Even Worse, Apparently, Than Being FRENCH


ABOVE: Scott “Not Jewish” Johnson

Shorter Scott “The Baptist” Johnson, Powerwhite
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  • Here’s a big surprise: Dominique Strauss-Kahn is a JEW.

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Comments: 374

 
 
 

premiere!

 
 

french, jew, fag, or both? you decide!

 
 

“No,” I thought, “he can’t actually have said that.” I should know by now to always trust the shorter.

 
 

You know who ELSE was not a Jew?

 
 

Racism is a strong accusation, and I don’t like making it unless I’m absolutely and totally sure it’s true – the casual “they don’t like Obama because he’s black” type comments bother me for that reason.

But this post makes no sense…even the supporters in the comments are confused…without anti-semitism, that is, to make it all clear.

What he’s saying, for those unable to risk your delicate and dainty little heads, is that the Jewish people are typically insecure, and there was a comedy bit about how we reject people that are obviously Jewish that make all of us look bad. Madoff, for instance? Not Jewish. Ha ha.

Now we’ve got another guy to add to the list: that poon-hound IMF chief.

Yeesh, conservative humor is an oxymoron.

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Nearly on topic. A kinda mashup Hitler vid of various persons and topics. See it before it gets flagged for obscenity and other offenses.
For amusement (maybe) only. Not intended to be a factual statement.

 
Ted the Slacker
 

Oh noes, a chicken-noodle soup eating surrender monkey!

 
 

sham – low sodium hunchback said,

May 17, 2011 at 15:34 (kill)

That was awesome.

 
 

Can someone remind me again why it matters fuckall if anyone’s jewish or not?

 
 

Take a Robert Klein bit, take out the self-conscious irony, and you too can gripe about them Jooz without having to actually say it.

 
 

…unless I’m absolutely and totally sure it’s true – the casual “they don’t like Obama because he’s black” type comments bother me for that reason.

Let me set your heart at ease on that score:

The “Kenyan usurper” and closely related “We’re taking our country back” screeds were not just about a birth certificate.

The G.O.P. has been running their Southern Strategy since Richard Nixon. You think they were going to give it up when the a black Democrat is elected president (by a large majority)?

I’ve got my own problems with Obama (because of his Republican light and Bush’s 3rd term policies), but the claim that he isn’t our legitimate president is firmly rooted in racism.
~

 
 

What I would like to know is how he can claim to be a “socialist” and run a brutally fascist organization like the IMF.

 
 

No, see, it’s not racist because he’s talking about a BLACK comedian calling people ni… why are you looking at me like that?

 
 

What I would like to know is how he can claim to be a “socialist” and run a brutally fascist organization like the IMF.

And stay in $3k/night rooms, and terrorize an ACTUAL laborer…

 
 

What I would like to know is how he can claim to be a “socialist” and run a brutally fascist organization like the IMF.

Fascism IS left wing. Haven’t you heard?

 
Ted the Slacker
 

“the claim that he isn’t our legitimate president is firmly rooted in racism.”

The Common nontroversy likewise. Enter a black rapper, and the dogwhistle could hardly be louder.

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Lawnguylander,

Thanks, I think.

 
 

Yeah, that was pretty fucking sweet.

 
 

sham – low sodium hunchback said,

May 17, 2011 at 15:34

Nearly on topic. A kinda mashup Hitler vid of various persons and topics.

Awesome. Adding it to my own pointing and laughing at Althouse (with proper attribution, of course).
~

 
 

Sheisse! hunchback, that was teh BESTEST YOUTUBE EVAR!!!1one!!

 
 

French Jewish Fag?

nomnomnomnomnom

Heard someone say on Malloy that a French Socialist is equivalent to a Blue Dog, or an 80’s style conservative (pre-full-blown takeover of cons by neocons and talibangelicals), where yeah, the people should get some support, but class, specifically your pre-existing class denomination, is all that really matters.

Also, frenching the fag.

 
 

If only he was gay, he’d be Satan.

 
 

Nearly on topic. A kinda mashup Hitler vid of various persons and topics.

Excellent.

 
paleotectonics
 

Anonymous was me. FYFB.

On principle, always FYFB.

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

You are all too kind.

 
 

Jon Stewart crystallized the entire incident – DSK is an actual living analogy of world politics – the IMF rapes a powerless African.

Stewart said it was like he was posing for his own political cartoon about what the IMF does to third world countries.

 
 

Most excellent! Hopefully Tintin will front-page it so that Anal T. House will see it. Only thing missing that I could see, sham, was a pretty obvious opportunity to riff on VPRs.

 
 

BTW, zrm, there’s hot zombie birthday action over at my joint.

 
 

It is not necessary to front page stuff to get me to pay attention. Partisanly and unethically stealing my name, which is mine, sometimes brings me around.

 
 

Partisanly and unethically stealing my name

How would you prefer we steal your name?

 
 

The previous common tater is not, in fact, Ann Althaus.

I expect the authorities in charge of this FSMforsaken corner of the internet to delete the comment, make an apology, and link to my blog, Ann Althaus.

I am a Law Professor, you know.
~

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Good point Jennifer. I might just take it down and edit it a bit.
It was the first one I ever did, so kinda clunky and frustrating getting the timing as i learned how to do it… it got somewhat sacrificed to ‘just finish it’.

 
 

It’s bad enough that you uncivilized and ignorant asses are obsessed with me, but you had better not have any breasts.

 
 

I wonder if Duane Cord Woad Meade patrols YouTube for mentions of his boxed-wine connoisseur partner in stupidity sugar momma beloved, as well.

 
Ann Althouse, who is Spearhafoc
 

stealing my name, which is mine, sometimes brings me around

The very fact that you went out of your way to point that out is very suspicious. What are you hiding about the true owner of your name?

 
 

Meade patrols YouTube

Shirley you meant Annservant Hecubus?
~
~

 
 

I’d say that’s a helluva first draft, in that case. Wasn’t meaning to nitpick, honestly. It’s just there was one point where I was just waiting and expecting to see VPR (or a VPR). Really, something like this could be tinkered with forever. I keep wanting to do something on the concept of “how would Fox News have covered the Crucifixition?” – keeping in mind of course that Christianity didn’t yet exist. A veritable goldmine of lulz waiting there.

 
 

Shirley you meant Annservant Hecubus?

Fuck! I forgot. Obviously, I should never take a break from these internets again.

 
 

Comedian Robert Klein

this was not intended as a factual statement…

 
 

T&U, I had been wondering where you’d been, and then…*POOF!*…you appear.

You must have been overwhelmed by the force of my psychic mind powers and compelled to log in.

As they say, resistance is useless.

 
 

Using Your Left-Wing Terms of Attack Properly 101:

Fascism: a revolutionary right-wing movement that seeks the eradication of liberalism and socialism (and Enlightenment philosophies in general) through the myth of national rebirth and its unity under a leader figure. Usually highly critical of laissez-faire, it demands direct state intervention in the economy (mainly because it sees a laissez faire state to be weak against, and therefore objectively pro-, communist influence).

Ergo, not the IMF.

Neoliberalism: a doctrine of extreme economic laissez-faire that seeks the abolition of all state intervention in international trade. In contrast with libertarianism, it does wish for the existence of an international body or court (WTO) that legislate trade, usually through sanctionning state actors that contravene a body of agreed upon pro-business laws (intellectual property rights, and so on).

Neocolonialism: a continuation of Western colonial policies done by non-state actors, mainly private corporations and the organizations representing them. A consequence of continuing colonialism while taking power away from the state and putting it into the hands of privatized entities.

Now, those two you can accuse the IMF of.

 
 

sham – low sodium hunchback said,

May 17, 2011 at 15:34 (kill)

effing brilliant, sodie! i almost peed myself…

 
 

You must have been overwhelmed by the force of my psychic mind powers and compelled to log in.

Orrr…I am simply a product of your imagination.

 
 

Well of course he is Jewish. In charge of all the money in the world, what else would he be (certainly not French)? Face plant.

 
 

Orrr…I am simply a product of your imagination

wait…so, you’re tintin?!?!?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

How soon before Powerline puts up the “WHY ARE J00Z LIBRUL?!?!?” post?

 
 

Randroids vs. the mystics

This should be interesting in a monkey knife fight sort of way.

 
 

ya know how twatnozzles are always referring to obambi as ‘the one’? well guess what? dolce and gabban beg to differ

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Hunchback, I wanna have your babies!

 
 

hunchback, let me add my voice to the chorus: well done! I’m lucky my cow-orkers are late arrivers or I would have had to explain the stifled snorts coming from my cube.

 
 

Usually highly critical of laissez-faire, it demands direct state intervention in the economy (mainly because it sees a laissez faire state to be weak against, and therefore objectively pro-, communist influence).

Well, it helps that most fascist movements came to power in a time when laissez faire theory was pretty much at its lowest popularity point evar.

That said, big businessmen usually did quite well under Nazi rule unless they were Jewish or politically undesirable (e.g. not because they were businessmen). Workers and those who spoke out for them, not so much. And the most radical, anticapitalist part of the Nazi movement (centered around the SA) were either neutered or exterminated very quickly after Hitler had come to power, leaving little doubt that he preferred his new, middle and upper class supporters, to the lower class skinheads he’d originally signed up to lead.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

dolce and gabban beg to differ

That’s merely a plot by Duce and Obama. LIBRUL FASCISM ISREAL!

