We’ll Need Mining Equipment if We’re Going to Make This Hole Any Deeper
I don’t see anything racist going on here.
It’s been a good break. I killed an interview and I got to spend Christmas with family perpetuate the War on Christmas with my army of lesbian feminist demons. So what does the internet have for my return?
Eric Dondero, Right Wing News*:
Statement from fmr. Ron Paul staffer on Newsletters, Anti-Semitism
Is it too late to tell Tintin I quit?
Sigh, okay, how to explain the backstory on this one? if you have been out actually spending time with loved ones instead of scouring the internet for news, you may have missed that the Republican Primary’s search for Not Romney has gotten to the point that the Republican bigwigs have been terrified that perennial also-ran Ron Paul might have a chance and fired the opening salvos accordingly. This means our lazy media has actually almost started looking into Ron Paul’s positions and actions, such as his long-standing political newletters and their various conspiracy theory ideologies and massive racism, sexism, homophobia, and so on. Since then, Paulbots have been out on force at any blog that mentions them** to try and argue that the sky is green and thus Ron Paul and the Libertarian movement aren’t really racists.
Got all that?
Good, now forget all that, because frankly who gives a damn and besides, this former staffer gives us much fresher mangos in his overzealous urge to defend his old boss. Let us dive in.
I’ve noticed in some media that my words have been twisted and used for an agenda from both sides. And I wish to set the record straight with media that I trust and know will get the story right: conservative/libertarian-conservative bloggers.
Because they have a fantastic record of not twisting words towards an agenda. Oh wait, this is the famous Palin definition of the term, where quoting someone verbatim and providing the context is “taking their words out of context” and “twisting them around”.
Is Ron Paul a “racist.” In short, No. I worked for the man for 12 years, pretty consistently. I never heard a racist word expressed towards Blacks or Jews come out of his mouth. Not once.
And you can trust him on that, white Southerners are the best judges of what is and isn’t racist. Like when rappers use the word n***er but right wing bloggers aren’t allowed to. He’d be able to see that as racist faster than anyone!
He has frequently hired blacks for his office staff, starting as early as 1988 for the Libertarian campaign. He has also hired many Hispanics, including his current District staffer Dianna Gilbert-Kile.
And as we know, bigots never ever hire and employ members of the minority they are bigoted against. Especially when they are trying to appear less biogted as a desperate attempt to curry favor with left-leaning white college kids who are looking for a “reasonable conservative” or “an alternative to the two-party system, man”.
I don’t even know why I’m talking about it, seeing as how it never happens.
One caveat: He is what I would describe as “out of touch,” with both Hispanic and Black culture.
Oh? Really? Why, please, do go on.
He is completely clueless when it comes to Hispanic and Black culture, particularly Mexican-American culture. And he is most certainly intolerant of Spanish and those who speak strictly Spanish in his presence, (as are a number of Americans, nothing out of the ordinary here.)
There is absolutely no racism in his body, as long as you never ever make him aware that you are in any way a black or hispanic person.
And he completely freaks out the second someone speaks Spanish around him like literally hundreds of non-racist grandmas around the country.
“Hello, 911, what’s your emergency?”
“I heard two unsavory types speaking that secret devil language, I think they may be one of those gangbangers I hear so much about.”
“Mr. Paul, please stop calling.”
Is Ron Paul an Anti-Semite? Absolutely No. As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side)
Wait, wait, wait. You really felt the need to bring this up? Don’t you have to wait for the accusation before you start defending them. If someone introduced me to a guy by going “Is he a serial killer? Absolutely No.” I might have to start wondering exactly why he felt the needed to be pre-emptively defended.
I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened too over the years, or in my personal presence that could be called, “Anti-Semite.” No slurs. No derogatory remarks.
Wow, Ron Paul had the self-restraint to avoid calling you a kike bastard or refer constantly to your jew nose. Give that man a medal for that astonishing work on behalf of a hated minority.
He is however, most certainly Anti-Israel, and Anti-Israeli in general. He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. He expressed this to me numerous times in our private conversations. His view is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.
Memo to anyone left-leaning who finds themselves agreeing with Ron Paul on anything. He is not supporting it for the same reasons you do.
So yeah, most people might see the oppression and lack of real representation of the Palestinian people as a civil rights issue.
Ron Paul just thinks that waiting for Christ’s return to get rid of all the Jews in the holy land is a waste of damn time. But, no anti-semitism. Just like the rest of the evangelical Christian “allies of Israel”.
On the incident that’s being talked about in some blog media about the campaign manager directing me to a press conference of our opponent Lefty Morris in Victoria to push back on Anti-Jewish charges from the Morris campaign, yes, that did happen. The Victoria Advocate described the press conference very accurately. Yes, I was asked (not forced), to attend the conference dressed in a Jewish yarlmuke, and other Jewish adornments.
Who’s a good little set piece? You are!
Ah, how cute and totally non-bigoted it is to force your minority members to perform as ornaments to block accusations of bigotry. And so very humanizing too! Yes it is! Yes it is!
Now, dress up in your silly costume for a cookie. Good staffer!
Is Ron Paul a homo-phobe? Well, yes and no. He is not all bigoted towards homosexuals. He supports their rights to do whatever they please in their private lives.
