Me No Like Big Republican Words. Cerberus Smash!
See her upcoming book, Conservatives are from Mars, Liberals are from the Pleistocene Epoch.
Anne-Marie Murrell, Clownhall Finance:
Republicans Equal Vegetables; Democrats Equal Dessert
You know you’re off to a good start when the very title of what you are mocking is a giant ball of IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION. I don’t even need to bother writing a post. The title alone is good for at least 4000 pages of humor-mining.
I mean, fuck, before we get into the metaphor fails, there’s the literal interpretation fail staring us in the face. Specifically that Republicans have spent a large portion of the last 4 years ranting about the evil of vegetables and how liberals are trying to force you and your children to eat them in order to feminize you and make you more amenable to the pussy thinky crap liberals peddle in.
Rush Limbaugh has gone on several high profile rants about the liberal perfidy of vegetables and pretty much every “right-thinking” conservative thinks vegetarians are essentially demons in human clothing.
And that’s just the literal meaning. To rescue a piece so completely fucked from its very title, one would have to be a hack supreme, an uberhack that all unterhacks were forced to recognize as a superman. And sadly not only does Ann-Marie lack the prerequisite plumbing to qualify by wingnut rules, but she’s also writing for convenient white supremacist tracking site Townhall.
Her job before now was to sprinkle a dash of financial mumbo jumbo in front of popular racist conspiracy theories and unhinged rants about Obama. This sloppy mess of Projection and unfortunate metaphors is a step up for her.
As such, not only is this a fail from the very title, it even comes provided with its own shorter.
Verbatim (oh yeah, direct quote, that’s all the warning you need):
- Sigh. So how can boring, wordy Republicans compete with the “desserts” of the world?
I said I was going to mention the metaphor fail and this is as good a place as any. This really is a full-on IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION piece. I know it was destined to be so, but there could have been some shred of dignity salvaged if Ann-Marie had gone the “deficit hawk direction”.
Oh, it wouldn’t have made the metaphor more correct. But at least blathering on about “austerity” would have been a subject where Republicans are on the side of an unpleasant sounding solution as well as a harmful one.
True, the metaphor there would be more in line with serving one blanched unseasoned vegetables that have been overcooked to remove all nutrients and flavor because “good for you” is a meaningless punishment, but at least it wouldn’t be our actual metaphor.
Which is an illustration of a fantasy realm where Republicans are the ones on CNN with rictus smiles as they attempt to calmly point out that tax cuts don’t actually make all the problems go away while an unhinged rhesus monkey is throwing its feces in their faces.
Narnia this is not.
Almost every time I turn on Fox News, some random Republican is talking about deficit spending, tax codes, beneficiary information and all the technical aspects of Obamacare and the economy
Almost every time she turns on Fox News she sees people desperately flinging whatever they can against the wall to see if it sticks. Apparently, like most wingnuts, she suffers from a sad malady that prevents her from remembering more than a day in the past. This prevents her from noting that they’ve only moved into the esoteric and completely meaningless because their initial barrage of “SOCIALISM! DEATH PANELS! COMPLETE END OF HEALTH CARE!” completely failed to hit target.
Honestly, I’m rather tickled pink by this new esoteric track, because a lot of wingnuts have actually started using left-wing arguments against the Obama nee Republican plan. In the hands of a competent political class, this could be used to pass a better bill without Republicans even realizing they screwed themselves just to deny Obama a “win”.
—while over on CNN and MSNBC, Democrats are grunting their usual (insipid) mantras: “Hope, Good! Forward, Good! Republicans–BAD!”
Ah right, our Up is Down, Black is White fantasy kingdom.
No, you know what? I can’t even get mad at this. I mean, if it was some sort of smug evasive “unlike the plebian affectations of Democrats”, then yeah. But this?
It’s not even IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION. Projection at least is based on something real someone is doing. This instead is one of those Grade-A whoppers you usually only see in Evangelical cultures where someone with absolute no exposure to “heathen culture” tries to describe it to people who think it’s evil to know any better.
From this it is clear that Ann-Marie has never watched a day of CNN and MSNBC in her life. Hell, she probably switches it off the second a “liberal” appears on Fox News in order to protect her soul from their evil communist mind control rays.
It’s so unconnected to the real that there really is no response other than poking it with a scalpel to see how it responds.
I first started noticing our extreme differences in messaging this March when I attended the Road to Repeal Rally in DC.
We were all assembled on the steps of the Supreme Court building. On one side were the ‘unicorns and rainbow’ union sheep—accompanied by a bongo player, no less–marching around in circles bleating, “We love Obamacare!” and “Healthcare is a human right!” and “Jesus was a socialist!”
In the Apocalypse, the Bongo will be the Mark of the Beast. That is how evil it is.
On the other side, the Tea Party folks were passionately shouting things like, “Read the Constitution because it is the only thing that will save this country!” and “Obamacare hurts the free market system!” and that catchiest of chants, “Health care costs will increase by about $311 billion through 2019!” (Okay, they didn’t actually chant that last one, but you get the message…)
What?!? They didn’t chant the last one? But I was assured that conservative activists are nothing but tweed-clad librarians stodgily reciting nuanced full policy positions as their chants! How could you misled me so, Ann-Marie?!? I TRUSTED YOU!
But seriously, there’s a reason she had to add that fictional chant and that’s made explicitly clear when she stitches the chants of both sides together like she did. And it’s not just that the liberal side seems to be a snarky and fun way of pointing out basic truths while the conservative chants are based in either flat-out lies or off-topic obsessions.
It’s that rallies aren’t really about nuanced policy discussion. Heck, cartoonists have already thoroughly exploited the raw humor mine that is the notion of trying to append a complex viewpoint onto a placard or a march chant.
Rallies and marches are instead about visibility. About opening a debate regarding the substance and the nuance by showing the raw numbers first. Pointing out where anger exists or the voice of a marginalized minority that has been left out of the debate.
I mean, I love Pride, but the Parades aren’t the real queer rights movement. They’re the spectacle. The thing to show the diversity of our movement, the size, the spirit. They are the thing that create the space for the discussions. The people coming out to friends and family, the TV shows and movies that include our people as characters, the various interactions that lead to genuine shifts in culture.
And this is another stumbling block for dear old Ann-Marie. She’s so used to her authoritarian top-down culture of chants and shouting that she is literally unable to envision anything else.
Of course it is a matter of bumper sticker slogan versus bumper sticker slogan. That’s just how policy debate works. And our bumper sticker slogans are more interesting to me personally, so obviously, my side is the one with the most wisdom and nuance.
Usually with IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION, the piece is primarily malice, a deliberate deception to bury the bodies and divert blame. This is IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION in its purest form. A person unable to imagine any life experiences beyond her own and trying desperately to rationalize the sudden demons she has encountered who do not find “Impeach Obama out of MY White House” particularly compelling.
It’s almost refreshingly naive. But don’t worry, she still has a lot of article left to infuriate me.
If the other side had been listening to the Tea Partiers, I think they would have collectively said, “Huh? You want me to read what? And just where is this ‘free’ market?”
There’s a reason I find myself talking so much about Fundamentalist Christians in this piece. And that’s because this is literally the same mind-boggling egocentric bullshit. This is exactly the sort of things Fundies tell themselves about the type of people who don’t agree with their narrow interpretation of Christianity. Why, those heathens are all like “What is this Bible you speak of? I’ve never heard of this Jesus fellow before you told me about him.” So once they have, they will surely view our random quoting of the Bible as the same thing as scientific proof and ignore their lying eyes! If they don’t, they must be “deliberately not listening” or “maliciously pretending” because there is no possible way they could look at our bullshit and decide it’s bullshit on its merits.
And my response here is the sort of bemused pity I have with those people. Ignorant and incurious is no way to go through life, my daughter.
Comparing the differences, I finally understood why so many Democrats remain Democrat no matter how unreasonable and unintelligent it may seem.
So far I’ve mostly been seeing that the Democrats communicate with pre-verbal grunts and are incapable of listening to the shouted out chants of people less than 40 yards away.
Now to be fair, the latter isn’t really their fault what with your rally consisting of the usual 5 guys and a hoverund while they had a legitimate-sized rally.
But still, based on the set-up, I’m going with Democrats are Neanderthal cavemen unused to scary modern society with the scary road demons that make the loud noises and the lack of wooly mammoths to hunt and all.
In food terms, Republicans are the healthy (yet boring and tedious) meat, potatoes and vegetables of a meal. They are there to nourish, and to keep you strong and fit. Although Republicans represent the most responsible and important part of the meal, they’re nothing to really get excited about–unlike the sugary, yummy excesses of dessert.
Which is exactly the part of the meal that Democrats symbolize.
Ah, dessert. It’s what most children would rather eat first, skipping the “healthy” portions altogether.
Children don’t care about nutrients, vitamins, minerals—they just want the stuff that tastes good in their mouths. They don’t care how it’s made, who made it, how it got there–they just want it in front of them so they can scarf it all down. Or as Veruca Salt famously said in Willie Wonka, “I want it and I want it NOW!”
Of course! The food metaphor! We needed to stick that fail in somewhere. Now, most people coming up with that giant fail after exposing one’s body to fresh air and exercise for the first time in one’s life might suspect that the origin of the metaphor was based in one being hungry. Specifically hungry for cake because all that sitting in a hoverund was pretty strenuous exercise. But Ann-Marie is not most people!