 
 

That said, big businessmen usually did quite well under Nazi rule unless they were Jewish or politically undesirable

Nobody, including “communist” Russia, escapes the clutches of oligarchal tendencies.

See also: Oskar Schindler.

 
 

The conservative evangelical leader Chuck Colson has become so concerned about Rand’s booming popularity in the GOP that he recently recorded a video warning that Rand “peddles a starkly anti-Christian philosophy.”

Well thank God (PI) somebody is.

The first thing she ever said to William F. Buckley was “you’re much too smart to be a Christian.” But yeah, somehow she’s the spiritual guru of the new GOP… and Mike Huckabee’s a godless socialist cause he occasionally suggests Wall Street might not act with infallible Christian judgment all the time.

Go figure.

 
 

The first thing she ever said to William F. Buckley was “you’re much too smart to be a Christian.” But yeah, somehow she’s the spiritual guru of the new GOP… and Mike Huckabee’s a godless socialist cause he occasionally suggests Wall Street might not act with infallible Christian judgment all the time.

for me, this just reinforces their tendency towards cognitive dissonance…

 
 

The first thing she ever said to William F. Buckley was “you’re much too smart to be a Christian.” But yeah, somehow she’s the spiritual guru of the new GOP… and Mike Huckabee’s a godless socialist cause he occasionally suggests Wall Street might not act with infallible Christian judgment all the time.

upon further reflection, i actually find that the GOPs are treading dangerously close to admitting to who their true god is…

 
 

Nobody, including “communist” Russia, escapes the clutches of oligarchal tendencies.

True, but different.

In communist Russia, the upper classes were pretty much exterminated or exiled and a new class of oligarchs, those connected to the Communist Party, took over from them. Nazi Germany never had the purge of all the old upper classes that Russia had: they were largely brought to power by upper classes afraid of socialism in the first place. The oligarchs from before 1933 kept their heads, mostly, and the new regime had plenty of room for them.

 
 

for me, this just reinforces their tendency towards cognitive dissonance…

upon further reflection, i actually find that the GOPs are treading dangerously close to admitting to who their true god is…

Yes to both.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

i actually find that the GOPs are treading dangerously close to admitting to who their true god is…

…Snidely Whiplash?

 
 

The one true god is attention.
~

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Jennifer,
Well, there are 43 other clips from that film…..not sure what else is available.
In any case, I can edit the one in Windows movie if I need to. Or maybe just retire in glory before I turn into a Mamet.

bbkf, BBBB, and WC.
Thank you.

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

upon further reflection, i actually find that the GOPs are treading dangerously close to admitting to who their true god is…

It’s time for the GOP to drop this childish infatuation with Randian ideas and move on the much truer ideals of these philosophers.

 
 

sham – low sodium hunchback said

Cannot…breathe…tears of mirth…need oxygen…Danke!

 
 

It’s time for the GOP to drop this childish infatuation with Randian ideas and move on the much truer ideals of these philosophers.

they would be much more ‘hep’ if they did…and huckabee could play along!

 
Ted the Slacker
 

the GOPs are treading dangerously close to admitting to who their true god is…

Hasn’t it always been Supply-side Jesus? Whose word was made flesh in an atheist Jewish woman, presumably because Actual God is a liberal with a crazy sense of humor.

 
 

upon further reflection, i actually find that the GOPs are treading dangerously close to admitting to who their true god is…

I don’t think they’ve ever tried to hide that. They just did a fantastic job of bending Christianity to fit their greedy concerns. Somehow they managed to portray Jesus as a capitalist, despite that fact that what he talked about most was the fact that being rich puts you in danger of damnation. I think that since a larger group of Christians who can actually read and write and sometimes do just that are rising to reclaim that message from GOP hucksters, they found a dumb whore to idolize instead. It wall fit nicely with the looming specter of having a negro in White House, which surely means those people are going to take over everything…

 
 

Schwarzenegger — not a jew.

What did I do? The Scott Johnson thing or its opposite?… I guess SJ’s (or Robert Klein’s) bit depends on knowing who the jews are before you read it. I don’t mean knowing which names are jewy, so consequently I never know who the jews are unless somebody tells me.

“Hey, his name is Dominique.”–SJ. What the fuck?

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

and huckabee could play along!

Well, Huck seems to have embraced the philosophies of Ted. So it looks like he’s more into the whole sex with adolescent girls theme than the unrestricted greed creed.

 
 

What did I do? The Scott Johnson thing or its opposite?… I guess SJ’s (or Robert Klein’s) bit depends on knowing who the jews are before you read it. I don’t mean knowing which names are jewy, so consequently I never know who the jews are unless somebody tells me.

You did exactly what he wanted you to do. Use a comedy bit to reach an intellectual conclusion. Robert Klein, who is a jew, inadvertently admits that ALL jews are self conscious because Bernie Madoff! Therefore Dom is most certainly not a Jew cuz he’s an embarassement to their race religion.

 
 

huckabee could play along!

He’d rather play along with the Nuge and sing about stroking pussies and making them purr.

Funny how nobody’s calling that “mysoginist,” ain’t it?

 
 

Funny how nobody’s calling that “mysoginist,” ain’t it?

first off, this is assuming that the ‘lamestream’ actually watched this segment and furthermore, bringing up misogyny makes you the misogynist!!!

 
 

playing the ‘uterus card’ as it were…

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

Playing the uterus card.

(Hey, someone had to say it.)

 
 

playing the ‘uterus card’

*snort!*

 
 

That helps, Tsam. (I am just gonna go ahead and capitalize that.)

Fun fact — I have a grandmother named Juanita. We are not hispanic or Spanish to any degree. There is no explanation.

Once she told us about a nice man she met at church: “He pronounces his name ‘Ho-zay,’ but he spells it J-O-S-E.” Note that she can spell and pronounce her own name.

 
 

Fun fact — I have a grandmother named Juanita. We are not hispanic or Spanish to any degree. There is no explanation.

Once she told us about a nice man she met at church: “He pronounces his name ‘Ho-zay,’ but he spells it J-O-S-E.” Note that she can spell and pronounce her own name.

this made me laff…

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

Scott Johnson won’t succed on Broadway.

 
 

I am glad you laughed, BBKF. She’s a very resourceful woman of true moral character, but her background and perspective are worlds away from most Americans’.

 
 

Fun fact — I have a grandmother named Juanita. We are not hispanic or Spanish to any degree. There is no explanation.

Mysteries abound!

I shall add this phenomenon to my ever-growing list of reasons to hate all Hispanics. They’re EVEN INVADING OUR CHILD NAMING!

 
Pupienus Tintinus
 

Here’s a big surprise: Dominique Strauss-Kahn is a JEW.

Thank gawd! We dont need some financially incompetent goy running the fucking IMF!

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

CRA’s gramma was a Freddie King fan I bet.

 
Pupienus Tintinus
 

No TITS at Barnes & Noble!

 
Tintin is not a Jew (or is he?)
 

Hunchback and Hitler made me laugh out loud.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Therefore Dom is most certainly not a Jew cuz he’s an embarassement to their race religion.

Dom is a shonda for the goyim.

 
 

Low-Sodium Hunchback — nice job, very funny.

Freddie King, like all secular music, is the devil’s work, but I for one appreciate that you found and excuse to link him.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Hunchback and Hitler made me laugh out loud.

Springtime for Hunchback and Sadly No,
Winter for Althouse and Meade…

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Oh shit. I just remembered that there’s comments there at YT.
Thanks.
Not sure why there’s an ad also. Will they send me a check$$$

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

Freddie King, like all secular music, is the devil’s work,

So how come, in the music department, the devil’s work is always better than God’s work?

 
 

Re comments at YT, hunchie:

Yah, vmweenie is me Tintin.

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Tintin actually made the video.

 
 

He’d rather play along with the Nuge and sing about stroking pussies and making them purr.

There is nothing misogynist about stroking pussies. In fact most pussies enjoy it immensely.

It’s just wrong when Nugent talks about it because we all know he’s really talking about his prize winning 4H goat, which he has miraculously managed to refrain from shooting.

 
 

What I would like to know is how he can claim to be a “socialist” and run a brutally fascist organization like the IMF.

It’s well known that this guy is “center-left” which puts him on the right-wing of the Socialist Party in France.

Plus, there are lots of self-proclaimed “socialist” parties and republics throughout the world that have embraced neo-liberalism and/or state capitalism. Some of them are opportunistic ex-revolutionaries who want a piece of the action that comes with crooked privatization and capital flight, others are pragmatic nationalists who see a compromise with capital as a means of survival.

 
 

Christian rock is an anomaly, in that plenty of religious music is good or great. Not that Christians have a monopoly on earnest suckery. I give you

“Sedona Sunrise,” by Gabriel of Urantia*
& The Bright & Morning Star Band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjS9icX-3Ik

*Leader of the Aquarian Concepts Community cult based in Sedona, AZ
http://www.rickross.com/reference/acc/acc3.html

 
 

Back to the whole “Jew” thing, has anybody mentioned this to Pammycakes? One could slip in a fairly innocent concern trolling comment. One could.