Demonstrated by his strong voting record on…
You know, I can’t keep a straight face for that one, so I’ll just note that he’s got a 38% record on gay rights from HRC and getting a 100% from them is so easy, certain people’s moms have done it by accident.
He is however, personally uncomfortable around homosexuals, no different from a lot of older folks of his era.
Oh do tell.
In 1988, Ron had a hardcore Libertarian supporter, Jim Peron, Owner of Laissez Faire Books in San Francisco. Jim set up a magnificent 3-day campaign swing for us in the SF Bay Area. Jim was what you would call very openly Gay. But Ron thought the world of him. For 3 days we had a great time trouncing from one campaign event to another with Jim’s Gay lover.
Snrk. Sorry, I’ll be more mature.
Snrk.
The atmosphere was simply jovial between the four of us. (As an aside we also met former Cong. Pete McCloskey during this campaign trip.) We used Jim’s home/office as a “base.” Ron pulled me aside the first time we went there, and specifically instructed me to find an excuse to excuse him to a local fast food restaurant so that he could use the bathroom. He told me very clearly, that although he liked Jim, he did not wish to use his bathroom facilities. I chided him a bit, but he sternly reacted, as he often did to me, Eric, just do what I say. Perhaps “sternly” is an understatement. Ron looked at me directly, and with a very angry look in his eye, and shouted under his breath: “Just do what I say NOW.”
He loves gay people as long as they aren’t doing anything gay like using his toilet. His gayness could rub off on the toilet seat, corrupting his anus and making him desire the man-cock. Do you want to live in a world where Ron Paul is a slavering gay lust beast?
Of course not. No one does. So let us salute this proud patriot!
“Bobby,” a well-known and rather flamboyant and well-liked gay man in Freeport came to the BBQ. Let me stress Ron likes Bobby personally, and Bobby was a hardcore campaign supporter. But after his speech, at the Surfside pavilion Bobby came up to Ron with his hand extended, and according to my fellow staffer, Ron literally swatted his hand away. Again, let me stress. I would not categorize that as “homo-phobic,”
So he believes that the touch of a minority member will corrupt his very soul and is literally terrified of the idea of any type of contact either direct or indirect by a gay person. But to call that homophobic?
That’s just mean***.
It’s his foreign policy that’s the problem; not so much some stupid and whacky things on race and gays he may have said or written in the past.
Yeah! It’s the few locations where his bigoted nuttery interferes with conservative orthodoxy that are the problem, not a level of bigotry that might make George Wallace say “hey, now!” Damn liberals, always making a big deal out of the wrong thing****.
I think we can all agree that the hole Ron Paul dug himself into is not at all at the same height it once was, thanks to this article*****.
*That’s the real name, no funny edits needed or possible. Well played nutjobs. Well played.
**You’re welcome for the incoming troll infestation, by the way.
***There’s some stuff after this about some meanness surrounding a lone female staffer who may or may not have been the fall guy for an embezzlement scandal (one of several in the Paul campaign) which was totally worse than all the faithfully transcribed bigotry and thus caused him to leave. I’d recommend checking it out for those with strong enough stomachs to leap off the boat.
****After this there’s a long bit about the war votes that get so much press by Paulbots. Naturally it points out that its Paul’s isolationist xenophobia that is the root of those votes, though there’s a funny line where he blames the famous “almost no” vote on Afghanistan on “being under the spell of left-anarchists”. I didn’t include it, because this is already so long that some people died of scroll fatigue. By the way, I’ll notify your next of kin immediately.
*****I’ll also note that the staffer didn’t even try to defend against the sexism charge. What, Ron Paul doesn’t think there should be a government, except for a singular office which is wholly obsessed with women’s vaginas and what women do with them? Yeah, I don’t even got nothing. It truly is refreshing to see someone so committed to the excavation once down in the hole realize briefly that an extra tunnel into the depths of Moria, might not be the best idea.
We’ll need mining equipment if we’re going to make this hole any deeper
Drill baby drill!
As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side)
From the Redundancy Department of Redundancy.
This means our lazy media has actually almost started looking into Ron Paul’s positions and actions, such as his long-standing political newletters and their various conspiracy theory ideologies and massive racism, sexism, homophobia, and so on.
Unless Karl Rove clearly instructs them to do so, preferably via Matt Drudge, don’t wait up nights…
Aww, the Haus of Sad brought us a new post for Christmas!
*sniffies*
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Whua?
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This reads like another Rovian-style torpedo job against the latest Not-Romney. Oh well, another one bites the dust.
He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs.
O RLY???
Mr Dondero is not coming across as the brightest light on the
XmasMithrasmas tree.By the way, I’ll notify your next of kin immediately.
i.e. YER MOM.
Memo to anyone left-leaning who finds themselves agreeing with Ron Paul on anything. He is not supporting it for the same reasons you do.
I have to remind my mother of this on a consistent basis. The news comes on and talks about something Paul said, she says “well, I agree with that,” and I have to say, “yes, but you’re agreeing with it because you have a soul. He’s saying it because he doesn’t want to pay the taxes for it.”
Thank you for the shiny new thread, SadlyClaus, even if it is a day late…
Paulinception – we need to not go deeper.
