Putting The Slippery Back Into The Slope

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Shorter Msgr. Ross Xavier Pius Douthat, S.J., O.P., O.F.M., S.S.J., Th.D+, The New York Fucking Times Pope-Ed Page
Dr. Kervorkian’s Victims

  • If you let terminally ill patients in excruciating pain kill themselves, then you have to let healthy three-year-olds kill themselves as well. And who wants that?

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“If you let terminally ill patients in excruciating pain kill themselves, then you have to let healthy three-year-olds kill themselves as well. And who wants that?

the problem is that no one realizes they want just that until long after they are three years old.

 
thats right...
 

you know who else enjoyed comparing two totally different things didn’t you?

 
 

then you have to let healthy three-year-olds kill themselves as well. And who wants that?

Parents of three year olds?

 
 

you know who else enjoyed comparing two totally different things didn’t you?

Sesame Street?

 
 

thats right… is worse than three Hitlers.
~

 
 

I would like to hear what the rusted out camper has to say.

 
 

Catlick church in a nut shell: you must be born. You are not allowed to die. In the meantime we will make your life as miserable as possible, constantly telling you how miserable it is, so that we can exploit you with promises of something better after you are no longer useful to us.

Heh, they do belong in a nut shell, don’t they?

 
 

If participating in a suicide is legally and ethically acceptable, in other words, it can’t just be because cancer is brutal and dementia is dehumanizing. It can only be because there’s a right to suicide.

You know, everyone with a little strength has this right, constitutional or not.

 
 

It can only be because there’s a right to suicide.

Ross is afraid that if there’s a right to suicide, he’ll fail to justify his pathetic existence.

 
 

There’s a really good documentary on, I think, IFC right now — How To Die In Oregon — about our assisted suicide law. Follows an actual terminally ill woman through her decision and her death. Pretty powerful stuff to watch, but definitely the way I’d want to go if it came to that.

I have to assume Douthat also hasn’t watched anybody close to him lose all their faculties and slowly wither away in pain and misery. Who am I kidding, he’d have to have an ounce of compassion for that to matter.

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

How would that sound if we put it this way:

If participating in a suicide murder is legally and ethically acceptable, in other words, it can’t just be because cancer is brutal war is justified and dementia is dehumanizing capital punishment is nescessary. It can only be because there’s a right to suicide murder.

 
 

I would like to hear what the rusted out camper has to say.

I’m afraid that the old rusted-out camper is busy, as are most of our professional journalists in this, the greatest nation on earth (ever!), with panty-sniffing.

Emergency meeting of the Village quilting bee and ladies circle jerk society

But listening to Chris Matthews and Howard Fineman crow and strut about cornering him into admitting his “crime” is far worse. This is the essence of the Village folks. We are about to be treated to endless nauseating lectures about propriety from a bunch of wealthy, decadent, television celebrities who will be rending their garments over the allegedly shocking sexual behavior of politicians as if they are the elders of a small American town circa 1957 — as they pore over every. single. detail. Nothing could be more revolting, not even unpleasant pictures of a politician’s erect member.

I honestly haven’t seen a Hardball this turgid and throbbing since some time in 1998. Matthews is positively beaming. And he’s going with the story for the full hour almost the full hour. Of course.

~

 
 

Wow, what a mess that article is.

If participating in a suicide is legally and ethically acceptable, in other words, it can’t just be because cancer is brutal and dementia is dehumanizing. It can only be because there’s a right to suicide.

If killing in self-defense is legally and ethically acceptable, is it because there’s a right to kill? Or might it be that the situation really does matter?

Kevorkian was obsessed with human experimentation, and pined for a day when both assisted suicides and executions could be accompanied by vivisection

Ad hominem, red herring, and someone doesn’t know what vivisection means. Hint: the word you meant is the more general “dissection.”

 
 

And once we allow that such a right exists, the arguments for confining it to the dying seem arbitrary at best.

Or you know, instead of threatening anyone even thinking about it with hard time in prison, we could actually discuss the topic. Maybe even look at how it works in other places.

OTOH, countless of the weak and infirm going through months if not years of excruciating agony and suffering seems like a small price to pay for not having to think about it at all. Hey, it’s E3 this week!

 
 

Kevorkian was obsessed with human experimentation, and pined for a day when both assisted suicides and executions could be accompanied by vivisection

Vivisection: How the fuck does it work?
Idiot.

 
 

,,, and someone doesn’t know what vivisection means.

Assisted suicide by vivisection!

And BTW you loony libs, the fact is you all laughed at us when we were shitting our pantses about Death Panels. Well who’s shitting their pantses now? We are. Because you really do want Death Panels. We were right!

 
 

I was very upset in February when my very Catholic mother was in hospice. Helpless, in tremendous pain, unable to eat, barely able to breathe. I thought how easily she could “accidentally” slip off her oxygen at night and have it all be over but the thought would never occur to her, nor would she even consider it if it did. Fuck you Ross, and fuck your goddamn church. You put my mother in hell right here on earth just so you could feel pious or some such crap. Fuck you fuck you fuck you.

