Kansas has issued more state photo IDs than there are people in Kansas

Is this sufficient reason to kick them out of the Union?

The Kansas ID count can’t possibly have anything to do with the fact that people there die and move out of state and stuff either, I suppose.

The Kansas ID count can’t possibly have anything to do with the fact that people there die and move out of state and stuff either, I suppose.

Nonsense. I can’t imagine why anybody would ever want to leave Kansas.

I can’t imagine why anybody would ever want to leave Kansas.

Too true. Cross the wrong bridge and you’re in Misery.

No candidate, Republican or Democrat, wants to emerge from an election with voters suspecting that he didn’t really win.

Oh, I don’t know. My drinking buddy George, whom everyone likes to have a beer with, tells me it’s not quite the handicap you might think.

The Kansas ID count can’t possibly have anything to do with the fact that people there die and move out of state and stuff either, I suppose.

Actually, I read that and just wondered… is he counting people who lose their IDs, have their IDs wear out and become unrecognizable, or whatever?

So . . . nonexistent Kansans vote Democratic?

Shorter Kobag: Non-white, non-Christian people voting, especially if they vote for Demoncrats is illegal and unconstitutional!

I went through the comments in the White Strash Journal piece…they read just like the comments that appear on the climate denial blogs.

Fact-free bloviating about islamunistodemocratokenianistofascists who are taking the country away from them. Bozos !

Wow. That’s some Olympic-caliber dumb.

The monkey on the lectern is smarter than he is.

Nonsense. I can’t imagine why anybody would ever want to leave Kansas.

You obviously have never driven through it.

DAMMIT, vs…we’ve been beaten to the punch

You obviously have never driven through it.

what’s doubly sad is that you have to pay to drive through it…

also, i survived my commute…wasn’t too bad…just have to stop thinking about them…

If you actually look into the claim that nearly 5000 illegal aliens voted in Colorado you will find that it is based on shaky research. Big surprise there.

Rep. Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas) raised doubts about the reporting, noting that the study itself said it was based on inconclusive data and that it was “impossible to provide precise numbers” on how many people who were registered to vote in the state were not citizens.

Gonzalez asked Gessler, a former prosecutor, if he would have pursued a court case on such evidence.

Gessler responded that the goal of the study was to expose voter registration issues and pursue administrative avenues to resolve them.

No candidate, Republican or Democrat, wants to emerge from an election with voters suspecting that he didn’t really win.

Especially not two times in a row. Someone might just question his legitimacy.

Kansas has issued more state photo IDs than there are people in Kansas

to me, this means that somebody is doing their job wrong…it would be irresponsible not to speculate…

also, too, isn’t having to provide a government issued id allowing the government into our lives even more?!?!?

In my Chrome tab, it says the title of this post is “A Scare Raisin.” Combined with shredded Shame Carrots, the beginnings of a good salad.

I suppose this is important enough to the freedom loving Republicans to renew the call for a national ID card.

I suppose this is important enough to the freedom loving Republicans to renew the call for a national ID card

which would be least like:
a)facism
b)nazism
c)socialism
d)big government

Kansas has issued more state photo IDs than there are people in Kansas
Actually, the article points out that there are more state photo IDs than there are people of voting age in Kansas. Which makes perfect sense since census data shows that 25.5% of the Kansas population are not old enough to vote yet.

e) Freedom.

Don’t you know nothing? You have to oppress a few eggs to make a free omelette.

I was thinking to myself, “Self, what the heck good is a photo ID if someone, such as myself, due to military commitments has to vote by absentee? Who is going to look at my ID?” I mean, it is obvious to most that absentee ballots are nearly useless and are almost universally discarded without so much as being opened (unless the race is REALLY close), but just once I would love to have this question asked and make these damn fools finally admit, “Yes, if you vote absentee you are wasting your time.”

That should win a lot of hearts and minds among the military folks.

Don’t you know nothing? You have to oppress a few eggs to make a free omelette.

damn…i forgot…i blame lack of ciggies. also, i forgot to include ‘pie’ as an answer…sheesh…

also, too, isn’t having to provide a government issued id allowing the government into our lives even more?!?!?

NO, just like it’s TOTALLY not intrusive for the government to force you to have a device stuck all up in your lady business before maybe letting you have the abortion you mistakenly think you want. Also panty-sniffing means-testing is not at all intrusive unless we’re talking about corporate welfare in which case it’s totally unfair singling-out class-war success-hating because JOBS.

This asshole has been fucking with the Pancake State for years, and has even let his stupid spill across State Line Road more than once. We would’ve been better off if the world ended on Saturday, quite frankly.

Sadly, most Kansans will have no issues with his push to keep non-whites from voting — after all, most of “Those People” either live in KC (BIG TOWN DARKIES!!) or are migrant farm workers (ILLEGALMESSICANS … [whichwe’reokaywithwhentheypickourlettuce]!!!”). All the rural and/or suburban white folks will think this a grand idea.

also, too, isn’t having to provide a government issued id allowing the government into our lives even more?!?!?

Oh, except if it’s for guns.

Huh. My comment didn’t post. This sucks as I don’t automatically make a copy of it and wait a good long while before reposting it, so all my points are history.

Is it because whoever designed this also included a box for “URI” under the email box? I don’t know any Uris…

Oh, except if it’s for guns.

can you bring your gun to vote with you in ks?

Guns have to go into the booth alone because it’s a SECRET ballot.

Wait, is this tool-box advocating the adoption of the Mark of the Beast as a pre-requisite for voting in Kansas?

I am…. intrigued.

-K

Oh lookie, another non-solution to the non-problem of Voting While Brown.

Meanwhile, Marco Rubio takes to ASW to lie shamlessly.

OT, but I’m proud of my fellow Savannahians. The Fred Phelps folks (3 women and 4 children, apparently all they could muster) showed up to picket a few churches in town yesterday and were met by 200+ people offering free Kool-Ade and carrying signs like “God Hates Figs” and “I missed the Rapture for THIS?” Ridicule. Works every time.

Ok, I will do the math.

According to the 2010 census, there are 2,126,179 Kansans of voting age. According to the Kansas Department of Motor Vehicles, 2,156,446 Kansans already have a driver’s license or a non-driver ID. In other words, there are more photo IDs in circulation than there are eligible voters. The notion that there are hundreds of thousands of voters in Kansas (or any other state) without photo IDs is a myth.

So there are 30,267 more IDs than people of legal voting age. But there are 199,718 more people who are of legal driving age that are not of legal voting age. There’s also 513,561 people who are too young to drive but some of them likely have non-driver ids. So yeah, perhaps there are not hundreds of thousands of voters without ids, but it looks like there’s over 150,000 of them. That’s certainly enough to affect an election outcome.

Unless you are voting Republican DEMOCRACY ITSELF is in jeopardy.

Another noxious emission from my home state.

Great picture. His reptilian nature is well illustrated.

Just got back from my first visit to Beck’s “The Blaze.” They’re running a little non-political story about an amazing photograph:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/guess-what-this-isnt-a-painting-its-a-photograph/

The comments are precious; the photo is functioning like an inkblot test, with each wingnut struggling to make it about proof of God, or Obama, the NEA, etc. Perhaps funniest — the comments faulting The Blaze for a “non-story,” fluff item. The Beck crowd brooks no frivolity, nohow.

I suppose this is important enough to the freedom loving Republicans to renew the call for a national ID card

which would be least like:
a)facism
b)nazism
c)socialism
d)big government

b) nazism, because Nazis were always asking for papers, not cards.

I should have added this to my 17:57 post:
There are 31 states with larger populations than Kansas. If the percentage of people of voting age without IDs is roughly the same in those states then the notion that there are hundreds of thousands of voters in those 31 states without photo IDs is NOT a myth.

Here’s just one comment from another item at The Blaze: I LOL’d:

“There is no place for qweer agenda in schools. Home schooling works. My 4 hetro children would testify to that. Plus they are brilliant when compared to the ***** heads our public schools are graduating these days.”

Hey, whyfor are you maknig fun of Ted sHaggard’s little brother?

Spanking the Monkey

Spanking the Monkey

I don’t get it.

Did anyone brave enough to venture into the comments at ASW notice if any of the geniuses over there realized that the legal voting age and the legal driving age are not the same? Just wondering.

Sub-

I believe the spanking of a monkey may be some kind of euphemism. Don’t know for sure.

Euphemism for what? Criticizing John Podhoretz?

The monkey on the lectern is smarter than he is.

fixxored

Criticizing John Podhoretz.

Wowser. Teh comments. They burn.

So… post-Murdoch, The Wall St. Journal has become The Trailer Park Journal.

Color me shocked.

Spanking larger apes is not recommended. You spank a chimp, a baboon, a bonobo, orangutan, or, heaven forbid, a gorilla and you’re likely to become the spankee.

Home schooling works

So I see.

As if there are scads of poor minorities motivated to vote illegally. Because it’s so fun, profitable and viscerally empowering.
As if people verifiably vote the way you paid them to.
As if voting rolls already don’t over-represent the interests of the wealthy, white and old.
As if there has been even one proven example of major voter fraud.
As if the fewer the voters, the more representative the government.

The people who clutch their pearls over phantom illegal voters are often the same ones who get apoplectic at the thought of a national ID card. Make up your minds, guys.

As if voting rolls already don’t over-represent the interests of the wealthy, white and old.

Don’t forget insane. Wealthy is debatable, but white and crazy seems to win the day in the “Post Racial Era”.

The people who clutch their pearls over phantom illegal voters are often the same ones who get apoplectic at the thought of a national ID card. Make up your minds, guys.

National ID cards are unconsitushal because States’ Rights! but states should force all voters to submit to ID, fingerprint and body cavity searches because ACORN!

HTH

Also, there should be a federal law forcing states to perform the above-mentioned voter checks because THIS IS IMPORTANT, PEOPLE!

You spank a chimp, a baboon, a bonobo, orangutan, or, heaven forbid, a gorilla and you’re likely to become the spankee.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

Well, after doing all the math I thought I’d go over and post it at WSJ. I jumped through all the hoops to register there and then entered my comment. It told me I had to become a member to comment which is apparently different from simply registering, so I click ok, make me a member. Then it just sent me to a page that said “sorry, we are inable to post your comment at this time.” That’s one effective librul filter they got there.

Shorter Kris “the Kobagh” Kobach, White Street Journal

Stupidity is contagious.

‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

It’s not so much the vindictive spanking, but the punitive ripping-of-arms-out-of-socket that’s the real bummer.
.

C’mon people! Everybody knows that you shock the monkey.

Oh FUCK you

punitive ripping-of-arms-out-of-socket

Hott!

“smedley said,
May 23, 2011 at 18:57

Spanking larger apes is not recommended. You spank a chimp, a baboon, a bonobo, orangutan, or, heaven forbid, a gorilla and you’re likely to become the spankee.”

Or face-ripee.

And, you really don’t want to know what a bonobo spanks you with……………..well, some of you might.

To be fair, Newt really isn’t a Washington figure. More of a Pilsbury Dough Boy figure.

If homo sapiens shared more genes with the bonobos than the chimps there would be no Republicans. No locks on the doors. No crotches on panties. And everybody would wear panties.

You spank a chimp, a baboon, a bonobo, orangutan, or, heaven forbid, a gorilla

How could you leave out mandrills? Talk about an easy laugh.

Oh FUCK you

—

“I don’t think either party should impose a proposal or theory against the will of the American people,” Gingrich said. “If something is profoundly unpopular and very large, should the Republicans pass it?”

With a rusty Garden Weasel.

I don’t even know where to start.

How could you leave out mandrills? Talk about an easy laugh.

Why would you laugh at Barbara? Or want to spank her? What? Oh… never mind…

Louise was always my favorite. What? I used to watch it with my grandmother.

“If something is profoundly unpopular and very large, should the Republicans pass it?”

well, if it’s a kidney stone, then hell, yes. 5 times a day.

How could you leave out mandrills? Talk about an easy laugh.

Mandrill is a Marvel supervillain with sex-powers.

With a rusty Garden Weasel.

I swear these fucking assholes could teach Will Ferrell a thing or two about deadpan delivery of laughable bullshit.

Good lord. “I’m not a Washington figure” from the guy who invented the modern Republican party. I’m not saying the Dems aren’t corrupt, but holy shit, these fuckers have absolutely no shame whatsoever.

but holy shit, these fuckers have absolutely no shame whatsoever.

from newt’s wiki:

“He continues to write works related to government and other subjects, such as historical fiction…”

This is fun:

Pawlenty campaign story in obituary page

Newt is an educated man–despite all the dumb shit that comes out of his mouth.

Now I guess I’m naive in thinking that a guy like this would build this empire, watch it turn into neo-fascist piece of shit it is today, would moderate to some degree. He just gets more and more insane.

I guess the guys who are sort of moderate types (like a Bob Dole, maybe), just fade away and try to avoid being part of the circus.

If Bob Dole was alive today, he would put these teabaggers in their place. What? He is? Ohwellnevermind.

Maybe mandrills spank each other when humans aren’t looking.

Maybe mandrills spank each other when humans aren’t looking.

Like the status of the light in the refrigerator when the door is closed, we are not likely to ever solve this mystery.

Actually, the article points out that there are more state photo IDs than there are people of voting age in Kansas.

Especially since you can get your learner’s permit at 14 there.

You know who else didn’t have a birth certificate, right?

What is the Doctor doing on the dictionary’s definition of grandma?

Mandrill is a Marvel supervillain with sex-powers.

I resent Wikipedia using a page from my autobiography for this description of this fictional character.

Isn’t it possible for people to have more than one state-issued photo id? Like a driver’s license and a student id or an ID for a state employee??

Isn’t it possible for people to have more than one state-issued photo id? Like a driver’s license and a student id or an ID for a state employee??

If sates attorneys like Kris Kobach are incapable of preventing or prosecuting people who are fraudulently registering to vote, what would lead anyone to believe they would be any more capable of preventing or prosecuting people fraudulently getting photo IDs.

Meanwhile, WTF Tennessee?

Newt’s shamelessness has nothing to do with level of education, intellect, or sanity, and everything to do with sociopathy.

He lies to get what he wants. Whether or not it damages other people or the process or anything else doesn’t enter into it.

Newt is an educated man–despite all the dumb shit that comes out of his mouth.

Now I guess I’m naive in thinking that a guy like this would build this empire, watch it turn into neo-fascist piece of shit it is today, would moderate to some degree. He just gets more and more insane.

Oddly, he’s being crucified right now because he accurately stated that the American people did not want the Ryan plan and were not any more receptive to right wing “social engineering” than the left wing kind.

Of all the mistakes Newt’s made, the one that might be the final nail in his coffin was the one time he told the truth.

Of all the mistakes Newt’s made, the one that might be the final nail in his coffin was the one time he told the truth.

I didn’t know such intense irony existed. You can’t make this stuff up.

I think we ought to find some Republican patsy to introduce a bill requiring all registered voters to get scannable barcode tattoos proving their legal voting status.

Then go stir up the fundies with a bunch of “Mark of the Beast” fears.

@ Pupienus Maximus

What the fuck? I don’t even–

Even ignoring the bass-ackwards idea that gay men are pedophiles, why are they showing a situation of a man raping a girl to attack gays?”Does gender matter to you?”? What does that situation have to do with gender?

Oh, never mind.

Jon Stewert’ luls about the Gingrich campaign.
http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2011/05/jon_stewart_on_newts_first_wee.php#more

I didn’t know such intense irony existed. You can’t make this stuff up.

It’s more of a commentary on the GOP than it is on Newt. A party where you can literally claim that gayness is why men rape girls, but you can’t tell the truth even when the poll numbers are staring you right in the face.

Neo Fascism.

Yeah, I fucking said it.

If anyone calls Godwin on me, I will have them exterminated.

Then go stir up the fundies with a bunch of “Mark of the Beast” fears.

I’ve heard just about enough from those pricks and their musings on solutions to the “muslim problem”.

The irony is that is was Newt who was one of the first to use teabag tactics against democrats and was a leader in creating this republican Frankenstein monster. Call your opponent a traiter, un-American, socialist, immoral and so on. Now his monster is turning on him. Newt fucking Gingrich is too liberal!!! Hoisted on your own petard asshole, how’s it feel Newtie?

Just outside Family Radio HQ: http://www.flickr.com/photos/flufflebuns/5748884345/in/set-72157626783774206/

Full report here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/hi3p5/i_was_at_the_familyradio_headquarters_in_oakland/

He lies to get what he wants. Whether or not it damages other people or the process or anything else doesn’t enter into it.

What was the bit about when he was trying to crucify Clinton? His, I think, then-mistress recalled some conversation about what they were doing being as wrong. His reply was to the effect of “It doesn’t matter what I do.”

cobag

Just outside Family Radio HQ:

I like that it’s next door to a palm reader.

Apropos, somehow.

100!

The Clinton impeachment hipocrite was Larry Craig.