A perusal of the wretched bloviations emitted from his cretinous spawn tells you everything you need to know about Teh Blimp-Pimp.
Ironically, apologetic Paultard unintentionally makes a valid point. Even traits as vile as Paul’s racism, anti-Semitism or sexism pale compared to what the man keeps proposing (with a childlike eagerness that is a wonder to behold) to do with/to America … if somehow just enough voters can simultaneously trip balls hard enough on election day to put him in charge. Ron Paul could be a black female bisexual Buddhist hipster, & her Goldbuggy/nihilist-y/Cloudcuckooland-y ideas would still make her a Nightmare President.
Global economy headshot much?
President Paul would make Dubya look like FDR.
There’s gold in them thar hills! Precious gold!
Yeeeeee ha!!!!
This whole gold standard argument makes me laugh at the macroeconomic ignorance involved. There is not enough gold in the world to back the dollars in circulation now, not to mention in the future. Gold, like paper has no intrinsic value as currency only the value we assign to it. Gold has many industrial uses but the only other value it has is purely psychological.
You’ll all be sorry when President Paul closes down your State-sponsored schools and there’ll be nothing left to recruit boys into homo-sexuality!
Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63i0ncXiaXE
and there’ll be nothing left to recruit boys into homo-sexuality!
Ahem.
but the only other value it has is purely psychological.
It’s also kind of pretty.
Over the weekend, one of my brothers-in-law casually remarked while watching basketball, that now with HD tv, he could tell which black player was which.
My gob was smacked.
However, it makes me think that he also was likely to pipe up and say “You know, That Ron Paul makes a lot of sense!”
Not wanting to be part of THAT, I went into the other room to top off my drink. Then I topped that one off again, because the first one fled down my throat in fear, and I sent the next one down to comfort all of them.
Mittens is pretty and extremely malleable, those aren’t necessarily good things.
You know, maybe this Dondero guy is right. Maybe Ron Paul is not a racist at all. Maybe Paul sent out all those ultra-racist newsletters not because he himself was a vicious bigot, but merely because he was cynically pandering to vicious bigots. That would be much more admirable.
Tl;Dr.
Executive summary please.
Just sayin’.
A Ron Paul book for X-Mas makes a young girl cry.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/scarce/ron-pauls-book-christmas-gift-makes-republi
I did not post that at :38, what gives.
Tl;Dr.
Executive summary please.
Just sayin’.
Fuck, you folks are needy.
When Tintin is doing yeoman’s work putting up Shorters at a blistering pace, everybody complains that shorters are BORING.
Now there’s sweet meaty fiskings by Cerberus, and it’s all “Wahhh! I can’t read ALL THOSE WURDS!”
G’head and read ’em, Gocart, I guarantee you there’s funnehs in there.
Mittens is pretty and extremely malleable, those aren’t necessarily good things.
You could always wear gloves.
For 3 days we had a great time trouncing from one campaign event to another with Jim’s Gay lover.
Like flouncing, but 2/3 less gay.
Is Ron Paul a homo-phobe? Well, yes and no. He is not all bigoted towards homosexuals. He supports their rights to do whatever they please in their private lives.
As long as it doesn’t include using any bathroom he has access to or shaking his hand. Seriously, “gay people are alright as long as they are totally in the closet and no one has any idea homosexuality exists except in the abstract and dear GOD do not touch me” is pretty definitively homophobia.
I did not post that at :38, what gives.
Oh. hey. Look at that, the nym doesn’t have the lonk.
Sorry for my comment, gocart, then it appears a nym-thief is about.
He is not all bigoted towards homosexuals
He just won’t touch ’em or use their bathrooms.
OK; maybe not bigoted: pathological.
Once upon a time I was waiting in line at a busy barbecue place when, apropos of nothing, a highly enthusiastic Paultard in front of me started lecturing the overworked guy at the register on the virtues of the gold standard. The checkout guy’s ‘what-the-fuck-is-this-shit’ expression was magnificent.
Maybe Ron Paul is not a racist at all. Maybe Paul sent out all those ultra-racist newsletters not because he himself was a vicious bigot, but merely because he was cynically pandering to vicious bigots.
He (or his ghostwriter) was marketing the Original Ron Paul Survival Kit to credulous idiots, hence the Turner Diaries coming-race-war rhetoric.
You could be generous and say that he was not so much “cynically pandering to vicious bigots” as “cynically relieving vicious bigots of their surplus money”.
It was the Free Market, forcing him to work to worsen race relations.
And as the Ron Paul Fan-boys like to explain when they descend en masse upon threads where their idol is criticised, the Free Market itself is colour-blind, so the real racists are those black people who stubbornly insist on remaining black.
The fact is, there will be a race war and the first shots have been fired with Obamas totalitalitarian marxist black power state. We, the people, the Tea Bag Party, are fighting back for the consitituion and frredom.
frredom.
Awesome.
They may take our lives, but they’ll never take our frredom!
Like flouncing, but 2/3 less gay.
Tigger sez; “We’re bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy, fun fun fun fun fun.”
I bet tigris knows this and is just playing us.
