Are the Republicans Losing the Kook Vote?

Even though I’ve been optimistic about the Democrats’ chances in the midterm elections this fall, there’s one thing that’s kept me worried: the virtual army of illiterate nuts that Karl Rove turned out in 2004 to vote for Bush. But if this Kaye Grogan column is any indication, the illiterate nuts are in full revolt and the GOP is a deep, deep trouble:


Give me that “old time religion” . . . Republicans

Kaye Grogan
September 1, 2006

Recent polls are indicating that the Republican Party is going to have to get back to “give me that old time religion” platform — or suffer the consequences when the next election time rolls around. Right now support from Christians for the “Grand Old Party” is declining lower than the last limbo stick position.

Sounds hottt, K-Gro.

But since most of the Democrats consider Christians as right-wing co-conspirators and fanatics, it would be unwise and hopeless for them to try and woo the followers of Christ into their liberal camps. Most Christians won’t compromise and vote for who they view as the lesser of two evils just for the sake of voting — so don’t hold your breath Dems.

No, that’s fine. Just as long as you and your pals stay home on election day and bake a nice Jesus pie together, everyone’s gonna be happy.

While Christians (usually) have a forgiving nature, the Republicans have stood back refusing to effectively protect freedom of religion from the anti-God groups. Oh, once in awhile they may act like someone doused them with a bucket of ice water to jolt them back to reality long enough so they can appear productive, but once they are safely back in office they follow the godless leaders.

The Republicans are following Ba’al? Wow. They’re far cooler than I gave them credit for.

DNC Chairman Howard Dean doesn’t even bother to conceal his disdain for the Christian community. He views them as being diabolical, demonic, and overly fanatical. Dean along with several other liberal Democrats have taken over the party, and managed to crash it.

Not only is this country in deep trouble spiritually, it is suffering greatly in need of “godly” men and women with leadership abilities and qualities to look after the best interest of the United States of America. I thought President Bush was a godly man, but right now his mind has went south of the border.

I don’t know exactly why Kaye has went so disillusioned, but it’s a damn welcome site to see.

The Republicans are caught up in a very dangerous game of doing irreparable dealings behind the backs of Americans. Out in Texas Governor Rick Perry has been quietly endorsing building superhighways costing billions of dollars at the expense of taxpayers.

According to a report from WorldNet Daily, the roads will intertwine with the so-called NAFTA Superhighway. And this little project has a lot of the folks up in the air, because the United States Supreme Court paved the way for “eminent domain” to seize the property of homeowners — in the way of what some are viewing as prosperity with Mexico and Canada.

See, this is why it’s dangerous to build your political around crazy people: eventually, they’ll realize that you aren’t crazy enough for them, and they’ll move onto wingnuttier pastures (or form their own militias).

And since we were left holding a $750 billion dollar trade deficit in 2005 — of course it makes a lot of sense to continue to keep the deficit amount escalating — since most of the ones who are responsible for this incredible sell-out will be long gone with the young people left behind holding the bag.

I guess the new way to be prosperous is to pave the way to the poorhouse using expensive equipment

Gavin adds: Hey, something got cut off here. Oh shit, now I’m in trouble.

Uh…okay. Try to finish up like Brad would do. Wait. Hang on.

And since we were left holding a $750 billion dollar trade deficit in 2005 — of course it makes a lot of sense to continue to keep the deficit amount escalating — since most of the ones who are responsible for this incredible sell-out will be long gone with the young people left behind holding the bag.

Looks like YOU’RE the one holding the bag, Kaye. A bag full of this:


…Oh whew, I found the rest of Brad’s text in my RSS thing. I’ll paste it back and then I’m getting out of here before something else goes wrong. [Gav out]

I guess the new way to be prosperous is to pave the way to the poorhouse using expensive equipment on the superhighway to hell.

Next, since churches don’t pay taxes it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to hear about church worshipers being bulldozed down with church buildings to make way for Pedro’s governmental subsidized Mexican Taco Bell.