 
 

Vivisection was focus-tested by Frank Luntz, and found to score higher than dissection, tigris.
~

 
 

countless of the weak and infirm going through months if not years of excruciating agony and suffering

feature, not bug.

 
 

someone doesn’t know what vivisection means

That’s when Ms. Blaine is singing “Adelaide’s Lament” and a cliffotine cuts her in half vertically.

 
 

and what Pupienus said.

The Catlick Church is big endorser of Hell on Earth.

 
 

Douthat is one seriously fucked up dude.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

someone doesn’t know what vivisection means

That’s when Ms. Blaine is singing “Adelaide’s Lament” and a cliffotine cuts her in half vertically.

No. vivisection is the part of the flat in “The Young Ones” that is occupied by the punk.

 
 

Hint: the word you meant is the more general “dissection.”

AND DON’T YOU FUCKING DARE MISPRONOUNCE IT! There are two, count ’em, TWO MOTHERFUCKING esses in the word. From ‘dis’ and ‘section’ see? Get it, ‘dis’ as in ‘disassembly’ and ‘discombobulate.’. ‘Section’ as in part, piece. It means to take the fucking parts apart. You say it with a long ‘i’ and I swear I will hunt you down and skullfuck you.

 
 

Kevorkian was obsessed with human experimentation, and pined for a day when both assisted suicides and executions could be accompanied by vivisection

1) No, he wasn’t

B) Vivisection? REALLY?

3) I only remember him pining about recognizing that it’s in violation of the Hippocratic Oath to let a patient lie in misery and suffer until an inevitable death.

TRUTH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

 
 

No, I’m quite an easy going person. Why do you ask?

 
 

Vivisection was focus-tested by Frank Luntz, and found to score higher than dissection, tigris.
~

Would this again be among a panel of illiterate doughnut-hound Fox viewers?

 
 

Ross is afraid that if there’s a right to suicide, he’ll fail to justify his pathetic existence. no one would ever read two of his columns.

flacksored

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

After watching Pup get so fired up on dissections, I guess I will forego the joke I was about type on trisections.

 
 

Rosster, like many of his intellectually and empathetically challenged peers, thinks that this argument is about suicide. It’s not. It’s about basic fucking human dignity and quality of life. Once they stop with the damnation of their eternal souls crap, then we can actually have a discussion.

Also, too Douchehate, you might remind yourself that with the right to die on your own terms without pious fuckfaces such as yourself stopping in and creating your own little death panel, you also have the right to refuse to die and hang on in agony as long as you wish.

You Refucks are all about choice, until you’re not.

 
 

No. vivisection is the part of the flat in “The Young Ones” that is occupied by the punk.

Hmm. I thought the vivisection was behind the French Horns.

 
 

But if such sentiments are understandable [Viewing Kevorkian as a humanitarian rather than a murderer], they are morally perilous as well. We do not generally praise doctors who help dispatch their terminally ill patients, as Kevorkian repeatedly and unashamedly did. Even when death is inevitable and inevitably painful, it is not considered merciful to prescribe an overdose to a cancer victim against her will, or to gently smother a sleeping Alzheimer’s patient.

I see little red fishies!!

 
 

I thought the vivisection was behind the French Horns.

It’s usually in front of the trumpets.

Would [the focus group] again be among a panel of illiterate doughnut-hound Fox viewers?

You’re implying that there’s some other kind of focus group?

 
 

Antichrist insists in vivivisections.

 
 

Even when death is inevitable and inevitably painful, it is not considered merciful to prescribe an overdose to a cancer victim against her will, or to gently smother a sleeping Alzheimer’s patient.

Dropping bombs on them, on the other hand, would be Jesus-approved.

 
 

I guess I will forego the joke I was about type on trisections.

Somebody DIE, sected! your sentence and is storing a word in formaldehyde for safe keeping.

 
 

will hunt you down and skullfuck you.

Zombie.

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

I used to have a naugahyde chair, but I had it reupholstered in formaldahyde.

 
 

that’s only because the massive herds of Naugas were hunted to extinction in the 60s and 70s.

 
 

What about teh vuvuzelasection?

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Glad I read the whole thread before commenting. Poopy beat me too it. Every time I hear “di-section” (“cut into two parts”), it makes me all stabby.

 
 

,,,storing a word in formaldehyde for safe keeping.

Surely you meant threemaldehyde.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

My purism didn’t keep me from typing “too” for “to”, though.

 
 

Ad hominem, red herring, and someone doesn’t know what vivisection means. Hint: the word you meant is the more general “dissection.”

WTF??!! This gobshite has a paid writing gig with the Paper of Record (so called)? Grrrr… I wanna break something now!

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

I used to have a naugahyde chair, but I had it reupholstered in formaldahyde.

Presumably because the naugahyde was too casual?

 
UncertaintyVicePrincipal
 

Yeah the terminally ill and their “special rights” demands. Just another way that Big Disease is always trying to take over and run your life.

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

Presumably because the naugahyde was too casual?

No, I just liked the stripes.

 
 

Hod dan thatrq fucksan eijeh anda shiatn awifl colm a sso fukin shiaqt I’ve gforgorwten howa typeee. Fuckane cwunat.

