srsly?

The irony is, whether people in Venezuala want to hear it or not, that Chavez is right. It’s not the wisest decision for a woman in poverty to borrow money to enlarge her tits. Just like it’s not a great decision for a woman in this country, all the “whatever makes you feel better about yourself” aside. The goal should be to get people to where they feel better about themselves without spending thousands going under the knife.

Too bad the news crew didn’t check in with some of the women who had theirs done 20 years ago when they were in their 20s. You know, the bigger they are, the further they fall, and the surgery to pick them up again? It’s not the $2000 – $3000 it costs to get them done in the first place – it’s more like $10,000 – $12,000. So unless getting them “done” in the first place paid big dividends, the other way women get to pay for having them done is by looking a LOT worse in the last 40 years of their lives.

i know it’s early for comment mangoes, and some are hungover, but srsly:

Also, it’s interesting to note how people, especially “news people” hypocritically portray things like boob enhancement and “gender reassignment,” also know as transgenderism. Women enlarge their boobs to conform to the pressure of society so it is not acceptable, and even detrimental to the mental health of women, says many people, but undergoing a sex-change operation is not only acceptable, it’s considered advisable for the mental health of transgendered people! If that’s not a clear cut example of hypocrisy, then I don’t know what is!

that is correct: you do not…

The irony is, whether people in Venezuala want to hear it or not, that Chavez is right.

ikr? that’s what i find most interesting about this story, and no matter what newsbusters think their ‘busting’ i find this story more compelling than just re-airing chavez’ crimes and insanity…

the comments are just ripe with BOOBS…LET ME LOOK AT THEM…and i’ve made a discovery over the past two days…dennis’ resurfacing led me to re-visit the donalde flap and he straight out says–yeah, us real conservative d00ds like to send each other sexy girl pictures and there ain’t nothing wrong with that! newsblusters apparently agrees with that ..women are just something to be looked at and passed around…

yeah…dudes! our eyes are up here!

omg..watching an abfab i haven’t seen before…hilarious!

What? Ladies have eyes?
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Women enlarge their boobs to conform to the pressure of society so it is not acceptable, and even detrimental to the mental health of women, says many people, but undergoing a sex-change operation is not only acceptable, it’s considered advisable for the mental health of transgendered people!

We’re also anti-rape but neutral to positive on sex with consent, including masturbation. O, hypocrisy!

tigris – I know, right? Women get boob jobs because they feel pressured by society to have bigger breasts, while people get sex change operations despite societal approbation. Exactly the same thing.

We don’t care what you ladies do with your bodies as long as its’ OK with us.

@Jennifer – May I hug your comment?

I would like an expose of how many replays “Hubba Ubba Dubba Bubba Trubba Whatevba”‘s TiVo gave him of this item before a little white flag popped out of the vent, reading, “Antiques Roadshow, or anything on a CBS sunday night, please? Or just take some valium?”

Apparently my cats need attention, to judge by the claws marks on my chest and the fact that viewing my laptop has been an intermittent phenomenon over the past 20 minutes.

At any rate, so, what, he’s the conservative who values politics over breasteses? Doesn’t that get you kicked out of CPAC? I thought one of the major GOP planks was “All your lady parts are belong to us”…

No offense, but why the fuck is Nightline doing a report on Venezuelan implants. Are there not enough stories to investigate in the world other than that?

Leave it to that dirty socialist Chavez to pull the rug out from under the Job Creators in the breast enhancement industry who are simply trying to provide a service that the marketplace clearly values.

Newzbusterz sure proves how liberal the media is on the most trivial and inconsequential level. And by liberal that means not 100% in Bozo-zell’s corner. It’s pretty shocking how many flying monkeys they must have over there picking the fly poop out of the pepper to produce all these yawn-inducing conspiracy stories they churn out. ABC and Hugo Chavez is the biggest team-up since the Molotov-Ribbentropp deal and the poor US is just like Poland in the middle!

“When a person shows you who they are, believe them the first time.”– Maya Angelou.

OT – I’m sure everyone else heard this already and I’m late to the bacchanalia, but (Flacks News of all places) Rick “Man on Dog, Priest on Altar Boy” Santorum claimed to have “not heard the boos, just too busy formulatin’ my answer” and condemned the boo-ers, and thanked the soldier for his service. No answer re: “So does this mean that a gay man is not satan?”

Has Wall Street had its “taste” of this business. I can just see some Wall Street moron bundling these sub-prime breast enhancement loans and securitizing them before selling them onto a European bank. Will it be the next financial crisis?

Whitlock was so shocked by ABC’s exploitive report on big Venezuelan boobies that he had no choice but to report on ABC’s report on big Venezuelan boobies, complete with a big Venezuelan boobies video, a big Venezuelan boobies photo, and a long transcript discussing big Venezuelan boobies, all presented in a totally non-exploitive way.

And thus ends another episode of When Socialists Scold. Up next: When Conservatives Condemn in the Noblest Most Glorious Way EVAR.

Scott Whitlock is the senior news analyst for the Media Research Center.

Also I expect analysts to keep a closer watch on butt implant news.

O.T.: My petition for the White House.

Only 4,982 signatures to go!
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“Women enlarge their boobs to conform to the pressure of society so it is not acceptable, and even detrimental to the mental health of women, says many people, but undergoing a sex-change operation is not only acceptable, it’s considered advisable for the mental health of transgendered people!”

Eh? It’s still too early for this shit.

As soon as they can teach one of these big-boobed Chavez-haters to speak passable English, she’ll be given a seat on the Fox and Freaks Show.

No, VS, morning shits are a pleasurable thing. Whitlock, on the other hand…

As soon as they can teach one of these big-boobed Chavez-haters to speak passable English, she’ll be given a seat on the Fox and Freaks Show.

Meg(y/a)n Kelly?

Fox’s Megyn Kelly On Presidential Elections: “Does It Matter — Should It Matter — If Somebody Is Dumb?”
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Heh. Poor “Dennis”… his troll-bait ain’t working.

Baiting the troll.

Chavez, always spending oil money on infrastructure and social services for the impoverished majority of his country. Always providing low interest loans to other poor countries as an alternative to the neo-liberal IMF/WB/US Treasury axis.

What a horrible mad man he is!!

Heh. Poor “Dennis”… his troll-bait ain’t working.

really poor work, isn’t it? He may have to repeat Trolling 102.

The idea that the MSM is liberal is bad enough, but the allegation that it’s pro-Chavez is positively insane.

“With yesterday’s resignation of President Hugo Chávez, Venezuelan democracy is no longer threatened by a would-be dictator. Mr. Chávez, a ruinous demagogue, stepped down after the military intervened and handed power to a respected business leader, Pedro Carmona.”

–Those Damn Commies at the NY Times, 13 April 2002

MMMM, BOOBIES!

Hey, wait.

EEEEEEWWWWWWW, NEWSBUSTERS!

A corporate media twerp is far more interested in “researching” silicone Venezuelan titty than in Chavez being repressive? Gasp! Also, shudder! Great mother of pearl! Whodathunkit?!?

The M$M-covering-for-teh-evil-socialist angle is about the saddest, saggiest, flimsiest little tattered fig-leaf for a not-quite-pathetic-enough-to-be-funny online circle-jerk that I’ve seen in a while.

Methinks that the RNC won’t be poaching Whitlock’s devastating “those filthy liberals – they LOOOOVE boobs, you know” meme for 2012.

N.B. – Do NOT read the comments unless you’re desperate to drop a few surplus IQ points … sweet bleeding Jesus Murphy, I sure hope I can re-remember where I work by tonight.

How were they supposed to work “Chavez is an anti American monster” into a story about breast implants? If ever two postulates struck me as independent, “Chavez hates GW Bush” and “Chavez thinks too many women are wasting money on implants” certainly sound like they are.

If ever two postulates struck me as independent, “Chavez hates GW Bush” and “Chavez thinks too many women are wasting money on implants” certainly sound like they are.

Hugo Chavez: anti-boob.

Well played, Tigris.

Dennis haz a SAD cuz no other concern trolls got his back. Why don’t you cry about it?

I can’t quite grasp the whole premise here. Newsblusters seems not so much upset that a so-called news show would cover something that really shouldn’t be news here as they are that the so-called news show didn’t use it as an opportunity to point out that Hugo Chaves is a commie socialist. And also, that Chavez is a brutal dictator for making an observation/stating an opinion. Presumably if they had, then it wouldn’t be an example of liberal media bias and it would have dropped off Newblusterers radar screen.

I could agree that it’s not much of a news story, but beyond that…Chavez didn’t outlaw implants or threaten the doctors who perform them or anyone who promotes having them done. He just said it’s not the best use of money by poor women. Presumably the kind of thing conservatives think someone should have been telling poor people here who were buying expensive houses they couldn’t afford back in the early-mid 2000s. Their complaints about Chavez playing “daddy” are of a piece with their insistence that Michelle Obama is a food Nazi because she has publicly stated that good food is better for us and more nutritious than crap food. For a conservative, stating a truth they don’t want to hear is the boot of oppression.

They’ve really had to reach for this one. Probably the main reason for running it is an excuse to talk about and show tits, which they’re way too uptight to just be honest about wanting to talk about and see.

I could agree that it’s not much of a news story, but beyond that…Chavez didn’t outlaw implants or threaten the doctors who perform them or anyone who promotes having them done. He just said it’s not the best use of money by poor women.

It’s the equivalent of when the Obamas state some sort of opinion that obesity’s not a good thing, and all of them fly off the handle because “ZOMG Obama’s taking away our right to eat at McDonald’s!” and obsess on it for years to come.

I never understood quite what that was about either, but if you can explain that one to me, I suspect you’ll understand what’s going on here.

For a conservative, stating a truth they don’t want to hear is the boot of oppression.

Oh. There we go.

(That last italics quote should’ve included the Obama food Nazi thing).

Heck, tsam, you’ve been threatening to slaughter bankers for weeks now and nobody’s turned up to concern troll you about it. If “Dennis” is surprised, he hasn’t been paying attention.

I expect a certain minimum standard of performance from a troll, and “Dennis” just isn’t up to par. It should at least know the traditions of the blog before crawling from the sewer.

You can have my boobs when you pry them from my cold dead hands!

You can have my your boobs when you pry them from my cold dead hands!

Fricaseed for I am 12 years old, apparently…

Obama Might Pull Out!

Fuckin’ rookie.

