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Justice Roberts — Tragic Figure

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Justice Roberts — Tragic Figure

That’s just ’cause the wingnuts stole his medicine and he’s on the floor foaming.

 
 

In other words, if a Breyer or Kagan had been the swing vote to nullify Obamacare, the outrage from the left would easily trump the present disappointment with Roberts on the right…

And as Marcus Aurelius once observed, “If your aunt had balls, she’d be your uncle.”

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

I wuz reading the “top 5 whingnut theories” on Roberts at TPM and I just don’t get it. They are all pretty much the same, that Roberts feared the liberal media. Or that Roberts feared another tongue lashing by Obama. WTF?

 
Marion in Savannah
 

Nothing about Roberts not wanting to be known as the Taney of his generation?

 
Cato the Censor
 

Victor Davis Hanson should be scourged and then nailed to a cross.

GOP delenda est!

 
 

If one believes all the anonymous, unsourced bullshit, one comes to the conclusion that conservatives should have made Roberts’ life hell BEFORE the decision instead of after.

 
 

And as Marcus Aurelius once observed, “If your aunt had balls, she’d be your uncle.”

Grandma? Is that you?

 
 

Chief Justice John Roberts, a good man who apparently thought he was doing the right thing

whoa…vdh has the temerity to question the chief justice?!? big balls indeed…

 
 

I hope STD Hanson will lead a wingnut impeachment of Roberts.
~

 
Wyatt Watts III
 

Chief Justice John Roberts, a good man who apparently thought he was doing the right thing, is increasingly taking on the character of a lone figure from classical Greek tragedy.

He murdered his father and slept with his mother?

 
 

In other words, if a Breyer or Kagan had been the swing vote to nullify Obamacare, the outrage from the left would easily trump the present disappointment with Roberts on the right…

Of course, this presupposes that liberals have an intense emotional investment in the political figures they support, sorry, VDH, we leave that cult shit to you guys.

If one believes all the anonymous, unsourced bullshit, one comes to the conclusion that conservatives should have made Roberts’ life hell BEFORE the decision instead of after.

They still hope Roberts can call for a mulligan.

 
 

He murdered his father and slept with his mother?

To a wingnut, it’s not far from that- he thwarted Scalia and he cozied up to Kagan.

 
 

mango:

We should have had a huge clue when CJ Roberts thought it ok that Kagan did not recuse herself. That said, it is done. We will fight for November to prevent this (posted under Steyn’s piece just now, but want you to see the stats):

I am a former RN. The concern I have, after the TAX, and “free” healthcare notion, is the lack of timely, life-saving, MRI’s, CT scans and surgeries. This is why Canadians often come to the USA for treatment: in Canada it may take MONTHS for a MRI if an x-ray shows a brain tumor. In the USA you can have this test within days.

If there is a lack of free-market competition, taxes on medical devices (which is part of Obamacare), there will not be as many MRI machines in your area. There, eventually, may not be as many radiologists to read the reports. A few years from now, in states the implement this TAX, you may live to see the bliss of universal healthcare, which we should make it one of our hills to die on to prevent (as it could be the hill we all die on waiting for medical care).

Here are estimates, comparing USA to Canada and the UK for CT scan and MRI equipment options:

USA: It is estimated that there are between 7,000 and 10,000 MRI machines in the US. There are also a number of other machines, frequently referred to as nMR spectrometers, which are essentially the same device, but much smaller and used for chemical analyses.

UK: There were 304 according to a report issued in March 2011

Canada:
There are estimated 222 MRI machines in Canada. 419 CT scanners.
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Basically, Pelosi, Reid and Obama, if this TAX is not repealed, have opened the door to universal healthcare—you know, the healthcare that Brits and Canadians find lacking when they come to the USA for timely treatment. A cardiac surgeon, a decade ago, told me that you are put on a list for cardiac surgery, kidney dialysis, etc. in the UK. If you are lucky, and survive the wait on the list, then you might be saved and live longer after the necessary treatment.

Keeping in mind, as well, the notion that the “poor” do not receive the same healthcare. If you are poor, illegal, or a construction worker who is healthy and does not want to pay for insurance in 2012…you arrive in an American ER with seizures and no previous history of trauma or seizures. In the USA, under Federal EMTALA Law, everyone is treated. You will have a CT scan in the ER—and it is timed stamped, as there are national standards of care. It shows a brain tumor. You will then be seen by a neurologist, a neurosurgeon and an oncologist. More tests will be run. You will have brain surgery to remove the tumor…possibly stereotactic surgery which preserves brain tissue and improves outcome. If needed, you are then sent to a rehab unit after hospital physical therapy is not enough. All of this will be paid by emergency Medicaid or written off by hospitals if you cannot pay even #25/month towards your bill. It is written off and the tax payer already absorbs the burden in each state (I think we pay around $7k/year for illegal’s in Florida, plus their education and jail time). Additionally, there are free clinics, at least in Florida, who see indigent and provide specialist care. Drug companies often write off prescription drugs based on income. You see, charity in the USA already exists! Now these charitable agencies will think twice about absorbing even more Medicaid and “free” healthcare. The WH is correct, this TAX, on paper, only does impact a few, because many will continue to refuse to pay. In reality, this TAX impacts all of the middle class and upper class who work and pay taxes—the burden will be placed on the 50% of taxpayers who do the right thing.

Welcome to their world if the GOP does not win in November:
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Please remember to thank Pelosi, Reid and Obama when the greatest healthcare in the world becomes lowered to the common denominator of universal healthcare.

I will continue to pray for our country’s protection from Obama and his policies.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Chief Justice John Roberts, a good man who apparently thought he was doing the right thing, is increasingly taking on the character of a lone figure from classical Greek tragedy.

He murdered his father and slept with his mother?.

maybe its multiple choice?
Did Justice Roberts:
A) Fly too close to the sun, melting the wax on his wings, which led to a fiery plunge into the Aegean sea?
B) Turn into a swan and rape Leda?
C) Steal fire from the gods, for which he was chained to a rock where an eagle will tear out his liver every day for all of eternity?
D) have the gift of prophecy and the curse that no one would believe him?
E) gather Greece’s mightiest heroes and sail east on the Argo to steal the Golden Fleece?
F) all of the above

 
The Tragically Flip
 

We should have had a huge clue when CJ Roberts thought it ok that Kagan did not recuse herself.

While Justice Thomas on the other hand, who personally stood to profit enormously by his wife’s paid activism to overturn the law, was right to stay in the case because SHUT UP.

 
 

maybe its multiple choice?

you forgot pie…

 
 

OK, that long mango basically boils down to “blah blah blah emergency rooms are already free.”

Sure, except if you happen to own a house, have money in the bank or have any other assets. If you’re treated for a brain tumor with no insurance, you can basically kiss that stuff goodbye. Apparently “you won’t die, you’ll just lose everything” is a good enough level of care for some people. I’m glad this self-described “former RN” is a former RN.

 
Surreal American
 

I was kinda hoping that Scalia would have been tasked with writing the dissenting opinion on the ACA case. Reading that Tony cited as precedent how slave states were never required to provide healthcare would be horror-tainment of the highest order.

 
 

As Livy wisely observed in his chronicle of The Second Punic War:

Victor Davis Hanson is a prattling saggy old tit who dearly needs a good swift boot to the yarbles.

 
 

OK, that long mango basically boils down to “blah blah blah emergency rooms are already free.”

Sure, except if you happen to own a house, have money in the bank or have any other assets. If you’re treated for a brain tumor with no insurance, you can basically kiss that stuff goodbye. Apparently “you won’t die, you’ll just lose everything” is a good enough level of care for some people. I’m glad this self-described “former RN” is a former RN.

right? i looooooove how these wingnuts depict hospitals as being so benevolent that they would just give EVERYbody that walks into the ER the best of medical care, right down to rehab services right that very minute without ever thinking about payment…and i also find it almost endearing that to them “liberty” can mean going bankrupt due to a medical emergency and making the rest of us pay for it in the end…and i furthermore love when self professed nurses or doctors know how every single hospital in the entire country are run…

 
 

He murdered his father and slept with his mother?

Howdy y’all, I’m Oedipus Text…

While Justice Thomas on the other hand, who personally stood to profit enormously by his wife’s paid activism to overturn the law, was right to stay in the case because SHUT UP.

Exactly what I think of whenever one of these mental midgets demands a juustice-who-might-not-agree-with-them recuse him or herself. Well, that and the about 800 million times Scalia didn’t.

 
 

Please remember to thank Pelosi, Reid and Obama when the greatest healthcare in the world becomes lowered to the common denominator of universal healthcare.

Oh, the Exceptionalism card. Obviously, since I disagree with that assertion, I am AntiAmerican and should be burned at the stake.

But, if the US has the greatest health care evar, what does Costa Rica have?!