 
 

Now who can argue with that?

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

WTF??!! This gobshite has a paid writing gig with the Paper of Record (so called)? Grrrr… I wanna break something now!

Hey now. Concern trolling, errors of fact, poorly- or un- reasoned arguments and strawmen are pretty representative of the level of national discourse and are arguably, worth ‘recording’.

 
 

I refudiate vivisection.

 
 

You put my mother in hell right here on earth just so you could feel pious or some such crap.

Don’t forget, they also wanted to suck out the last remaining cents they could get from Medicare.

 
 

Dissection over here, datsection over dere.
People in Asia should be born old.
About your pain, Ross does not care,
Except to prompt his inner moral scold.

Is there a right to suicide –
Whether or not you’re painless?
Should this verse be in formaldehyde,
To prevent its wandering aimless?

Ross says suicide is absolute,
It can never be allowed
Else a man and his turtle might give themselves the boot
And end the lives which their Creator hath them endowed

No exceptions or it’s the slippery slope
But applied only to teh gheys, suiciders and none other.
Boy that Ross sure is a dope,
And yet I still fucked his mother.

 
 

I hope Ross was in the room with you, DK-W. It might drive him to………………………………………………………..suicide.

 
 

Else a man and his turtle might give themselves the boot

Suicide by turtle, head bashed with a shell.
Suicide by turtle, will land your ass in hell.

 
 

hey ross! jesus committed suicide…think about it…

 
 

You’re implying that there’s some other kind of focus group?

After watching television a few times, I realize that there must not be another kind.

 
 

After raping mountains of children (just speaking to recent atrocities only), Catholics still have a seat at the table when discussing morals. FAIL.

 
 

hey ross! jesus committed suicide…think about it…

God told him to do it.

 
 

You know who else committed suicide?

 
 

God told him to do it.

Thank Judas for the assist.

 
 

God told me to hold Ross down and take a shit in his mouth.

 
 

It can only be because there’s a right to suicide.

Mini-Bobo or John Donne? Who to believe? Who is the deeper, more honest thinker? Decisions, decisions.

 
 

listing prominent Biblical examples including Samson, Saul, and Judas Iscariot.

i am sure they all went to hell for offing themselves…jesus didn’t go to hell (well yes he did, but not central to my point) because of…you know, nepotism…

 
 

Interesting juxtaposition…

Money quote:

As Anthony Weiner is about to find out: When you’re a politician, not all lies are the same. There’s a big difference between breaking a campaign promise by failing to deliver on something and breaking the public’s trust with an outright falsehood.

When you do the former, the public will shrug and surmise that you’re no better or worse than any other elected official. But when you do the latter, you signal that you can no longer be trusted on any level

 
 

God told me to hold Ross down and take a shit in his mouth.

Unfortunately, some of that shit got all over the Times’ op-ed page.

 
 

Unfortunately, some of that shit got all over the Times’ op-ed page.

Little snack for the ‘stache of radical centrism.

 
 

Smut Clyde said,

June 7, 2011 at 22:05

Mini-Bobo…

I believe you have speeled “Chunky BoBo” incorrectly, Herr S.C.
~

 
 

God told me to hold Ross down and take a shit in his mouth.

It would be VERY BAD of me to start development of a sequel to Human Centipede involving wingnut pundits, or to suggest that the Sadlytariat conceptualize the funniest combinations.

Very bad.

 
 

Kevorkian […] pined for a day
Wouldn’t eat. Languishing. Lost all his beautiful plumage.

We do not generally praise doctors who help dispatch their terminally ill patients,
I am betting that this shitweasel has never spent 10 feckin’ minutes in an oncology ward, or asked the oncology staff to explain ‘snowing out’.
Smut angry now. No morphine for Douthat!

Also is there not something more-than-usually contemptible about waiting for someone to die before you regurgitate all the bad things you’ve been wanting to say about them? Would it not have been more useful while they were still alive?

 
 

but I think we have to start teh chain with either Roger Ailes or Limbaugh, just because of the output.

VERY VERY BAD. BAD ZOMBIE IZ BAD.

 
 

When you do the former, the public will shrug and surmise that you’re no better or worse than any other elected official. But when you do the latter, you signal that you can no longer be trusted on any level

really?!?!? omfg…

so…basically, it’s all bullshit, right?

 
 

Also is there not something more-than-usually contemptible about waiting for someone to die before you regurgitate all the bad things you’ve been wanting to say about them?

Contemptible? He’s just a typical cowardly bitch trying to hide his shame under the mantle of journalism. It’s tradition to speak ill of the dead when you have nothing to but ill things to say.

 
The Hamlet in Ross' mind
 

I dunno, I been thinking ’bout killin myself, y’know?
I was kinda wondering, like should I go through all that heavy shit
The pain and agony and stuff
or maybe say fuck that noise
and by pushing the button get some fucking relief.

 
 

Douthat is last.
or maybe Breitbart.

Nothing wrong with the Ourorboros design. Solves the “who’s last” argument.

 
 

SMUT CLYDE JOHNSON IS RIGHT!