Calling the president a “naughty boy” in his most seductive and enticing tone. Super sexy, that one.

the best one, I should say…

Ugh. It is one unlucky gay toe-tapper who has to run into THAT guy in an airport restroom.

Kris Kobach needs moar clown make-up.

Ugh. It is one unlucky gay toe-tapper who has to run into THAT guy in an airport restroom.

This is a mystery to me. Seems like there are far higher percentage venues for picking up gay men than an airport bathroom. Seems like a critical piece of this story is missing.

Calling the president a “naughty boy” in his most seductive and enticing tone. Super sexy, that one.

Yeah, he really wanted to be in Monica’s place in that whole kerfuffle.

This is a mystery to me. Seems like there are far higher percentage venues for picking up gay men than an airport bathroom. Seems like a critical piece of this story is missing.

He probably thought to himself that, if he were hooking up anonymously in a seedy setting that he wasn’t really “gay”. Love the sin, hate the sinner.

the best one, I should say…

I was going to go with “all of em, Katie!”

Don’t forget that Diaper Dave Vitter and Pedobear Mark Foley were also Clinton impeachment moral scolds.
~

As was hiking enthusiast Mark Sandford!

Loving the sin.

Mandrill is also a funk band formed in Brooklyn.

http://www.mandrillis.com/web/index.html

I used to see their LPs in bins and wonder why a group of black guys would name themselves after a type of monkey. But hey, they’re cooler than me.

Pedophile, pedobear–these are criminals, not mere philanderers. So Foley would have to be counted the worst, but the comparison isn’t exactly there. Foley is a rapist.

Vitter, on the other hand…wow. Diapers, hookers? AND FINGERPOINTING? I don’t think so, son.

I hope these wives get plenty of cougar action of their own on the side.

I was going to go with “all of em, Katie!”

Did tsam say it was okay for you to reveal his sekrit identity?

Great name, btw.

Slightly related: is anyone else perturbed by the media pairing the Schwarzenegger story with the Strauss-Kahn case? As far as I can tell, Schwarzenegger’s affair was consensual and shit, even if she was a household employee. (Why does Chrome recognize “Schwarzenegger”? That pisses me off).

A party where…you can’t tell the truth even when because the poll numbers are staring you right in the face.

FTFY

As far as I can tell, Schwarzenegger’s affair was consensual and shit, even if she was a household employee.

The linkage is bullshit in that specific sense, but were he some nobody Mr. Grabby Grab might have found himself arrested as a sex offender for other hijinx. Here’s hoping Arnold gets tarred more than the DSK case gets immunized.

“Slightly related: is anyone else perturbed by the media pairing the Schwarzenegger story with the Strauss-Kahn case?”

Remember the Mike Tyson rape case? I recall the bitching about everyone running the story in the sports section. Best comment was: If Julia Child were arrested for cannibalism would you run it in the food section?

If Julia Child were arrested for cannibalism would you run it in the food section?

Human Interest Section?

but were he some nobody Mr. Grabby Grab might have found himself arrested as a sex offender for other hijinx.

Oh, sure, there’s no doubt it my mind that dude’s a sexual offender. He’s creepy and disgusting.

Remember the Mike Tyson rape case? I recall the bitching about everyone running the story in the sports section.

Honestly, I’m not sure I knew about it at the time, so I don’t remember the coverage, but discussing sexual assault tends to bring out the douchery in a lot of people.

If Julia Child were arrested for cannibalism would you run it in the food section?

Only if you include a recipe!

Only if you include a recipe!

And a nice Chianti!

If Julia Child were arrested for cannibalism would you run it in the food section?

If she gave her recipe for human flesh, yes.

D’oh! Must refresh more often.

Look, Subbie is creepy and disgusting but that doesn’t make him a sex offender.

D’oh! Must refresh more often.

Cannibals would prefer “reflesh.”

But I digress.

And a nice Chianti!

Depends on the recipe. I find that gewürztraminers pair best with babies.

Digressing the Looch.

Look, Subbie is creepy and disgusting but that doesn’t make him a sex offender.

Darn tootin’!

Pairing the babies.

No, but using the phrase “darn tootin’!” does.

T&U –

Just making sure: you’re in the part of MO that isn’t on it’s way to the stratosphere?

I’m good! I did grow up about an hour from Joplin (on the Kansas side), and I have relatives who live down there, so it’s upset me a little.

Depends on the recipe. I find that gewürztraminers pair best with babies.

Brine them first. With lots of ginger.

T&U–Ouch! Hope they’re OK.

TruculentandUnreliable said,

I’m good! I did grow up

[citation needed]

I’m good! I did grow up

[citation needed]

HAHA BURN

Poop and other such nonsense and whatnot.

Mandrill is a Marvel supervillain with sex-powers.

The Wikipedia entry says though he plotted and did dialogue for Mandrill’s debut, Steve “Howard The Duck” Gerber wouldn’t claim creation rights. Study on that. How’d that thought process go? “A monkey with super raping powers? No thanks.”

Hey, give all the Canuckistanis a break, they’re having a day off & the ones here must lead some pretty empty lives. (Not nearly as empty as mine, mind you.)

TruculentandUnreliable said,

May 24, 2011 at 0:14

And a nice Chianti!

Depends on the recipe. I find that gewürztraminers pair best with babies.

I simply must object: Chianti or even a nice Cabernet is quite pleasant with the swarthy babies. Strong dark and/or hoppy beers pair well with them also too.

The Wikipedia entry says though he plotted and did dialogue for Mandrill’s debut, Steve “Howard The Duck” Gerber wouldn’t claim creation rights. Study on that. How’d that thought process go? “A monkey with super raping powers? No thanks.”

This is why we must keep a close eye on those comic geeks. Too much basement time can send things flying sideways.

“A monkey with super raping powers? No thanks.”

Don’t make me re-post one of those “duck sex” videos!

Ok, I won’t make you. But a friend is asking…

“In at least one instance, the Mandrill used technological means to alter and augment his power so that the sight of him mesmerized the male Thing.”–Wikipedia

I infer that he stopped short of rape in this instance.

Don’t make me re-post one of those “duck sex” videos!

This?

The much-vaunted Internizzle is unforthcoming with images of Gregor the Purple-Assed Baboon, and I can’t be arsed scanning one myself.

Perhaps Substance has suitable files.

Hey, give all the Canuckistanis a break, they’re having a day off & the ones here must lead some pretty empty lives.

Darn tootin’!

A SCARE RAISIN, peoples!
.

A SCARE RAISIN

Not quite a raisin fret, eh?

Not quite a raisin fret, eh?

‘Tis what I see in my Chrome tab: “Sadly, No! >> A Scare Raisin…”
.

A SCARE RAISIN, peoples!

these raisins?

Hey, give all the Canuckistanis a break, they’re having a day off & the ones here must lead some pretty empty lives.

i’ve always wondered…how does one spend ‘victoria day’?

Not quite a raisin fret, eh?

‘Tis a tepidly moronic play on words.

these raisins?

Those are now “‘Chair Raisins,” as in “wheelchair.”
.

And a tag fail, too.

The Cali Raisins always gave me a raisin d’et.

(All week, waitress, etc.)

i’ve always wondered…how does one spend ‘victoria day’?

Getting foreigners to enslave each other.

Getting foreigners to enslave each other.

DSK just got a hard-on and doesn’t know why.

Sir John Lithgow’s verbatim reading of the \_EPIC_/ Gingrich press-release is making me cry.

Obama appointed Lithgow as Sir John General? Who knew?

Sir John Lithgow’s verbatim reading of the \_EPIC_/ Gingrich press-release is making me cry.

Lithgow was amazing.

The press release is a raisin nyet.

Veal. Try it.

Or the baby.

Free range.

[citation needed]

Well, I got taller. That counts, right?

i’ve always wondered…how does one spend ‘victoria day’?

The same way one spends “One Night in Paris”?

Obama appointed Lithgow as Sir John General? Who knew?

Sir John General Czar.

Digesting the trope.
Assessing the mutation.
Swinging the whiff.
Winning the crystal golem.
Ringing the wobbegong.
Annoying the sawtooth eel.
Guessing the alliance.

Masturbating.

You don’t have enough tabs open until YouTub & AssPress appear.

You don’t have enough tabs open until YouTub & AssPress appear.

Four or five is really about all the hamsters can handle.
.

You don’t have enough tabs open until YouTub & AssPress appear.

We Don’t Want the Irish!
~

You know WHO ELSE had a fried chicken franchise?.

Masturbating.

Oh fine. Spike the trope.
.
.
.
.
.
Spiking the trope.

POOP.

POOP.

Kids call that a poopy-head.

Right, T&U?

The same way one spends “One Night in Paris”?
Which is like a year in any other place.

The same way one spends “One Night in Paris”?

Paris Hilton? Scratching and calling the pharmacy for unguent via messenger, I suspect.

Right, T&U?

Man, I was just putting together a post about how kids today need to get off my lawn, but I guess I’m just too young to be taken seriously and too old to sell my ova. Sucks.

calling the pharmacy for unguent via messenger

They have pills for that these days, you know. Of course, old-timey pharmacies have sodas and shit. I’d trade, but then again, I don’t have herpes, either.

I am sure you all were wondering.

Hey guys! We laughed and pointed too soon! It looks like we’ve only got till October!

The burning question is, how many millions of $ and how many poor gullible fucks will get sucked in _yet again_. Srsly, there otta be a law.

I was pissed, once again, at Barbara Bradley Haggerty when she did her judgment day thing on NPR Saturday. She leads in with “it’s safe to assume the rapture has been postponed…”

Yer killin me here Babs. Bitch has an agenda, I’m tellin ya.

Pupe has fast fingers.

But smart thoughts.

You know what they say: “Fool me once…shame on–shame on you. Fool me and you won’t get fooled again!”

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucck. Fucking f00l.

> i’ve always wondered…how does one spend ‘victoria day’?

It is generally referred to as the ‘May Two-Four’ weekend.

Both because May 24th is the official date and because a case of beer is called a Two-Four…. because it starts with 24 beer in it.

On an unrelated note, my head hurts…

-K

I was pissed, once again, at Barbara Bradley Haggerty when she did her judgment day thing on NPR Saturday.

I was pissed that it got any coverage at ALL. I found it dumb and embarrassing.

October 21.

That is simply the wrong day in October for these kinds of shenanigans.

You mean Trafalgar Day would be more appropriate?

Smut Clyde said,

May 24, 2011 at 2:50 (kill)

The same way one spends “One Night in Paris”?
Which is like a year in any other place.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

…and out of my music collection.

Day 5 cigarette free, peeps. I’m not loving it, yet, anyway, though still have had no breakdowns, crying jags or homicides. But I’ve made it far enough that I know I’m not going to go back. Sat down and figured out what I had been spending on cigarettes every day and put up a note on the fridge…each day I write down how much I saved by not buying ciggies, and add it to the running total. That in itself will be enough to keep me from ever buying another pack again. How’s it going for all the rest of you quitters?

I’ve made it far enough that I know I’m not going to go back.

Attagirl. Props to all of you who are quitting.

And as bbkf reminds us, every dollar you don’t spend on a pack of butts is one less dollar in the hands of the Tobacco Lobby.

Meanwhile, Marco Rubio takes to ASW to lie shamlessly.

no surprise there, but has anyone noticed the anti-spam catchphrases over there, the 1st one was “Eye Watering”, the 2nd; “Hot Tomato”…. sounds like Johan and K-Lo’s ‘safe words’ are spilling over into the website!

this is too much fun, now its; ‘lardy-dardy’ !!!???

shit, did i’s kill teh thread!!!

Nazis were always asking for papers, not cards.

Ah, non, mon ami Xecky. The Nazis had zillions of cards, and they had to get them from somewhere…

All this GOP whining about “Ineligible and Multiple voting” voter fraud is a dead give away the stuffing of ballot boxes in Republican districts just ain’t giving the margins it used too.

Republicans are just jealous of the ease with which Democratic women vote multiple times.

Psst….TinTin…note to self…it’s “choke the chicken, spank the monkey”…

Wax on, Wax off

All this GOP whining about “Ineligible and Multiple voting” voter fraud is a dead give away the stuffing of ballot boxes in Republican districts just ain’t giving the margins it used too.

Republicans don’t stuff ballot boxes, they take away votes.

It’s weird, but yep, Republican voter fraud (the purge of black Florida voters in 2000, the attacks on ACORN and other registering-poor-people-to-vote groups, the calls to strip away the citizenship of people who were born here) always seems to involve depriving people of the vote. It’s Democrats who stereotypically are the ones who extend the vote to those who shouldn’t have it (a.k.a. ballot stuffing), Chicago Graveyards for Daley style.

Unbelievably, we can’t even get away from our basic instincts when we’re both cheating.

Ringing the wobbegong.

best euphemism ever.

It’s weird, but yep, Republican voter fraud…always seems to involve depriving people of the vote.

You forgot; Sideshow Bob (Republican) had dead people voting for him. And not zombie dead – dead dead.

Jesus, learn some history.

The burning question is, how many millions of $ and how many poor gullible fucks will get sucked in _yet again_. Srsly, there otta be a law.

There is–Rico, racketeering…

Day 5 cigarette free, peeps. I’m not loving it, yet, anyway

Well done! Yesterday 144 years 2 weeks for me. I’m feeling pretty damn good at this point. I’m proud of myself, and don’t ever want to smoke again.

This time is different from all the others. The difference is hard to explain, but I’m going to make it.

It is generally referred to as the ‘May Two-Four’ weekend.

Victoria Day is usually celebrated with the time honoured tradition of getting shit-faced and then playing around with fireworks. Folks with cottages however, spend Victoria Day sitting in their cars yelling at the kids to be quiet and staring at a couple hundred kilometers of stalled tailights. Good times.

Soon I will start to feign coughing when I’m around cigarette smoke and remind everyone of just how bad the habit is. I’m going to become very condescending and sanctimonious about the whole thing.

Jennifer and tsam: Congratulations! And keep going! You can do this. I’ve been smoke-free long enough now to be unable to remember the actual date of quitting, but it’s been more than 25 years. And I don’t miss cigarettes one bit! My lungs are now as pink and clean as when I was young; I can climb stairs without gasping; I no longer cough when trying to carry on a conversation; my thinking is clearer and more creative then ever before. Trust me, you will find that live is ever so much better (even as we are living in hell…) without The Devil’s Weed. It can be terrible addiction to overcome (I do believe it is harder to overcome than heroin) but you can do it. I have faith in you!

ACLU scholars discover Cost-Benefit Amendment to US Constitution.

The Nazis had zillions of cards, and they had to get them from somewhere…

Holy shit, I had no idea.

Growing up, both of my parents smoked. I am the only non-smoker at my poker games. I take “smoke breaks” with co-workers. I am very nearly a pack-a-day second-hand smoker.

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge said,

May 24, 2011 at 3:17

Hey guys! We laughed and pointed too soon! It looks like we’ve only got till October!

I always hoped such rapture idiots would live around. I’d draw up papers where they agree to hand over all their worthly possessions to me two or three days after the apocalypse date of the current week.
And have a camera handy asking them “if you are sure rapture will come, why won’t you sign this? You won’t need this stuff after rapture right?”

Either they sign to give you something for free, or you getvideo proof of them not really agreeing to, since they know world is not going to end and they still need work the next day.

SOMEONE IN THE REGION DO THIS BEFORE THE NEXT DUE DATE (which is in october I think).

tsam – that’s one thing I will NOT be doing. As glad as I am to finally be free of the habit (or at least to be getting free…the habit is still hard-wired in at this point; what has changed is my willingness to give into it by buying or bumming smokes), rudeness to people with the habit seems to be encouraged these days. Is it a threat to my health to walk past someone smoking a cigarette? No, or at least certainly not any more than it’s a threat to my health to breathe while standing beside a busy roadway. The jihad against smokers is fucking RIDICULOUS; it’s become little more than a socially-acceptable excuse for people to be assholes to a certain subset of people. New York now has a “you can’t smoke in the park” law. Seriously? Fucking seriously? Whatever reasons there might be for not wanting people to smoke in the park (many smokers are not polite in the disposal of their spent butts – I was never one of those but there are a lot of them around), let’s not kid ourselves that fucking OUTDOOR prohibitions against smoking have ANYTHING to do with the health of non-smokers. They just don’t. Yeah, I get it – people don’t like the smell of cigarette smoke. But guess what? I don’t like the smell of farts, or AXE body spray, or fabric softener, or any number of things that other people choose voluntarily to inflict upon me. Where’s my fucking law against that? Those things affect my “health” every bit as much as breathing in someone else’s second-hand smoke for one or two seconds as we pass on the sidewalk, which is to say, it’s not a health concern at all but just something I’d rather not smell. But I’ve never felt like that gave me license to berate anyone over how bad their AXE body spray smells, because you know…that would be RUDE.

Enough of this encouraging the public to be the “enforcers;” if government is REALLY convinced that second-hand smoke is so much of a health hazard that it smoking must be banned outdoors as well as in, then fucking make smoking illegal and be done with it.