““Chavez hates GW Bush” and “Chavez thinks too many women are wasting money on implants” certainly sound like they are.”

So Chavez hates big boobs and also breast implants? Yeah, totally different.

(Honey, ouch, dammit, its a joke, ow, ow I don’t even know her name! Oh fuck, was that the wrong thing to say…HOOONNNEEEEEYYYYYYY!)

@LC;

APPARENTLY Dennis doesn’t realize that bombast and righteous rage are what I do.

Tigris beat me to it.

And gosh, it sure was great to see an article by DICK Morris appear on my Google News page. Him a bad man.

@tsam,

How in the hell does that idiot even know how to work, a keyboard, unless the keys are shaped like hooker toes.

Romney winning the drivers seat in that GOP klown kar is merely the stupidest thing in that article…

Hey Jennifer, you probably shouldn’t spend your energy trying to peer inside the mind of the media concern troll. You could end up getting hit in the face with POOP.

Stick with fascination with boobs. Among all straight men, this is a common trait.

Perhaps tsam, you should have threatened to cancel Dennis’ health insurance and then screamed “Let him die!” instead.

Excessive comma. Holy dammit, I have become dennis.

Kill me now. (but only if I have become dennis, eater of krispy kremes…)

How in the hell does that idiot even know how to work, a keyboard, unless the keys are shaped like hooker toes.

HA! Well, he does talk to Hannity and O’Reilly a great deal. Maybe they all have hooker-toe keyboards and cabana-boy penis mice made at the same custom shop?

Perhaps tsam, you should have threatened to cancel Dennis’ health insurance and then screamed “Let him die!” instead.

Someday I’ll figure out what is acceptable bloodlust and what is not.

“And gosh, it sure was great to see an article by DICK Morris appear on my Google News page. ”

A Dick talks about pulling out early. Really original stuff you got there Morris.

Dennis haz a SAD cuz no other concern trolls got his back. Why don’t you cry about it?

Also, like almost all rightwingers, he seems to have a very poor grasp of the idea of consensual sex.

he seems to have a very poor grasp of the idea of consensual sex.

VINCE FOSTER WAS RAPED

I also find the wingnut fascination with teh Clenis’ tryst the ultimate hipocrisy. After all, it was the wingnuts who fought to make sure women stayed in subservient positions in the workplace so that bosses could continue to have less than consensual sex with them. Carrots and sticks make good motivators, and when they took those tools away, there was epic howling from the bosses who would no longer get that sweet sweet secretary lovin’.

Open letter to Dick Morris

I have $10k for your favorite charity (presumably you) for the next 10 mins if you privately get your “Democratic source” to call me and confirm that little nuggety nugget. The only democratic strategist stupid enough to say something like that is Bob Shrum, or, once upon a time, an idealistic young Clinton staffer named Richard Morris – ohhh, you sly dog, you.

I’m SO glad I’m unable to finish a thought.

The conclusion of this tsam nonsense is this:

Chasing the secretary around the desk is a time honored tradition among the old guard. They should have given teh Clenis a pat on the back and another cigar. Or asked for a huff off THE cigar.

Perhaps Morris was touched inappropriately by teh Clenis.

Hi, little boy Dennis. Do you want a salted nut roll? My van is right down there by the river. C’mon, it’ll be okay, this is a secret, just you ‘n me.

Perhaps Morris was touched inappropriately by teh Clenis.

Dennis certainly was.

Nym fail. Should have been “Dennis’s High School Guidance Counselor”.

Still reading my posts, I see.

Concern troll is WICKED concerned. He’s gone beyond conventional concern.

Denny,

Death threats are useless with you. To judge by the usual quality of your posts you died about a day after Leave It To Dennis’s Mom’s Beaver got canceled. The only thing keeping you typing is Donalde’s hand up your rectum, in eternal gratitude for the Cleveland Steamer you gave him in the break between classes at Michael Weiner Savage’s Herbology and Hate seminar.

So, how about it. You still want the salted nut roll?

‘s got sprinkles….

Jesus, Dennis, zip up and respond!

so, tsam? really? you can reach through the intertubes? that’s amazing! wanna play cards or something, you bombastic son of a gun? also, too i could use a hand, here as i am on a cleaning and baking binge and hubbkf is out fishing…

Oh good. Dennis has finally given up pretending he’s concerned and has revealed himself as an out and out troll.

Here’s the interesting part: he’s scolded us repeatedly for escalating, and taking things too seriously, yet that’s EXACTLY he’s doing right now. Unless he’s actually afraid tsam will slit his throat…otherwise he’s just being disingenuous as hell.

Unless he’s actually afraid tsam will slit his throat…

Well, c’mon, who wouldn’t be?

For Dennis

“Well, c’mon, who wouldn’t be?”

I know you’re being facetious, but, seriously, anyone who knows him at all. You’d be hard-pressed to find someone with a bigger heart.

And now that I’ve embarrassed him thoroughly, I’m off!

Stay terrified, my friends.

Nah, vs, he’s just being an asshole. But a concerned asshole.

I guess that answers my previous question, though.

I am, however, amused that he thinks something paleo said somehow implies an answer to his inane question regarding Dave Neiwert.

Heh.

You’d be hard-pressed to find someone with a bigger heart.

VS! I’M TRYING TO SCARE THE TROLL! GOSH!

Dennis, you suck at life.

Dennibob,

Speaking of not answering….

Ummm, nut-roll?

C’mon, you’ll need it to patch the hole in your throat, you know, the thought that keeps you up at night?

And sprinkles?

Wow, tsam, you really got under his skin with that eliminationist rhetoric.

Of course, vs got under his skin with her non-Dennis approved behavior. Tee Hee.

Now if someone in the comments section of a blog that tintin had decided to highlight for derision had written to a liberal loon that if he said anything he was going to slit his fucking throat,

Oh yeah. THAT’S never happened.

I LIKE PENIS

I MADE A POOPY

I CAN COUNT TO POTATO

Dennis, you suck at life.

That’s not all he sucks.

vs, I watched part of that Zombie Women movie last night. Ouch.

The one after it, though “AAAAAAAHHHHH! ZOMBIES!” is good fun.

But in the end, watching The Grudge again was better.

Hey, I have the rights to that name, you know.

thudner is the only one around here who has a trademarked name.

I MADE ANUTHER POOPY

I ATE ALL THE CHEETOS

Dennis, I find your persistence and focused attention flattering.

I also find your insincerity and condescension quite fetching.

Whadaya say you and I get butt naked and fuck?

Wanna see my goatse?

MY CATS BUTT TASTES LIKE BUTT

ONLY HAIRYER

I watched Big Fish last night. Add it to the column of good Tim Burton films if you are capable of ignoring god-awful accents.

Dennis – You apologized to a RED?

You’re out, OUT, I tell you!

(If’n you nail that sweet tsam, you goddam hillbilly, and bring some o those photomagraphy thingys, we’ll talk.)

This place needs better trolls. I must write a sternly worded letter to the manager of this blog about this persistent problem.

I GOT MY PEENOR CAUGHT IN A COKE BOTTLE

I agree, gocart. I can’t even get Dennis to fuck me.

This place needs better trolls. I must write a sternly worded letter to the manager of this blog about this persistent problem.

You think THESE are bad? You should see the ones Manboobz gets.

Just as stupid, and longwinded too.

Big Fish was pretty cool. Hope you included Ed Wood in that list.

This place needs better trolls.

I know, you expect a thorn in the side but only get a little prick.

Post the digits, Dennis, and I’ll send you my goatse.

Yes, Ed Wood was on my list. I also thought Corpse Bride was sweet and charming, but opinions here differed.

Whadaya say you and I get butt naked and fuck?

I’d buy that for a dollar!

ILL WASH IT AS LONG AND AS OFTEN AS I WANT, MOM

“I remember you from somewhere else, gogurt. ” [Awesome pun dude!]

I GOT MY PEENOR CAUGHT IN A COKE BOTTLE

Well that made me laugh. Glass or plastic? You’d think the glass ones would be a nice experience.

The goal should be to get people to where they feel better about themselves without spending thousands going under the knife

I agree with you, and I’m not going to bother giving the source article traffic so there might be a wrinkle to this story making your position sufficient.

But.

The industry and certainly advertising in the media – along with the media itself – has always been happy to depict the basic logic of plastic surgery as creating a new and better you. Unfortunately, the reality is that plastic surgery is voluntarized to a degree that doesn’t correspond to reality.

Breast augmentation is a good example. In the US at least (I’m not sure about the rest of the world), it’s difficult to find a situation in which it is covered by insurance, because of intense media bombardment with the idea of elective breast surgery producing a situation in which people are encouraged to throw immense amounts of money at self-‘improvement’.

There are situations in which breast augmentation is psychologically imperative, or at least extremely favorable – it’s a part of the body and trauma or disease can potentially cause drastic, immediate changes to the body. So can the natural course of life – my mother had an augmentation done after six solid years of breast-feeding basically obliterated her breasts.

You can get used to suddenly having a part of you gone, or unrecognizable, especially a part that society considers important. But society shouldn’t foist that decision on the individual if there are other options. (And this isn’t some kind of boo-statism thing – private insurance is way more oppressive about the kinds of choices it wants you to make or avoid.)

We think of this procedure in terms of women wanting to have big tits for sexy reasons, and it’s not like I’m against that, but the Origenian contempt for Teh Flesh that suggests cosmetic surgery is intrinsically vain and unjustifiable is cruel and ridiculous.

(And that’s not even getting into cases where the issue is less bodily integrity and more gender integrity – which, because a sack of saline is a sack of saline, are also treated as fully elective.)

Sorry, it’s just that I’m as down on implants-for-implants’s-sake as anyone but I think people tend to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to elective surgery and God knows the industry isn’t exactly looking to help.

“Oh, Paula, I know you’ve been jonesing for me for a while now so thank you for consenting to having sex with me by walking in this hotel room here that my trooper was so nice to have escorted you to. Hey, by the way, what do you think of this bad boy?”

Twenty years, and 9/11, may have passed, but nothing will stop the Clenis.

Boring troll is boring.

Here is some very interesting science news.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/science/23speed.html?_r=1&hp
The physics world is abuzz with news that a group of European physicists plans to announce Friday that it has clocked a burst of subatomic particles known as neutrinos breaking the cosmic speed limit — the speed of light —
. . .