Might be fun to watch the fur fly.

 
 

I try to avoid YouTube views by random strangers by not tagging anything, but damned if a talking asshole video didn’t get caught within an hour.

 
 

So how come, in the music department, the devil’s work is always better than God’s work?

Excluding classical. It is well-known that muzak composers have all sold what little soul they had to SATAN.

 
 

Back to the whole “Jew” thing, has anybody mentioned this to Pammycakes?

I endorse this trolling idea.

 
 

Plus, there are lots of self-proclaimed “socialist” parties and republics throughout the world that have embraced neo-liberalism and/or state capitalism. Some of them are opportunistic ex-revolutionaries who want a piece of the action that comes with crooked privatization and capital flight, others are pragmatic nationalists who see a compromise with capital as a means of survival.

This explanation induces vomitting because there is also an element of inevitability to this shit. Once you start down that road, there really is no turning back. Something like trying to mash a fart back into your butt.

 
 

Partial fail — Gabriel of Sedona incorporates Christian themes into his syncretic New Age message. Whatever his heresies, his music clearly comes from the same place as Christian rock, albeit folksier.

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

There was probably a window there where someone could have linked the talking asshole to Psych Today.

Of the two, talking asshole vid probably more worthwhile.

 
 

Ruh Roh! Amy Alkon’s BFF really steps in it.

Whoa. Editing is, as we say of reading, fundamental.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

CRA:

Fun fact — I have a grandmother named Juanita. We are not hispanic or Spanish to any degree. There is no explanation.

Once she told us about a nice man she met at church: “He pronounces his name ‘Ho-zay,’ but he spells it J-O-S-E.” Note that she can spell and pronounce her own name.

Boy that old joke:

Q: What did the Mexican fire chief name his kids?

A: José and Hose B!

Doesn’t really work in writing, does it?

 
 

“Because they have existed much longer in human evolutionary history, Africans have more mutations in their genomes.”–Zantoshi Kanazawa in Psychology Today.

Well, no. This should be unpublished, even if it were not part of a “Africans were humans first, so their women have mutated into the ugliest ones” argument. What demographic is Psych. Today courting, I wonder.

 
 

Reverend — just to be clear, grandma was not joking. If she does humor, ever, it must be some sort of lifelong deadpan performance art.

 
 

it must be some sort of lifelong deadpan performance art.

That’s epic dedication. I can’t keep that going for more than a minute or two.

(that’s what SHE said!!!)

Thank you, thank you. I’m here all week. Don’t forget to tip your bartenders and waitresses….

 
 

I think I see the problem….

“TruculentandUnreliable said,

May 17, 2011 at 16:00

Shorter Scott Johnson.”

Can it really be any shorter and still be an outie?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Fun fact — I have a grandmother named Juanita. We are not hispanic or Spanish to any degree. There is no explanation.

There could be… what is your grandmother’s ethnic/cultural background?

Asking because names like Mercedes and Dolores pop up in Ireland post stranding of the Spanish Armada.

Heh… stranding the armada…

 
 

As a Scott Johnson Shorter enthusiast myself, I need to note FTR that Johnson is himself Jewish. That’s not what tends to get my goat, though. It’s stuff like his introductory sentence to the post which is the subject of this OP:

Comedian Robert Klein captures something of the pride and insecurity of the Jewish people with a bit that seems to erupt from his subconscious.

Shorter Scott Johnson: “I am an insufferable twit.”

 
 

BBBB — there may well be an explanation, but it’s lost in the mists of time, and Juanita herself doesn’t know it (we’ve asked). Frankly I hadn’t given her name much thought until she made the “Jose” comment.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

BBBB — there may well be an explanation, but it’s lost in the mists of time, and Juanita herself doesn’t know it (we’ve asked).

Spanish, after all, is the language for much of the population of the Western Hemisphere (the swingingest hemisphere there is), and the Low Countries were ruled by Hapsburg Spain. I love this sort of thing.

For the record, the funkiest “ethnic” name in the family is (I kid you not) Hedwig, a name endured by a great aunt of mine.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

The name “Juanita” has been naturalized in America for so long that it’s now hopelessly old-fashioned. (That’s why you young whippersnappers find it so unusual. Get offa ma lawn!)

Remember Barney Fife flirting with “Juanita down at the diner?” Serenading her with the old song: “Juanita, Juaa-aa-nii-ta…?” In fact, it’s so thoroughly naturalized that you’ll see the “phonetic” spelling “Waunita” among a certain…demographic.

 
 

if we keep shortering scott johnson, we are going to get down to microphallic levels.

 
 

Okay, what I don’t get is the thing draped around his neck, like a white strap. It is clearly on top of his tie. What IS that?

(Just beginning to read the thread now.)

 
 

Looks like a lanyard.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Okay, what I don’t get is the thing draped around his neck, like a white strap. It is clearly on top of his tie. What IS that?

It’s probably a lanyard holding up a convention pass.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Curse you mark f and your clever, quick fingers!!!

 
 

Yeah but you stepped all over my ahem so it’s even.

 
 

What IS that?

Conference ID badge ribbon.

 
 

Damn youse all. Also, there are too many vegetables on that lanyard!

 
 

It’s well known that this guy is “center-left” which puts him on the right-wing of the Socialist Party in France.

Indeed. The guy was a moderate socialist who was considered the French people overall’s favorite candidate to challenge Sarkozy in 2012… but not necessarily the Socialists’ favorite candidate (many would’ve preferred someone more to the left).

Plus, there are lots of self-proclaimed “socialist” parties and republics throughout the world that have embraced neo-liberalism and/or state capitalism. Some of them are opportunistic ex-revolutionaries who want a piece of the action that comes with crooked privatization and capital flight, others are pragmatic nationalists who see a compromise with capital as a means of survival.

Indeed again. Despite its name, the Socialist Party’s never been an especially revolutionary or far left party. Nor was it really a party of the workers: the Communist Party had it beat on both counts.

 
 

That is a ribbon attached to his Prince Albert.

 
 

I’m going to sing Ben Folds tunes at you at the top of my lungs.

So there.
.

 
 

I might even work in some Slim Whitman.
.

 
Ann Althouse, who is Spearhafoc
 

Cursing Mark f’s clever, quick fingers.

Working in some Slim Whitman, also too.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

When Annservant Hecubus kicks in your front doors, how youse gonna come?

With your head up your ass, or with lawyers, cash, and guns?

 
 

I am glad you laughed, BBKF. She’s a very resourceful woman of true moral character, but her background and perspective are worlds away from most Americans’.

it made me laff because it reminds me of my mother…

 
 

I might even work in some Slim Whitman.

Slim Whitman singing “Tooty Ta.”

 
 

There is nothing misogynist about stroking pussies. In fact most pussies enjoy it immensely.

like this?

 
 

Speaking of stroking strange pussies, if I hear one more “news” item about Ahnolt schtupping the help I’m gonna fucking (see how that’s done, K-Lo?) scream.

 
 

Massaging the cat

 
 

“start from the base of the rump, rubbing your way out.”

Good advice in many cases.

 
 

“start from the base of the rump, rubbing your way out.”

my favorite line is “you don’t need a swimming pool for this breast stroke!”

 
 

“start from the base of the rump, rubbing your way out.”

Good advice in many cases

and yes…

 
 

THE Fenwick?

So was that story about you getting burgled true?

 
 

BlackBloc, excellent distinctions in your 16:49 !

Chris: As always, I enjoy reading your observations about historical and international topics. I’m not sure, however, that I quite agree with this:

[The Nazis] were largely brought to power by upper classes afraid of socialism in the first place.

In my view, Hitler was not ‘brought to power’. He led a social revolution(1) which was ‘largely responsible for his initial rise to power.

Hitler consolidated his power politcally through several alliances-of-convenience with powerful ‘upper-class’ groups, most importantly the industrialists and (secretly) the Wehrmacht. The ‘upper class’ groups intended to manipulate Hitler and the Nazis as political tools.(2) The completely underestimated his ambition and ruthlessness.

The primary fear of the ‘upper classes’–including the industrialists and the Wehrmacht was communism. They detested the socialist politicians and programs in the Weimar republic…but feared and hated communism much more; they remembered the domestive chaos that ended WWI and brought down the Emperor. During the global Depression–and burdened with Reparations–Germany was ripe for communist appeal. The industrialists and the Wehrmacht feared that above all else.

Hitler firmly established his ‘anti-communist’ credentials early. During his rise to power he demonized Jew and communists…and blurred them together. By the time he made the Non-Agression Pact with Stalin, he was so firmly in control that the staggering hypocrisy didn’t matter a whit. The Reich exterminated communists as viciously as they did the Jews…but there were far fewer of them.

Finally, consider the name of Hitler’s political instrument: The National Socialist Workers Party. He put on the ‘nationalist’ hat when dealing with his allies-of-convenience.

Longish comment! But I so enjoy discussions with Chris, that I decided to take a long break from thread-reading. Now I’ll get back to it.

—————————————
(1) For detailed desription and analysis, see Hitler’s Social Revolution by David Schoenbaum. [Dr. S. was my mentor when I studied modern European history at the University of Iowa.]