Every chalupa will be sprinkled with the blood of Christians. O the humanity!

Not only have most Republicans left their Christian base — they have completely left reality.

For those who have forgotten, this is what reality looks like:


At this point, I don’t believe even a revival could revive the Republican Party.

It’s apparent there needs to be a big revival in America, and a big shake-up in Congress. It’s time to start a new viable third party — while there is still a little hope for America. Because there is not one immediate representative I can think of who has anything to offer the American people, but the same old song and dance routine.

And it’s way past time. . . they all sat this one out.

And that’s just my opinion!

Whatever. Just please don’t ever vote again.


Comments: 64


.Out in Texas Governor Rick Perry has been quietly endorsing building superhighways costing billions of dollars at the expense of taxpayers.

OMG! They’re building Highways! In Texas! What is the world coming to???


Where’s the accompanying “Highway to Hell” video?


I’m actually starting to resent the intimation that I’m not christian.

i guess i’m a christian, and not a Christian.

Kaye is the sort of person to take you to task for forgetting to capitalize his name.

and I think the whole fucking country could do without that sort of Bullshit just now, all things considered,

but I also think Kaye and her ilk would do less damage if they just got back to freaking out over blowjobs and capitalization….

so Kaye, vote your heart out, or don’t, whatever, just keep in mind that your last movement turned out to be a real BM.


awe nice! that bit at the end

It’s time to start a new viable third party

I knew if we just waited they’d flinch first.


So, building highways in Texas is a Christian issue. Huh.

It kind of summons up a picture of Kate going down the road to where they are repairing potholes with a huge sign reading, “Repent Sinners!” and screaming, “Blasphemers! You will burn in hell!” at the workers.


I thought President Bush was a godly man, but right now his mind has went south of the border.

“Has went”? Bush is in trouble if he’s losing the support of his very own soul mate.

Aside from their appalling grammar, wingnuts have such a curious turn of phrase. When I read this, I thought He’s gone over to the Roman Catholics? Or has he substituted a mariachi band for the hamster wheel?


Damn. Anyway, when isn’t a Kaye Grogan column an indication… of mescaline use?


It’s a little surprising that the kooks are revolting now, considering how kooky the Republican Party has become. Nothing is too crazy for the crazies.


Why Yes, Cartman it does.


At my blog, we’ve had some discussion whether Kinky is a “liberal.” I think the debate rises from the fact that Kinky often jokes that he’s in favor of gay marriage because gays should be as miserable as the rest of us, but you have to take those joking comments in light of the fact that Kinky didn’t vote against the amendment to the Texas Constitution which banned gay marriage. Anyway, here’s my thoughts:

Let’s be careful about how we use that word “liberal” here in Texas. I think you’d do Kinky less harm among Texas voters if you called Kinky a pedophile than if you called him a liberal. Texas is at least 60% Republican and if Kinky is going to win, he’s going to have to do it with Republican votes (not by snipping off the pot-smoking fringe of the less-than-40%-of-voters Democratic Party because even if Kinky gets 33% of the Democrats — which is unlikely — that’d only get him about 13% of the vote).

Here is why I believe it is quite inaccurate to call Kinky a “liberal.”

Watch this video clip. It is hilarious, it is true, and it is politically incorrect as hell. Liberal politicians are too politically correct to admit the truth that “negro is a charming word.” Whatever Kinky is, he’s NOT a liberal.

Next, read up on Kinky’s get-tough illegal alien plan and his 5 Mexican generals plan. Kinky’s common sense border security plan is the straight up “minuteman” approach, not Perry’s namby-pamby “let’s set up cameras” approach. Make no mistake, Kinky is the only candidate brave enough to say we need armed military generals on our southern border. This is not a liberal plan.

Now consider Kinky’s party affiliation. Kinky has run for office in the past as a Republican and he voted for Bush/Cheney in 2004.