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

I am a former RN. The concern I have, after the TAX, and “free” healthcare notion,

The TAX that only freeloaders will be required to pay, that TAX?

is the lack of timely, life-saving, MRI’s, CT scans and surgeries. This is why Canadians often come to the USA for treatment: in Canada it may take MONTHS for a MRI if an x-ray shows a brain tumor. In the USA you can have this test within days.

Shut up you stoopid beotch. Stop spreading lies and disinformation. If it’s urgent, you’ll get it immediately. Those people who are coming to the US just don’t want to wait, “ooooh I’m sick pay attention to me I’m dying look look look at me!”

If there is a lack of free-market competition, taxes on medical devices (which is part of Obamacare), there will not be as many MRI machines in your area.

[citation needed]

There, eventually, may not be as many radiologists to read the reports.

Slippery slope starting with a straw man.

A few years from now, in states the implement this TAX, you may live to see the bliss of universal healthcare, which we should make it one of our hills to die on to prevent (as it could be the hill we all die on waiting for medical care).

The slippery slope leads to a well of insanity.

Here are estimates, comparing USA to Canada and the UK for CT scan and MRI equipment options:

USA: It is estimated that there are between 7,000 and 10,000 MRI machines in the US. [USA pop. ~350 M]

UK: There were 304 according to a report issued in March 2011
[England pop. ~50M]
Canada:

There are estimated 222 MRI machines in Canada. 419 CT scanners.
[Canada pop. ~ 34M]

The missing link – i refer to the hyperlink, not the commenter – can’t be examined to see if there is data on excess capacity in equipment or human resources.

[rant including more disinformation and which draws a conclusion in opposition to the rant content, elided]

Let me also just say

Despite much higher spending, U.S. performance
in terms of quality is variable relative to other countries.
While cancer care in the U.S. seems to be of particularly
high quality based on five-year survival rates, the high
rates of hospital admissions for chronic diseases sug-
gest opportunities for improvement. These results echo
previous comparative studies that find the U.S. to have
middling or highly uneven quality. A 2010 cross-national
study conducted by The Commonwealth Fund ranked
the U.S. sixth of seven countries in terms of quality, with
average performance on effectiveness and patient-cen-
teredness and low performance on safety and coordina-
tion.

From: http://www.commonwealthfund.org/~/media/Files/Publications/Issue%20Brief/2011/Jul/1532_Squires_US_hlt_sys_comparison_12_nations_intl_brief_v2.pdf

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

oops – I added the population info, didn’t make that clear.

 
 

Despite much higher spending, U.S. performance
in terms of quality is variable relative to other countries.

But, that doesn’t jive with our Former RN. She said we have the best. I want us to have the best. So we have the best.

 
 

Slippery slope starting with a straw man.

It is the thin edge of the white elephant!

 
 

Please remember to thank Pelosi, Reid and Obama when the greatest healthcare in the world becomes lowered to the common denominator of universal healthcare.

And if not I hope people will remember to thank the crazies who’ve made sure our health care system is pretty sucky unless you’re stinking rich.

 
 

Chief Justice John Roberts, a good man who apparently thought he was doing the right thing, is increasingly taking on the character of a lone figure from classical Greek tragedy.
He murdered his father and slept with his mother?

He answered the Riddle of the Sphincter.

 
 

a lone figure

Relevant?

 
Lurking Canadian
 

In other words, if a Breyer or Kagan had been the swing vote to nullify Obamacare, the outrage from the left would easily trump the present disappointment with Roberts on the right…

Well, that may be true. I am not a lawyer, but as I understand it, Fat Tony and his friends pulled their arguments entirely from their asses. Their reasoning for why the commerce clause doesn’t apply seems to amount to, “Because we said so and no backsies!”

If Justice Kagan had issued a decision utterly not backed by precedent, I imagine there would have been some people angry at her, too.

 
 

Only Americans would only start complaining about $1500/mo being taken out of their paychecks for health care after someone referred to it as a ‘tax’. Merely being gouged for the same amount by private industry is quite unobjectionable.

Everyone should go read my blog. It’s, like, awesome and stuff. Don’t mind the hippie puncher.

 
 

Roberts feared another tongue lashing by Obama. WTF?

Or maybe he was looking forward to one? Except, Roberts may not be aware that (to my knowledge), Obama doesn’t swing his way.

 
 

… feeling crass & shopworn, again leaves cuntpasta of his NRO trolling in lieu of anything funny to say:

jim2011
07/02/12 16:26

Want irony?

With this lament, Hanson joins a vast (& delightfully bipartisan) chorus who are all handwaving for dear life in the face of the real driving force behind the ACA verdict.

Follow the money.

The bill is an epic boon for private corporate healthcare, as well as its non-trivial satellite industries. Becuase the bill also legislates against much of said industries’ previous status quo of casual mass murder & immiseration, this decision favoring it will temporarily elevate the USSC’s current case of “Citizens United Simplex” optics doldrums, but that glow will fade as soon as the truth sinks in that it has again operated in its standard mode as the loyal lickspittle of billionaires.

Also ironic?

Because of both the shift of its basic predicate from care to profit, & the resource drain incurred by its profit margin, the “pro-competition” free market model of healthcare simply can’t compete with public non-profit systems, as any perusal of actuarial stats between nations makes painfully clear. In terms of global competitiveness, the ongoing results for America’s economy are brutal – accidents & illnesses don’t commonly lead to years of poverty or bankruptcy in Germany or Canada or Britain.

 
 

As Livy wisely observed in his chronicle of The Second Punic War:

Victor Davis Hanson is a prattling saggy old tit who dearly needs a good swift boot to the yarbles.

i forgot to point out earlier that this is some mighty fine philosophying…

 
 

Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™

Yes, Justices should absolutely be freed from the shackles of ruling fairly and for the people and to accept whatever bribes come their way.

 
 

If one believes all the anonymous, unsourced bullshit, one comes to the conclusion that conservatives should have made Roberts’ life hell BEFORE the decision instead of after.

If you believe the anonymous sources, they did. For instance, George Will wrote a Memorial Day column warning that Roberts had gone wobbly.

In other words, if a Breyer or Kagan had been the swing vote to nullify Obamacare, the outrage from the left would easily trump the present disappointment with Roberts on the right…

Breyer and Kagan joined five other justices in partially striking down the Medicaid expansion. Funny, I don’t recall anyone on the left musing that Roberts had threatened their children…..

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

The folks on the right aren’t all idiots. Many of them don’t have a problem with titanic government giveaways to private industry. Wall Street welfare doesn’t bother them in the least, After all, starting middle eastern wars to keep OPEC in line, boost quarterly profits at Exxon, Boeing, Halliburton and Bechtel has been one of the major wingnut get rich quick schemes of the last twenty years.

They just have a problem with government spending that A) doesn’t immediately make them rich, or B) give them war-boners.

Health care legislation hits all of the enragey-bits. It doesn’t explode foreigners. It doesn’t enrich sexy companies. It improves the lives of the hated democrats and their sinister allies. Worst of all it reduces the distance between them and rock bottom. When even perfect failures can get health insurance at arguably better rates and with arguably better coverage, well it just means that those lazy good for nothing busybodies are getting something for nothing again and who do they think they are wanting something that only a gainfully employed soldier in the conservative side of the culture deserves?

Certainly, they’ll never be unemployed, or if they are, they will never have a medical expense, and even if they do, they will pay out of pocket for care or do without. Because when their life, or the life of someone they love is on the line, they will sadly, with a tear in their eye, put grandma on the ice floe, rather than pay for that hip replacement. Because if one thing is true about conservatives, they are rock ribbed stiff upper lip stoics. No one gets a free ride not even themselves. If that means they have to suffer horribly and die, to stay true to their noble principles, well that’s just the kind of macho men they are. And knowing that, isn’t it sad that we fight them while they create the kind of world where where America’s deserving rich are the only ones who can get health care? After all they are only working to keep it from the rest of us because we don’t deserve it.

 
 

B) Turn into a swan and rape Leda?

And how is that a tragedy? Jupiter got laid and Hera never knew . . .

Now, sleeping with mom then poking out your eyes is another matter.

 
 

Dear Occupy, Er .. Zeus.

 
 

Look on the bright side, wingnuts. You may not get to keep poor people from getting medical treatment, but at least you’ll be able to stop prisoners from getting emergency contraception.

 
 

In other words, if a Breyer or Kagan had been the swing vote to nullify Obamacare, the outrage from the left would easily trump the present disappointment with Roberts on the right, which for the most part is largely one of keen disappointment, or confusion over his garbled logic, or pathetic efforts to find in his decision some ray of hope.

Wingnuts are yowling that the holocaust has started, and they’re the jews; VDH is saying, “Oh I get it, you’re dissapointed in your Hitler. His illogical rantings confuse you, but you’re slightly hopeful.”

We’ll be very lucky if some wingnut does not go on a shooting spree soon. That’ll capture the mood of the conservative base a bit better than David Brooks, or the three mildest-mannered guys at NRO, or whomever VDH is thinking of.

