First!

Lloyd Marcus is the songwriter and vocalist of the “American Tea Party Anthem.”

Rock on.

Whats on Second! Thank God for a new non-strikethrough thread!

mango mango…

For example, how many black youths are aware that ending slavery was a major issue of the Civil War.

Liar. It was ‘States Rights’!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucy: Thanks for leaving the New Thread announcement on the last one. I wish more Sadlies had your courtesy and helpfulness. I don’t know why they don’t all do it.

I never get out of the boat, btw. I just wait for reckless souls to go ashore and listen to their tales when they return. I have learned to trust the Shorter.

Also Tintin does great Shorters. His hook here is a fine example: Once sentence from him and I know the genus of the terrible beasts that prowl the far shore.

Away team reporting in:

As a proud American who happens to be black

Tokenism generalized across entire culture – check.

How many black youths know the Republican Party ended and abolished slavery in the United States and have championed Civil Rights more than any other political party?

Party of Lincoln allusion – check.

Because regardless of what the Left says, we were founded on Godly principles.

Piety of Founding Fathers reference – check.

Throughout American history, white folks, mostly Christians; there’s that dirty “C” word which the left despises; suffered, sacrificed and died to help set blacks free and move them forward.

Blatantly inappropriate use of semicolon; check!

Status confirmed, Captain. No intelligent life on this planet. Only memetic replicators and other tools. Ready to beam up.

Throughout American history, white folks, mostly Christians; there’s that dirty “C” word which the left despises; suffered, sacrificed and died to help set blacks free and move them forward.

Absolutely. And they were called nigger-lovers, race traitors, communist agents, and the lowest word in the right’s vocabulary, liberals, because of it.

Include a few “shout outs” to decent God fearing righteous white folks who helped.

Yeah, because God forbid you should just give a shout out to the decent white folks who helped and might not have been God fearing.

It is a month in which black kids are taught they are victims and white kids are taught they are guilty.

Heh. This white kid has never been taught that he was guilty, nor does he think of himself as guilty. He’s been taught that you were guilty, you and all the POS’s like you who think they’re better than the rest of mankind because they’re part of the right ethnic or sectarian club (“God fearing”).

Why? Because regardless of what the Left says, we were founded on Godly principles.

Us, every country in Europe and quite a few countries outside of it, for the last two thousand years, and that’s just limiting “godly” to Christian. The notion that all a nation needs is a foundation on Christian principles to turn out well isn’t supported by history.

And what the Left says is irrelevant. What the Founding Fathers said (“As the United States is not, in any sense, founded upon the Christian religion…” “… a wall of separation between church and state…” “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”) is all that matters.

(gah, that was supposed to be ‘primitive tools’ – like WP, ferinstance)

Our liberal anti-American public school system…

Coach Philips was a dedicated Maoist revolutionary and Mrs. Gaines’ fifth period algebra class was a hotbed of treason.

primitive tools

Band name and VPR!!!!

Strange. The planet was also entirely devoid of mangoes.

So I’m sitting here in a comfortable wicker chair on the lee side of the boat, in my Sidney Greenstreet white linen suit and panama hat, sipping a mint julep, and flicking away annoying insects with my ivory-handled flyswatter.

While waiting for the intrepid souls to return from the shore, a speculative thought occurs to me: Perhaps Double Stuf and Dan-o suffer from the some general sort of self-loathing problem?

Ah, thank you, steward. I’ll light it up now.

so African-Americans should support the political party that throughout most of its history opposed segregation? So he’s saying that African-Americans should all be Communist because it sure as hell isn’t either the republicans or the Democrats…

Primitive Tools

I’ll pass that along the guys in the band. They bicker endlessly about our new name.

Money shot:

In the long run, we always strive to do the right thing. We celebrate courage, righteousness and personal achievement. Peerlessly generous, Americans are swift to the aid of people in need regardless of where they live in the world.

In the long run, we’re all dead, so I guess if you’re one of the ones who doesn’t live to see us do the “right thing” in the long run, sucks to be you. We celebrate obscene wealth and little else – certainly not “righteousness” unless it includes outright thievery and selfishness. We’re so “peerlessly generous” that most teabaggers are up in arms over the 1% we spend on foreign aid, and the group which Marcus speaks for, Teatard Nation, has as its animating force the desire to make sure poor or unfortunate Americans get no help whatsoever with regard to health care. So much for “swift to the aid of people regardless of where they live in the world” – your average Teabagger wouldn’t hove his fat ass out of the Hoveround to support health insurance coverage for his own kids or grandkids down the block.

Lloyd Marcus fluffs Rush Limbaugh:

Rush is inspirational. Typically, upbeat, optimistic and positive…

As usual, Ensign Bughunter and intrepid Chris efficiently describe, dissect, and dispose of the carcass.

They bicker endlessly about our new name.

I still think there’s nothing wrong with Mystik Spiral.

As usual, Ensign Bughunter and intrepid Chris efficiently describe, dissect, and dispose of the carcass.

Mmm. Blood was drawn, but it was still breathing until Jennifer drove a stake through its heart.

Snorg: Are you sure you lifted Double Stuf’s words correctly? I thought Rush is perspirational.

Stockhomes syndrome.

Not my original phrase, someone else came up with it here I believe; but a perfect fit.

About that one percent in foreign aid, Jesus had a line about people giving from their needs and not from their riches. In terms of foreign aid in absolute numbers, we’re at the top; foreign aid in percentage of GDP, we consistently rank way at the bottom. In other words, most people are giving far more of what they have than we are, which is what generosity actually means.

Jennifer drove a stake through its heart.

She was merciful to end the suffering.

What a tragic spectacle on display. A grown man who’s perverted his own pride into defending those who shaft his former people.

To be fair, though, the group of honkies he’s pathetically trying to appease aren’t only against black people. So maybe ‘racism’ is too small a word. Is there a word for “anyone-not-defined-as-my-tribe-can-go-fuck-themselves”-ism?

Besides conservatism, of course.

The Variants said,

Lucy: Thanks for leaving the New Thread announcement on the last one. I wish more Sadlies had your courtesy and helpfulness. I don’t know why they don’t all do it.

We’re a bunch of callous a-holes, dontcha know?
~

The sabotaged thread

Whether Righteous Bubba or some other anonymous asshole was responsible for the Strikethrough infection, I was very pleased to see how the Sadlies shrugged it off, improvised, and drove on with the thread undismayed and undetered.

Not to overdraw the parallel, but it seemed to echo Liberation Square: Fuck the thugs. We aren’t going away and we won’t be stopped.

On that thought, I’m heading off the Egypt for a while. Have fun.

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply in ways you can barely imagine.

I did it for the nigras.

US aid to Egypt is what, a gigabuck and half each year? 2/3 of which is military. That billion dollars in “aid” is actually a billion dollars spent with US military contractors. It’s a sweet deal for Boeing.

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply in ways you can barely imagine.

Yeah, us too.

US aid to Egypt is what, a gigabuck and half each year? 2/3 of which is military. That billion dollars in “aid” is actually a billion dollars spent with US military contractors. It’s a sweet deal for Boeing.

Oh yeah, should’ve mentioned that too, that they define military assistance to authoritarian regimes part of “foreign aid.” But hey, they’re charitable and generous and shit. Really.

Chris said,

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply in ways you can barely imagine.

Yeah, us too.

Are you joining the class-action lawsuit?

I approve this message!

The fact that the highest office in the land is occupied by a black man confirms that the good in America’s history outweighs the bad.

That’s one small logical misstep for a dipshit … & one giant leap of faith for Amerikakind!

We rally around the underdog and cheer for the good guy.

Botha, Pol Pot, Trujillo, Mobutu, Somoza & the Shah Of Iran: underdogs & good guys, one & all.

This guy’s sure hung up awful damn hard on “the Left’s guilt trips” – if all the nasty stuff the DFH-types keep pointing out gives him The Ick Feeling, he may still be operating with some vestigal remnants of a conscience … in other words, he’s on the verge of committing the unspeakable heresy of First Degree RINO While Black.

Quick, kill that empathy before it’s too late! Caring makes you ghey & appeases terrorism, man! FIGHT THE POWERLESS!

What is Black History Month in the minds of most American youths? Is it a celebration of black achievement? I think not. It is a month in which black kids are taught they are victims and white kids are taught they are guilty.

The greatest achievement was simply surviving the victimization, Lloyd.

But by all means Lloyd, let’s pretend slavery was a victimless crime!
Makes it much less embarrassing for everyone doesn’t it?

We’re a bunch of callous a-holes, dontcha know?

How many callous assholes equals one Hitler?

…slavery was a victimless crime!

According to that GA State Rep., they’re not victims, they’re ‘accusers’.

Coach Philips was a dedicated Maoist revolutionary and Mrs. Gaines’ fifth period algebra class was a hotbed of treason.

The anarcho-syndicalists have taken over the science club!

…your average Teabagger wouldn’t hove his fat ass out of the Hoveround to support health insurance coverage for his own kids or grandkids down the block.

Little shits ate all my cookies 20 years ago!!

I ventured into the depths of the swamp and barely escaped with my life sanity. The self-loathing is strong with this one.

Meanwhile, much of white America’s efforts to “do the right thing” are ignored. For example, how many black youths are aware that ending slavery was a major issue of the Civil War. On the side desiring to end slavery, 360,000 mostly white soldiers died.

I’m just…I can’t … I don’t even… Trying to get my head around that….Gaaaaah losing my mind again must move on

For reasons only a psychiatrist can understand, liberals are obsessed with focusing on the evils of American history.

Thank you Dr. Doublestuff.

US aid to Egypt is what, a gigabuck and half each year? 2/3 of which is military. That billion dollars in “aid” is actually a billion dollars spent with US military contractors. It’s a sweet deal for Boeing. — Pup

Precisely. Break down ‘military aid’ into a pie-chart. By far the largest slice is purchase of sophisticated, US-made, big-ticket weapons / systems. As Pup said, it is a sweet deal…for every US weapons-making corporation.

“How many callous assholes equals one Hitler?”

One callous asshole is roughly equal to a milliHitler, that amount of dickishness sufficient to establish a one year Reich.

Does this make him a NINO?

I did intend to append “et al.” after Boeing. FYiPad and WP both.

“NINO”

Ouch. LOL. Ouch. LOL. Rinse. Repeat.

The anarcho-syndicalists have taken over the science club!

Not to mention metal shop.

It’s always “funny” to see these “conservatives aren’t racist” type posts use the same damn argument. Hey, Lincoln was a Republican. Thus Republicans were conservative in the time of Lincoln (specifically socially conservative) and there has been no dramatic shift in say, the last 50 years that involved the racists from one party moving to the other while the blacks and liberals moved to the other.

I wonder why they don’t defend historical conservative activists on black civil rights. Or why they don’t have proud examples since the Civil Rights Act of proud Republicans standing up for black civil rights.

Oh wait, no I don’t, because I’m not a moron trying to get around the cognitive dissonance of supporting people who actively want to see you hang.

I guess they assume it’s enough to deceive the ultra-racists who are looking for any excuse they can grab to deflect “accusations of racism” or as we know it in the sane world, people calling a spade a spade.

But seriously, if it consistently requires this little effort and the same drivel will serve over and over, why bother recruiting the few black people self-loathing enough to write it. Why not have David Duke just vomit it out so everyone can harrumph and go hear hear?

“people calling a spade a spade.”

I see what you do there.

Exciting Lloyd Marcus ringtones can be yours for a modest fee.

For reasons only a psychiatrist can understand, liberals are obsessed with focusing on the evils of American history.

Yeah, those damn liberals, always trying to acknowledge that our history isn’t squeaky clean. If they just let us “clean up” the messy bits, then our constant pleas to go back to the old days wouldn’t at all sound obscene. Obviously, since it’s all about attacking conservatives directly, this focus isn’t based on trying to get an accurate read on history and a willingness to deal with one’s country on a mental wavelength above a toddler’s, but rather a direct assault on this whitewashed nostalgia for a time that never was, probably for political gain.

Seriously, comic books (even in the ultra-silly silver age) have more moral complexity in themes, than the bullshit conservatives want everything to be boiled down to.

Oh, and pro-tip fuckwads, we wouldn’t have to “constantly harp” about how much long ago sucked if you weren’t constantly trying to “take us back” while denying anything bad happened.

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply in ways you can barely imagine.

Right there. That’s the tell. He’s fallen in love with his abusers.

Of course, his audience is oblivious of the perversion of having one’s rights ‘championed’ by the worst fucking bigots and racists in society. Because they’re the fucking bigots and racists. (Not to mention cognitive dissonance addicts.)

It’s like an abused wife saying “but when he’s kind to me, it’s so much more special!”

Listen, I understand better than anyone the need for near-constant attention and validation. It’s just that I usually seek it from people whom I genuinely like and/or respect, not people who secretly hate me.

The pats on the head these women misogynists, self-loathing gays and black defenders of racism receive from conservatives must be really long, sexually stimulating and satisfying because otherwise I can’t imagine this pursuit of wingnut love to be worth it.

And also: Brown Sugar Cinnamon Pop Tarts (frosted, of course) transform from boring when cold into the Food of the Gods when toasted *just* until the frosting starts to caramelize.

I’ll be in my breakfast nook.

It’s always “funny” to see these “conservatives aren’t racist” type posts use the same damn argument. Hey, Lincoln was a Republican. Thus Republicans were conservative in the time of Lincoln (specifically socially conservative) and there has been no dramatic shift in say, the last 50 years that involved the racists from one party moving to the other while the blacks and liberals moved to the other.

Fifty years? I’d say the Republicans stopped being pro-civil rights as early as the 1870s. They abandoned civil rights long before Democrats picked it up again.

Follow-on to my comment @ 18:58 : I strongly favor nationalizing ALL United States weapons-manufactering. There are several compelling economic, political and military reasons to so do. I’m sure that other Sadlies can elaborate on them.

There is also a powerful moral reason. The very idea of deriving profit from weapons-manufacturing is morally repugnant.

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply in ways you can barely imagine.

read: “It reminds me of that summer I was a congressional page…”

Mrs. Gaines’ fifth period algebra class

Al-gebra?

MUSLIN!

Dear Lloyd,

I take no pleasure in telling you this, but it is the truth. No matter how much you kowtow to these people, act as their token, defend their right to feel special based on their skin color, sing songs for them, shine their shoes etc etc etc etc, at the end of the day, you’re still a nigger to them.

Yours truly,

Uppity C. McUterushost

Brown Sugar

ehhhhhhhh, never mind……..

Coach Philips was a dedicated Maoist revolutionary and Mrs. Gaines’ fifth period algebra class was a hotbed of treason.