 
 

“Human Centipede – Unending. The final sequel.”

 
 

OOO, better:

“Human Centipede: the Neverending Sequel”

 
 

After raping mountains of children (just speaking to recent atrocities only), Catholics still have a seat at the table when discussing morals. FAIL.

Child’s play (so to speak) compared to the Inquisition and Crusades. Why should they give up their position as the world’s scolds now?

 
 

Child’s play (so to speak) compared to the Inquisition and Crusades. Why should they give up their position as the world’s scolds now?

Who would ever willingingly abdicate that position. The idea is to tell them STFU and GTFO.

 
 

that first sentence is a question, by the way.

 
 

Both my mother and my father spent a short amount of time bedridden at home, until my brother was unable to care for them, then a short amount of time in hospice.

Both of my brothers and I were allowed a gracious amount of time to talk to them while they were aware, and the hospice made them comfortable while they passed. We said what needed to be said, and best I could tell, they recognized what we said.

In comparison, missus zombie’s father went into full-blown Alzheimer’s for quite some time before he died; after a while, it became pointless for me to even visit, as there was no comprehension of who I was. Let alone our son, his grandson. MZ found it increasingly distressing to visit him, to see the pointless deterioration.

Not saying that we just wanted to pump him with the waters of Lethe, but dammit, I feel that the way Mom and Dad went was more dignified and compassionate.

As with abortion, it is an intensely personal decision, and Ross Douthat is the LAST person I want making that decision for me. Well, one of the last.

Of course, Douthat gives not a shit for anything other than his anti-human religious fables and insisting that more pain in this life glorifies his bloody, bloody god.

Okay, now back to POOP jokes.

 
 

hospice rocks…i am working up the nerve to become a hospice volunteer…

 
 

Okay, now back to POOP jokes.

what’s brown and sits on a bench?

 
 

what’s brown and sits on a bench?

Clarence Thomas is definitely in the Human Centi-circle.

 
 

i am working up the nerve to become a hospice volunteer…

Awesome. From what I have heard it is very hard, but very rewarding. Not for everybody, though, and if it doesn’t work out you are still WAY better than Ross Douthat.

 
 

i am working up the nerve to become a hospice volunteer…
Teh Frau Doktorin recommends it. Various friends & family have passed through the doors of the local hospice so we figure we owe them big-time.

 
 

Well, one of the last.

Others who should not make that decision for me:

Santorum
Palin
Gingrinch
Huck-a-fuck
Rand-or-Ron Paul
Orange Boner
Paul Dumbo Ryan
Scott “I Blow Goats” Walker
The insurance industry

 
 

From what I have heard it is very hard, but very rewarding.

As well as the mundane work of pushing a trolley around the rooms to check that everyone is supplied with their caffeinated or alcoholic beverage of choice. the local hospice offers a kind of ‘narrative therapy’ service where they help people write an autobiography. The client reminisces; a trained volunteer records the session, prompts with questions to keep the flow of memories unwinding and to bring it back on track after each digression. Followed by transcribing, working with the client on choosing a narrative structure, providing as much or as little editing as the client prefers, and generally lending one’s own narrative skills.

Some people write their memoirs as a kind of oral history to be available for anyone who’s interested for what life was like. Sometimes the memoir is intended for a young child who might want to know in 10 years’ time what their mother was like. Sometimes it’s purely personal… the client edits his or her memories to form a narrative arc with a beginning and an end, reads the last page, and asks for the tapes to be wiped. I hate the word ‘closure’ but it’s what applies here.

Sometimes the Frau Doktorin is a bit weepy after a recording session.

 
 

“We are all dying, day by day: do the terminally ill really occupy a completely different moral category from the rest?”

No. Therefore we should all commit suicide. I felt a little hungover Saturday morning. Iris asked if there was anything she could do. I said “Kill me.” She refused, but only because she doesn’t drink (much), so she couldn’t possibly know my pain.

The expression “death squads” come to mind. Maybe Dothat thinks that in America, snappy business minds will see the efficacy in sending out squads of smartly dressed (in black) salesmen who will encourage those with a frown or a grimace to follow them back to the van.

What has happened to the Times? We truly must be in a depression.

 
 

We truly must be in a depression.
i know i am after pondering on this:
This gobshite has a paid writing gig with the Paper of Record

 
 

No. Therefore we should all commit suicide.

Does not apply to me.

Nor to you all, because we want fresh branes in the zombocalypse.

 
 

“What about teh vuvuzelasection?”

Always the most underappreciated section of the orchestra.

 
 

“We are all dying, day by day

Robert Smith?

 
 

Always the most underappreciated section of the orchestra.

You haven’t heard the new Mekons album yet.

 
 

Anybody who has watched a loved one die in horrible pain in a hospital over the course of weeks or months know that what’s really going on is institutionalized TORTURE.

And since we know where the Right stands on that issue, it makes perfect sense Douthat & Co. want to continue the policy by any means.

 
Whizzo Quality Assortment
 

Lucky for Maggie Thatcher, there are no Teabaggers in the UK (not that Rupert Murdoch isn’t tryin like hell).