Is Ron Paul a homo-phobe? Well, yes and no. He is not all bigoted towards homosexuals. He supports their rights to do whatever they please in their private lives.
Worth noting that Paul is a prominent member of the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons — basically the John Birch society with a stethoscope — so he can hardly dissociate himself from their official position that homosexuals are filthy anti-social promiscuous disease-spreaders.
It’s been scientifically proven that homo-cooties can swim up your urine stream.
he can hardly dissociate himself from [the AAPS’s] official position
… of course it’s always possible that he was too busy to read it.
Where can I get words for my new agenda?
So, they “trounced around” with a gay couple. I suppose Ron called cadence to keep teh gay from making those mincing little steps.
Given, you know, history and stuff, I think any American who thinks Israel should be cancelled has a lot of explaining to do. Like namely why they’re not living in England, and haven’t, you know, given the country they stole with the British’s help back to the
ArabsIndians.Also, I mean, Paul never heard of Levantine Jews? I assure him they exist. I mean, I was just there a few weeks ago and I saw some with my very own eyes. ‘Course, my eyes are liberal socialist commie Canadian United Empire Loyalist-descended turncoats, but I’m still pretty sure I saw some.
Just because everyone say’s Ron Paul is a racist doesn’t mean he’s not a racist.
“For 3 days we had a great time trouncing from one campaign event to another with Jim’s Gay lover and they never once tried to ram their gay “agenda” down our throats.” [extended remix version]
The fact is, there will be a race war and the first shots have been fired with Obamas totalitalitarian marxist black power state.
Well, what kind of pussies are ya, not shooting back? Or maybe I’m missing the war news. Fill me in.
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Do you want to live in a world where Ron Paul is a slavering gay lust beast?
It depends. Does this alternate reality have airships? ‘Cause airships are really cool.
BTW, more Paultard baiting.
Eric Dondero is an agent of the Mossad. Pass it on.
‘Cause airships are really cool.
I’m willing to sign on for mastodons. C’mon, there’s plenty of dna out there melting out of the permafrost, are mastodons too much to ask?
C’mon, there’s plenty of dna out there melting out of the permafrost
I knew Levi Johnston was hard up, but EW.
I’d be happy with wooly mammoths. I understand it might be easier. That would be OK.
I gotcher wooly mammoth, rightcheer. Wanna see its trunk?
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From N__B’s link:
Oh a Ron Paul post. These are always drama free.
It would seem that the troll-be-gone that Cerberus brought with her to the top of the page continues to protect us. I doubt even the Real Gary would do battle with our new Overlady.
plenty of dna out there melting out of the permafrost
Obligatory.
Can anyone tell me what word he meant instead of “trouncing”? Because “trouncing” means defeating someone, not travelling around. And obviously he can’t have meant to say that a gay activist “flounced” between engagements, can he?
Can anyone tell me what word he meant instead of “trouncing”?
Flouncing is out?
Fisting, maybe?
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Sternly Reacting to a Bit of Chiding
Probably the word he was looking for was “traipsing,” though he might refudiate that and insist he used the word he meant to use.
Yeah, that stuck out at me too.
‘No, I said trounce‘.
Maybe they can get an unfrozen caveman lawyer to run for the GOP nomination?
Oh wait, that’s Newt.
“sashayed”
For 3 days we had a great time fisting from one campaign event to another
No wonder the Republican establishment fears Ron Paul.
Maybe “jousting”? Does Paul own a lance?
“Sex Rehab: Tight, Wet & Juicy” is appropriate holiday fare for the whole family, right?
Tight, Wet & Juicy
But enough about my watermelon…
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
In between turns of spitting out the seeds, yes.
All alternate realities have airships.
All alternate realities have airships.
Do they all have gay, lustful Ron Pauls?
N_B pays for my brain bleach.
Thank you thank you thank you! Eric Dondero actually thought he was HELPING! I’m almost starting to believe there is a god.
I’m going to proxy-AHEM: Do you want to live in a world where Ron Paul is a slavering gay lust beast? is from the original post.
Although the idea of a lisping Ron Paul doppelgänger sporting a “Khan” ‘do and leather vest and going by the name Pon Raul does make me giggle.
Night 3 of the Mrsless filmfest: the restored Metropolis. With the missing scenes, the plot now makes sense, but Freder Fredersen is still a douche and RobotMaria is infinitely preferable to MariaMaria.
Ask him about his plans for returning America to the golden shower standard.
I’m not racist! My dog is black!
Night 3 of the Mrsless filmfest: the restored Metropolis.
It’s never the same without the Moroder soundtrack.
He slapped his gay supporter’s hand away? Ho-lee shit. I don’t give a damn how old he is, that is fucking rude, man. Previously, I thought Paul’s stances on every thing but Iraq and drug legalization reprehensible – and with the caveat that I understand he and I came to our mutual conclusions on where we agree from very different reasons – and his followers unsettling, but I’m beginning to actually dislike the jackass. He’s like school at Christmas, no class.