Ugh… I still have flashbacks to Teacher O’Riley’s (don’t call her Miss!) Commune Economics class.I had to write “I fear and loathe America’s borgeois rulers” 1000 times on the black board just because I asked to learn how to set up a lemonade stand when I was supposed to be making Molotov cocktails.

I guess when you’re convinced, deep down, that you’re inferior simply because of basic characteristics that you can’t change, it makes sense in some sick way to try and get the approval of people who made you feel that way in the first place.

Because regardless of what the Left says, we were founded on Godly principles.

I wonder how badly the people who baaaaw about the Founding Fathers were Christian would freak out if you described deism to them.

News from Egypt; well, this latest church bombing is certainly convenient, isn’t it?

I call false flag operation. Like our elites here, Mubarak’s figuring out how to keep his people fighting along ethnic lines so they won’t be bothering with him. But he’s a got a far angrier people to deal with than the Koch crowd does.

Jim on a roll:

The fact that the highest office in the land is occupied by a black man confirms that the good in America’s history outweighs the bad.

That’s one small logical misstep for a dipshit … & one giant leap of faith for Amerikakind!

We rally around the underdog and cheer for the good guy.

Botha, Pol Pot, Trujillo, Mobutu, Somoza & the Shah Of Iran: underdogs & good guys, one & all.

Thanks! I had forgotten some of those. We doubled on Somoza & Shah. My list had Marcos, Diem, Musharraf, the House of Saud, Saddam Hussein.

Sure have been a lot of them, huh?

Pinochet. Also.

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply

HOTT.

Right. White people have been responsible for every advancement of blacks ever. Wonder if this guy has ever heard of Mansa Musa, who managed to depress the price of gold in Eqypt for a generation after passing through while on Hajj.

Not getting out of the boat. Not a fucking chance.

Yaaaaaaaaaaawn.

This post could have been written by a computer program that repeats Republican talking points. At least when Bert Prezlutzky goes after the National Endowment for the Arts there’s at least some sign he actually thought through what he was saying.

Cerebus: Loud applause for 19:06 & 19:14

Late joiners: If you missed them, scrolling up is well worth it.

Ya know Variants, you could probably shorthand that to the opposite of what he said – if there’s an underdog anywhere in the world, it’s really good odds that the United States is against him. Really really good odds. And within the U.S, the odds of an underdog having the conservatives on his side are virtually nil: they’ll always side with the strong. Heck, has this guy read Ayn Rand? It’s a blatant cult of power.

Throughout American history, white folks, mostly Christians; there’s that dirty “C” word

Actually that’s not the one I was thinking of.

No new thread.

Coach Philips was a dedicated Maoist revolutionary and Mrs. Gaines’ fifth period algebra class was a hotbed of treason.

Ugh… I still have flashbacks to Teacher O’Riley’s (don’t call her Miss!) Commune Economics class.

I suffered in People’s Education Collective #148. I dreaded going to Worker-Teacher Buhkarin’s third-period Geometry Cadre.

All in all, I hated school and spent a lot of time in the Commissar’s Office and in Detention, which was no picnic! About the only thing I enjoyed was the Marching Band Collective. There was a LOT of marching at PEC 148 !

OT: From ‘the daily what’: Link to yfrog, a photo from the protests in Egypt. ‘Christians protecting Muslims during prayer’. Nice, hey.

“Computer program that repeats Republican talking points”

The Pence-itron 2000!

Wonder if this guy has ever heard of Mansa Musa, who managed to depress the price of gold in Eqypt for a generation after passing through while on Hajj.

Mansa Musa only hit the big time because he put his life savings into Enron stocks.

Lucy: Thanks for leaving the New Thread announcement on the last one. I wish more Sadlies had your courtesy and helpfulness. I don’t know why they don’t all do it.

Fuck that faggot shit.

Fuck that faggot shit

Sir, I have sprayed sherry over the key-board of my computing machine.

Exford, that will come out with a medium-fine cutting compound and a wool pad at maybe 800 RPM. Be real careful you don’t burn the finish.

WOLVERINES!!!

O/T, we used to make pot brownies and then roll them into the shape of cat shits. Here’s the ingenious part: we also sprinkled them with brown rock sugar, which closely resembles kitty litter.

The comedic effect engendered by consuming one of these tasty treats in front of the uninitiated was beyond the power of mere words to describe.

Actually now that I think of it, not so off-topic. I believe the gentleman to whom this post is linked was known by his many white friends as ‘Cat Shit’ in college.

that’s a great photo, exford.
Although I suspect that they’re not REAL Christians!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply in ways you can barely imagine.

Show me on the doll.

Exford: Very nice photo! And true to what the spirit of people seems to have been so far (at least over the last seven days that I’ve been glued to Aljazeera). IMO, provocateur violence against religious places attempting to seed religious division will neither deceive them nor deter them.

Recent news: Branch of Egyptian gas pipeline supplying Jordan ruptured by explosion, now flaming out of control, well over a hundred feet high. Gas delivery to Jordan suspended for a week. Government says a leak. (The cynical might suspect deliberate sabotage, even at the certainty of damaging Egyptian revenues.)

For that matter, I’ve wondered if / when the electricty and/or water will be shut off. I think it highly unlikely now, btw. But it was a plausible move several days ago.

Humor: The people occupying Liberation Square are improvising their own sanitation. They’ve been collecting refuse in large plastic bags … and labelling with names of Cabinent members, NPD leaders, and other government officials.

I so admire these people. Apologies for being so far off topic. I’ll catch up the thread later.

there’s that dirty “C” word
“Communist”?

Pinochet. Also.
I do not regard the invention of the wine-flinging trebuchet as an advance.

PENIS…2… 3… 4.

“If erection shoots sparks for more than 4 hours or bursts into flames, consult a physician.”

“I do not regard the invention of the wine-flinging trebuchet as an advance.”

I do…if it’s flung directly into my mouth. The wine, not the trebutchet or century gothic or whatever.

See, I know how to sound like a good little colored boy who knows his place on the Liberal Plantation. Democrat Massa’s chief overseer Sharpton would be proud of me.

Wow, is he suggesting that one of our political parties cynically leverages whiny black spokespeople, yet refuses to give black people any substantive power? Let’s look at the evidence!

Congress (Majority Party)
Black Committee Chairs

112th (Republican)
N/A
111th (Democratic)
John Conyers, Jr., Judiciary
Charles B. Rangel, Ways and Means
Charles B. Rangel, Joint Committee on Taxation
Bennie Thompson, Homeland Security
Edolphus Towns , Oversight & Govt Reform

110th (Democratic)
John Conyers, Jr., Judiciary
Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Standards of Official Conduct
Juanita Millender-McDonald, House Administration
Charles B. Rangel, Ways and Means
Bennie Thompson, Homeland Security

109th (Republican)
N/A
108th (Republican)
N/A
107th (Republican)
N/A
106th (Republican)
N/A
105th (Republican)
N/A
104th (Republican)
N/A
103rd (Democratic)
William Lacy (Bill) Clay, Sr., Post Office and Civil Service
John Conyers, Jr., Government Operations
Ronald V. Dellums, Armed Services
102nd (Democratic)
William Lacy (Bill) Clay, Sr., Post Office and Civil Service
John Conyers, Jr., Government Operations
Ronald V. Dellums, District of Columbia
Charles B. Rangel, Narcotics Abuse and Control (Select)
Louis Stokes, Standards of Official Conduct
101st (Democratic)
John Conyers, Jr., Government Operations
Ronald V. Dellums, District of Columbia
Julian Carey Dixon, Standards of Official Conduct
Augustus Freeman (Gus) Hawkins, Education and Labor
George Thomas (Mickey) Leland, Hunger (Select)
Charles B. Rangel, Narcotics Abuse and Control (Select)
100th (Democratic)
John Conyers, Jr., Government Operations
Ronald V. Dellums, District of Columbia
Julian Carey Dixon, Standards of Official Conduct
Augustus Freeman (Gus) Hawkins, Education and Labor
George Thomas (Mickey) Leland, Hunger (Select)
Charles B. Rangel, Narcotics Abuse and Control (Select)

Preview promised me a neat, shiny table!

I just saw an Egyptian Army M-48 Patton tank! Christ, those things were already obsolete way back when I was in the service! Probably has upgrades (e.g., targeting systems). All the rest of the tanks are later tank models.

I wonder were this artifact came from? Some Reservist formation? An ordnance museum?

Also, the boxy Armored Personnel Carriers you see all over the place on the TV clips? They are M-113s ! The exact same APC’s we used in Germany in the early 1970’s. (Before the current Bradley APC.)

Sorry I got carried away with a longish hardware comment. But the old Patton was hilarious to me.

Perhaps more than any other history based argument, I despise the “Republicans were anti-slavery therefore black people should love is” argument. It’s as if Richard Nixon and the southern strategy never happened. Morons.

More on the pipeline: It supplies 80% of Jordanian energy needs. The line also runs to Israel, btw.

Pup: IMO, you have been on a phenomenal roll throughout the whole thread. Out in the MVP stratosphere.

Let’s look at the evidence!

That’s commie talk!

Dot said,

Perhaps more than any other history based argument, I despise the “Republicans were anti-slavery therefore black people should love is” argument. It’s as if Richard Nixon and the southern strategy never happened. Morons.

Well before Nixon, Barry Goldwater led the Party of Money down that path by opposing the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
~

PENIS…2… 3… 4.

Goodness gracious great balls of fire!

They are M-113s! The exact same APC’s we used in Germany in the early 1970?s.

Also in Veet-Nam, 50 yrs. ago.

PIPELINE ISREAL!!!

How I feel about getting off the boat, or, er, out of the bucket…

white people were responsible for every advancement of the Negro race kidnapped & enslaved.

Just for moral clarity.

Also: “Negro.” Really, Lloyd Marcus?

Hey, it only took 24 years for Republicans to put a woman on their Presidential ticket after the Democrats did it first. I’m sure by 2032 the REAL party of civil rights will be ready to nominate a black man for President.

Pfffffft.

and lynched.

Ya know, some of the women reporters and anchors on Aljazeera are totally HAWT.

Monica Villamazar (in DC). Nisram Haven’tGotHerLongLastNameYet in Amman.

And in documentary clips, the totally gutsy AJ war correspondent reporting from Gaza during Cast Lead. (Big bangs would shatter Gretchen or Megan or Greta.).

Something excites me about exceptionally beautiful woman in BP vest and helmet. Or fatigues, camo, web gear. Tough and buff. (Hey, get your own damn sex fantasy.)

Also, wot’s happened to the thread? It was smokin’ hot earlier!

white people were responsible for every Negro kidnapped & enslaved.

No, no, no. They were bought from other Africans on the free market, who were much more savage to them, so it is not white people who are to blame but black people (‘specially the Muzlims) and the fact is also that white Christians heroically ended slavery, and besides white people were slaves too, also!!!

Oh. LOTS more people here than the last time I checked in. Never mind.

*Emily Litella facial expression here*

“Bwok, bwok, cock!”

Stop using giant cocks as a weapon. Stop using giant cocks.

Re: The Party of Lincoln

The only response any self-respecting African-American (PC, hate it, but whatevs) can offer is “Sure, but what have you done for me LATELY?”

IOW, Janet Jackson covered this argument definitively. Almost 30 years ago.

Republicans’ championing of civil rights touches us deeply in ways you can barely imagine.

Show me on the doll.

Here.

I love that he carefully calls himself an American of African descent, NOT an African-American, as though this were not just another form of political correctness.

If the NAACP and Al Sharpton decided that “African-American” connotes not-fully-American and asked everyone to please say “American of African descent” you can bet that this guy wouldn’t go for it.

OMG, bughunter. You damned near killed me with that link. Goes to show- NEVER eat while reading S,N!

I think you’re the only survivor, Snowwy.

(Like your blog btw)

No love lost here:

http://bossip.com/156905/coon-of-the-day-lloyd-marcus/

For reasons to obscure to explain, I’ve been dialed in very close on Jerusalem using Google Earth. I found these two Christian churches along the Via Dolorosa:

Church of the Flagellation … and (my fave) Church of Our Lady of the Spasm.

FROGSE!!

Did anybody win the ham yet?

I never saw such a plump, juicy ham in all my puff.

Sorry for the delayed reaction, Exford, but,

OT: From ‘the daily what’: Link to yfrog, a photo from the protests in Egypt. ‘Christians protecting Muslims during prayer’. Nice, hey.

Every now and then I read a story like this and feel like maybe there really is hope for mankind after all.

Other stories of the type include Jews, Irish-Catholics and working-class London WASPs coming together at Cable Street to stand up to the Blackshirts. Stories from the Iraqi civil war about Sunni militias protecting Shi’a neighbors from AQI thugs. All the Egyptian Muslims who came out a few weeks ago to act as human shields for the Christian communities. And now this. I like, thanks for posting it.

T&U? That ledge you keep wanting to be talked off? This kind of news is a good place to start.

….maybe there really is hope for mankind after all.

Nah.

Ya know, some of the women reporters and anchors on Aljazeera are totally HAWT.

The Middle East has the highest rate of insanely hot women of any place I’ve ever been to or interacted with. Not that I’m objectifying women or anything, but, if I was…

Nah.

You’re right. This IS Sadly, No, after all.

Hey, I’m just grateful he didn’t trot out that “not by the color of their skin” line. Or was MLK another “race profiteer”?

bughunter, I have to ask myself why Substance did not manage to put up that link first.

Or that asshole Righteous Bubba.

Hey! Bubba-bughunter-Righteous Bughunter! It would be irresponsible not to speculum…

….maybe there really is hope for mankind after all.

should have answered that with a “Sadly, No!” that linked to frogse..

Must go drink beer(s).

“Black American Dreads Black History Month”

Brother could use some dreads. I suspect he’s got Roger L. Simon-head under that hat.

It would be irresponsible not to speculum

Somebody’s been reading the next round of Republican legislation on reproductive rights issues.

Bubba-bughunter-Righteous Bughunter! It would be irresponsible not to speculum…

Not about Ensign Bughunter! The ensign may be a love muppet, but he is a superior recon specialist for dangerous missions ashore. Ensign Bughunter is clearly officer material. I am offended–deeply offended, sir–by such irresponsible speculation. Or speculum or specula or whatever.

There’s jack-shit on tv tonight. I might actually have to do something like–gulp–read. HORRIFYING.

Intersting development: Egyptian banks will open again on Sunday. The government ordered them closed a week ago.

low sodium hunchback said,

Nah.

Says the guy who swings in yelling “Sanctuary! Sanctuary!” and saves the day.

VS: What did you select to read? What’s in your queue?

Questions for anyone, actually….

Isn’t Michael York, oh um pardon me, Sir Michael York a little old for The City?