According to scientists familiar with the paper, the neutrinos raced from a particle accelerator at CERN outside Geneva, where they were created, to a cavern underneath Gran Sasso in Italy, a distance of about 450 miles, about 60 nanoseconds faster than it would take a light beam. That amounts to a speed greater than light by about 0.0025 percent (2.5 parts in a hundred thousand).

Even this small deviation would open up the possibility of time travel and play havoc with longstanding notions of cause and effect. Einstein himself — the author of modern physics, whose theory of relativity established the speed of light as the ultimate limit — said that if you could send a message faster than light, “You could send a telegram to the past.”

Alvaro de Rujula, a theorist at CERN, called the claim “flabbergasting.”

“If it is true, then we truly haven’t understood anything about anything,” he said, adding: “It looks too big to be true. The correct attitude is to ask oneself what went wrong.”

Ed Wood is frustrating. On one hand, it’s a good movie – a great movie, even. On the other, it illustrates that Johnny Depp can play a character besides Tim Burton’s Precious Goth Boy, but either chooses not to or is not allowed to.

If anything, that makes him worse.

Also you should probably stop paying attention to the neutrino story unless they come up with a model to explain what’s happening, because it’s not the first time we’ve apparently observed transrelativistic speeds and likely won’t be the last, either.

And if the neutrinos are going beyond c, well, there’s an additional problem: we don’t know what they are. There are two major and several minor competing models for what neutrinos actually are, as physical particles. We know how they happen, and to a lesser extent what they do, but not what they are when they aren’t molesting atoms in a peroxide bath.

The possibility that they appear to travel at speeds beyond c is likely to be way more productive than the possibility that they do – because they’re one of the richest areas of empirical study in theoretical physics at present and them being non-obedient to special relativity makes our observations of them a lot less useful.

This place needs better trolls. I must write a sternly worded letter to the manager of this blog about this persistent problem.

You say that, but I don’t really miss Troofy. Too hysterical.

I’m stepping up to condemn tsam’s thoughtless comment about Dennis. Tsam, don’t you know Soros pays double when it looks like suicide or an accident?

Tsam, don’t you know Soros pays double when it looks like suicide or an accident?

Triple if you can get wetsuits and dildos involved.

I GOT MY PEENOR CAUGHT IN A COKE BOTTLE

Acquittal is not enough for Roscoe Arbuckle. We feel that a great injustice has been done him… there was not the slightest proof adduced to connect him in any way with the commission of a crime. He was manly throughout the case and told a straightforward story which we all believe. We wish him success and hope that the American people will take the judgement of fourteen men and women that Roscoe Arbuckle is entirely innocent and free from all blame.

Triple if you can get wetsuits and dildos involved.

Dennis is all about the buttplug.

Tsam, don’t you know Soros pays double when it looks like suicide or an accident?

All part of the plan, my friend. That’s why I’m luring him in with the GOATSE.

You’re taking one for the team, dude.

Some of us called bullshit on the insistent tranny name-calling, but you know, hive mind.

Really. If the left’s greatest product is circular firing squads, you need the people with itchy trigger fingers.

I was just thinking last night that “The Breast Implants of Tiresias” would be a good name for an updated version of Apollinaire’s surrealist play.
Yes, I was at the pub at the time.

Um, not to defend the MSM running straight into the toilet and their various abandonment of actual issues to either chase right-wing memes or right-wing techniques to “grab eyeballs”, but isn’t the whole “slap a pair of tits up there and tsk tsk about morality, like the major fucking shtick of every one of Murdoch’s news outlets.

Olbermann before the powers that be found the excuse they needed to shitcan him would occasionally point out how Fox News would “just happen” to need to cover stories where they interviewed a lot of scantily clad women wearing bikinis or have a still shot of a pair of adult entertainment stripper breasts every five fucking seconds. And that’s before we get into the vat-grown news bimbos or the shit he gets away with in the UK.

Just saying that if you want to get on one’s moral high horse about news stations using sex and sexy to straight men imagery to “sell themselves” then you really can’t be a Fox Junkie wingnut.

You should hear me chide those porn websites on my marathon porn engagements. That stuff is TERRIBLE. I watch and watch and watch and it’s all sex and boobs and penis.

Um, not to defend the MSM running straight into the toilet and their various abandonment of actual issues to either chase right-wing memes or right-wing techniques to “grab eyeballs”, but isn’t the whole “slap a pair of tits up there and tsk tsk about morality, like the major fucking shtick of every one of Murdoch’s news outlets.

Sandra is excited about the news of Saddam Hussein’s capture in Tikrit. See page 3.

There is P0RN on the Interwebs??
Why was I not previously informed?

Sandra is excited
My goodness, she could put someone’s eye out.

vat-grown news bimbos or the shit he gets away with in the UK.

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT YOU CARE ABOUT, DO NOT GOOGLE IMAGES FOR “GRETCHEN CARLSON UPSKIRT”.

…unless you have a LOT of time on your hands.

…ummm, so I hear.

Really. If the left’s greatest product is circular firing squads, you need the people with itchy trigger fingers.

Have I finally destroyed the fragile alliance holding together the Soviet and independent forces in Catalonia? Woe! Woe on us all!

how Fox News would “just happen” to need to cover stories where they interviewed a lot of scantily clad women wearing bikinis

Once Bozell loudly condemned ABC for liking Seth McFarlane.

I know I’m late to the party, but wanted to address this from Chris way up thread:

It’s the equivalent of when the Obamas state some sort of opinion that obesity’s not a good thing, and all of them fly off the handle because “ZOMG Obama’s taking away our right to eat at McDonald’s!” and obsess on it for years to come.

I never understood quite what that was about either, but if you can explain that one to me, I suspect you’ll understand what’s going on here.

I think it has to do with guilt. Wingnuts believe that someone criticizing them or noting that behavior is seen as an attack. And that’s because they are attacking themselves. Or rather, they know that hating others because of skin color, sexuality, gender, etc… is wrong, that it doesn’t do them any favors to try and destroy the environment to make hippies cry, or engage in all the self-destructive behaviors they do to be “in the right tribe” and safe. On some level they know this, but their cognitive dissonance and investment means they can’t acknowledge that.

When a liberal notes the obvious, it shoots up all of that internalized self-critique and in order to squash it down, many personality types will squash it down, get defensive, reimagine the statement as some kind of attack and project and attack against the “transgressor”.

By that route, you get mild rebuke = OPPRESSION!

Well, that and they are trying to deliberately make minority groups explaining real oppression look like whiners by whining about nonexistent problems as if they were death row.

Thanks to the all-mighty “both sides do it” formula, people see the right-winger bitching about nothing and assume that the feminists, black people, gays, and so on are similarly bitching about fictional issues to “get something” from the only real people. This allows people to safely stay in their own privilege and not grow.

Wait.

There’s a Boob Tuba?

What does THAT sound like?

lower you pants and begin working your shaft as my hands move slowly up your buttoned down shirt. I tell you how much I hate actor to and how insightful your classes are with all the blog posts of scantily clad women and how evil sexual harassment suits are. I ask you to sexually harass me down there, as we both cry OBAMA SOCIALISM iS EVIL.

cerberus: I suspect part of it is also that it makes them feel important. They are being oppressed, therefore their feelings are valid and their lives are noble.

This isn’t limited to wingnuts – in fact, if I had to attribute it to any specific group it’d be Internet people – but the more extreme ones definitely spend a lot of time trying to give their lives meaning by pretending that the Salvation Army Santa ringing that damn bell is exactly the same as the expropriation of Jewish property under the Nazis.

It must baffle them nobody offers to go back in time and kill Santa Claus right after he got out of prison.

Wait.

There’s a Boob Tuba?

What does THAT sound like?

Surprisingly like a butt tuba. You know how evo psych is.

There’s a Boob Tuba?
What does THAT sound like?

Rather like a motorboat, or so I hear from a friend.

Damnitt! Wrong screen.

Um, um, tsam is a fag. vs is a terrible mother. actor is a stalker.

Oh god. How do I delete a comment on this blog. Fuck, tintin is in on it, and they are all tintin, why does this keep happening to me?

I just want someone to love me.

Hell. Wrong screen again.

alec-

Oh yeah, that’s a big part of it. It’s a big uncaring universe out there and the American system of “fuck you, you’re on your own” makes it seem even larger and even more uncaring. And there is all manner of dangerous psychological predators who are willing to sell a toxic ideology that will claim to make you feel important.

Most obvious case would be the Rapturists who will be the ones who won’t have to wait until they die to get their confirmation that they didn’t waste their lives on a God that doesn’t exists, who will be the last citizens of a doomed planet, specially chosen to drain the last of its resources and for whom nothing will outlive them.

You can’t get more important than that without being a God yourself.

Uh-oh.

Dennis has spent too much time at Sadly, no, and has caught sanity.

FABULOUS FAG TO YOU, BITCH.

Oh yeah, that’s a big part of it. It’s a big uncaring universe out there and the American system of “fuck you, you’re on your own” makes it seem even larger and even more uncaring.

If you’ve never seen The Trap: What Happened To Our Dream of Freedom, you owe it to yourself to pirate it.

(Curtis is big on the idea of unofficial transmission, so it’s not even some kind of art crime.)

We are all Dennis now.

“what they are when they aren’t molesting atoms in a peroxide bath.”

PERVERT!

OT, from a friend’s facebook wall:

Obama is NOT a brown skinned socialist who gives away free healthcare. You’re thinking of Jesus.

Doubly awesome because the guy who posted it was one of the leaders at my alma mater’s evangelical community. Funny thing about them: I didn’t care much for the rank-and-file, but I liked and respected a lot of the student leadership. That’s the evangelicals… the Catholics were exactly the other way around.

I miss Bruce.

zrm-

Also, like almost all rightwingers, he seems to have a very poor grasp of the idea of consensual sex.

Yeah, that crops up all the time. And personally I love how he tried to defend this accusation by describing consensual (though socially improper) behavior.

And it goes beyond simply not caring about consent as an important issue in sexuality, but rather a complete failure to understand what it means. The troll tried to mock consent, but failing any comprehension of what it is or what it adds to sex, it just ended up being used as a sort of code word for illicit.

And it comes down to them having fucked up lines for what is “good sex” and “bad sex”. In short, all sex is bad unless it is with a married partner for the purposes of procreation and thus all bad sex is equally bad. So someone raping another person is as bad as someone being gay or someone cheating on their wife or a teen giving a blowjob to her boyfriend or someone just fucking because it feels good.