Here is an excerpt from Kinky’s interview with Ruminator magazine confirms that he supported Bush’s Middle East foreign policy:

Question: So does this idea of the honorable cowboy have anything to do with why you threw your support behind President Bush in this last election? You did, didn’t you?
Kinky: Yes. I did in this last election, but I didn’t vote for him the first time.
Question: Who did you vote for in 2000?
Kinky: I voted for Gore then. I was conflicted. . .but I was not for Bush that time. Since then, though, we’ve become friends. And that’s what’s changed things.
Question: So it’s your friendship with him that’s changed your mind about having him as president more than his specific political positions?
Kinky: Well, actually, I agree with most of his political positions overseas, his foreign policy. On domestic issues, I’m more in line with the Democrats. I basically think he played a poor hand well after September 11. What he’s been doing in the Near East and in the Middle East, he’s handling that well, I think.

Now maybe you are like me and you were worried that Kinky showed liberal tendencies by voting for a tree-hugger like Al Gore. Well, rest assured that Kinky was mistaken when he said that. Kinky’s public voting records confirm he didn’t vote for Al Gore in 2000 because Kinky didn’t waste his vote on any candidate from 1994 to 2004 when he voted for Bush/Cheney.

Maybe you think Kinky’s a liberal because he’s a Jew. Rest assured, Kinky’s views on religion are well to the right of Perry’s. Kinky wants to take time during the school day for prayers in schools, and he wants to post the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms.

If you want to see a real liberal, just see who the Dimocrats are running against Kinky.

Look at Chris Bell’s record.

Starting in Houston, Bell’s two big issues were (1) political corruption and (2) ethics reform. Well, goshdarn it, who is in favor of corruption and bad ethics? No one. Bell might have just as well begun his career by being in favor of puppies and ice cream. So what if Bell is against lobbyist abuses — isn’t everyone?

You should see Bell’s record in Congress: click here. Bell was not some mainstream Democrat. Bell was a liberal who

voted NO on banning partial-birth abortion except to save mother’s life,

voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research,

voted NO on Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage,

voted NO on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance,

voted NO on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects,

voted NO on limiting medical malpractice lawsuits to $250,000 damages,

voted NO on capping damages & setting time limits in medical lawsuits,

voted NO on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients,

voted NO on reporting illegal aliens who receive hospital treatment, and

was rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record,

rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record,

rated 93% by the AFL-CIO, indicating a pro-union voting record,

rated 8% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-family voting record, and

rated 0% by FAIR, indicating a voting record loosening immigration.

THAT is the record of a liberal and not a moderate.

Most importantly, Bell biggest claim to fame is being the whistleblower on Tom DeLay. Can you believe a grown man claiming that being a “tattle tale” is one of his biggest career accomplishments? Look at all the litigation that has resulted from the Bell-DeLay dispute: click here. Is litigation a good thing? Plus, I know some people don’t think too highly of Tom DeLay, but no one can deny that he was a very strong leader for Texas and a leader in Congress who brought many valuable federal projects and jobs to Texas, and — thanks to Bell — we can kiss that goodbye.

Finally, look at Bell’s campaign. He’s for making small businesses pay higher wages and making businesses suffer more regulations. I wish Bell would tell us how that is going to bring jobs to Texas!

Bell is a liberal. Kinky is a moderate except where it comes to immigration and separation of church and state, and Kinky’s strong conservative activism on those two topics is completely appropriate.

Despite all of this, I have been fending off bed-wetting liberals who want to claim Kinky as one of their own.

I would show them that Kinky doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ about political correctness and that Kinky has run for office as a Republican and he’s voted for Bush and he has immigration plans to satisfy the minutemen alongside school prayer plans to satisfy a Baptist minister, but still the liberals would not accept that Kinky is a dyed-in-the-wool conservative.

Even after I showed the liberals where Kinky said that the anti-war, anti-Lieberman wing of the Democratic Party is anti-American, those liberals still held fast to their misbelief that Kinky is a liberal.

Finally, we have an answer from Kinky Friedman himself:
“I’m not a liberal, believe me. I’m a compassionate redneck, far more conservative than I am liberal.”