As such, we set up our meatless-aphor for the rest of the post. It may seem pretty fail-worthy now, but I’m sure Ann-Marie can engineer some extra fail somehow.
In real-life terms, Republicans will talk a thing to death, providing details and data and reasonable, logical facts while Democrats thrive on as few words and sentences as humanly possible: Things are fine! Go Green!
You know, I’m actually morbidly curious as to how our incurious projectionist managed to arrive at this insistence that Democrats speak like Tarzan after a bender (You Jane. You fetch me aspirin.) Was it some sort of myth passed around at her church? Did she ask her pastor about one of the words she overheard at a rally and he told her that it was just a meaningless slogan liberals say and she took it literally? Or was her first brief encounter with a reality-based counter-rally her only encounter with a liberal and so assumed that liberals speak that way all the time?
I suspect the latter which makes me wonder what her world must look like with evil liberals going everywhere with a sign above their heads singing “Hey hey, ho ho, Insert X has got to go”.
It’s also baffling. She’s aware enough of actual liberals to steal their actions as the actions of brave conservatives in the standard IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION style, but unless we’re looking at one snarky spark of self-awareness, this Projected description of liberals isn’t so much about conservatives as a theoretical band of alien mercenaries.
Sigh.
Yes, I would sigh after that paragraph too.
So how can boring, wordy Republicans compete with the “desserts” of the world?
For one thing, we’ve got to change our message and the way we deliver it. We’ve got to keep it as simple as humanly possible and relay it in as few words as necessary.
Ah, this is the IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION we are used to. All right, everyone, altogether now:
“This would differ from current Republican tactics, how?”
And that’s the obligatory joke quota met. But seriously, if Republican arguments became any more twitter-friendly they really would be the sub-verbal caveman speak Ann-Marie attributes to liberals.
The people we’re trying to reach—the Independents—just want the basics. Many of them are young, struggling and don’t believe they’ll ever even have children in the future–so we can’t talk about how much money/taxes/debt their children will someday owe. These folks simply want to know how life with a Republican president will affect their lives RIGHT NOW.
We’ve got to talk about THEIR pocketbooks—not their children’s.
We’ve got to talk about THEIR rent—not someone else’s.
We’ve got to give them real-life dollar amounts that THEY stand to lose—not some national statistical Austrian economics-type explanation.
Well, sure, if you’re the usual Teabagger Nonagenarian, the scant remaining Independent 50 year olds who can’t decide if they are enough of a racist to ignore Republican policies would indeed seem “young”.
However, here in what we liberal cavemen might describe as the real world, those damn Obama-worshiping young ‘uns are rather decided when it comes to politics.
Now, we might, amid all the grunting, note that this is because said young whippersnappers got to experience all the “growth and prosperity” that the last 30 years of conservative fiscal policy has wrought. That they got to personally witness the effect all that austerity and tax cuts had on the “pocketbooks” and “rents” of “their children”.
And maybe have noticed that screaming for a continuation of that along with environmental policies that would seem to work against there even being a future is unlikely to be worth it.
They may even find it a tad disingenuous coming from the same handful of rich hacks who traded away said youthful rapscallions’ futures just to make said rich fuckers even more obscenely wealthy.
But that’s just because we haven’t heard the WORD from the Austerity Bible Thumbing True Believers.
For example, let’s say “Sally” is a 24-year old waitress at your local diner.
YOU: Sally, do you have health insurance?
SALLY: Of course not! I barely make enough to pay my bills and rent as it is.
YOU: Well did you know that in a few years people who haven’t bought Obama’s health insurance will have to pay a fine of up to $695 per year? If you think you can’t afford to pay for health insurance right now, can you afford to pay almost $700 for nothing? That’s one of the major differences between Democrats and Republicans—we believe you should be able to choose whatever product you want to buy with your own hard-earned money. (And scene…)
You know what I never get tired of? Republicans using their giant victory in the health care debate as the cudgel to beat the “liberal” plan to death.
Yeah, Republicans you successfully won the Health Care debate. Health Care will continue to be treated like car insurance. So just like car insurance, you need to have it or pay a fine. This was YOUR victory, so you can stop rolling around in the dirt screaming your head off at how unfair it is that your own rules apply to you.
Also, you might notice something suspiciously familiar about this fantasy conversation.
That’s because it’s the same pre-written script style they give to evangelists for use in the real world or to “paid”* fundraisers or petitioners when they go door-to-door.
Like the “rallies” referenced earlier, that’s because these interactions aren’t about conversation, debate, or even really genuine attempts to convince someone. They’re about monolauging at someone with an illusion of authority and knowledge in the hopes of getting them to make a split-second decision.
We could point out how telling it is that in this whine about how conservatives are just so darn intellectual and tweed-shirt stuffy for their own good, there doesn’t even seem to be awareness that political interactions could exist outside of those spaces of door-to-door evangelizing or political rally.
Also, one of our Republican messages should come directly from the “sugary dessert” leader himself, Barack Obama.
No, no, no! You’ve got the setup right there for you. You’ve got the dessert metaphor and the scary black man. There’s only one acceptable metaphor here. Something in the “chocolately goodness” oeuvre if you will. Heck, for extra dog whistle, you could have gone with “devil’s food cake” leader.
Back in 2008 when then-Senator Obama was campaigning against Hillary Clinton, he was very succinct in demolishing her plans for mandated healthcare.
“If a mandate was the solution, we could try that to solve homelessness by mandating everybody to buy a house. The reason they don’t have a house is they don’t have the money,” Obama said.
Yeah, and then we had a public health care debate and he lost. Not because the people weren’t on his side, as much as your teabagger circuses and screams about Death Panels tried to make it seem. But because so many Democrats and Republicans were openly bought by the Insurance companies that the existing watered-down Republican bill was all we could manage if we wanted to make some minor changes that could help some people.
We lost, you won.
(NOTE: You’re welcome, RNC–you can send me a check later for the new commercial.)
Why not?!?
Heck, they are already running on their obstruction, citing the lack of progress he made thanks to Republicans cynically blocking every attempt to fix things as his fault.
This would be a step up for them.
I’m telling you, folks—keeping it simple, making the healthy part of the meal more “fun” and easy to digest is the only way we can reach the Independents and the people who say they don’t care about politics. I know this for a fact because I used to be a “Sally”.
Just thought I’d let you know.
We’d be remiss in our catalog of Evangelical culture today if we didn’t mention that oft abused tactic of “fictional conversion”. This comes up a lot in either conversion attempts against outsiders, but more often in reassurances to insiders. Basically, no matter how obvious it is that a person has never spent a waking moment outside of the Evangelical culture they are claiming to be a new convert to and how ignorant they are of the “heathen culture” they converted from, the Evangelical will claim to be a recent convert swayed by the inherent “rightness” of the message.
It’s best used among fellow travelers, because being such, they also are ignorant of how real actual heathens act and so the standard litany of dog-whistles and scare tactics sound perfectly normal.
Of course this person was standing at the peripheral of lesbian death metal orgies where they sacrificed children to Satan that occur in every Girl Scouts board meeting. But then they found out that the Bible is a thing that exists and thus obviously the Rapture will occur this following Tuesday unless we donate all our earthly belongings to Pastor Dave.
I bring it up here because the whole “I used to be Sally” shtick would be a bit more shall we say believable if:
A) She hadn’t spent an entire article so completely unable to imagine what makes someone a liberal that she presented them as sub-verbal cavemen.
B) If said entire article wasn’t also trying to be about how Republicans are erudite wordsmiths unable to limit their vocabulary enough to sway the fickle minds of the common rabble. (Yeah, kind of shivs that whole “We need to be simple like we currently aren’t” tangent if you admit that it was the bumper sticker slogans and contextless factoids that swayed you to Team Evil)
And C) You didn’t have to include a bio** with your post putting the lie to the bullshit that you are either a) young, or b) have ever been anything less than the wingnuttiest of wingnuts.
But besides that, you really had me going there. The mask was so subtle.
Also, which one of you snarky bastards commented on her screed as luby? Because this comment:
Very well said, Ann-Marie. Even I, a math and finance deficient, could grasp how easily one grunt words can be understood. “Me go now” is much more comfortable for the easily distracted masses who have been educated down to 4th grade reading level being considered functionally literate than ” I shall depart the premises at this juncture.” Writer Murrell is correct in her major premise, and if left alone with the cheesecake, anyone will be hard pressed not to chow down.
nearly caused water to go out my nose.
‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. Me no Able Include Shorter Because Me Liberal. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™
*When I was a wee Cerberi, I was “employed” by one of those groups. My 12 hour shifts were retroactively called “volunteer” work during my “trial period”. This was one of the less scummy things they did. I’ve worked for scumbags since, but luckily none have ever made me feel so unclean as when I was working for them.