And this framework is probably about 90% of what we know as the rape culture, because so much of our culture is about this “all sex is bad” angle rather than noting the lines between good sex and bad is always consent between the parties (which doesn’t mean that choosing good sex can’t be bad in about seven other ways depending on the choice (such as the choice to cheat on a romantic partner)).

But yeah, it’s amazing how the right-wingners in their complete ignorance of consent also never seem to notice or think it worthy of notice how fucking HORRIFYING this makes them socially. I mean, these are people who think a consensual blowjob is the same as a violent rape. I weep for their romantic partners and I would be extremely nervous interacting with them in public. Espcially when you combine that with their “short skirts deserve to be raped” beliefs.

I know I’m late to the party, but wanted to address this from Chris way up thread:

In fairness, Jennifer raised it before me.

I think it has to do with guilt. Wingnuts believe that someone criticizing them or noting that behavior is seen as an attack. And that’s because they are attacking themselves. Or rather, they know that hating others because of skin color, sexuality, gender, etc… is wrong, that it doesn’t do them any favors to try and destroy the environment to make hippies cry, or engage in all the self-destructive behaviors they do to be “in the right tribe” and safe. On some level they know this, but their cognitive dissonance and investment means they can’t acknowledge that.

When a liberal notes the obvious, it shoots up all of that internalized self-critique and in order to squash it down, many personality types will squash it down, get defensive, reimagine the statement as some kind of attack and project and attack against the “transgressor”.

The guilty flee where no man pursueth.

Yeah, I think subconscious guilt is a motivator for a lot of them. Guilt combined with pride, of the “there’s something wrong with me, but I can’t admit that there’s anything wrong, it’s a sign of weakness – so FUCK all these people who think otherwise!” variety.

Came out in droves in their outrage at Obama’s “apology.” To them, that’s showing weakness (I read as much in the wingnut websites back when I was still poking and prodding).

“vs, I watched part of that Zombie Women movie last night. Ouch.

The one after it, though “AAAAAAAHHHHH! ZOMBIES!” is good fun.”

Chiller must
Be doing some kind of zombie marathon. There was a zombie movie on while iwas getting ready to leave.

Espcially when you combine that with their “short skirts deserve to be raped” beliefs.

Vince Foster was asking for it dressed like that in public.

So before we became the all-Dennis channel, we used to dive for mangos. Damnitt, let’s jump into that slime.

But first the mango already retrieved:

Also, it’s interesting to note how people, especially “news people” hypocritically portray things like boob enhancement and “gender reassignment,” also know as transgenderism. Women enlarge their boobs to conform to the pressure of society so it is not acceptable, and even detrimental to the mental health of women, says many people, but undergoing a sex-change operation is not only acceptable, it’s considered advisable for the mental health of transgendered people! If that’s not a clear cut example of hypocrisy, then I don’t know what is!

There are not enough fuck yous in the world.

And yeah bbkf and vs note the serious answer to this.

But I’ll also note that he at least retains the ability to copy the reason it is different, rather faithfully in fact. One is mass of social pressure to engage in the activity, health be damned in a way that often leads to detrimental mental health and physical health problems. The other fights against a mass of social pressure to never engage in the activity, health be damned and is a means of easing debilitating mental health problems.

Fuck, if we remove the chance to go all “trannies are deluded fags getting special rights” from his piece and instead phrased it:

Women enlarge their boobs to conform to the pressure of society so it is not acceptable, and even detrimental to the mental health of women, says many people, but undergoing a breast reconstruction is not only acceptable, it’s considered advisable for the mental health of breast cancer survivors! If that’s not a clear cut example of hypocrisy, then I don’t know what is!

Then it becomes more obvious.

Which leads to the point. It is only parse-able if you buy into their stereotyped arguments that there is something wrong with transgender people. Hell, even then, the point still doesn’t make any sense unless you throw in some nutjob conspiracy theory about people being encouraged to have poorly thought out transitions and frankly, I only usually ever hear that conspiracy theory from the occasional gay male or lesbian whackaloon.

So really, it’s just there to throw in a nice reminder that the right-wing doesn’t view transgender people as fully human. Not that we needed the reminder.

Also love how everything transgender needs to be in constant scare quotes.

They undergo “gender reassignment surgery” after going to “therapy” for a number of “years”, wherein they might also take “hormones”. Sometimes after such sessions they would go to the “store” and buy some “milk” for their morning “cereal” and are you scared and disgusted yet, please say yes, we need a new scare target now that people are starting to accept gay people and the muslim hate is a little whistling through the graveyards after Breivik.

Speaking as a member of that, let me just say:

Oh joy.

There was a zombie movie on while iwas getting ready to leave.

DON’T LEAVE, VS! THE ZOMBIES ARE OUTSIDE THE HOUSE!!

The thing that gets me is that every poll I’ve ever read said that, paradoxically, there’s way less of a constituency for active transphobia than anything else in the GLBT field. It’s not a fundamentally challenging concept.

The people who write hateful little diatribes on the subject either see themselves as participating in some kind of culture war or are genuinely deranged. Even polls basically selecting for wingnuts show little constituency for their hateful views and no traction for their attempts to wedge the issue in.

My jaundiced personal view is that the tiny little rogues’ gallery of trans-haters on the Newscorp payroll and in the wingnut blogosphere are fucked-up little hawks, because that tends to be the way of the world. You write an essay-length diatribe against the fascist tyranny of taut young twinks and I’m going to have certain expectations of your browser history is all I’m saying.

Chiller must
Be doing some kind of zombie marathon

That’ll sell some penis pumps.

That’ll sell some penis pumps.

In 6 to 8 weeks, I’ll be penis pumping non stop.

“DON’T LEAVE, VS! THE ZOMBIES ARE OUTSIDE THE HOUSE!!”

It’s you again, isn’t it?

It’s you again, isn’t it?

he wouldn’t tell you if he was outside. That would be poor zombie strategy.

I do have to say that the boobs on the first interview subject are TERRIBLE. Did she REALLLLLLY need that much? Really?

Now let’s GET READY FOR MAAAAAANNNNNGGGGOOOOS!

First let’s talk liberal media:

Reporter Matt Gutman explained, “Five years ago yesterday, he called President George W Bush the devil in an appearance at the United Nations. But now [Hugo] Chavez has managed to say something that’s got him in real hot water on his own turf, in his own country.”

This would be what the original reporter said, not the right-wing hack. And yes, apparently calling Bush a mean name when Bush was at the time a)trying to destroy and bypass the UN on behalf of his Rapturist base, b) had just invaded a country on trumped-up charges to enrich his vice president’s companies, killing and torturing many in the process, and c) Had been calling for help in his “campaign against evil” including defeating the “Axis of Evil” and secretly having his generals try and jump up excitement for the new holy war in the middle east. So yeah, if you’re going to fault one politician for calling someone a bad name, you’re going to have to cite the same.

And that’s before we note that we’ve been calling Chavez the devil for a long long time now simply because he refused to let American countries exploit his country anymore. Whereas Bush called for the torture, indefinite detention, and outright slaughter of thousands, possibly millions.

So yeah, one has a better case than the other, is all I’m saying.

Plus, “liberal media”!

The journalist did manage to refer to Chavez as “socialist,” but clearly seemed more interested in cleavage than Chavez’s repressive government. One wonders what Ted Koppel would think?

I’m not saying that Jew Ted Koppel and his jewish liberal media are teaming up with Cold War Socialists to bring back the Soviet Union so we can go down in nuclear war like we so desperately wanted to, but damnitt, I need it so bad, why can’t there be a conspiracy between things I deem liberal and a great existential evil so I can relive my Joe McCathy fanfic?

Also, the post rants about evil socialist Chavez being a bad man for noting that breast implants are a bad idea in a country that still suffers from endemic poverty and which is still awash in unfortunate cultural messages about beauty, but that’s not good enough because it didn’t make up shit about how his regime is repressive (despite being very well received and genuinely concerned with the welfare of its people) because it is mean to American businesses and thus is blocking the only FREEDOM that matters, that is the right of Americans to exploit the shit out of poor countries, especially in latin America.

Oh, also this quote from the LIBERAL MEDIA:

GUTMAN: And then, earlier this year, out of the blue, the country’s socialist president staked a claim against breast implants. The self-proclaimed feminist president criticized poor women who bought costly breast implants they couldn’t nearly afford. But he saved his special venom for doctors he claims rake in cash by convincing women that if they don’t have big bosoms, they’re not beautiful. Do you think that the president should be telling people what to do with their money?

OH MY GOD, surely it is HIM who is the devil. A politician gave an opinion on a social issue and openly criticized people who get rich exploiting social ills. Will his unfettered hatred for capitalism never cease. WHY MUST HE OPPRESS HONEST CORPORATIONS SO?!?

Also wonder how all these fuckers square the whole “he must have eliminated capitalism” with the fact that these capitalist businesses which are noted to be exploitative and problematic are nonetheless allowed to operate in complete freedom, only earning verbal rebuke from the president.

Yeah, the 80s called, they want their Cold War shtick back, because trying to fluff up Chavez into the next Castro just makes it look pathetic. It’s almost as bad as trying to make Scandanavia look like a miserable hellhole (well, you might be able to argue it by just noting that it gets nothing but grey skies for 6-9 months out of the year).

Oh and the interviews are great.

The answer to whether the president should be allowed to express an opinion is:

I don’t think so. Everyone is free. We have a free country.

And as for whether Chavez has a point do they interview any psychologists or people who had them in their 20s? Nope, they ask two random 20-somethings who just so happen to love their implants, why it’s almost like they specifically sought out women who would say that and especially women who would be in the midst of self-justifying a potentially bankrupting decision. I mean, what were they going to say? “No, this decision I had less than a year ago which cost more than I make in a year was a really stupid decision. Let me just say that on TV.”

Oh, but they do have to interview some stupid presidential spokesperson:

EVA GOLINGER (presidential adviser): There’s actually commercials on television from pharmacies that are offering a type of credit card that’s just for financing breast implants.

Pshaw, bitch. Like that’s predatory. Why do you socialists hate the Free Market, holy be its name?

And we complete with two more random fuckwad pedestrians:

GUTMAN: Still, Venezuelan women do not want their president telling them how to spend their money. Did you hear that President Chavez, a few weeks ago, came out and said, enough with this madness about plastic surgery?