Republicans Are Happier People
Gas prices are going down. Oh, my gosh.

Are We Happy Yet?


To paraphrase George Bernard Shaw, the fact that Republicans may be happier than Democrats and Independents is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.

It’s easy to be happy when you’re drunk on a medium like Faux Nooz which tells you everything is great, just great! all the time.


Maire Jon’: Barf!
(okay, they would have made more sense if you said “are we having fun yet?”)


mmmmmnnnn………………..Jesus pie


*AHEM* ExCUSE Me! Thank you. [Feedback Noise] Is this thing on? Um, I’d just like to propose a little rule here, if I might. If no one else is, I’D be happier. The other day, on this very blog, Gary Ruppert suggested that your American Political Party Affiliation was the determining factor in whether or not a person could handle pressure. I’m not sure if the Party Affiliation creates the ability, or if the ability creates the party affiliation, but whatever. Now Marie Jon’ is here claiming that one party’s membership is happier than the others. Considering that most of the good drugs and all of Teh Secks seems to be over here where I am, I would question her conclusion, but instead I’m gonna question the premise.

Folks, freinds n neighbors, could we agree that your political affiliation reflects your views on how governance should be done, and government’s role in the lives of it’s citizens? That it doesn’t give you super powers, or make you prettier or smarter? There DOES seem to be a correlation with humor, but I think that’s a spurious signal. So could we stop making these claims now. PLEASE?

Oh, except I’m pretty sure Democrats have better hygiene….



Hey, say what you want about kaye Grogan, but this is just damn good writing:

At this point, I don’t believe even a revival could revive the Republican Party.


Man, Republicans don’t act like happier people. I’ve never seen such a bunch of uptight old poops in my entire life. They’re always pissed off about gay people having the audacity to be alive, going apeshit over the latest completely delusional “attack” on Christianity by people who honestly have other, more important things to worry about than whether you meet your daily “Merry Christmas” quote, aghast that women and minorities are completely ignoring the whole concept of “knowing your place”, scared shitless over the thought that some dude named Achmed might not like them*, and generally pissing and moaning about everything not being exactly their way. And it seems the only pleasure they get is watching other people suffer. It’s either that blatantly obvious wargasming that went on at the start of the Iraqi Kerfluffle or that “well that’s what they get for not being me” that goes on from wingnuts during ugly shit like Katrina.

Sheez, it’s like an entire political party made up of surly 12-year-old boys being made to go to the circus with the little kids because they’re still too small/uncontrollable to be left at home. You ever know a kid like that? I was a kid like that, and I wouldn’t wish me at 12 on Dick Cheney.

Republicans and wingnuts, collectively, don’t look happy. The whole lot of ’em looks like they’re in bad need of a hug and bowl. Listen. Settle down. Shut up.

* I think that’s the cause of the whole French thing, too. There’s no rational reason for the wingnut loathing of the French, but I got it figured out. The rest of the world, for most of our history, showed America as this big, great bastion of all that was cool and sexy and hip and sharp and big and smart and modern and cool. We had Elvis. We had Marilyn. We had Abe. We had Martin. We had Hank. We had The Duke. We swung large, baby. And everybody wants this!

The French, though, just sort of shrugged their shoulders and went back to their Sarte and Voltaire and crinkly biscuits, only looking up from time to time**, but basically saying to America “Whatever”. This pisses the wingnuts off because, for some reason, they think they had something to do with America being cool when they really, really don’t.

** Can’t explain the Jerry Lewis thing. Sorry.


“I thought President Bush was a godly man, but right now his mind has went south of the border.”

So she really is from Virginia. You don’t usually see the Appalachian past participle used in print like that. Though she did use the parlor version “has went” instead of the more colloquial “has done gone.”


What, happened….to Kaye’s–“writing”–style? It has went better.


mikey is my hero


Marie Jon’ said,

Gas prices are going down

Hmm, the Saudis pumping more crude to flood the market, keep gas down for a couple months, and help their party keep control of Congress for another term perhaps?