**The bio is filled with gems of insanity. My favorite is probably where she proudly lists a tangential involvement with the premier of “Runaway Slave”. No, that’s not the name of the “Django” Asylum knockoff. It’s a “conservative documentary” wherein disgraced former pastor and former head of a tiny chapter of the NAACP in Garland, Texas, C.L. Bryant equates being a black Tea Party member as being exactly like being an escaped slave. Who is C.L. Bryant, you say? I don’t know. No, seriously, the guy is so inconsequential and meaningless that I can’t find one article about him that isn’t some wingnut tenderly licking his boo-boo and cooing “poor baby”. From what I can piece together, he was a meaningless side show who was so upset about teh gays getting a meaningless nod by the NAACP that he decided all black people are evil and now makes his money telling racists that the NAACP is actually the Black Panthers. I wish I was joking.
Hey, new post up!
Second!!
Can’t disagree w/ this sentiment:
Republicans Equal Vegetables
Way shorter: Democrats have made poor people dependent on food. We should take away their food.
We need a political equivalent to that pseudo-fundy masterpiece, Kissing Hank’s Ass.
So SHE is the woman who caused all blonde women to be labeled “dumb.”
One reason why Republicans are so smart is all that book-larnin’ they hate.
heh.
JUMP! YOU FUCKERS!
M.B., did you make that sign?
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all blonde women
Natural blondes aren’t stupid: It’s the sort of person who colors her hair who’s a ninny.
Yes, yes, voters are distractable gratification-seeking children who cannot be trusted to choose policies that are best for them, we get it.
This sounds rather sinister, with the implication that the democratic process needs to be “managed” (purely for the voters’ own good), but I suspect it’s more a case of Anne-Marie consoling her readers in advance for an election loss. It wasn’t our fault! Our policies are fine!
The poor woman. I can’t even begin to imagine the amount of brain trauma that must have been inflicted by those experiences.
M.B., did you make that sign?
No, much too restrained. (It’s from Wall Street, innit?)
“I will push you out your corner window, you sick fuck!” is more my style.
I’m staring out the daylight basement sliding door.
It’s a long way down to chipmunkville…good bye, cruel world!
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It’s evidently from a demonstration on Wall Street in October 2008, when the financial system was in free-fall.
…when the financial system was in free-fall.
Things are much better now, since the criminals have been given trillion$.
Go back to your hovels, nothing to see.
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A hovel?
Loooooook-shury!
Go back to your hovel, if you still have one, ya lucky bastiches.
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So they’ve moved on to “thrill, baby, thrill” as their new TOTALLY non-insipid mantra? Good luck with that, ELIZA.
Also, On the other side, the Tea Party folks were passionately shouting things like “respect are country: speak English.” MORON LABE!
Reminds me of another occasion when Conservatives were compared to vegatables.
Anne-Marie has attracted some highly intelligentectualistic commenters:
Democrats are like Diabetics, they just can’t stay away from sweets of socialism, which threatens to kill all of US someday!
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Truth of the matter is that DEMOCRAT EQUALS MARXISM(ANTI-CHRIST) & the DEVIL & REPUBICANS EQUAL DREAMERS, or people that wish the Democrats were not evil! Only because that’s the 70%er’s & Super-Majority that run our country into the debt of hell.
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Many voters are dumber than a box of rocks. They vote on an emtional like/dislike basis
These guys’ political ideas are way too advanced for the general public to understand.
Anne-Marie has attracted some highly intelligentectualistic commenters:
BEHOLD the details and data and reasonable, logical facts!
the funniest part of her imaginary conversation with “Sally”?
That there is nothing in it that actually helps to provide health care for “Sally” (I mean, other than the ACA actually does help to provide affordable care for people who can’t afford it. The fines are for people who CAN afford it, but elect not to).
So basically, it’s “You don’t have money for healthcare! We believe that you have the right to not have money for health care! You’re welcome.”
But THOSE are the complicated positions that Democrats can’t understand. Seems completely fair.
I for one have long pushed the idea that Republicans are vegetables, though I have to admit that I have seen far better heads on broccoli.
The fines are for people who CAN afford it, but elect not to
Also: Mitt Romney’s idea.
I can’t even begin to imagine the amount of brain trauma that must have been inflicted by those experiences.
That assumes, contrary to all evidence, that there is something there to damage.
First of all, it was obvious from the title where this thing was headed, but why use an analogy that equates voters to small children? Adults know that vegetables can be quite tasty as long as they are prepared well. For instance, cucumbers are utterly tasteless, but they’re great if treated with red oil – a Chinese concoction made from ground-up peppers. Cucumbers and seaweed with red oil is one of my favorite sides. Another good choice is mustard greens, which you can get in a lot of Southeast Asian restaurants. If you ever find yourself in Shanghai, find a restaurant where you can get a piece of grilled cod with mustard greens and miso and…
…What? Oh right, Townhall.
I’m not even sure how to go about addressing that column, as I’m not sure on what DC Universe alternate earth Republicans (and particularly Tea Partiers) talk like that. How do you argue against a delusion, anyway? And it really is a delusion, since Murrell’s big example (“Well did you know that in a few years people who haven’t bought Obama’s health insurance will have to pay a fine of up to $695 per year?”) is not only a talking point that’s already in very wide use, it’s factually incorrect. This is the problem with getting all your information second-hand, you wind up parroting other people’s lies (because seriously, no one at TownHall is high enough on the totem pole to be creating the spin).
Oh yeah, and what’s that shit about “$695 for nothing”? It’s for insurance, a very specific thing. Maybe it is nothing to a right-wing obstructionist, since they seem to prefer that no one really needs health care. I mean, I could have had my friend reset that broken arm, right? Or that time I caught a mystery virus and dropped twenty pounds in a little over a month because I couldn’t eat…we could all stand to lose a little weight, right? And as for chronic illnesses, I know plenty of people with asthma who do fine…well, other than the uncle who died.
DEMOCRAT EQUALS MARXISM(ANTI-CHRIST)
Only in my dreams.
No matter what the “meat and vegetables” say, I don’t want that shit on my table.
Wasn’t “meat and vegetables” the euphemism for male genitalia in There’s Something About Mary?
Popcorn time!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/27/former-fl-gop-chair-says-right-wing-crazies-want-to-suppress-black-vote/
When I think book-smart, I think Michele Bachmann.
Popcorn time!
Did somebody call Artur Davis?
Would it be uncivil if I were to call for a Klansman’s koch to be photoshopped into this picture?
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Wait, she says Veruca Salt was a Democrat? I call shenanigans– this woman must be a plant (and not as in vegetable). There’s not a single Republican on earth who sees Willie Wonka and doesn’t come away thinking Veruca Salt was the martyred heroine.
It is just lucky that the dummies don’t read the internets or they might be a little peeved about being told that they are too stupid to unnerstand the Higher-Ups. She’s right about Republican wordiness though, the downside is that it is more effective if some of the words make sense and are in the right order.
Refudiate, uh huh.
When I think book-smart, I think Michele Bachmann.
well, you have to admit that Breitbart has become more coherent since his demise.
Well, he seems to have taken “better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt” more to heart recently.
Wasn’t “meat and vegetables” the euphemism for male genitalia in There’s Something About Mary?
I believe it was “franks and beans”.
Drill baby drill!
Grammar is socialism.
Ha ha ha!
See, it’s a VERY FUNNY metaphor, because the GOP keeps cutting aid to hungry American kids, even as child poverty hits record heights!
(What, did you think those trillions in corporate handouts were going to pay for themselves??? Suck it up for Goldman Sachs & Lockheed,, you little buggers – OR ELSE.)
So contrary to the thesis of Murrell’s metaphorsturbation, lots of little “Sallys” who’re currently feasting on a heaping plate of SWEET FUCK-ALL would actually consider meat, potatoes & veggies to be quite exciting & delicious, if only someone would grow a fucking conscience & stop taking them away – in one of the richest countries on Earth.
Get it?
Surely this “wonky highbrow GOP” trope explains why the Texas branch recently just came right out & said that critical thinking skills are the devil’s Lego for young minds & as such are to be actively discouraged at every opportunity. Seems they’re not too dim to see the negative correlation between knowing what’s really going on in the world & voting Republican.
Given what a deadly minefield of inconvenient reality the Interwebz has to offer, I’m kind of surprised nobody’s sold them a “Factual Content Filter” for their computers yet, but give it time … IF U BUILD IT, THEY WILL DUMB.
“Meat & two veg”
Wasn’t “franks and beams” the euphemism for an egocentric ball-player and his fans on the Bob Newhart Show?
Well, Breitbart has at least gotten more sober since his demise.
I got yer wonky/awesome weirdness RIGHT HERE (h/t metafilter).
GEOLOGY IS THEFT!
…the Texas branch recently just came right out & said that critical thinking skills are the devil’s Lego for young minds & as such are to be actively discouraged at every opportunity.
Having grown up there, I can assure you that the Texan’s fear of children “getting ideas into their heads” will die a very slow and painful death.
Yeah, ‘Things are fine!’ is a very typical left-wing point of view. Leftists have been famous for thinking that things are fine ever since Karl Marx wrote the Everything Is Absolutely Groovy Manifesto.
Yeah, USA! Get it together with some of that good racially pure communist one-party action (oh, & another 700,000,000 or so people to draft your athletes from), why dontcha?
G3T A BRA1N M0RANS.
And Betty Friedan’s The Feminine Mystique was nothing but, “Men are better than us. We should continue to devote our lives to doting on them 24/7” over and over again.
That is indeed very admirableebooble.
Who’s “China Jim”? Is he an acquaintance of Indiana Jones?
