way, although you could still whiplash your opponent by smacking them under the facemask.

I believe with modern plastics tech you could still get the fancy helmet design, even with the shiny for the particularly feeble-minded fans.

I believe with modern plastics tech you could still get the fancy helmet design, even with the shiny for the particularly feeble-minded fans.

Undoubtedly. Look at today’s bicycle helmets – basically styrofiam with a shiny film applied. It would probably reduce neck injuries, too – if player’s heads aren’t encased in a hard shell, the temptation to use them as battering rams with legs should be reduced.

hahahaha…ick…this is just the top of the mangoes:

willmay
•7 days ago
I see the NFL is tightening the screws further on its “celebrations” restrictions. Why don’t they just roll out the robots? I stopped watching NFL years ago when they started this kind of PC leftist control freakishness. I’m a huge NHL fan now. When I see NHL players, I see me, something I can hardly say about NFL’s or NBA’s.

BubbasBBQ> willmay
•7 days ago
Even the NHL isn’t what it used to be. The fighting all looks like WWE events now.

Alej> willmay
•7 days ago
And I stopped watching the NFL when players making a touchdown spent the next 45 seconds doing genital thrusts at the end zone crowd, or when defensive tacklers got up and did a Micheal Jackson moonwalk in self-adulation. Back in the day, a player modestly walked back to the huddle with his head down (discretely smiling inside his helmet) after making a great play, and his teammates did the congratulatory backslapping.

That was before integration.

willmay> Alej
•7 days ago
Agree with your point of view, too.

I find myself also watching more Australian football: no or little gear, constant motion, . . and, like you said it was before in American football, when they score, they simply put the ball down and return to their teammates for a pat on the back. When I see Australian football players, I see me. (last line speaks to your last line)

back in the day, there was modesty in football…

The bigger problem is the culture of the game. It starts at the Pop Warner level. They teach the idea that big hit will make receivers alligator arm the next ball that comes over the middle. While that’s very true, the tackling fundamentals are basically ignored. You can’t helmet ram a guy like that or lay the wood with your shoulder if you actually wrap a guy up and tackle him. It’s hard to change that culture when the coaches were brought up that way.

When I see NHL players, I see me, something I can hardly say about NFL’s or NBA’s

If you see yourself, that’s a mirror, not an NHL player.

also, too…it strikes me that smiling discretely would be hard to do…

alligator arm?

If the problem is helmet-first tackles, then ban helmet-first tackles. Make it a ninety yard penalty and automatic ejection from the game, if not the season. If you’re looking to design a helmet to reduce concussions – do what the carmakers do. Crumple zones. The helmet should break (and absorb a ton of energy when they do) if it is subjected to that much force. You could make the breaking of the helmet the grounds for calling a spearing penalty. And then you could sell broken helmets to fans at ridiculously exorbitant prices.

Personally, I think the moar American solution is to give the ball carrier a handgun and then let him shoot anyone who gets in his way.

Statistically, seems like 6 maybe 2 of those 12 would have been pretty decent dudes/ladies.

Adjusted because we are talking about bass players after all.

the tackling fundamentals are basically ignored.

It’s like you’re in my living room listening to me rant at nearly every game.

“It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team’s end line). Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul.”

15 yard penalty. Baby steps?

seriously, what is alligator arm? is it worse than the heartbreak of psoriasis?

Personally, I think the moar American solution is to give the ball carrier a handgun and then let him shoot anyone who gets in his way.

fair enough…

I don’t get soccer because nothing happens and there is usually NO SCORE and the game is decided by penalty kicks. Borrrrrrrring. Though I do like the uniforms better – I like to SEE the guys. IYKWIMAITYD

Speaking of tackle boxes, our mayor rescued a neighbouring city’s mayor from being pulled into the murky depths of Lake Ontario by some evil killer hippie leftist socialest salmon. See, I don’t only report bad stuff about Rob Ford.

seriously, what is alligator arm?

It’s under-reaching for a ball that’s been passed way out front or above your head because it leaves you exposed to a hard hit by a large linebacker or cornerback. The receiver kind of snaps at the ball rather than extending themselves and their arms.

Fun facts:
In Australian football there is no straight arm, it’s called a don’t argue.
They don’t block, they shepherd.
And when a young player plays in his first AFL game he makes his debut, which is pronounced day-boo.