 
 

Argh, dissapointed = disappointed

 
 

While Justice Thomas on the other hand, who personally stood to profit enormously by his wife’s paid activism to overturn the law, was right to stay in the case because SHUT UP.

Libz. PFFT. You forgot about Jesus Clause. It’s OK to make money by being a sleazy crooked right wing, arm-twisting PAC if you’re a RIGHT WING sleazy PAC. I wonder if Mrs. Thomas ever got that apology from Anita Hill…

 
 

Argh, dissapointed = disappointed

i was going for dissipated…

 
 

holy shit…i just heard the tail end of a psa on the radio…they said to never give fireworks to infants…

 
 

Because if one thing is true about conservatives, they are rock ribbed stiff upper lip stoics

Only when they’re running their fat, greasy mouths. At least in my experience, wingnuts will take all the handouts they can get and somehow manage to convince themselves that because they were digging ditches 3 months ago, they’re more entitled to that handout than all the not-so-white lazy fucks.

 
 

…they said to never give fireworks to infants…

Undeniably good advice.

I wonder if Mrs. Thomas ever got that apology from Anita Hill…

I hear she got a pubic hair in the mail.

 
 

I hear she got a pubic hair in the mail.

Disguised as a sample pack of dental floss!

 
Surreal American
 

If you believe the anonymous sources, they did. For instance, George Will wrote a Memorial Day column warning that Roberts had gone wobbly.

Then after the decision, Swill congratulated Roberts on employing 11th dimensional methods in secretly supporting conservatism even though ACA was upheld.

For wingnuts, it’s always a glorious victory at the Malabar front.

 
 

Helmut Monotreme said,
The folks on the right aren’t all idiots. Many of them don’t have a problem with titanic government giveaways to private industry.

Sadly, you are only legible for, and able to take that money if you are 1. Convinced you receive the money as a reward for your skill at job-creating activities, instead of as a reward for failure. And 2. 100% certain to do the same mistake again.

So to use the amazingly appropriated money in the private sector, along with tax-cuts in general, as proof that not everyone on the right are complete fools — is not possible.

Some could obviously still not be idiots. And it would definitively be likely that some of them aren’t idiots.. rather than simply committed philosophically to do very idiotic things, I suppose.

But the fantastic money-appropriations is simply not proof good enough.

 
 

I’m in terminal 8 at JFK. Miraculously, I found an empty group of seats..,and then realized that the wall tv is blaring CNN. I never voluntarily watch it and had forgotten how fucking awful it is.

 
 

Completely and utterly OT, but…Anderson Cooper = Gary Ruppert?:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/anderson-cooper-gay-comes-154527163–finance.html

 
 

…realized that the wall tv is blaring CNN. I never voluntarily watch it and had forgotten how fucking awful it is.

I hate, hate, HATE airports that do that! Just let me wait for my friggin’ flight in peace, willya? If I had any balls I’d get one of those TV-B-GONE thingies and go around snuffing those goddamn screens. They’re everywhere.

 
 

TV-B-GONE thingies

A ballpeen hammer?

Also, ouch re that name.

 
 

Many of them don’t have a problem with titanic government giveaways to private industry.

So shouldn’t they LURVE the new healthcare stuff?

Wingnuts are yowling that the holocaust has started, and they’re the jews;

You know, I’d been more miffed that VDH was pretending “straw liberals TOTALLY woulda been worse!!!” but the “my side’s reaction is so awesomely restrained and principled!” is even worse now that you mention it. Christ on a cruise ship, they’ve declared June 29 was the day AMERICA DIED!!!! and debate whether or not it’s time for violent revolution but yeah, merely keen disappointment at Roberts’ poor logic.

 
 

they said to never give fireworks to infants…

Years ago I was in Colorado Springs for the Fourth. They have pretty much an anything-goes policy on fireworks out there (or used to). My friend and I loaded up at one of those roadside shacks. While the clerk was bagging all that gunpowdery goodness, I gestured toward a “No Smoking” sign and said, “You don’t really need that, do you? I mean, no one’s dumb enough to smoke in a place like this, are they?”

“You’d be surprised,” she said. Not only was a guy smoking there the previous day, but when admonished, he hid the cigarette behind his back. I guess acting like a 12-year-old beats acting like an infant.

We got drunk that night and set off everything despite having no idea what it was. I’m still amazed we didn’t burn his house down. (Or the countryside, which is not so funny considering what those poor people are going through right now. Even though there’s no indication fireworks were involved…is there?)

 
 

TV-B-GONE thingies

A ballpeen hammer?

Also, ouch re that name.

It’s a little electronic gizmo you can put on your key ring. I’m too lazy to look up a link, but you can get them on Amazon for I think like 20 bucks.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Many of them don’t have a problem with titanic government giveaways to private industry.

So shouldn’t they LURVE the new healthcare stuff?

I assume the more coherent of them had put the kid’s college fund, a 2nd mortgage and their retirement fund on shorting health insurance stocks, and therefore took a bath when it was ruled constitutional.

 
 

Going anywhere interesting, N_B?

 
 

It’s a little electronic gizmo you can put on your key ring. I’m too lazy to look up a link, but you can get them on Amazon for I think like 20 bucks.

I need to get one of those – for the 2 or 3 TVs in Flight Ops that are constantly tuned to Fox News.

 
 

I mean, no one’s dumb enough to smoke in a place like this, are they?

We took a KC-135 to an air show a while back, and people decided that under the wings of the “Strato-Pavilion” would be a great place to stand and smoke. Mind you the wings were full of very explody JP-4. And it was a hot day so fuel was venting out of the wing tanks.

I finally had to assign a couple security police just to chase the smokers away from the plane.

 
Spengler Dampniche
 

I am reminded of the parable of the Eunuch and the goat. It seems that many years ago a eunuch went to the oasis to fetch water for the caravanserai where he worked on Saturdays. I mean it wasn’t an oasis exactly because this guy lived in Japan. And it wasn’t a goat, it was a sitatunga, but then you have to explain what a sitatunga is and how it ended up in Japan. The story falls apart.

So the eunuch is at the oasis with his little pail, filling it with water, and along comes this old woman with a single eye and cloven hooves instead of feet. Naturally the eunuch is like “holy shit!” and jumps back like she was on fire.

The old woman is offended by this and says “fuck you, nutless,” and the eunuch apologizes to her for being rude. She’s mollified to such an extent that she whistles and the goat flies out of the sky and lands beside the eunuch. “You may ask this creature for anything, and as long as you care for it, it shall be yours forever.”

To make a long story short, the eunuch asks for a late-model Datsun. He’s nice to the goat, they become friends and spend a lot of holidays together, and the car never gives him any trouble. Then years later the two of them are driving to a show and the Datsun goes off a cliff. I don’t remember how it ends exactly but the moral of the story is ‘Noble is as no balls does.’

You can see how that’s relevant.

 
 

A ballpeen hammer?

Also, ouch re that name.

My ball-peen is a HAMMER!!

 
 

I am reminded of the parable of the Eunuch and the goat.

Did they walk into a bar……….with a rabbi?

 
 

I think Cato puts them in a sack with a rooster, a snake and Joan Rivers and throws them in the Tiber.

 
 

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again:
as a commentator on contemporary political issues,
VDH is a first-rate classicist.

 
 

people decided that under the wings of the “Strato-Pavilion” would be a great place to stand and smoke

Saw a uniformed squid on the flight line at NAS Moffett Field light & smoke a butt while standing w/in ten ft. of a plane w/ a spinning propeller that was about to taxi. This was a while ago (50 yrs.) & the woman who was escorting us children said she really should report the guy. Don’t think she did, but I still remember it.

 
 

The fact is, you liberal fags deserve each other.

Obamacare, like most pubic education, is designed to make everyone dependent on goverment handouts, and weak so when the goverment fails because the jopb creaters have no more use for it(soon),they will all die ov helplessness,stupid sheep that worship the Liberal Bias Media.

 
 

The fact is, those using the Large Hardon Collider to find God will suffer his rath. If any of hte scientst are gay, they will get 3x punishment in hell.

 
 

I did not know pubic education was about dependence on the government hand, but it makes sense.

 
Surreal American
 

like most pubic education

I call fake Gary. Typo too humorous to be unintentional.

 
 

WHAT? Anderson Cooper smokes pole? GET OUTTA TOWN!

 
 

under the wings of the “Strato-Pavilion” would be a great place to stand and smoke. Mind you the wings were full of very explody JP-4. And it was a hot day so fuel was venting out of the wing tanks.

Some years back Teh Ho and I were at an air show (Corning NY, Confederate AF?) having a smoke near, but not under, a Connie(?). Guy came running over and said “hey! there’s extremely high octane fuel here!”. We looked at each other, took another drag and said “well THAT’S a relief!”. Don’t think he understood.

 
 

I need to get one of those – for the 2 or 3 TVs in Flight Ops that are constantly tuned to Fox News.

How many transvestites do you have in Flight Ops? What do the others watch?