And you leave India’s little athlete alone! It’s not his fault he’s small!
Exactly. Race purity, not. Numbers make winner.
Little athletes try harder.
Try “big budget plus big pool of talent plus big brutal disregard for basic human rights of said athletes” not race purity makes winner. India doesn’t operate under a “do better next time – because we know where your family lives, if you get what we mean, comrade” model, China does.
Uh oh, epic Aryan betrayal on Aisle Four … & you’re idiotic enough to think that China – a historic hub of world trade & migration since prehistory – is a racially pure country?
Just so you know: I’m laughing AT you now, not WITH you.
Each country listed has both a relatively cold climate in winter as well as a culture that places achievement in winter sports as a source of national pride?
I’m sure you wouldn’t say racial purity as the answer to your question. Canada is actually quite diverse, to the point where the motto of Toronto is “Diversity Our Strength”. Saying racial purity would be dumb, and I know you’re not dumb or anything.
“Race purity not numbers makes winner.”
Shittiest fortune cookie ever.
Because the Trobriand Islands luge team was otherwise engaged.
Well, well well! If it isn’t the reincarnated spirit of Dr.Goebbels himself!
Look, I know you popularised the Olympic flame, as well as the Olympic rings. But really. Why don’t you just give it up?
The secret isn’t “racial purity”. The secret is a totalitarian government, you arse. The Soviet Union beat the yanks in the medal count for decades, despite being “racial mongrel” as you put it. As a good Nazi I rather doubt you would consider the Bolshevik homeland “racially pure”.
Kindly piss off.
Am I herring that correctly, RR’s gay?
We don’t go on Norwegian sites and spout nonsensical gibberish. Please return the favour.
Heh heh, he said norks.
I myself am completely racially pure, except that one of my great-great-grandfathers was a sea cucumber.
I’m racially purée.
Mr. Godwin didn’t plan for situations in which one of the commenters is genuinely a Nazi.
Whilst growing cucumbers in the sea removes the possibility of slug damage it does create other problems. My grandfather was a cucumber diver and he had terrible tales of Krakens coming to eat them.
English is not my first language. I come from Norway.
Didn’t know Pam Geller’s little buddy Anders Breivik had Internet privileges again.
It’s Norway or the doorway, looney libs!!
Goddamned Krakens are racially impure sea-mongrels who often mate with the Irish.
You don’t know how right you are.
She missed the perfect opportunity to use the phrase “Let them eat cake”…Just proves her point that the R’s need work on sloganeering…
Goddamned Krakens are racially impure sea-mongrels who often mate with the Irish.
I larfed.
Goddamned Krakens are racially impure sea-mongrels who often mate with the Irish.
Sea-cucumbers themselves are also noted for their mongrelaciousness. Let me refer you to the larval transfer hypothesis.
English is not my first language. I come from Norway.
And I come from the fourth planet of the Epsilon Eridani system.
Of course you do, but is English your first language, or not?
Why are winter Olympic champions always Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland etc?
Ah, ethnically-homogeneous Finland. Do you think Trollypants knows how many official languages are recognised there? Or in Norway, come to that?
you’re idiotic enough to think that China – a historic hub of world trade & migration since prehistory – is a racially pure country?
Troll is idiotic enough to forget the various ethnic secessionist movements there, being repressed with ruthless brutality by the central government who want very much to hang on to their imperial perquisites.
is English your first language, or not?
Gibberish.
Blind pig almost finds an acorn:
“In real-life terms, Republicans will talk a thing to death”
Now if she’d just stopped the sentence right there…
Goddamned Krakens are racially impure sea-mongrels who often mate with the Irish.
So that’s the origin of the surname McKraken!
English is not my first language. I come from Norway.
I’d be happy to grant you seven feet of good English ground, Harald Halfassa.
Librulz: “Everything’s fine (environmentally speaking)! Go Green (in order to unnecessarily fix what is already fine) ! Furthermore, as a librul grunty-grunter, I eschew the validity of scientific facts and actual knowledge for the monosyllabic sloganeering of a vocal, shouty minority. Er, wait… Grunt!”
He comes from the land of the ice and snow
Where the crosses burn and the races go
Their own way
Hanging on to the imperial perquisite.
Can you really blame them? Who among us has not dreamt of interbreeding with a nimble and compliant acorn worm?
Why are winter Olympic champions always Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland etc?
Short answer – because it fucking snows there.
This has been another edition of “Short Answers to Incredibly Stupid Questions”.
Unleash the Kraken who has sex on the first date!
Well, Breitbart has at least gotten more sober since his demise.
Debatable, especially since he’s lost all that body mass…
Goddamned Krakens are racially impure sea-mongrels who often mate with the Irish.
I thought those were selkies.
Yeah, Kraken is Norwegian for “lap pinkie”, so I’m guessing they more often mate, or try to, with disappointed Norwegians.
Well, Breitbart has at least gotten more sober since his demise.
They’ll be fractionally distilling the crypt after it cooks for a few years. Anticipated breakdown:
37% Phillips Scotch
25% Crystalline Marching Powder
24% Stupid (Amalgam of Stupid, Dumbness Bi-Carbonate, Preservatives, Extract of Evil)
11% Don Johnson® Five-O’Clock Shadow Blend, Now with Retsyn©!
3% Racial Impurities (Unknown quantities of Norwegian, Xenu-sian)
okay, this is how awesome the daughter is…last night we no sooner arrived at the street dance when she bumped into a dude (literally) and he bought us all drinks…after a few minutes of chatting, we are now the proud owner of four twins tix…legends club tix no less…
Release the Krakens. Might as well.
Is Ann-Marie talking about the same Republicans whose favorite slogan this election cycle has been #ObamaEatsDog?
And, dessert whatever. While it’s mixed with some racism, misogyny, xenophobia, bigotry and homophobia, the main Republican goal is NEVER PAY ANY TAXES EVAH ALL THE MUNIES IN ARE POCKETZ!!!11eleventy!!
Librulz: “Everything’s fine (environmentally speaking)! Go Green (in order to unnecessarily fix what is already fine) ! Furthermore, as a librul grunty-grunter, I eschew the validity of scientific facts and actual knowledge for the monosyllabic sloganeering of a vocal, shouty minority. Er, wait… Grunt!”
Yeah, to the wingnut mind the environment is fine and all is well therefore any librul concern for it is faked and a ruse to bring on the UN black helicopters or some such.
That we could be seriously concerned that we are shitting in our own nest and that the science backs this up has not even occurred to them even as a fleeting thought.
Nope, it’s all politics and economics to them. The fact that humans are as dependent on the biosphere as any other species is as arcane to them as the Higgs Boson.
They are going to fuck us all.
Why are mongrels so much smarter – & healthier – than purebreds?
Methinks someone’s Racial Purity ointment doth contain a fly.
ARF!
That we could be seriously concerned that we are shitting in our own nest and that the science backs this up has not even occurred to them even as a fleeting thought.
oh stop with all that sciencey stuff…free market jeebus gave them the universe to do what they will with it…this is pre-ordained and in the ol’ testicle or sumting..
Republicans equal vegetables if you are the type of person who considers ketchup a vegetable. Although, I believe, under the current administration, most of those people have recanted that beleif and now believe mayonaise is a vegetable.
Admittedly, it’s Republicans who send the mind-bogglingly long emails with forty or so unresearched points about why Obama is the wurst preznint evah. So there’s that.
That we could be seriously concerned that we are shitting in our own nest and that the science backs this up has not even occurred to them even as a fleeting thought.
What part of “dead magical hippy moonwalking down a rainbow any day now so he can start handing out Mulligan Certificates & Blowjob Coupons” don’t you get, you crazed secular-humanism-infected liberalist fanatic?!?!?!?////!!?!?.?
“Let the good times roll” is an especially risky message for African-Americans. The plain fact is that they tend to possess poorer native judgment than members of better-educated groups. Thus they need stricter moral guidance from society
You seem to be confusing African-Americans with Republicans and rednecks.
Yeah, Kraken is Norwegian for “lap pinkie”, so I’m guessing they more often mate, or try to, with disappointed Norwegians.
As Cthulhu is my witness, I thought she was a Japanese fisherwoman.
Behold, foolish mortals, I have the power to make neo-nazis disappear with the press of a button!
Mother, you won’t recognize me now.
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Goddamned Krakens are racially impure sea-mongrels who often mate with the Irish.
Aye, ’tis true. I took many a hump. But ’twas all in fun!!
Handsome scooter there Jeffraham.
You seem to be confusing African-Americans with Republicans and rednecks.
Hey y’all! Hold mah beer and watch this!
OK, JP, cool scooter but not being at all informed about scooterine things, I have a question. I see the long seat thingie has a bump in it. Is That the actual Butt Seat? Or what?
A “joy stick.”
I shot the threadiff
But I dd not shoot the threaduty.
’tis but a flesh wound
*Puts a bullet in this dead horse*
OK, JP, cool scooter but not being at all informed about scooterine things, I have a question. I see the long seat thingie has a bump in it. Is That the actual Butt Seat? Or what?
That’s what the rider’s coccyx should be pressed against when in a comfortable riding position. Being 5’9″, I can say this scooter fits me like a glove. And I got to type coccyx. 🙂
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Of course, I started a new scooter bloggie. Going to keep KymCojones for a while, but it will likely fade after a time.