If the problem is helmet-first tackles, then ban helmet-first tackles.

They have. It has reduced it some, but not enough. They’ve been using fines and possible suspensions. It did nothing to stop super asshole dickface James Harrison, linebacker for the worst team EVER, the Pittsburgh Steelers. They are also well known for having a rapist quarterback.

Same fucking asshole, better example of the helmet to helmet, leading with the helmet type of contact that will eventually kill someone on the field.

our mayor rescued a neighbouring city’s mayor from being pulled into the murky depths of Lake Ontario

why is rob ford wearing a suit when he’s out fishing?

That was before integration.

But he’s not a racist, some of his best friends were from after he was forced to integrate.

and thanks for the explan on alligator arm…makes sense now…

But he’s not a racist, some of his best friends were from after he was forced to integrate.

what’s even worse though, than the blacks getting to play sports? girls! yes, title 9 gets whined about later in the stream o’mangoes…

I find myself also watching more Australian football: no or little gear, constant motion, . . and, like you said it was before in American football, when they score, they simply put the ball down and return to their teammates for a pat on the back.

I’m not sure what this guy is watching, but it’s not footy. To score in Australian football you have to kick the ball between the posts. It’s pretty difficult to simply put the ball down after you’ve just kicked it into the stands.

they should be able to make helmets and shoulder pads that provide as much protection for the wearer as the current design that do not have a hard outer shell

Also too, they should be bright pink.

seriously, what is alligator arm?

It’s under-reaching for a ball that’s been passed way out front or above your head because it leaves you exposed to a hard hit by a large linebacker or cornerback. The receiver kind of snaps at the ball rather than extending themselves and their arms.

Tee hee, before now I’ve only heard it to refer to people who never pick up the check at restaurants, the image being that their tiny arms can’t reach their wallets.

Honestly tigris, I really wanted to pay for my share of the bill.

They have. It has reduced it some, but not enough.

Then as I suggested eariler – go with the Second Amendment Remedy.

why is rob ford wearing a suit when he’s out fishing?

He wears suits a lot. I think maybe an image consultant suggested the look to him sometime a few years ago, and he’s decided to stick with it. The other bit of Rob Ford news this week is that he escaped his handlers, got loaded on beers and then wandered around about a mile east of a local street festival. He did that wearing the suit too (and Crocs).

Tyannosaurus Rex said,

YOU we expected to put out.

tsam said,

August 16, 2013 at 20:53 (kill)

Poor poor tsam. He’s got some kind of Stockholm syndrome thing wrt the Seattle team, whatever their name is I can’t remember so who cares?

Or, how about a Reality TV solution. Every season, some number of colleges get dropped from their divisions. Which college that is is determined by the number of injuries inflicted to other teams. There’ll be Immunity Challenges which involve eating gross food like live bugs or something. And then the girl voted “Hottest Cheerleader” by the Internet polling gets a record deal

He did that wearing the suit too (and Crocs).

really, it’s the crocs what are the unforgiveable offense…although i now have to wear them about the house because stupid diabetes…

Poor poor tsam. He’s got some kind of Stockholm syndrome thing wrt the Seattle team, whatever their name is I can’t remember so who cares?

Yes. I am still angry about that Super Bowl.

I also just hate the fucking Steelers–mostly because of their tweaker bandwagon fans.

I consider the Dallas Cowboys to be the center of all evil in the known universe.

I consider the Dallas Cowboys to be the center of all evil in the known universe.

I did until 2006. The Steelers will never be replaced by another team on my hate list.

‘Murica continues it’s downward spiral

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/428601/august-14-2013/people-who-are-destroying-america—johnny-cummings

But yeah–Lakers, Yankees and Cowboys. The Holy Trinity of Douchebaggery.

Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2013 at 21:11

they should be able to make helmets and shoulder pads that provide as much protection for the wearer as the current design that do not have a hard outer shell
Also too, they should be bright pink.

Thanks for the Married With Children flashback, Smut!

Al and his Polk High teammates got a chance to replay the last game of their series with their arch-rivals, whose original name I can’t remember, because it had in the interim changed to “Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis High School”—team name: the “First Ladies”. It was really amusing watching all the famous NFL players they brought in as ringers in their new pink uniforms.