 
 

I’m pretty sure I met that eunuch in Lake Tahoe when he was working as a shill in Del Webb’s poker room.

 
 

Pupienus – master and destroyer of threads.

 
 

Large Hardon Collider

Is it just me, or has Gary been outdoing himself lately in the malapropism department?

 
 

is it just me, or had gary, just a week or so ago, insist that the supremes would throw out obammycare?

 
 

Colliding the Large Hardon

 
 

Large Hardon Collider

Some fellows can generate alot of particles this way, the scientific term for them escapes me.

 
Enraged Bull Limpet
 

Fermitozoa?

 
 

Yo EBL. Been away somewheres?

 
Lurking Canadian
 

bbkf said,
July 3, 2012 at 6:05

is it just me, or had gary, just a week or so ago, insist that the supremes would throw out obammycare?

It was a sad week indeed for wingnut trolls.

BTW, Spengler! Have you been too busy chronicling the zombie apocalypse to hang with us?

 
 

Hey, everybody check out Hanson’s new piece up on NRO today (Tuesday). I mean the one about Obama’s foreign policy.

It’s insane even by his standards. He says that the USA is now “at best neutral” towards Israel. And that’s just the beginning.

Hanson is the funniest right-wing lunatic out there: I love the Latinate bullshit, the phony-ass pretentious erudition, the blog named after a friggin’ Hesiod poem — he rules! I wish Sadly No were more interested in busting his balls, he deserves constant abuse.

 
 

they said to never give fireworks to infants…

lil g will be very disappointed (or dissipated, your pick)

 
 

Now I remember. They’re called “physicists.”

 
 

My ball-peen is a HAMMER!!

And the HAMMER is my PENIS
/Captain Hammer

 
 

They just have a problem with government spending that A) doesn’t immediately make them rich, or B) give them war-boners.

There are pills for each of those.

 
 

If any of hte scientst are gay, they will get 3x punishment in hell.

Hotter than intended?

 
 

Colliding the Large Hardon

Large Hard On Colliding!

 
 

He says that the USA is now “at best neutral” towards Israel.

In right-wing-world, anything less than a full scale nuclear strike on Iran (preferably this afternoon) counts as “at best neutral” towards Israel.

 
 

okay, last night, i said wasn’t gonna…but this morning, i just gotta…this is the ‘guest’ editorial in this weeks edition of the hooterville indigestion:

WHAT MAKES AMERICA GREAT
by Bryan Golden

In less than 200 years, America grew from a handful of colonies to become the greatest nation in history. In a few hundred years, we surpassed nations that wer many times older. What makes America great?

The two main elements that make America great are our people and our freedoms. our people have a can do, nothing is impossible, spirit. Starting with the American Revolution, we have always conquered adversity, often in the face of overwhelming odds.

We have more rights and freedoms than anywhere else in the world. Our freedoms are considered inalienable rights, not privileges granted by government. Our freedoms are the envy of the world, Every item in the bill of rights is a precious jewel, designed to ensure the immortality of our liberty.

Our founders came from societies where government controlled its citizens. They had a solid understanding of the consequences of unchecked power. Our constitution was crafted specifically to prevent its infringing on individual liberties.

Our constitution is a brilliant document, filled with foresight and understanding, that has withstood the test of time. The principles embedded in the constitution are the foundation of our greatness.

In America, each citizen can control his or her destiny without fear of interference by government or others. Our government was formed to serve the people rather vice versa. Our government was designed to play a minimal role in people’s lives.

Our doors have always been open to people from anywhere in the world who want to come here legally to work hard, contribute, and assimilate into our society. America’s reputation as a melting pot is derived from the fact that people from every walk of life can work together to create an unstoppable force for good.

In America anything is possible. America is great because it offers its people unlimited opportunity to succeed by bringing their dreams to reality. In America, success requires hard work, determination, and persistance, not permission. We are constitutionally protected to prevent government from confiscating the results of our labor.

America is an engine for unprecedented productivity. Our economic system has been responsible for civilization transforming innovations and discoveries. No other country has even come close and many other systems have failed miserably.

America has a big heart. Whether in this country or elsewhere, we help those who can not help themselves. Americans are first on the scene in the wake of natural or civic disasters. We are there with food, supplies, medical aid, and money. Our brave soldiers travel the globe defending those who can’t defend themselves.

In America there are no problems that we can’t solve. Any obstacles we may face do not taint our greatness. It is our greatness that enables us to overcome adversity and become even stronger in the process. Everyday, be thankful that you live in America and benefit from its greatness. Don’t take for granted that which people in other countries can only dream about. Be proud to be an American.

Bryan is the author of “Dare to Live Without Limits.” Visit http://www.DareToLiveWithoutLimits.com or your bookstore. Bryan is a self-development expert, syndicated columnist, and professor. E-mail Bryan at bryan@columnists.com

so many, many things to snark on…also, i imagine bryan was sporting a red, white and blue boner after cranking this one out…and he probably faps to mcnaughton’s work as well…

 
 

bbkf

That’s an example of what the people at Snopes succinctly call “glurge”.

I can’t really add anything to their description.

 
 

In America there are no problems that we can’t solve.

Well that’s because we just ignore the problems and/or blame ’em on someone below us on the socioeconomic ladder.

Does it really make people feel good to hear this trite nonsense? I mean, I am proud to be an American and all but this sounds like he’s trying to make up for something.

 
 

“glurge”

that is pretty perfect…or as bryan golden would say, ‘great!’

if this glurge is an example of how bryan has progressed as a writer, i really, really feel sorry for his junior high teachers…i bet he wrote about a lot of things that were ‘great’ and ‘neat’…

 
 

Does it really make people feel good to hear this trite nonsense?

fireworks were whizzing through my head the entire time i was reading it…along with ‘the star-spangled banner’…does that count as ‘feeling good?’

 
 

i also wonder if bryan ever pulled together a full-fledged patriotic musical with only a bunch of rag-tag kids, and old barn and plenty of moxie…

 
 

Bryan is the author of “Dare to Live Without Limits.” Visit http://www.DareToLiveWithoutLimits.com

COMIC SANS. Also: Countless others have achieved a rich and rewarding life through the application of these principles. You can to!

You “to” can dare to write without the horrible limit of correctness!

 
 

http://www.DareToLiveWithoutLimits.com

You will see illustrations of the numerous ways you can take positive control of your life.

He can draw “to”!
I enjoy negative control. I’m a photog.

 
 

Dragnet! ‘Just the facts, Ma’am.’

The ‘best’ medical care in the world is costing a fortune: In 2011, the United States spent 18% of its gross domestic product on health, much more than its allies.

Contrast those figures with Japan. The Asian country of 125 million spent just 8.5% of its GDP on healthcare in 2009, among the best figures in the developed world. Yet, despite lower costs, it’s No. 3 on the list of life expectancies and 220th (out of 221) in infant mortality, according to the CIA Factbook. The United States ranks 50th in life expectancy and 173rd in infant mortality. The U.S. individualist tradition in health care generally runs counter to the rest of the industrialized world. Free-marketers like to point to the Swiss system, in which individuals buy their own insurance. But it, too, has a mandate.

The United States does not lead the world in several indices of commerce. The International Finance Corporation and the World Bank ranked 183 countries in 11 areas; the United States didn’t finish first in any of them.

Germany has it been the world’s leading exporter for several years in the past decade, it does so with a heavily unionized, relatively expensive labor force that gets six weeks of vacation a year and works a slightly shorter week than U.S. workers.

The Germans succeed by investing in their people from an early age. A student from a German business school will likely speak three languages and have spent two semesters at two different partner schools outside of Germany.

“When they graduate, they’ll be your competitor. In terms of doing business globally, who do you think will have the advantage?” [G Kiem, U of Arizona]

His students, many of whom have never traveled outside the United States, are shocked, he says.

Germany can compete, despite its more generous benefits, because it has leaders who are knowledgeable about global markets. “They go to these other places and they’re sponges,” he says.

No CNN on my Chinese T.V., but there is the BBC; Russian, Korean and Japanese (soaps and news). Here is the original article which I read on-line: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/02/us/american-exceptionalism-other-countries-lessons/index.html

 
 

“No CNN on my Chinese T.V.”

Oddly, I have a Japanese T.V., but I get CNN.

 
 

Tainting the greatness.

Also: what a relief to learn that America CAN figure out how to safely dispose of deadly radiological waste after all! Must be one heck of a partay going on at the Hanford Site right now. Talk about the cavalry arriving in the nick of time … shit was getting seriously scary there for a minute!

Whew.

GO FOR IT, AMERICA!