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Why are winter Olympic champions always Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland etc?
I dunno. Why not ask South Korea, which came FIFTH OVERALL in the 2010 medal table, with NINETEEN GOLD MEDALS, ya dumb fuck?
Err, SIX GOLD MEDALS. Sorry, brainfart, general point still stands.
OK, JP, cool scooter
sweet ride, jp…what did you name her?
funneh comment mango:
Ann-Marie Murrell: Yes & NO! Truth of the matter is that DEMOCRAT EQUALS MARXISM(ANTI-CHRIST) & the DEVIL & REPUBICANS EQUAL DREAMERS, or people that wish the Democrats were not evil! Only because that’s the 70%er’s & Super-Majority that run our country into the debt of hell. Just saying…
Such Clarity. Can’t argue with that.
Well did you know that in a few years people who haven’t bought Obama’s health insurance will have to pay a fine of up to $695 per year? If you think you can’t afford to pay for health insurance right now, can you afford to pay almost $700 for nothing?
I was actually shocked to find out the
penaltytax (thus sayeth SCOTUS) was so low. I was expecting something a little more, um, significant. Especially considering that a person at the upper limit of where the subsidies will kick in would be expected to pay up to about $3000 for health insurance. To me that is the big story that I would go with to undermine “Obama-care” (why am I giving GOoPers free advice?) — the gummint expects someone making $45K/year to pay over $3000/year for health insurance, and that is quite a lot!That being said, the whole mandate is politically stupid and a great mess besides (what can I say — it’s an idea from the heritage foundation). My big question comes as far as documentation is concerned: what if you cannot find health insurance for less than 7.5% of your income? Do you have to document your search (like you have to document your job searching efforts to get unemployment insurance)? What if an employer can’t find “affordable health insurance” for her employees? How can the employer document this to avoid a penalty?
You are looking at this like a voter, a citizen and a healthcare consumer. This bill wasn’t written for you. You need to read it like an HMO or health insurance company. For them, 7.5% of your income isn’t near enough. The pessimist in me thinks that if you aren’t willing to pay up to 25% of your gross income, the people who get the joy of enforcing this bill are still going to zing you with a penalty.
I assume the 7.5% came form the tax code, since that’s the threshold for health-care deductibility. Doesn’t mean it’s right, of course, just that this number has a history.
My big question comes as far as documentation is concerned: what if you cannot find health insurance for less than 7.5% of your income? Do you have to document your search (like you have to document your job searching efforts to get unemployment insurance)? What if an employer can’t find “affordable health insurance” for her employees? How can the employer document this to avoid a penalty?
I suspect that these “can’t find” questions will not hinge on documentation of searching, but rather on whether the local market offers insurance for less than 7.5% of income. If you can’t be turned down for preexisting conditions, and you’ve stated your income and locale, and insurance companies’ rates and policies are public, then the search can be assumed. The question becomes whether you could possibly find insurance, not whether you searched.
But of course I don’t know how it’ll all work.
The question becomes whether you could possibly find insurance, not whether you searched. – Golem Heart
In which case, we’re screwed. You do know the joke about the $0.50 bialy, don’t you?
OK, I guess I’ll “tell” it:
Customer: Why are you selling bialys for $1.00 when Steinberg down the street is selling them for $0.50?
Bergstein: OK. Buy them from Steinberg then.
Customer: I can’t. Steinberg’s out of bialys.
Bergstein: Aha! When I’m out of bialys, I too sell them for $0.50.
IOW, there is nothing to stop plans from being “available” until you actually try to purchase them. Call me cynical, but I have every reason to believe that the powers that be, if they want to undermine “Obamacare” (even if it is a gravy train for the insurers, by mandating purchasing of their products, it won’t stop them from making things miserable to ensure that there is no political support for further reform … as “look at how badly Obamacare turned out”), can make things very, very bad, given how the law is written.
Breaking news: Mitt says (1) god prefers Israelis to Palestinians, (2) Palestinians have a culture that doesn’t support success, and (3) jews are good with money. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/30/1115012/-Romney-couldn-t-order-a-hamburger-without-insulting-the-ketchup-or-the-mustard-If-not-both
It’s like an unassisted double play. Just think, when he gets to Poland he can try for the triple play by insulting the Poles, Germans, and Russians simultaneously.
Don’t sell Mitt short. Anyone can insult the Poles, the Germans, and the Russians, but Romney’s man enough to do all that and offend the Wends.
No, I meant insult all three in one sentence, the way he did the Israelis and Palestinians.
Classic, DAS.
I share a good deal of your cynicism about how the mandate will be implemented. I think very few people will pay the penalty, but those who do should understand that they’re textbook “free riders,” not people who are paying $695 for nothing. Where we’ll get screwed is in the many new policies that people will be able to afford for less than 7.5% of their income. There will be a window between too poor to pay and wealthy enough to afford a decent policy. Within that window, the insurance companies will shaft you, which is why they wanted the mandate. At the low end, they will benefit from subsidies …
But then, the ACA also limits their profits to 15% or something … it occurs to me that alot of money could be made by engineering a profit margin of greater than 15% and then earning interest on the excess until it’s time to mail out rebate checks.
No, I meant insult all three in one sentence, the way he did the Israelis and Palestinians.
Too bad he didn’t insult the Egyptians, it could have been a yarmulke trick.
a yarmulke trick.
You get a good stiff yarmulke, it’s like Odd Job returns when you fling it on the ice. You can take the goalie’s head off if you get enough spin.
You get a good stiff yarmulke…
Usually if I have a cold shower and drink a tall glass of water, it goes away.
also, fling the yarmulke
Within that window, the insurance companies will shaft you, which is why they wanted the mandate.
wait, what? the insurance companies called for the mandate? then why are all the wingers whinging?
also, too…i know the gun debate was a couple of posts ago, but i read this yesterday and thought it worthwhile…
Breaking news: Mitt says […] (3) jews are good with money – N__B
I suspect that the Republicans in my shul will claim this is evidence that Romney is the real pro-Israel candidate in this race and that any good Jew should thus vote for Romney. Of course, if Obama were to say the same things (about Jews and money) that Romney said, it would just be evidence that Obama is secretly an anti-Israel anti-Semite. And “DAS, you have to understand … I’m not racist, some of my best friends of black. Diana [DAS’s wife], for instance … and that other young lady who attends our shul occasionally” “Laura?”, “yes, Laura”
I’m not racist, some of my best friends of black.
I know Shirley Temple Black.
From the Daily KOS article:
Funny, that’s also the difference in foreign aid from the US taxpayers. I wonder if Romney will tell the Isrealis that if they want to keep getting “free stuff” they’d better hope the other candidate wins.
Heh, it looks like I got stuck on the whole Bigfoot Isreal meme. Now I have a hard time typing Israel.
Sticking on Bigfoot.
From bbkf’s link:
Except, E.J., in spite of what your erstwhile interlocutor Bobo sometimes seems like he’s claiming about conservatives just wanting smarter and less onerous regulations, today’s right and their corporate backers would respond to your arguments about “why do we bother” with “well, those regulations should be done away with as well”. The reactionaries don’t just want gun makers to have unlimited opportunities to profit without any regulatory burdens, they want all tycoons to be able to thus profit in the absence of regulation. And they are willing to, if you’ll pardon the pun, shoot themselves in the foot to get those (short term) profits: they don’t realize that if all your customers have are maimed anyway due to defective products and have no money besides, they won’t buy your products or use your services, so there goes your money.
You’d think, at the very least, they’d have learned that lesson with what’s happening in Europe, but the media is going out of its way to ensure that nobody realizes that Germany can’t continue to be rich making stuff if the Greeks don’t have money to buy it. Fortunately, at least at the level of political units, in this country (unlike in Europe) those most opposed in principle to wealth transfers are the one’s benefitting the most from interstate wealth transfers, so it isn’t as if Mississippi will go bankrupt leaving New York banks in the lurch because the GOoPers won’t let the feds transfer wealth from NY to MS.
The GOoPers are at least not that short-sighted. But still, if GOoPers were into conservation, they’d be the ones telling the Fraggles to stop sinning by eating Doozer constructions … so just wait … the next Anne-Marie Murrell column will compare us conservation-minded Democrats to the sanctimonious Fraggle (which one was that? I forget) who got the other Fraggles to stop eating Doozer constructions (because they are made of veggies or some such and the GOP is the party of veggies?) … why? because in GOoPer-land, it’s always projection!
Funny, that’s also the difference in foreign aid from the US taxpayers. I wonder if Romney will tell the Isrealis that if they want to keep getting “free stuff” they’d better hope the other candidate wins. – ThreadBear
I actually know a libertarian-type (in my synagogue) who is at least consistent about foreign aid, even when it comes to Israel. As he’ll point out, all this aid to Israel is not something committed Zionists should be happy about: after all, the whole point of Zionism is that we Jews need to have a sovereign state of our own. In a sense, it is a betrayal of Zionism for Israel to even be seen as a client state of the US (as all the money* they get from us tends to get people thinking).
*even if in the grand scheme of things it’s not all that much and people only focus on that slice of our foreign aid budget rather than all of our other perhaps debatable expenditures based on a double standard in regards to Israel, just as I am sure a lot of disdain by the right for foreign aid to places other than Israel is pretty much based on racism
If regulation is futile, why do we bother to regulate safety in so many other ways?