Additionally, Polk High’s quarterback had since become a woman…then hilarity ensues, blah, blah, bah.

Sadly for poor Mayor Ford, he never made it to Taste of the Danforth. His staff rounded him up at Jones Ave. and the festival was only west of Pape. So he ended up drunk-staggering 3/4 of the way there in those Crocs.

That patch of Danforth just east of Pape is pretty neat though. Square Boy is an old school burger joint that’s been there since forever. Danforth Dragon is a Hakka place that I’ve heard good things about (not that I care since I live in Hakka rich Scarborough Centre). I’ve been to Burrito House and thought it was pretty good, but the reviews I’ve read indicate that maybe there’s some problems with consistently delivering good burritos. And a little bit further east is The Only Cafe.

Helmets could be made with an outer layer filled with shear thickening fluid. That would distribute the force over a larger area and also make for a more elastic-like collision. But that would never fly because there’d be no satisfying “THWACK!” when two guys are bashing each other’s brains into mush. Also, they’d be pink.

I think helmets should have a pressure switch. You hit too hard with it, it shocks the player with enough intensity to make them piss their spandex pants.

I mentioned in casual conversation to my idiot BIL that I wouldn’t be comfortable with my son (who is only 3 now mind you) playing very much tackle football (in grade school or HS) and now idiot BIL thinks I’m worse than hitler and that my son is going to be the biggest pansy evah.

I think helmets should have a pressure switch. You hit too hard with it, it shocks the player with enough intensity to make them piss their spandex pants.

This defeats the purpose of reducing the effects of cumulative trauma. What they need is airbags linked to accelerometers. Once the acceleration on a given body part exceeds a trigger value, full body airbags should deploy. What they should look like is open for debate, I can’t decide whether a Michelin man style suit or zorb style ball would be the most effective. of course to protect the other players from the danger of rapid airbag deployment, they should send out a signal to deploy all of the other airbag safety equipped uniforms within a set radius.

kg,

Don’t know whether it will help to point out that rugby is HUGELY popular in the gay community. Fucking pansies!

Also, Mark Bingham. What a fucking limp-wristed pansy fag!

I can’t decide whether a Michelin man style suit or zorb style ball would be the most effective

Teletubbies.

send out a signal to deploy all of the other airbag safety equipped uniforms within a set radius.

They should add a special scoring option for that. I’m not sure if it should be points awarded for degree of entropy produced on the field, or if it should then go to a pool-like model.

send out a signal to deploy all of the other airbag safety equipped uniforms within a set radius.

The Europeans are already ahead of us there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIl45f6i1PU

Sounds like illegal boinging. That’s 10 years in the isocubes, citizen.

Okay, it’s after 5 o’clock so I can safely say happy national rum day!!!

http://liquor.com/celebrate/national-rum-day/

Pupienus,
Thx for the tip (!) This idiot, however is immune to logic or snark.
Had plans to drink beer but now I’ll have to check if we have any rum.
John Hiatt on the radio, long weekend in front of me, kg is a lucky boy.

I wouldn’t be comfortable with my son (who is only 3 now mind you) playing very much tackle football (in grade school or HS) and now idiot BIL thinks I’m worse than hitler and that my son is going to be the biggest pansy evah.

Funny thing about kids, they tend to gravitate toward what they want to do. My boy was just never into stick-and-ball sports; I just had to suck it up and live with the fact that we’d never play much catch in the yard. On the other hand he took to a bicycle like a duck to water and now easily rides my ass into the ground.

I wouldn’t call him a pansy either. Tell idiot BIL to eat a bag of salted dicks.

Hello? Anybody there? Hmm… I guess I really AM in the isocubes. 🙁

Somehow I knew that several comments would magically appear just as I posted the isocubes comment and ruin the whole gag.

I wouldn’t call him a pansy either. Tell idiot BIL to eat a bag of salted dicks.

Oh, I have. multiple times

I guess I really AM in the isocubes

I’m in a hotel room in Dayton, across from a Walmart. Basically the same thing as an isocube.

Livin’ the dream baby!

Iso-cubes? Luxury! Our cubes had no quality control certifications. Heck, even “cube” was a generous term as “irregular polyhedral confinement” took too long to say. But we were happy then.

Thx for the tip (!)