Unfortunately, the habit of unquestioning obedience is ingrained too deeply within the gluey tapioca of the Talibangelical DNA for them to do more than talk about abandoning the Repubs. When their Big Daddy stewards order them out to the polls, Rove-designed checklist in hand, I’m not counting on them to resist. Which is why it’s important for us progressives to remind the still-sane red-state voters that, yeah, those Repub keggers seemed like fun at the time, but every mid-November they wake up with a throbbing hangover, no pants, painted with a crust of bodily fluids — and find out all over again that, no, Karl won’t respect them in the morning. We need to keep talking about the economic issues from which Repubs use the Talibangelical snake-handling revivals as a distraction. Because, after all these rollercoaster years, if even the far-right fringes are starting to notice that the Repubs use “Christian faith” the way David Copperfield uses sparkly CGI — as a prop, a distraction, a disguise for an ugly economic agenda (“Watch Big Dick & Little Karl make the surplus disappear! Followed by your 401K, your job, and for a special encore the American military!”) —
there are a lot of red-state voters who’ll be looking for a reasonable alternative. And in the short term, like two months from now, that’s not going to be a “new” political party.


You know what they say:

When you lose Kaye, “Grogan” … you’ve lost America.


Ahhhh, yes, finally! How long have I waited for the Christian wingnuts to realize the kleptocrats that truly control the Republican party could care less about “social values”. These two groups are the most bizarre and unlikely alliance I could ever imagine.

Abortion? The kleptocrats could care less. (Does anyone really believe Dubya — or Laura — wouldn’t force Jenna to get an abortion if she got pregnant during an election year.) Immigration? Sorry, they’re not about to give up their cheap labor. The fact that Kaye is actually pissed about the deficit is just icing on the cake.

Well, as they say in my home state of Texas, “Baby, you gotta dance with the one that brung ya.” So dance GOP, dance! Outlaw abortion, fence off the borders, send those small business owners and farmers that hire illegal immigrants to jail…and watch your majority melt away until you’re stuck with nothing but the 30% of the crazies in this country. I’m sure you will exhibit all of the grace of any dancing elephant in doing so.

(My apologies to elephants.)


Republicans are happier? I guess that’s proof that ignorance really is bliss.


Can one of you geniuses find a way to note and tally everytime a wing-nutte
uses the phrase “playing a dangerous game”? Which, to me, is, like,
ice hockey. Right? Is that what they mean?


No, George W. Bush is the best president the US has EVER had:


Oh, Kaye. Try the Pete Seeger song instead.

Marie Jon’, *that’s* how ya have fun. It’s good enough for me!


“MrWonderful said,

September 2, 2006 at 3:11

Can one of you geniuses find a way to note and tally everytime a wing-nutte
uses the phrase “playing a dangerous game�? Which, to me, is, like,
ice hockey. Right? Is that what they mean?

No, using the rythym method for birth control is a dangerous game. Not whatever they’re talking about.
Also, am I the only one sick of allowing fucking loony purity ball throwing, gay-bashing, purity ball-throwing sick bastards like that to call themselves Christians with a capitla C, like somehow they got the right to the name in a divorce settlement? Last time I checked, being Presbyterian got you into heaven just as much as going to a megachurch did.


Please don’t turn into a troll, Marie Jon’ —
Your lunacy in comments don’t belong (don’t belong)’
Those Jesus-freaking columns keep us going all day long
So please don’t turn into a troll, Marie Jon’. (yeehaw)


I really fucking hate this woman. And being an honest person, I can admit that, and then forever pretend that she simply does not exist.


I like Ice Cream….



If the Christnuts don’t vote Repub, who will they vote for?
We need Godly men? Why for? Are un-godly men incapable of making desicions and form policy?
She wants a third partly, presumably of Evangelists, by Evangelists, and for Evangelists. What could possibly go wrong?
I mean, BESIDES every single decision they make being struck down by the Supreme Court for being in violation of the 1st admendment.
I, as well, am perfectly content with the Crazies voting for neither Republican nor Democrat. Works for me.
Her flag is wrong. Nyah.