Seriously, how many pro-gun nuts buy this argument when it’s made made about pot?
Also too: MADE.
When a housekeeper joins La Cosa Nostra: a made maid.
Also too: MADE.
is there a point to be made?
Also too: MADE.
Don’t get made, get even.
“Except, E.J., in spite of what your erstwhile interlocutor Bobo sometimes seems like he’s claiming about conservatives just wanting smarter and less onerous regulations,”
Ugh, I hate that claim. If conservatives want reasonable regulations, they can just say so, legislate so, etc. But they don’t do either. I have seen Brooks make the claim, but there is no basis for it, except — conservatives have often argued for regulations benefiting themselves. In this regard, they’re like self-interested folks of any description, cloaking their primary motivations.
When people say they’re acting in a principled manner, my question is whether they stand to gain something, or lose something. Those who stand to gain can talk about principles all they want, but it doesn’t mean much. Get back to me when you care so much about (say) “smarter and less onerous regulations” that you’re willing to take a risk or a loss. This rule works really well re: tax cuts. I’m not saying a position that benefits me is always wrong, just that it’s unseemly to describe it as entirely principled.
Bankers say this about finance. Manufacturers say this about OSHA. Mines say this about MHSA and pollution laws. Auto manufacturers say this about any kind of standard for mileage and safety. Farmers and ranchers say this about food safety. (some) Pilots say this about the FAA. And on and on. Not liking a regulation does not make a danger that a regulation is designed to mitigate go away.
Regulation does cost money, regulation does impose a barrier to entry into a given field or occupation. But the point is paying cash up front from the regulated industry rather than human life, down the road from the citizenry. And from that standpoint, regulating guns is a pretty easy argument to make.
I’m guessing somebody here has already pointed this out, but if so I missed it. Which means it didn’t really happen and I’m free to point this out again:
PENIS
When people say they’re acting in a principled manner, my question is whether they stand to gain something, or lose something.
If somebody tries to tell you it’s not about the money, it’s the principle of the thing; nine times out of ten, it’s the money.
The fact is, those stringent regulations have to be there, because otherwise, how could conservatives make us all richer by abolishing them?
I don’t notice a lot of people saying this when they stand to lose money from the principle of the thing.
Guess which Supreme supports the right to bare hand held rocket launchers?
If somebody tries to tell you it’s not about the money, it’s the principle of the thing; nine times out of ten, it’s the money.
Also known as the “John McClane Villain Rule.”
Gary Ruppert just invented Zen Reaganomics.
Guess which Supreme supports the right to bare hand held rocket launchers?
I saw that. Rocket launchers? OK, because you can “bear” (ie carry in your arms) them.
Head axes? Not OK because even though you can “bear” them, they were banned at the time of the writing of the constitution by certain by-laws.
The inside of Scalia’s head must be a frightening and twisty place. Not only is this argument internally contradictory, the argument used in the second piece (about the axes) would also supply a proof that the 13th Amendment doesn’t really ban slavery, since slavery was legal when it was written.
This made me think of the meme from the Bush/Gore (rigged) contest.
Bush speaks like a 5 year old, and Gore speaks as if he’s addressing a 5 year old.
I dunno why Scalia does interviews. It’s not like he’s trying to convince anybody. His schtick seems to be that he gets it and you don’t and it sucks to be you.
“WALLACE: How do you decide that [hand-held rocket launchers might be covered by the 2nd amendment] if you’re a textualist?
SCALIA: Very carefully.”
And regarding the phrase “bear arms” — it’s a funny thing, “speech” can be interpreted as giving money for the equivalent of a megaphone, but if I bear my arms on a tank or a truck, why that’s just not literal enough for Scalia.
Don’t sell Mitt short. Anyone can insult the Poles, the Germans, and the Russians, but Romney’s man enough to do all that and offend the Wends.
UPPER or LOWER Sorbs???!
it is a betrayal of Zionism for Israel to even be seen as a client state of the US
Is it OK if it’s the other way around?
Is it OK if it’s the other way around?
De facto or de jure?
Also, too, in this article over at Charlie’s place, he uses…well, “also, too.”
Did that start here? I’ve seen it over at Tboggs place too, in the comments. It’d be awesome to find out I was a teeny tiny part of an actual internet tradition.
I dunno why Scalia does interviews. It’s not like he’s trying to convince anybody. His schtick seems to be that he gets it and you don’t and it sucks to be you.
His entire career pretty much boils down to trolling.
If it were somehow possible, I’d love to see the entire original “work” framed and placed as fig. 1 next to “Projection” in the Big Book of Psychology Terms.
Because seriously. Wow. This may as well have come from an alternate universe where Bizarro Obama was just finishing up hosting the televised the hanging of arch-liberal Bizarro Cheney.
From W.C.’s Charles Pierce link:
“This so-called climate science is just ridiculous,” said Kelly Khuri, founder of the Clark County Tea Party Patriots. “I think it’s all cyclical.” “Carbon regulation, cap and trade, it’s all just a money-control avenue,” Ms. Khuri added. “Some people say I’m extreme, but they said the John Birch Society was extreme, too.”
Touché! … But remember, folks, the Teabaggers are just a cross-section of disgruntled patriots of all persuasions.
Did that start here? I’ve seen it over at Tboggs place too, in the comments. It’d be awesome to find out I was a teeny tiny part of an actual internet tradition.
i dunno, but it always reminds me of this…
“Some people say I’m extreme, but they said the John Birch Society was extreme, too.”
That is AWESOME. I want that on a sampler. In fact, I want to turn it into a game:
Some people say I’m extreme, but they said that about…
…Robespierre
…Lavrentiy Beria
…Savonarola
…Pol Pot
Did that start here? I’ve seen it over at Tboggs place too, in the comments. It’d be awesome to find out I was a teeny tiny part of an actual internet tradition.
i also learned today that the founding fathers were just ‘average joes’ and they wrote the constitution for the rest of us ‘average joes’…
Did that start here?
My understanding was that it’s a Palinism.
it’s a Palinism.
Fine. Burst my interbubble.
That is AWESOME. I want that on a sampler. In fact, I want to turn it into a game:
Some people say I’m extreme, but they said that about…
caligula
Some people say I’m extreme, but they said that about trepanning.
Rocket launcher relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vCww3j2-w
Is it OK if it’s the other way around? – Smut Clyde
Well, it certainly does undermine one of the original goals of ZIonism: It was supposed to “normalize” the status of the Jewish people, not re-enforce “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” stereotypes. At the very least, it was supposed to be a movement of “well, if you don’t like us in your countries, we’ll just go back where we came from” and nothing more.
That being said, the kind of Jew that votes GOP tends to be (in my experience) someone who is a bit too comfortable with certain anti-Semitic stereotypes. Some will even say things like “well if the goyim think we are going to [steal land from Palestinians/engage in unethical business practices/whatever] anyway, we might as well do it”. The idea that maybe bad behavior re-enforces certain stereotypes that might otherwise die away is dismissed (to some extent correctly, although the people doing the dismissal are oftentimes the first to do this to others — so there is a major Hillel’s golden rule following fail involved) as “victim blaming”. So, yep, there are some Jews that are not so secretly happy to be perceived as so powerful that the US is perceived as a client state of Israel (psychology has a name for such people …). Of course, these same GOoPer-yidden that all but brag about how powerful are Israel and the Israel lobby as the same people who took the most offense at Walt & Mearsheimer’s accusations about the Israel-lobby.
That being said, I do personally tend to feel that perceptions of the Israel lobby as all powerful and of the US as acting always in Israel’s interests are a bit too close to comfort to some good, old-fashioned anti-Semitism. Interestingly, sometimes when the US is arguably acting in Israel’s interests (and the GOoPer-yidden try to brow-beat the rest of us Jews into supporting whatever the US is doing because “as a good Jew you should support something good for Israel”), what the US is doing is precisely the opposite of what should be done in terms of Israel’s security and long-term peace (how, for example, was the invasion of Iraq good for Israel?).
Sometimes I wonder if certain policies are sold as being good for Israel not only to get the GOoPer-yidden (with more money than sense) on board (and donating to the GOP) and to get the fundies on board but also to ensure that any opposition to the policy could potentially venture into “see the US is acting as a client state for Israel” territory and thus ensure that the opposition to whatever icky plan the GOoPers are pushing can be dismissed as anti-Semitic.
But then again, I may just be paranoid and cynical (c.f. my comments above about how the health insurance companies can make reform look bad).
Some people say I’m extreme, but they said that about trepanning.
well, the game’s over now…can’t get much more extreme than that…
Haha there are some killer quotes at that site:
“Trepanation therapists and doctors have conflicting views on trepanation. Though doctors disagree and say it’s dangerous. You expose your precious brain, you remove God’s covering, there’s a risk of infection and all sorts of other problems. Brain doctors seem to view this invasion of the cranium’s hallowed realm as a violation of some universal taboo. More to the point, they don’t approve of amateurs dipping their fingers into the neurochemical soup. But they readily agree on one point: a hole is the starting point for all neurosurgical procedures. Trepanation is performed, for example, to evacuate hemorrhages and to relieve pressure in the cranial cavity caused by cerebral ulcers. But, for neurosurgeons, the hole is a means to an end, and they put the bone back in place.”
