“Won’t disclose weither or not he’s read…” Jesus. What the hell? What the hell?!
I mean, of COURSE he hasn’t READ them. Duh. But, not disclosing this? Jesus. “Run along, citizen. Nothing of interest here.”
I can’t decide weither or not this is more Orwellian or more “desperatly clinging to the loony base, while trying not to alienate the rest” Like when he got asked about the apocolypse, and just stood there like an idiot, stammering and flopping, “Dear God, someone tell me what to say”-like.

thing is, their narrative makes more sense than ours, since it has been constructed to be more emotionally appealing (we’re all getting SAVED!) and doubt-reducing than the real-world unvarnished scientific approach.

When I read fantasy in the 80’s Rosenberg was one of my favorite authors, but then he wandered off into some strange zone and hasn’t been back since.

Neither have I.

However one looks at it, if all of a sudden a wave of locusts appeared they would sprout woody’s thinking it was Rapture time. Happy, right up until we die, for no good reason.

Why is it that this stuff scares me more than all the evidence of the administration’s craven, cynical warmongering? It’s like, I can observe all the bad, wrong, downright evil policies and their effects and it pisses me off . . . but then I see this leader-of-the-free-world-keeping-his-off-the-charts-insane-reliance-on-apocalyptic-hack-fiction-under-wraps stuff and I feel actual cold panic in my heart.

SM- because cynical and conniving people are more rational and can at times be deterred. Religious fanatics? Rarely so.

When I read fantasy in the 80’s Rosenberg was one of my favorite authors, but then he wandered off into some strange zone and hasn’t been back since.

The SAME Joel Rosenberg? The guy who wrote D&D-type stuff? Wow.

The SAME Joel Rosenberg? The guy who wrote D&D-type stuff? Wow.

Yeah it’s amazing. Normally, I marvel at how I think of something as parody, and then the Bush administration goes out and does it. This time, they pre-empted me. I never thought they’d get this weird.

at the very least, the rest of the country is waking up to the idea that the fundies are coveting the Rapture so keenly.
yikes.
I read this shit and it bothers me to no end. their armageddon fantasies would explain so much, yet is such a morbid explanation. It’s almost easier to be oblivious to their zeal.

i need a bong hit.

The SAME Joel Rosenberg? The guy who wrote D&D-type stuff? Wow.

Same dood. He’s also a combat firearms instructor and has written a concealed carry book. Maybe he’s gonna shoot his way into heaven. Or maybe he just wants to make sure nobody cuts in line to get there…

mikeey

Uh, according to wikipedia, there are two Joel Rosenbergs who are novelists; Joel C. Rosenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_C._Rosenberg) who has only written three novels, including the Last Jihad, and Joel Rosenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Rosenberg) who writes sci-fi (Guardians of the Flame).

Is it just me, or does anybody else think of “The Dead Zone” when it come’s to Dumbya? I mean if you knew what really went on in his crazy brain just by shaking the guy’s hand?

*shudders*

[“]and they’re intrigued that these things keep on happening. . . . Your novels keep foreshadowing actual coming events. . . . And so we’re curious, how are you doing it? What’s the secret? Why don’t you come over and walk us through the story behind these novels?’ So I did.

Isn’t that a little like consulting an Astrologer? Looking to the stars for answers and all that? I’m surprised that Dubya would do something so new age.

Joel C Rosenberg is not the same as fantasy author Joel Rosenberg. I wrote about Joel C. here, for anyone who’s interested.

Dear God, Why Hast Thou Foresaken Us?

I have a theory on that.

It goes, “Because we keep listening to the guy that tells us if we spill a few more gallons of blood, God is sure to show up.”

Oh for the innocent days of Nancy Reagan and her astrologer.

All I can say is Thank God the Spaghetti Pullers are in charge. Can you imagine if it was the spaghetti pushers? They’d be basing their policies on some crazy nonsense fiction like astrology or paganism instead of made up stories based on prophecies written by people who thought they were speaking for God. That is so much more sensible and I mean that in a spaghetti pulling sort of way.

(oy I need a drink.)

My mind is going, Dave. I can feel it.

I’ve long debated with myself whether or not Georgie Porgy really embraces the religious craziness or if he is cynically using his supposed evangelism to get people to support him when his policies run directly counter to their well-being in any true, material sense in the real world. I have never been able to reach a conclusion On the one hand, he comes from a long-rich American aristocrat family that actually claims some sort of distant blood ties to the British royals. I believe they have long been reputed Episcopalians, until W’s, um, conversion. He was, at least nominally, educated at Yale. I’m inclined to believe that he is more likely to worship at Skull & Bones Cathedral than Tub-thumping Snake Handling Chapel.