(2) In a similar manner, Bonaparte was intended by the coup plotters as their pliable ‘sword’ after Consulate had seized power. They utterly underestimated Bonaparte’s ambition and politcal skill.

 
 

Plus, Ben Stein’s on it!

“If he is such a womanizer and violent guy with women, why didn’t he ever get charged until now?…”

“Can anyone tell me any economists who have been convicted of violent sex crimes?…”

“…I love and admire hotel maids. They have incredibly hard jobs and they do them uncomplainingly. I am sure she is a fine woman. On the other hand, I have had hotel maids that were complete lunatics, stealing airline tickets from me, stealing money from me, throwing away important papers, stealing medications from me….”

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/05/17/presumed-innocent-anyone

 
 

Nice one, low sodium!

 
 

I blame all of the typos on Ann Althouse.

 
 

Also the German industrialists also got low-cost labor from millions of slaves. Good for profits.

 
 

Oy gevalt.

 
 

“i actually find that the GOPs are treading dangerously close to admitting to who their true god is…”

“…Snidely Whiplash?”

Now just ‘Fenwick’, thanks. But it is nice to achieve the godhead!

(achieving the godhead)

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

On the other hand, I have had hotel maids that were complete lunatics, stealing airline tickets from me, stealing money from me, throwing away important papers, stealing medications from me….”

That would explain his embrace of Creationism.

 
 

“Can anyone tell me any economists who have been convicted of violent sex crimes?…”

No, but I can cite several who have committed violent acts against logic, Mr. Dover.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

“…Snidely Whiplash?”

Now just ‘Fenwick’, thanks. But it is nice to achieve the godhead!

(achieving the godhead)

unless, you are the actual villain from that string of Hanna Barbera cartoons from the early 70s, I was not referring to you. I can see how you might be confused though.

 
 

When Annservant Hecubus kicks in your front doors, how youse gonna come?

“Whatcha gonna do/Whatcha gonna do
When the commies & the homos/Come looking for you?”

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

“Can anyone tell me any economists who have been convicted of violent sex crimes?…”

I can think of a few who aided and abetted the rape of a few countries economies and environments. Does that count?

 
 

Oh, sacrilege & ignorance!

villain from that string of Hanna Barbera cartoons from the early 70s

 
 

“Can anyone tell me any economists who have been convicted of violent sex crimes?…”

Gee, also a political figure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Katsav

 
 

“Can anyone tell me any economists who have been convicted of violent sex crimes?…”

Much like tales of Ben Stein’s interactions with hotel staff, I’m having a hard time figuring out why this would be in any way relevant.

 
 

“The name ‘Juanita’ has been naturalized in America for so long that it’s now hopelessly old-fashioned. (That’s why you young whippersnappers find it so unusual.”

In a way I’m glad I brought it up, because I wouldn’t have thought of that, thanks. My error was in assuming one could have an old-lady name like “Mildred,” or an unaccountably ethic name like an anglo “Fulgencio,” but not both in one.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Oh, sacrilege & ignorance!

villain from that string of Hanna Barbera cartoons from the early 70s

Yeah, you’re thinking of Dick Dastardly, and I believe he made his debut in the 60s.

 
 

Working [my] way around the cat

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

In Soviet Russia cat works way around you.

 
 

Thanks to Wolfie for saving me from being arsed to link to B.S. at AmSpec.

Allows me to refer to an earlier version of the same Mr. Stein defining the innocence of another wealthy & powerful weasel.

Tl; won’t read? Video.

 
 

Work your way around the cat using a vigorous kneading motion.

How are you gentlemen !!

 
 

B^4: Liked the historical observations about Spanish names in Ireland and the Low Countries. That never occured to me before. I learn all sorts of nifty stuff here.

Ron Howard: Yup, the burglary was real.

(But I am not. I am HTML Mencken.)

unless, you are the actual villain from that string of Hanna Barbera cartoons from the early 70s, I was not referring to you. I can see how you might be confused though.

I’m mostly always confused! Actually, when I first stepped out from lurkerhood in regular commentary, I went through a period of frantic, confusing, and mainly pointless nym-changing. The second nym I used was Snidely Whiplash.

Mainly I was making a joke at my own expense for the kind and patient Sadlies who endured my groping for a permanent nym.

(Groping for a permanent nym.)

Hurrah! I’m caught up on the thread

 
 

Helmut: Also Snidely was a Rocky & Bullwinkle villian. (I don’t think H-B produced the show.)

*evil mustache twirl after catching a piffle-tiny error*

 
 

Smut Clyde’s link looks like a manual on cat massage, but they’d have you believe it’s no difference than massaging people. You put the cat on its stomach on a betoweled massage table, naked.

 
 

no differeNT

 
 

The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge: The name “Juanita” has been naturalized in America for so long that it’s now hopelessly old-fashioned

Correcto. My late mother-in-law, born in 1919, was Enid Juanita, and that song was popular from about 1895 on. Name fashions typically last anywhere from about 5 to 20 years, which is why Jennifer and Jason have been replaced at the top of the lists by Isabella and Jacob.

Enid’s parents were English, by the way, and her sisters were Muriel and Ivy — two more names that are totally out of fashion now, but if you read British novels of the early 20th century you’ll see those names (usually given to housemaid-type characters) all over the place.

 
 

Back to the white band around Scott Johnson’s neck.

I was trying to seed a strand, one of my favorite things to do. I often feel I’m not sharp enough or fast enough to keep up with the rapid-fire wit here. So I try to contribute by tossing out things for people to riff on. And by showing appreciation for other commenters’ efforts that I enjoy.

My speculations about the band: (1) suspenders. (2) auto-erotic asphixiation. (3) the ribbon of some reichwing medal. [I like medals, decorations, and insignia.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Work your way around the cat using a vigorous kneading motion.

Nothing beats fresh baked cat bread.

 
 

Or perhaps a noose.

 
 

The thing about cat massage is that the lotion winds up everywhere the cat goes.

 
 

Nothing beats fresh baked cat bread.

And the crusts are dee-lish!

 
 

Gack. My appetite has been stirred. Must try breakfast.

 
 

The thing about cat massage is that the lotion winds up everywhere the cat goes.

No problem: Just scoop out the lotion clumps from the kitty-litter.

 
 

The thing about cat massage is that the lotion winds up everywhere the cat goes.

…if you’re lucky.

 
 

Breakfast being the name of the cat.

 
 

MB: Any time is a good time for breakfast! What’s on the menu? Waffles? Corn Chex? Bagel?

 
 

RE: Ben Stein –

It’s not like NYPD is known for its record of supporting the word of poor black immigrant women over that of rich white guys.

So I am assuming they had enough evidence to prosecute the guy.

 
 

Oooooo. Almost forgot: Thanks, tsam, for the link to the f-i-n-e intergalactic parody. (21:35)

Low sodium: I still haven’t fixed my ‘watching video’ problem. The high praise for your debut production may make me get off my butt and figure out how to fix it. I want to see that video!

 
 

Gah, Czech has alot of diatritics and I’m not enjoying transcribing them.

 
 

Fenwick, have you downloaded the latest version of Adobe Flash? (Just kidding, that doesn’t help either!)

You guessed bagel & you were right. Sesame seed, w/ extra sharp NY white cheddar, spicy brown mustard & a trio of Kroger’s pork snausages.

Then: Coffee!

 
 

I like this director’s name, I wonder if it’ll come across right:

Zar?i?ka?vac?ky = Charmers / dir. Gas?per S?nuderl (18:00)

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Jeffraham Prestonian said,

May 17, 2011 at 23:36 (kill)

My kittehs are killers.

Ha! One of mine is named “Killer”.

Should have named him “Renfield”, but who knew?

 
 

Since the chipmunk episode related at my blog, Eartha Kitty has offed two lagomorphs. I found the back half of one of them beside the back patio – it looked to be adolescent in size. The second one showed up a day and a half later – this one was a baby. She left it, and its severed head, on the patio. A few hours later when I went out to remove the corpses from my outdoor living area, they were gone. I’m figuring a hawk might have got them…the wild critters that would have carried them off aren’t stirring in broad daylight, we don’t have loose dogs running around the neighborhood, and a cat – at least a domestic one – wouldn’t care about hauling off another cat’s kill.

I really wish she’d stop killing the bunnies, though. I thought she had learned her lesson after one of them bit her lower lip (and got away – to which I commented: “Sometimes, Eartha, the bunnies bite back.”) but she’s back at it again.

 
 

Well, my guys are indoor kittehs, so the dove-kill was a lucky shot from the balcony. Usually all they get is a pawful of feathers, at most.
.

 
Pupienus Tintinus (does that ring a bell?)
 

Does the massage include release?

 
 

If you love something, give it release.

 
 

If you love something, give it release.

If it comes on you, it was meant to be?

 
 

OK, Substance, I will try again– the content is not important, I just wanna try unicode in here:

Zaříkávačky = Charmers / dir. Gašper Šnuderl (18:00)

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Does the massage include release?

It had better!

 
 

“If you love something, give it release.”
“If it comes on you, it was meant to be?”

These are funnier because in my mind, Sting is singing ’em to the tune of that similarly-named hit of his.

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

How are you gentlemen !!

tigris was here needing the kneading and y’all are talking to Fenwick!?!?!?!?

whatevs.