Bush speaks like a 5 year old, and Gore speaks as if he’s addressing a 5 year old.
So good it has to be repeated.
Actually, I have long wondered if Al Gore and Dr. Phil are really the same person. And whether Al Gore/Dr. Phil was the basis for Forest Gump:
“my name is Al Gore, but people call me Al Gore”
But, for neurosurgeons, the hole is a means to an end, and they put the bone back in place.
Those silly neurosurgeons. Why bother putting the bone back in place? What’s the point. Just removing the piece of bone and leaving it removed is an age old custom. All this new-fangled putting pieces of bone back “science” is just a faddish academic theory ( / conservative talking about what medical insurance should cover … and it isn’t “rationing” or “denial of care” or “death panels” if private enterprise does it … only if the government does it)
“The ancestors of modern Europeans, the Battle-Ax people, were prodigious trepanners as well as were all other ancient peoples.”
Yes, DAS, neurosurgeons put those chunks of bone back in order to drive up surgery costs. Those money-grubbing bastards could not care less if your brainbloodvolume is too high, or if spirits remain trapped in your skull.
and all sorts of other problems
hmmmm, you don’t say…wonder what those could be…bird poop would be one of them i imagine…
Brain doctors seem to view this invasion of the cranium’s hallowed realm as a violation of some universal taboo.
Oh yeah, totally, that’s Brain Surgery 101, day 1.
Unless you’re putting in a rose window, of course, but that’s not covered til later in the course.
Unless you’re putting in a rose window, of course, but that’s not covered til later in the course.
is that anything like that window they put in a cow’s stomach so you can watch the wonders of the bovine disgestive system?
I think the stained glass is better to look out of than look in through, but they should probably consider upgrading their cow windows for more aesthetic appeal. Shutters, maybe? Ooh, glass block.
The problem with trepanning is getting your barber to cut your hair in such a way as to emphasize your window but not gaudily feature it.
When trepanation goes wrong.
When trepanation goes wrong.
So that’s how they get popes!
That being said, I do personally tend to feel that perceptions of the Israel lobby as all powerful and of the US as acting always in Israel’s interests are a bit too close to comfort to some good, old-fashioned anti-Semitism.
Oh yes. But Romney seems to be doing his best to encourage that perception, with his recent promises to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel as soon as Netanyahu tells him to,* and to obtain Netanyahu’s approval for all foreign policies before announcing them.
* Apparently nations have the right to choose their own capital. Cthulhu willing, when Romney reaches Poland some journalist will ask him whether he approves of the idea of Germany shifting their capital to Danzig.
Romney is like an extraterrestrial Chance that grew up watching Fox news. I hope the Republicans learned their lesson and choose a completely batshit nobody from the bowels of the Tea Party to run in the next presidential election.
Poe.
“USA need racially-aware authoritarian state capitalism, not more multi-culti parliamentary degeneracey.”
USA — putting the “racy” back in “degeneracy” since 1776.
Note the correct spelling, genius.
I thought US and China were tied at 17 medals?
I thought US and China were tied at 17 medals?
But the medals are made in China, so WE LOSE.
Or possibly WE LOOSE, depending on whether he’s actually a Poe.
Poe.
Starting at the top and working your way down works pretty damn well, though, I will give it that. Another beer would also not be amiss.
Starting at the top and working your way down works pretty damn well, though, I will give it that.
When did we start talking about sex?
When did we stop?
No pics but I’ll tell ya, the street of (yes, singular) Garberville CA is lined with tweakers. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
~2000 miles down, ~400 to go.
So, I’m having a coffee in Eureka and I haven’t seen even one dope deal. So disappointed.
When did we stop?
I usually stop when I’m asleep.
I usually stop when I’m asleep.
Pshaw, when the going gets freaky, the freaky get going. Or something.
Racial R/O, have you heard of trepanation? It’s a cool racially-aware way to feel happier and more energetic. It is ingrained in our history. The ancestors of modern Europeans, the Battle-Ax people, were prodigious trepanners.
Pshaw, when the going gets freaky, the freaky get going.
I did. once, many years ago, wake up without the woman I had fallen asleep next to but with various portions of my skin and hair dyed green. Despite the resultant PTSD, I still sleep.
But no longer on the B train.
It’s very romantic that you married her anyway.
I needed the antidote before I turned into the Swamp Thing!
Hubba hubba.
I did. once, many years ago, wake up without the woman I had fallen asleep next to but with various portions of my skin and hair dyed green.
I’ve apparently led a boring life.
The ancestors of modern Europeans, the Battle-Ax people, were prodigious trepanners.
Is that what they called “Splitting your neighbor’s head open with an axe” back in the day?
Or your sleep is less sound than mine used to be.
They may have tried, but my snoring was so bad they accidentally dyed the wall instead.
Check out Joseph Nobles’ link in the last thread. I just can’t get over “I’m part of the 100%…”
Nice: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021047351
I’m getting that printed on a t-shirt.
in the struggle for existence and domination that is national life it is first, or you LOSE.
Herr Goebbels, is that you?
Sturm und Drank
I believe, ma’am, you meant “dreck.”
I wish I could drank, but I have to work – the chickens won’t fly themselves to Indy tonight.
I meant the syrup-y kind, but radical racists are probably drowning in both. Or so one can hope.
Latin Mestizo women are already interbreeding with low class redneck men, this will be your downfall.
But the global soap opera revenues on this will be HUGE. Prosperity > corner.
Dr. Goebbels created the modern Olympics. A great man and great White.
The inspiring victory of the Wehrmacht over the degenerate Slavic hordes of Russia proves the validity of Aryan race science!
Nice: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021047351
what the duchess said? i’m getting THAT printed on a tshirt…and wearing it every motherfucking day…
And Goebbels did it before he was even born, that’s how fucking amazing he was.
A great man and great White.
great white way? great white shark? great white north? what?!
I thought the wily Chinee were winning it all? Oh poop, bedtime. Hope I don’t wake up green! That would be a real radical racial realignment!
The inspiring victory of the Wehrmacht over the degenerate Slavic hordes of Russia proves the validity of Aryan race science!
Not to mention being the basis for much __B cosplay. “Prepare to feel my Panzer division, degenerate Slavic wench!”
Hope I don’t wake up green!
Did you meet your bed-partner in a 10th Avenue dive? No? Then you’re probably okay.
jeepers…how do i get sucked in to watching the godfather everytime?
sweet ride, jp…what did you name her?
We call it Tranya! Hahahahaha!
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And a close shave is NORELCO.
We call it Tranya! Hahahahaha!
i don’t get it…
Latin Mestizo women are already interbreeding with low class redneck men
One can only hope this improves the redneck breed. Lord knows there’s not much way to go but up.
The Olympic Flame is
NORIDCFABULOUS.Rainbowed that up for ya, sweetie pie.
Is that part of the Olympics? It sounds more interesting than water polo.
“I wish I could drank, but I have to work – the chickens won’t fly themselves to Indy tonight.”–Major Kong
Do you fly nothing but chickens? How did you attain the rank of major?
i don’t get it…
I got it all FU’d, but anyway…
JP, your scoot looks like a sweet little ride. Hope it carries you far and safely.
Latin Mestizo women are already interbreeding with low class redneck men
Not bloody fast enough, they aren’t. I’d easily trade my family history of melanoma for a nice tan and some sweet salsa moves, no problemo.
Do you fly nothing but chickens? How did you attain the rank of major?
Actually I’m a Lt. Colonel (retired). Major Kong was the B-52 pilot in the movie Dr. Strangelove. I did fly B-52s in the Air Force at one time.
I fly freight, which often includes chickens and other live birds. I just find it humorous to be flying chickens around.
One should wonder what republicans believe should be done about all the lazy people who are negatively incentivized by enough money to sleep outside under a folded cardboard box while eating gourmet cat food. Considering the extravagance of such people, it may be more efficient to make it against the law to be poor. Greater savings could be realized if the poor weren’t incarcerated, but were executed on the spot by an officer or any government official who learns the person is a low-life broke dick. Of course, there will be some collateral damage that is acceptable because of the ghetto or rural wastelands where they arrogantly choose to live in poverty that compels them to act desperately.
Where do right-wingers find all the blonde talking heads that are willing to lie, cheat and steal for them? I imagine training sessions where the blondes have smoke blown up their asses about how perceptive, engaging, aware and most importantly, how right they are.
After twenty years of normal people discounting most things blonde-haired people said, it probably feels good to receive any compliment even disingenuous ones from chauvinists. There is a theory, (because I say so,) that blondes in general feel very put upon by society and in full-on victim mode they derive pleasure from deceiving the assholes who didn’t show them proper respect. The pleasure felt from the pain of others is nurtured by the blonde-haired people’s right-wing handlers.
Without wasting too much time on Ayn Rand’s fascist manifesto the right-wing, handlers tell their eager blonde neophytes that it is nature and god’s way to be materialistic and self-centered. The trainers leave their blonde charges with confidence in the knowledge that all non-believers are decadent heretics that must be punished; therefore, they need not concern themselves about betraying the ungrateful sinners.
Maybe it’s real.
Maybe it’s Maybelline™.
I’m really feeling dull-witted and lethargic this morning, I think I need a trepan.