They already have a theme song though (warning: earworm!).

 
 

“What about teh vuvuzelasection?”

Always the most underappreciated section of the orchestra

also the most mis-read…

and misunderstood…

 
 

zombie rotten mcdonald said,

June 7, 2011 at 22:56

Well, one of the last.

SinkLettuce not forget Jefferson Beauregard “Jeff” Sessions III (KKK-Alabama)
~

 
 

also the most mis-read…

and misunderstood…

Well I for one could totally get behind* a vulvazela section.

*yeah.

 
 

Now that I’m going to college I can sort of understand opinion columnists better. I’ve written a lot of papers where I had nothing remotely interesting to say, because if I didn’t, I would fail the class.

One such species of paper is when I have what I think is a really good, interesting insight, which I write out, dissect, and look at from all the angles… only to realize it only took four hundred words and I still have to come up with another 29 pages of padding.

I think that’s what happened to Ross, here. One of his slippery slopes actually does seem to be true:

In situations where euthanasia is practiced, it quickly spreads to include not just terminal patients, but also people with painful, incurable but non-terminal problems, eg quadriplegia, rheumatoid arthritis, etc.

But the New York Times ain’t gonna pay you for just one sentence. Luckily Ross knows a million different ways to say, “yes, but killing is wrong, m’kay?”

 
 

Lucky for Maggie Thatcher, there are no Teabaggers in the UK (not that Rupert Murdoch isn’t tryin like hell).

Well, the whole “Tea Party” thing may strike Britishers as a bit aggro.

In situations where euthanasia is practiced, it quickly spreads to include not just terminal patients, but also people with painful, incurable but non-terminal problems, eg quadriplegia, rheumatoid arthritis, etc.

Do you have a citation to back this up?

 
 

“Well I for one could totally get behind* a vulvazela section”

BUNNED!

 
 

As Anthony Weiner is about to find out: When you’re a politician, not all lies are the same. There’s a big difference between breaking a campaign promise by failing to deliver on something and breaking the public’s trust with an outright falsehood.

When you do the former, the public will shrug and surmise that you’re no better or worse than any other elected official. But when you do the latter, you signal that you can no longer be trusted on any level

Good lord.

A lot of people seem to think this way and I find it incredibly annoying. The whole argument is based on this idea that people break campaign promises by sort of not managing to get enough support to do things they said they would, and governing is really hard and stuff just falls through even when you try really hard.

In fact, in many instances you have cases where, say, a senator will vow to vote no on any bill with telecom immunity, and then will vote yes on such a bill.

No I will never get over it.

Anyway, you know what else is hard and sometimes just falls apart? Marriage! And Weiner’s saucy pictures haven’t, you know, killed anybody, or fucked over the constitution.

The idea that lies should be punished more the less severe they are is perverse.

 
 

zombie rotten mcdonald said,
June 7, 2011 at 22:56

Santorum
Palin
Gingrinch
Huck-a-fuck
Rand-or-Ron Paul
Orange Boner
Paul Dumbo Ryan
Scott “I Blow Goats” Walker
The insurance industry

zombie poet is even worse than D-KW

 
 

The idea that lies should be punished more the less severe they are is perverse.

But but but…fambly values! You do it too! Beanbag hatstand typewriter!

/wingnut

 
 

Life is a terminal condition.

 
 

zombie poet is even worse than D-KW

Free verse, asshole.

 
 

I am intrigued by the idea of a benbag hatstand typewriter. I’ll just see whether Ron Popeil has beaten me to the market before I pop into the lab.

 
 

Do you have a citation to back this up?

Well, mainly just Ross’ bit about Veritas and the fact that the Dutch law cited way up in the thread does seem to permit the ending of life in cases of unbearable suffering even if that suffering wouldn’t kill you.

There’s also the fact that it is a moral grey area. To tell somebody who is suffering from a terminal disease that it’s fine to end their suffering, but then say it’s not okay for somebody who is elderly, equally suffering but non terminal seems, well, cruel.

 
 

As well as the mundane work of pushing a trolley around the rooms to check that everyone is supplied with their caffeinated or alcoholic beverage of choice. the local hospice offers a kind of ‘narrative therapy’ service where they help people write an autobiography. The client reminisces; a trained volunteer records the session, prompts with questions to keep the flow of memories unwinding and to bring it back on track after each digression. Followed by transcribing, working with the client on choosing a narrative structure, providing as much or as little editing as the client prefers, and generally lending one’s own narrative skills.

What a fantastically brilliant idea. Sometimes humans are good for something besides zombie and shark food.

 
 

Thing is, just about anyone can end their own life and many do without regard to law. At its core, the issue isn’t whether people should be allowed to kill themselves – what would the punshment be for violating that law, one wonders – but whether people who wish to do so can access better methods than they have now.

 
 

what would the punshment be for violating that law, one wonders

Life in Hell while being tortured forever.
~

 
 

but whether people who wish to do so can access better methods than they have now.

Which prevents leaving a mess behind for the family to find and deal with…

 
 

Life in Hell while being tortured forever.

God Loves You!