The first time this clown predicted the rapture was in the mid ’90s. next, last Saturday, then October. don’t you see? its a decreasing series! we need someone who knows calculus* to find the limit of this decreasing series and tell us the actual date of the rapture!

*after those two embarrassingly bad semesters in college, it can be safely said that this hypothetical calculus-knowing person is not me.

Dint realize there was a noo thread. Left three comments at the very end of the last one: Solidarity with the new ex-smokers … best wishes for VS & Dudeskull … appreciation for TinTin.

Now I gotta chop into this one….

tsam – that’s one thing I will NOT be doing

I was only joking–because I despised those assholes myself.

I think that comparing the smell of second hand smoke to deodorant or farts or whatever is disingenuous at best. If I’m having a picnic with my family in the park and some asshole smoker decides to sit 20 feet upwind of me then we can pretty much consider our lunch ruined. That same asshole would have to be either spraying or wearing a lot of AXE for the same effect.

Cumulative exposure to second hand smoke is dangerous, so even if my son only has to experience it for a few seconds at a time, over time it will have an effect.

Glad to hear it tsam.

I remember one time, after dining in a restaurant, I stepped outside and well away from the entrance to enjoy a smoke…only to have some asshole start needling me as he came out and headed to his car. First I said, “Look, you’ve got all the indoors to yourself now; and yet you have to come out here and start hassling ME when I’ve done everything necessary to keep my offensive habit away from you? I’m not the one being a jerk here.” He started to go on about what a bad habit smoking is; I said, “yes, it is…but rudeness is worse one, and you don’t have the excuse of addiction for YOUR behavoir.” His girlfriend started laughing at him then. He went red in the face and shut up.

I can imagine in the future that I’ll continue to interject myself into these types of exchanges, because the anti-smoking scolds are some of the biggest bullies around – people who would be too cowardly to stand up to someone spouting racist or homophobic garbage but who feel emboldened by society’s increasingly disdainful attitude towards smokers and are eager to avail themselves of the opportunity it presents them to get away with acting like an asshole to a complete stranger.

Jennifer,

Second-hand smoke has a significantly higher health impact then you might think. Also the issue, of course, isn’t with the single episode but with repeated exposures. i.e. for consistency’s sake, I have to AHEM *cough* *cough* *evil glare* that one person smoking in a verbotten place in order to justify doing so to the next and the next and the next.

re: AXE body spray. Us nanny-state socialsists are already moving in that direction. Eleven years ago, Halifax banned perfumes from public buildings and facilities, including buses. Here in LEAFS SUCK, we’ve got a couple hospitals and the downtown university with official scent-free policies. And while these aren’t actual laws (well Halifax has an official by-law, but I don’t remember what the penalties are) they are the first step. It’s an incremental thing – secondhand smoke affects a larger slice of the public than those with MCS or other reasonable objections to fragrances.

Jihad – the cumulative effect you speak of from outdoor exposure to second-hand smoke is specious at best, particularly if you live in any location with vehicular traffic…and I assume you do.

This is what drives me nuts about the anti-smoking Nazis – this insistence on claiming that things they don’t like are harming them, while blithely ignoring other things which actually have a measurable harmful impact simply because they don’t have a personal animus towards THOSE things.

It’s not honest.

…but rudeness is worse one, and you don’t have the excuse of addiction for YOUR behavoir…

a mirror : look in one.

I always enjoyed it when some young woman would scrunch up her nose and say “eeew kissing a smoker is like licking a dirty ashtray,” I enjoyed because I could respond “what’s it like to kiss a smoker’s ass?”

Kiss my ass WP.

It’s easier to get mad at smokers than idling drivers because nobody needs a cigarette to get around.

D-KW – as I said, I completely understand you not LIKING the smell of smoke. If someone is smoking in an area where it’s not permitted, I don’t consider pointing out that fact to them to be an issue. I also think it’s a good thing that smoking has been banned from workplaces and most indoor public places.

What I DON’T think is a good thing is to encourage the public to pile on to people who are not doing anything illegal, and yes, there’s a lot of that around. Just fucking outlaw it and be done with it if that’s the way it’s going to be.

No, jihad, the victim card does not play here.

Self, what the heck good is a photo ID if someone, such as myself, due to military commitments has to vote by absentee?

Sir Craig, sir! I remember casting an absentee ballot in Augsburg in the 1976 election. I voted for Gene McCarthy. It was a Kansas ballot. (See how this all ties together with topic somehow?)

Went to HS is Lawrence, worked as DJ in southeastern Kansas ma-and-pa radio stations. Also, T&U lived in Kansas, went to KU. Plus my step-sisters live there.

So don’t be hatin’ on Kansas. Just on the many idjits who live there. Like, for example, the Kansas Board of Education, Sam Brownbeck, Todd Tiahrt, and the Voter-ID clown with his arms wrapped around a monkey.

You know what I miss most about Kansas? Terrific skies. Wall-to-wall tunderstorms approaching across the wide, wide horizon, piled up so high the jet-stream sheers the tops into into anvils; the sheet lightning and fork lightning pulsing and flashing everywhere inside dark, dark, dark clouds; the rising wind and blast of ozone immediately before the wall of rain arrives.

Lot to be said for Kansas.

Jihad – fuck you. You’re going to equate my smoking a cigarette on the OPPOSITE FUCKING SIDE OF A PARKING LOT as rudeness equivalent to some fucking SUV penis-extending driving ASSHOLE shouting out his disapproval of the actions of a COMPLETE STRANGER nowhere near his space?

Like I said, fuck you.

Wuups. The direct address to Sir Craig was only the first two sentences. The last four paras were for the Sadlies at large.

Jihad – fuck you. You’re going to equate my smoking a cigarette on the OPPOSITE FUCKING SIDE OF A PARKING LOT

You don’t smoke! Let those other Republican-supporting smokers take the heat.

Subby – I don’t smoke, but that doesn’t mean I have to pretend that someone being a dishonest jerk isn’t being a dishonest jerk.

Wow–I poked a nerve, didn’t I?

I don’t like those pricks either. I thought it was a GOOD thing that Washington banned smoking indoors–even in bars, but when we were outside smoking, non smokers could go ahead and shut the fuck up.

People didn’t say much to me–I can appear very intimidating when I want to (and sometimes when I don’t). Some menacing eye contact usually makes people think twice about running their fool mouths.

FYWP

and wow, I touched a nerve, didn’t I?

I don’t like those pricks anymore than you do, Jennifer. Thing is, I can appear to be very intimidating when I want to (and sometimes even when I don’t want to), so people rarely said anything to me.

I was glad when they banned indoor smoking, I think that’s a good thing, especially for the people who work in those places and sometimes don’t have a choice in the matter, but people who bitch about catching a whiff of smoke outside can go ahead and STFU.

I make made an effort to be polite. I expect the same from others.

If second hand smoke is a known carcinogen and I’m inhaling it then I’m playing the victim card.

The second-hand smoke thing is obviously pretty dubious when you’re 20 feet away in open air, but it is stinky and no fun when you wanna taste your food. Smoking is, um, like, uh, riding a really loud motorcycle? RUNNING!

Jihad – why not play it against diesel exhaust, then? What, truckers don’t present as easy a target?

BTW, sorry I embarrassed you in front of your girlfriend that time you tried to get all up in my business in the parking lot.

Actually, no. No, I’m not sorry.

It’s almost as if you don’t realize that living in a place like LA or Houston is the equivalent of smoking a pack a day. Known carcinogens – you’re soaking in them.

It’s almost as if you don’t realize that living in a place like LA or Houston is the equivalent of smoking a pack a day.

What if I do realize that? Can I be against both?

Being downstream from someone smoking a cigarette isn’t remotely close to being downstream of someone who just cut the cheese.

Well, princess, if someone smoking a cigarette 20 feet away from you in the wide open outdoors is that much of a problem for you, you could always step to the left or right, or better yet, stay home where you can dictate everything that goes on around you. That’s a lot more logical than expecting the entire world to rotate around you and your specific desires and wants.

“yes, it is…but rudeness is worse one, and you don’t have the excuse of addiction for YOUR behavoir.”

Also, this is badass.

The only confrontation I remember having involved me taking a step toward this prick and and saying “fuck you”. He scurried off, not really wanting to see where it was going from there.

Jihad, please do not try to force your Shania Law down our throats.

The smoking in public parks ban thingy is of course not about exposure to health risk. Unless there are people who habitually go to the park and are there on a regular basis for a significant period of time. And while there are some people like that, they have opted in for that behaviour when public park smoking wasn’t banned.

Then again, we also ban certain types of behaviour in public parks with no adverse health effects on others – as many a ghey-sex trolling conservative will attest.

I understand your point though, smokers are viewed as contagion infested monsters. I have to admit that I generally think of this as a positive thing – but certainly the scope of it is out of any reasonable sense of proportion. Smokers are reviled, from my perspective up here in LEAFS SUCK, as much as people who drive drunk. That’s not a reasonable level of shunning*.

*Although as a nanny-state leftsist commie I’d like this fixed by increasing public disdain for drunk drivers.

You ever have one of those days when everybody seems to getting on your case from Jihad on down to your best girlfriend?
Jihad don’t you fill me up with your rules, everybody knows that smokin’ ain’t allowed in school.

“Being downstream from someone smoking a cigarette isn’t remotely close to being downstream of someone who just cut the cheese.”

You need to back up that claim with solid scientific research. I’m making egg salad for lunch. Let’s get together.

I can imagine in the future that I’ll continue to interject myself into these types of exchanges, because the anti-smoking scolds are some of the biggest bullies around – people who would be too cowardly to stand up to someone spouting racist or homophobic garbage but who feel emboldened by society’s increasingly disdainful attitude towards smokers and are eager to avail themselves of the opportunity it presents them to get away with acting like an asshole to a complete stranger.

We shall overcome, arc of history bending towards justice, etc.

Well, princess, if someone smoking a cigarette 20 feet away from you in the wide open outdoors is that much of a problem for you, you could always step to the left or right

This is the free ride that smokers don’t have any more, which is good. If I’m having a picnic in the park and a smoker sits near me and lights up I’m gonna ask them to move: they are, after all, fucking up my good time to get theirs. Most smokers are pretty understanding if you’re nice about it.

tsam – I only remember a couple of confrontations like this over all the years I smoked. I did occasionally have someone say “would you please not smoke close by because I’m allergic” or something of the type and of course had no problem honoring those requests. I was a very polite smoker – never threw butts out the window or on the ground, never smoked where I wasn’t supposed to, etc etc. But folks who acted like Jihad had here made me want to light up an entire pack all at once just so I could blow it in their faces.

Subby – I’m down with that. The situation would be different, though, if you came and plopped yourself down in close proximity to someone who already had one burning. Which is the situation I described above. If you show up after the smoker, it’s you who are fucking up their good time to get yours.

But folks who acted like Jihad had here made me want to light up an entire pack all at once just so I could blow it in their faces.

I hear ya. I generally avoided confrontation by avoiding people. And if someone asked–and was sincerely nice about it, it almost became an honor to respect the request.

Being snotty, sneery, condescending, etc–bad move. I don’t like that bullshit in any context, and those who act that way should not expect it to go unanswered.

I think this goes here.

Jihad’s on the internet being a troll: most people are quite a bit more reasonable in their daily interactions otherwise there’d be a lot more punching.

Could jihad really be tintin?

A HA! This time we believe you!

Soon I will start to feign coughing when I’m around cigarette smoke and remind everyone of just how bad the habit is. I’m going to become very condescending and sanctimonious about the whole thing.

I hope not. I’m never going to do that as an ex-smoker. I hated that sort of shit when I smoked. It was especially infuriating when some ex-smoker did it. I’m sure as hell not going to do that to other people.

Solidarity, comrades in the struggle.

ACLU scholars discover Cost-Benefit Amendment to US Constitution

This came as a shock.

They also keep it secret because of that whole sketchy weird 4th Amendment gray area business which makes catching drug dealers terrorists really really hard.

Righteous rant, Jennifer!

Amen, sister.

Gotta love Purity Crusaders. Now that you’ve got the outside smokers on the run, aren’t there some fat people you could shame, like Jennifer Love Hewitt?

Heavy smokers in public should NOT be tolerated

PLEASE CALIBRATE YOUR SNARK DETECTORS.

Thank you.

I hope not. I’m never going to do that as an ex-smoker. I hated that sort of shit when I smoked. It was especially infuriating when some ex-smoker did it. I’m sure as hell not going to do that to other people.

See previous comment.

Nice link, Thread Bear. </blogwhore>

Of course, if the heavy farters and the heavy smokers are in close proximity, the resulting explosions could be a threat to public safety.

Also: threatening pubic safety.

Teh one @ 16:50 that is.

if the heavy farters and the heavy smokers are in close proximity

Weather issues in the Midwest explained.

“Weather issues in the Midwest explained.”

Now, that was funny.

Calibrating the detector

Ok, not to be in poor taste, but…maybe the Rupture just happened a day late, and only in Joplin, MO. Lots of stuff there got “snatched up”.

Seriously though…how horrible. It’s been many years since I passed through Joplin but looks as though there’s little of it left now. The one woman they interviewed who talked about her two Eagle Scout sons going to try to help people as soon as the storm passed…and coming back with dead children in their arms. I’m still not one to get too worked up over tornadoes, though we have at least one come through town pretty much annually, but that…that was just horrific.

I understand your point though, smokers are viewed as contagion infested monsters. I

Some smokers are mothers.

Jennifer-

Tornadoes always seem to hit Bible Belt communities and the media will always interview people who say they prayed to be spared, and, miraculously, they were! I just wish someone would ask if they prayed that the hospital would be spared.

smedley – well, they can’t very well interview the people who prayed to be spared and weren’t because…they’re dead and can’t talk anymore. Of course I’m sure some of the brethren could explain to us that it was because God didn’t like them.

God hates mobile homes.

Of course I’m sure some of the brethren could explain to us that it was because God didn’t like them.

Cuz of gays and stuff.

or perhaps they were smokers….

God hates mobile homes.

Thank you, Doctor Johnny Fever.

Pupienus – this reminds me of my proposal for tornado-proofing communities in Tornado Alley…we just set up a ring of trailerpark decoys around the perimeter of the community, with uninhabited trailers (the formaldehyde-polluted FEMA Katrina trailers would be good for this purpose & could finally be put to use), and when the tornado comes, it just follows the ring of trailerparks and detours around town…

Can we all just agree that God hates Joplin, Missouri?

Security panics are a real boon to sickos.

Yeah, I get it – people don’t like the smell of cigarette smoke.

You’ll be amazed by what smokers actually smell like. It’ll take, like, a year, but your nose recalibrates. It’s an eye opener, really.

My schnozz was always fairly sensitive, but having been a smoker my entire adult life I had a blind spot for that particular aroma. The actual smoke isn’t all that awful, burning leaves y’know, but the lingering afterfunk is kinda stanky.

San Fran has a no smoking in the park law as well. A bit much in my opinion. It doesn’t really seem to deter that many folks anyhow, so, meh. I will say that people ignoring the no smoking in bus stops law does piss me off. Sure, it’s “outside” but I can’t just move off when someone sidles up next to me puffing away, nor should I have to. To be fair, the kid that sparked up a blunt at the stop the other day annoyed me, and I generally like the smell of herb. So, six/half-dozen on the outdoor smoking thing. Like everything, context matters.

I still think dive bars lose something by being smoke free. Not that it’s ever really too cold to go outside here. It’s just part of the whole thing.

Like I say, give it a year or two. At some point you’ll notice a change. It’s weird.

And while I try not to be a dick, I now understand the old trope about how it’s not quitting that’s hard, it’s keeping your mouth shut about it.

Some smokers mothers are mothers smoking.

Bobo on the plusses of incest:

“Britain is also blessed with a functioning political culture. It is dominated by people who live in London and who have often known each other since prep school. This makes it gossipy and often incestuous. But the plusses outweigh the minuses.”

Smoking the mother.

Knowing each other since prep school.

Can we all just agree that God hates Joplin, Missouri?

He hates these cans!!!

Ture monogamy.

Joplin is bad. I haven’t been there in a couple of years, but there are pictures of areas that I knew well and do not recognize. People who have lived there for years have had problems finding their way around because the street signs were gone and so were the landmarks.

I heard an interview with a guy who was one of the first rescuers on the ground and was digging people out by himself for hours. He couldn’t stop breaking down and crying. HORRIBLE.

My mom knows a fair amount of people who work at St. John’s. She worked in the respiratory therapy program for about 20 years at the community college in my hometown, and her students did clinicals at St. John’s. Anyway, one of her friends posted photos from the ICU after they’d cleared the patients out…they’re lucky they didn’t lose more people at the hospital. And I can’t imagine the amount of work and logistical planning that went into getting people to the other (smaller) hospital.