However, the man is clearly not very bright. He brags that he never reads, kind of like waving a hand while shoouting, “I’m an idiot and I’ll prove it!” So I suppose it is possible that he does buy the whole stoopid Bible-thumper thing, hook, line, and grab the wheel if the rapture comes.

I, too, do not know which possibllity is more frightening. I suppose my lingering suspicion that he might be some sort of combination of the two terrifies me the most. A guy with his finger on the trigger and that kind of ripping dichotomy running around inside his head…. yikes.

Manos v. The Hands of Fate

The Rapture thing give George comfort as well as the support of people who call him a Messiah (salve for his damaged psyche)

But if he actively works to bring about the end times, he should qualify as Saved, eh? No matter how much he lies, kills, and steals while he’s in charge.

So full steam ahead with destruction of the constitution and rape of America, Georgie! A little more destabilization in the ME, and you’re IN!

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Amelia Earhart vs. The Dancing Bear

I suppose it is possible that he is simultaneously evil, stupid, and crazy.

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evil, Stupi, Crazy…

Unlucky, uncoordinated, and a mean drunk too.

He’s the guy in college who only got invited to parties because he was rich enough to bring enough drugs for everybody.

***He’s the guy in college who only got invited to parties because he was rich enough to bring enough drugs for everybody. ***

I think Gary Trudeau said that was just about exactly what Bush was like at Yale. I believe he said that W organized the kegs, or something to that effect.

Seriously, though, he’d have needed an awful lot of drugs and top-drawer hootch before I could have listened to that guy drone on for an entire evening.

Candy-

You never meet one of these guys in college did you?

You didn’t LISTEN to them. You simply sponged what you could. People found excuses to go elsewhere, whether it was a different conversation or a different party. If you were the last one to bail, you lost; he was your bud for the rest of the night. On the plus side, he always had more drugs or bought more booze; on the down side, he would be a social leper.

Really, this guy is used to people suddenly remembering they have to go somewhere else; it goes a long way to explaining all the little dominance bull that Georgie pulls.

Seriously, though, he’d have needed an awful lot of drugs and top-drawer hootch before I could have listened to that guy drone on for an entire evening.

Oh, don’t worry. He’d stop talking, once he was sure you’d drank the drink he laced with roofies. The last thing you’d hear before consciousness left on a good, long vacation is Dumbya saying, “Get ready to meet mah little cheerleader… and his pom-poms. Ah-heh-heh-heh!” And Dumbya’s zipper opening, of course.

No, alas, I attended a community college so I was spared the frat boy thing, mercifully.

But you’re right, I think. It does explain certain things about his psychology, especially the way he deals, or, rather, doesn’t deal, with the press corps. He’s the big cheese; press people who are much smarter and were probably popular in college are stuck hanging out there and taking his shit.

He’s just a really big dork. (Not literally, probably.)

Oh, Marq! How will I ever sleep tonight? I’ll be afraid to close my eyes!

Hey! Do you think he keeps Condi drugged? It would explain a lot!

So the “Bushies” really ARE sticking pins in Bibles to determine foreign policy!

Funny that our gov’t wants to destroy one religeon to replace it with another….

“Oh God! Why have you forsaken me?!”

The new Celtic Frost JAMS!

[…] Washington Post article via Sadly, No!: Joel C. Rosenberg, who writes Christian apocalyptic fiction, told me in an interview this week that he was invited to a White House Bible study group last year to talk about current events and biblical prophecy. […]

obligatory:

My God! It’s full of shit!

originally due to commentor goatboy, I believe…

Is Rosenberg a Jew for Jesus?

Well, for what it’s worth, Wikipedia is correct this time; I’m not Joel C. Rosenberg, and he’s not me. We are very not the “same dood.” He’s younger, and his books — sadly for me — sell better than mine.

But, Mikey’s right about a couple of things — I’m also a firearms instructor (I wouldn’t add the “combat”, myself; I’m an avoid-the-combat-if-possible firearms instructor), have written two books on carrying handguns (and am working on a third), as well as the fiction.

None of which is likely to find favor with many readers of “Sadly, No”; much of my thinking on the ongoing war in the Mideast will be found in my dialogue with Jerry Pournelle, on his website.