Nothing that’s going to impress anyone here, I reckon: “Full Dark No Stars”. Stephen King.

Well I for one love Stephen King. And I’m not just saying that to get in your pants.

tide goes in

tide goes out

Damnit! Compensating for my typical Oxford comma, I left them BOTH out.

*headdesk*

Yay! Me too, Snowwy.

I’m reading the Dark Is Rising books for the first time since I was 7 or 8. Prep for a young adult project I’m working on. You can see the very strong influence on Rowling they had; huge, apocalyptic subject matter handled in a peculiarly British way, cozy and intimate.

Also reading a book on ukulele blues chords.

At least Stepin Fetchit was funny.

I’m reading the Dark Is Rising books for the first time since I was 7 or 8.

That is my favorite series Of All Time. I do that obnoxious gasping and holding the book to my chest thing with those books. Rowling can suck it.

I’m re-reading The Little Friend and I’m just starting Hodgman’s second book. The last two books in the Hunger Games series are probably on my list next, and I’d like to pick up Patton Oswalt’s new book.

Also, Spengler, please tell me that your YA project is not zombie-related. Not that I’ve made much headway on mine.

I kilt it. I am a monster.

I’m reading Fugitive Pieces by Anne Michaels. I recommend it to anyone who is a fan of Michael Ondaatje. It has a very similar style. Also, a collection of essays by Abraham Joshua Heschel, who I would recommend to anyone.

Johannes Cabal the Necromancer.
Random excerpt:

Cabal dimly recalled that the musical genius who’d decided to put on “Necronomicon: The Musical” had got everything he deserved: money, fame, and torn to pieces by an invisible monster.

T&U, I want you to sit on my knee and dimple girlishly.

No, my YA series has nowt to do with zombies. I SAY NO MOAR.

I am reading the Internet. Several yrs. at Borders Books Music Movies + Cafe put me off books.

I’m reading the first chapters of Peter Green’s Alexander to Actium. Vicious, cynical warlords leading armies of untrustworthy cutthroats in an endless sequence of futile, bloody power struggles. Good times, good times.

I still consider “The Stand” to be King’s best novel, but some of his short stories are his best writing. (IMO)

Sure have been a lot of them, huh?

I left out some real doozies too – like Suharto or Rios Montt, who Reagan praised thusly: “President Rios Montt [is] a man of great personal integrity and commitment who wants to improve the quality of life for all Guatemalans, and [is] getting a ‘bum rap’ on human rights.” He’s still a member of Guatemala’s Congress to this day & has never yet been charged with any crime (or so says Wackypedia).

One might argue that the US didn’t technically support Pol Pot – but declaring China’s Most Favored Trading Partner status allowed the Yankee Dollah to prop him up indirectly … & when Vietnam went in & did what the entire rest of the world lacked the basic decency to do, the US condemned Vietnam’s ending of Cambodia’s genocide with extreme economic prejudice.

Rowling can suck it.

The secret of her success?

“President Rios Montt [is] a man of great personal integrity and commitment who wants to improve the quality of life for all Guatemalans, and [is] getting a ‘bum rap’ on human rights.”

Ahhh, Christ.

You know, I get that there are times when we have to work with really nasty people* (propping up Stalin in World War Two being the most egregious example). But it’d be nice if we didn’t have to gush all over what wonderful humanitarians they are like we do every. Single. Time.

* Whether Guatemala is one of those “we had to do it” cases, your mileage may vary, but I say no. Actually, most of the times we ended up in partnership with a guy like Montt, it was avoidable.

T&U, I want you to sit on my knee and dimple girlishly.

Can I tell you what I want for Christmas?

The secret of her success?

It’s certainly not her fucking writing.

Why all the Ruckus?

Representing Justice, Judith Resnick & Dennis Curtis

Subtitled “Invention, Controversy, and Rights in City-States and Democratic Courtrooms”. Resnick & Curtis are Yale Law School professors.

The book blends a study of the iconography of justice in art and symbol, with a corresponding discussion of concepts of justice from antiquity to the present. To give you a sense of the book’s tone and content, here are the first three (of 15) chapter titles:

1 — A Remnant of the Renaissance: The Transnational Iconography of Justice

2 — Civic Space, the Pubic Square, and Good Governance

3 –Obedience: The Judge as the Loyal Servant of the State

My bookmark is at the Preface and this may be a lengthy undertaking:
Representing Justice is a physically large book and a scholarly work, part of the Yale Law Library Series in Legal History and Reference. (Indicators: 220 pages of endnotes, 20 of source/ bibliography.)

Right now, I’m very absorbed with Egypt (and some other irons in the fire), but Representing Justice is at the front of my queue and laying by the bedside.

I still consider “The Stand” to be King’s best novel, but some of his short stories are his best writing. (IMO)

I generally think horror fiction works best as short stories rather than novels. There are exceptions, of course, but I know very few horror writers whose novels can stack up to their shorter works.

Re: Young Adult fiction: I re-read “The Westing Game” by Ellen Raskin a couple years back and was really jazzed by how good it still was.

Someone with the same name as me, but who regrettably is not me, makes the following comment at Balloon Juice;

You know why those motherfuckers keep bitching about their fear of Sharia Law coming to America?

Copyright infringement

As General Patton might have said, no, I didn’t say it, but I wish I had.

Snorg: How do you find Green so far? Where are you at chronologically? Does he cover pre-Alexandrian antiquity? (He may have just gone for a snappy title….)

I re-read “The Westing Game” by Ellen Raskin a couple years back and was really jazzed by how good it still was.

I have never read that, but I keep intending to.

Chris, I was hoping that was you. That’s quite all right, though. You are still, like, trenchant and shit.

Re: Young Adult fiction:

I loved the Madeleine L’Engle books as a child and I hope to be able to return to them someday. Of course, my memory holds her up against C.S. Lewis, Frank Peretti and other overbearingly Christian novelists, so she would have to shine in comparison.

I have a profound admission to make: I have never read a Stephen King novel. I simply do not enjoy horror fiction or horror films. (Therefore, many of the zombie jokes and references at S,N! go right past me.)

Here’s another confession: Rap (or hip-hop or wev) gives me a headache. Only style or form of music I simply cannot stand.

Now you kids get off my lawn right now! No backtalk either!

I have a profound admission to make: I have never read a Stephen King novel.

That’s okay. All I’ve read is The Stand.

Snorg: How do you find Green so far?

Excellent. Knowledgeable and a pleasure to read.

Where are you at chronologically?

First decades after Alexander’s death; the Wars of the Diadochi. Rome won’t be putting in an appearance for a couple hundred pages.

Does he cover pre-Alexandrian antiquity?

Not in this book. I think the Hellenistic Age is pretty much his turf.

I have a profound admission to make: I have never read a Stephen King novel. I simply do not enjoy horror fiction or horror films.

Me too/neither. That crap is just silly.

However, I do like old skool hip-hop, late ’70s NY stuff.

Get off my sidewalk, you punk-ass chumps!

Another day, another piece of the Teaparty’s cardboard idol of Conservative Ronald Reagan shorn off by gales of truth.

I read a lot of King’s short stories in high school, and read The Stand (and The Dead Zone) while attending college in Boulder. Never got around to the Dark Tower series, though.

I’ll agree that his short stories are masterpieces, many better than the (few) novels of his that I’ve read.

Another master of the short story that I admire is Bruce Sterling. Pick up Globalhead or A Good Old-fashioned Future, both collections, for examples of some of his best.

LOL @ Zandar. Apparently Dubya can’t go to Switzerland because of a little problem in his past. Something about war crimes… torturing prisoners and shit.

Oh well. Send Cheney then.

Oh, Lloyd?

Is there something you’d like to share with us?

Also, too, Jennifer knocked it out of the park early, but I noticed one small omission. To wit,

your average Teabagger wouldn’t hove his fat ass out of the Medicare financed Hoveround to support health insurance coverage for his own kids or grandkids down the block.

It just feels right somehow.

I’m going to fuck some people up. IN MY IMAGINATION.

Nothing that’s going to impress anyone here, I reckon: “Full Dark No Stars”. Stephen King.

cut it out. I finished Rise Again the other night, and that was the one I started right after.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD, MANIPULATIVE WITCH!!

..no seriously; it tickles.

Also reading a book on ukulele blues chords.

Young Adult Apocalyptic Blues Ukelele?

Sounds like you could fit right the hell into the Mekons.

But seriously, check out their album “Journey To The end of The Night” for some dark, apocalyptic british folk-punk music. Plus guest vox by Neko Case!

Re: Young Adult fiction:

I was really tickled by The Bromeliad Trilogy.

And finally, on the eve of 666’s 100th birthday: the most corrupt presidential administration in the 20th Century, conviction by conviction, from DailyKos.

I still consider “The Stand” to be King’s best novel, but some of his short stories are his best writing. (IMO)

Confession time: I pretty much like Stephen King’s books. I know, zombie, right?

But maybe that’s part of it. His writing is pretty straightforward, not too much artsy-fartsy literary stuff, just kind of bites right into your brain. Kind of like zombie movies; cheesy, but they always manage a pretty good scare. Well, most times.

I think books are a very difficult medium to really scare people, and he usually manages one or two pretty awful things in his stories.

Having said that (and having my recent fanzomboi comment sucked into the previous post tag horror) I have to say that a couple of times, I read some of Spengler’s book before going to sleep, and then dreamed about it. so to re-iterate, nicely done sir. I give you a round of polite applause, with all my heart.

(Therefore, many of the zombie jokes and references at S,N! go right past me.)

You don’t say? (making notes).

Oh, and I’m currently finishing Fast Food Nation and The Eliminationists.

Appropriately, I am reading the latter while sitting on the toilet.

I also have a half-read copy of Blackwater, but it’s just too depressing to read. Niewert’s is bad enough.

After those three, my next book is going to be Charlie The Happy Unicorn Goes to Candy Mountain. I’m tired of getting pissed off by everything I read…

#

I’m going to fuck some people up. IN MY IMAGINATION.

One would have thought you had gotten that out of your system in your last book.

Charlie The Happy Unicorn Goes to Candy Mountain.

I wouldn’t. ends with mountaintop removal mining.

I know, two and a half days too late, but…

Kirk -> Spock -> Spork

heh. I kilt the thread ANNA LIKE IT THAT WAY!!!

GOP state legislator Bobby Franklin introduces a bill to abolish drivers’ licenses in the state of Georgia…

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/georgia_republican_nobody_should_need_a_drivers_license.php?ref=fpblt

I’m going to fuck some people up. IN MY IMAGINATION.

Recycle, reduce, reuse. Night, all!

Recycle, reduce, reuse.

…ZOMBIE

Here’s another confession: Rap (or hip-hop or wev) gives me a headache. Only style or form of music I simply cannot stand.

Not to cast asparagus, but I always get a little depressed at seeing this sort of comment. Be it about hip-hop or jazz or metal or classical, it strikes me as someone who is voluntarily missing out on a lot of stuff he or she might really dig. Now, I know this is going to sound condescending, but keep in mind that all rap/hip-hop isn’t the same. P.M. Dawn isn’t Snoop Dogg isn’t Black Sheep isn’t Dr. Octagon isn’t Nelly, in other words. Dig around when you’ve got nothing better to do. If you don’t like one strain, try another. You might not like gangsta rap but you might dig alternative stuff, sort of thing. Thanks to the magic of the internets, hell, you don’t even have to pay to test the waters. It’s probably on YouTube.

That all being said, if it’s being played on a Top 40 station, yeah, you can pretty much pass that by.

vs said,

February 6, 2011 at 2:18

There’s jack-shit on tv tonight. I might actually have to do something like–gulp–read. HORRIFYING.

What do you normally do with these threads. Adsorption?

T&U – Rowling could be worse. She could be the twisted bitch who wrote “Lord Of The Rings” starring cats, Tailchaser’s Song.

AFA Reading List – Gotta have Pratchett, although Making Money (open now) isn’t his strongest – gotta go with the Vimes/Guards subset or Death and Susan. Also picked up (based on the title), The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies Of The Apocalypse, the back cover makes it sound promising, I’ll report in a couple weeks on it when I’ve completely forgotten to report on it.

Oh, and my intro to Pratchett, and simply the funniest goddam book ever written, Good Omens.

Read.

Now.

Please.

The Hollow Chocolate Bunnies Of The Apocalypse

Rankin’s become a bit lazy. He has the same literary voice in everything he writes, and an amiable enough voice it is as he meanders through digressions and in-jokes, but he does not give the impression of trying very hard. It is as if he downs a few whiskeys and holds forth in his role of Pub Raconteur to a familiar audience, while taping it for later transcription.
Read the ‘Brentford trilogy’ if the chance arises. They are denser if you know what I mean; less diluted by amusing but disposable waffle.

She could be the twisted bitch who wrote “Lord Of The Rings” starring cats, Tailchaser’s Song.

Wikipedia says that was a bloke.

Vrooooooom!!!

Don’t fall off, you won’t be able to get up!

Good Omens.

Fun times.

A friend recently introduced me to Charlie Huston’s stuff and I’m reading Caught Steeling. Horrifying, but really well done.

Animus,

Cool nym – description/attitude whatszit?

I have no clue who wrote Tailchaser, I just always remember reading an issue of Analog back in the day with a review that just savaged it, kinda stuck with me. Something about nearly fatal cuteness.

What I was saying, and poorly, is that instead of being the twisted bitch who wrote LOTR with teenagers, Harry Potter, JKR could be the twisted etc. etc. Tailchaser’s.

I give Rowling huge credit, though, for writing something tweens and up look forward to reading, anything to get them wanting/reading, so’s they don’t end up like vs, apparently. (preggers and stacked? ummm, at any rate.)

Now if Rowling could do that with fishing, I’d nominate her for a Nobel Pisces Prize.

(really stacked, she showed off. Mr. vs must be beating zombies off with a stick)

Mr. vs must be beating zombies off with a stick

Fucking slo-pitch softballs. How do they work?

So is today the day when murkins celebrate the game with the ball that doesn’t roll? Yay team.

I don’t know about any irregularly shaped balls, but the talking heads on CNN kindly reminded me that today is Porn Sunday

From the Porn Sunday/XXXchurch.com link:
Studies have shown that ninety-nine percent of all masturbation involves lust and mental fantasy…

The other one percent involves accounts receivable transactions.

Spengler: Hey, that’s right! Today is Super Bowl Sunday! I wouldn’t have known otherwise. (No TV, no interest in football, tho I followed it until 1973.) Here’s an indigation of geezer-hood: I was in HS when the first Super Bowl was played.

Pedestrian: I dint know this was also Pr0n Sunday. Now that is a sport I can get behind!

I won’t get out of your head,zombie. All your branes r belong to me.

The best thing about the Super Bowl are the snacks. And the drinking.