It’s kind of getting to me. They’re expecting more bad weather today, too.

It snowed in DC in January = proof Al Gore is fat
record tornadoes, droughts, floods = oh look a shiny thing over there

Well, except I wouldn’t necessarily put the tornadoes down to global warming, at least not without seeing a lot of evidence laid out to support it. It’s been a bad year for them but there have been bad years for them before,30, 40, 50 or 60 years ago. If every year we started seeing a string of very powerful tornadoes like this year, then that would be suggestive of being attributable to climate change. But what I think has caused this year to be so bad can (in the absence of aforementioned data/evidence) more confidently be ascribed to La Nina. Tornadoes result from warm, moist air and cold, dry air colliding, and those conditions come together in the Mid-South more often than anywhere else in the country. The La Nina jet stream pattern has in fact kept the region cooler (& wetter) than usual this spring – but that seems to be where we most often run into problems with these types of storms – when the temps are fluctuating. So far this spring we’ve had 4 or 5 brief spells of temps in the 80s – and then another cold front will swoop down and we’ll have more violent storms. Normally the jet stream keeps cool air out of here between April & October but this year, it ain’t. I had to run the heat for a couple of nights in mid-May, which is unheard of, and have so far only run the AC for one spell that lasted about a day and a half.

I sended you an e-mail, Jennifer.

My life has been a bit chaotic the last few days.

Well, except I wouldn’t necessarily put the tornadoes down to global warming, at least not without seeing a lot of evidence laid out to support it. It’s been a bad year for them but there have been bad years for them before

Here’s the thing…AGW predicts that storm activity will become more violent over time and if you look at the last several years cumulatively, I think you can build a pretty good case that that is exactly what’s happening irrespective of El Niño or La Niña activity. Record breaking snowstorms in the northeast, drought in Tejas, previous drought in Georgia, extra-big hurricanes, ongoing record temperatures…

No one year or region can provide the “proof” you mention but on balance It seems pretty clear to me.

It’s just like, um, cancer and smoking!

There’s not a lot of data linking global warming to an increase in tornadoes right now, but I find it hard to believe that having so much extra water vapor in the atmosphere wouldn’t have an effect on the number/severity of tornadoes. But I also dropped my meteorology class in college because it was sooooooooo borrrrrrrrrrring.

I would think that the overarching trend is toward more frequent and more intense unsettled activity. More hurricanes, tornadoes, snowstorms, sudden strange changes in rainfall amounts, etc.

I’m not a scientist, so this is purely speculative based on my own observation and probably a little bit of confirmation bias.

Whatever the case, the idea that there is a defensible argument against assuming we are the root cause of global warming taking immediate action is laughable.

Well, except I wouldn’t necessarily put the tornadoes down to global warming, at least not without seeing a lot of evidence laid out to support it.

Well the one piece of information (# of tornados/year) has a lot of noise, but there appears to be an upward trend. Indeed teh interannual variability is way larger, example 2008 easily outnumbers 2009 and 2010, so for sure the specifics for that year are the predominate factors.

I’m an ex-smoker (long, long ago in a galaxy far away), and was exposed to so much second-hand smoke as a child that any additional outdoor exposure now won’t matter. I can distincty remember watching the black-n-white tv with my dad in the living room, sitting on the couch and the stratified layers of his cigarette smoke drifting lazily about the room in the glow from the tube. It was actually quite pretty, in a toxic way.

Anyway, there have been some distinct cases recently where outdoor smoking did piss me off:

1) The weather’s been decent here, so I’ve been opening the window of my third-floor office. Three smokers stand 50 feet away by their cars in the parking lot below, and somehow or another the smoke heads directly for my office. That is just fucking annoying. There are signs telling people not to idle their vehicles because the exhaust goes into the windows, but smokers only have to be 10 ft away from a door not a window.

2) I was recently training for a big trail running race, and was at about mile 18 of a grueling day of running crazy singletrack trails in the hills around here. On one of the trails, I come up behind two smokers on the trail in front of me. It’s one thing to follow a smoker while walking down the sidewalk, but I was already breathing hard. It was brutal trying to breathe until I could get past those folks.

So, annoying? Yes. Should it be illegal? No. C’mon, isn’t that kind of shit “conservatives” are always trying to do?

Guess who’s going to be on Talk of the Nation today?

Aha. Did a bit moar digging – teh slight upward trend is an artifact of data collection.

With increased national doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency.

Based on F3-F5 counts, it’s actually a decreasing trend.

ALIENS ON VOTER ROLLS!

You know, for every born-again non-smoker, there is a totally inconsiderate jackass of a smoker who will plop down next to a family in the park and light up a smoke and watch the smoke drift right across the family’s spot.

Smokers should try their best to be polite and considerate. Non smokers who encounter those trying to be polite should STFU. And there’s nothing wrong with politely asking someone to take it somewhere else if you were there first, or are stuck in a spot like OBS.

The Kobagh featured in this post is on Talk of the Nation, lying through his teeth about the imaginary threat of voter fraud.

Well, this is somewhat amusing. Jonah Goldberg found a mildly funny picture of Obama’s signature from today where he accidentally listed the date as 2008. Har har stupid black guy etc. Jonah’s readers’ response? A variation of “IF IT WAS BUSH THE MEDIA WOULD BE KILLING HIM!!!!!!!!” from all of them.

Neal Conan is all up in his shit, which is pretty great.

Guess who’s going to be on Talk of the Nation today?

Hitler?

Kobagh didn’t advance his cause much, mostly treading water rhetorically and dog whistling for all his might.

A variation of “IF IT WAS BUSH THE MEDIA WOULD BE KILLING HIM!!!!!!!!” from all of them.

To be fair, yeah. We would be.

And that, Ls & Gn, is the difference between making a mistake, and making nothing but mistakes.

mostly treading water rhetorically and dog whistling for all his might.

Sigh. Won’t it be nice when, finally, all those dog whistles just sound like bubbles?

Guess who’s going to be on Talk of the Nation today?

You’ve hit the big time?

,,,the imaginary threat of voter fraud.

But, but what about teh 221 incidents of voter fraud were reported between 1997 and 2010?!?! That’s like, SEVENTEEN A YEAR!!!ones1!

Oh, nevermind.

So, annoying? Yes. Should it be illegal? No. C’mon, isn’t that kind of shit “conservatives” are always trying to do?

Nonsense. Conservatives would never tell you what sort of substances to consume, and they certainly wouldn’t waste precious government resources enforcing their whims in that respect.

Somehow I just don’t see even the banana eating knuckle draggers of the Left Behind Party getting on the bandwagon with the voter fraud thing. Many of them have voted and know how dull it is.

But, but what about teh 221 incidents of voter fraud were reported between 1997 and 2010?!?! That’s like, SEVENTEEN A YEAR!!!ones1!

Oh, nevermind.

Sweet Christ on a cracker. Seventeen cases of voter fraud a year, I’d have believed – actually seems kind of low given how, aheh, “motivated” so many people on the political scene are. But that’s seventeen claims, not actual proven cases?

This is a nonissue right up there with… with… well, Obama’s birth certificate, and Romneycare Obamacare’s death panels, and Obama bowing to foreign rulers, and… yeah. Yeah. I get it.

Well what about teh ,,,already has found 67 aliens illegally registered to vote in Kansas, but when the total number is calculated, it will likely be in the hundreds.?

67 illegals! Registered to vote! OMG! TOTES FRAUD-Y FRAUD FRAUD!

“We have no anecdotal evidence from the counties (of illegal immigrants voting). We have found instances of legal immigrants registering to vote,” Hodgson said. “What happens is that when legal immigrants come in to apply for a drivers license, the workers at the Department of Motor Vehicles ask them, as required by the Motor Voter Act, if they would like to register.”

O.M.G. Teh DMV is PART OF TEH CONSPIRACY!!!elventies1!

You’ve hit the big time?

Sadly, no!

Seventeen cases of voter fraud a year,,,

Seventeen allegations of voter fraud almost all of which turned out to be not fraud at all.

Teh numbers do jibe too. Remember back in teh Dark Days of Teh Nu Millenium, when Hans teh Spaz had his own special group in W’s DoJ specifically to hunt down voter fraud? Story is from ’07, so this is what they came up with in half a decade including teh 2004 election.

And they cite Justice Department figures showing 87 convictions for ballot fraud since 2002.

87. In 5 years. Nationally.

99 bottles of voter fraud on the wall
wait, that one wasn’t really fraud, take it down, what do you get?
98 bottles of voter fraud on the wall…

Lordy Loo, in a comment to the article about Limbaugh’s ratings drop at the Marxist Business Insider, some moran wrote:

O’Reillys numbers are down too..People are finally waking up that lefty O’Reilly loves obongo and is full of crap, and it’s the same for Hannity, he loves everybody that real Conservatives hate..Cain and West are afro jokes, a large number of tea party picks turned out to be libdemarxist liars..And for all the noise that Rush and others have made, worthless obongo got elected and it looks like he will again..Stay tuned for the release of palins 26,000 pages of emails on May 31st….Maybe people will quit letting FOX do the thinking for them and wake up and really see what the RNC is offering….ZERO….

Gotta love the infighting. There’ll be armed Tea Party groups fighting each other in the streets if this trend continues.

Lordy Loo, in a comment to the article about Limbaugh’s ratings drop at the Marxist Business Insider, some moran wrote:

this. made. my. day…

There’ll be armed Tea Party groups fighting each other in the streets if this trend continues.

And I’ll happily setup a booth selling popcorn and ammunition.

But but but what about the rampant smoker fraud going on all across the country, eh? What about that, libs?!

a large number of tea party picks turned out to be libdemarxist liars

Oh Poe. Thanks to you I can’t tell if this is whackaloon Birchery or sublime parody! What to do, what to do…

PENIS also too.

Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
May 24, 2011 at 20:30

Best part of that was the obligatory “Cain and West are Afro jokes.” The more things change…

Of course, that guy was a liberal plant.

Lordy Loo

I’m… just trying to figure out who this spoogestain thinks is the right sort of candidate. Far Enough Right doesn’t seem to exist for this clown.

And I’ll happily setup a booth selling popcorn and ammunition.

I’m in. Franchise time. Shitty Politti Bang Bang? Snacks-N-Gats? Eats-N-Heat?

But … but … but the guy just said on teh radidio that “we know thousands of illegals voted” somewhere or other. How could it not be true?

You know, if we could get the murder rate down to the “suspected voter fraud” rate, this would be the safest country in the world.

Thank goodness the GOP is staying on top of the issues that really matter.

I’m in. Franchise time. Shitty Politti Bang Bang? Snacks-N-Gats? Eats-N-Heat?

Hmm, yes, names…

Kernels of Death
Pop Goes the Ammo

I’ll have to think on this. Rest assured that the franchise fees will be minimal.

Heh. Just yesterday I counseled someone at my favorite atheism site on how to handle the multi pronged attacks from all the theists, as he recently experienced at a party. Instead of arguing for atheism vs. god, get them to argue with each other. “Is Luther in heaven or hell?” “Do works matter?” “Is Mary absolved of her sins by the priest?” It is great fun to watch.

Do the franchise fees include the logo-etched, inch-thick-plexiglass facade?

Instead of arguing for atheism vs. god, get them to argue with each other. “Is Luther in heaven or hell?” “Do works matter?” “Is Mary absolved of her sins by the priest?” It is great fun to watch.

Ah… the Cadmus approach.

bbkf,

re: indoor smoking ban, could the slump be associated with other economic factors? I don’t want to bug you with teh “studies show” thing, but studies show,,,

Do the franchise fees include the logo-etched, inch-thick-plexiglass facade?

Of course!

Another name possibility:

Popping Off

(Unfortunately “popping one off” doesn’t really work, except as a euphemism, where it works brilliantly.)

“Is Luther in heaven or hell?” “Do works matter?” “Is Mary absolved of her sins by the priest?” It is great fun to watch.

Frequently just one word like “transubstantiation” will do the job.

Ah… the Cadmus approach.

Super extra bonus points for the Maxfield Parrish illustration.

“Is Luther in heaven or hell?” “Do works matter?” “Is Mary absolved of her sins by the priest?” It is great fun to watch.

“Who could win in a fight between Heracles and Thor?”

“Spearhafoc, who could turn the world on with his smile said,”

You’ve seen the movie, I have not. Please remember to provide SPOILER alerts.

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Bonus shorter: gay conservatives can learn a lot from Breitfart.

The answers are: heaven; yes; and Hell no, Mary is not absolved of her sins. Having a little lamb out of wedlock can never be forgiven.

I didn’t mean the movie/comic version, I meant the real Thor. You know, Þórr.

The one that actually exists. With the hammer and the belt of strength and the big, red beard and the eating disorder and the anger issues. That Þórr.

Or did you mean Disney’s Hercules (AKA, the most accurate portrayal of Greek mythology ever)?

I didn’t mean the movie/comic version, I meant the real Thor.

Wait. Thor isreal? Does this mean I have to be baptized AGAIN?

Please remember to provide SPOILER alerts.

SPOILER.

The good guys win, but teh ending leaves open teh possibility of a sequel.

I believe you have to get hammered.

SPOILER

Teh hero learns a lesson about himself/his closest allies.

I believe you have to get hammered.

For the Thor baptism that is. Or, you know, just because.

I believe you have to get hammered.

Oh, good. I was needing an excuse.

“Wait. Thor isreal? Does this mean I have to be baptized AGAIN?”

Bjorn again?

but, being on the border, are you going to go outside and sweat or freeze your balls off to have a smoke while you are out, or are you going to drive an extra mile and sit indoors?

Absolutely. It’s a problem for businesses near borders. Where I live there’s a reason for people on both sides of the border to hop them, and they do so, as I would if I had a good reason.

No baptism in the Norse religion, but they did have a naming ceremony that involved sprinkling water over the infant and then making the sign of Þórr’s hammer (similar to the sign of the cross) over him/her.

The Kobagh featured in this post is on Talk of the Nation, lying through his teeth about the imaginary threat of voter fraud.

Until someone from Diebold goes to jail or dies, all righties can shut the motherfuck up about voter fraud.

I HAVE SPOKEN.

Even when I smoked, I could go to Idaho (a mere 19 miles from my present abode) and smoke my ugly mug off if I felt so inclined. Truthfully, I liked it better when smokers went outside to smoke.

I had to sing and play a guitar for 4-1/2 hours in a smoke filled bar. (Singing for maybe an hour at the most), and it was pure hell by the end of the night.

Smoking ban good.

you have to get hammered.

Oh, god, not again.

I had to sing and play a guitar for 4-1/2 hours in a smoke filled bar. (Singing for maybe an hour at the most), and it was pure hell by the end of the night.

not to be nitpicky, but did you HAVE to or did you choose to? i will still argue that yes, public places where people do have to frequent, the smoking ban is good…but in a restaurant or bar? i still say it should be up to the owner…

like i said, it think overall it IS a good thing, i mean smoking really is stoopid and i’m glad i’ve made it almost a week without one, it’s just the criminalizing of smokers that whizzes me off…

today (day 4) has been rife w/situations that trigger my habit. i DO NOT want to smoke again, but dammit…

Hang in there, girl. You can make it. Just look forward.

When I was in the Army making a 17 mile march (One time), I just looked at a target and walked to it. Then I’d pick another target and walk to it. Then another….and so on. Focus on each little victory. Try not to think about the long forced march (after which you may enter a battle…)

Smoking ban good.

I used to play in a bar band with a guy whose wife made him disrobe on the porch after gigs, walk straight to the shower and then he was allowed to go to bed. Between 2 and 3 in the morning. I hope this no longer happens to today’s bar bands.

No baptism in the Norse religion

Your turn, PM.

i still say it should be up to the owner…

The problem is under most laws in most developed countries an owner can’t demand their employees be harmed. Once you put yourself in the position of saying secondhand smoke is harmful there isn’t another legal option.

When I was in the Army making a 17 mile march (One time), I just looked at a target and walked to it. Then I’d pick another target and walk to it. Then another….and so on. Focus on each little victory. Try not to think about the long forced march (after which you may enter a battle…)

thank you and true that…i just have to take it one day at a time…literally…cuz if i think about not being able to relax after a day or weekend of yardwork with a smoke and a beer on my new patio, i want to weep…

Making the sign of Þórr’s hammer.

I used to play in a bar band

The best is working in a restaurant that serves a shitload of fried food over the dinner shift until close…you smell like a walking cancer bomb.

not to be nitpicky, but did you HAVE to or did you choose to? i will still argue that yes, public places where people do have to frequent, the smoking ban is good…but in a restaurant or bar? i still say it should be up to the owner…

Chose. The owner of the bar, bartenders, waitresses, cooks, not so much.

I see the “up to the owner” argument, but I also HATE incremental and voluntary and incentivised legislation.