 
 

What I love about the wingnut outrage, besides the delicious sweet tears, is the fact that Roberts’ findings are pretty unremarkable. Yes, Congress has broad powers of taxation. And a tax is a tax no matter what it’s called, and something that’s going to be collected by the IRS , which already collects taxes to fund other healthcare programs, is yes – a tax, regardless of the political expediency found to be desirable in calling it something else at the time it was passed. Roberts stayed true to his corporatist ideology by failing to uphold under the interstate commerce clause. If our media wasn’t chock-a-block with dumbasses, it would come as no surprise to anyone that in any question before the court, the standard is supposed to be “unconstitutional or not?” rather than a process in which the court searches for a particular constitutional provision that the law appears to contravene, were it not for another provision that makes clear the power falls within the scope allowed by the constitution, and then pretending that the provision that makes the law allowable doesn’t exist. It would be like saying that it’s unconstitional to arrest and jail someone because right there in the preamble it says we’re guaranteed the right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.

So while Roberts bends over backwards to avoid stepping on anything that might limit corporate power, his reasoning is otherwise pretty damn unremarkable. Yes, of course Congress has a right to levy taxes on any number of activities in which the federal government has an interest or a stake, and given that it was established almost 50 years ago that the government had an interest/stake in insuring medical care for the elderly and the poorest and has ever since been levying taxes to cover the costs, the radical decision would be to rule that in this case, which differs from Medicare/Medicaid only in the group of citizens it addresses, that suddenly Congress lacks the power to levy another tax to cover healthcare costs.

The real cause for shame and outrage here is the fact that there are 4 justices on the court so partisan in their ideology that they could rule otherwise. You certainly can’t blame Roberts for not wanting to be a blatantly radical hack and going along with the notion that somehow Congress loses its powers of taxation whenever a Democratic congress passes a bill and/or a black president signs it.

 
 

according to bryan’s principles, this is number one:
•You are what you think about

uh-oh…

 
 

in an ongoing *discussion* on facebook about how obama sux and aca sux even more, this is what one young man had to say:

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states. Everything else they do is in conflict with the constitution.

 
 

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states.

I thought it was supposed to regulate everybody’s sex life and promote evangelical Christianity? What did I miss?

 
 

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states. Everything else they do is in conflict with the constitution.

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be

 
 

Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
i see your onion and rais you a gaffigan…

 
 

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states. Everything else they do is in conflict with the constitution.

Post Office? Roads? Weights and measures? Coin money? Issue patents and copyright?

 
 

Post Office? Roads? Weights and measures? Coin money? Issue patents and copyright?

Overreaching government at its finest. Job creators could have done all of that better, faster, stronger, more profitably.

 
 

i see your onion and rais you a gaffigan…

Stolen!

 
 

Obamacare, like most pubic education, is designed to make everyone dependent on goverment handouts

By buying private insurance?

Interesting concept there, Rupps!

 
 

You are what you think about

I’m not either a pussy!

 
 

most pubic education

Is that like a barber college?

 
 

You are what you think about

I’m not either a pussy!

I will freely admit that I’m an unapologetic boob.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states.

Is it possible he’s posting from a timeline in which the other side won the Slaver’s Rebellion?

 
 

Wouldn’t it be the confederal government, then?

 
 

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states.

What ever happened to the idea of a strong central government to protect the people (which I was under the impression were said government) from corporate power, greed and maleficence? How come as the people get weaker, they just want to give more of their power away?

 
Caliph Garrett
 

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states.

Sounds like somebody’s US History course began with the Articles of Confederation and ended somewhere before Shay’s Rebellion.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

That glurge made me grumpy. In response, here is some counter glurge:

How did America become the wealthiest most powerful nation in the world in a mere 200 years? By stealing anything that wasn’t nailed down and killing the people who objected! North America was not an empty unspoiled wilderness when Columbus stopped to ask for directions in 1492. In addition to finding new ways to not get to India, Columbus discovered a thriving civilisation in the new world, which on subsequent journeys, he got right down to the serious business of looting the hell out of. But it was a two way street, Christendom got gold and silver, potatos and tobacco, and the native Americans got the Spanish inquistion, peonage and smallpox. Thus it went for the next 500 some years. European pioneers saw something they liked and they took it, paying sometimes with glass beads, sometimes with smallpox infested blankets and sometimes with lead.

In time, and using the sweat of the brows of servants, whether indentured or imprisoned or enslaved, the new Americans built a prosperous community based on the fundamental principal that money talks. Some high minded enlightenment scholars even postulated that all men were created equal, unless you were a woman or an Indian or had a drop of African blood in your veins, in which case you could hardly even call yourself human, much less entitled to the privelidge and wealth, education and opportunities of the landed elite.

Those same high minded scholars even managed to declare their independance from the old order, when the corrupt old King George III’s minions decided those freeloaders in the colonies should help to pay for the French and Indian war (the North American theater of the Seven Years war) which had cost so much to win. Granted the Crown’s ‘tax anything that moves’ and ‘you only get to sell your raw materials to us for a pittance’ coupled with their ‘you can only buy finished goods at highly inflated prices from us’, was a drag on the economy. So with money borrowed from the Netherlands and muskets and soldiers and ships provided by France and Spain, they fought and won a war to keep from having to repay previous loans.

In time a new thriving nation was built from the can-do spirit of the pioneers. Immigrants moved ever westward to settle land and shove the previous inhabitants into ever more inhospitable countryside. And when gold was discovered in that inhosptitable countryside, well then it was time to start shoving again. A continent full of vibrant and vital farmers and hunters was eventually reduced to little more than a dempgraphic rounding error by the proud young nation, their heritage reduced to caricatures and hard to pronounce and easily discarded place names.

It is that can-do spirit of our forefathers that we bring to the world, that says ‘never pay for what you can steal’, ‘steal everything you not nailed down’ and ‘anything you can pry up isn’t nailed down’, that has led to our boundless wealth. Yes these simple maxims applied real estate, resources, finance and even, have fueled the prosperity of modern America. We bring the gift of rapacious greed with us wherever we go, whether it’s propping up corrupt dictators in the Middle east, outsourcing our jobs and pollution, offshoring our income, and selling off national assets to those who will sell them back at a premium. We are going to bring the shock doctrine and runaway capitalism wrapped in a red white and blue bow to the wh

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Yes these simple maxims applied toreal estate, resources, finance and evenhuman life, have fueled the prosperity of modern America

 
 

Also, too, we get to be Gort!

 
Pupienus Maximus
 

You are what you think about

I’m not either a pussy!

I’ve been called a dick more than once.

 
 

That glurge made me grumpy. In response, here is some counter glurge:

i gotta believe that bryan golden would LURVE to ready your counter glurge…after all, he provides a handy email link to his site…

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

I should edit up my counter glurge, then. That was OK for a first draft. I am open to any and all editorial suggestions, I think it sprawls a little and maybe isn’t as tightly focused as I prefer.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

the last sentence of my jeremiad was clipped. It should read
“We are going to bring the shock doctrine and runaway capitalism wrapped in a red white and blue bow to the whole goddamn world. Oh say can you see the invisible hand of capitalism giving you the finger?”

 
 

ole goddamn world. Oh say can you see the invisible hand of capitalism giving you the finger?”

this does wrap it up nicely…and don’t worry about not being as tightly focused…i don’t think many could live up to bryan golden’s ‘america is great!’ central plane of thought…

 
 

You might add massive public subsidies of private enterprise, from the inland canal system, to railroads, to autombiles (including the interstate highway system), to agriculture, etc., etc., etc.

 
 

Oh, and major government subsidies of professional sports.

 
 

And airports – don’t forget airports. And sports arenas and stadiums – they NEVER pan out as promised economically.

 
 

Sheesh, Rob, gimme a chance wouldja?

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

I feel I should add more Freedom! I covered slavery a bit, but I should add more about how the Alien and sedition acts, the Chinese exclusion acts, Internment of Japanese Americans in WWII, McCarthyism, the red scare, the Patriot act, and torture prove how far our freedom to do and say exactly what our leaders want has never been so zealously protected.

 
Marion in Savannah
 

Zealously protected is one thing, but our leaders aren’t afraid to zealously PROMOTE those freedumbs that you mentioned. Which makes them more betterer, right?

 
 

So Andy Griffith died, an event which received a mention over at NRO. Commenters can’t decide whether Matlock was a good show or whether Griffith’s making an ad in support of Medicare makes him the moral equivalent of the Khmer Rouge.

 
 

mark f is not kidding…yow, those people are just plain out and out mean! anyhoo…i clicked the nro linky and read the article about andy’s passing…then i read this:

President Barack Obama says Griffith was a performer of extraordinary talent. “Andy was beloved by generations of fans and revered by entertainers who followed in his footsteps,” Obama said in a statement. “He brought us characters from Sheriff Andy Taylor to Ben Matlock, and in the process, warmed the hearts of Americans everywhere. Our thoughts and prayers are with Andy’s family.”

what kind of shitstorm will this cause?

 
 

virgin ben had to get in on it too…they keep mentioning a commercial griffith did for obama…i do not recall that one…the only commercial i remember is ‘goooooooood cracker!’

 
 

That was great. I will light some sparklers in your honor, HM.