I can do that without watching football and dumb commercials, though.

I think there is something living behind my stove. My cat is keeping watch, and I thought I heard something last night. Of course, we could both be crazy.

Puppy Bowl!

Btw, I have promised hubby i will make buffalo wings and chili cheese fries tonight. So if I never return that means I died of a heart attack.

Yum!

I forgot about Puppy Bowl. And the kitty halftime. That’s pretty awesome.

Also for Spengler: I’ve heard nothing but good things about Rise Again. I enjoy your comments about writing on yer blog and found the Stop-in-Midsentence a useful technique. (I’ve given it a test-drive in my own work. I like it so far.)

I have NO idea what turned me off to the horror genre. I generally like genre fiction. I enjoy historical fiction, fantasy, police procedurals, and especially espionage fiction. Also westerns and sci-fi, though I’m not widely read in those. (Never even tried romances, btw.) Perhaps I tried inferior horror books long ago. Or maybe it’s something vaguely analogous to my not liking parmesan cheese. (“Your taste is in your mouth.” said a truck-stop philosopher.”)

I’m seriously tempted to pick up Rise Again and put it into my queue. It might change my whole outlook on the genre. I’ll need to get my head in the right frame to be a good reader, sweep my resistance and long prejudice aside.

But I will never visit NYC!

You’d be amazed how little NYC misses you.

I think there is something living behind my stove.

Until just last week I had an adorable family of mice behind mine, but then I went to the trouble and expense of buying and baiting live traps, mapping out a new location for them, and reorganizing my kitchen so that all but a tablespoon of peanut butter was out of reach. I haven’t heard a thing from them since, natch.

There’s no poop or chewed-on stuff, so I don’t know what the deal is. I should probably move out the stove, but I’m scared. At least I rent and the management company will have to deal with it.

Good Omens

Ok, will find a copy. Recently read Unseen Academicals and Nation, and Feet of Clay before that. Went to a Guardian review book club meeting FUCK ME THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO

There’s no poop or chewed-on stuff, so I don’t know what the deal is.

Just be glad that there’s no chewed-on poop. There’s nothing worse than an infestation of turdbiters and shitchompers.

Heh, a few years ago my housemate and I differed on how to deal with a mouse problem. I began laying traps and mushing putty into steel wool scourers in order to block up the holes, whereas my housemate just wanted to keep all his food in massive plastic boxes.

That was around the times of the Madrid bombings and wingnut calls of ‘Spanish cowards! Appeasement!’

infestation of turdbiters and shitchompers

-glancing at Spengler

Just be glad that there’s no chewed-on poop. There’s nothing worse than an infestation of turdbiters and shitchompers.

They have terrible breath.

Matt: Honestly, I gave rap a chance to work on me over several years, encouraged by my younger sister who enjoys it. As with literary genres, so it is with musical genres.

I’m and ex-radio jock and have sampled a lot of genres over the years. I have found something to appreciate and enjoy in so many: rock, R&B, Mo-town, doo-wop, bluegrass, country-and western, classical, Texas blues, Chicago/KC blues, big bands, (some) jazz, reggae, disco, folk/tradiitional (e.g. American; Irish; bagpipes), torch songs, pop (with a good hook). Not familar with indie, but I’ve heard some I like.

But rap / gangsta / hip-hop completely eludes me. I find it irritating and boring. (It doesn’t help when cars cruise by by house, totally blasting it from the street 30 feet from my front door, with the bass cranked up so loud that my windows vibrate.) Some of the rhymes are clever, I suppose. (I like word play in writing and lyrics!) I’ve heard perhaps four of five rap cuts that are NOT like fingernails on the blackboard.

I honestly tried to give rap a good chance to work some magic. But I’ve done with that. I simply can’t stand it.

Now you young ‘uns get your football and get offa my lawn!

Whew. Been apartment hunting all week. Settled on our choice last evening, a LEED Gold building in the south waterfront. Walkability score is only 70 (the runner up had a 98) but that’s because it’s a new, reclaimed neighborhood that’s still being redeveloped. But there’s a streetcar stop (for which we will get complimentary passes) right in front and on-site zip cars. We’re seriously considering giving up the car, at last – we use it mostly just for hauling Bagoas to the dog park and there’s a doggie day care business in the same building and an off-leash park two blocks away. We will be moving to a much smaller place and I’m actually looking forward to another round of downsizing and simplifying. Our carbon feetprint is going to be teensy.

Yeah, we have been assimilated into the liberal, SOCIALEST, tree-hugger collective. IOW, we have become Portlanders.

I’ve been waiting for a streetcar to compliment me for years and it’s never happened. I suspect it’s my unfashionable shoes.

I think there is something living behind my stove. My cat is keeping watch, and I thought I heard something last night. Of course, we could both be crazy.

T&U: First three sentences for a short story or novel.

Pup: I love pups, and good pooches, and all types of muttskis! What is Bagoas?

OT, but politics: Sarah Palin doesn’t trust the Egyptian people, thinks the US should decide who giverns next.

The Variants, I am the whitest person EVER, but here are some hiphop artists that I quite like.

M.I.A.

K’naan

Common

One of K’naan’s songs was also chosen as the World Cup theme. (I will freely admit that this performance made me cry when I saw it. I may have been drunk, though).

I don’t mean to monopolize the thread. I’ll disappear to Egypt for while. Have fun.

Settled on our choice last evening, a LEED Gold building in the south waterfront. Walkability score is only 70 (the runner up had a 98) but that’s because it’s a new, reclaimed neighborhood that’s still being redeveloped.

GAY.

T&U: Thanx for you effort to broaden my musical horizons. But I ain’t gettin’ outta the boat no more.

“N__B said,
February 6, 2011 at 18:16

I’ve been waiting for a streetcar to compliment me for years and it’s never happened. I suspect it’s my unfashionable shoes.”

And taxis are downright rude to me. I think it’s because of my “Down with taxis” button.

“GAY”

Naw, just Portland.

my “Down with taxis” button.

There’s nothing certain but death and taxis.

<i?the US should decide who giverns next.

Hawt!

(This place is addictive. Got wrench myself back to Egypt!)

I’ve heard perhaps four of five rap cuts that are NOT like fingernails on the blackboard.

I’m with you on that. It’s just not music. It’s posing. Almost all of it.

I can’t account for the difference between my generation (boomer/X) and the youngers (Y/millenials) and why the latter is able to appreciate Hip Hop. I want to say it’s the lack of exposure of good music (70’s metal, acid, 60’s rock and folk, country spanning both decades) and more exposure to crap (pretty much anything Pop since disco died). But then when I form the thought into a sentence, it sounds so subjective.

At least Hip Hop is morphing into something I can tolerate now, with the influence that Vocal Trance is having on it. I delved deeply into House/Trance last decade because I thought it was going to be the next “new wave” (still waiting) and while I only found a few subgenres appealing, it’s at least tolerable.

It might be happening though – tracks like “Like a G6” and even Katy Perry and Madonna’sLady Gaga’s stuff is basically introducing Trance to top 40. We’ll see. I expected it to be an erupting underground movement like punk and new wave, not adopted by the engineered pop stars of the RIAA.

What type of dog is Bagoas? Juvenile delinquent. He was alleged by the shelter to be a miniature schnauzer / black lab mix. Definitely not one of those designer mutts

He’s sooooooo cute.

http://tink.imgur.com/

Oh. Now he goes away. :p

miniature schnauzer / black lab mix

The moment of conception must have been something to see. Was a trapeze involved?

introducing Trance to top 40

Meant to say “introducing Trance vocal styles to to 40” – blarg.

My grandma had a lady dachshund… except she was no lady. If it was canine and had balls, she went into heat right there on the spot.

And she knew how to use the stairs.

Naw, just Portland.

I know. I’m jealous.

Oh, and TYVM, Variants – now I’m reading *every* post as if it’s the start of a novel.

(except for my essays, that is)

OT, but politics: Sarah Palin doesn’t trust the Egyptian people, thinks the US should decide who giverns next.

It’s really funny how the proponents of small government and not-social-engineering-because-that’s-communist think they should be consulted on every decision made by every people in the world.

Hey, Sarah. 99% of other countries polled think the American people made a brain-dead decision by reelecting Bush and yet another one by giving you and the teabaggers even a shred of the prominence you’re getting now. But it’s not their country, so you don’t see them doing the “trust but verify.”

Christ. “Trust but verify?” Who the fuck asked you?

Trance vocal styles to to 40

Crap. I give up.

”
I’m with you on that. It’s just not music. It’s posing. ”

Yikes. I shall remove myself from your lawn posthaste, good sir.

My dog Angus is…tooting. I am glad my nose is stuffy. Hubby is not faring as well.

It’s just not music.

Then what is it? I mean, if it’s not accessible to you and you don’t like it, that’s fine, but I think it’s pretty absurd to dismiss it as non-music out of hand.

I can’t account for the difference between my generation (boomer/X) and the youngers (Y/millenials) and why the latter is able to appreciate Hip Hop. I want to say it’s the lack of exposure of good music (70?s metal, acid, 60?s rock and folk, country spanning both decades) and more exposure to crap (pretty much anything Pop since disco died). But then when I form the thought into a sentence, it sounds so subjective.

It does. Actually, I had this exact same fight with my younger brother (he’s 23), so I’m not sure it’s an age thing, but just a matter of aesthetic perspective.

Look, I don’t care if people do or do not like hiphop. I dislike the vast majority of it. But that doesn’t mean that a) there isn’t good stuff, and b) that it doesn’t have value to people who listen to it.

And Rapper’s Delight came out in 1979, which is squarely within the time period that Gen Xers would be kids.

Like I said. I acknowledge it’s subjective. I’m exploring that subjectivity – mine and my sixteen and seventeen year old nieces’, who love Hip Hop and can recite the lyrics. (Their 22-year old sister listens to country.)

But I don’t hear any music when I hear hip-hop. I hear a beat programmed into a sequencer. I hear someone reciting words. Not singing, but recitation. And 90% of the time they’re either bragging about the size of their dick, usually only figuratively, complaining about the opposite sex, or else challenging another poser or the authorities. And no music. No guitars, keyboards or singing.

I don’t need any coaxing to permit you your enjoyment of it. But I just can’t accept the label ‘music’ for something that doesn’t require any musical ability to execute. None. Some skill with words, some technical skill programing a Roland MC-808 sequencer, some audio engineering skills. But you don’t have to sing or play an instrument.

It really is like nails on a chalkboard to someone who endeavors to display virtuoso ability on at least one instrument, and who tries to actually hit the notes when he sings, and who was raised being exposed to all kinds of music, and I mean ALL kinds — even Tuivan throat singing and Kraftverk — all of which required the development of some skill at performance and/or composition.

It just doesn’t fall into the category of music. The closest thing I can compare it to is Beat Poetry from the 1950’s. Which I can’t stand either. Subjectively. But I will fight for your right to perform and enjoy either. And thanks for the invitation but I’ll pass this time.

And this is what you get when you let second-rate attention whores practice journalism.

BTW, I’m sorry if I’m coming off bitchy, but this is something that really sticks in my craw. Especially given that it often comes from people who listen to music that a lot of older people were like, “Get off my lawn!” about at the time it was released. And in the context that African American-created music has been ripped off by white dudes (*cough* Led Zepplin *cough*) since time fucking immemorial.

(*cough* Led Zepplin *cough*)

I was gonna say Bix Biederbeck.

I was gonna say Bix Biederbeck.

Him, too.

I hear someone reciting words. Not singing, but recitation

They’re complicated “recitations” to a particular rhythm. If you’re good, you understand how the beat impacts what you say and how you say it, and how *what* you say is impacted by it.

Is rhythmic drumming music?

But I just can’t accept the label ‘music’ for something that doesn’t require any musical ability to execute

A LOT of hip hop has instruments. And singing. At the very least, much of it involves re-mixing existing music, and while some people may not view that as a musical ability, I do.

It really is like nails on a chalkboard to someone who endeavors to display virtuoso ability on at least one instrument, and who tries to actually hit the notes when he sings, and who was raised being exposed to all kinds of music, and I mean ALL kinds — even Tuivan throat singing and Kraftverk — all of which required the development of some skill at performance and/or composition.

Then you hate 99% of pop music. Which is fine. So do I. But, just as in any other genre, there is music that is not overproduced, marketed bullshit, so to paint all the music in that genre with a broad brush is, I think, unfair.

Some of the greatest songs ever written have required very little musical ability to execute.

You know who else though they were the whitest person ever?

I’m having a Puppy Bowl party here, with occasional jumps to the football if anyone cares (my circle of friends doesn’t give much of a damn for sports).

I have a ridiculous amount of vegetarian chili cooking (got a kosher-keeping friend) and am trying something called the Great Round Reuben Loaf from the Cookwise cookbook (as it has meat and cheese, it’s trayf, hence being sure there is plenty of chili for my friend if he’s feeling hungry).

BTW, I’m sorry if I’m coming off bitchy

No. Just truculent. 😉

paint all the music in that genre with a broad brush is, I think, unfair.

I’m not doing the painting. You are. You’ve extended my subjective dislike of one genre into an objectified condemnation of 99% of everything.

It’s not my thing. And my tastes run wide, so it’s not just me. Still, I acknowledge that it has merit, for those who appreciate it. I just don’t like the label thats applied to it.

I’m not doing the painting. You are. You’ve extended my subjective dislike of one genre into an objectified condemnation of 99% of everything.

Well, when you say it’s “not music,” and assert that people must like it because they’ve never listened to good music, it’s kind of an objective condemnation.

So, just curious–who are your favorite bands? (I’m not looking for ammo to attack you or anything–I’m genuinely curious).

I’m not doing the painting. You are.

Refusing to apply the label of “music” to an entire genre is using a very broad brush.

This is music.

This too.

This is not

Puppy Bowl!

Bestest thing of the day. I most special loves young pooches. They are so much fun. With each other. With older dogs. With humans.

Is too, but this version’s better.

OTOH, this is.

“the US should decide who giverns next.”

Whatever two or more consenting adults do with potatato based or other dessert products in the privacy of the own home is none of the government’s business. I will givern anyone I damn well please Sarah Palin be damned.

By the way, most furry critters seem to like my wizard’s beard. It’s very soft. Young ones especially. Or small critters. Children of some friends had Russian gerbils (or something). They really enjoyed it!

So’s this.

Is too, but this version’s better.

Just this morning as lay in the dark after waking too early I was wondering what happened with that. I now see they didn’t get it – what a shame.

Slayer do that the fascist way and I like it more.

Is too, but this version’s better.

I did not know about that. Awesome.

Sub, okay, you’re right. That is a good cover.

This is music, too.