 
 

At its core, the issue isn’t whether people should be allowed to kill themselves – what would the punshment be for violating that law, one wonders

Enforced zombification.

Duh.

 
 

At its core, the issue isn’t whether people should be allowed to kill themselves

I think that at the core, you’re dealing with another Sunday School Fear that was planted in children, and the reflexive reaction of right wingers to control this behavior, lest it somehow reflect on themselves–or perhaps it is some twisted form of altruism. It’s the same thing they’re doing with gay marriage. Not one of these fuckheads has any personal stake in their so-called moral arguments. This all stems from an incessant and rather disturbing need to control others and bend the world to suit their silly ideological vision of life, the way things “ought to be”.

 
 

Enforced zombification.

Can I be a vampire instead? They get all the hot chicks.

 
 

Enforced zombification.

I always thought Jesus was a willing participant.

Perhaps being forced to be an enginyer.

 
 

N__B said,

Duh.

well, that was kind of weird.

 
 

well, that was kind of weird.

I was channeling my inner Valley Girl.

 
 

Euphemism euphemism EUPHEMISM!

 
Whizzo Quality Assortment
 

A state law enforcement source later Tuesday afternoon told the Houston Chronicle that deputies had been directed to the site by a psychic.

Police work is much easier when they’re stupid enough to self-incriminate by calling in psychic tips.

 
 

Police work is much easier when they’re stupid enough to self-incriminate by calling in psychic tips.

Beats shooting a cement alligator.
~

 
 

In situations where euthanasia is practiced, it quickly spreads to include not just terminal patients, but also people with painful, incurable but non-terminal problems, eg quadriplegia, rheumatoid arthritis, etc.

Euthanasia is practiced anywhere where there is a painkiller that happens to have lethality as a side-effect of sufficiently large doses,* and where there are compassionate doctors and nurses who can take a hint. The only question is whether to recognise it. Rather like abortion, really.

Speading out… not so much.

* Heard from a friend.

 
 

Life in Hell while being tortured forever.

The other alternative is spending an eternity with Jerry Falwell and Oral Roberts.

Ahem, could we maybe get a few more items on the menu down here?

 
 

The other alternative is spending an eternity with Jerry Falwell and Oral Roberts.

See! The world did end on May 21, 2011.

Anyone up for a game of poker? Chess?
~

 
Whizzo Quality Assortment
 

Beats shooting a cement alligator.

Or a stuffed tiger.

 
 

Hot off the presses, the gift that keeps giving:

http://www.gaypatriot.net/2011/06/07/on-anthony-weiner-marriage/

 
 

Anecdata: Guy w/ whom I went to college told me his uncle had had & recovered from liver cancer. Guy said his unc said it was so painful unc would not go through it again, even if he knew he’d survive the second go-round.

No idea what the uncle’s pain threshold was, or whether some moralistic a-hole had decided he shouldn’t get adequate pain medication, but there’s something for Doo-shat to muse on.

 
 

Beats shooting a cement alligator.
~

Sounds like fun to me! I like shooting stuff.

 
 

Why does Chunky Bobo hate the youth in asia so much?

 
 

Anyone who’s in the Stockton/Lodi area of California and can help out a good person – Kirsten – as she deals with late-stage melanoma (with the heroic assistance of her friend and roommate, Andee), check out Kirsten’s site http://here. And once again I lament the absence of a Preview option.

 
 

From the battle with the stuffed tiger link:

She added that officers cleared a nearby golf course and were prepared to close the M27 motorway should the tiger make a run for it – but in the end that proved unnecessary

The stuffed animal apparently made no attempt to escape. Those tranquilizer darts work like a charm.

 
 

Why does Chunky Bobo hate the youth in asia so much?

Because they all know karate.

 
 

Euphemism euphemism EUPHEMISM!

Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

 
 

Why does Chunky Bobo hate the youth in asia so much?

Has he suggested euthanasia for youth in asia?

 
 

Has he suggested euthanasia for youth in asia?

Not predominantly Christian…Judge rules: No violation.

 
 

Stuffed tigers are why we don’t get outta the boat.
~

 
 

Stuffed tigers are why we don’t get outta the boat.

To quote some guy: Euphemism euphemism EUPHEMISM!

 
 

Badger badger BADGER!

 
 

Beetlejui…

Oh shut the fuck up.

 
 

Air-Wreck-Woods, Son of Air-Wreck, is revealed as the WHORE he is!

 
 

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Pupienus said,

June 8, 2011 at 0:20

Life is a terminal condition.

Just Dropped In

 
 

“Why not put Erick’s influence to work for your organization?”

I’d suggest you comply, or face the shotgun.

 
 

What a fantastically brilliant idea. Sometimes humans are good for something besides zombie and shark food.

ikr? i’m going to see if our hospice would be interested in something like this…

 
Spearhafoc, who's taking things out of context
 

She’ll be driving six white horses when she comes.

 
 

tsam said,

June 8, 2011 at 1:05

Still right on top of things down South.

To be fair, Texas ain’t the South. In the real South, we don’t believe in such nonsense.

 
 

She’ll be driving six white horses when she comes.