PEDESTRIAN (Female– through a translator): No, I didn’t hear. But it’s a silly thing. It’s a personal choice.

GUTMAN: Everybody and everybody has their own theories.

GONZALEZ: He’s crazy. I mean – I think he needs to get a woman or something, yeah. I mean, I think he’s frustrated or something, I don’t know.

I know right. You start respecting women and you might as well chop off your balls you are so unmanly and gay. I mean, the only reason to be concerned about filthy women bits is if you are desperate, am I right fellas? And we made sure we found someone to repeat our whole “socialism is against personal freedom” angle we are pushing like a drug dealer at an elementary school.

I mean, why reporting the news with “facts” and a semblance of understanding of the subject when we can continue to try and push the narrative that anyone who ever tries to stand up to the free market might as well be Stalin himself shooting people in the head whenever he mildly rebukes problematic structures?

And remember, LIBERAL MEDIA!

In a real socialist society, all women would get augmentations at age 12. FOR FREE.

Oh, and you would think that if Msr. Whitlock thought that there was important oppression going on with Chavez at the moment that he’d have something to cite. Sort of a “why isn’t he focusing on X” thing where X is some made-up bullshit that Drudge is faxing around.

If you thought that, you’re an idiot.

Chavez is a socialist and damnit they didn’t spend the 50s-80s carefully blacklisting, alienating, investigating, and demonizing anyone left of Richard Nixon to have that term serve as anything else than a shortcut to the hindbrain and an instant response of “grr, bad, capitalism good, why don’t you go back to Russia”.

Explain why Chavez was more repressive than the Bush regime, my word, you liberals, it’s like you are actively resisting the propaganda and want to think for yourself or something.

Also, I’ll note to all the networks, the right will never respect you. You can deliver this, a complete propaganda piece about how Chavez is the devil who wants to take away your Latin Heat porn fantasies and sex tourism and the right will still whine that it only called him Hitler 8 times rather than 12 and this is proof that you’re working with them.

You will never fucking please them so grow some fucking ovaries and report the fucking news for once in your miserable lives.

Or just die your ignoble death. I mean, all you seem to be good for anymore is misinforming people, so we’d actually be better off with no news than your news.

In a real socialist society, all women would get augmentations at age 12. FOR FREE.

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BREAST IMPLANTS ARE THEFT!!!!

You knew that was coming.

Also I love how “OPPRESSION!” for our corporate persons works about the same as it does our over-privileged right-wingers.

A president mildly rebuking something in a completely legally non-binding way is totally an all out assault on freedom, especially the freedom of the market. Just like having people stare at you in disbelief when you say n****er while black rappers use the word, which is of course the same as surviving the holocaust, having everyone of your sex or race viewed as legal property or the social fallout of that, being beaten or attacked for trying to use public facilities, and being prevented from marrying the person you love because someone’s grandma cares about your sex life and wants to insert herself into it (oh my).

On the list of devices I would love to invent would be something to give people a tiny taste of what it’s like to be an oppressed minority in this country. Just a single day, doesn’t have to be intensive, but just something to fully make them conscious of how pathetic their penny-ante bullshit really is.

Aw, the president said, hey, watch your money and remember this is cultural messaging, that is totally the same as a majority of the politicians and people in your country not fully viewing you as a person and honestly debating whether or not it’d be a crime to kill you.

being prevented from marrying the person you love because someone’s grandma cares about your sex life and wants to insert herself into it (oh my).

If inserting grandmas is outlawed only outlaws will do grandma insertions.

Oh shit. Dennis cried about my death threat. I TOTALLY forgot to accuse him of taking away my freedom of speech. SHIT. I suck at this.

Cerberus said,

[POOP ADVISORY] September 24, 2011 at 23:56 (kill)

to be fair, Cerb, the wingnuts have also been educed to working themselves into a frothy lather over Michelle Obama wearing borrowed jewelry to an event.

alec-

The thing that gets me is that every poll I’ve ever read said that, paradoxically, there’s way less of a constituency for active transphobia than anything else in the GLBT field. It’s not a fundamentally challenging concept.

Sadly, I expect that to change soon and not in a good way. All minority struggles seem to have the same arc.

You start unknown, but suffering all the passive oppression that comes from that. So you do visibility activism so that people know you exist and what your issue is. Once people start to acknowledge that, you start to get the blowback from people who didn’t want to know about that. Eventually, the issue is well-known enough that the right-wing starts to know about it in large ways and begins actively campaigning against “having it shoved in their face. This is the tipping point to active oppression. Then you end up fighting the active oppression and the attempts to demonize and continue to build support. Eventually you start to have enough support that the issue becomes “debated” and you can start imagining strong political victories for specific issues. This is when you are close to the famous “tipping point” where an issue is heavily fought in the news and eventually there are just more sane people than nutjobs and people start having to pretend that they are down with your humanity to not look like a bigot. Sadly, this means starting from scratch on related issues because the people “fine with you now” think they have “taken care of everything” and thus don’t have to think about you anymore and why are you bringing up all this shit that needs to change.

I think trans people are starting to get close if not beginning to cross that first turning point where people start acknowledging their existence and thus begin the more active resistance and demonization.

We’re seeing that especially more as the homophobes are realizing that the big turning point on gay issues may have already passed and need a new target to refresh their attacks and trans people are quite convenient for that.

“It’s you again, isn’t it?

he wouldn’t tell you if he was outside. That would be poor zombie strategy.”

You mean. zombies aren’t known for their long-term thinking? What about zombie architects?

I think I saw a sign calling for just that at Occupy Wall Street, tsam.

You’re such a creepy little liar.

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Ooh, can mine have a dinosaur job? Only they don’t have any relevant experience…

You mean. zombies aren’t known for their long-term thinking? What about zombie architects?

This is clearly an advanced, gifted zombie. I advise extreme caution.

I think I saw a sign calling for just that at Occupy Wall Street, tsam.

yeah, topless protests, how ludicrous.

If they wanted to be taken SERIOUSLY, they would be wearing tricorner hats and teabags.

You mean. zombies aren’t known for their long-term thinking? What about zombie architects?

Hmm, starting to get suspicious of the recommendation for an extra large cat flap installation.

On the list of devices I would love to invent would be something to give people a tiny taste of what it’s like to be an oppressed minority in this country. Just a single day, doesn’t have to be intensive, but just something to fully make them conscious of how pathetic their penny-ante bullshit really is.

Firehoses and vicious dogs are readily available.

Hmm, starting to get suspicious of the recommendation for an extra large cat flap installation.

Piffle. That’s a rookie move.

I usually just specify a duplicate master key from the hardware supplier.

Why are wingnuts always so focused on surfAce rather than substance? It’s the weirdest thing.

Why are wingnuts always so focused on surfAce rather than substance? It’s the weirdest thing.

They’re dumb, but not so dumb that they don’t know that going deeper than concern trolling about boobies on the television (while ignoring a disturbing amount of intense violence) will tear their contradictory and ridiculous beliefs to shreds.

Oh shit. Dennis cried about my death threat. I TOTALLY forgot to accuse him of taking away my freedom of speech. SHIT. I suck at this.

Call him gastarbeiter filth next time for style points.

Cerberus:

I think I should be clear that the polls don’t tell the whole story. There is now and has for at least my entire lifetime been a general reluctance to actively accept trans people as fully human – lots of institutionalized phobia and basically corrupt behavior and etc.

The key, I think, is that the idea that it’s a fundamentally illegitimate concept is rare and idiosyncratic. People will go out and say that gays are perverts, that they choose to engage in a perverse lifestyle and they’re recruiters and that they can and should be happy straight. That’s always going to be a significant viewpoint.

I can’t really explain exactly what the difference is. My guess would be this: it’s harder to imagine attraction being different than it is to imagine your own body being different. I don’t consider that a complete defect of empathy for trans people is possible – pretense to the contrary is a deliberate and malicious behavior and it has never sold well.

You might be able to get society to hate on the transgendered like they have other groups, but there’s a limit to how much it can be delegitimized. And while to some extent it’s a matter of understanding on a tactical level that it’s a non-starter for their dumb little culture wars, it’s worth noting that religious traditionalists have way less to say about trans issues than other queers.

I might be being overly optimistic about this. I sure hope not.

You have to shut out too much of the world for the idea that gender incongruity is a conspiracy/myth/perversion/etc to make any sense at all, and for what? As Christ said, the poor will always be with us. Much easier to pick on them instead.

the country’s socialist president staked a claim against breast implants

“Stake a claim against?” Bloody hell, reporter boy, way to take a hackneyed but meaningful prospecting-related metaphor and turn it into gibberish. Ugly verbal sloppiness is ugly and sloppy.

Sounds like there are many valid criticisms to be made of ABC News for Crimes Against Language, without bothering with the volume of their performance during the Two-Minute Hate.*

* Feel free to replace hackneyed Orwellian reference with “I didn’t hear a Harumph from that man!!”..

It must be nice not to actually believe anything and just be super mad at a vast constellation of enemies presumably conspiring in secret against you. Sticking to actual principles can be tricky and I wouldn’t recommend it for hobbyists.

You know there are studies that say conservatives are happier than liberals. Now I know some people take issue with this way of thinking…but I have no problem believing it. See, I I think it’s harder to be liberal.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Herman Cain beats Rick Perry’s ass in Florida straw poll.

“I think trans people are starting to get close if not beginning to cross that first turning point where people start acknowledging their existence “

Acknowledging our existence has never been the problem. It’s the getting fired, beat up or killed for existing that people object to.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Nice. Governor Goodhair is sinking like a stone. That’s just fucking awesome.

Good news… for John McCain!!

Herman Cain has no chance of winning, neither does Perry. Mittens and whatshisname, the ambassador guy, they scare me and I think could possibly win against Obama.

A nation wide campaign for prez featuring two black men would be surreal.

The annoying off-shoot of this is that Irk Irksome and the Red State Trike Force will take credit for this.

Mittens would seem to be the guy, unless Christie jumps in. Huntsman? Eh, I don’t know if has any momentum at all.

Mittens and whatshisname, the ambassador guy, they scare me and I think could possibly win against Obama.

Mittens, yes. Whathisname’s name is Huntsman, but what you called him is pretty much his campaign in a nutshell. No one knows him, no one gives a shit, and those few who do think he’s too liberal. Herman Cain’ll get the nomination before he does.