And here’s the thing about some of Paul’s wackier ideas such as the goldbuggery or the dissolving of the IRS thing or the whole “eliminate the federal government except for a new Department of Gilead” thing, here’s what I don’t get. Apparently, he’s supposed to make such a seismic blast upon Washington when he starts getting his mail at 1600 Pennsylvania that the entire Establishment – the politicians and the corporate interests that have far too much pull in both parties and this isn’t the place for that discussion, so don’t start with me – is just going to collectively say, “Sure thing, Doc.” For cryin’ out loud, we can’t even get a fairly innocuous, barely effective national health care program without having a collective shit fit. There are some powerful cats making some extremely serious bread in this game and they have no qualms about fucking your shit right up if’n you try to put an end to it.
And frankly, knowing what I know about Paul, I honestly don’t think he’d fight ’em all that hard. Oh, sure, he might make some noises and his followers will probably blame it fucking Martians or something, who knows, but when the rubber hits the road, he’d cave sure as your born. So long, probably, they toss him a few bones to keep him busy, like abortion or some wall along the California coast or some shit like that.
Night 3 of the Mrsless filmfest: the restored Metropolis.
It’s never the same without the Moroder soundtrack.
Never saw that one. I saw the pre-1980sization version and bought the new restored version.
He slapped his gay supporter’s hand away? Ho-lee shit. I don’t give a damn how old he is, that is fucking rude, man.
Absolutely. Any man, gay, straight, left- or right-handed, has touched a penis with his right fucking hand, for dog’s sakes.
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the restored Metropolis
From the Golden Age of over-acting. Where would Mad Scientists be without Rotwang as a role-model?
I suppose all the actors back then came straight from the theatrical-acting tradition of amping up your gestures and facial expressions to be visible to the audience in the cheap seats, and it never occurred to them to change that for a movie screen.
It paints an unflattering and I dare say accurate picture of the
electoratemob. One minute they are all “Yay! Let’s destroy the machinery that keeps our homes liveable and leave our children to drown in our homes as they flood!” Next minute they are all “That was a really stupid idea; let’s blame someone else, and burn her!”It’s never the same without the Moroder soundtrack.
well, here goes the last vestiges of my IMS cred:
When you posted your initial comment about watching the movie, N__B, I had just started digitizing that soundtrack.
From the Golden Age of over-acting.
MAX SCHRENK WAS NOT ACTING!
From the Golden Age of over-acting. Where would Mad Scientists be without Rotwang as a role-model?
Imitating Poindexter. The mind boggles.
I suppose all the actors back then came straight from the theatrical-acting tradition of amping up your gestures and facial expressions to be visible to the audience in the cheap seats, and it never occurred to them to change that for a movie screen.
I could be wrong, but I believe Lang wanted them acting like that. His much-ballyhooed visual sense was better tuned to still-lives than people.
It paints an unflattering and I dare say accurate picture of the electorate mob. One minute they are all “Yay! Let’s destroy the machinery that keeps our homes liveable and leave our children to drown in our homes as they flood!” Next minute they are all “That was a really stupid idea; let’s blame someone else, and burn her!”
Fucking-A-bubba. I also like the degenerate children* of the rich in their Eloi playground.
*I.e., thirty-year-olds wearing short pants.
MAX SCHRENK WAS NOT ACTING!
He was just wondering where that “N” came from.
He was just wondering where that “N” came from.
I was scared by a bat when I was a child.
I also like the degenerate children* of the rich in their Eloi playground.
Those scenes had me giggling. Didn’t he have any age-appropriate actors to
exploitcast as a maturing adolescent?I was scared by a bat when I was a child.
That’s supposed to teach you that criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot. Or, in Grant Morrison’s words: Mommy’s dead. Daddy’s dead. I will become a bat.
He was just wondering where that “N” came from.
Are we still discussing Ron Paul?
Didn’t he have any age-appropriate actors to exploit cast as a maturing adolescent?
Obviously yes, but he cast them all as peasants in rags.
I also like the degenerate children* of the rich in their Eloi playground.
Paris Hilton and her siblings?
I said degenerate, not devolutionary.
Where would Mad Scientists be without Rotwang as a role-model?
I believe dr. Clayton Forrester would have single-handedly invented the archetype, if that had been the case.
Heh heh heh. ROTWANG.
Heh heh heh. ROTWANG.
The focus group rejected Crotchitch as the villain’s name.
I suppose all the actors back then came straight from the theatrical-acting tradition of amping up your gestures and facial expressions to be visible to the audience in the cheap seats, and it never occurred to them to change that for a movie screen.
They sometimes show a few minutes from this movie by Lang made earlier in the 1920s on the Classical Arts channel, and you get the same sense of the actor playing Siegfried seeming to become a ranting maniac, not just an actor chewing the scenery.
“All alternate realities have airships.”
And none of them are balloons!
I suppose all the actors back then came straight from the theatrical-acting tradition of amping up your gestures and facial expressions to be visible to the audience in the cheap seats, and it never occurred to them to change that for a movie screen.
Like a lot of science fiction, Metropolis is allegory, not meant to be taken literally. This is often lost on Western viewers/readers, who, in the tradition of Brit-Lit and the American variant, expect realism. (H.G. Wells famously had to explain that the characters in his Things to Come were “human symbols”, not attempts at believable fictional persons.)
Heh heh heh. ROTWANG.
And when Metropolis was first shown in New York City (!), all of the references to “Hell” had to be censored, thus rendering the story incomprehensible. Fucking translation, how does it work?