Cap and trade? Meaning bigger businesses get to buy the right to polute and smaller business are left trying to figure out how to comply or pay off the government or go out of business. (Why Repukes don’t like this is beyond me).

thank you and true that…i just have to take it one day at a time…literally…cuz if i think about not being able to relax after a day or weekend of yardwork with a smoke and a beer on my new patio, i want to weep…

No shit! Last night I rewarded myself with a Five Guys burger and cajun fries and a beer. The lack of smoke after this meal was noticeable and frustrating.

The best is working in a restaurant that serves a shitload of fried food over the dinner shift until close

Vaporized lard, cigarette smoke and evaporating beer makes the best memories!

The best is working in a restaurant that serves a shitload of fried food over the dinner shift until close…you smell like a walking cancer bomb.

No, I’ve done that too, fry/grill cook on the 4 to midnight shift (with smoking!!) and it was no where near as bad as playing r&r for 4 hours in a thick London fog of ciggy smoke, beer and commercial fishermen. I burned my clothes more than once.

No baptism in the Norse religion

So that thing with the guys in that Oslo bar back room wasn’t actually a religious ceremony? Seeing that level of worship I just assumed…

The problem is under most laws in most developed countries an owner can’t demand their employees be harmed. Once you put yourself in the position of saying secondhand smoke is harmful there isn’t another legal option

i know, i know…but, if the absolutely only work you can get is at a bar or restaurant, you likely have bigger problems than second hand smoke…and then the liberal in me argues that that is exactly the kind of person who needs the most support against exploitation…

I used to play in a bar band with a guy whose wife made him disrobe on the porch after gigs, walk straight to the shower and then he was allowed to go to bed. Between 2 and 3 in the morning

It destroys your not so cheap amplifiers and effects pedals too.

No shit! Last night I rewarded myself with a Five Guys burger and cajun fries and a beer. The lack of smoke after this meal was noticeable and frustrating.

…yeah…i have been surviving with extra dessert delights sugarfree gum immediately after a meal…

On the climate change topic way upthread, at least one study has shown that large precipitation events have become more frequent. Warm air can hold more moisture and release it quicker. See: http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/1525-7541%282004%29005%3C0064%3ACCOTHC%3E2.0.CO%3B2

We are adding energy to a chaotic system and the results will be greater instability.

nd then the liberal in me argues that that is exactly the kind of person who needs the most support against exploitation

I struggle with this too–but I remind myself that food service workers are among the most vulnerable to exploitation and being subjected to abhorrent working conditions.

Especially women who serve men alcohol. Good lord, what a thankless, shitty job.

…yeah…i have been surviving with extra dessert delights sugarfree gum immediately after a meal…

I suck my e-cigarette prettier than a $20 whore.

Especially women who serve men alcohol. Good lord, what a thankless, shitty job.

agreed…i still do this 2-3 nights a week…luckily being in a supper club makes it a little less gross, but still, sometimes you just want to kick every dude in the jimmies…

<i.I suck my e-cigarette prettier than a $20 whore.

i bet you do! i’ve tried one and they aren’t too bad…

It destroys your not so cheap amplifiers and effects pedals too.

Rock skies. Dude.

Especially women who serve men alcohol. Good lord, what a thankless, shitty job.

I’m not kidding when I say I’d rather be a stripper. More money, and better on your back, despite the ridiculous shoes.

I’ll come in again:

Rock skiis. Dude.

I’m not kidding when I say I’d rather be a stripper. More money, and better on your back, despite the ridiculous shoes.

if i had even the least amount of coordination and wouldn’t continually crack myself up trying to make the ‘oooh, i’m soooo sexxay’ face, i would probably give it a whirl…

bbkf – I think the key is to not think about how you won’t ever be able to have a smoke with your beer after doing the yardwork. I know every other time I tried to quit, I tortured myself during the runup to the quit attempt and until I failed with how I couldn’t imagine NEVER being able to have another cigarette. This time, I didn’t do that, for whatever reason. I think just not doing that has kept me from thinking about cigarettes or smoking all that much. And of course, I too have been sucking on my e-cigarette, though I keep telling myself, that’s really no different from chewing nicotine gum or wearing a nicotine patch. The most important thing is to break the habit of lighting up.

When I go to bed tomorrow evening, I’ll have a week under my belt…and already I’ve noticed several things: not coughing up a bunch of yuk every day, not waking up in the morning and soaking 2 or 3 Kleenexes clearing out my sinuses, breathing easier. The house smells like a fucking forest fire, however. I’ve had windows open and attic fan running every evening, plus I’ve set out small bowls of apple cider vinegar in every room (this will get rid of smoke odor – don’t know why, but it works). I’m going out of town the end of this week and will be gone for a week & a half…hopefully by the time I get home most if not all of the odor will be dissipated.

Hang tight, we’re all going to make it.

More money, and better on your back, despite the ridiculous shoes.

The pole – ahem – is also not the greatest for back problems.

“Is Luther in heaven or hell?”
Given the enthusiasm within the Catholic Church for canonising Savonarola, there is no reason why they shouldn’t canonise Martin Luther as well. Recognise him as a good Catholic who was just prematurely anti-corruption.

More money, and better on your back, despite the ridiculous shoes.

Clowning is no career for–
wait, what?

Hang tight, we’re all going to make it.

thanks, guys…i just gotta keep in mind 2 things: my dad dying at 60 from lung cancer and my kids…my son, because he’s awesome and my only chance at grandkids and my handicapable daughter…i gotta stay around as long as i can to make sure she’s okay…

and wouldn’t continually crack myself up trying to make the ‘oooh, i’m soooo sexxay’ face, i would probably give it a whirl…

I believe you have to get hammered.

So that thing with the guys in that Oslo bar back room wasn’t actually a religious ceremony? Seeing that level of worship I just assumed…

Were they smoking?

I believe you have to get hammered.

to quote one of the greats: oh, god, not again!

I believe you have to get hammered.

Jesu cristo, Otra vez? No me digas.

Seeing that level of worship I just assumed…

Actor? Is that you?

Really: all. one. guy.

S. cerevisiae – well, you kind of get to some of my skepticism that this year’s tornadoes are the result of global warming. Because as I noted above, this year our champion tornado-producing region has been significantly cooler than normal. Even the warm spells to date have been cooler than normal. Maybe I didn’t express it clearly enough, but the root of my skepticism comes from this fact: warm, moist air is a historic feature of this area. True, warmer air can hold more moisture…but this year hasn’t been warmer, and we’ve had hella tornadoes. The bottom line is that anytime you take warm, moist air and collide it with cool dry air, you’re going to get violent storms capable of producing tornadoes. Does warmer air make it MORE likely? Perhaps, but I don’t know for a fact that it does, and even if it does, that isn’t what has caused us to have more violent storms this year, because the air HASN’T been warmer than normal. If the issue is that of temperature differential between the warm and cool air masses, a frigid air mass could very well product a horrific storm when it meets up with a no-warmer-than-typical air mass. I’m not pretending to know one way or the other but…as I said, I’m skeptical, and I think in light of the facts above the skepticism is not unreasonable for this particular case.

Were they smoking?

Oooh, brisket!

Rock skiis. Dude.

There–now I get it.

The only amp I owned was a Line 6 and therefore a rock board when it was brand new. I never invested in the Marshall JCM I always wanted, and I always used multi-effects instead of a Tube Screamer–just because of the damage inflicted by moving the shit around and the harsh environments.

the key is to not think about how you won’t ever be able to have a smoke with your beer after doing the yardwork

Yeah. When the urge hits, just tell yourself you won’t smoke now. Put it off for 20 minutes. Eventually the urge will go away and you’re good for a couple more hours. Keep doing that and you’ll find the urges come less and less often, then, eventually, not at all.

I’m not kidding when I say I’d rather be a stripper.

I’m sure I’d rather you were a stripper as well.

I’m sure I’d rather you were a stripper as well.

It really *is* all one guy. Huh!

instead of a Tube Screamer

you said tube screamer!

Screaming the tube.

Sensitive guys preferred the Big Muff.

Oooh, brisket!

In Pup’s case, beefcake brisket.

Guys on a budget preferred the POD.

I don’t know how this ties in, but there’s a vegetable joke in there somewhere?

There–now I get it.

I have a beautiful Fender 75 that I’ve only played out with a couple of times. I mostly used a bulletproof Acoustic 100 solid state piece of crap (three break-ins and they haven’t taken it yet!) and some worthless stomp boxes(the Tele provided all the sound). Considering what they were paying it seemed wrong to use my best stuff. The idea that second hand smoke could hurt any of my equipment is laughable. I have, however, seen more than one amp destroyed by beer. Drummers, too.

Perhaps, but I don’t know for a fact that it does, and even if it does, that isn’t what has caused us to have more violent storms this year, because the air HASN’T been warmer than normal.

But the air in adjacent regions probably has been. The energy in the system as a whole has increased.

Yeah. When the urge hits, just tell yourself you won’t smoke now. Put it off for 20 minutes.

Just go for a five minute jog, and savor the ability to breathe.

Just go for a five minute jog, and savor the ability to breathe.

i thought i already related the reason why i can no longer run…

@ jennifer–there is also speculation that global warming has cooled the oceans due to more rapidly melting arctic/antarctic ice. This, in turn cools currents, thus cooling trade wind air, net effect being unseasonably cool air, mixed with warmer air that sits over land, causing more unsettled weather in places that generally experience calmer skies, and amped up devastation in places like Tornado Alley and the gulf.

Warm air slamming into cold air = tornado. Warm air slamming into even colder air–more intense tornadoes, perhaps more frequent tornadoes.

{CSNY} I have played Big Muffs before, I have played Big Muffs before{/CSNY}

But the air in adjacent regions probably has been. The energy in the system as a whole has increased.

beloved metro weatherman dave ‘wally’ dahl, just said the reason there are more tornadoes in cooler temps is because of ‘an overly energetic jetstream…’

Were they smoking?

Oooh, brisket!

No, pole.

We got more hail this month. Vancouver’s not the greatest place for weather, but our wet weather is usually a much wimpier variety. I also don’t remember as much thunder and lightning as there is these days.

Fuh-huck

Here in Spokane, it’s been a solid 10° cooler than normal since January. Nearly every day through today. It was snowing at the end of April, which it is NOT supposed to do here.

The bottom line is that anytime you take warm, moist air and collide it with cool dry air, you’re going to get violent storms capable of producing tornadoes.

As somebody else probably mentioned before I had a chance to — it’s the cold hitting the warm, either one of them can be wet.*

And it’s been a helluva year for snow pack up here in the Northwest and further up in Canuckistan. The jet stream whips through there and pulls cold air off the evaporating snow back, then heads for the gulf. That’s a recipe for some fucking big storms.

Also related: I just bought one of these. It’s awesome — makes my Fender Blues Junior sound killer with no feedback, and I can go straight into a PA and still get good sound.

*yes.

Look, I wasn’t saying that GW is directly responsible for the record droughts, floods, tornadoes and so on. The point was that GW deniers jump on one weather event as proof while a continuing series of cataclysmic events (which might or even probably be somewhat influenced by climate change) elicits not a word. See, I wasn’t trying to make that claim, merely point out the inconsistent behavior of the whingnut set.

Could we please stop debating it here – I know I ain’t no climatologist and even if some of you are experts well, fuck that boring shit!

snow back snow pack

No, pole.

I am truly appalled at the joke that just popped in my head…

fuck that boring shit!

What about the merits of various effects pedals?

How ’bout you give us the recipe for what you had for lunch? My food pron of the day consisted of two frozen chicken tamales from Trader Joe’s — not hawt.

Fuh-huck

They’re overplaying their hand here. Seriously. If they think that’s going to play well among anybody except the 20% devoted, they’re delusional.

Rainiest spring on record if you go by number of days with rain as opposed to total precip. Also.

overly energetic jetstream…

That is one of the effects of climate change that is going to be hard to predict. But adding more energy to the system is likely not good. A lot of people and ecosystems depend on reliable weather patterns and that is going out the door.

packing the snow

Vancouver’s not the greatest place for weather,

Now there’s some real Canadian deadpan. The upside is that the girls there are so pale they’re luminous.

Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

May 24, 2011 at 23:00

Fuh-huck

Wow. If the dems don’t rub his face in that immediately, they’re… Oh who the fuck am I kidding.

You know who else was a stripper?

They’re overplaying their hand here. Seriously. If they think that’s going to play well among anybody except the 20% devoted, they’re delusional.

I doubt it. This will play well with every “I’m not paying for his health care” fuckup right winger across the nation. As long as they aren’t personally affected by it, they couldn’t give less of a shit. They’ll point to the charities and act like that makes some kind of difference.

I had leftovers from last night’s chicken paillards (no autocorrect,I did not mean not pail lard though it does intrigue) sauteed briefly then while resting the pan became a fresh morel cream sauce with asparagus. Lovely what the sauce does for steamed rice.

FYWP. Too. and such as.

B^4 – Gosh, I smell an opportunity to pluck MO, and perhaps even Kansas in part, from the GOP’s clutches.

While Little Eric continues to shoot off his mouth about how if we don’t defund Planned Parenthood or whatever, Joplin gets it, the Democrats should be out raising money for aid to the city. Then we’ll see how well the latest hostage crisis plays in KC…and Springfield…and Emporia…

Look, I wasn’t saying that GW is directly responsible

heh…i took this to mean george dubya at first…

and in west central mn, we had a hideous and long snowy winter, followed by brief spring, more snow, a re-appearance of spring, rain and cool temps…

Fuh-huck

is there some sort of award for being a tool? cuz, this dude clearly deserves it…

Fuh-huck

They’re overplaying their hand here. Seriously. If they think that’s going to play well among anybody except the 20% devoted, they’re delusional.

No shit! That shit’s not going to fly even among the teabaggers. They know it could be their house next.

Naw, I think the heartlanders just might take offense. Thank you Eric, keep it up. Hey here’s an idea for you: tell them in Missouri that the aid will come out of their Medicare.

This will play well with every “I’m not paying for his health care” fuckup right winger across the nation.

Do you know how many people like that live in places where they get tornadoes? These folks are mostly white and Christian and conservative.

Of course, the media will probably fuck it up and it’ll turn out that it’s all Obama’s fault and Rush Limbaugh will declare people from Joplin are Communists or some shit.

Rush Limbaugh will declare people from Joplin are Communists or some shit.

i dunno if rush will since he’s a missourian, but it will fer shure be obama’s fault if it’s not so already…

This will play well with every “I’m not paying for his health care” fuckup right winger across the nation. As long as they aren’t personally affected by it, they couldn’t give less of a shit

I think Cantor’s major fuckup is that the wingers are personally affected by it lately. Kinda hard to be all “Galt” and shit when your brother’s house has been demolished.

No shit! That shit’s not going to fly even among the teabaggers. They know it could be their house next.

Exactly.

Shitshit. Now Oklahoma is getting its ass kicked.

Yeah, I know how many people live in places like that. I also know how many people have neighbors and relatives who are DYING because they have no access to health care, and these assholes STILL think their imaginary free market is the way to go–that everything is working fine.

This is a nation jammed to the rafters with assholes. “I’m ok, fuck everyone else”. That’s why the word liberal is an epithet.

i would call this going too far…

Pupienus Maximus said,

[yummy things]

I put the tamales in the microwave. Then turned it on. Then waited. Then pulled the plate out of the microwave, and burned the shit out of my finger ’cause the plate got hotter than the tamales.

I discovered I am out of hot sauce.

The tamales were… filling. So there’s that.

I gots to refresh more often (VBOR?). On a happier note, I’ve got a couple of pounds of nettles that are going to get creamed. Once again, Pup Max gives perfect advice regarding teh koozeen.

Repigs have been spouting this shit since Obama took office and suffered exactly no consequences for it. Don’t think they will this time either.

Shitshit. Now Oklahoma is getting its ass kicked.

again, i do not miss living in the south…

Shitshit. Now Oklahoma is getting its ass kicked.

Get to the chopper under cover!

(VBOR?)

barack obama?

Shitshit. Now Oklahoma is getting its ass kicked.

Well, in all fairness, Oklahoma has had an ass-kicking coming for quite some time…

Yeah, they also made 911 first responders prove they weren’t terrorists before getting medical help. That didn’t do anything.

I’m starting to think nothing the Republicans do, no matter how psychopathic, will be able to turn their supporters away from them. After all, the alternative is voting for a ni–

Yeah, they also made 911 first responders prove they weren’t terrorists before getting medical help. That didn’t do anything.

And openly denied them any extended health care benefits, knowing full well that they’re sick from their rescue efforts on 9/11.

They also openly told the unemployed that getting extended benefits means they are LAZY.

The list goes on and on.

Be careful not to assume that one among them is capable of empathy or even the logical power to realize that the next victim could be themselves. They vote Republican because they’re dumb and because they’re assholes.

Yeah, they also made 911 first responders prove they weren’t terrorists before getting medical help. That didn’t do anything.

Hmm, what political party could have made some mileage off that?

Hmm, what political party could have made some mileage off that?

A: None. What kind of asshole party would politicize aid to New York’s first responders? Are you crazy?