 
 

all your cat massage are belong to meeeeeeeeeee!
~

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

tigris was here needing the kneading and y’all are talking to Fenwick!?!?!?!?

With the anonymity of the internet, I don’t know which of the two is better looking.

 
 

Let the record show that once I correctly pronounced the ‘ř’ sound in Czech, two times running.
Beer was involved.

 
 

tigris was here needing the kneading and y’all are talking to Fenwick!?!?!?!?

I was concentrating on the cat.

 
 

Let the record show that once I correctly pronounced the ‘?’ sound in Czech, two times running.
Beer was involved.

And phlegm?

 
 

all your cat massage are belong to meeeeeeeeeee!

Ooowwwww

 
 


unless, you are the actual villain from that string of Hanna Barbera cartoons from the early 70s

Psst…Udleyday Orightday…

 
 

How would you prefer we steal your name?

Phone booth in a bar in a rough section of town

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Psst…Udleyday Orightday…

IS TINTIN!!!!

 
 

“3.) The prosecutors say that Mr. Strauss-Kahn “forced” the complainant to have oral and other sex with him. How? Did he have a gun? Did he have a knife? He’s a short fat old man. They were in a hotel with people passing by the room constantly, if it’s anything like the many hotels I am in. How did he intimidate her in that situation? And if he was so intimidating, why did she immediately feel un-intimidated enough to alert the authorities as to her story?”–Ben Stein

It seems as though Ben Stein is forever emerging into consciousness for the first time, he’s that thoughtless; but if so, how does he know so much about being a douche? Perhaps he learned douchery in school, and little else, and now retains this rude knowledge even in the cloud of insensibility that he inhabits. Again: it is as if he’s never encountered such situations or the discussions surrounding them, ever, and now has decided to weigh in.

Backing away from my rant — I have never been in a $3,000-a-night hotel room, but I bet they’re at least 50% more soundproof than ones I’ve enjoyed. A $50 room is generally more permeable than a $200 one, I know that much.

 
 

The prosecutors say that Mr. Strauss-Kahn “forced” the complainant to have oral and other sex with him. How?

I don’t want to leap to conclusions in this particular case, however it strikes me that even a short-fingered vulgarian like Stein, if his bristle is up (and I mean that in every possible sense of the word) he’ll find a shot of adrenaline flowing thru his veins and so how hard would it be to pin someone on the bed who’s terrified of what’s happening to her?

 
 

“if it’s anything like the many hotels I am in”

Stein exhibits a completely different Jewish stereotype than does DSK.

 
 

Stein exhibits a completely different Jewish stereotype than does DSK.

Are you basing that on his game show?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Are you basing that on his game show?

Or on his love for Nixon?

 
 

The prosecutors say that Mr. Strauss-Kahn “forced” the complainant to have oral and other sex with him. How?

I would hate to become the kind of person that hopes Stein finds out.

 
 

I won’t bother to read it. Does he mention that she was provocatively dressed in that maids uniform? Cmon Ben, you know you want to say she was asking for it.

 
 

Does he mention that she was provocatively dressed in that maids uniform?

You may not know this, Poops, but every maid in every hotel in NYC dresses in a French maid’s outfit directly taken from every British “carry on” films

 
 

every maid in every hotel in NYC dresses in a French maid’s outfit

At 3 grand a night that’s the LEAST I’d expect………..

 
 

How? Did he have a gun? Did he have a knife?

In short, Ben Stein is taking care not to learn the details of the charges against DSK so that it is easier for him to ridicule an accusation of rape. Why does he feel that rape denial is some sort of personal obligation? Is there a gaes on him?

“If he is such a womanizer and violent guy with women, why didn’t he ever get charged until now?…”
As for that woman who publically accused DSK of attempted rape eight years ago, whose allegations were successfully hushed up at the time, the fact that she is repeating them now when there is corroborating evidence only proves that she is an opportunist who probably has a book to sell.

 
Hysterical Woman
 

If you report a crime, it must mean you aren’t scared of the accused, and crime is scary, q.e.d. no crime took place.

Of course, if you don’t report the crime right away, that means it didn’t happen.

 
 

Also, fewd p0rn.

 
 

In short, Ben Stein is taking care not to learn the details of the charges against DSK so that it is easier for him to ridicule an accusation of rape. Why does he feel that rape denial is some sort of personal obligation?

I seem to remember the old Spy magazine running, years ago, an item to the effect that Stein was notorious for horndogging underage girls. They called him “the Lothario of the PSAT set,” or something like that. Who knows if he still does that (ewwww), but maybe he looks at a rapist and thinks, “There but for the grace of God…”

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Shroom sandwich!!!

There was a tiny storefront type Vietnamese restaurant here in a couple years ago. BEST SPRINGROLLS AND FISH SAUCE EVAH!!!!!! Could drink the sauce like shots . Closed shortly of course. Have never had anything comparable to it in restaurant or from any import store since.

 
 

Jeepers. Thanks Bitter Scribe or I would never have known you could read old Spy magazines on Google. Also, fewd p0rn.

 
One false Alkon
 

“In short, Ben Stein is taking care not to learn the details of the charges against DSK so that it is easier for him to ridicule an accusation of rape. Why does he feel that rape denial is some sort of personal obligation?”

An excellent summation. I dunno if the answers to his questions are out there yet, or if they’ll ever be made public, but if Stein doesn’t know, why not keep his powder dry? –Well, because (as you say) he feels obligated somehow, as does Henri-Levy.

 
 

oops, that Alkon is me.

 
 

And thank you, Sub. I had that link with my old computer but I forgot to save my bookmarks before I turned it in.

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

Geez, Bitter One, there was food pr0n and I’m not hungry now, maybe ever.

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

Thanks a lot gang! My cat was reading this thread over my shoulder today and now hes going around the house singing this tune.

 
Spearhafoc, who considered posting a picture of Margaret Nolan when someone mentioned the Carry On films, but decided against it when he realised that that would be even more inappropriate than usual when the current subject of the thread was a rape
 

TINTIN!

Steven Spielberg, Peter Jackson, Steven Moffat.

On the other hand…

Gah! Uncanny Valley!

 
sham - low sodium hunchback
 

The Band .

 
Spearhafoc, who is writing a less cumbersome nym
 

Ew! Never mention “Gingrich” and “Santorum” in the same sentence ever again!

 
 

We all hate Rick Santorum, but few would slam Santorum publicly like Gingrich has.

(I apologize for that image, but there you have it.)

 
 

Stop the pigeon, stop the pigeon, stop the pigeon, stop the pigeon..

 
 

Sad when two good Papists fight like that.

 
 

I thought Santorum was the result of slamming Gingrich.

 
 

Sad when two good Papists fight like that.

Sad? I’m kinda hoping we can get the rest of ’em to join in, perhaps we could get an orgy of mutual immolation going. Perhaps the Baptists and the Methodists could be persuaded to join in.

That would make me…rapturous!

 
 

Gingrich slams Gingrich:
“Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood”.

A smart or self-respecting journalist would learn from this debacle that there is little point interviewing or quoting Gingrich, because in a day or two he’s likely to unstate his statements as being no longer operative.

 
 

an item to the effect that Stein was notorious for horndogging underage girls.

See also the Spy List, April 1988 — Ben Stein in the celebrated company of Charles Dodgson and Humbert Humbert.

It gets better!

the next time Spy snickered over Stein’s proclivities, he threatened to sue, and the Spy legal team had to point out that they had only drawn from Stein’s own accounts in his 1988 memoir Hollywood Days, Hollywood Nights.

 
 

“tigris was here needing the kneading and y’all are talking to Fenwick!?!?!?!?”

“With the anonymity of the internet, I don’t know which of the two is better looking.”

tigris, of course.

I look ridiculous. (I have told everyone about the 17-inch beard hair, haven’t I?)

 
 

That would make me…rapturous!

Larfed at this, Whale.

 
 

I have told everyone about the 17-inch beard hair, haven’t I?

Your wife is rather short, yes

 
 

I would never have known you could read old Spy magazines on Google

One of the few positives of Arnold Alkon’s “outting” was finding this out.

 
 

I look ridiculous. (I have told everyone about the 17-inch beard hair, haven’t I?)

VPR, Fenwick?

As for your question(s) yesterday, no, I havn’t read that book, but its on my list, saw it discounted at Borders here yesterday. Although I imagine your probably pretty well read on the matter, Said is indispensable on mid east matters, if you can get over the flowery prose.

And yes, I’ve worked a few places round the world, mainly Saudi & Libya in the ‘mid east’ (yes I know the latter aint mid east, but it counts for these purposes), and Vietnam & Thailand in SE Asia. Also, during my consultancy time, been all over both regions, to the extent that China, North Korea & Iraq haven’t ‘benefited’ from my presence.

 
 

are the only places that haven’t benefited….

 
 

Seems that the Cathlick church has finally figured out who is responsible for all of its pedopriests : Hippies!

 
 

I hope it won’t come as a surprise to anyone that a big part of male homosexual behavior is interest in young boys. (Take a look at anyone renting Endless Summer next time you are at the video store.)

How was anyone ever fooled into thinking this fucking retard is intelligent?

Ben Stein, please kill yourself.