Gases prices going down, you say? Try a calander. What season is ending?
“Hey, this Halloween candy is crazy cheap!” “It’s MARCH!”


Am I just a complete idiot or what, but I don’t see how we got off Kaye “Miracle” Gro and onto Marie Jon’..

Don’t get me wrong, I love a good MJ’ bashing, but I’m just not seeing the connection.

Anyway… For the record, I would be all for K Gro starting a new third party. And Please, Oh Please, let her take Pat Buchanan with her, and Michelle “I hate the color of my skin, because it makes me a traitor to White America” Malkin. Couldn’t you just picture the campaign slogan for their new party, the Whites, “Kill brown babies because its good, but protect white blastocysts because their (sic) God’s own!1!!1!!”.

Put a Confederate flag behind K Gro, and Senator Allen would be all over this new party as their presidential nominee. He could run on a platform of, “Elect me, and I’ll create a new cabinet position of ‘morality czar’ and name James Dobson to head it.” Senator “taxicab terrorist” Coburn could be the vice-presidential nominee, where he would proclaim at every campaign stop, “Elect us, and we’ll line up all taxicab drivers, and groundskeepers and stoot them all as ‘enemy combatants'”

Of course, Jay “Screw the First Amendment, as long as you don’t use the profane word ‘screw'” Sekelow would be the Attourney General. And finally, William “nuke everyone who disagrees with me, literally” Kristol would become the new Sec. of Defense.

Have I gone too far??


Yes, I have gone too far. My apologies.


Marie Jon just used the word “happier.” I don’t think it means what she thinks it means.


I guess the thread has went.


Actually, since the Republicans constantly piss and moan about how they’re being persecuted, in spite of the fact that THEY control it all right now, it seems they prefer to think of themselves in the minority. Well, Republikids, the dream can become the reality! Just don’t vote this fall, and we Dems will be happy to dish out a little well-deserved punishment for all o’ you. Why, just prosecuting the crimes committed during the Shrub administration so far will keep our legal staffs busy for ages! And if you’re very good little boys and girls, I’m sure we can toss in a little extraneous persecution once we have all those war crimes trials and domestic criminal trials wrapped up!


And then Kaye has went on to become the founder of the Punctuation Party. “Free quotation marks!” she cried, “and an ellipses for every clause!”


“So, building highways in Texas is a Christian issue. Huh.”

Apparently so. And How fun it is to realize that the issue isn’t something as typically conservative as “the highways we got are perfectly good enough” or “we can’t afford the cost” but, rather, a wacko Mexlamofascist conspiracy theory. I love Kaye!


Sorry to go off-Grogan and on-Jon’, but…

Republicans Are Happier People

Now, now, let’s be precise here.

Republicans Say They Are Happier People

This is self-reported, after all. What if Republican expectations of happiness are lower? If we’re just here to suffer and make money (or make others suffer and make money), and that’s as good as it gets, why, then they are very happy! Perhaps Democrats just have higher expectations of themselves and of others.

Remember the old beer ad, “It doesn’t get any better than this”? I always thought, “well, if you’re an alcoholic….”

Karatist Preacher

Goddamn that’s a freaky picture.


“This is self-reported, after all. ”

One of the curious hallmarks of wing-nut punditry is the omniscience with which they seem to be able to know the inner thoughts, motives, and emotions of — well, ALL of us, liberals and conservatives alike.

That’s why we are treated to so many marvelous columns that pronounce assertions like “liberals love Saddam Hussein” and “liberals hate Christianity” and “liberals are longing for the day we convert to Islam.”. I love it when they extrapolate this out to include not only assertions about supposed political positions, but also analyze our characters and emotions by the cars we drive, food we eat, music we listen to, whether an anonymous person drops a candy wrapper on the sidewalk, or whether someone’s children act up. This magical act also manages to discern, without any evidence, that the person they disapprove of is, of course, liberal, and by their acts of raising children who shout grocery stores demonstrate their support for al Quaeda.