Unfuckingfortunately. I’m going to go get a drink to get that Ben Gibbard wanna-be shit out of my brain.

Slayer do that the fascist way and I like it more.

I assure you I have never done a version of that song. But I ripped this song a new asshole.

Naw, just Portland.

Oregon, right? (So I seem to remember.) Or Maine? Both are nifty places and I could imagine you in either.

He’s sooooooo cute.

And he looks intelligent (esp, the largest photo). You can just read it in some dogs. I sorts doubt the Lab. But I’ll bet there’s some sort of terrier in his recent ancestory. The build, the texture of the coat. The eyebrows. Doesn’t seem to have a typical terrier’s muzzle. Scottie?

Mutts are the best. (If I ever get a pet it would be a shelter pooch, or maybe a breed rescue.) Thanx for the photo. Give him extra affection for me. I absolutely love good dogs.

vs, have you ever seen Sad Kermit?

I find the NIN cover to be amusing. And the frame-by-frame recreation of The Royal Tenenbaums.

Clayton Bigsby strikes again!

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/chappelles_show/index.jhtml

I’ve been waiting for a streetcar to compliment me for years and it’s never happened.
Possibly you are not addressing them correctly. They are not ALL called ‘Desiree’.

that Ben Gibbard wanna-be shit

OMG. That got him laid for sure.

Bug: I agree with your 18:33 ! I never really thought about it, but your observation about music exposure makes a lot of sense.

BTW, did you resign your commission?

You know, the decline of smoking has really hurt singing.

OMG. That got him laid for sure.

I know.

Oh, but he’s a Christian, so he would never bang fans outside of marriage.

He’s like Justin Bieber with a fucking synthesizer.

And your 19:02.

. I absolutely love good dogs.

There are no bad dogs, only bad dog owners.

You know, the decline of smoking has really hurt singing.

Yeah, I doubt there’s going to be a new Tom Waits any time soon.

Oh, but he’s a Christian, so he would never bang fans outside of marriage.

Christians are so true to their beliefs.

Holy shit. From today’s Human Events spammail, #37 of 365 Ways to Drive a Liberal Crazy :

Celebrate Terry Gilliam’s dystopian fantasy Brazil as a parable of just how unspeakably horrible things get when the liberals take charge: insane bureaucracy; universal police surveillance; state-sponsored torture; terrorism; a heartless elite; a labyrinthine government machine from which the only possible escape is the solace of insanity. . . And Gilliam had never even heard of Rahm Emanuel when he made it.

I mean …. what … how do they … WTFuckingFucketyFuck?

I mean …. what … how do they … WTFuckingFucketyFuck?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT.

They’re just not too bright, are they?

No. 34 of 365

Global Warming Fun.

Never let a cold day go by without reiterating: “Brrr. Still cold. Makes you think what we could really do with right now is a bit more global warming.”

I mean, I can see how they get there, it’s just deliberate ignorance. But Brazil Because LIBERALS!?

I began laying traps and mushing putty into steel wool scourers in order to block up the holes

Interest. Newsletter? Website?

I think the Brazil idea was probably snagged here:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/177025/22-best-conservative-movies-last-25-years-s-t-karnick

I have a ridiculous amount of vegetarian chili cooking

I just put a huge pot of Packer Jambalaya on to simmer, which we’re taking to a friend’s house for a party. Then, it’s time for sweet, sweet alcohol.

Terry Gilliam is a well-known Reaganite. Oh, wait, that’s Obammy. Gilliam’s a socialest. Maybe we should discuss whether the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers is anti-communist or merely anti- conformist. I CAN’T DECIDE!!!

Why do these people have to classify everything they like as “conservative”? You don’t see me twisting my enjoyment of Die Hard into some sort of fucking political statement. Jesus Christ.

a huge pot of Packer Jambalaya

How the hell did you get a Packer? Man, some zombies have access.

“Terrorist bombings, national-security scares, universal police surveillance, bureaucratic arrogance, a callous elite, perversion of science, and government use of torture evoke the worst aspects of the modern megastate.”

Are you shitting me? This sounds like conservative heaven.

Are you shitting me? This sounds like conservative heaven.
T&U cannot cope with GOOD-FAITH ARGUMENTS.

Slayer are #13 on my list of the greatest liberal bands of all time.

You don’t see me twisting my enjoyment of Die Hard into some sort of fucking political statement.

Now you just hang on a minute, cankles. Die Hard is nothing less than the definitive metaphor for extrinsic monetary policy in a collective economic zone. And it’s nothing more. Don’t you go trying to read some rah-rah cowboy conservative message into it.

YIPPIE KI-YAY, MOTHERFUCKER!!!

Wolverines.

T&U cannot cope with GOOD-FAITH ARGUMENTS.

I thought this was a problem for all liberals?

Indeed. It drives them crazy.

1. I have only one cankle, thank you, and it’s barely even a cankle anymore. My other ankle is quite shapely.

2. I thought it was about how globalization leads to the radicalization of the economically oppressed to the point that they view terrorism as the only option.

Hoff Topic*, I’m designing a T-shirt that has a graphic of rifle crosshairs over a heart and the staunch motto “I’m not afraid of your guns.”

The thing is, in reality I’d be nervous wearing it. Some asshole might take it as a challenge. But it seems like something to have, a little ‘fuck ALL y’all’ to the shootie-luvars.

*VBaywatchR

My other ankle is quite shapely.

Pictures or etc.

How the hell did you get a Packer? Man, some zombies have access.

Just wait for an industrial accident. They’re surprisingly common in those meat-packing plants.

Off-Hoff topic: Don’t listen to these other bitter spindle-shanks and their anti-American discouraging words. T&U, MAKE A BLOG.

My other ankle is quite shapely.

Now there’s a t-shirt slogan” “My other body is in shape”.

Music day today. Here, try this.

How the hell did you get a Packer? Man, some zombies have access.

just be quick at the beginning of the season, when they have to do their roster cuts. One lineman goes a hell of a long way.

Bitter Scribe said,

February 6, 2011 at 21:03 (kill)

oo, better.

T&U, MAKE A BLOG.

I’m working on it!!!

Spengler, I think you should wear that t-shirt. Hell, I’d wear it, and I live in a place with concealed carry laws and gun racks on trucks. And I don’t really wear t-shirts, either.

Maybe I’ll change the rifle crosshairs to surveyor’s marks.

I’m working on it!!!

They’re so complicated.

They’re so complicated.

They are when you make the mistake of using the FYWP publishing platform.

“Terrorist bombings, national-security scares, universal police surveillance, bureaucratic arrogance, a callous elite, perversion of science, and government use of torture evoke the worst aspects of the modern megastate.”

Are you shitting me? This sounds like conservative heaven the record of the G. W. Bush administration.

For you know why.

ESADWP

If you’re good, you understand how the beat impacts what you say and how you say it, and how *what* you say is impacted by it.

Exactly. Rap fails on both counts. (I also note your use of ‘say’ twice. It is, as Bughunter said, recitation, not music. Perhaps ‘shouted recitation’ would be more accurate.

Beat? Rap’s beats are simplistic, with rhythm as varied and subtle as a jackhammer. Instrumental skill? I found some in every style genre I mentioned in the long list. (Forgot to mention punk and new wave. Thanks for reminding me, Bug.) Rap is anemic in comparison with any of them. The only rap cuts I found bearable had some good bass work.

While we’re on the subject of rhythm: I’m a lousy ex-garage band drummer, but I can confidently assert that drumming is indeed music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln6b_nBM-V8

I won’t even get into hand drums.

I rarely post on S,N! with a hard edge. Sorry to be so truculent, but rap sets me off bigtime.

Rap fails on both counts. (I also note your use of ‘say’ twice. It is, as Bughunter said, recitation, not music.

That’s just bullshit. You haven’t listened to it, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Vinnie Colaiuta! Who played in a vid I linked to here the other day, though he was not seen. Synchronicity?

As fro drum playing as music, this or this seal that deal.

You haven’t listened to it,

Fail. See 18:07.

Then, it’s time for sweet, sweet alcohol.

Then–ARCHITECTURE! *jazz hands*

What is Packer Jambalaya, btw? It’s probably sucks compared to Steeler Jambalaya.

Dude, you wouldn’t even *listen* to stuff that I told you might contradict your understanding of hip hop.

This conversation is a little disheartening, really. I thought liberals would be all about music made by (and for, until recently) poor people.

I think it’s possible to simply dislike rap because it’s not genre that resonates with you. But to dismiss it all as crap I think is dangerous. There are several genres of music that don’t do a whole lot for me, but I don’t dismiss them just because of that. I just recognize they’re not for me.

What is Packer Jambalaya, btw?

Cheese. Just cheese.

Fail. See 18:07.

You’re full of shit. You haven’t listened to it. You don’t know what you’re talking about and it’s more than a little rude to tell people that the music they’re listening to isn’t music.

Well…except for smooth jazz.

RAP SUCKS!

I don’t listen to hiphop or rap (are those the same thing?) either, just never was able to get into it. I eschew critiquing things of which I am barely aware. What’s more, why bother? I don’t have to listen to it so BFD.

Even if it didn’t appeal to them aesthetically, I should say.

Cheese. Just cheese.

rofl. Hey, hubby would probably dig that. He’s in the “May I have cheese on my cheese?” club.

It’s fine if you hate it, but trying to define it out of music is just idiotic.

T&U, MAKE A BLOG.

Do it!

(We’re still friends, I hope?)

Well…except for smooth jazz.

*shudder* Even then, I’d call it music.

It’s like when people say “That’s not ART!” about, um, ART. You may not see it that way, but you have a different set of experiences, expectations, etc. Your particular aesthetic viewpoint doesn’t invalidate it.

There is also, if you’re any kind of fan of music at all, an exception in any hated genre.

What is Packer Jambalaya, btw?

made with green and yellow peppers, and polish sausage in lieu of andouille.

Do it!

(We’re still friends, I hope?)

Thanks.

Yes, it’s fine. This particular debate frustrates the fuck out of me, for a variety of reasons that are probably too in-depth to get into here.

It’s like when people say “That’s not ART!” about, um, ART. You may not see it that way, but you have a different set of experiences, expectations, etc. Your particular aesthetic viewpoint doesn’t invalidate it.

Well, exactly. And I think “art” is even more nebulous than music, because I think art can be anything that happens to make your heart sing or just makes you think. It doesn’t necessarily have to be something you want to hang over your sofa.

Hey, hubby would probably dig that. He’s in the “May I have cheese on my cheese?” club.

I’d eat the fuck out of it.

made with green and yellow peppers, and polish sausage in lieu of andouille.

Um, YUM.

I am not a huge fan of hip hop or rap, but I have some in my collection. There is certainly some I like, and I wouldn’t say even the simplest, most rudimentary electronic beatbox style isn’t music.

After all, I even like the early Mekons, when they actually refused to even learn their instruments. Some of it was just shouting recitation over drums (or, as credited on the first album, ‘rhythm sculptures’).

It’s fine if you hate it, but trying to define it out of music is just idiotic.

That was Bughunter. Are you paying attention?

What I advocate about any aesthetic is the Truck Stop philosophy: “Your taste is in your mouth.”

And this convo is leaving a bad taste in mine. I’m bailing. You get the last word. Fair enough?

Um, YUM.

you don’t know the half of it. The house smells WONDERFUL. Balancing spices now.

I am not a huge fan of hip hop or rap, but I have some in my collection.

Do tell.

That was Bughunter. Are you paying attention?

I recommend you read what you write.

It’s like when people say “That’s not ART!” about, um, ART.

very similar threads over at Shakesville regarding a Penny Arcade cartoon.

you don’t know the half of it. The house smells WONDERFUL. Balancing spices now.

OK, who does the cooking in your house? You or Mrs. Zombie? Or do you share KP duty?

It doesn’t necessarily have to be something you want to hang over your sofa.

Flax Art used to have a t-shirt that said “ART doesn’t match your sofa”

Well…except for smooth jazz.

Now there is a misnomer.

polish sausage

notveryVMR

Flax Art used to have a t-shirt that said “ART doesn’t match your sofa”

I LOVE their stuff. I wish they had an online shopping site.

OK, who does the cooking in your house? You or Mrs. Zombie? Or do you share KP duty?

mostly share. During the week, we usually all kind of catch on the fly, because a lot of things happening. Wife Sublime tends toward more standard fare, I tend to want to experiment, with predictable results.

very similar threads over at Shakesville regarding a Penny Arcade cartoon.

I’ll check it out.

And along the lines of what vs was saying, I think that part of the problem in those types of discussions is that we tend to have this idea of Art–it’s something that’s somehow sacred or not commercial, or…I don’t know. It’s like, there’s literature, and then there’s shit you read, and it spans a variety of genres and quality levels. I’d rather look at art that way, too.

Some art sucks, too. Doesn’t make it not-art.

I’ll check it out.

wear galoshes.

And along the lines of what vs was saying, I think that part of the problem in those types of discussions is that we tend to have this idea of Art–it’s something that’s somehow sacred or not commercial, or…I don’t know. It’s like, there’s literature, and then there’s shit you read, and it spans a variety of genres and quality levels. I’d rather look at art that way, too.

YES. And the same goes for music.

I tend to want to experiment, with predictable results.

I find that when I try a new recipe there’s about a 60/40 failure/success rate.

BEST RAP VIDEO EVAR

How the hell did you get a Packer? Man, some zombies have access.

Just wait for an industrial accident. They’re surprisingly common in those meat-packing plants.

Zombies are all about the shambles.

Reading: Doctor Faustus.

OK, where is the cartoon in question? I found the thread discussing it, just not the cartoon.

Yikes.

Rundown: http://debacle.tumblr.com/post/3041940865/the-pratfall-of-penny-arcade-a-timeline

YES. And the same goes for music.

Exactly. And I will admit to being very picky in my tastes, but I’ve also had different experiences than other people, and have different expectations for the art/music/books that I bring into my life.

Ohhhh, I’d been aware of this Penny Arcade shit up until the last week or so.

A BETTER RAP SONG.

I mean …. what … how do they … WTFuckingFucketyFuck?

Projection so intense it’s amazing they haven’t etched graffiti on the moon.

I’ve only attended classical concerts for the last ten years or so, and classical is practically all I listen to. Even so, I get annoyed with the surprisingly high number of classical music fans who think all other music is shit.

I’m with Pupienus: Unless someone is tying you down and forcing you to listen to it, leave it alone.

Amendment to above: If you think a given music genre is shit, that’s your business. If you proclaim it loudly without being asked, you’re obnoxious.

Exactly. And I will admit to being very picky in my tastes

I think everyone who takes music seriously–even if their tastes are far-flung like mine–are picky. (Also, I know when you say that you’re not being like “oh, my taste is better than yours.”)