 
 

I hope it won’t come as a surprise to anyone that a big part of male homosexual behavior is interest in young boys. (Take a look at anyone renting Endless Summer next time you are at the video store.)

There are people who think Ben Stein is intelligent. Intelligent people are not among them.

 
 

Gingrich slams Gingrich:

I started typing out a terrifically nasty response to this, then stopped myself. YOU’RE ALL WELCOME.

 
El Manquécito
 

Somehow Ben Stain didn’t address the real issue, viz: that the housekeeper in question is a fully head-scarved Mooslim extremist mole planted at the Sofitel years ago to entrap some financially influential (cough, jewish) VIP into forcing her to perform sexual acts resulting in the political destruction of said VIP. I’m sure this is central to his point.

This really is one of my favorite scandals in years, despite the compassion and sympathy I have for this woman, who doubtless does not deserve this horrible shit-storm. It shows the IMF, the international financial elite, enarqs, and common taters like Stain in a particularly harsh and revealing light.

 
 

“Gingrich” could be a nasty disease or skin condition. “Ging-” evokes “gingivitis”, while “-rich” is itchy.

 
 

On second thought, a “gingrich” sounds like a man who fulfills a sexual role (as yet undetermined) of an unseemly, debased variety. A sort of sexual monster.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

I hope the term “Gingrich” enters the American vernacular as a person who leaves/and or cheats on their wife when she is dying of cancer, e.g. I liked what John Edwards was saying in 2008 and I was really disappointed to learn he was a Gingrich.

 
 

In my view, Hitler was not ‘brought to power’. He led a social revolution(1) which was ‘largely responsible for his initial rise to power.

Hitler consolidated his power politcally through several alliances-of-convenience with powerful ‘upper-class’ groups, most importantly the industrialists and (secretly) the Wehrmacht. The ‘upper class’ groups intended to manipulate Hitler and the Nazis as political tools.(2) The completely underestimated his ambition and ruthlessness.

Quite.

Question being, then, whether he could have come to power without the help of the elites. He got a plurality in the polls, but never a majority (it was somewhere between 30 and 35 percent if memory serves) – and Hindenberg and the rest could definitely have tried harder to stop him if they’d wanted to. They didn’t want to, because they found him useful as a counterweight to communism… though I’d still argue the line between “communism” and “the left in general” was blurry both for fascists and for conservatives.

(Much like the AUC in Colombia was originally supposed to protect big businesses and land owners from the FARC and other left-wing terrorists… but quickly branched out into Pinkerton-type activities against legitimate citizens).

Finally, consider the name of Hitler’s political instrument: The National Socialist Workers Party. He put on the ‘nationalist’ hat when dealing with his allies-of-convenience.

The Nazis went through various name changes in their early years (before Hitler got there), and were for a while known simply as the Germany Workers’ Party (because various members objected to using the word “socialist” in the title, “workers” was more generic). Hitler added the words “national” and “socialist” at the same time in order to appeal to disaffected members of both sides of the aisle.

But again, those were the early supporters. They, indeed, were fairly anti-capitalist, especially the SA. But they were also cut out from the corridors of power pretty quickly once Hitler had gotten to power (the night of the long knives being the main event) in favor of his new supporters and allies.

I would not say “nationalist” was just a hat – if anything, “socialist” was much more of one. Hitler and fascist parties in general aren’t that interested in economics one way or another: the Nazis laid out a 25-part economic program once, and then ignored it in favor of whatever was convenient. “Nationalist,” on the other hand, was central to the movement. And the general message in terms of class conflict was “stop fighting each other, and get together to build a united Germany” – in other words, forget your class interests and think about your national interests instead. Nationalism trumped socialism pretty explicitly.

 
 

(Sorry for the delayed response, Fenwick, and a belated welcome back also too).

 
 

“I liked what John Edwards was saying in 2008 and I was really disappointed to learn he was a Gingrich.”

Much better. I will try to spread this coinage.

 
 

Chris said

That’s pretty much the picture Shirer paints as well, if I can trust my memory.

 
 

Smut’s Stein on Foley link: “On the one hand, we have a poor misguided Republican man who had a romantic thing for young boys. He sent them suggestive e-mail. I agree, that’s not great. On the other hand, we have a Democratic party that worships (not likes, WORSHIPS) a man named Bill Clinton who did not send suggestive e-mails as far as we know, but who had a barely legal intern give him oral sex…”

Mark Foley’s prurient interest in multiple teen males over TEN YEARS is ROMANTIC? And since when is 22 “barely legal?” It’s older than either of the two young men we know Foley had sex with. To defend Foley, whose career was built on anti-gay and anti-child-exploitation legislation, by calling Democrats hypocrites is one of the most idiotically dishonest Tu Quoques I’ve ever seen. Jesus, what a sick fuck Ben Stein is.

 
 

tigris said,
May 18, 2011 at 16:29

Pity the poor, misguided Mark Foley. It’s double-funny when you remember that one of their main charges against Mohammed was having a far-underage wife.

 
 

“Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood.”

 
 

“Any ad which quotes what I said on Sunday is a falsehood.”

Heh.

And Clinton gets crap for splitting hairs about the definition of “is…”

 
 

Jesus, what a sick fuck Ben Stein is.

Oh, quit being so pissy about this rank hypocrisy.

 
 

re: Newt

Wow. What a meltdown. This is even moar embarassingly junior league than Rand Paul’s Aqua Buddha would have voted against the Civil Rights Act party.

I’m gonna need a new tag, maybe “How The Gingrich Stole Christmas”.

 
 

Rand Paul now being the junior league senator from Kentucky.

 
 

Well, yeah. But in Kentucky’s defense, bourbon is good whiskey.

 
 

Also in their defense, Rand has turned out to be a total sell-out. So it’s not like KY suffered a big slide considering that he replaced Jim Bunning.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

So it’s not like KY suffered a big slide considering that he replaced Jim Bunning.

KY never suffered a slide,
‘Cos southrons prefer Astroglide.

 
 

Hee hee, “KY’s big slide.”

 
 

FYWP.

Attempt 2 at driving the joke into the ground.

Bourbon and KY – Not just for breakfast anymore.
Bourbon and KY – Burns like hell considering how smooth it goes down.
Bourbon and KY – Your mom’s shopping list.

 
 

Heh heh. ,,,how smooth it goes down. I bet DSK rues testing that out.

 
El Manquécito
 

Rand Paul now being the junior league senator from Kentucky.

Jim Bunning was the Major League Senator from KY.

Attempt 2 also, too. FYWP

 
 

IMF chief mistakes maid for small, financially-crippled country

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Bourbon and KY – Burns like hell considering how smooth it goes down.

You know, a doctor can prescribe something for that infection.

 
El Manquécito
 

In Kentucky’s favor it also produced Jim Hurst a true acoustic guitar monster.

 
 

Hiya, Chris! It’s good to be back.

I think we’re sorta talking past each other on the Hitler’s-Rise-To-Power topic. (I’m sure it must be lack of clarity on my part.) I imagine the gap in our views is probably quite narrow (if there is any at all).

Perhaps I misconstrued what you meant when you wrote that the ‘upper classes brought Hitler to power’. The verb choice derailed me. I was thinking more along the lines of ‘enabled’ or ‘acquiesced’. It’s more the shading of the word choice that (over)reacted to.

Hitler was a complete opportunist, of course. What I meant my ‘putting on his Nationalist hat’ was that he put on his nationalist camoflague (and his anti-communism) when dealing with the ‘upper class’ power centers.

You’re right about the cameleon name changes of the NAZI party. I should have been more specific. I’m not sure, however, that the SA purges had as much to do with ‘party doctrine’ as it did with Rohm’s influencej (and private army) as a potential challenge to his control. I tend to view the Long Knives as a naked political calculus, later cloaked with ‘doctrinal’ cover.’

Of course, the real reason Hitler seized power was he was a Secret Mooz-lim.

 
 

I’m a Kentucky boy. Don’t be hatin’ on my old Kentucky home.
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I blame all my spelling mistakes, keying errors, subject-verb agreement flubs, and other editing errors on Ben Stein.

My haste and laziness has nothing to do with it.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Ben Stein is tired of being a back bencher in the world of right wing apologists. If he ever wants to be taken seriously in the world of status quo defense, he just has to work harder. He doesn’t have Carter’s briefing book to give to Reagan like George Will did , he doesn’t have Irving Kristol to get him a plum bloviating gig, like Bill Kristol, He doesn’t even have Lucianne Goldberg to get a job for her favorite mama’s boy. That phat wingnut welfare cash isn’t going to fall into his lap, he has to go out and hustle for it.

That’s why he can’t afford to overlook the most tawdry scandals of his chosen side without claiming it was a setup, or that it wasn’t that bad, and the other side does it too, and anyway it’s not fair!

He’s going to leave no ass unkissed in his quest to be the next George Will or the next Cal Thomas. That’s his petty little mendacious dream and he’s not going to let human decency in the face of the horrific crime of rape get in the way of it.

 
 

I, too, am lazily hasty.