You know there are studies that say conservatives are happier than liberals. Now I know some people take issue with this way of thinking…but I have no problem believing it. See, I I think it’s harder to be liberal.

I agree. That “thinking for yourself” shit’ll send your blood pressure skyrocketing.

Tits on the t-rex is pretty awesome.

“I agree. That “thinking for yourself” shit’ll send your blood pressure skyrocketing.”

Plus,there’s the whole understanding nuance thing. It does make life more complicated. Sometimes you have to think about stuff. Especially if you don’t make all Your decisions based upon what the IPU says.

Tits on the t-rex

Avatar spoiler!

noen-

Pshaw, nothing compared to the horrible oppression that is having a person in authority mildly criticize a social problem. Why can’t us transfolk understand what real oppression is like?

Plus,there’s the whole understanding nuance thing. It does make life more complicated. Sometimes you have to think about stuff. Especially if you don’t make all Your decisions based upon what the IPU says.

That too.

I don’t think Romney has a snowball’s chance in hell, frankly – it was amusing to see the freepers mourn him as the Last Real True Conservative in 2008 in spite of his being more or less bog-standard as a New England Republican (and thus nationally radioactive), but this time around there are several candidate who sell way better as tea bag heroes, Rick Perry still included.

The main issue of this election is seriously that the early Republican states are states which are both overcompensating for historically liberal leanings and facing some of the lowest registration by new voters in decades. Even if we’re to accept that the 2010 reversals were partisan instead of either ideological or oppositionist, that hasn’t translated into changed registrations. To get in the door they have to think that Dubya was a Red, and however much the electorate might want to punish Obama they’re even more hostile to the GOP than they were starting out this election cycle, probably because of their baying for blood in a bid to stymy hypothetical liberals.

I’d put money on Bachmann before I’d put it on Mittens. The corporate media would have an easier time drafting Neil Bush than getting Romney through the tea baggers, especially now they’re hungry for flesh.

Mittens would seem to be the guy, unless Christie jumps in.

I can’t see folks turning out in droves to vote for Fat Bastard.

You know who’s a sleeper in the primary, the one to keep an eye on?

Rick Santorum.

Just Google his name! There’s a spreading pool of supporters, judging by the number of hits you get.

Just Google his name! There’s a spreading pool of supporters, judging by the number of hits you get.

Yep. Santorum is on the lips of every Young Republican.

than getting Romney through the tea baggers

Well, if you tried it by firing him out of a cannon, into a large crowd of them….

If Hermain Cain runs against Obama the Right will discover that Cain is the only true black man. Obama isn’t even black!!! I am not looking forward to that level of insanity.

Yep. Santorum is on the lips of every Young Republican.

Dammit. I knew there was an easy joke I was missing. If only that one would have dribbled out.

Now my reputation will be stained.

If Hermain Cain runs against Obama the Right will discover that Cain is the only true black man. Obama isn’t even black!!! I am not looking forward to that level of insanity.

Remember how pleased they were with themselves at the ‘historic’ selection of the “first” woman VP candidate?

I would laugh myself silly, well sillier, watching them try to pull that maneuver again….

I’d put money on Bachmann before I’d put it on Mittens. The corporate media would have an easier time drafting Neil Bush than getting Romney through the tea baggers, especially now they’re hungry for flesh.

I have to say at this point, I think Mittens gets it. Most of the teabaggers stay home or vote for protest candidates.

Of course, I thought T-Paw was a safe corporate-acceptable choice also, so my guesses are worth shit.

Of course, I thought T-Paw was a safe corporate-acceptable choice also, so my guesses are worth shit santorum.

Fixxored for moar thready consistency.

Santorum Moat.

I have to say at this point, I think Mittens gets it. Most of the teabaggers stay home or vote for protest candidates.

You’re underestimating how much they hate Obama and liberals, I think… Most of them’ll hold their nose and vote for him even if they aren’t fans, like they did for McCain.

Plus, no matter what they think of Mormons or New Englanders or RINOs, a lot of what they “think” is whatever Fox News or its online equivalents tell them to, and the minute any candidate gets the Republican nomination, that entire machine swings into motion on his behalf. That’ll do quite a bit to mitigate the “I don’t like either candidate” effect.

Fixxored for moar thready consistency.

If your Santorum is thready, you might consider changing your diet.

Plus, no matter what they think of Mormons or New Englanders or RINOs,

RomneyCare is going to make them all sick, though.

Perry is the logical conclusion of the direction the goops have been going. Crazy Shelly comes in a distant second. Perry is very adept at farting “Jesus” loudly out of one hole while publicly satisfying his corporate overlords with another. This is basically the recipe for success in the modern Republican party.

Will he get the nod? I don’t know. There’s plenty of time for anyone to self destruct.

Will he get the nod? I don’t know. There’s plenty of time for anyone to self destruct.

Seems like they are all racing to self-destruct at this point.

It’ll probably come down to whose money holds out the longest.

You’re underestimating how much they hate Obama and liberals, I think… Most of them’ll hold their nose and vote for him even if they aren’t fans, like they did for McCain.

Plus, no matter what they think of Mormons or New Englanders or RINOs, a lot of what they “think” is whatever Fox News or its online equivalents tell them to, and the minute any candidate gets the Republican nomination, that entire machine swings into motion on his behalf. That’ll do quite a bit to mitigate the “I don’t like either candidate” effect.

Oh no, I don’t doubt that even if Huntsman somehow won the nomination, presumably by some kind of mind control ray, that the teabaggers would vote for him as the embodiment of real true knee-britches-wearing conservatismisms and vote in lockstep for him against Obamar.

It’s just that they hold the balance of power in the party right now and there are enough quasi-viable teabagger candidates that it’s not going to be easy for even a corporate juggernaut like Mittens to make it through them alive.

Honestly, if I were more conspiratorial, I’d think that the sudden furore over Perry’s consistently terrible debate perforances was a tempest in a teapot in order to accomplish… something? That’s where it breaks down. But certainly, the fact that Perry is a muttering, useless idiot – like W before he got used to the debate walkie-talkie but all the time – is not news to any of the pissant money men who tried to pitch him as the Wall Street-friendly face of the bagger movement.

As it stands, I am less conspiratorial and more cynical, so I’m pretty sure that it only ends for Perry when and if Freedomworks abandons him, as disagreeing with them is punishable by exposure.

“BREAST IMPLANTS ARE THEFT!!!!”

Ideally, there should be a fair exchange, a tit for tat so to speak.

Perry is not doing as well in the primary as some baggers had hoped, I think. Mittshit has owned him in both debates, and had Batguano Crazy-Eyes Bachmann not fired Rollins, she might still be in this thing.

(Such a dumb move Sheley, unless you are looking at the Palin Train to fame and fortune and threaten to run for every open position in America now send me a check to rent a bus).

The baggers still don’t totally run the party – the big money boys still decide the presidency and it is an uphill primary battle once they turn on you. It’s not too late to see a Draft Christie of Jeb NOW! movement pop up.

“or” Jeb NOW!

Sorry…

I predict a brokered convention. Why? Because its fun. Look for Dick Cheney to win on the 16th ballot.

GC Mozart

Wasn’t that the big insider prediction for the Dems 2008 convention – a secret internal plan where superdelegates would turn for Clinton (of course, the source may have been Mark Dumbass Penn)?

I am sitting at the stove making pasta.

Mark Penn is a walking facepalm.

Dick Morris, OTOH, is just a sentient potato.

“Perry is not doing as well in the primary as some baggers had hoped”

I’m not sure they were ever totally behind him. Their one and only true lover has always been Ron Paul. There has been a conspiracy theory brewing that Perry is just another globalist/Illuminati sock puppet making the rounds of the crazy right.

Their one and only true lover has always been Ron Paul.

Oh I dunno, lots of folks have been prying money out of them. I don’t think Ron Paul tops the list at all.

Santorum is on the lips of every Young Republican.

Larf? I thought I’d pee my pants!

Tits on the t-rex is pretty awesome.

That would explain those tiny arms, just big enough to provide “support”.

I am sitting at the stove making pasta.

It turned out really well.

THANKS FOR ASKING.

Santorum? I barely knew ‘im!

Their one and only true lover has always been Ron Paul.

Oh I dunno, lots of folks have been prying money out of them. I don’t think Ron Paul tops the list at all.

Concur.

They love his social and economic views, but they don’t like what they call his “blame America first” foreign policy.

They love his social and economic views, but they don’t like what they call his “blame America first” foreign policy.

Yeah, I’ve always thought it was sweetly naive that some folks on the left thought that the Right had this romantic boner for Paul. Yes, he’s a kooky libertarian who does not have the true Randian stance on abortion (pssst: she would be for it), but he’s also an isolationist. And it’s hard to masturbate to NOT bombing brown people.

Yeah, I’ve always thought it was sweetly naive that some folks on the left thought that the Right had this romantic boner for Paul. Yes, he’s a kooky libertarian who does not have the true Randian stance on abortion (pssst: she would be for it), but he’s also an isolationist. And it’s hard to masturbate to NOT bombing brown people.

Now that you mention it (using the I word), I need to rephrase:

They love his social policy, they love his economic policy and they’re fifty/fifty on his foreign policy. He does, after all, want to pull out of the UN, pull out of NATO, pull out of every international institution the human race has ever created, and that part they love. It’s just that he also doesn’t want to bomb brown people, and worse, he implies that we might be somehow at fault for some of the bad things that’ve happened to the world and that that, not “they hate our freedoms,” might be powering a lot of the America-hate out there. That ain’t right…

Johnson is the new Paul.

And it’s hard to masturbate to NOT bombing brown people.

You’re telling me!

Their one and only true lover has always been Ron Paul.

No way. Ron Paul has all those squishy ideas about not killing brown people. Palin today, Palin tomorrow, Palin forever.

And that’ll teach me to not refresh after reading the whole day’s worth of troll bashing.

For my next trick, I will post the definitive proof that the sky is blue.

tigris is OVERSHARING.

I was taught that sharing is good. Hmph.

And it’s hard to masturbate to NOT bombing brown people.

And masturbating while bombing brown people tends to really mess up your aim.

I think it’s harder to be liberal.

A mean stubborn old conscience that faithfully burns like phosphorus whenever you’re being especially bastardly will do it for you every damn time. Just couldn’t keep that infantile delight in others’ pain going – not after the balls dropped & the voice changed. A funny little thing called reason also seems to factor into it somehow.