I think everyone who takes music seriously–even if their tastes are far-flung like mine–are picky. (Also, I know when you say that you’re not being like “oh, my taste is better than yours.”)

Yeah, I was actually trying to get at the fact that I think my musical taste is pretty narrow, which I actually find regrettable to some degree, but I also can’t make myself like stuff I don’t like.

Fortunately Creed is not a genre.

I also can’t make myself like stuff I don’t like.

And I don’t think you should try to. If music isn’t making your heart sing, it’s not worth it.

Fortunately Creed is not a genre.

Anti-Creedite!!!

Fortunately Creed is not a genre.

Please note that the zombie did not bring up this band. We do have SOME redeeming qualities.

So who else has been injecting rubbing alcohol into their eyeballs in preparation for the Big Game?

So who else has been injecting rubbing alcohol into their eyeballs in preparation for the Big Game?

I think that may be just you. I may do some stretches.

What game?

Rubbing my eyes after all this videogaming. WHICH WILL CONTINUE!

Football may be many things, but it is not a sport.

It’s fine if you hate it, but trying to define it out of music is just idiotic.

That was Bughunter. Are you paying attention?

Thank you for generalizing my expression. I expressed “I don’t think it’s music,” perhaps twice, and declared it a subjective opinion at least five times, before and after stating the opinion.

It’s *you* who are translating my opinion, clearly and repeatedly admitted as subjective only, into an attempt to objectively define the genre out of music.

But I understand. We’re all too used to arguing with conservatives who cannot divorce their subjective reality with the objective one…

I still think it’s like nails on a chalkboard. And that’s a visceral response I can’t train out. But I still pay for my son to go to hip-hop dance classes twice a week.

Hey, hubby stuck his head in the office to ask if the losing team from Puppy Bowl will be euthanized. NOT FUNNEH!

Some art sucks, too. Doesn’t make it not-art.

OK. Touche. That’s probably what my right brain was trying to tell me every time I formally stated my opinion of Rap.

With that, zombie, I am forced to re-evaluate my opinion.

Sometimes after a sporting event you just don’t need the cute lil’ things.

Always fun to watch SubMcG deliver a Righteous beat down.

Reading; just finished ‘The Thousand Autumns of Jakob de Zoet’ by the always interesting David Mitchell. He keeps getting better.

YES.

Now that’s music.

YES.

Now that’s music.

Steve Howe just LOOKS like a zombie.

Wow, this thread just got fucking REAL.

Unless someone is tying you down and forcing you to listen to it,

Memo to self: DISABLE WEBCAM.

I should have done it this way:

Some art sucks, too.

Well, I guess since Sub opened the floodgates of Horrible Things

I’d like to make some sweeping generalizations about smooth jazz and country, but I’m scared I’ll have to backtrack slightly.

Why is it that I can say something eight different ways and not convince someone, but somebody else comes along and writes one sentence and they get it? Perhaps I need to work on my wordiness. Or my vagina.

Some art sucks, too.

Crap. Now I have NO idea what to get you for Christmas.

And I suppose Substance won’t like the Creed box set I was gonna send him.

SCREW YOU BOTH.

[TRIGGER WARNING]
Are we talking about rap culture or rape culture?

T&U, the problem is you’re inarticulate, not very bright, and you don’t try.

WITH ARMS WIDE OPEN

Unstoppable Object meets Slight Giving-Of-Way. WHAT WILL HAPPEN?

And I suppose Substance won’t like the Creed box set I was gonna send him.

Its resale value is suspect.

Either everybody is writing rebuttals to something said earlier, or I cleared the room by pointing out you’re all a bunch of feckless assknots.

T&U, the problem is you’re inarticulate, not very bright, and you don’t try.

Good thing I’m pretty.

Something I’ve always wanted to say about T&U and Spaghetti Lee is that I was not 1/4 as engaged and worldly and confident and articulate when I was their respective ages. It makes me sad, but also happy because I know good people are coming up to–I hope–affect change and keep fighting the good fight.

(Sorry for talking about you like you’re not here, T&U.)

Either everybody is writing rebuttals to something said earlier, or I cleared the room by pointing out you’re all a bunch of feckless assknots.

Actually, I’m pretty sure it’s your B.O.

Plus yer ugly and yer muther dresses ya funny.

WITH ARMS WIDE OPEN

Wow. I wonder if that’s ever gotten him any nookie.

Wait, VS, the stench of carrion wafting from my interstices is all well and good, but how old is T&U? How old are you?

Please send recent photos. Full body and face.

Zombie Rotten Mcdonald and the Feckless Assknots are playing next Friday.

Steve Howe just LOOKS like a zombie.

True dat. I saw him with YES in concert last summer, and was shocked.

And Oliver Wakeman’s performance at the keyboards was disappointing. Chris Benoit did a great job on vocals but Rick Wakeman’s talent is hard to live up to. I fear YES is a thing if the past.

Frampton’s set, though, was awesome. Would see again. And he looks fantastic for a rocker in his 60’s.

Reading: Doctor Faustus.
Waiting for the movie.

Thanks, vs!

Don’t forget Chris. His depth of knowledge shames me. And both of those dudes are substantially younger than I am.

FYSD I am NOT feckless. I’ve a fine flagon full of feck right here.

Yeah, Chris is pretty damn impressive. Wouldn’t mind it if he played once in awhile. Although I appreciate that not everyone is mentally 12 like I am.

I’m as old as the hills, myself.

Did Snidely, yclept also Variants, depart this thread? I CALL FAKE GARY!!!

WITH ARMS WIDE OPEN

That’s not his arms.

Fabulous fleck.

Zombie Rotten Mcdonald and the Feckless Assknots are playing next Friday.

We still need a banjolele player though.

We still need a banjolele player though.

I volunteer to sing. Or be a roadie.

Now that’s music.

I hope football lovin’ Yes fans have seen Buffalo ’66.

Vincent Gallo gives me the creeps.

I heard somewhere he’s a Republican.

Why is it that I can say something eight different ways and not convince someone[…]?

Because it’s not how you were saying it, but that you were debating something I didn’t say. I tried twice to restate it in a way that got thru, but you continued to react as if I was trying to tell other people what to think.

But then, I must assume that you’ve chosen the handle “Truculent & Unreliable” for a reason. (Or was it bestowed?)

[hugs] It was fun. Far better than spending the day getting drunk on Bud Light while consuming far too much junk food and subjecting oneself to an entire day of corporate propaganda.

(I’ve got a five pound pot roast in a 275°F oven that’s gonna spend all day turning its collagen into gelatin. That, and some Guinness and I’m set.)

Actually I’m feckled, only I’m wearing concealer.

Country blues can be pretty great.

Gallo’s an insane asshole and he was creepy in the film. It’s good.

He has kind of a big cock. That’s as much as I’ll say for Mr. Gallo. Chloe Sevigny revealed this to me.
(sadly, SFW)

Also, zombie… I don’t know if you saw this or not, but AHEM.

Crap. I just realized I gotta pay bills, too. My afternoon just went sour.

BBL

TO-AST
This is Drew Droege, a friend of mine. I heart trannies.

This thread is appallingly short on POOP and profanity. And what does a guy have to do to get some PENIS around here?

The banjolele has a little sister now. I call it “a ukulele,” because that’s what it is. It has a GIG BAG. So I can now go to gigs.

I have been making–and pronouncing–toast ALL WRONG!!!! *sobs*

DO NOT, in an attempt to find an amusing image that appears vulgar but really is just something silly, turn off safe search and google “shit penis.”

And what does a guy have to do to get some PENIS around here?

I dunno. I think it’s kind of a sausage-fest around here this afternoon. Mmmmmmm, jambalaya!!

That almost makes me want to learn who Chloe Sevigny is.

FFFFFFFYWP

[cutting myself until the screaming inside my head stops]

Dude. That’s what Safe Search is for. So you see shitpenis.

don’t. Fuck.

I find it interesting, those slightly different results arise when the terms are enclosed in quotation marks.

He has kind of a big cock.

Yeah, I’ve heard that. I’ve never seen Brown Bunny, so I don’t know if it’s apparent in that or not.

^that arise

^search terms

but you continued to react as if I was trying to tell other people what to think.

Nah, I know you weren’t. I was just offended by the dismissal of rap as a form of music, even if it was an opinion. You’re completely entitled to it, but it kinda makes me see red.

Anyway, cheers! Have fun paying bills.

I fear YES is a thing if the past.

They were in 1972, f’r cryin’out loud!

Also, I hate music.

And to hell w/ Reagan. Bob Marley would have been 66 today, if the CIA hadn’t killed him.

They were in 1972, f’r cryin’out loud!

‘Twas a very good year.

Is Mr. Zombie gone? How does one have an Ignoring the Superbowl party without a zombie shambling around?

Wait.

Sarah Palin is trying to trademark her name???

That run of Sarah Palin fleshlights was gonna be a killer!

How is rich Lowry gonna masturbate now?

Sarah Palin fleshlights
too soon.

Better than a Real Doll, which was what I was thinking of.

She is clearly the stupidest person ever to rise to national prominence. She makes Glenn Beck look like Turing.

Also, I just chipped the veneer on my coffee table. Fuck.

Omg, did you ever see that BBC documentary?

About Real Dolls? Or about Turing?

Unpretty link: http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/292/love-me-love-my-doll.jsp

Apparently there’s a second part but I don’t know if I’ve got the stomach for it.

Mouse presence confirmed. There is poo present. Also, a gigantic fucking hole in the wall for the outlet for the stove to plug into. I HATE THIS APARTMENT.

vs, that shit’s creepy. I think I’ll pass.

“That run of Sarah Palin fleshlights was gonna be a killer!”

Substance apparently did not google image search “shit penis” with the quotation marks. Or maybe he did.

Hewing back toward the general vicinity of the topic, I give you

http://www.thegaymanifesto.com/2011/02/06/christian-arsonist-destroys-gay-couples-home-in-north-carolina/

He can show the masses what they know not through flows of hot molasses.

Omg, did you ever see that BBC documentary?

There was NO NEED for a remake of “The Stepford Wives”.

ukulele,” because that’s what it is. It has a GIG BAG

Hey! My mando has one of those!

Off to watch a Major Sporting Event now, apparently my Local Sporting Franchise is appearing.

a gigantic fucking hole in the wall for the outlet

Ah, yes. The electrician’s favorite tool for installing j-boxes. A hammer. I have seen this many times.

AWWW LOOK AT THE PUPPIES!

Suck on that you antipodeans, YOU DON’T HAVE PUPPY TV.

You don’t, do you?

T&U, MAKE A BLOG.

I’m working on it!!!

You probably need some more roughage.

Ironically, I’ve spent all day making jambalaya and listening to hip-hop. And getting paid for it, so not bad.

Righton, Matt

#

Country blues can be pretty great.

I love tigris

Also, turns out Bristol Palin also wants a trademark on her name, for “motivational speaking services in the field of life choices.”

Not sure there’s much of a market for the “stick to blowjobs” speech, but who am I to say?

quite late to this party…just got back from spending the weekend in paradise…trying to ignore big game…

and, yeah…lloyd? inflammatory, much?!

just got back from spending the weekend in paradise

The rest of the week will be spent in purgatory, having your skin ripped off to make you a better christian?

Suck on that you antipodeans, YOU DON’T HAVE PUPPY TV.

You don’t, do you?

No, we don’t have puppy TV. We have puppies. And neighbours with puppies.

Not sure there’s much of a market for the “stick to blowjobs” speech, but who am I to say?

Options, is how. “Oral, anal or manual: What’s best for keeping Jesus & your boyfriend happy!”

The rest of the week will be spent in purgatory, having your skin ripped off to make you a better christian?

oh good dog, no! the rest of the week will be spent withdrawing from jack daniels and re-introducing my lungs to oxygen…

Would Jesus dump you? Would Jesus dump you?

Also, turns out Bristol Palin also wants a trademark on her name, for “motivational speaking services in the field of life choices.”

don’t most people trademark things they are good at?

oh good dog, no! the rest of the week will be spent withdrawing from jack daniels and re-introducing my lungs to oxygen…

and learning about tags…

learning about tags

You see, sometimes when a category loves an index marker very much…

“motivational speaking services in the field of life choices.”

If you can’t, teach, as they say.

So I’m thinking about making a parsnip/potato mashup. Any other suggestions for using these tasties?

I was also considering roasting them with some carrots and then making some kind of apple cider glaze perhaps.

Oh yeah, poop and all that.

☰☱☲ ☳☴☵ ☶☷☴

Hmm, gonna have to get a JanusNode I Ching going.

Any other suggestions for using these tasties?

Ice cream.

You guys and your fabulous cooking skills. New rule: Fed Ex samples to me, or it didn’t happen.

In Soviet Russia, blowjobs stick to you!

I forgitted to mention earlier how pedestrian proved conclusively that evidence has a liberal bias. Yes he did.

My professional* opinion of what’s on the toob just now: if it’s music it ain’t very good.

*Yes, yes I am.

Why thankee, Pup. Did I ever tell you what a handsome man you are?

The Black Eyed Peas, on the other hand, are not making a good case for hip-hop.

You see, sometimes when a category loves an index marker very much…

my ensuing snort actually caused teh hubby to take his eyes off of fergie for a moment…

My professional* opinion of what’s on the toob just now: if it’s music it ain’t very good.

Fergie’s impersonation of Axel Rose was quite good, except that she sings in a lower key.

my ensuing snort actually caused teh hubby to take his eyes off of fergie for a moment…

well that and her appallingly bad axl rose imitation…

HA!

Are you all saying I missed a really absurd halftime show? Because those are the BEST.

HA!

IKR!

Are you all saying I missed a really absurd halftime show? Because those are the BEST.

yes…’where’s the love, brutha!’

but at least fergie didn’t pee her pants…

I think I understand Fergie better: if I had to not only listen to that, but sing it as well, I’d probably give meth some serious thought.

“Are you all saying I missed a really absurd halftime show?”

If you think dancing in glow-in-the-dark suits to The Black Eyed Peas is absurd. Snob!

but at least fergie didn’t pee her pants…

That would’ve been SO much better than Janet Jackson’s nip slip…

once again, i think it was a half time show that caused our greatest generation to look at each other blankly and say ‘what the fuck?’

That would’ve been SO much better than Janet Jackson’s nip slip…

true dat…

i think it was a half time show that caused our greatest generation to look at each other blankly and say ‘what the fuck?’

Zombie Glenn Miller refused to wear the spacesuit.

at least fergie didn’t pee her pants…

Confession time: until about a year ago, I heard people talking about this Fergie woman and I just assumed they meant the princess. With each person who had a thing for 50ish redheads it became less tenable, but I thought that maybe it was the money and power.