Gee, was it something I said?

Let’s go back to talking about bras and strippers.

Whale Chowder chokes the thread out.

But you killed it, old chum!

Bras and strippers: I’m agin the one and for the other.

Semi-related: The Adventures Of Conservative Robin Hood

Bras and strippers: I’m agin the one and for the other.

I’m for both. They both make a valuable contribution to my perviness.

I’m agin the one and for support the other.

Fixdeder.

recipes please? at the mo, teh hubby and i have 39 of those bad boys in our backyard…

Color me jealous. No, I can’t give you a proper recipe because you know damn well I don’t have recipes. Best as I kin recall…

Chix breasts, pounded flattish (my great grandmother’s small Griswold cast iron pan works so well I rarely use my meat pounder*). Extra virgin and butter into a non-non-stick pan (DeBuyer 10″ mineral in this case) at medium high. Salt and pepper and a bit of herbs de Provence on the chix tits then into the pan until lightly browned on both sides. Remove to a plate and tent with foil. Add a bit of oil and / or butter if needed and toss in the VERY coarsely chopped morels. I had some leeks so I used finely cut leek (white part only) but you could also use shallots or plain old yellow onion. Saute that shit up until the leeks (or whatever the fuck yer using) are soft and translucent. Thyme leaves stripped from a couple sprigs or if you only have dried (DO NOT be ashamed – nothing the fuck wrong with dried herbs PROVIDED OF FUCKING COURSE THEY HAVEN’T BEEN SITTING IN THAT USELESS FUCKING CABINET ABOVE YOUR STOVE FOR TWO FUCKING YEARS) crumble some twixt your fingers. Hit the pan with some dry white wine (once again, get a goddamn bottle of Noilly Pratt French vermouth and keep it near your range. Use that shit alla time.) Scrape the pan with your spatula to get up all that yummy fond and reduce until nearly a syrup. I had some gorgeous thinner than a pencil asparagus so I just chopped it into ~inch long pieces and tossed it in. If you have fat spargles** peel the woody part using a veg peeler and you might want to blanch them briefing in generously salted water then refresh before adding to the pan. I may have put some garlic in with the shrooms – I don’t fucking remember but I usually do use some of that nommy nom my stinky rose shit especially when fungus is involved. Anyway, throw some cream or one (half and half, get it?) and reduce until nappe. Toss the tits back in and dump that fucking juice from the plate in there too goddamn it. It’s great with white rice or eggy noodle.

*have at it fellas
**Gack, that sounds nasty dunnit?

So Bibi keeps pushing back (and conservatives cheer for a foreigner against the POTUS) on the 1967 borders being the starting point for talks. Yeah, okay but it’s the _way_ he’s doing it that I don’t get. I keep hearing him say “the undefensible 1967 borders.” What is wrong in this picture, children?

Extra virgin and butter…

Wouldn’t think you could find a virgin in PDX.

Color me jealous. No, I can’t give you a proper recipe because you know damn well I don’t have recipes. Best as I kin recall…

bless you…sounds delish and i can’t wait for the harvest this weekend!!!

I keep hearing him say “the undefensible 1967 borders.” What is wrong in this picture, children?

Oh, you don’t remember how Israel lost the 1967 war?
~

I should point out that a DeBuyer carbon-steel pan is actually non-stick, in the same way that cast iron is non-stick, when properly seasoned. Which mine is, of course. And sheeit, that cast iron pan handed down from great grandma? Fucking awesome non-non-stick non-stick cookware.

“the undefensible 1967 borders.”
Pronunciation pedant.

Maybe he did say “indefensible” – I wasn’t listening closely. I suppose “indefensible” would be okay if it the prefix works the same way as for inflammable.

Bras and strippers: I’m agin the one and for the other.
No-one will hold it against you.

“Britain is also blessed with a functioning political culture. It is dominated by people who live in London and who have often known each other since prep school. This makes it gossipy and often incestuous. But the plusses outweigh the minuses.”

I recall that as a theme in “Bobos in Paradise” — Brooks’ nostalgia for the good old days when the country was governed by East Coast WASP Republicans (purely out of a sense of noblesse oblige — a tradition of service to the nation — because someone had to do it). Back when the division was clear between the ‘political culture’ of hereditary rulers and the class of hereditary governees.

Obviously France has a thriving political culture with a well-entrenched elite; not sure of Brooks’ opinion thereof.

Someone with more experience of England might point out that most of the people comprising the UK’s political culture do not actually live in London, preferring to spread themselves around the Home Counties, but I could not possibly comment.

Israel “cannot go back to the 1967 lines,” Netanyahu lectured Obama on Friday, “because these lines are indefensible.

(I blogged/ranted about that earlier today.)
~

Too true. Cross the wrong bridge and you’re in Misery.

Bravo, I first saw that pun in sixth grade, and have you beat me to finding an appropriate deployment.

/thiswillbeavenged

Bumma light?

Bravo, I first saw that pun in sixth grade,

the depth to which I will stoop: let me show you it

“the depth to which I will stoop: let me show you it”

O Henry, we’ve seen it already.

Yeah and you’ll see it again and again until you get it right.

Jim Hoft has managed to rouse his common taters.

(Oh Noes…The Blacks!!!!) Here’s a sample.

#41 May 24, 2011 at 10:50 am
Jerry commented:

I wonder if Lincoln and the abolitionist movement would have thought and acted differently had they been given a glimpse into the future….

I don’t think I’ll link to Jimbo. I read about it at Roys:

SCENES FROM THE COMING HONKYCAUST
~

I think it’s fairly clear that us white, heterosexual cis-men are the most oppressed group in the history of everything.

It’s only a matter of time before we’re all locked up in camps, Spearhafoc.

#28 May 24, 2011 at 9:41 am
Scott commented:

This kind of behavior was unheard of before the Federal government stepped in to the inner cities with their hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars…Could it be that before “Big Brother” people were busy making a living and didn’t have time for mischief?

I did not realize that “inner cities” meant Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc. but you learn something new everyday.
~

Food pron?

This isn’t fancy, but:

Leftover black bean soup (made with homemade chicken stock and topped with avocado and Greek yogurt and I thought some cilantro, but I don’t have any…ooh, I do have green onion, though)
Cornbread made in a in a well-seasoned cast iron skillet
Strawberry rhubarb crisp made with gf flours, oats, brown sugar, cinnamon, a little almond extract and a little vanilla.

I need ice cream.

Timely: White Americans think that reducing bias against Black Americans is an unfair attack on their own advantages.

It’s only a matter of time before we’re all locked up in camps, Spearhafoc.

Plus, hot women won’t have sex with me.

I’d call it the Pussy Apartheid, but I fear the name would downplay the true magnitude of the problem.

The AP calls the race for Democrat Kathy Hochul! in NY 26.
48% to 42%

politcal luls.
http://www.buffalobeast.com/?p=6072
AMHERST–It was like any other day after the apocalypse. “This is the Sabbath!” an older woman shouts in my ear. “It’s supposed to be a day of rest!”

“I know, ma’am,” I say. “But–

“But nothing!” she yells. “I can’t believe you people are calling me again!”

“But there’s a very important election coming up this Tuesday and if you don’t vote for Jane Corwin horrible things will happen to you and the people you love…she was a successful business fetus…hello?”
[dial tone]

This was a fairly common exchange. I spent about three hours volunteering at Jane Corwin HQ, phoning potential voters, under the alias Steve Smith–an underemployed pet psychic and WNY repat most recently from Oakland, CA.

The AP calls the race for Democrat Kathy Hochul! in NY 26.
48% to 42%

Tedisco WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII….urkk!

This simply reinforces the point that the Ryan budget is popular.

thanks for the earworm, spearhafoc…

Love is all around, no need to waste it…

One more for the record books, before I hit the hay:

#68 May 24, 2011 at 6:34 pm
CrankyOldLady commented:

BLACK Teens Riot In Manhattan Businesses: MyFoxNY.com

There you go FOX, I fixed it for you! You damned liars. Omission also is a lie.

Young blacks attack white-owned businesses because they have become arrogant believing
Obatguano will protect them.

Obatguano and his attorney de-generate, Holder, ignored the crimes of the New Black Panther-Piss-Pants at polling places in Philly that were caught on video. Why wouldn’t this wretched criminal administration ignore any black-mob crimes?

Do you expect something better from the trashbags in charge? I don’t.

After all, isn’t it all about “reparations”? Obatguano thinks so. He’s promised blacks he would take all the stuff people have worked for, including middle class black people, and he would hand it over to worthless gangsters, especially black gangsters, poor things. They can take what they want because there is no federal back-up for the LAW any more.

And besides, it would be politically incorrect to complain about black gangsters. Right?

In my state, I can own, I can open carrry and I could just blow these bastards away if it were messing with my business. I would enjoy it. I think I’ll buy a bigger gun and go practice.

You merchants should move to a better state, unless you like chaos. New York is robbing and enslaving you.

~

Timely: White Americans think that reducing bias against Black Americans is an unfair attack on their own advantages.

Sometimes being a white person is really fucking embarrassing.

Battleground Santa Monica.

I gotta hit the sack.

Before I do:

Young blacks attack white-owned businesses because they have become arrogant believing Obatguano will protect them.

So the uppity near-people only get uppity when they think the government’s on their side? By that standard, wouldn’t that make Nixon and Reagan the biggest near-lovers and near-coddlers in intergalactic history? I mean, urban crime (a.k.a. near-people uppitiness) was at an all-time high under both of them and neither had any success putting an end to all the uppitiness.

Love is all around, no need to waste it…

you can have a town, why don’t you take it?

had any success putting an end to all the uppitiness.

which is central to their point, because really? if st. ronnie couldn’t make them behave like humans, who possibly could?

CrankyOldLady commented:

Well, at least they’re honest about what assholes they are. I would have gone “CrankyOldPieceofShitWhoNeedsToDieSoonAndRidTheWorldOfHerRacistGarbage”, but maybe that wouldn’t have fit in the name field.

I am blowing first-hand cigarette smoke down every Intertube at all of you!

I am blowing first-hand cigarette smoke down every Intertube at all of you!

*cough!*

Asshole.

Oh dear:

Computer 3:
This computer came in because it wouldn’t boot at all. From the smell of it, I was pretty sure the death of this computer was caused by cigarette smoke. You see, when cigarette smoke and dust collide in a computer, it produces this weird dusty-tar combination that has a pasty texture. Its brown, it smells bad and is hard to remove.

Sensitive guys preferred the Big Muff.

Fuh-huck

Way to go, Eric m’boy. Jasper County voted 65% for McCain- Palin and over 70% Republican in 2010.

Wonder how that’s working out for them?

Enough of this encouraging the public to be the “enforcers;” if government is REALLY convinced that second-hand smoke is so much of a health hazard that it smoking must be banned outdoors as well as in, then fucking make smoking illegal and be done with it.

Jennifer, way behind the thread, but amen to that. Never been a smoker, but do have occasional puffs to keep the missus company. But the militant anti smoker movement pisses me off. Ok, fair enough, ban it in restaurants, pubs/bars, but fucken outside, give me a break. When I was last in Canada, i heard that they had banned it on some ski slopes, please explain the logic of that!

And I note that the worst anti smoking enforcers are ex smokers…. you would think they, of anyone, would know better……

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr……

make smoking illegal and be done with it

That’s worked so very well with all the other substances, yeah.
.

Sub: Kee-rect. I had two computers damaged by my very heavy smoking (2+ packs a day). Both of them were stolen in the burglary. Those guys are gonna be surprised to find neither machine reads discs anymore!

And I note that the worst anti smoking enforcers are ex smokers

lobbey: Indeed the worst of all the anti-smoking Nazis. I hated them as a smoker. I hate them now as an ex-smoker. I will never become like that.

General Comment: I hope the outdoor smoking bans fail. I believe they will: Smokers will simply ignore them (and learn to conceal cigs), and the cops have other serious stuff to do. The nonsense collapses fromr non-enforcement. The bans will remain on the books, of course, as a gesture but will have as much practical significance as town councils declaring their burg a Nuclear-Free Zone.

Remember the nationwide 55-mph speed limit? Not too many people drove across Texas at 55-mph…..

MB: Your cig smoke destroyed the innards of my computer [see above]. I am certain it suffered irreparable damage. You are an intolerably provocative, rude, and cruel person. I’m glad you bring those qualities to S,N. This place would be so much duller without you.

TinTin: Superfine photo-shop, especially the fingers!

The problem is under most laws in most developed countries an owner can’t demand their employees be harmed. Once you put yourself in the position of saying secondhand smoke is harmful there isn’t another legal option.

The Netherlands (where we have our home, between world travel) introduced smoking bans in bars in 2008. Two developments make it interesting. Small bars, with no employees (i.e. Mom & Pap brown cafe’s) are exempt. Also coffeeshops, as long as there is no tobacco in your joints……..

no tobacco in your joints

There’s some second-hand smoke I can really get behind!

Once again, lobbey, I’m curious what your occupation is. You seem to have travelled widely in the world. Am I correct in assuming your travels have been largely professional rather than recreational?

May I ask where your home is the Netherlands? (Long ago I had an opportunity to journey there. I used Amsterdam as my base; I visited Haarlem, Den Haag, Leiden, Delft, and Rotterdam.)

Last place to <a href="smoke inside a bar in L.A. (possibly).

Also, it’s now L.A.-illegal to smoke in outdoor dining areas!

I spent substantial time in art museums. I greatly enjoy Old Masters. The Dutch and Flemish schools are among my very favorites. (My other favorites are Venetian and Florentine.)

I also enjoy Impressionist and Post-Impressionist art: The Van Gogh museum captured me and held me entranced for hours and hours.

Gah… my rant about fucking Niall Ferguson just got eaten. The long and the short of it is that he’s an insufferable twit.

Stopped clock, and such as…

Red State Editor-in-Chief and CNN contributor Erick Erickson is “a total douchebag,” wrote Palin speechwriter and domestic policy adviser Rebecca Mansour in a May 22, 2010, message. “Greasy dumb ass with a talent for self-promotion. He threw himself in at the Gov’s SC rally. Self-promotion.”

MB: Solidarity against the smoking Nazis. Remember Kessler, the FDA Commissioner? Perfect name for him.

CRA !!! Hogeye !!

Night Hawks are special birds.

! [missed one]

CRA, fwiw, I agree about N.Ferguson. We saw 10 minutes of The Ascent of Money and that was enough for me. He seemed to imply that regulation of banking systems was A Very Bad Thing and must be avoided.
Pillock

So Democrat Kathy Hochul took that special election from the Republicans in Buffalo, mostly because of the threatend cuts to Medicare…anybody think the Teabaggers are still a viable political force? This district was redder than Alabama.

WTF?

Last place to smoke in a bar in L.A. (possibly).

Thanks for reminding me, CRA.

Niall Ferguson and the brain-dead American right
The British historian owes his celebrity here to the absence of authentic American conservative intellectuals

(Yeah: I typed the 1130 comment above an hr. or so before I posted it, but kept getting redirected, & then forgot about it for a while. Try using your friend, the back button, you may find your comment. At which time WP will advise you it’s a duplicate, & laugh.)

Stopped clock, and such as…

That’s good for a smile first thing in the morning.

“Greasy dumb ass with a talent for self-promotion. He threw himself in at the Gov’s SC rally. Self-promotion.”

If there’s anything that the Palinites really hate, it’s self-promotion.

I think it was Harry Hutton who used to carry around spent cigarette butts, in order to sneakily leave them in places that would alarm the ‘authorities’. Airline seats, cinemas, etc. Heh.

This kind of behavior was unheard of before the Federal government stepped in to the inner cities with their hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars

Every day this person wakes up and the world is BRAND NEW.

I agree about N.Ferguson. We saw 10 minutes of The Ascent of Money and that was enough for me.

Is THAT who that is? Good God, that was an awful program(me), so dishonest.

Re Niall Ferguson: ten years ago, he was an interesting historian. “The Pity of War” is worth a read, although now that’s he’s off the deep end I suggest getting it from a library rather than giving him the royalties.

Re Niall Ferguson: ten years ago, he was an interesting historian.

No, he’s always been a berk, he just used to be a berk about different things.

Yeah, I read several books by Ferguson before I realized what a dipshit (or what kind of dipshit) he was.

But then, I read several books by Victor Davis Hansen in the 90s too. Hey, it was a more innocent time! Don’t judge me! I’ma cut you….

Being interesting and being a berk are not mutually exclusive.

Fenwick – Ah, I see you have hit upon one of the very things that makes me so choleric about the outdoor smoking bans: the fact that law enforcement has better things to do and as a result, they will be ignored.

At least by the cops. Unfortunately, not by the anti-smoking Nazis, who will use their mere presence on the books to harrass, scold, threaten, and otherwise lord it over anyone who deigns to light up outdoors within their line of vision. Which is why, all along, I’ve been ranting about how these laws have nothing to do with health concerns regarding second-hand smoke but rather are about encouraging the general public to do the enforcing by piling on the smokers who are guilty of nothing more than indulging in a habit that remains legal in all 50 states.