Are we still discussing Ron Paul?
That would serve our purposes how?
Relevant.
I give the post an 8.
Eight PG DN to get to the comments link. 😉
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Bears a striking resemblance to one of my old biochem professors.
I give the post an 8.
TinTin and Cerebrus have different styles. I like them both … for different reasons.
BTW, a late Merry Chri$tma$ to all. I stayed in bed all day and tried to ignore the whole thing. (Did that at Thanksgiving, too. ) I do not handle the holidays well. Once I get past Noo Year’s things seem to improve.
Didn’t drink a thing, but smoked plenty of weed on Chri$tmaS and watched Netflix almost non-stop. Ate egg salad sandwiches, cottage cheese, and raspberry jello.
Like a lot of science fiction, Metropolis is allegory, not meant to be taken literally.
And was an adaptation of a popular novel of the day, so expecting the characters to function as plausible facsimiles of human beings rather than as ventriloquist dummies voicing opposing philosophies would be like bringing the same expectation to a movie version of a Michael Crichton novel.
I have to keep reminding myself that German literature of the 1920s was not just marginal elitists like Meyrink and Mann and Döblin and Kafka, but was dominated by popular symbolist shite, which was what Lang’s backers expected him to work with.
“Does this alternate reality have airships? ‘Cause airships are really cool.”
“All alternate realities have airships.”
“I’m willing to sign on for mastodons.”
I like both! Especially in Jasper Fforde’s Thursday Next novels.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thursday_Next
We’ll Need
Mining EquipmentBunker-Busting Munitions if We’re Going to Make This Hole Any Deeperell any more real.F’zd, for
greatermore proper righty violence.Checking the Internet, I see that although the credits for Metropolis mention a novel of the same name, sources reckon that this was actually written in parallel (although released before the movie’s completion). So the relationship between book and novel could be described as novelisation rather than adaptation. The main source here is Fritz Lang himself, who by that point had divorced under less than amicable circumstances from the book’s author.
Anyway, comment at 8.49 is not necessarily fact-based.
Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that’s how it always starts. Then later there’s running and screaming.
I’m really wondering if this could be a Poe. Are there people clueless enough to think that such an article is going to be some sort of help?
Wonders never cease.
Is Ron Paul a homo-phobe? Well, yes and no. He is not all bigoted towards homosexuals. He supports their rights to do whatever they please in their private lives.
I realize that it’s hard to focus on a single turd in a torrent of shit, but I wanted to draw everyone’s attention to this one. This is absolutely untrue, by Ron Paul’s own words. Ron Paul believes that Lawrence v. Texas, the Supreme Court decision that struck down their, and all state-level, sodomy laws as unconstitutional, was wrongly decided. He believes that states have the right to outlaw gay sex, even when it occurs in private.
Since then, Paulbots have been out on force at any blog that mentions them**
Guys, I think I win this one. It’s a bold claim, but I may have found the most ridiculous Paulbot trolling blog comment sections right now. Some guy going by Random Opinion has wandered into the comments of this post. Most of it just makes you roll your eyes, but I noticed one bit when I read his comments closely. On the 25th, he wrote a comment from the perspective of a white man (which he obviously is). On the 26th, he decided to start pretending to be a black man who supports Ron Paul. I kid you not. Confronted, he accuses me of being a racist, oblivious to the fact that he had written the bizarre line, “as Black folk we are racist, admit it”. Eventually, he decides to go with the line that he was a black man all along, because only a black man would have ever heard of Iceberg Slim.
Think you can beat that one? I dare you to try. I double dare you. I you have any sense at all, you will save yourselves some time and pronounce me the winner.
I you have any sense at all
Whoops — typo. That should be “If you have any sense at all”, of course.
But I still win.
Oh, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, please tell me you aren’t joining the actor212 camp and criticizing Cerb’s posts for length!
That would be wrong, to join the vocal minority with carpal tunnel syndrome who have difficulty scrolling to the comments. You know, disabled people?
I’m not concerned about Paul’s racism or his homophobia.
I’m concerned because he;s a fucking loon.
only a black man would have ever heard of Iceberg Slim.
I gave up iceberg years ago in solidarity. I now listen to Watercress Slim.
That would be wrong, to join the vocal minority with carpal tunnel syndrome who have difficulty scrolling to the comments. You know, disabled people?
Do everyone here a favor and just leave, actor.
Think of it as a New Year’s resolution.
Eventually, he decides to go with the line that he was a black man all along, because only a black man would have ever heard of Iceberg Slim.
To think, all these years I’ve been passing.
I don’t criticize Cerebrus’ posts for length, I just wish there was a jump to hide the whole thing. I like it when the posts are lengthy, but the amount material on the home page should be short.
Also, this article is fucking hilarious. “Shouted under his breath” sounds like it should be a Swank-ism.
Ron Paul is a homo-phone for Demented Bigot. Wait. Homophones are supposed to sound the same but have a different meaning. What am I thinking of then?
What am I thinking of then?
Synecdoche?
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Dot: Homonym. Not to be confused with Hounyhym, which would be a step up.
A homo by any other nym is trouncing around jovially.