I feel like I’m in a dream, or maybe its a flashback, and I’m asking George Bush to open the pod bay doors but all he does is sing, “Daisy, Dais-eee….”

I’m also a firearms instructor (I wouldn’t add the “combat�, myself; I’m an avoid-the-combat-if-possible firearms instructor), have written two books on carrying handguns (and am working on a third), as well as the fiction.

None of which is likely to find favor with many readers of “Sadly, No�;

Largely irrelevant, but you know what? I’m a liberal who likes guns. I don’t have an arsenal–I don’t even own one because, well, I don’t think someone seeing a psychiatrist SHOULD own a gun. But I’m a damn good shot, and have used my dad’s .22 rifle several times–target shooting, killing groundhogs (they’re destructive little critters), and his 12-gauge shotgun and celebrating New Years’ Eve (hey, they live in rural PA–it’s not like shooting off a gun in South Philly).

Of course, I also think you should have a license to be able to buy a gun–namely, you should have to pass a safety test, just like driving a car.

Bike=car, knife=gun. A matter of degrees.

I also like archery and swords.

Anyway, some of us liberals like guns.

For the record–I’m not a card-carrying member of the NRA, but I probably could be. I think that it’s an essential right that we can bear arms, and that this right must be practiced to keep it alive.

I am appalled that Mary Jones would fire a firearm to celebrate the new year. I’ve got an uncle who is a gun nut, and also lives in rural PA, and I think that he would be appalled, too.

Well, enough harranguing. Some positive advice: if you must fire a firearm to celebrate, point the muzzle at the ground. Stray bullets have a habit of being quite dangerous.

I am appalled that Mary Jones would fire a firearm to celebrate the new year. I’ve got an uncle who is a gun nut, and also lives in rural PA, and I think that he would be appalled, too.

OK, keep in mind I was 18 at the time. I’m now 27 and haven’t done it since then. Also, my parents live on four acres surrounded by woods, so even if it was foolish, I wasn’t about to hit a person.

Celebratory gunfire into the air? Bad idea; what goes up will come down. Celebratory gunfire into a legitimate target? Kind of a, err, blast. I’ll assume Mary did the latter.

As to some liberals liking gun and/or understanding the count from 1 to 10 in the Bill of Rights includes that awkward #2, well, of course some do. And ditto for getting carry permits — I’ve had people from rather to the right of me to beyond the DailyKos far left in my carry classes, after all.

But, by and large — and with some notable exceptions — the theory and practice of RKBA has largely been done by the moderate right, not the left.

But, by and large — and with some notable exceptions — the theory and practice of RKBA has largely been done by the moderate right, not the left.

Well, I don’t disagree with you. Even more so, I really wish lefty environmentalists (like myself) would team up with hunters more often. We basically want the same thing, even if for different reasons (or, for more reasons than one).

(Oh, and can I just point out once again that I was 18? People do stupid things when they’re 18. I’ve since been schooled.)

4 acres aint enough for celebratory gunfire into the air. It depends on how much woods you’ve got downrange of the target. As MythBusters proved, shooting straight up in the air won’t kill you (bullet loses spin at apex and tumbles down on it’s side at a relatively slow velocity), but that requires hardware to ensure verticality. Any slight lean and that bullet is sailin’ for miles, retains it’s spin and ballistics and is very deadly.

We would fire my dad’s cap-n-ball 36cal revolver, aimed horizontally at the hill 1/4 mile behind our house where no one lived (at that time, now someone’s built a house back there right on the edge of our property. My how that pistol shoots flames! It is a gas to fire at night when you can see that five foot long tongue of blue flame!

He also has a 30-06 Winchester lever action rifle, but the bullets are almost a dollar apeice. He got that for those groundhogs mentioned above. He has horses and the last thing he wants it the hayfield filled with leg-breaking gopher holes.

At 40, living back in the boondocks of Vermont, I do not own a firearm. I have lots of live steel around, from a hand-and-a-half sword down to a 12′ dagger with the workhorse being a black-bladed machete. If I were to purchase a firearm, I’d get a 20ga pump shotgun. If I had lots of money, I’d get side-by-side and saw it off short, like Mad Max…

When I lived in NYC for 20 years (and never got mugged!) I certainly did NOT want a gun and didn’t want anyone around me to have one either. Vermont has no gun laws and few restrictions (like the 80 year old gold-leaf on the doors to the courthouse, saying ‘No Weapons in Courthouse’, or the sign on the edge of town ‘No Rifle Shooting – Buckshot only”).

I’m a Liberal that likes guns…