 
 

bbkf,

The add that Griffith did with Ron Howard and Henry Winkler for Obammy 2008 was great.

http://www.myspace.com/video/president-barack-obama/sheriff-taylor-and-the-fonz-can-39-t-be-wrong/45179577

 
 

I don’t remember the commercial either. It was probably Ben Matlock passionlessly telling people watching the 4:30 a.m. news that they weren’t, in fact, required to appear before a Death Panel. Which is exactly the same as using garden tools to carry out the mass extermination of the literate.

 
 

The add that Griffith did with Ron Howard and Henry Winkler for Obammy 2008 was great.

o.m.g…that is classic! ‘i thought she said she was loose!’

oh…i shouldn’t laff at that…that’s hate speech…

 
 

Shorter Jonah Goldberg:

Richard Trumka is a hack when he says Republican plans to eliminate Social Security are bad, because he doesn’t even mention that FDR is a disgusting liberal fascist or that Sandra Fluke is a slut.

 
 

FDR ended that speech with one of the most disgusting exhortations against his political foes — and liberty itself — ever offered by an American president in a major address. He said, in part:

One of the great American industrialists of our day—a man who has rendered yeoman service to his country in this crisis-recently emphasized the grave dangers of “rightist reaction” in this Nation. All clear-thinking businessmen share his concern. Indeed, if such reaction should develop—if history were to repeat itself and we were to return to the so-called “normalcy” of the 1920?s—then it is certain that even though we shall have conquered our enemies on the battlefields abroad, we shall have yielded to the spirit of Fascism here at home.

Ah yes, if we go back to the 1920s, an era of rampant prosperity and expanding liberty we will have surrendered to Fascism. That is grotesque.

does jonah have to even try to be so deliberately obtuse?

 
 

“Deliberately”?

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

The federal government only exists to provide national protection from foreign enemies; and to settle disputes between states.

You fucking hack. And who gave state government the right to dictate my life? They should only exist to settle disputes between counties. And for that matter, county government should only exist to settle disputes between local townships. And for that matter local township government should only exist to settle disputes between neighborhoods. And for that matter, neighborhood watches should only exist to settle dispute between houses. And for that matter, houses should only exist to settle disputes between families. And families should only exist to settle dispute between siblings.

If you’re going to advocate for no gods, no masters, at least do it fucking right instead of putting all the power in the hands of a fucking governor.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

If you’re going to advocate for no gods, no masters, at least do it fucking right instead of putting all the power in the hands of a fucking governor.

Oh, come on there is some serious comedy potential in wildly empowering governors. Imagine what a paradise on earth Sarah Palin could have made out of Alaska if her hands were freed of the shackles of federal oversight. Imagine what Jan Brewer could do in Arizona, or Scott Walker in Wisconsin. It might a little difficult for the residents of those states to see the humor, but to a disinterested observer, I’m sure it would be hilarious.

 
Just Alison freezing her tits off
 

bbkf said,
July 3, 2012 at 15:34

Wow, that is one seriously deranged person. I get the icky feeling he was writing that with one hand on his todger while looking at a huge framed pic by that nutjob who does creepy rightwing paintings. “Ooooh, Constitution, yeah baby, do it for me, flag, oh yeah,…” and so on and so forth.

Now I’s a gonna scrub my brain down.

 
 

Now I’s a gonna scrub my brain down.

Don’t Bogart that bleach, my friend.

 
 

Reading the Constitution.

 
 

Hey, I’m on Sadly time!

 
 

. I get the icky feeling he was writing that with one hand on his todger while looking at a huge framed pic by that nutjob who does creepy rightwing paintings. “Ooooh, Constitution, yeah baby, do it for me, flag, oh yeah,…” and so on and so forth.

i had the EXACT same thoughts…hand over that bleach, plz…

 
 

You fucking hack. And who gave state government the right to dictate my life? They should only exist to settle disputes between counties. And for that matter, county government should only exist to settle disputes between local townships. And for that matter local township government should only exist to settle disputes between neighborhoods. And for that matter, neighborhood watches should only exist to settle dispute between houses. And for that matter, houses should only exist to settle disputes between families. And families should only exist to settle dispute between siblings.

Atoms should only exist to settle disputes between subatomic particles. And that’s why I’m calling on all right-thinking freedom-loving Americans to have themselves vaporized.

 
 

You know, I honestly can’t get too disgusted with glurge guy. It’s beyond cloying, but he doesn’t use his patriotic sentiment as a preamble to “and that’s why we need to burn immigrants for fuel.” Soft bigotry of low expectations, I guess.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

I hate you fucking atomists so goddamned much! Power to the quarks!

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

Ah, youse guys are reminding me why I moved to the US – snarky people, humourous rants, and the fucking awesome comeback to patriotist bullshit.

Happy 4th to me. 🙂

HM and St. Trotsky, seriously. I laffed.

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

Speaking of patriotist bullshit, I was very, very happy I was in England before the Jubilee nonsense. I lived through the one in 1977 (dating myself, there), where us schoolchildren were given many worthless trinkets, including leather bookmarks stamped with fake silver (almost as puke-worthy as the “coins” they gave out to commemorate Chuck and Diane’s wedding), and rulers. At least this time some of the Jack stuff was cute (but I’ll make my own Union Jack pillows, thanks), but village after village festooned with bunting was getting to me after a while (that, and the snotty little “antique” shops selling 1977 jubilee tat at highly inflated prices).

I was filled with glee when it rained cats and dogs for the big river parade. All British events are more fun in the sodding rain.

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

Yay! My turn to run naked through the thread!

I was sitting outside this evening, watching the rabbits feeding and playing all around me, and I hear a noise, look up, and it seems this year’s black vulture juveniles (they’re the equivalent of teenagers now) have decided to spend their first night out of the coop, roosting in one of our black walnuts.

I love it here (Virginia). I also get hummingbirds.

 
Just Alison freezing her tits off
 

Hey, I can run naked through the thread too, matey! Although it’s so ferkin’ cold here that I may be missing several important parts.

Just proves that that global warming stuff is a crock, eh? Pretty soon we’ll have to change our name from “the driest state in the driest continent” to “the squelchiest state in the shitstorm continent” – one of the guys here had his caravan squashed by a freak mini-tornado (see first two pics here) that just ran down one street.

 
gocart vladimir ilyich mozart
 

All power to the Higgs Boson!

 
 

I was sitting outside this evening, watching the rabbits feeding and playing all around me, and I hear a noise, look up, and it seems this year’s black vulture juveniles (they’re the equivalent of teenagers now) have decided to spend their first night out of the coop, roosting in one of our black walnuts.

Do you live in a Warner Brothers cartoon?

 
Benito Mussellini
 

“Ah yes, if we go back to the 1920s, an era of rampant prosperity and expanding liberty we will have surrendered to Fascism.”

Jonah makes a good point

 
 

Do you live in a Warner Brothers cartoon?

when i first started my radio career, i worked the graveyard shift…home was 19 miles away with about a third of it through a national wildlife refuge…with the sun just coming up and critters all over, i always felt i was driving through a disney cartoon…

 
 

From the Corner

Ed in Cary 07/03/12 11:08

Sure, I loved Andy and Barney and even have a few episodes on my hard drive.

But those guys were fictional characters. I do not weep for the real Andy Griffith who worked for the evil empire. Not one bit.

 
 

gocart, i read that comment earlier today and was totally creeped out…ed in cary is a major douchebag/tool/prick/asswipe/whatever…

 
 

Hey, I’m on Sadly time!

oh, that’s right…you’re in paris you lucky sod! well enjoy your fourth of july with rude frogeating surrender monkeys!

 
 

I do not weep for the real Andy Griffith who worked for the evil empire.

Andy Griffith was a Soviet agent?

Early in his career, Griffith did a fine performance as a down-home proto-Glenn Beck in A Face in the Crowd. He could play an excellent villain.

 
Spengler Dampniche
 

I’m sick of writing books. I just want to hang around here making retard jokes.

 
Spengler Dampniche
 

Also, sick and tired of the boson already. It’s like ‘okay, it’s so rare, awesome’ but so what? Nobody uses it for anything. It has almost no flavor and it doesn’t store well.

You can use almond flour and you get almost exactly the same effect.

 
Spengler Dampniche
 

Look, I’m naked and nobody can see me on this thread.

 
 

Re: Andy Griffith,

I had reason to check my throwaway email acct today. The one that gets the Breitbart subscription, among other things.

Hoo-wee. Them mangoes are pretty amazing.

And should someone even so much as hint that the hate is unbecoming?

Redtex

Congratulations. You’ve just sunk to the same level as those who celebrated Andrew Breitbart’s passing because they hate conservatives.

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hjole

not even close, was Griffith a searcher for the truth like Breitbart, no…he was an actor, a left wing, socialist, actor.

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I don’t even know where to begin.

 
 

This bit railing on Obama for being on vacation during a natural disaster is simply astonishing.

I mean, wow. Someone in the comments even said “Heckuva job, Brownie” and almost nobody got it.