Trouncing Jove.
Yeah, yeah, trouncing had me. Which set me up for the next graf:
“Perhaps ‘sternly’ is an understatement.” Heh. Heh-heh. He said “stern”. Sternly was an”under”-statement. Heh. Heh-heh.
‘Ron looked at me directly, and with a very angry look in his eye, and shouted under his breath: “Just do what I say NOW.”’
*dissolves in snickers* ZOMG. I just turned into Butthead. Oh well, guess everyone knew it but me.
Heh. Heh-heh. I just said “butt me.”
Zombama
Do everyone here a favor and just leave, actor.
Oh, DenDen?
Win!
As always. 🙂
What’s it been, a decade I’ve been kicking your ass up and down cyberspace?
TinTin and Cerebrus have different styles. I like them both … for different reasons.
Oh, not complainin’ — just havin’ fun. I actually read the posts… once. Then comes the PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN on return visits.
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the amount material on the home page should be short.
Or maybe just dick with the template so the comments link is directly under the post title…? Sorry to go all Jakob Nielson on y’all. 😉
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Is it time for a FYWP?
When is it not?
Best Ron Paul line ever:
Ron Paul doesn’t think there should be a government, except for a singular office which is wholly obsessed with women’s vaginas and what women do with them.
I suppose all the actors back then came straight from the theatrical-acting tradition of amping up your gestures and facial expressions to be visible to the audience in the cheap seats, and it never occurred to them to change that for a movie screen.
We had faces.
We had feces.
Mango from the yahoos at Yahoo – that is where the paulbots have congregated recently:
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Is this story suppose to be bad???? hahahahaha. He’ll get a bump up in the numbers in South Carolina. When are you zionist going to learn? The Paul campaign is beating you coming and going. You’re underestimating how much most Americans HATE you Evangelical Christians and zionist jews.
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If you want to see some more feces-flinging howler monkeys go here: http://news.yahoo.com/ex-aide-ron-paul-makes-stunning-claims-old-024410220.html
I know you mean well, but life is too short to read Yahoo comments from yahoos.
Fake troll is fake.
Sigh!
*grinds layer of dust-bunnies, lint & rust from serrated edge of Lulznir*
lint & rust from serrated edge of Lulznir
Your hammer is serrated?
Your hammer is serrated?
My tongs are.
Tongs-t-tong-tong-tongs!
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If Ron Paul refuses to piss in a homotoilet he’s sure as hell not going to make any calls on a homophone.
Your hammer is serrated?
My tongs are.
Doesn’t your buttcrack get cup up alot?
Anon37, that is pretty fucking hilarious, thanks for sharing.
Then comes the PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN PG DN on return visits.
Hit the End button and then you only have to PgUp a couple times through the links. Which should totally be on the sidebar.
If you want to see some more feces-flinging howler monkeys…
…you need to get a life. Srsly. The Paulines, like all other species of MNRs (mind-numbed robots. Thanks, Rusty!), are just no fun. Would you invite one over for your New Years poker game? OK,bad example, because they’re obvious suckers, and have no understanding of “poker face”, but you know what I mean…
My new favorite description, from Anon37’s link: Paulbearers.
Hit the End button and then you only have to PgUp a couple times through the links. Which should totally be on the sidebar.
I mean from the front page — not within the post, itself. I do that within the post page, of course.
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Tintin, I need your mad photoshop skills to superimpose the terrifying head of Callista Gingrich onto the Cheshire Cat’s body. I’ve got the images to combine and even have them sized appropriately to put together but lack both the software and the skills. If you’re willing to do this thing which, let’s admit, must be done, reply in comments and let me know where I can email the image files.
let me know where I can email the image files.
jprestonian at the google mail place, if ya want.
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Ok, jp, here they come…
If you’re willing to do this thing which, let’s admit, must be done
Chthulu demands it.
Just got ’em, Jennifer.
I have a Photoshop 4 Food site, but it hasn’t seen much action in the past year or so. Xbox cards used to be big… this year, not a one.
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N_B, when you see it, you’ll know why it had to be done. It was inevitable.
He wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all.
He’s not an anti-Semite, he just wishes that some other sovereign nation didn’t exist.
That reassures me.
Ok, jp
Done… for now. Let me know if you want adjustments.
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JP @ 19:54
The Post Title is also a link to the post, so clicking it will bring you to the lovely comment page as well, and then you just have to scroll as you would normally to reach the end of the comment chain.
I can look into adding more tags onto the posts if people are clamoring for them though. Tintin thought they were unnecessary, but I can redecide. I will note for posterity that the comment threads will always be longer than my posts to scroll through, so those with scroll-related issues might be unable to fully participate in the comments on any post and I don’t really know of any tags to fix that. I know scroll-related fatigue kills 40,000 people a year. Let us mourn the poor fallen souls.
I’m suffering from codex fatigue.
The Post Title is also a link to the post, so clicking it will bring you to the lovely comment page as well, and then you just have to scroll as you would normally to reach the end of the comment chain.
Well, d’oh!
I feel like a stupe, now. That’s exactly what I needed! Thanks!
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jp, these are awesome. Although the second one looks less photoshopped, you can’t tell it’s Callista. It almost looks like when the cat was fading out of view. I’m going to put up the first one over at my joint now, and then everyone can come see your handiwork. BRB.