Euphemism euphemism euphemism blatant!

 
 

ikr? i’m going to see if our hospice would be interested in something like this…
I don’t know who pioneered the Biography service but quite a few other hospices around NZ are adopting it as well and consulting the local branch for advice / training.

Can provide contact details for the coordinator.

Also.

 
 

I get the impression from LG&M that Douthat is fond of the Human Dignity argument. Any time you want autonomy over some aspect of your life, he can show that your decisions are mere selfish hedonism and counter to Human Dignity, which is invariably best protected by giving the Pope autonomy over that aspect of your life.

 
 

Ooh, get the Kiwi with his realistic, pragmatic, non-dogma stuff. This is the YOO ESS AY!11!1. We don’t cotton to reality.

 
 

PEN1S.

 
 

Can provide contact details for the coordinator.

cool…i will let you know if our hospice is willing…

 
 

PEN1S.

ha! these little rascals might have a future in airport design!

 
 

…and now a Waikato school, rather unfortunately, has been captured with its own aerial art – six giant phallic symbols.

Rock on, upsideownians!
~

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Rock on, upsideownians!

The correct term is “Ascians”—Pr. Ay-Shay-uns—”(People) without shadows”. ‘Cause you know, living on the bottom-side of the world and all, the sun’s coming up from below their feet.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Fuck me—all the Weak-I-peed-ia knows about the word “Ascians” is from The Book of the New Sun!

 
 

Shorter Bernanke: We must continue doing more of what we have been doing, because it hasn’t worked.

Sigh.

 
 

Longer Bernenke: “The economy is still producing at levels well below its potential; consequently, accommodative monetary policies are still needed,”

I’m sorry, Ben, but my accomodator has accommodated just about as much accommodation as it can accommodate. It’s beginning to make me walk funny.

 
 

Also, too. Mirrors reflect sunlight, consequently, a duck!

 
 

the sun’s coming up from below their feet.
No, we don’t cast shadows because the sun shines out of our butts.

 
 

No, we don’t cast shadows because the sun shines out of our butts.

Rainbows.

Which happens to coincide with what Bernanke is saying, “Everything we are doing is working just great for the people we actually care about. AKA not you.”
~

 
 

Oh, you know that nasty-sounding pro-life horror film that got mentioned in the previous thread?

It’s even grosser than you thought.

 
 

You say it with a long ‘i’ and I swear I will hunt you down and skullfuck you.

Pulpius, you owe me a new laptop, if just drowned mine laughing with a mouth full of coffee….

 
 

Lucky for Maggie Thatcher, there are no Teabaggers in the UK (not that Rupert Murdoch isn’t tryin like hell).

Well, there a local variant, the laughable named English Defence League (EDL), although their main (only) policy plank seems to be; ‘teh scary muslims……, kill…….’. They also don’t dress up like the teabaggers, unless you call a wifebeater shirt and a shaved head dressing up?

 
 

teh thread… is dead….

 
 

No way! We won’t let you euthanasia supporters abridge a thread’s life with such expeditive statements.

 
 

“Penis prank caught by Google satellite”

yet another piece of evidence that we are trapped deep in a cloud of Dark Matter and it is tugging hard on quantum interactions:

…acting principal Gerhard van Dyk was not amused

 
 

Now it’s dead.

 
 

It’s even grosser than you thought.

“And then it punches you in the face.” I suspect this ass may have a long history with getting punched in the face.

 
 

Well, there a local variant, the laughable named English Defence League (EDL), although their main (only) policy plank seems to be; ‘teh scary muslims……, kill…….’. They also don’t dress up like the teabaggers, unless you call a wifebeater shirt and a shaved head dressing up?

And in France, the Front National, which is getting a makeover; the old bastard’s passing the reins of power to his daughter, who apparently banned skinheads from their annual rally this year and is stressing the “soft” anti-immigration messages like “really, stop wearing those veils and adapt to French culture, would you?” rather than her dad’s “the presidency is controlled by Jewish international bankers!” It’s a kinder, gentler fascism. Fascism with a human face. “Respectable” fascism for respectable people. Etc.

Meanwhile, Sarkozy’s UMP tries to steal their thunder by presenting himself as the no-nonsense law-and-order candidate… not unlike the Nixon/Wallace dynamic of America in 1968.

Oy vey, oy gevalt and oy shit. Poor France, where are you headed?

 
 

“It’s like the Twilight Zone. Life, like pro-life; zone, like the Twilight Zone. And if you’ve seen Twilight Zone episodes, it punches you in the face in the end,” Del Vecchio added, though he was quick to note he still felt the film’s presentation of the issues was balanced. “I think the audience will walk away not knowing what the filmmaker’s position is, it gives both sides of the coin.”

The oh-so-balanced pro-life zone, where those who change their opinion to pro-life go to Heaven and those who remains pro-choice go to Hell. SO. VERY. SUBTLE. that no one will ever guess the filmmaker’s position. Nice kick against horribly depressed and hopeless people who commit suicide as well, only they apparently don’t get a second chance.

 
 

Nice kick against horribly depressed and hopeless people who commit suicide as well, only they apparently don’t get a second chance.