HOT.

It has been my contention for years that, with today’s technology and materials, they should be able to make helmets and shoulder pads that provide as much protection for the wearer as the current design that do not have a hard outer shell. I realize that this will take away the pretty, shiny helmet logo, but it will also take away what amounts to a dangerous weapon.

Cars should also be softer- I’m thinking a good six-inch rubbery bumper all around the perimeter of the car. Sure, some people would want to play bumpercars on their commute to work, but there’d be a whole lot less damage to people and property.

ARGLE-BARGLE!
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Cars should also be softer- I’m thinking a good six-inch rubbery bumper all around the perimeter of the car. Sure, some people would want to play bumpercars on their commute to work, but there’d be a whole lot less damage to people and property.

Tell that to scooter boy!
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As far as I can tell, the main pastime in Dayton is to ride your Harley (with loud pipes of course) to Walmart on Friday evening.

Actually they’re probably going to one of the 10 or so chain restaurants that line the road this hotel is on.

I get tired of listening to all the road noise after a while. Even up on the 6th floor it’s quite noticeable.

I get tired of listening to all the road noise after a while. Even up on the 6th floor it’s quite noticeable.

Every time one of the local motorcycle clubs goes by, I hear it here on the 18th floor.

Your location in Dayton sounds like your own bit of hell. Or purgatory, anyway.

Your location in Dayton sounds like your own bit of hell. Or purgatory, anyway.

I bid the Dayton trip so that I can drive home on the weekend, it’s only an hour or so from my house.

It’s also a fairly easy flying schedule. One leg to Memphis and then one leg back in the morning.

Other than that it’s the typical “hotel hostage situation”, out by the interstate near a bunch of big-box stores and chain restaurants.

Other than that it’s the typical “hotel hostage situation”, out by the interstate near a bunch of big-box stores and chain restaurants.

I stay in one of those when I visit my stepmother. It’s on a frontage road, so to avoid having to make a big circle to get there from her condo (which is quite close, why I stay there), I drive through the Applebee’s and Chili’s parking lots.

It’s on a frontage road, so to avoid having to make a big circle to get there from her condo (which is quite close, why I stay there), I drive through the Applebee’s and Chili’s parking lots.

I hear Applebee’s is considering putting in a drive-through salad bar.

I get tired of listening to all the road noise after a while.

That’s why I ride a Honda PCX. 😉
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I hear Applebee’s is considering putting in a drive-through salad bar.

Bobo will be sure to be there for the opening.

That’s why I ride a Honda PCX. 😉

So you can be one with the road noise.

I’m guessing yours is pretty quiet. I’m sure the local yout’ have figured out a way to make ’em loud, just as they manage to kill themselves on their scooters, no help from other vehicles.

New post.

… though I think it’s rather rare to have a group of guys who aren’t preening cunts in a band.

Wherein tsam explains why it seems to take me ten or more years to find a reason to play again. Also too, if it has not yet been previously observed; “Preening Cunts” is one hell of a band name.
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I consider the Dallas Cowboys to be the center of all evil in the known universe.

My second favorite NFL team is anybody who is playing the Cowboys, even, reluctantly, the Steelers (whose opponent in any other game is my third favorite team.)
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what’s even worse though, than the blacks getting to play sports? girls! yes, title 9 gets whined about later in the stream o’mangoes…

It was a big mistake to ever let those women get into Go-cart racing.

I’m guessing yours is pretty quiet. I’m sure the local yout’ have figured out a way to make ‘em loud, just as they manage to kill themselves on their scooters, no help from other vehicles.

Local, as in where they’re made = Thailand? Yes. Local as in where I live = Nashville? No. I only know of one other PCX owner locally, and he’s an old fat white guy. like me.
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Local, as in where they’re made = Thailand? Yes. Local as in where I live = Nashville? 

No, neither, sorry I was unclear, local as in local to me. Many young men around here ride scooters, because they’re lower cost, to buy and to use. I imagine there’s a oretty good supply of used ones from tourist rentals. They seem to make sure they’re as loud as possible, and occasionaly have fatal accidents on them. The most recent one I know of was on one of the very few streets around here that’s wide, flat, straight, and in good repair. Any one of those is fairly unusual. I suspect it was a race.

The data is amazingl? appealing.