As a non-smoker, I see the outdoor smoking situation pretty simply: if the smoker was there first, I ignore him/her or move away. If a smoker stands or sits immediately next to where I already am (say, within five feet), I follow George Carlin’s advice and start farting.

Good God, that was an awful program(me)
Do not make fun of the Victorian affectation of taking perfectly cromulent English words and spelling them in a French way. Over-correction and so forth.

Over-correction and so forth.

Sezze thou.

Why don’t you just say “an history” to trigger me completely?

Triggering Smut.

Triggering the smut.

Cursing the feline fingers.

Anti-smoking nazis. You know, if there’s one group of people that are horribly oppressed and have their freedoms assaulted all the time it’s >strike>white Christian men smokers. Why can’t we go back to teh good old days when you could smoke what doctors smoked. Back before they stopped asking “smoking or non-smoking?” Heck, even further back before they started asking – when teh idea of a non-smoking section was laughable.

How much of your “being harrassed” is actually being harrassed, and how much is missing the olden days when everyone smoked and it wasn’t a hassle at all?

Yeah, all teh revolutionaries were chain-smokers, but smoking doesn’t make you a revolutionary. Are there grasping controlling fucktwits that want to dictate how everybody and their nephew behaves? Yes there are. Is the societal disparagement of cancer-sticks a bad thing? I have to say no.

I agree that outdoor smoking bans have nothing to do with direct health impacts. But I’m not going to get upset about government making an effort to disincetivize smoking. Nor am I going to be all that put out when people treat smokers as pariahs. As I’m sure you’ve heard a hundred million times already, smoking is a disgusting habit.

FYWP. I striked that tag correctamundo-edly.

Cursing the feline fingers.

Or, perhaps, the paws that refreshes.

It’s better to light a single mouse on fire than curse the feline.

Or, perhaps, the paws that refreshes.

Hee hee. A pun with an history.

Hee hee. A pun with an history.

Somehow I see this making Smut go full metal granny.

Your mom’s a disgusting habit!

TruculentandUnreliable said

So, has your desk been moved back against the wall?

Your mom’s a disgusting habit!

Your mom wears a disgusting habit – when we do our roleplay. She really ought to do teh laundry moar often.

As a non-smoker, I see the outdoor smoking situation pretty simply: if the smoker was there first, I ignore him/her or move away. If a smoker stands or sits immediately next to where I already am (say, within five feet), I follow George Carlin’s advice and start farting.

Shorter N_B: Don’t be an asshole.

Problem solved.

Shorter N_B: Don’t be an asshole.

Everyone who has ever known me is laughing out loud.

How much of your “being harrassed” is actually being harrassed, and how much is missing the olden days when everyone smoked and it wasn’t a hassle at all?

I never missed those old days. I liked the idea that smoking was off limits indoors.

I think the bigger point is that we all smoked outside. When someone walking by threw a BF because they could smell some smoke outside, it had the appearance of seeking a confrontation. It was unnecessary butthurt. If you smell some smoke outdoors for a few seconds, chances are you will survive this brush with death. So if you’re walking by a smoker, keep your hole shut and carry on. If you’re a smoker, be fucking polite. It’s really that simple.

Everyone who has ever known me is laughing out loud.

You don’t have to follow your own advice for the advice to be good.

You don’t have to follow your own advice for the advice to be good.

I’ll remember that for future conversations with Mini__B.

You don’t have to follow your own advice for the advice to be good.
I’ll remember that for future conversations with Mini__B.

“Stop crying!”
“Don’t crap your pants!”
“Don’t eat bugs!”

“Get a job”

I always keep a couple spares.

“Wear a Helmut”

Look, I’m not arguing about direct health effects of second hand smoke. When they throw those numbers around about how thousands die from second-hand smoke exposure they don’t mention that the vast majority of those are from folks co-habiting with a smoker, i.e. their exposure is way way moar than occasionally having to walk past them on the way into the building.

But here’s the thing I am arguing – smoking sucks. And I am totes okay with society in general holding that attitude and treating people with the habit badly. I guess because I’m an autocratic totalitarian social engineering leftsist no-fun jerk. But I’d rather be that than have moar people smoking.

In my utopain socialist land of teh North, smoking rates amongst 10 to 14 year olds is really low – like only 3%. But they smoke an average of half a pack a day. That’s fucked up.

So is anybody here contributing a title to the Sarah Palin Movie thread over at Balloon Juice? I really like “Honey, I Exploited the Kids!“, but “Sullivan’s Travails” has a lot going for it.

There should be some more Preston Sturges titles in there…”The Miracle of Moron’s Creek“, “Hail the Conquering Bimbo“. Any ideas?

It’s better to light a single mouse on fire

But if you wrap a bunch of ’em together, they burn brighter.

It’s better to light a single mouse on fire

But if you wrap a bunch of ‘em together, they burn brighter.

Or for the George V Higgins fans who’ve read “The Rat On Fire”, they can be used for arson.

There should be some more Preston Sturges titles in there…”The Miracle of Moron’s Creek“, “Hail the Conquering Bimbo“. Any ideas?

The Lady dEVEo

and, obviously, the Great McPalin. Or maybe the Grate McPalin.

But here’s the thing I am arguing – smoking sucks

Agreed–no argument here. I’m not quitting solely for health reasons, I don’t like being seen smoking either.

And I am totes okay with society in general holding that attitude and treating people with the habit badly

Sure–like we do with pot smokers, drunks, addicts of any sort. It’s definitely an effective prevention measure, right?

Look, validating the behavior isn’t ok, I get that. Treating smokers like second class citizens won’t reduce the rate of smoking, it just makes you feel superior.

I’ve struggled to quit for about five years now, and it looks like I’ve finally made it. But my “insurance” doesn’t cover stop smoking aids. There is no program to get help with these things. There are no treatment facilities, nothing. I just have to invest in a risky method and most likely fail at it again.

If you non-smokers and the government are serious about getting rid of smoking, put some money into treatment programs and get addicts the help they need. As a newly minted non-smoker, I would support anything to help people get free of those disgusting fucking things. I certainly will not challenge an addict and treat them like garbage simply because I don’t like cigarettes. I didn’t like cigarettes and smoking when I did smoke.

As a newly minted non-smoker, I would support anything to help people get free of those disgusting fucking things.

How do you feel about the Ludovico Technique?

OT: This is reassuring.

Course, it won’t hurt Arpaio a bit – he’s a hero, cleaning his own house up. Still worth linking to.

I’ll remember that for future conversations with Mini__B.

All parents are hypocrites. We’re trying to build a better generation. Good parents recognize their own faults and try to train that out of their children.

How do you feel about the Ludovico Technique?

I’m not sure how watching a bit of the ‘ol in-out will help me stop smoking.

@ N_B:

“Palin Bitch Story“.

Look, validating the behavior isn’t ok, I get that. Treating smokers like second class citizens won’t reduce the rate of smoking, it just makes you feel superior.

[citation required]

I get your point about treating addicts like shit being a stupid thing to do, but I am not advocating for jail sentences or no-knock raids or other War on Drugs approaches. Just social ostracism. And making smoking really awkward to do. I totally agree with the idea that if society thinks smoking is really that bad then it should be made outright illegal. And I agree that smoking is not that bad. All that plus that sort of ban has a tendency to raise the banned substances (heh Substance is BANNED) appeal.

I am all for treatment programs. Smoking is an addiction and should be treated as such.

But here’s the deal – as much as current smokers feel that they are horribly badly treated, smoking is still seen as “normal”. In some cases, it is still seen as “glamorous” and “cool”. That’s the part I want to change.

When did you start smoking? How old were you? Would you still have started it if smoking was as awkward and unpleasant as it is now?

Would you still have started it if smoking was as awkward and unpleasant as it is now?

OTOH, I am still addicted to doing your mom.

I hate Niall Ferguson with the white hot heat of a thousand sons-of-bitches. Fucker is dishonest as well as wrong. That he has a column in the new Newsweek brochure makes me crazy.

Doing your Mom on the other hand.

There is no peak wingnut.

It’s when you go out of your way to treat smokers badly that you become an asswipe. I’m looking at you D-KW.

But here’s the deal – as much as current smokers feel that they are horribly badly treated, smoking is still seen as “normal”. In some cases, it is still seen as “glamorous” and “cool”. That’s the part I want to change

By and large, I think this change has already happened. Many smokers still feel a streak of defiance, but I haven’t felt glamorous or cool smoking in a long long time. I’ve felt ashamed and embarassed of it for at least 10 years.

I started when I was 16 (1985). It was VERY cool and glamorous back then. You could also smoke anywhere. Looking back, that seems like the dark ages–I remember going to basic training on an airplane, sitting in the back smoking a cigarette–WTF?

Monday Night Football at a friend’s house, about 20 people are there, I’m the only smoker. After we eat, after I have a beer, I get up, go outside in the rain and snow all alone and smoke my cigarette. I come back and sit my stinky ass on the couch, painfully aware that the smell is gagging the poor bastard next to me.

For those of us who aren’t MRA’s, smoking is plenty awkward and unpleasant. We’re getting there–I just see no reason to accost some smoker standing on a sidewalk feeding his/her addiction.

I also disagree, smoking IS that bad, and I don’t see a need for it to exist. It doesn’t nothing for you, it doesn’t get you high, it just gets you addicted and you spend your life feeding a need. At least heroin and meth and crack have a benefit. Cigarettes don’t. It’s not like other banned Substances (heh) that actually get you high.

OTOH, I am still addicted to doing your mom.

We all have our vices.

There is no peak wingnut.

holy shit…how crazy do you have to be?!?

just curious here…since we’re speaking of the smoking-nazis (of which my mother is an egregious example) and OUTDOOR smoking…would they give a morbidly obese person sitting on a bench munching on a twinkie the same treatment?

how crazy do you have to be?!?

Crazy enough to believe that the Ryan Plan is about reducing the deficit; crazy enough to doubt the governor and secretary of state of Hawaii; crazy enough to discuss Palin’s and Bachman’s “hotness” as a qualification for office.

How high is the sky? How deep is the ocean?

would they give a morbidly obese person sitting on a bench munching on a twinkie the same treatment?

Why, when it’s much more fun to play keep-away with the twinkie.

How high is the sky? How deep is the ocean? how deep is your beegee?

just curious here…since we’re speaking of the smoking-nazis (of which my mother is an egregious example) and OUTDOOR smoking…would they give a morbidly obese person sitting on a bench munching on a twinkie the same treatment?

Meh–not totally sure that compares, aside from being another self destructive addiction that damages lives and families.

I guess to shorter my whole point: If you want make a change, attack the smoking itself with education and treatment and regulation. Randomly attacking individual smokers won’t change a thing, it just makes you look petty and arrogant.

why? how does it affect your life?

Directly? It doesn’t. Neither is my life affected by people living in poverty. Nor is my life affected by ghey people facing discrimination. I live a pretty comfortable and very sheltered life. That’s probably why I talk so much shit on teh toobules.

So maybe the argument should be about “how socially acceptable smoking should be”. I think it’s really low. Judging by the enthusiasm people have for quitting, I’d say that those that know better what smoking’s like agree that it sucks.

I am pro-personal liberty. I am for folks being able to do what they want, so long as they aren’t harming others, including smoking. But that doesn’t necessarily preclude discouraging unpleasant habits.

What place society? That’s certainly another part of it. Sure it isn’t society’s role to enforce healthy behaviours in all her members. I was kidding about teh whole nanny-state autocrat thing earlier. But only a little.

So I support the idea that people should be allowed to smoke if they really want to – but I also support making smoking seem so totally shitty that most people won’t. Do I feel bad that this makes smokers feel bad? A little – especially thems that are trying to quit. Do I feel bad that this makes me the asshole? If it means smoking is less attractive – then no, I don’t feel bad about that at all.

aside from being another self destructive addiction that damages lives and families.

exactly…you’re not hurting anyone but you and yours…

it was awkward and unpleasant sneaking them all the time, and that’s exactly what it feels like today…

Right. It’s not quite teh same. Your entire family smoked. The problem wasn’t about getting caught doing something disgusting – it was about getting caught doing something totally acceptable – but too early. It’s teh difference between getting caught with pr0n as a teen and getting caught with furry pr0n at any age.

Directly? It doesn’t. Neither is my life affected by people living in poverty. Nor is my life affected by ghey people facing discrimination. I live a pretty comfortable and very sheltered life. That’s probably why I talk so much shit on teh toobules.

So maybe the argument should be about “how socially acceptable smoking should be”. I think it’s really low.

but your basic human decency compels you to want better for the poor and those that are discriminated against…to alleviate their suffering, right? and everyone should be allowed a decent standard of living…

as far as making the argument about how socially acceptable smoking should be, i’m not sure this is the way to go either…after all, people have plenty of disgusting and unhealthy habits. and why is smoking seen as sinful? it’s not like drugs or booze where someone can get all hepped up on them and kill someone or commit some other crime they wouldn’t do sober…i am really curious about why smoking is seen as evil…

i quit mostly because of family history and an alarming sore-ish throat and tickle that wouldn’t go away…and the amount of money i was spending on them…which arguably at about 2 packs/week isn’t breaking the bank, it’s still money wasted…and going to corporate pieces of shit who are doing their damndest to make sure smokers stay hooked…

getting caught with furry pr0n at any age.

this made me laff…

Randomly attacking individual smokers won’t change a thing, it just makes you look petty and arrogant.

Well, this is true – and that’s the part that bothers me. How do you go about changing attitudes? It’s not easy.

Anyways, my part of it is deluding myself – pretending that we do live in a world where smoking really is as socially unacceptable as put-upon smokers feel it is. So I behave like that’s the world I’m in.

Also, all y’all who are tryin to quit – I’d say kudos, but it would be pretty meaningless. I have no concept of how difficult it is – just that it is hard as hell. Really, I’m pretty ignorant about what it is like to be a smoker. Still, tip of the hat for tackling it – I’m pretty sure I lack the discipline to be able to quit myself – so better man than I &c.

How deep is the ocean?

Up to 10,971 metres in the Marianas Trench.

What?

bbkf said,

May 25, 2011 at 17:21 (kill)

just curious here…since we’re speaking of the smoking-nazis (of which my mother is an egregious example) and OUTDOOR smoking…would they give a morbidly obese person sitting on a bench munching on a twinkie the same treatment?

Are you kidding? Fat people are the last absolutely safe targets. Smokers will occasionally argue back. And as one of my sockpuppets pointed out above, when you’ve got the innert00bz all atwitter over how disgustingly fat Jennifer Love Hewitt is, who among us is safe?

In other news, Gingrich has added Zell Miller to his team. Maybe Newt will challenge Christiane Amanpour to a duel!

A new film about Sarah Palin is called “The Undefeated.” Hehe. Setting aside the election. The first thing sensible people think of her is “idiot,” not “indomitable,” but the latter is the view of her base. Palin can snark from the sidelines, badly, with no responsibilities to speak of, and be declared “undefeated.” What conflicts were these? Their importance was to whom? I know picking on Palin is easy, but really, must our Margaret Thatcher, our dauntless female Reagan, or whatever, be merely an irrelevant MILF?

…i am really curious about why smoking is seen as evil…

You know – this is a tough one. We all laugh at teh furries, but what they’re doing is less harmful and self-destructive than smoking (unless you’re a furry exhibitionist who does care about what others think of you).

Certainly there’s the health effects and the immediate local environmental effects. But are these so strong that they justify outdoor smoking bans? I don’t think so.

Perhaps it’s an over-reaction. That smoking was so acceptable for so long that the backlash has gone too far. There’s also the zeal of the converted from ex-smokers too.

In my case, and I am a bit ashamed of this argument, it’s about teh childrens (and this probably explains why I’m so allupons about it right now). That stupid wingnut save teh babbies kneejerk reaction. Teh “some of my friends are smokers but I don’t want them to infect my daughter with their cooties” thing. Yeah – it’s dumb. How’s being a jerk towards smokers going to keep kids smoke-free? I have no idea.

I’m pretty sure I lack the discipline to be able to quit myself – so better man than I &c.

which is prolly how i would feel if i had to give up having sex with moms…

my true test will come tomorrow night and the weekend…i work thurs/fri bartending which is not the hard part…it’s the afterwork festivities wherein i usually overserve myself that might be problematic…

what’s that, you say? just go home and forsake the afterwork festivities? the problem there is that we have company coming this weekend, both of whom are smokers…as is teh hubby…

protips would be helpful right now…although i plan on relying heavily on the putting it off for 20 minute trick…

We all laugh at teh furries,

Just like the Repubs all hate on the gheyz.

which is prolly how i would feel if i had to give up having sex with moms…

Fortunately no one EVAR has to give up having sex with moms. Even if most moms find you unappealing, Whale Chowder’s mom will do anyone.

when you’ve got the innert00bz all atwitter over how disgustingly fat Jennifer Love Hewitt is, who among us is safe?

this are so true tvrbok…whilst i’m not hideously overweight i could stand to loose a good 30 lbs, i still don’t like to eat in public because of the perceived ‘do you really think your fat ass should be eating that?’ look…but attacking fat people and making them feel bad is more surreptitious than walking up to smoker and harranguing them…

dammit all to hell…i made the classic loose/lose spelling mistake that is my biggest pet peeve!!!