God knows it ain’t the pay or the groupies.

I’d put money on Bachmann before I’d put it on Mittens.

I think that would be a great way to lose your money.

Romney has been campaigning forever so he’s actually quite good at it by now, & he has very deep pockets – not to mention the approval of Inner Circle bigwigs. I think libtards dangerously overestimate the degree of voting-booth aversion his Mormonism can inspire on the right, & fail to grasp just how dangerous his candidacy is. Slick, cunning, charismatic & willing to sign anything to placate the Owners … imagine 2000-2008 with a SMART Dubya at the wheel & you might want to reach for the Gravol.

Crotchboy would be rocking like a hurricane if only he didn’t have to keep saying things where adults can hear them. Perry looks more & more like Bush 2.0 in the brainpan/piehole-disconnect department, gibbering or zoning out completely like a Teddy Ruxpin doll with a big-ass magnet stuck to it – & the absolute last thing the GOP wants is for Mittel-Amerika to recall what a smirking know-nothing they weaseled into the White House last time, let alone what an epic clusterfuck of death, ruin & economic gang-rape he Imagineered once he finally got done putting all those “W” keys back on the keyboards.

The best thing Obama has going for him is that the GOP has a dire case of political premature ejaculation: they massively overshot the shelf-life of their Astroturf protest gambit. Teabaggers are as popular as bladder infections in 2011, but if they were just emerging into the spotlight right now they’d be a magnificent weapon to beat him with in 2012.

Try thinking about baseball stats next time, guys.

I think libtards dangerously overestimate the degree of voting-booth aversion his Mormonism can inspire on the right, & fail to grasp just how dangerous his candidacy is.

Yup. We can’t afford to underestimate the Republicans, especially because there are a lot of people who would vote for anyone remotely palatable in place of the ebil dusky one. Romney would be an easy pitch as “remotely palatable” to those types.

This is too good not to share. (serious h/t Driftglass):

“As for the Republicans — how can one regard seriously a frightened, greedy, nostalgic huddle of tradesmen and lucky idlers who shut their eyes to history and science, steel their emotions against decent human sympathy, cling to sordid and provincial ideals exalting sheer acquisitiveness and condoning artificial hardship for the non-materially-shrewd, dwell smugly and sentimentally in a distorted dream-cosmos of outmoded phrases and principles and attitudes based on the bygone agricultural-handicraft world, and revel in (consciously or unconsciously) mendacious assumptions (such as the notion that real liberty is synonymous with the single detail of unrestricted economic license or that a rational planning of resource-distribution would contravene some vague and mystical ‘American heritage’…) utterly contrary to fact and without the slightest foundation in human experience? Intellectually, the Republican idea deserves the tolerance and respect one gives to the dead.”

— H.P. Lovecraft to C.L. Moore, August 1936

political premature ejaculation

Premature electulation? I think it’s high time southern liberals started ratfucking Romney from the right. His Mormonism is a strike against him with the Tealiban, and Romneycare is a strike against him with less Mormon-shy voters. Anybody in the former CSA willing to picket Romney appearances wearing a tricorn?

As always, an excellent diagnosis of the Republican problem, but as it sums up today’s Republicans as precisely as those of 75 yrs. ago, it seems little has changed & few have wised up.

Who sits at the stove? Not even I am that lazy!

Geez, when you lose H.P. “Black people are monkeys” Lovecraft, who the hell is left?

As always, an excellent diagnosis of the Republican problem, but as it sums up today’s Republicans as precisely as those of 75 yrs. ago, it seems little has changed & few have wised up.

If that was being written today, racism would figure much more prominently as a defining feature of the GOP, on top of the greed/ignorance thing which is still totally accurate.

That’s right: in 75 years, the GOP’s actually regressed.

That’s right: in 75 years, the GOP’s actually regressed.

Yeah, that Southern Strategy really dumbed them down.

Tea bagging loons or no, the Republican nominee is still probably going to be the next one in line, ’cause those bastards are as hide-bound as you can get while still breathing.

Romney has been campaigning forever so he’s actually quite good at it by now, & he has very deep pockets

Exactly. And Mittens, having had four yrs. unemployed (“Just like you.”) has managed to improve his campaigning & “brand” enough to look better than the joke candidates. (All of them except Perry being a joke.)

Not paying much attention at this stage, but he’s pretty far ahead in New Hampshire, the only early & not completely loony Republican contest. A solid win there & the buzz gets louder. If he pulls a stunt like offering the Veep slot to an obvious (non-Mormon division) Xian drooler before many more primaries he could be wrap it up well before the convention.

That being said, I now call for a moratorium on nominee speculation until next March. Something awful is bound to happen before then, & EVERYTHING WILL HAVE CHANGED, FOREVER!!!

racism would figure much more prominently as a defining feature of the GOP

Yes, but racism in those days being more widely (or at at least publicly) accepted, & especially entrenched in the Southern Democratic/Dixiecrat Party, ol’ H.P. didn’t have to mention it. Not that he was opposed or anything.

On topic: There are no titties on the telly, just boobs on the boob tube?

Yes, but racism in those days being more widely (or at at least publicly) accepted, & especially entrenched in the Southern Democratic/Dixiecrat Party, ol’ H.P. didn’t have to mention it. Not that he was opposed or anything.

True story. But I still think the GOP took a step back, even if they weren’t exactly tolerant back then.

One more ossum quote from the same Driftglass page (check out the “professional left” weekly podcast from Drifty & Bluegal if you don’t already–good stuff) From Chicagoland legend Mike Royko:

“Anyone who is different today faces harassment, whether it is in the way he dresses, or in the position he takes on important issues. And when the price of being different is a cold fear, with good reason, then freedom as we peddle it in our international publicity releases is gone. If and when it disappears, it won’t be stolen by big government, the tax collector, or the Supreme Court. Fascism will be the people’s choice. It usually is. We’ve managed to avoid it so far only because nobody nutty enough to give the people what they want has come along. Yet.”

— Mike Royko, May 28, 1968

…unless Christie jumps in.

He’d make a big splash.
~

They just added racism to their arsenal w/ via the Southern Strategy, as FurbyFourB noted. Black people (when allowed the opportunity to vote) pretty much went Republican until FDR. Party of Lincoln & all.

I can’t keep up. I left a short film treatment at the end of the last thread.

“W/ via” What the eff is that?

On (shark) topic.

I’m feeling like Spear. So many threads. So many commenters writing like bunnies in heat. I simply can’t keep up anymore.

I may be fading soon into (pre-Ice Nine) now-and-again spot lurker mode.

So many commenters writing like bunnies in heat.

I cannot begin to imagine what the Oestral Bunny would write about.

We were proud to sign Ibn Thundra’s petition.

On (shark) topic.

Maybe this will turn into an “Androcles and the Lion” type story- shark saves drowning swimmer…

I hate to confess this, but I probably would have punched the shark, just to say that I did.

I hate to confess this, but I probably would have punched the shark, just to say that I did.

I would have jumped over it.

I thought Smut already had.

i’ve been meaning to say this all day, but i’ve just been too g dang busy:

shorter dennis: my suckitude…let me show it to you…

“Fascism will be the people’s choice.”

Complete nonsense. Hitler never won an election. I doubt any other dictator ever rose to power through popularity. They’ve always used violence to overthrow democratic states. For that reason it won’t happen here either. Not without the co-operation of the military and a lot of blood.

i’m sure she’s sleeping it off in her hottub, but when vs wakes up, here is what not to buy for dudeskulll…

and with that, i bid y’all a good night…

Goodnight, moon.

bbkf-

Your list serves mostly as reminder that there are a lot of insecure daddies out there who really feel that they should be made more of a focus in the whole shebang even though they’ve done nothing but drink beer and fart since 9 months before the baby came into existence.

Also, eeugh.

HOw did I miss this show?

There are no titties on the telly, just boobs on the boob tube?

It’s the vessel with the pestle.

Ha. Actor slept through the main event.
~

How about we just let people do what we want, and if we don’t like their choices, we kindly shut our fucking pieholes and keep that opinion to ourselves?

Because there’s really no way to do anything else and not sound like an asshole.

I thought that was Baby Ruth bar floating in the hot tub. Turns out it was Dennis.

Isn’t a march really just a better organized and more extreme way of complaining? And, didn’t MLK and the civil rights movement do a helluva lot more than just march? If that was Obama’s message and not just some Breitbart edit hackery, then yes Obama has his head up his ass, but that’s nothing new.

I love that fresh thread smell!

How about we just let people do what we want, and if we don’t like their choices, we kindly shut our fucking pieholes and keep that opinion to ourselves?

Why don’t you keep that opinion to yourself?

Longer bbkf: “You ruined our hot tub club last night, Dennis. Not just just any hot tub club night, either…. this was our Saturday night hot tub club, you asswipe! I had to watch SNL with my husband…gawd.

i wasn’t aware that you ‘ruined’ anything, dennis…except probably the fun of those who are in your close proximity. if anything you are more of an amusement here than anything…and hubbkf is not a fan of snl, or most tv for that matter…most saturday nights we are either out on a date or hanging out with friends…so, no worries here!

Though it should be pointed out, no one wants Dennis in the hot tub because…there are enough bubbles without his mouth farts.

if anything you are more of an amusement here than anything

And not much of one.

I miss Bruce.

Man the paper badgers can dance.

Also would people rather hang out with people who hyperbolically say they’ll slit the throats of annoying trolls or people who may have nothing but smiles and zero curse words, but will gladly support actual murderous policies against their fellow man and whine about some commentator on a website being mean to them as if that was some real oppression?

But bonus points for not knowing the difference between death threats and righteous fury, Donalde, this is why only the men in the class respond to your sexual harassments.

And I apologized to vs immediately,

I must have missed where she accepted that apology.

Fail again Dennis. You are lying about the Alkon comments. A few people tried mocking Alkon as trans and a few more stepped up, objected to it and called people out for it. Cerberus did comment on it and didn’t defend the mockery. Is another apology coming?

i wasn’t aware that you ‘ruined’ anything, dennis…except probably the fun of those who are in your close proximity.

And their meal.

A few people tried mocking Alkon as trans and a few more stepped up

Do not regurgitate for the troll-fry. He’s been told the circumstances any number of times.

As soon as they can teach one of these big-boobed Chavez-haters to speak passable English, she’ll be given a seat on the Fox and Freaks Show.