 
 

That’s why he can’t afford to overlook the most tawdry scandals of his chosen side without claiming it was a setup, or that it wasn’t that bad, and the other side does it too, and anyway it’s not fair!

i just don’t get how any person who claims to have any sort of rational thought can ignore the fact that foley was completely hypocritical with his platform and his private life…yes, bill was doing unspeakable things with monica in the oval office…which embarrassed, pissed off and grossed out many of his followers…but was it an impeachable offense? no, i think not…

also, he was preying on minors. monica was of legal age…what does stein think? there’s some sort of waiting period after becoming of age and when you really are of age? must you ripen for a few years?

the more i read his rantings, the more i am struck by the fact that he is an icky, icky man as well as a possible rapist/pedophile himself…

 
 

lobbey: Before I forget, Fisk was a good friend of Said’s. Fisk has high praise for Said, quotes him or his observations numerous times, and mourns his loss. Haven’t read him. Yet.

 
 

And Clinton gets crap for splitting hairs about the definition of “is…”

IOKIYAR. It’s all you knead* to know.

*purr!

 
El Manquécito
 

From wiki:

“Stein’s voice roles include The Pixies, magical creatures on the animated series The Fairly OddParents; Mr. Purutu on the animated Series The Emperor’s New School; Professor Wisenstein in Bruno the Kid; the birthday party clown on The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius; and Pip on Animaniacs. Stein also voiced a psychiatrist, again named after himself, in the USA TV series Duckman; ”

Clearly this is a man with valuable additions to America’s political culture.

 
 

Clearly this is a man with valuable additions to America’s political culture

you forgot about his shilling for ‘clear eyes’ as well…

 
 

Clearly this is a man with valuable additions to America’s political culture.

and i also despise him for adding ‘bueller…bueller…’ to our pop culture lexicon…

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Stein’s voice roles include The Pixies

Stein’s got nothing on Frank Black!!!

 
El Manquécito
 

Also, as well, discussions/re-examinations/analyses of Hitler’s rise to power: BORING.

 
 

I enjoyed Said’s Orientalism, but I picked up a little book of his on music criticism and was disappointed. His prose can be a real problem. It felt dashed-off, unclear, undisciplined. He knows plenty about music (esp. classical music) and relevant thinkers, but nothing much comes of it.

 
 

I enjoyed Said’s Orientalism, but I picked up a little book of his on music criticism and was disappointed.

agreed…

 
 

Clearly this is a man with valuable additions to America’s political culture.

It annoys me when the right discounts the Hollywood set because apparently actors and such shouldn’t use their high visibility to promote a point of view. Not to concern troll, but we shouldn’t stoop to that level either.

Besides, Stein’s actual words are plenty to hang him by.

 
 

Also, as well, discussions/re-examinations/analyses of Hitler’s rise to power: BORING.

you, my friend, clearly do not watch the history channel…or perhaps too much of it…

i always tell teh hubby i won’t watch any more of it until they can come up with something new about hitler which i doubted could happen since they have linked him in any possible way they can to anything…last week they called my bluff: hitler and ufos…

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

and i also despise him for adding ‘bueller…bueller…’ to our pop culture lexicon…

I’ve never seen that movie- to me, the quintessential 80’s movie teacher will always be the late, great Vincent Schiavelli.

 
 

hitler and ufos…

The hip kids go here for that.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

You would think there would be a line in the big book of Punditatin’ where it would would say “do not defend the indefensible” Or maybe it is in there and Ben can’t quite sound out the words.

 
El Manquécito
 

you, my friend, clearly do not watch the history channel

No TV. Snob.

we shouldn’t stoop to that level either.

The level to which I will stoop; let me show you it.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

You would think there would be a line in the big book of Punditatin’ where it would would say “do not defend the indefensible”

It seems that most of the Punditatin’ for the last decade has been about defending the indefensible.

 
 

Stooping to the level

 
 

The Navy is naming a boat after Cesar Chavez, a US born citizen who actively fought against illegal immigration, and the US right-wing responds by calling the move a victory for “illegals”:

Cesar Chavez and the mental capacity of the American right

Just in case you forgot that the hatred of Hispanics has little to do with their factual immigration or citizenship status.

 
 

Don’t be hatin’ on my old Kentucky home.

Sorry if it came across that way. I’m only hating on Kentucky’s elected representatives. And the people who voted them into office. Unless they are master bourbon makers, who get a pass.

 
 

I hope it won’t come as a surprise to anyone that a big part of male homosexual behavior is interest in young boys

ESFOADIAF Ben. What doesn’t surprise is your continued wrongul conflation of homosexuality and pedophilia. Hey, did you read the John Jay College report out today that slams the Catholic Church for that very thing? I eagerly await your pathetic attempt to discredit yet another study that notes the clear dustinction between sexuality and pathology. Here, have a few steamers.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

It seems that most of the Punditatin’ for the last decade has been about defending the indefensible.

After further review, I find you are correct. Still, Ben’s words on the subject are a particularly odious example.

 
Thread "Tintin" Bear
 

Sorry if it came across that way. I’m only hating on Kentucky’s elected representatives. And the people who voted them into office. Unless they are master bourbon makers, who get a pass.

Perhaps if Kentucky bourbon were not so good the Kentucky voters would be sober enough to vote more responsibly.

 
 

Perhaps I misconstrued what you meant when you wrote that the ‘upper classes brought Hitler to power’. The verb choice derailed me. I was thinking more along the lines of ‘enabled’ or ‘acquiesced’. It’s more the shading of the word choice that (over)reacted to.

No problem at all –

I suppose what I meant was that Hindenberg, the army and the rest of the conservative establishment could have stopped him if they’d wanted to, from what I’ve read. They chose not to, instead enabling/acquiescing to his rise and his party. “Bringing” him to power was probably an overstatement on my part as well. But, as Jonah might say, they were central to it…

I’m not sure, however, that the SA purges had as much to do with ‘party doctrine’ as it did with Rohm’s influencej (and private army) as a potential challenge to his control. I tend to view the Long Knives as a naked political calculus, later cloaked with ‘doctrinal’ cover.’

You’re right and that was probably a bigger consideration than ideology or class. But the lead-up to the war did involve increasing conflicts between the SA and the German elites – the SA grew increasingly unhappy with being held back by Hitler, while the German elites put more and more pressure on Hitler to restrain them. (And the proximate cause for the night of the long knives, wikipedia just informed me, was Hitler getting the news that Hindenberg was close to declaring martial law in response to SA rampaging).

IOW, Hitler had to choose, and he chose the elites. (But probably that was because he thought he could deal with them more easily than with Rohm, who was letting power go to his head, more than out of ideology, so like you said).

 
 

Mistress bourbon makers also get a pass. Drunkenly and clumsily made, but I was never good at logistics.

 
El Manquécito
 

Perhaps if Kentucky bourbon were not so good the Kentucky voters would be sober enough to vote more responsibly.

Much of KY is dry (heh), including, famously, Lynchburg where JD is made. I’d like to attribute the delusional aspects of the KY electorate to booze but the evidence is not there. Other candidates include history, poverty, educational priorities and odd resonances from Scots/Irish descent. Jim Bunning is a great example, a man of great talent at baseball but a total flame-out at political science.

 
 

Sorry if it came across that way.

Oh, it didn’t. It’s just not easy being a liberal in the south. ‘Cept in Nashville, where I am, now. 🙂
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Much of KY is dry (heh), including, famously, Lynchburg where JD is made.

Which, btw, is in Tennessee.
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El Manquécito
 

Shirley there must be a place where folks can discuss Hitler to their heart’s content. Y’all should ‘get a room’.

Kentucky: funny
Hitler: not so much

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

After further review, I find you are correct. Still, Ben’s words on the subject are a particularly odious example.

Ben Stein’s words on just about any subject tend to be odious.

Although, I got out of the boat, and some of the commenters are just as bad as Stein:

Yes he is part of a protected class. Ben Stein is part of that same protected class. The protected class is a supremacist ideology that they both share.

Send this crook and Ben Stein, and their entire extended family, to Madagascar.

You know who else…

 
 

Say what you will about Kentucky and Tennessee, but neither state has its own FARK tag.
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Say what you will about Kentucky and Tennessee,,,

Okay. I did their moms.

 
 

Yes he is part of a protected class. Ben Stein is part of that same protected class. The protected class is a supremacist ideology that they both share.

Send this crook and Ben Stein, and their entire extended family, to Madagascar.

it would be unseemly not to speculate on the nym, origin of birth and political affiliation of these particular posters…it does not sound to me like obamba and his minions are the only hitlers out there…

 
El Manquécito
 

Which, btw, is in Tennessee.

Which explains why their bourbon is so bad.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Send this crook and Ben Stein, and their entire extended family, to Madagascar.
You know who else…

Why do I get the feeling that the commenter knew about that plan and the reference to it was no coincidence?

 
 

Say what you will about Kentucky and Tennessee, but neither state has its own FARK tag.

have you submitted this to their respective state/tourism motto committees? it is second only to alabama’s motto: hey, at least we aren’t mississippi!!!

 
 

Okay. I did their moms.

Sure! We all do!

[/Struthers]
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Marion in Savannah
 

It’s just not easy being a liberal in the south.

Truer words were never spoken. As my office’s tame Democrat I call myself as a crypto-Commie…

 
 

have you submitted this to their respective state/tourism motto committees?