Even Dante’s view of the punishment for suicides was better than this.

 
 

Even Dante’s view of the punishment for suicides was better than this.

Yeah, an eternity of the very thing that drove her to suicide? These guys really think highly of their God, don’t they? I guess it explains why they never thought Abu Ghraib etc were that bad, they considered it God-like behavior.

 
 

“Poor France, where are you headed?”

I don’t know, Chris. But I do know that this is an area where we on the left have a lot of work to do. On one side, you have, say, Edith Piaf and “Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien”; On the other, you have women dressed in burkas head to toe. Narrator: Where do you want France to be in ten years?

As has been the case in America, preserving “the Culture” can win elections.

 
 

These guys really think highly of their God, don’t they?

The ultimate triumph of Lovecraft: the Christianists have converted their god into Chthulu.

 
 

Well, fuck, I actually read Douthat’s “column.”

Where is Dr. Kevorkian now that I need him?

 
 

I don’t know, Chris. But I do know that this is an area where we on the left have a lot of work to do. On one side, you have, say, Edith Piaf and “Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien”; On the other, you have women dressed in burkas head to toe. Narrator: Where do you want France to be in ten years?

Well, the simple scarf that most “covered” Muslim women wear is a far cry from a Saudi burka, and really no different from what was standard Catholic fare fifty years ago. (As for the idea that that, much less the burka, would become a fashion trend or imposed by law in a country like France so that it would become the rule in France within ten years, it’s pretty hysterical).

Yeah, yeah, I know, it still wins elections because stupid voters aren’t an endangered species. Sad, but true.

(Also, just in my opinion, Edith Piaf had one of the ugliest singing voices under the sun. But that’s just me).

 
 

It seems we have killed the thread with absolutely no help from Dr. Kevorkian.

 
 

The problem is that we here tend to be humanists, but this Pope believes there is a tabou structure imposed on all matter and its interactions by its Creator.

So, for example, the question of whether “a penis in an anus” or “marijuana smoke in lungs” is a good, bad, or indifferent thing is a complciated question for us, boiling down to volition of any and all living parties involved, including questions of real consent (‘Does this porn actor/actress have any other skills and/or a decent welfare system?’, ‘Does the person know they’re about to smoke cannabis, and have a reasonable idea of what that might entail?’), and consequences (‘Should dope smokers wear condoms?’, ‘Is it o.k. to drive after anal intercourse?’, or something like that). Complicated.

A tabou structure is simpler: certain types of matter—porn, pork, alcohol, tobacco, firearms, whatever—are inherently tabou, and shouldn’t really even exist. Others are acceptable or good, but only when properly juxtaposed—the Angelic Doctor’s God approves both of pene and ani at rest and when used for their “natural” purposes. Certain actions are “wrong” whether or not there is consent—I don’t know current Church teachings, but I’d guess that their version for lefties might be that you can’t have informed consent for entrance to the Undiscovered Country.

I’m not getting out of the boat: does Don’tDouThat! talk about dual effect?—its being o.k. to give enough morphine to ease pain, even if that can hasten death? If so, it’s a good ‘out’, and I’m glad that ‘good’ Catholics have it in extremis, but let me say that it’s really tricky territory, and fertile ground for hypocrisy.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

It seems we have killed the thread with absolutely no help from Dr. Kevorkian.

He’s really been slacking since his death.

 
 

Shorter Steven Hayward:

Hugh Asks, I Answer: How to Talk About Climate Change on the Campaign Trail

This post is AWESOME, get ready for the ride [Wyld Stallyns guitar noises]!!!! Here are my patented ways to DEMOLISH the global warming pussbags: call them stupid babies. To really twist the knife, call scientists stupid too. Arguing the actual facts is boring and passe.

 
 

tergiversations

what the fuck is a tergiversation?

 
 

Steven Hayward:
This is a long post; better get yourself a cup of coffee. gun and shoot yourself in the head.

 
 

better get yourself a cup of coffee. gun and shoot yourself in the head.

Ross Douchehat would not approve.

 
 

“(Also, just in my opinion, Edith Piaf had one of the ugliest singing voices under the sun. But that’s just me).”

GASP! The horror, the horror.

 
 

what the fuck is a tergiversation?

According to the dictionary at my desk: “1 : evasion of straightforward action or clear-cut statement : EQUIVOCATION 2 : desertion of a cause, position, party or faith”

According to me: a word obscure enough to convince a generic hack he’s an heir to Buckley.

 
 

Even when death is inevitable and inevitably painful, it is not considered merciful to prescribe an overdose to a cancer victim against her will, or to gently smother a sleeping Alzheimer’s patient.

Dropping bombs on them, on the other hand, would be Jesus-approved.

Cutting the programs (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc) would also give pleasure to Republican Corporate Jeebus.

 
 

Yeah, an eternity of the very thing that drove her to suicide? These guys really think highly of their God, don’t they? I guess it explains why they never thought Abu Ghraib etc were that bad, they considered it God-like behavior.

Still, beats spending eternity with Douthat and Buckley, am I right? That guy knows what I’m talking about.

 
 

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