Maybelline!
Why can’t you be real?
Maybelline!
Why can’t you be real?
You’ve started back feeding fish to that seal.
backfeeding the seal…
backfeeding the seal
Well, “Kiss From a Rose” will never sound the same again…
oh, t-paw…you so cool!
And the hits just keep on coming: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-aide-curses-at-press-in-poland
Early morning whoring: destructo-porn at my joint.
And speaking of whoring, I’m on a train heading to the east end of Long Island.
I left work 11 hours ago and I’m just now getting home. I’m fatigued beyond the capacity for rational thought.
That should say “I left for work 11 hours ago”. Told ya I was tired.
You should let the chickens drive once in a while. I’m sure atavistic instincts hidden in the back of the avian brain will allow them to take off, fly an airliner, and land it like it’s dead easy.
Think of the savings, running a plane on chicken feed instead of jet fuel!
Actually I’m a Lt. Colonel (retired). Major Kong was the B-52 pilot in the movie Dr. Strangelove. I did fly B-52s in the Air Force at one time.
I fly freight, which often includes chickens and other live birds. I just find it humorous to be flying chickens around.
I still haven’t seen that movie. I’m 41 and it’s not as if I just heard of it.
I’m sure atavistic instincts hidden in the back of the avian brain will allow them to take off, fly an airliner, and land it like it’s dead easy
avian trepanning?
Avian navigation
Apparently, government run health care can work. Of course, it helps if it’s run by a government that’s not full of Republicans.
Apparently, government run health care can work. Of course, it helps if it’s run by a government that’s not full of Republicans.
good lord…i am expecting him to announce that his running mate is going to be charlie sheen any second now…
I’m thinking of making a bumper sticker especially for the teatards. Something along the lines of:
You can vote for the champion of government run health care OR you can vote for Barrack Obama.
I’m thinking of making a bumper sticker especially for the teatards. Something along the lines of:
You can vote for the champion of government run health care OR you can vote for Barrack Obama.
that would be lots of splodey head action…and imagine the road rage!
i am expecting him to announce that his running mate is going to be charlie sheen any second now…
Rmoney / Sheen 2012
WINNING!
The fact is, Romney never said that. That is liberal bias media reporting, the bias that would not report “you didn’t build that” class warafarin Obomo and sasy socialism is OK, and debt? Yeah, we need to look at 2nd amendemant solutions if November ge3ts stolen by ACORN.
The fact is, the Flash could easily beat Superman in a footrace. It’s not even a contest.
Wonkette cheers us all: http://wonkette.com/479628/i-was-in-fear-yells-florida-man-guns-blazing-after-shooting-person-for-trying-to-sell-him-frozen-steaks#more-479628
Apparently, government run health care can work. – ThreadBear
I continually wonder how elements of the right ever managed to become pro-Israel (I guess the effect of dispensationalism is strong): Zionism was long dominated by socialism and the effects of this continue in Israel to this day. And while Israel does have a religious establishment dominated by complete nuts, the net effect of that domination is that most Israelis are quite secular. Israel has gay rights, big gummint, all sorts of stuff the right hates. So how come they manage to like Israel?
I wonder if they would stop supporting Israel entirely if Israel were to (finally) stop building settlements in the heart of what hopefully will become the first ever viable Palestinian state. I suspect even if Israel annexes historically Jewish areas near the 1948 truce line but otherwise finally helps facilitate a Palestinian state (whether the Palestinians will actually respond with peace or whether what happened when Israel withdrew from the Gaza will repeat itself in the West Bank — which is a large part, IMHO, why nobody in Israel, even the admittedly ever decreasing majority who support a two-state solution, is really pushing peace right now), the right would abandon Israel entirely: I sometimes suspect the only reason they are “pro-Israel” is that they want Israel to start Armegeddon, etc., etc.
And yet I know many Jews who would claim the political right are our friends and the left our enemies? Certainly, I don’t deny that some left wing anti-Zionism really crosses the line into anti-Semitism, but sheeze … are right-wingers really so naive that they think the definition of a friend is someone who supports every crazy and self-destructive idea they have?
+1 to whomever is Gary Ruppert today. I LOLed.
good lord…i am expecting him to announce that his running mate is going to be charlie sheen any second now…
Saw a joke on the FaceBook that he’d picked Exxon Mobil.
In Rmoney Amerikka, Exxon Mobile picks you.
Drill, baby, drill!
Wonkette cheers us all
That all took place about 5 miles from my house. Used to be, all we had to worry about around here was mosquitoes and alligators.
…are right-wingers really so naive that they think the definition of a friend is someone who supports every crazy and self-destructive idea they have?
Not only that; someone who supports those ideas because they’re crazy and self-destructive. Armageddon, end of days, Jesus returning, Rapture, antichrist, etc., doncha know.
That all took place about 5 miles from my house. Used to be, all we had to worry about around here was mosquitoes and alligators.
Well, if any of them try to sell anything in your neighborhood, you should be safe.
The fact is, “Worse than Sarah Palin” is Cockney rhyming slang for political genius WIN.
Bookmark it, liberals!
Armageddon, end of days, Jesus returning, Rapture, antichrist, etc., doncha know. – Bitter Scribe
Of course, Jewish GOoPers don’t believe in that sort of thing. They say “well, it doesn’t matter if the goyim only support us because they are hoping we’ll start Armegeddon. We don’t believe in that, so it won’t happen. We’ll just take whatever support we can get”. Somehow it doesn’t cross their minds that someone supporting you precisely because they figure your policies will bring on a world-ending cataclysm is not a vote of confidence for your policies.
Saw a joke on the FaceBook that he’d picked Exxon Mobil. – tigris
Well, corporations, like Soylent Green, are people … however, how do you calculate the age of a corporation? Is Exxon Mobil’s birthday the day that Exxon and Mobil merged? In that case, ExxonMobil is too young to be president. Or is the birthdate of ExxonMobil, the birthdate of Exxon and/or Mobil? Or is the birthdate the day Standard Oil was formed?
Nor, apparently, that someone who believes you will spend eternity in a lake of fire for your rejection of Christ is a less than reliable ally.
I fell in
To a burning late of goopers
Fell down down down
And their fans get only dumber
So, I’m on the Long Island Railroad on the second leg of my two hour trip back to the city and the person sitting behind me apparently has the eating habits of a hyena. I can’t see without it being obvious, but the wet smacking noises are annoying.
“ExxonMobil is too young to be president”
Flirting with underage oil corporations. Further evidence that Mitt just does not play by the same rules as the rest of us.
I just find it humorous to be flying chickens around.
I am surprised Smut Clyde hasn’t stopped in to suggest a trebuchet.
I am more contemporary, myself. I recommend a chicken cannon.
I am surprised Smut Clyde hasn’t stopped in to suggest a trebuchet.
Time zone issues, I suppose.
You’re all animals
Catapoultry.
The Chicken Cannon was actually a recurring segment on the Canadian political sketch comedy show Royal Canadian Air Farce. They would fire rubber chickens or gross concoctions at cardboard cutouts of politicians and celebrities.
…
I didn’t say it was a good segment.
PS As far as I know, they’re still doing it after all these years. I haven’t watched Air Farce since I was a kid when I realised how hokey the show was.
Possibly the result of a long weather delay for Major Kong?
You should let the chickens drive once in a while
I’m imagining Bill Murray in Groundhog Day except with a chicken perched on the yoke – “Don’t fly angry now!”
gross concoctions at cardboard cutouts of politicians and celebrities.
…
I didn’t say it was a good segment.
How could it not be AWESOME? I would watch that.
If it was the live politicians, I would pay to see it.
Time zone issues, I suppose.
He doesn’t sleep much.
So, I’m on the Long Island Railroad on the second leg of my two hour trip back to the city and the person sitting behind me apparently has the eating habits of a hyena. I can’t see without it being obvious, but the wet smacking noises are annoying.
Umm, sorry. Brains are messy.
They would fire rubber chickens or gross concoctions at … politicians and celebrities.
[frantically shuffling through the design sketches to see it the idea can be incorporated into the Wingnut Processor]
You’re all animals
What’s interesting is that the dude probably has the clearest vision in the Hamptons. I probably wouldn’t want to put his head on a pike. Not first, at least.
[frantically shuffling through the design sketches to see it the idea can be incorporated into the Wingnut Processor]
Perhaps they’re lined up on the edge of the cliff and then blasted off the edge with the chicken cannon, landing in the high-capacity hopper of the Processor?
Obomo and sasy socialism is OK
sassy socialism…it’s not your grandpa’s socialism!
avian trepanning?
Indeed.
I am surprised Smut Clyde hasn’t stopped in to suggest a trebuchet.
Railguns.
sassy socialism…it’s not your grandpa’s socialism!
Not interested unless it’s also FABULOUS!
Not interested unless it’s also FABULOUS!
now with 30% more sass!
Let that be a lesson to all you animals! A chicken make that much money in a month! A chicken!!
Pomo Obomo nono.
OK Officers I’ll come quietly.
Well NOW look what you’ve done. What did this thread ever do to you?
Aw damn, if November is stolen by ACORN, what are we gonna do between October and December?
Search for blind squirrels.
Aw damn, if November is stolen by ACORN, what are we gonna do between October and December?
Give thanks?
New Infuriating Post.