Just wow.

 
 

Oh, and happy Surrender at Vicksburg Day, everybody.

 
 

Favorite mango from the Obama piece,

I remember when his wife said something about ‘whitey’ on video.

uhhhh

 
 

A golden opportunity for false-memory research!

 
 

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY, YANKS !

Are you yearning for those happy times under the monarchy? Then you could celebrate the Queen’s Jubilee as well ! Yeah !

How long has it been now? Hmmm – over 240 years. And people criticise us for not getting it right in 18 years ! You guys are STILL struggling with the democracy/plutocracy thing. Oy.
But I’m haranguing you out of love – really. You Internet Americans are among the people I care about.

 
 

Ah yes, if we go back to the 1920s, an era of rampant prosperity and expanding liberty we will have surrendered to Fascism.

I didn’t realize the Volstead Act counted as “expanding liberty”.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

Happy Treason Prospered Day to all you Mercan types!

 
Lurking Canadian
 

Major Kong said,
July 4, 2012 at 13:05

Ah yes, if we go back to the 1920s, an era of rampant prosperity and expanding liberty we will have surrendered to Fascism.

I didn’t realize the Volstead Act counted as “expanding liberty”.

A chicken in every pot; a Klan robe in every closet!

 
 

A chicken in every pot; a Klan robe in every closet!

Oh, so you have been to Mississippi.

 
 

You guys are STILL struggling with the democracy/plutocracy thing. Oy.
But I’m haranguing you out of love – really.

you tease because you know that AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!*

*see above for flag fapping by mr. bryan golden

I didn’t realize the Volstead Act counted as “expanding liberty”.

I mean, wow. Someone in the comments even said “Heckuva job, Brownie” and almost nobody got it.

did you catch where one of the wingnutteers was pissy because ‘the slime’ didn’t even visit duluth to see the flooding and DID NOT declare a state of emergency and dish out some fema funds? yeah, that’s bootstrappery at it’s finest…

good one, major…yes, it’s true that are freedoms and liberties are inalienable…unless the wingnuts or jeebus think it is bad…

 
 

okay, i have NO IDEA what just happened with that comment up there…i trust you can connect the dots…

 
 

Re: Andy Griffith,

That’s pretty hilariously clueless.

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

Do you live in a Warner Brothers cartoon?

It’s central Virginia. I live among people who still refer to African Americans as “coloreds”. Obviously, it’s a Disney cartoon.

 
 

From now on, if someone asks me for the definition of cretinism, I can just point them to the comments from the Breitbarties on that thread.

 
 

It wasn’t socialism. What it was,was football.

 
 

Do you live in a Warner Brothers cartoon?

I have yet to drop an anvil on anybody. Not that I haven’t been tempted.

 
 

HAPPY INDEPENDANCE DAY, YANKS!

Also: Happy Birthday to Malia Obama!

That rampant prosperity of the 1920s … I seem to recall it did not end well.

Gratuitous NRO spoor goes here:

jim2011
07/04/12 11:56

If one pays more attention to Trumka’s actions, & less to the populist rhetoric that flows from his piehole, one soon finds out just how much of a “radical” he really is. One will wait in vain to hear any twinge of Trumkaphobia from corporate elite circles, though their mouthpieces in the media may well be fools enough to dread him quite sincerely indeed.

The reader will kindly indulge Goldberg by forgetting that during his time in the White House, Roosevelt was actually in real danger of being overthrown by a Fascist coup d’etat, backed by exactly the same corporatist “rightists” that he railed against.

Sadly, since it’s yet another case where the real history of the movement catastrophically fails to confirm his bizarre “Fascism = Left Wing” thesis, it must take a little trip down the Memory Hole.

Of the numerous contemporary conservatives who considered FDR to be deranged for excoriating that nice Mr. Hitler & who later passionately despised him for being “on the wrong side of the Anti-Bolshevik struggle” by declaring war on the Nazis, it is perhaps best not to think at all, especially on the Fourth of July.

The reader is also asked to ignore that the Founders knew full well that their founding documents were imperfect, in some instances grievously so, & that in their eyes amending or even replacing them outright with something better was in fact the height of patriotism – which is why provisions exist that allow for just such actions.

Of course, the Founders’ well-founded fear & loathing of corporate “Combines” as foes of liberty, or their view of standing armies as parasitic structural incitements to pointless adventurism & slaughter, are by definition doubleplusungoodthink & as such can not possibly have happened, no matter what the Founders themselves may have said.

Wishing someone would teach them thar fish to jump OUT of teh barrel once in a while, just to make it a bit more interesting.

 
 

$$$$$$$$$!

Watch out, Willard … taxes are how they finally nailed Al Capone.

 
 

Someone in the comments even said “Heckuva job, Brownie” and almost nobody got it.

At least some of the residents of Wingnutistan seem to have rebranded George W. Bush as a leftist.

In this recent masterpiece from Jon McNaughton, Bush can be seen just to the left of Obama, hanging out with the despondent liberal fascists.

 
 

$$$$$$$$$!

Watch out, Willard … taxes are how they finally nailed Al Capone.

Wow. I knew the guy was a weasel but I had no idea he was a crook, too.

 
 

It wasn’t socialism. What it was,was football.

Hold up a minute. Let’s get into character.
.

 
 

As usual, I yield my intertrons trolling proxies to jim. Go on, buddy, you tell ’em.

 
 

Do you live in a Warner Brothers cartoon?

Yes, and I have “ooooh tree or four” lumps on my head to prove it!

 
 

HAPPY INDEPENDANCE DAY, YANKS!

Thanks, Northern neighbor! Say, those are some ehhh nice resources ya got there…

 
 

Well, it’s happened again. Teh Ho put the 1776 DVD in and is singing along. Once again what would otherwise be a fine holiday is RUINED by Howard Da Silva.

 
 

I think you should counter with Cannibal, the Musical.

Jeez, after 25 years or so you’d think you’d have come up with some strategeries by now.

 
 

Oh, so you have been to Mississippi.

That was the week that was. (Warning: N-word abuse and blackface, in case you think you want to watch this at work.)

 
 

Listening to Neil Young’s Americana

Never thought I’d be rocking out to “Darling Clementine” but in some strange way it works.

Neil’s about the only artist from the classic-rock era that I still care to listen to.

 
 

That was the week that was

Holy fuck.

Can you imagine the whingeing blowback from the teaturds if anything remotely like that were to be aired today?

 
 

Neil’s about the only artist from the classic-rock era that I still care to listen to.

There is a lot of stuff from that era that I still enjoy hearing, but very little that I will actually put on.

 
 

Ot, but I kind of really want one of these.

 
 

Can you imagine the whingeing blowback from the teaturds if anything remotely like that were to be aired today?

Heck, can you imagine if that had been an American TV studio staging that? (That Was the Week That Was was British.) I think the audience would’ve rioted.

 
 

I’m at a construction history conference and just got back from the “‘merkin night out” at which I led a toast to Ezra and Levi Weeks, who between them encapsulate construction and merkin history. Google them, as I’m drunk off my ass on vodka and triple sec and shan’t be linking.

 
 

If you can stand another OT, what Katie Holmes is saving her daughter from.

Ho. Lee. Shit.

I knew those Scientologists were batshit but I didn’t think they routinely tormented children.

I would have tucked that kid under my arm and run years ago.

 
 

Well, compared to what my dad went through in Catholic school in the 1950s it sounds pretty mild. Still pretty disturbing mind you.

 
 

Ot, but I kind of really want one of these.

Who wouldn’t?
.

 
 

Ot, but I kind of really want one of these.

Needs more power. I go faster than 12.5 mph on my bicycle.

 
 

Who wouldn’t?

Yeah, I figured that’d get your shorts het up, scooter boy.

Needs more power. I go faster than 12.5 mph on my bicycle.

Everything needs more power. </TimAllenGrunt>

I’d have to trust the damned thing an awful lot to assume it could stop quick enough from speed without faceplanting me. I still have greater fear and respect for physics than technology. To stop at 1G, you’d need to rotate the center of mass (mostly you) to 45 degrees behind the contact patch, a somewhat awkward driving position.

It still beats hell out of a Segway on cool factor and sitting down though.

 
 

It still beats hell out of a Segway on cool factor and sitting down though.

In cool-factor, it rates very high, but the dorky-looking Honda with the butt cups seems infinitely more practical.
.

 
 

It would be a bargain decent deal at half the price. Still, needs more power and 10 miles greater range.

 
 

Also, Al Gore is really fat,

 
 

I’m not naked. Not quite.

 
 

Heck, can you imagine if that had been an American TV studio staging that? (That Was the Week That Was was British.) I think the audience would’ve rioted.

NBC(?) aired an American TW3 for a couple years.

 
 

NOW I am naked. yippee!

 
 

Prancing naked through the thread takes me back to my yoot. Nice it is, yess.

 
 

I’m not naked. Not quite.