Congrats to D-KW. You have changed my mind, convinced me thoroughly. I shall start smoking again. I am off to buy a pack of smokes so that I can smoke them in the park. Just to piss off people like you. Oh, I hope someone accosts me, I get a kick out of confrontation..

re: furries and teh ghey

Yeah. Where’s teh justice? Why is being a furry seen as moar distasteful than being a smoker?

My gut reaction is to pick chain-smoking over yiffing – but I dont know why. Thinking about it in moar detail, it’s obviously teh wrnog choice. Teh fursuit is nowhere near as bad for me as smokes.

Note: Smoking in a fursuit is right out. Too many of them have high polyester content.

dkw are you a smoker?

Teh fursuit is nowhere near as bad for me as smokes.

Until superglue makes an unwanted appearance.

Even if most moms find you unappealing, Whale Chowder’s mom will do anyone.

Yeah, sadly, mom’s self-image really suffered after she sank to doing you.

Fortunately, being a motherfucker is a more-or-less victimless crime. As long as you don’t do it upwind of me.

as is teh hubby…

I hesitate to say this for fear of discouraging you…

Ruh roh Reorge. The only way we could make it is both being on the wagon simultaneously. use an e-cig / gum / anything to help you get through it. You can do it.

Congrats to D-KW.

Really? Okay.

Anyways, I guess I have been footbulleting. Teh thing that set me off was this whole membership-in-a-cool-sekrit-society bit. I kinda forgot that pissing off sanctimonious jerkwads is a reward in its own right.

Sorry for teh threadjack – I’ll shut up now about smoking and smokers.

as is teh hubby…

Ruh roh Reorge.

yeah…it makes it difficult, but like i’ve said, i’ve done it a million times! how hard can it be to quit!

srsly, though he is strongly contemplating it…he has a rx for chantix and he’s been seeing the anti-smoking doc that i mentioned upthread…he’s just one of those people who you can’t tell to do anything or they will do it even more…he wants to quit because he is a cheap-ass and feels guilty for spending over $100/month on smokes…this is the angle i have to play to…

pissing off sanctimonious jerkwads is a reward in its own right. the Tea party’s entire reason for existing

FTFY

I’ll shut up now about smoking and smokers

dang…i was enjoying having a non-flammatory (see what i did there?) discussion about smoking…

The animus toward smokers was brought on by people like my father. Considerate smokers are now far more common (among the remnant that smokes). Outdoor smoking bans seem ill-considered in that most outdoor smoking has potential for harmlessness– the offender could wait, move a bit further away, etc. It is not their smoking that (reasonably) offends, but its proximity. Which makes the focus on locales a curious one. Both smokers and people who refuse to inhale second-hand smoke are mobile, in large part (though not on the job, in some cases, for example). Locales are relevant for various properties — ventilation, their tendency to tether folks, who knows what else — but all these properties relate back to people in but a step or two.

Not that I now how anti-smoking courtesy laws might be aimed at mobile people as opposed to locales of certain descriptions, which is to say, the air that’s there at the time.

bbkf: hang in there, girl. You can stop. Maybe you could persuade your smoker friends & guests to take it outside?

Also, and I hesitate to say this, if you fall off the wagon this weekend you haven’t yet failed until you give up. So even if the temptation is too strong this weekend, put ’em away again and climb back up on the horse. Be strong.

<i.bbkf: hang in there, girl. You can stop. Maybe you could persuade your smoker friends & guests to take it outside?

Also, and I hesitate to say this, if you fall off the wagon this weekend you haven’t yet failed until you give up. So even if the temptation is too strong this weekend, put ‘em away again and climb back up on the horse. Be strong.

thanks, whalie…i will give it my all…

d’oh…classic bbkftagfail…

<i.

Don’t ever change your tagfail, darlin’.

Dang, tsam. You had much less of a habit than I did – but when you live and work alone, there’s not really anything to put the brakes on the habit. I’m not even gonna say how much I smoked, but let’s put it this way: I’m on day 7 of the quit and already I’ve saved over $50. The bigger deal, to my mind anyway, is that up until a week ago, I had not gone one single day in my entire adult life without smoking at least one cigarette.

Dang, tsam. You had much less of a habit than I did – but when you live and work alone, there’s not really anything to put the brakes on the habit. I’m not even gonna say how much I smoked, but let’s put it this way: I’m on day 7 of the quit and already I’ve saved over $50. The bigger deal, to my mind anyway, is that up until a week ago, I had not gone one single day in my entire adult life without smoking at least one cigarette.

yay for you! i am on day 6?!?! wow…where has the time gone?

Kansas Rep. Pete DeGraaf: Being impregnated during a rape is just like getting a flat tire

Now I kinda want to see someone slash his tires.

<i.

Don’t ever change your tagfail, darlin’.

at this point in the game it’s not likely…

Kansas Rep. Pete DeGraaf: Being impregnated during a rape is just like getting a flat tire

Now I kinda want to see someone slash his tires.

aside from pedo-priests, dude’s possibly the worst. pastor. ever.

bbkf – if you’re on day 6, there’s no turning back now. Yes, it will be hard doing the bartending thing this eve & tomorrow…but you don’t want to have to go through the past 6 days all over again, so hang tough! If you need an e-ciggy, go get one. I’ve been using two other tricks as well – I have a coated elastic on my left wrist that I would pop every time I thought I had to have a cig (it broke after a couple of days & I had to replace it) – here the last 2 or 3 days I haven’t been popping it. Also, too: I have been writing down the date and how much I would have spent on cigarettes that day, and adding it into a running total as I go along each day, and have it posted on the fridge. That, perhaps more than anything else, will keep me from buying any more cigarettes. It’s just a monumental waste of money.

“Now I kinda want to see someone slash his tires.”

Given the analogy that DeGraaf made, I don’t wanna imagine what you could mean.

jennifer…thanks for the tips…i’ve heard of the elastic band thingy but never tried it cuz i didn’t think it would work…i think the total on the fridge would be really good to use…also, might encourage teh hubby to start adding to it…thanks for all the encouragement too…as you know, it helps A LOT!

Given the analogy that DeGraaf made, I don’t wanna imagine what you could mean.

shazam!

I’m on day 7 of the quit and already I’ve saved over $50.

That’s a pretty nice raise.

who are guilty of nothing more than indulging in a habit that remains legal in all 50 states.

A friend of mine, non-smoker btw, gets all bent about the smoking in bars ban as an example of government excess by stating that smoking is legal and how can they say you can’t do something legal blahblahblah. I reply that masturbation is legal, but if I whipped it out at the bar, somebody might have a thing or two to say about it.

But yeah, bus stops aside, outdoor bans are silly.

bbkf – boatloads of encouragement for you!!! Don’t know if any of those tips will help you or not…honestly, the elastic band thingy doesn’t take away the desire for a smoke; it’s really more a reminder that I don’t really NEED one. Kind of a “snap you out of it” trick. But you might find other things work better for you. Lots of folks chew gum, but I’ve never liked chewing gum and have a crown that’s not feeling as tight as it should so that’s out. You’ve got a harder hill to climb what with being behind a bar…my strategy was to just STAY HOME the first few days and sleep as much as possible – options not open to most people. But it’s weird, I’ve noticed over the past day or two I’m thinking less and less about lighting up. For the first few days I would constantly forget that I was quitting and either reach for a cig or think to myself, “as soon as I finish x I’m going to go have a smoke.” That is definitely declining in frequency. Hopefully you are experiencing the same, though I know it has to be hard when you’re seeing people light up right in front of you.

I reply that masturbation is legal, but if I whipped it out at the bar, somebody might have a thing or two to say about it.

Well, here there is no specific law against masturbation in bars, so if you manage to do it in a way that is not lewd or lascivious there’s no worries.

Hogeye – I wouldn’t even go so far as to say that all outdoor bans (except bus stops) are silly – as I noted yesterday, if the Parks Dept. can’t afford to clean up thousands of cigarette butts and the people who are smoking keep throwing them around, then yeah, I can understand saying “it’s illegal to smoke in the park, because we can’t afford to clean up after you.”

Just don’t tell me it’s because of health concerns about second-hand smoke. Because it isn’t.

This is my biggest problem in life, probably. The outsized rage I feel when someone just spouts out obviously patent bullshit to my face and blithely assumes that I’m so fucking stupid that I’ll accept it.

As you might imagine, I stay pissed off a good part of the time.

And I’m sure in this post-Internet Rule 34’d world, if you masturbate to bars, there’s likely to be a website for you to go to.

Rep. Pete DeGraaf, a Mulvane Republican who supports the bill, told her: “We do need to plan ahead, don’t we, in life?”

“I also have life insurance,” he added. “I have a lot of things that I plan ahead for.”

The bill he supports BANS insurance from covering abortions and would require women buy special add-on policies, so even in his cock-eyed scenario it would more like if your auto insurer was FORBIDDEN to offer roadside assistance (unless you were about to die) and you had to get spare tires under the table or from out of state.

“I reply that masturbation is legal, but if I whipped it out at the bar, somebody might have a thing or two to say about it.”

Not to be that anti-theist campaigner but that reminds me of one of the best lines I’ve heard: Religion is like a PENIS. It’s fine that you have one and that you are proud of it. When you insist on waving it in people’s faces and shoving it down throats then it becomes a problem.

Also, all y’all who are tryin to quit – I’d say kudos, but it would be pretty meaningless. I have no concept of how difficult it is – just that it is hard as hell. Really, I’m pretty ignorant about what it is like to be a smoker. Still, tip of the hat for tackling it – I’m pretty sure I lack the discipline to be able to quit myself – so better man than I &c.

It wouldn’t be meaningless in the least. Any encouragment is good.

Well i didn’t get to the store yesterday for flour and plain old eggs and semolina with which to make lasagna so I cheaped out last night. Fried up some lamb sausages I picked up at the marmer’s farket, home fries with some smoked Spanish paprika and fried duck eggs. And a green salad. The place now smells of lamb sausage and smoked Spanish paprika. Maybe I’ll try setting out bowls of cider vinegar.

This is my biggest problem in life, probably. The outsized rage I feel when someone just spouts out obviously patent bullshit to my face and blithely assumes that I’m so fucking stupid that I’ll accept it.

As you might imagine, I stay pissed off a good part of the time.

Me too, and this has proven to be my worst enemy in my quit battle.

However, on day 17, I feel like I’m over the worst of it.

The place now smells of lamb sausage and smoked Spanish paprika.

You say that like it’s a BAD thing.

Given the analogy that DeGraaf made, I don’t wanna imagine what you could mean.

Dozens of masturbation analogies posted in this thread alone and NOW you get squeamish?

Dang, tsam. You had much less of a habit than I did – but when you live and work alone, there’s not really anything to put the brakes on the habit. I’m not even gonna say how much I smoked, but let’s put it this way: I’m on day 7 of the quit and already I’ve saved over $50. The bigger deal, to my mind anyway, is that up until a week ago, I had not gone one single day in my entire adult life without smoking at least one cigarette.

1 pack per day for me, x $8/pack in Washington x 17 days = $ 136.00 savings thus far. Holy shit. I owe myself a blowjob.

Isn’t that like 136 at the rate DKW’s mom charges?

Isn’t that like 136 at the rate DKW’s mom charges

For the whole week, yes.

One moar smoking comment.

I owe myself a blowjob.

If you can do that, why teh hell did you start smoking in teh first place?

This kind of behavior was unheard of before the Federal government stepped in to the inner cities with their hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars…Could it be that before “Big Brother” people were busy making a living and didn’t have time for mischief?

No, they were too busy terrorizing black people, and burning down the middle-class black section of Tulsa.

Frying up the lamb sausage.

But seriously, is anybody but me wondering how the famous deli scene would have turned out if Harry and Sally’s roles were reversed?

This kind of behavior was unheard of before the Federal government stepped in to the inner cities with their hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars…Could it be that before “Big Brother” people were busy making a living and didn’t have time for mischief?

Awww, look at the retard do a rhetorical question. How cute. It’s like when monkeys fling poop.

,,,Harry and Sally’s roles were reversed?

People ordering their pastrami with no mayo?

If you non-smokers and the government are serious about getting rid of smoking, put some money into treatment programs and get addicts the help they need. As a newly minted non-smoker, I would support anything to help people get free of those disgusting fucking things

Sorry, tsam. Gubmint doesn’t want you to stop smoking. Because you be paying lotsa tax money (my Spanish colleague can’t believe how much tax he pays (and I used to pay)) on tobacco when he compares the price of tobacco in the UK as compared to Spain) as a tobacco purchaser.

Also, you die younger and more rapidly and save everyone lotsa tax dollars they would have otherwise spent on looking after you while you enjoy your long and healthy retirement. How much does it cost to pay for the health services of a prematurely dying lung cancer (kthxbai) sufferer when you compare that cost to the overall amount spent on non-smokers.

Troll-ish and distrustful thing to say, I know.

At any rate, now we can move on to the next Apple out­rage. I’m bet­ting on long lines for the crap­pers at WWDC.

Hiding their bagels?

“kappa kappa wong said”

Should I try to get my “cigarettes for the homeless” campaign restarted?

People ordering their pastrami with no mayo?

Hiding their bagels?

(Sorry, that other quote was from the Angry Drunk. I don’t know how this one didn’t replace it in my clipboard.)

I think reminding all glibertarians out there that Ayn Rand loved smoking and insisted her followers were smokers would be a really good thing…

The place now smells of lamb sausage and smoked Spanish paprika.

Maybe an indoor merguez ban needs to be put in place.

And also too: To the Sadlies mid-quit — next time you want a smoke, just remind yourself that zombie Ayn Rand loves you…

But seriously, is anybody but me wondering how the famous deli scene would have turned out if Harry and Sally’s roles were reversed?

How about if the song “I Touch Myself” had been sung by a d00d?

Awww, look at the retard do a rhetorical question. How cute. It’s like when monkeys fling poop.

i must heartily AHEM you here, good sir…i detest the usage of the ‘r’ word because my daughter are one…

the price of tobacco in the UK

my favourite thing about ciggies in the uk (besides them being dunhills) was the big honking warning on the front of the pack: THESE WILL KILL YOU and if that didn’t work: THESE WILL HARM YOUR UNBORN FETUS

I think reminding all glibertarians out there that Ayn Rand loved smoking and insisted her followers were smokers would be a really good thing

now i just kind of want to barf…

and isn’t it about time for a new thread? surely some act of wingnuttery worthy of note has taken place…

How about if the song “I Touch Myself” had been sung by a d00d?

I’m thinking something this.

“Dozens of masturbation analogies posted in this thread alone and NOW you get squeamish?”

Nah, I was faking it for fun’s sake, like when I referred to Palin as a MILF. I still think fondly of masturbation, and the woman is repellent.

The GOP could, in the spirit of fairness, demand that we anticipate every type of crime against our real persons and fictitious entities, and arrange for “spare tires” (whatever the fuck that would mean)* or accept our possible fates. But characteristically, they’re picking on women.

*The only “spare tires” that make any sense are already embraced by liberals: a less hurtful culture, egalitarian law enforcement funded by progressive taxation, and so on.

Argh.

,,,something LIKE this.

I’m thinking something this.

Too coy, the “MR” is veiled… I’m thinking more along the lines of:

Hey, babe, gee you’re really sweet,
When I think about you I beat my meat.

How about if the song “I Touch Myself” had been sung by a d00d?

I Scare Myself?

With a prophylactic FYWP.

Falling on the fitting.

Hey, babe, gee you’re really sweet,
When I think about you I beat my meat.

the wimmins must just flock to you…

Should I try to get my “cigarettes for the homeless” campaign restarted?

Erm, well it has been two months for me, but when I used to* smoke, I wouldn’t hand cash out to homeless addicts, but offer a cigarette.

*Pending, too early to tell.

“I owe myself a blowjob.” –“If you can do that, why teh hell did you start smoking in teh first place?”

I’ve never woken up disappointed that my cigarette wasn’t actually in my mouth.

But then, I’m a non-smoker (except in the Fenwickian sense, and that only for a limited time longer).

demand that we anticipate every type of crime against our real persons and fictitious entities, and arrange for “spare tires” (whatever the fuck that would mean)*

in that case, all women would look like this:

Let me clarify that last statement: By homeless addicts, I mean homeless people that are obviously hard drug addicts.

I don’t want anybody else
When I think about you
My pants, they swells
Oh I don’t want anybody else
When I think about you
Teh toob sock fills.