The converse side of it, of course, is their observations that conservative icons or heroes who exhibit almost the exact same behavior or personal habits are demonstrating their conservative values and patriotism.


This is prepping for the election losses when they will challenge the conventional wisdom that “Democratic Voters Won,” with the argument that “Right-Wing Christians Withheld Their Support.”

Gwen Ifil just eats this kind of zany flipping-the-conventional-wisdom schtick right up.p


I’m not sure I see the connection between Jesus and superhighways…


thehim said,

September 2, 2006 at 19:58

I’m not sure I see the connection between Jesus and superhighways…

In the novel GOOD OMENS, by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, the London M25 highway is revealed to be a huge symbol for summoning demons and concentrating evil. Imagine what that makes the LIE and the Cross Bronx Expressway. Not to mention the NJ Turnpike.


I’m not sure I see the connection between Jesus and superhighways…

Well, keep looking at that map until you find it, I’ll see if I can fix the GPS!!!


kansas avenger said:

I thought President Bush was a godly man, but right now his mind has went south of the border.

“Has went�? Bush is in trouble if he’s losing the support of his very own soul mate.

Aside from their appalling grammar, wingnuts have such a curious turn of phrase. When I read this, I thought He’s gone over to the Roman Catholics? Or has he substituted a mariachi band for the hamster wheel?

I’m pretty sure this is a reference to George wanting to fuck his brother Jeb’s wife. “South of the Border” if you know what i mean. on at least two levels.


Frankly, I’m not sure I see the connection between how many people vote for which party and who wins the election. I hope the Democrats have some way to connect the two. They’re gonna need it.


Hopefully the Dems will find a way to steal and cheat in the elections in order to win. Just like the republicans always have. The evidence is obvious: there is no way in this world that the voters actually voted in an illiterate retarded chimpanze as prez.

Is there?

Show me proof that they did not steal and cheat in past elections, and I’ll consider accepting how dumb America really is!


Yeah even the most conservative country folk are enraged at the creation of a new continental nation consisting of Canada, USA and Mexico without their consent. Even the Europeans got to vote on whether they wanted into the EU, but not us. We just have to take it

And before you start howling with derisive laughter over the NAFTA highway why don’t you read up on this disaster that will destroy all the Teamster and Longshormen jobs in N. America?


If Islamofascists is a word, then is there a Christofascist? Just wondering.


If Islamofascists is a word, then is there a Christofascist?

You bet Christofascist is a word and examples abound in the good ol’ USofA starting with the Pres. George Warmonger Bush.


the saddest thing about the current state of devisive political groupthinking that goes on in these internet blogs:

the woman makes a valid point about wreckless,gross overspending on spurious projects such as the so called NAFTA superhighway (they’ve even discussed this on Wisconsin public radio folks-THE hands down most enlightened programming on today’s airwaves) yet the commenters here are either so blinded with the same bigotry they accuse her of that they can’t consider for a moment finding common cause on any issue with someone of a different worldview but would rather belittle and demean every view she holds. She can not comment on this because she is Christian?

I’m a lefty with a number of conservative Christian friends.
We differ on a lot of social issues but do not hate one another and can actually have civil discourse and find common ground in some areas.
Their growing disaffection with Bush and the GOP is real.

The disdain for and subhumanization of “people of faith” that many libs proudly display is real. The “faithful” aren’t fellow citizens with common concerns, they are only and immutably THE ENEMY.

I see the same crap on rightwing blogs, leftwing blogs…same shit different stained asscheeck….grow up you bunch of juveniles.

Good luck with that democracy thing, Ship of Fools.


F. LaRouce is right- that highway is one shitty scheme. The more people opposed to it the better.


** Can’t explain the Jerry Lewis thing. Sorry.

I figured it out years ago. The French (at least the critics) think Jerry represents the average American. “Good intentions, but what a bozo!”


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