Let me guess: “banana hammock”

 
Enraged Bull Limpet
 

Explosions finally tapering off here… circa 10:30 PM local

 
 

Just heard another burst here on the Coast.

 
 

Oh, Michelle Malkin apparently pitched a fit over the July 4th Google Doodle.

Wingnuts. Can’t live with ’em, can’t stick an icepick into their brain stem.

 
 

In cool-factor, it rates very high, but the dorky-looking Honda with the butt cups seems infinitely more practical.

The Honda also goes sideways, which is pretty fucking cool. I doubt the Honda has fuck all for range, though.

 
 

I doubt the Honda has fuck all for range, though.

Yeah. It’s too small, but appears to be made for large office buildings and warehouse environments, and not really for moving around streets, etc.
.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

I would totally ride a Ryno, if someone were to buy one for me. (I have a hard time budgeting for non-free things at the moment) Compared to the cost of a high end scooter, the $4500 price tag is not outrageous.

I think Ryno should increase their visibility by sponsoring (perhaps in cooperation with big company that sponsors that sort of thing like Red Bull) a racing series with juiced up models on courses that would showcase the go-most-anywhere nature of their motorized unicycles.

 
 

It doesn’t have the same cool-factor, but there are electric bikes in the $500 – $1500 range that can go 25-30 miles on a charge. And if the battery runs out, hey you can still pedal the thing.

 
 

Oh, Michelle Malkin apparently pitched a fit over the July 4th Google Doodle.

I remember seeing a documentary on Woodie Guthrie years ago, there was segment in there where Arlo talked about the family moving to California when he was just a grade school lad. At that time Arlo was not aware that his father was a famous folk singer. At school one day they taught the class the first verse of This Land is My Land. He then went home all excited to sing to his dad the new song he’d learned. Woodie said “that’s great son, let me teach you the rest of it”. The next day when Arlo went back to school singing the rest of the song he was suspended and sent home for being a communist. So the moral is, as long as Google didn’t use anything that comes after the first verse, it’s not a commie thing.

 
 

Anybody that thinks his battered six string killed any fascists was clearly dreaming. While performing he often referred to his guitar as the “starvation box” which is a lot more realistic.

 
 

Maybe there should be a rewrite for wingnut sensibilities: “This Land is My Land and Fuck You.”

 
 

Anybody that thinks his battered six string killed any fascists was clearly dreaming.

That’s not exactly the point. The point is that he was a “premature anti-fascist.” And yes, that really was a thing at one time.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Anybody that thinks his battered six string killed any fascists was clearly dreaming.

Are you suggesting that Woody didn’t have a secret life as a depression era Quick Draw McGraw, smashing evildoers over the head with a weaponized acoustic guitar named ‘El Kabong’?

 
 

I was thinking he worked more like this guy…

 
 

acoustic guitar named ‘El Kabong’?

ah, good old el kabong…

i am in a stupor right now…having finished a brunch of blueberry buttermilk pancakes with homemade syrup, scrambled eggs and bacon…hubbkf and i both took today off and the daughter is home as well…glad to see the sadlies have all survived the fourth…it was sweltering, so instead of watching town ball (the rivalry game went 10 innings with our boys losing) we three went over to the neighbors who have a pool…much water cavorting, drinking and eating were had before the big fireworks show down at the ball diamond…today is a much needed rest…

 
 

Anybody that thinks his battered six string killed any fascists was clearly dreaming.

It wasn’t actually the guitar itself – it was the strings, which he used to garrote Reinhard Heydrich, Francisco Franco, and Ante Pavelic. He also infiltrated several Nuremberg rallies, hid behind the giant Nazi banners, and picked off unwary SA stormtroopers. He preferred using a D’Addario 14 gauge bronze round-wound with a hexcore to avoid unwanted slippage.

 
 

If you use Elixers the blood just beads up and runs right off, or so I’m told.

 
 

Anybody that thinks his battered six string killed any fascists was clearly dreaming.

Oh yeah? Ever seen El Mariachi?

 
 

Anybody that thinks his battered six string killed any fascists was clearly dreaming.

Roberta Flack begs to differ

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Anybody that thinks his battered six string killed any fascists was clearly dreaming.

Meatloaf was barely seventeen when he killed a boy with a fender guitar.

 
 

At a mere 11 months old Barrack Husein Obama killed a boy with a rebab as required under Sharia Law.

 
 

I always assumed that Guthrie’s “This Machine Kills Fascists” sticker was about his propagandizing through music, but now I see there’s more to it.

He preferred using a D’Addario 14 gauge bronze round-wound with a hexcore to avoid unwanted slippage.

On the other hand, nazis really hate being garroted with Savarez brand “Argentine New Concept” strings of any gauge — the favorites of gypsy guitarists and their imitators.

These are silver-plated, relatively lightweight sets for a family of acoustic guitars that I’m wild about …
http://www.gypsyguitars.com/inventory.php

 
 

Oh, I’ve seen El Mariachi. I was on a bus in Chiapas during the Zapatista uprising and the bus was stopped by an army checkpoint. After harassing some of the Mayan passengers they got into the luggage. Their Capt. came on the bus.

“Quien trae la guitarra?”

I got off the bus and they had my guitar case in the middle of the road with a circle of soldiers pointing their guns at it v

“Abre le!”

The bus driver thought this was hilarious and cranked the stereo on the bus. I looked around savoring the moment, the Beatles sang “nothings gonna change my world” as I opened the case and slowly took out my road beater and showed it to all. A truly Mexican feel of danger and comedy.

 
 

Why didn’t Google just use this song as the basis for their doodle?

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Since I can’t get away with watching youtube at work, did you just link to “America, Fuck Yeah!”?

 
 

Since I can’t get away with watching youtube at work, did you just link to “America, Fuck Yeah!”?

It was “Tear the Fascist Down”.

 
 

Spengler Dampniche said, July 4, 2012 at 7:48, Look, I’m naked and nobody can see me on this thread.

Ooooh, now my spengler is tingling and I feel an urge to put it in your dampniche.

 
 

Ooooh, now my spengler is tingling and I feel an urge to put it in your dampniche.

Woof, did it just get HOT in here?

 
 

Woof, did it just get HOT in here?

But Algore is still fat.

 
 

These are silver-plated, relatively lightweight sets for a family of acoustic guitars that I’m wild about …

Silver strings can often come in handy.

 
 

Hogeye Grex on July 4, 2012 at 9:04, I concur with your

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA

and add

 
 

Silver strings can often come in handy.

one must possess a certain amount of machismo to carry a moniker such as that…

 
 

Silver strings can often come in handy.

Great book. Read it years ago. Based on Appalachian folklore.

 
 

Silver strings can often come in handy.

Those are quite entertaining stories. Apparently there was a movie adaptation of some of them, but if this review’s any indication it’s what you might call well-intentioned at best.

 
 

Here is a similar book, written a few years ago and inspired by the Silver John stories:

http://www.baen.com/library/0671720848/0671720848.htm

 
 

Re: BBBB–

Manly Wade Wellman: what a name. Archaic. I have reverted to reading a bit of fantasy now and then. There’s so much serious nonfiction on my shelves with bookmarks before the halfway point. I dunno how I used to devour such fare — maybe I wasn’t reading carefully? — but all I can manage lately is stories.

 
 

This machine kills demons.

 
 

Maybe there should be a rewrite for wingnut sensibilities: “This Land is My Land and Fuck You.”

Beaten to the punch, Bitts.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Those are quite entertaining stories. Apparently there was a movie adaptation of some of them, but if this review’s any indication it’s what you might call well-intentioned at best.

Ya know, Andy Griffith would have been great as John the Balladeer.

Here is a similar book, written a few years ago and inspired by the Silver John stories:

I’ll have to check that out… thanks!

Manly Wade Wellman: what a name. Archaic. I have reverted to reading a bit of fantasy now and then. There’s so much serious nonfiction on my shelves with bookmarks before the halfway point. I dunno how I used to devour such fare — maybe I wasn’t reading carefully? — but all I can manage lately is stories.

Have you ever read anything by Jack Vance? The Dying Earth is a collection of weird fantasy short stories which have an evocative beauty to them.

This machine kills demons.

You working for “The Laundry”, old chum?

 
 

New long post.

Sorry for the lack thereof, had Pride stuff and a looming deadline for a writing contest I’m applying for.

 
 

Did anyone here celebrate the 4th of July with “freedom fries”? Hamburgers and hot dog with Freedom’s mustard— you know freedom onion soup sounds pretty good, right now. Or freedom toast. A freedom dip on freedom bread. I’m feeling pretty fucking free right now, not like those socialists over there in those countries that shan’t be named.

Lafayette, fuck you!

It’s a ridiculously pleasant afternoon here. The sun is shining gently, the sky is a soft and reassuring blue, and the temperature is around 70 degrees.

 
 

Did anyone here celebrate the 4th of July with “freedom fries”?

(last gasp before the new column) No, just these. (They are, BTW, quite good though rather pricy.)

 
 

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