I forgot how much I grew to hate “Let’s Get This Started” after it was played every two mins. during the NBA playoffs several yrs. ago.

But now that I remember, I have my hate to feed me.

Was she worse than her MC appearance on Dick Clark’s Rockin’ New Year’s Eve?

Cuz that was pretty bad. (The whole thing, but she was notably so.)

I guess I’ll find out; we’re still on the 1st quarter. DVR’s rule. (GB just scored on an interception thrown from the Steelers’ own goal line.)

Confession time: it was roughly two years from when Fergie first registered in my consciousness until I realized she was a singer.

To be fair, both Fergies are pretty awful.

we’re still on the 1st quarter.

SPOILER WARNING: DON’T ANYONE MENTION THE BLEACHER COLLAPSE!

Don’t tell him zombie Elvis joins ‘Peas on stage!!

zombie Elvis
Back down to his “Morte Las Vegas” weight.

I just assumed they meant the princess.

me too…but then my 12 year old niece showed me what’s what…

and i realized after typing that line, that i prolly shouldn’t have…

SPOILER WARNING: DON’T ANYONE MENTION THE BLEACHER COLLAPSE!

Alright… the terrorists fly their hijacked dirigible into the… Bank of America Plaza?

You must not be catholic.

You must not be catholic.

and now realize the last one also came out wrong…FYWP for NOT telling me i’m posting too fast!

Doug Giles:

Followers of the Religion of Peace are currently going nuts in Egypt, aren’t they? Isn’t it weird that when Muslims start burning crap down that the Blame Stream Media (BSM) calls them “revolutionaries, lovers of freedom, peace, kitty cats and cotton candy,” and an “oppressed people” who “yearn for democracy”?

Really? They hanker for “democracy and freedom,” do they? All of them? Is that why they’re destroying their cities, cutting the heads off mummies, tossing Molotov cocktails at each other, breaking into Ramses’ tomb and riding high-speed camels through stick wielding mobs while screaming in tongues?

What’s interesting to me is listening to the Left explain this Muslim mayhem, murder and demolition. The lovelies on the Left find this revolt understandable and thus celebrate it because they have abracadabra’ed all those involved in Mubarak’s overthrow into liberty lovers—and thus this ferocious unrest is legit.

I also hear that not all Americans wanted independence.

Puppies are boring too.

I am interested in bbkf elaborating on EVERYTHING.

Sparkleponies dance to the tunes of Yanni! But then the unicorns come out onto the field and there is a horrible bloody battle. The pegusi win.

I also hear that not all Americans wanted independence.

True, but a lot of the royalists ended up in Ontario.

Aww jeez. Thanks to VS and T&U for the compliments way upthread.

Pirates of the Caribbean 4 – an unneeded sequel to a shitty franchise – will have Penelope Cruz and Ian McShane. Can I buy tickets yet?

Aww jeez. Thanks to VS and T&U for the compliments way upthread.

add a third adoring female to this list…

True, but a lot of the royalists ended up in Ontario.
Then burned down their own country with their wanton lust for blood.

Ian McShane

OMG!!! ian AND johnny on the SAME screen…i am swooning already…

sigh. I should just give up on embedding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Canada_Rebellion

True, but a lot of the royalists ended up in Ontario.

Wikischmedia claims under a fifth.

Those Pirates movies bored the shit out of me. Only thing remotely interesting about them was jonny Depp’s moulds eyes. Also, kiera Knightly is really lovely I guess.

Then burned down their own country with their wanton lust for blood.

We should probably lay off. This is, after all, D-KW’s mother we’re talking about.

I am interested in bbkf elaborating on EVERYTHING.

perhaps i can interest you in my newsletter and/or website?

Fuck you iPhone. KOHLED eyes.

under a fifth

Ten percent’s not nothing.

KOHLED eyes.

yeah…i was wondering what you meant by that…and nope, that wasn’t what i came up with…

What’s interesting to me is listening to the Left

I suppose he somehow missed the fact that half his buddies on the right are cheering wildly for the Egyptian freedom-people, and taking Obama to task for not doing more to support them.

And I love how the righties manage to talk day and night about how they’re poor and oppressed despite living in a country that allows them to practice their religion, speak their mind, assemble with like-minded people, petition their government and vote, but when people on the other side of the world are denied every one of those rights and object to that, suddenly they’re all terrorists.

Must be hard to be you, Doug. Why don’t you trade your place for an Egyptian’s? Being one of the eebil puppetmasters controlling America and the world from their mosques of doom can’t be that bad.

Ten percent’s not nothing.

Well, a lotter, the lottest portion, stayed.

I have no idea what “moulds eyes” would be…

Helmutted eyes.

the lottest portion, stayed

True. But why should I care: the primordial __Bs were serfs under the Tsar in that era.

Fuck you iPhone. KOHLED eyes.

http://damnyouautocorrect.com/

But why should I care: the primordial __Bs were serfs under the Tsar in that era.

The primordial McGravitases were partially that. Read somewhere recently about the Tsarist government trying like crazy to stem the flow of emigrants because they were losing their peasantry.

OK, T&U. I had had totally forgotten about this.

I bought that album.

And this one.

But rap/hiphop was different then.

I figured the McGravitases would hail from Scotland.

Why does he care if Egyptians cut off mummies’ heads? They’re already dead.

pedestrian, that link is not going to help my intratubes-related ADD any.

I have no idea what “moulds eyes” would be…

What Bette Davis’s are now?

they were losing their peasantry.

Neal Stephenson is a problematic author whose work I like a great deal. An example of why is in the novel Quicksilver: Half-Cock Jack witnesses the end of the Turkish siege of Vienna, which hinged on the arrival of the Polish knights (aka the tank corps). He looks at the knights in their shining armor and sitting on huge horses, also armored, and thinks to himself how horribly beaten down the peasantry of Poland must be to support such a glorious nobility.

bughunter, I knew you weren’t so bad! 😉

But rap/hiphop was different then

There is stuff out there now that is just as good. Trust.

I can understand you not wanting to dig for it, but it does exist.

I read Dead Souls a while ago, and while I wouldn’t say it’s sympathetic to anybody at all, it seemed to contain a hell of a lot of how Russia worked outside its major cities.

If you need a quick laugh, pedestrian’s link has already got me crying laughing.

The CPAC schedule is out! Victoria Jackson & the BigDawg Music Mafia! Woot! Woot!
http://www.bigdawgmusicmafia.com/

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/where-are-jobs-not-cpac-schedule
* 12:00 Getting Started In Hollywood – Room 8216
Sponsored by: Bank of Kev Productions (2 hours)
* 7:00 Liberty Fest (Music & Comedy) – Virginia Ballroom
Sponsored by BigDawg Music Mafia (2 hours)
Featuring: Victoria Jackson, Lisa Mei, Chris Cassone, Sherry Marquelle, Norm Cady,
Bobby Powers & Party Time, Robert Mansfield, Hi Caliber, Eric Golub, &
Brian Futch
* 12:15 Engaging America through Conservative Pop Culture – Marshall Ballroom
Stephen Baldwin, Actor CONFIRMED
Kevin McCullough, Xtreme Media CONFIRMED
Stephen Kruiser, Pajamas Media CONFIRMED
Jason Mattera, Human Events CONFIRMED
Moderator: Lisa Norton, Big Dawg Music Mafia CONFIRMED
* 2:00 NRA University – Virginia Ballroom
Sponsored by The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action (1.5 hours)
* 3:00 The Ground Zero Mosque: The Second Wave of the 9/11 Attacks – Maryland Ballroom
Sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (1.5 hours)
Speakers: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, 9/11 Family Members, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and
Daisy Khan (invited), plus a special screening of a trailer for the new AFDI documentary, The Ground Zero Mosque: The Second Wave of the 9/11
*
* 9:00 Lawlessness, Racialism and Terror at Obama’s Department of Justice – Marshall Ballroom
Hans von Spakovsky, The Heritage Foundation CONFIRMED
Andrew McCarthy, National Review CONFIRMED
Christian Adams, Election Lawyer CONFIRMED
Moderator: Quin Hillyer, The Washington Times CONFIRMED
*
* 12:15 The Sharia Challenge in the West – Marshall Ballroom
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, author of Infidel and Nomad CONFIRMED
Hon. Jim Woolsey, former CIA Director CONFIRMED
Andrew McCarthy, National Review CONFIRMED
Moderator: Cliff May, Foundation for Defense of Democracies CONFIRMED

The Ground Zero Mosque: The Second Wave of the 9/11 Attacks – Maryland Ballroom Sponsored by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (1.5 hours)
Speakers: Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, 9/11 Family Members, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and Daisy Khan (invited), plus a special screening of a trailer for the new AFDI documentary, The Ground Zero Mosque: The Second Wave of the 9/11

It would be wrong of me to hope for a fire to block the emergency exits, yes?

But why should I care: the primordial __Bs were serfs under the Tsar in that era.

At that historical moment my ancestors were serfing for the rye and iron set in Prussia, backwoods white trash criminals in Maryland, plantation slaves in South Carolina, and upstanding citizens of the Cherokee Nation. Lots of surprises ahead, all around.

pedestrian, that link is not going to help my intratubes-related ADD any.

Please don’t return the favor, my grades are suffering as it is.

“Stephen Baldwin, Actor CONFIRMED”

How exciting!

Much more on the menu if you follow the PDF link. Michelle Bachmann opening!

http://www.conservative.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/SCHEDULE-OF-EVENTS-MASTER-2-2-11-WEB2.pdf

N_B – shush.

I’m only one chapter into King of the Vagabonds.

“f and Daisy Khan (invited)”

Don’t go, Daisy! It’s a trap!

Pedestrian – nice mix. I have to settle for the unconfirmed* rumors of Tartars in my family tree.

*I suppose the shape of so many __B faces doesn’t count as confirmation.

It would be wrong of me to hope for a fire to block the emergency exits, yes?

SEE! BOTH SIDES DO IT!!!!

1:00 2011 Woman of the Year Luncheon – Virginia Ballroom
Sponsored by the Clare Boothe Luce Policy Institute (2 hours)
Speaker: Michelle Duggar from TLC’s “19 Kids and Counting”
Lunch served
Open to pre-registered female students only

I’m only one chapter into King of the Vagabonds.

While NS plays with history, he didn’t change outcome of the siege of Vienna. So no spoiler…

Oh yeah…M. Bouffant is gonna sneak in.

Open to pre-registered female students only

Oh, yeah, Bouffant’s dressing up like a schoolgirl and infiltrating that shit.

Dammit!

“19 Kids and Counting”

They’ll stop at 20 because she can’t count higher. Hubby can get to 21…

Oh, this is a winner:

12:00 Conservative Inclusion – A Roundtable Discussion – Johnson Room
Sponsored by the Conservative Inclusion Coalition (1 hour)
Mario Lopez, Hispanic Leadership Fund; Dino Teppera, Indian American Conservative Council;
Michael Steele, former RNC Chairman; Colleen Holmes, Eagle Forum; Manny Rosales;
Moderator: Suhail Khan, Conservative Inclusion Coalition
Open to all CPAC attendees

“19 Kids and Counting”
Lunch served”

As repulsive as I find the Duggars, I don’t want to eat their kids.

It would be wrong of me to hope for a fire to block the emergency exits, yes?

Are you asking in my general direction if anyone’ll rid you of those troublesome priests?

Mario Lopez is a conservative???

Open to all CPAC attendees

Sure it is, as long as all the people you just listed are sitting in the back, and stand if it gets too crowded.

Did I say that out loud?

I wonder what the food’s like…

Are you asking in my general direction if anyone’ll rid you of those troublesome priests?

As I will be detailing in my blog in about six weeks, we’re coming up on the 100th anniversary of the Triangle Fire. It’s always possible that the gods of egress paths may take notice.

Mario Lopez is a conservative???

I KNOW, right? I have a hard time believing that anyone I’ve enjoyed seeing naked could be a Republican.

Ok, who cooked what?

We did buffalo wings – roasted, not fried – deviled eggs, queso fundido, and assorted crudites with blue cheese dressing.

What did you all eat?

I interpreted queso fundido as “found cheese” but I was wrong:

fundido -da adjetivo
1. ‹metal/rock› molten
2. worn out, dead beat (colloq)
3. broke (colloq)

Don’t be bringing your broke, deadbeat cheese into my house!

I had Rice Chex. With organic, local milk!

The rice is on, and when it’s done, we’re having Pot Roast with Carrots and Potatoes. And a nice Cab.

It’s a 5lb roast, so I’ll be eating slow-cooked chuck all week for lunch. :d

Ok, last thing about this, I swear…pedestrian, I had to force myself to stop reading that site. I was literally laughing so hard I was crying.

vs, the first time I read it, I was at work. I had to stop because I was getting the church giggles hardcore.

Thanks to the ladies at 3:43 for saving me an AHEM! to that Russo-Scot dude.

I’ll let you know when the pictures get back from the drugstore.

It felt like the first time I read Cake Wrecks. Ah, good times…

“Thanks to the ladies at 3:43 for saving me an AHEM! to that Russo-Scot dude.

I’ll let you know when the pictures get back from the drugstore.”

Unless you’re in sexy boots, not interested.

9:00 Lawlessness, Racialism and Terror at Obama’s Department of Justice

Don’t Tease the Black Panther!

I’ve only attended classical concerts for the last ten years or so, and classical is practically all I listen to.

Who / What do you enjoy?

(Glad to see you again Scribe. Hope all is well.)

Tag-fail. My bad.

“while screaming in tongues?”

Wait, skip that. I want to know how many people “got” the House ad. Younguns?

I’ve only attended classical concerts for the last ten years or so, and classical is practically all I listen to.

Whooo. It’s practically all my parents ever listened to while I was alive, too. As a result, I’m pretty much on a lifelong hiatus from it.

Mario Lopez is a conservative???

Don’t believe that “everyone in Hollywood is a commie america hater” hype. ‘Snot true.

‘Though, just to make fans jealous, I helped him once at Kinkos, & he was perfectly nice.

What’s all this about headless leftist mummies?

sexy boots

Pair of Sears, Roebuck engineer boots is all I got. They make me about two inches taller, if that does anything.

What’s all this about headless leftist mummies?

They’re trying to cross from Mexico to Arizona, but keep getting lost and bumping into the border fence.

What’s all this about headless leftist mummies?

Sounds like something DKW would be interested in.

“Pair of Sears, Roebuck engineer boots is all I got. They make me about two inches taller, if that does anything.”

Well, I do appreciate a man who is vertically-endowed.

What’s all this about headless leftist mummies?

The head always seemed fine to me. Once you lose all your teeth, it really opens up possibilities. Wait, who’s mummy?