I actually know the guy who wrote the song used by the Tennessee Tourism Commission, years ago (haven’t seen any tourism commercials in forever, so I doubt the song/motto is still in use). It was a minor country hit, “Sounds Good To Me,” by Paul David Wells. His brother Gary is one of my best pals on Earth, and he still lives in my Kentucky hometown. Dunno what happened to Paul.
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Marion in Savannah
 

Y’all just pretend that the “as” isn’t there, y’hear?

 
 

Would Hitler in Kentucky be funny? Maybe he’s visiting his friend, Ron Vibbentrop, and considering running against Rand Paul to lead the National Bocialists wie so?

 
 

And FY Frank Deford. Also. Vidmar didn’t just “express his opinion.”. He actively campaigned and helped finance the prop 8 measure. A blatantly bigoted attempt to enshrine discrimination in the state constitution. Your whitewashing shows that you just don’t get it, that you think it’s okay to discriminate. Had Vidmar done such things with thetarget being Asians, or blacks would you react the same way? Frank, you’re part of the problem.

 
 

“It’s just not easy being a liberal in the south”

y’all in saner places don’t know the half of it

every hour where I work, a fresh assault on simple logic and/or basic human decency

don’t even get me started on what passes for religion down here

 
 

I actually know the guy who wrote the song used by the Tennessee Tourism Commission, years ago

i do recall this particular campaign of theirs…

 
 

My momma made the mistake of thinking that rural Tennessee couldn’t be *that* different from southeast Kansas and the culture wouldn’t be that difficult to adapt to…….

She did say that she’s heard several people who were all like ALGORE IS FAT! a couple of years ago are now like, “Five people died in a tornado and it won’t stop snowing. Maybe something weird is going on after all.”

 
 

The author was on Fresh Air yesterday. She is just a leetle bit too credulous.

 
 

It was amusing to hear Terry Gross say “lady, you’re a fucking loon” without saying “lady, you’re a fucking loon.”

 
 

The author was on Fresh Air yesterday. She is just a leetle bit too credulous.

Yeah, I heard it. Terry Gross was basically like, um, LOLWUT?

 
 

Oh. I blame iPhone for not checking URL first.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

You know who else genetically/surgically altered 13-year-olds to look like aliens?

I never knew Art Bell was a producer for NPR.

 
 

It was amusing to hear Terry Gross say “lady, you’re a fucking loon” without saying “lady, you’re a fucking loon.”

Yes, exactly. She seemed a little irritated that the woman was a guest on her program in the first place.

 
 

Which explains why their bourbon is so bad.

Sorry KY dude, but Jack Daniels is a SHIT bourbon.

 
 

JD is horrible. Horrible. And overpriced.

 
 

Tastes like butt.

 
 

It was amusing to hear Terry Gross say “lady, you’re a fucking loon” without saying “lady, you’re a fucking loon.”

Yes, exactly. She seemed a little irritated that the woman was a guest on her program in the first place.

Me lost. Who is this guest?

Someday Terry Gross will break out a 9mm and gun down one of the sleazy fucks she has to talk to. Gene Simmons is the first candidate that comes to mind.

 
 

And from Tennessee.

Psssh
Like there’s a difference.

 
 

And from Tennessee.

Well, that. Also, too.

I don ‘t understand why anyone would drink Jack Daniels when Jim Beam Black is, like, ten times better AND cheaper. The bottle even looks kind of the same, guys!

 
 

I don ‘t understand why anyone would drink Jack Daniels when Jim Beam Black is, like, ten times better AND cheaper. The bottle even looks kind of the same, guys!

Especially when Captain Morgan’s torches both.

 
 

I..um…sorry.

 
 

Anyone ever try the Gentleman Jack?

 
 

Especially when Captain Morgan’s torches both

i used to be in an exclusive relationship with the captain, but i got tired of him being such an asshole the day after one of our dates…

 
 

I..um…sorry.

Heh. No problem.

I casn’t really do Captain Morgan’s much anymore after the incidents surrounding July 4, 2001. (Or 2002. Not sure. I think 2001, though).

 
 

Anyone ever try the Gentleman Jack?

Sir, I AM A LADY!

 
 

I casn’t really do Captain Morgan’s much anymore after the incidents surrounding July 4, 2001. (Or 2002. Not sure. I think 2001, though).

he is a lying, cheating bastard! also, i read your link and wish i would have heard the interview…must check the podcasts…a vexed t.g. is an amusing t.g.

 
 

Someday Terry Gross will break out a 9mm and gun down one of the sleazy fucks she has to talk to. Gene Simmons is the first candidate that comes to mind.

Oh god yes. Talk about your justifuckingfiable homicide.

 
 

Sir, I AM A LADY!

Pics or it didn’t happen.

I’m just asking because I haven’t tried it and am genuinely curious. I’ve drank my way through a small number of bourbons and even though Gentleman Jack is readily available, I have nevar partaken. In part because I share the aversion that most do to JD – but mostly because I am old and lazy and set in my Bulleit-swilling ways.

 
 

Like she did to OReilly?

 
 

I haven’t tried it. I need to do more exploration of the brown liquors, really. And tequila.

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

I have started drinking Kraken rum lately. I like it better than Captain Morgan, and in a war of brand mascots, it should be able to defeat the Captain handily. Maybe not Captain Nemo, but he doesn’t have a rum named after him. it is good on the rocks, mixed with coke and mixed with cranberry juice, it has that certain special flavor that says ‘I’m getting ripped to the tits on cough syrup’.

 
 

And tequila

i would suggest this only if you want to rel-live your july 4, 200? episode…

 
 

Rum-lease the Kraken!

 
Helmut Monotreme
 

Rum = vitamin ARRRRR!

 
 

‘I’m getting ripped to the tits

borrowing this! i must say my first foray into the whiskie(y)s was ‘feckin whiskey’…it’s a cross between the captain and cheap ass whiskey…

 
 

Mt. Gay and tonic. Yummy.

 
 

Rum: try Sailor Jerry.

Whiskey: I’m partial to Maker’s Mark

Tequila: Stay away from that Cuervo Gold shit. Find yourself a good 100% agave silver and drink it neat (sip, don’t swill). Forget the salt and lime, that’s for Gringos. Actually, Cuervo makes a Tequila Reserva 1800 Silver that’s pretty damn good, but then I think Sauza makes a good silver too.

 
 

re: Tequila

Teh TMA blight has had the positive effect of distillers treating the blue agave with a bit more respect. Or more likely, better recognition of said tequila-merchants.

Youstabee you got Sauza or Cuervo – and on that basis I understand why most people avoid tequila like teh plague.

I’m not a big fan of tequila but I’m never going to turn down a glass of Patrón Reposado. There’s a material world of spirits that I have yet to try. The El Jimador in particular seems to rock my personal balance of rough and smooth.

 
 

Maker’s Mark

Oh yes indeed.

Also Rebel Yell. Don’t let the name fool ya.

Damn. Now I’m getting “thirsty”.

 
 

Maker’s Mark

Oh yes indeedy.

 
 

Also Rebel Yell. (Don’t let the name f00l you- damn fine whiskey.)

Fuck. Now I’m getting “thirsty”.

 
 

Youstabee you got Sauza or Cuervo
au contraire…while a high schooler in texas, we used to get bombed on ‘coronado’…it was the cheapest shit…

Maker’s Mark
teh hubby got a large bottle of this as a gift…i will give it a try…

 
 

Yer all making me mighty thirsty, and I have to work until 6 today dammit! Mt Gay rum is very fine, I like Barbencourt just a bit better though – with a little water and a bit of key lime juice. I used to have a co-worker who would bring me back a bottle whenever he went to visit family in Haiti. Then the bastard went and retired and now I have to buy my own.

 
 

Somebody rang?

Despite my nym, I also enjoy the distilled spirits. The small-batch bourbons can be good, but some of them get pretty rough treatment* by over-barrel-ing them, so they end up just tasting like alcoholic charcoal. Makers is a great go-to — just don’t fuck it up by mixing it too much. A splash of chilled water or if you must, a single ice cube, suffices. If you’re a cocktail type, a Makers Manhattan with a fucking tiny amount of good quality sweet vermouth and a splash of bitters is acceptable.

A cheap-yet-surprisingly-drinkable tequila is Sauza Commerativo — 100% agave and almost as cheap as the nasty “regular” stuff. I still have a hard time with tequila though, after my own incident many, many years ago. [shudder]

But Cap’n Morgan’s? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me…

 
 

Over-barrelling the spirits. Also too.

 
 

Splashing the bitters.

 
 

bill was doing unspeakable things with monica in the oval office

Can’t speak with your mouth full.

 
 

What doesn’t surprise is your continued wrongul conflation of homosexuality and pedophilia.

Given the repeated allusions from Spy about Stein’s own proclivities, I imagine he knows that pedophilia != homosexuality, so the conflation was merely for convenience.

New thread!

 
 

I’ve been obnoxious enough in this thread without starting on spirits. As the magic 8 ball sez: Ask again later.

Wut? New thread? Well, let me just say this about that……

 
 

Whiskey: I’m partial to Maker’s Mark

If we’re going to expand whiskey to include Makers, then Imma sayin’ Woodmont

 
 

Ron Howard said,
May 18, 2011 at 17:41

I, too, am lazily hasty.

DONALDE!!!!

 
 

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