Someone posted about Ron Paul being a racist homophobic Xian supremacist turd over at reddit, in r/lgbt. Even there, the Paulbearers (thanks anon37 and N__B!) are out in force. It’s sad, really.
Although the second one looks less photoshopped, you can’t tell it’s Callista.
I didn’t really have a good filter to approximate the style of the original, so I just whipped up a version using Graphic Pen. I figured it might pass for a 5-minute job. 😉
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Nymzfail.
*sigh*
I blame the lamestream media.
The Post Title is also a link to the post, so clicking it will bring you to the lovely comment page as well, and then you just have to scroll as you would normally to reach the end of the comment chain.
hmmm! i learned two new things today…i guess it’s time to clock out then!
I need your mad photoshop skills to superimpose the terrifying head of Callista Gingrich onto the Cheshire Cat’s bodyI need your mad photoshop skills to superimpose the terrifying head of Callista Gingrich onto the Cheshire Cat’s body
AHEM!
More fun with Callista:
http://eusa-riddled.blogspot.com/2011/05/trigger-alert.html
http://eusa-riddled.blogspot.com/2011/05/do-not-envy-who-sees-beyond-pale.html
Smut, well done. I guess it’s true that great minds think alike, because I had not seen that. In any case, the Jennifer/JP version is now posted over at my joint, and if I say so myself, I find it superior since it uses the original Tenniel illustration. But yours is very, very nice, dear.
Also, JP, I’m updating the post to link to you.
I still think Calista looks like a chicken.
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One of those fancy, silky chickens, perhaps… but still, a chicken.
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what the hell is a silky chicken?!?!?!
what the hell is a silky chicken?!?!?!
Let me Google that for ya.
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Callista with a new hairdo.
Let me Google that for ya.
Callista with a new hairdo.
ooooh…both are uncanny!
Callista with a new hairdo.
EXACTLY. I swear, that’s what I see when I look at her.
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Sorry, guys, you’re all wrong.
Callista
Where chicken?
I can look into adding more tags onto the posts if people are clamoring for them though.
Especially for people who read more than just the most recent thread off the front page. Not everyone visits every day like us regulars, Cerb. Thanks.
that’s what I see when I look at her.
ooph…i JUST got this…
ooph…i JUST got this…
And here I was thinkin’ I was bein’ all Captain Obvious…
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Callista
And here I was thinkin’ I was bein’ all Captain Obvious…
you didn’t realize you were dealing with lt. dimwit…
As a Jew, (half on my mother’s side)
From the Redundancy Department of Redundancy.
Also, too: a Jewish yarlmuke [sic]. Is there a muslim one?
This guy…
Honestly, who cares? Paul is a symptom of how awful our Presidential elections are. To the mild extent that he’s popular on the left, it’s because of his views on the drug war and the GWOT, and on those issues he’s better than
A) All the other Republican candidates
B) Barack Obama
Whether you agree with him for sane or insane reasons, he’s so far on the political fringe that no other candidate could possibly be acceptable. None of these other yahoos are going to do anything but escalate the war on drugs and take us further away from the gold standard. I think that’s why his supporters seem so tenacious; if those issues seem important to you it’s pretty much Paul or nothing.
If you vote for Paul it’s a devil’s bargain, where you hope his lunacy and general personal unpleasantness are outweighed by his support of your pet issues, or, alternatively, you could vote for anybody else and make the exact same bargain.
I plan to spend election day praying to a variety of gods for a better political system.
Also, too: a Jewish yarlmuke [sic]. Is there a muslim one?
There was a Samaritan one, but they’ve switched to fezes.
That’s a true fact, by the way, not a gag.
comment at 8.49 is not necessarily fact-based.
I read the English paperback translation of the novel in the 1970s, and it was serialized in a German periodical( or a newspaper, the Berliner Tagesblatter or some such thing), so I think the novel came first and the picture came afterwards.
Ask me about the time I met Curt Siodmak face to face.
Ask me about the time I met Curt Siodmak face to face.
Ask me about my granddog.
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They wear fezes now. Fezes are cool.
Ask me about my granddog.
The conservatives warned us that allowing gays to marry would lead us right into bestiallity, but did we listen? Sadly, No!
Ron Paul; the rest of the GOP field; or Obama:
Insane; evil; or ineffectual and compromised.
Yep, that’s your choice. Actually, it won’t be your choice, because Ropaul has zero chance of being nominated.
Siodmak lived in the little town of Three Rivers, up in the foothills north of here, and he was invited to talk to some of us seniors in high school about his career.
He told us about getting paid in a suitcase of cash for a story he’d sold when he was living and writing in Weimar Germany, he and his wife waded barefoot in said cash because they were down to their last pfennig at that point in time.
Ask me about my crippling shyness
There’s new posts on the horizon.
Like a lot of science fiction, Metropolis is allegory, not meant to be taken literally.
It’s noticeable that the biblical-epic elements are stronger in the latest restoration than in the cut versions.
I’m not posting from my usual digs but I wondered if any of you ever heard the Metropolis score by the Alloy Orchestra. It’s quite good.
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