Altho she’s not Brazilian, there can be only one

It’s not even so much about truths they don’t want to hear. If a “socialist” (which apparently includes a business-as-usual moderate who bails out failing ‘too-big-to-fail’ businesses rather than nationalizing them) says anything, anything, it’s a horrendous diktat. Obama could show up somewhere and tell a bunch of kids “Hey kids, work hard in school” and all you’d hear about for weeks was how he was trying to indoctrinate schoolchildren into some kind of Obamajugend, and I say this because that is what happened. Michelle Obama can say “Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century” and these guys would be all “HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT TO THINK”

Michelle Obama can say “Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of the twentieth century” and these guys would be all “HOW DARE YOU TELL ME WHAT TO THINK”

Did you see Bill Maher this weekend?

He basically said Obama could tell the nation to vote Republican and they’d get upset.

I read more than “a few’ of the 790 comments on the ‘Amy Alkon is a tranny, ha- ha-ha’ thread and saw more than ‘a few’ mocking her, and less than ‘a few’ stepping up.

Blah blah blah blah. Concern troll is concerned. Again.

Dennis, give us one, just one, legitimate and good reason why we should continue to engage your pathetic attempts to shame us.

Just one.

What’s the matter, Dennis?

Feeling a little…excitement…at that thought?

I’ve even sold some to the transvestitie community! Perhaps you’d like to purchase a couple? They should be small enough even for your junk.

Now….answer my question, sonny boy: why should we bother to engage your attempts at shaming us?

Or have you, at last, no courage?

Or is it to see what you can do to profit off them?

why is dennis whizzed off about actor wanting to make a profit? i thought capitalism=good…???

Dennis said,
September 26, 2011 at 23:03
I read more than “a few’ of the 790 comments on the ‘Amy Alkon is a tranny, ha- ha-ha’ thread and saw more than ‘a few’ mocking her, and less than ‘a few’ stepping up.

And no Cerberus.
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LOL, you’re talking about a thread from 3 years ago! I was referring to one within the last 3 weeks wherein the Alkon trans thing got stirred up, some took others to task for it, and Cerberus also commented against it. Your butthurt over this is pretty stupid and should have worn off after 3 years – get a better lube.

Pretty much a textbook example of a mob mentality, which come to think of it, is something he’s trying very hard to cultivate.

Apart from the lack of mob. Better textbooks needed.

I recall that much more mock was made of Alkon’s Shit Moat.

Dennis, you still haven’t answered my question. Was it too hard for you?

Would you like an easier one? I realize I’m dealing with a meth-addled mind, but you used to actually be fairly intelligent, many dim years ago. So here goes…

Do you really think I’m ashamed of selling goods labeled “Young and Hung” when I advertise them on my website, Dennis? Really? Really?

How sad and pathetic you’ve become…

LOL, you’re talking about a thread from 3 years ago!

And predates Cerb’s participation here at “Sadly,No!”, no less. I was saving that for when he got around to answering my question.

Grow a set, Danni. No more questions. Man up or shut up.

This thread where Cerberus railed against the injustices of his own friends using irregular gender behavior as an insult against someone else, somewhere in the last three weeks.

You mean like smearing them by calling them “trannie”?

Really, Danni? Really?

Better shift your girdle a little. You’re turning blue.

Do you actually listen to yourself when you speak, or do you find you drift in and out?

Seriously, Danni, I’m flattered for your attention, and while I realize this might embarass you, I’m going to put it out there:

Ask me out, already.

I mean, I have plenty of fanbois, but what I really need is a go-fer bitch. You seem ready to fill that role. You certainly think you can apply for the position.

This way, see, I can crush you with one blow. When I crush a person’s spirit, I like to use a combination of intimidation and degradation. You’ll just make it easier for me.

Y’know, we’re both men; one of us a little more than the other, but that’s okay. Your stones will descend one day. Maybe.

Venezuela: where the light-skinned folks wear designer gear, get tit-jobs and have instant access to US media, and the dark-skinned folks are poor, vote for Chavez and leave the Americans wondering why.

Maybe you could point me to this thread where the Alkon thing got stirred up, R-Dubya.

This thread where Cerberus railed against the injustices of his own friends using irregular gender behavior as an insult against someone else, somewhere in the last three weeks.

If only there were some sort of “search engine” that would allow one to enter appropriate words and find the corresponding webpages!

If only there were some sort of “search engine” that would allow one to enter appropriate words and find the corresponding webpages!

I bet if we checked Google, we could find one.

I’m not looking for it. Dealing with Dennis is a mug’s game, but it pissed me off to see him call Cerberus “unprincipled” when I know for a fact that Cerberus spoke on the Alkon trans issue not all that long ago when it last came up. I will cut Dennis a small amount of slack and admit that just maybe he didn’t know about that, but instead of arguing with me, he could easily look it up.

Keep looking. Cerb doesnt deserve the nonsense you spew, and I have a bad habit for defending underdogs (no pun). You shouldn’t cast aspersions at my being pissed, or my saying it, after all the contratemps you’ve had with actor on this very thread. Those reveal an astounding bit of “what’s the big fucking deal this is a snark blog” hypocrisy on your part. As I said before, if you didn’t know about the thread where Cerberus commented against what actor said, then I give you the benefit of the doubt on that. I’m done playing whatever game this is.

Here you go. Please go read the rest of the thread to pick up the gist. You obviously missed it the first time around. QED

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Cerberus said,
September 8, 2011 at 23:52

On the “offensiveness debate”, I’ll just say the usual. Everyone has the right to say whatever offensive shit they want and other people have the right to lose respect for them, think of them as assholes or speak out against them or even deny them platform for their speech on their locations, allowing them to be their charming selves on other parts of the web.

On the specifics of an “offensive joke”, i.e. a joke that punches down rather than up, using the usual slurs against the powerless to attack someone, the main problem is that they are unoriginal, lacking in creativity, and otherwise stupid. Oh, my, a woman has bad fashion sense, she must be a man. Let us now say nothing else but how she is a man. What exactly does this have to do with the main objections to her and how does it differ from any other tranny joke. I mean, said jokes are everywhere. Any woman who doesn’t fit a specific standard of beauty is accused to be a man and for a while any woman who tried to be in the public sphere and argue loudly was also viewed as a man. Using the joke is above any potential offensiveness, just fucking lazy, tired, and showing a complete lack of desire to make one’s comedic point in any interesting, on-target, or powerful way. It’s the problem with all the “stereotype” jokes, which is why there was so much effort to try and rebrand them as “daring” by arguing that people going “uh, huh, yeah, that was stupid, off-topic, and attacking a group that had nothing to do with it” was some huge attempt to ban all comedy.

But hey, everyone’s going to phone it in sometimes or have no problem looking like a lazy douchebag.

On the joke in specific. I think the biggest problem is the defense. I mean, really, what did any of that have to do with Amy Alkon or why she is offensive to our modern culture or the true origins of her many problems and psychoses? The why when you are explaining the why just isn’t there and I think that’s a bigger problem for its justification.

Does the joke bother me? Sometimes, sometimes not, it’s not really worth rising to everything all the time and I get that most of how it pulls me out is that I’m a brick transsexual myself so I get the whole “it’s ugly, it’s a man” on a more direct level, but hey, my issues, right? I tend to just scroll through them, because as I note above, the main problem is that they are unoriginal and add absolutely nothing except to let the regulars get out their share of tranny jokes for a bit.

On why does this get pushback whereas others do not, I’d have to note that you’ve been absent for awhile. X is fat or Y is a cunt jokes have gotten some good pushback lately and I don’t think I’ve encountered a good lookist thread that didn’t have some people noting their objections. Why this particular joke might get some extra pushback might just be the way that cultural evolution occurs. More people seeing transpeople as more human in culture, the fact that the “trans people are inhuman and disgusting” cultural myths have had nasty repercussions in our society that have been well-publicized of late, and so on. As I said, the other examples you used have gotten pushback. Honestly the “Arnold Alkon” jokes tend to get less pushback then “X is ugly” or “Y is fat” jokes in my opinion. But YMMV.

But yeah, serious post over.

Pretty much a textbook example of a mob mentality, which come to think of it, is something he’s trying very hard to cultivate.

I am hard-pressed to think of any field in which “mob mentality” is a term of art requiring an entry in a textbook, so further details would be appreciated.
Perhaps it is a textbook on “Crappy writing and cliches to avoid”.

Danni, man up and grow a set. RWW, let him stew in his ignorance. He seems to prefer it. He’s already been wrong on at least five points of fact that I’ve seen and I haven’t even been paying attention to him and his prissy little postings.

Sp Danni, how does it feel to get your ass kicked by two different people on the same night?

Wait. Lemme answer that for ya: It feels like your last date, I bet!

So Danni, how does it feel to get your ass kicked twice in the same night?

Wait. Lemme answer that for ya: It feels like your last date, I bet!

QED means I found the post you either were in denial or ignorance about. I won’t wait for you to thank me as it doesn’t matter. The thread is exactly as I said it was. No, I neither made fun of trannies, criticized those who do, nor commented in any way about it on that thread. So the fuck what? I did read it all and remembered it, especially Cerberus’ post which I felt showed tremendous humanity. Laugh if you like, but that was my take away from Cerberus and probably the reason why your ignorant attack against him bothered me enough to get involved and disprove you. Don’t keep moving the goalposts on this Dennis, the game’s over and you lost without scoring even once.

Or, to sum up…

*ahem*

win!

*AHem*

win!!

Smatter, Dennis? Upset that you haven’t figured out what size thong you need?

Here’s a clue: They don’t make an extra small.

*AHEM*

win!

*A-H-E-M*

win!

“Muomar Al-Bozell?”

Lawlz…

Hey, DenDen! I think I found another customer for my “Young and Hung” thongs!

Sheesh. I’m an exhibitionist and even *I* wouldn’t post a photo as….inferential….as he did!

Oh!

And…

win!

Hey! Between your closeted gayitude and your heroes obvious masculinity problems, maybe you could write a book “Queer Like Me,” DenDen. I’ll even sell it in my “Young and Hung” shop. You’ll get the usual 10%

Oh!!

*ahem*

win!

And you claim you’re not stalking me?

*ahem*

win!

Oh. And….

win!

My little fanboy has an entire Google cache on me! It must have taken you years to save all those clippings.

I’m flattered!

I think.