I go to sleep each night to the sounds of my white noise / rain / stream app in the iPod dock across the room and my bedside Tivoli radio tuned to KQAC all classical.org

As if anyone should care.

Except weekends when opbmusic is on. Unless Jeremy Peterson is playing bizarre shit in which case KMHD jazz radio is in second slot.

I go to sleep each night to the sounds of my white noise / rain / stream app in the iPod dock across the room

Heh. So does Mini__B.

Who / What do you enjoy?

I’m kind of a traditionalist. Give me Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin and I’m happy. More contemporary composers, not so much. (Although I attended a concert last night that featured Shostakovitch’s Second Piano Concerto, and I loved it.)

I’m better, thanks. They still don’t know what’s wrong with my eyes, but they’re improving on their own. My left is almost back to normal, and I can read again with my right. It’s really hard, but I can do it, and I couldn’t before.

It’s practically all my parents ever listened to while I was alive, too. As a result, I’m pretty much on a lifelong hiatus from it.

Funny how that works. My brother and my mother (laid to rest Monday) are/were totally into opera, which I never liked and still don’t. I love classical orchestral music, but opera just doesn’t do it for me.

Chris…I’m sure you meant “while they were alive,” no?

Unless you and ZRMcD have something in common you’re not telling us…

I find that the dulcet tones of G.G. Allin lure me to sleep in a snap.

Bitter Scribe, I’m glad to hear that your sight is getting better. So weird and distressing!

I… uh… why did I say “alive”? Both of them and (last I checked) myself are still very alive. That should’ve read “when I was living with them.” How it got shorthanded to “alive,” I have no idea. And no, I am not subconsciously asking who will rid me of these troublesome parents.

I wasn’t going to be incoherent, but then I got high…

My bodywash is oddly sweet/pepperminty…I now smell like a bottle of mouthwash.

Tingly!

The tingle lets you know it’s working… or stroke.

Van Hipp

this is the dood i want to see at cpap or cpac or whatev…that is just a really cool name…

T & U…well done! literally moments after talking about a blog, you now are one! very nice!

Thanks!

I’ve actually been working on the appearance and the blogroll for a couple of days now, so I’m not *that* awesome.

It’s beautiful! And we read so many of the same blogs… where else do you comment?

for a couple of days now, so I’m not *that* awesome.

yeah…well miles ahead of me, kiddo…much as i have thought about blogging, it’s prolly not going to happen…

Sounds like something DKW would be interested in

Depends on what you mean by “headless”. I mean, sure there’s a lot of stuff that can still be done when oral sex is taken off the table and I can respect boundaries – but sometimes aversion to blowjobs (giving or receiving) is a symptom of much deeper problems.

It’s beautiful! And we read so many of the same blogs… where else do you comment?

Thanks!

Not anywhere else (very often, anyway). I’ve popped into Balloon Juice and I comment on Whiskeyfire sometimes. I try to at least read all the blogs of the regulars here, although I’m not as good about commenting on them as I’d like to be.

Am I too late to get on the hiphop/rap discussion?

alt.binaries.mom

Am I too late to get on the hiphop/rap discussion?

Depends on if you agree with me or not.

Musical genres smudge. Where does punk stop and rock begin? If you didn’t know the piece or artist, who could tell whether a song was happy hardcore or old school Gabber? I’d probably think it was some sort of electronic heavy drum n bass like Techo DNB – but that’s because I know almost nothing about music.

I’m a sucker for melodies. Always have been. Knowing that, I kinda sorta dismissed rap and hiphop music as “not my cup of tea” in my younger days. Did I mention that I know almost nothing about music? Modern hiphop has some of the ass-kickingest melodies being made.

Anyways, loks to me that the point about rap not being music has been settled. Now if only we can get Ebert to play Shadow of the Colossus.

alt.binaries.mom
HOT!

Depends on if you agree with me or not.
Not even close. Waving Flag? Overplayed. K’naan’s best song is this one.

Waving Flag? Overplayed.

I actually agree.

I love this one.

This is probably my favorite, though. (I think I posted that earlier? I dunno.)

T&U: Thanks for the good wishes. And congrats on your blog. Great start.

(I think I posted that earlier? I dunno.)

You did. Soobax has gots some mad flow.

*stops LOLing, delurks*

Giles is a big poopyhead:

What’s interesting to me is listening to the Left explain this Muslim mayhem, murder and demolition. The lovelies on the Left find this revolt understandable and thus celebrate it because they have abracadabra’ed all those involved in Mubarak’s overthrow into liberty lovers—and thus this ferocious unrest is legit.

What’s funny to me is that it only stopped being yet another awesome progressive bloodless pandemic of democratic people-power & became “mayhem, murder and demolition” when the pro-dictator psycho jockboys (more than a few of whom are Hozni’s hated police) came out to root for Big Daddy – or that wingnuts’ instant knee-jerk answer was to root for Team 30 MOAR YEARS OF IRON FISTS PLZ while calling Team FREEDOM a bunch of Muzlin terrorists, but (some) have since done a 180, after noticing what a bunch of fascistic puds they looked like saying so in their out-loud voice … & that the concept of Muslims being able to be on both sides or be both good & bad seems to have Giles & his ilk utterly gormed.

The CPAC schedule is out!

Meh.

Problem is, CPAC has a bad case of One Purity Purge Too Many Simplex: they’re like a mob of fucking gerbils with wires in the backs of their heads – & I’ve already had a good long peek at the control-panel – so I can pretty much parse their Gut Logic caterwaulings before they even puke them up now.

Change it up, kids!

*A hi-def FPS videogame based on Hillary hunting Christians from a Black Helicopter™!
*Obama’s secret plot to require Teabaggers to wear patches with a “T” on them by law!
*Jihadi suicide-bombers using their secret members-only HuffPo blog to finance WikiLeaks!
*Napolitano using airport screening to abduct children for pagan human-sacrifice rites!
*Rahm doesn’t care if he wins his mayoral race or not, because he really quit to help the Taliban bring more heroin into America!

Now THAT’s a CPAC we could all believe in, my friends!

Thanks, Bitter Scribe!

You did. Soobax has gots some mad flow.

It does. He is so good.

What did you all eat?

Stereotypical Sunday dinner. Roast beef, roasted carrots and parsnips, steamed broccoli and garlic mashed potatoes. No gravy as it wouldn’t have worked with the potatoes and I didn’t do Yorkshire pudding.

@Jim 5:50.

Thanks for stating it so well, Jim.

BTW, there’s been way too little POOP.

Glee is ruining zombies.

OK, so I just spent almost $80 ordering collectible used copies of R.A.Wilson’s original 1979 Schrodinger’s Cat trilogy after learning today that the compiled, single-volume version in print since 1988 underwent significant redactions, eliminating entire sections, totalling nearly 50 pages..

I cut my liberal teeth on Wilson’s fiction. And Leary, Vidal, Castaneda, Wolfe, and eventually Chomsky. When I learned that the unFUBARed version of S.C. that I recall so fondly hasn’t been in print since 1981, I got pissed off. (I *knew* something was missing when I reread it in 1995.)

Aminutz?

(At the very least I can turn a profit in another 20 years…)

First RHPS, then zombies. What’s nex…

Oh, Glub, no.

Vampires. It has to be vampires.

Nice blog template T&U. However, I will be spending the majority of my time at the mostest, awesomestest blog EVAH.

Although I am having trouble understanding WTF some of the rotating “photos” are, other than some really bad crystal-meth hangovers.

Today: Coffee, two peanut butter sandwiches (jelly too much additional work) leftover mac & cheese.

May have to leave bunker for milk. (Cheaper, easier to get cow in here?)

the mostest, awesomestest blog EVAH

What happens to guys who are too old for Skrewdriver.

“Chloe’s Open Socket?”

I can’t resist “Berlusconi’s Women” slideshows.

Although I am having trouble understanding WTF some of the rotating “photos” are, other than some really bad crystal-meth hangovers.

The photos remind me of a time when my mother volunteered me to help set up a retreat for Christian Ladies. I set up the chairs in neat rows and told the organizer that I had finished. She took one look, threw up her hands in exasperation, and began to rearrange them with about three feet on either side. “These are Christian Ladies,” she explained, “have you ever SEEN Christian Ladies?

Much, much better than brains:

Perfect Pot Roast

Select a Chuck roast or Brisket only. Preferably Chuck. Short Ribs will also do nicely. The idea here is to brown the roast on the stovetop, then cook it slowly so that the internal temperature of the meat stays between 150 and 170°F for as long as possible, converting the tough connective tissue of the flavorful chuck into mouth-watering tasty morsels of beefy succulence. &lt /drool &gt.

You will also need a heavy Dutch Oven. Cast iron or ceramic-coated iron works best. My dad has a monster ceramic-coated steel one big enough for a turkey but I haven’t seen one of those anywhere else. A deep-sided cast-iron skillet could serve in a pinch, but everyone should own a dutch oven.

3 to 5 lb Chuck Roast
2 Tbsp olive oil
Salt and Pepper to taste
1 med onion, diced
1 stalk celery, diced
1 med carrot, diced
1/2 tsp sugar
Garlic Powder to taste
1 can chicken broth (or 12 oz chix bullion, prepared)
1 can beef broth (or 12 oz beef bullion, prepared)
Thyme sprig (or 1/2 tsp Poultry Seasoning)
1/2 cup red wine

Preheat oven to 275°F. Pat the roast dry and cover on all sides with salt and pepper. Heat the dutch oven on the stovetop at med-hi until oil shimmers. Brown all sides of roast, and remove and set aside. Brown carrots, celery and onion in dutch oven until tender, add sugar and garlic powder and cook another 30 seconds. Add broths and 1/4c wine, deglazing bottom of dutch oven. Return roast to dutch oven, adding water if necessary to bring liquid halfway up side of roast. Cover tightly and place in oven. Cook 4-6 hours at 275. Turn roast every 2 hours.

When roast is fall-apart tender, remove roast from broth and cover with foil. Skim fat from broth, add remaining wine and reduce 50% over high heat on the stovetop. Serve reduced broth at table like gravy. Goes great with rice or egg noodles and some crusty bread.

If you want root vegetables, you can add them 1/2 hour before preparing the broth. I like carrots and baby red potatoes. Remove the veggies with the roast. You can’t overcook this roast, so don’t worry about timing.

This makes awesome leftovers, too. I make this mainly so that I can pack it for lunch during the week. But my wife loves it, too, and she seldom likes beef.

Is it too pedestrian to post recipes here? Sounds like summa y’all can’t cook, and I’m proof it ain’t hard.

One more: For Chili Colorado, I use that basic recipe but I start with 2lb Stew Meat, tossed in a bowl with a dry rub of 6Tbsp Chili Powder, 1 Tbsp Cumin, 1Tbsp Pasilla chile powder, 2Tbsp Garlic Powder and 1Tbsp each salt and black pepper. In place of beef broth I use a can of tomato sauce. And I skip the reduction step at the end. Serve that on a plate next to some refried beans and steamed corn tortillas.

Is it too pedestrian to post recipes here?

Hey!

Hey!

Sorry. What did you have for dinner?

nuthin special… that sounds pretty good.

You will also need a heavy Dutch Oven. Cast iron or ceramic-coated iron works best. My dad has a monster ceramic-coated steel one big enough for a turkey but I haven’t seen one of those anywhere else.

That is unpossible. Megan McArdle has informed us that slow-cooking utensils are a recent invention of the wonderful contemporary world that is so blessed by history as to include her.

re: dickwolves

Trigger Warning: Mostly humourless ranting follows.

I did kinda wonder what was up when I saw the news post on Penny Arcade on Wednesday. This is the kinda thing that reminds me why I loathe Melissa McEwan. She plays the victim card almost as well as white male Chritstian wingnuts.

NEWSFLASH – Penny Arcade is a webcomic that sometimes does offensive shit. You waited until 2010 to get upset about “rape culture”? WTF?!?! Teh Fruit Fucker™ for IPU’s sake; is one of their most popular characters, and you instead picked a WoW comic to get pissed off about? Sure I’ll agree that Penny Arcade hasn’t acquitted itself very well in their handling of this – but I think that’s mostly because it took a long time for them to realize that you really are that stupid. FFS, have you ever read Penny Arcade?

Look, I understand the point – jokes about rape aren’t funny, they are deadly serious. They cause severe emotional harm and damage to rape survivors. They make people become jaded towards what is a vile and disgusting crime. Okay, understood. Enjoy your moral high ground. Hope the view is great up there.

So, the worse part of the Penny Arcade guys’ behaviour is their callous lack of regard for people who have stated their offense. Try and understand this – it is very difficult to believe that the Sixth Slave comic has prompted that type of honest reaction. Note – I’m not saying that the reaction wasn’t honest, just that it is hard to believe it to be. SRSLY, knowing PA, knowing the jokes that they do, it is mind-boggling to think that the response was actually serious. That’s where they were coming from. It’s like butchering a nation’s traditional cultural form of poetry to make a joke about doing someone’s mom and getting called out on have a weak kigo. The rational response is “LOL, I should said something about winter.”

It is however, also clear that at least some Penny Arcade fans have been behaving like dickwolves. So, perhaps another solid indictment against Tycho and Gabe is that they haven’t behaved in a fashion to limit the amount of fanboi assholery that might be unleashed. BUT, and I’m only doing this because I am pissed off at McEwan’s superior smugitudinous self-righteous smugness with the smugly superior self-righteousnesses – you know who else is acting in a fashion to get her fans all riled up? Hint: It’s Melissa McEwan.

Normally I’d end this type of rant by saying something about fucking Melissa’s mom, but that’s probably unwise given the context. So instead let me end with this:

Shorter D-KW: Fuck You Melissa McEwan.

In addition to my jambalaya, we had:

veggie chili
swedish meatballs
beer cheese dip
(jalapeno) popper dip
guac
Ham sammiches on Green bread
cookies
Green and Gold mini-tarts
cheese (head) cake
plenty of drinkies

all seasoned with VICTORY!

(jalapeno) popper dip

Wrong poppers!

veggie chili

Wrong, period.

Agreed. Real chili doesn’t have any [recognizable] veggies in it at alls. That excludes beans, also.

Any vegetable matter must be either dried and ground into a fine powder, or cooked until liquefied.

Absolutely. No fucking beans!

LoL. Speaking of recipes, I opened stickies.app to paste in a snippet I might want to use later, and found an older snippet left unused from one of last week’s threads:

PSEUDOFREUDIAN SNICKERS
These are “psuedo” because sometimes a candybar is just a candybar. (This may not be one of those times.)

1/2c . salty nuts
1c . creamed nougat
1/2c . buttery caramel
3/4c . milked chocolate

Splay salty nuts on greased sheet. Smother nuts with buttery caramel and work until stiff. When peaked, glaze with creamed nougat and bathe in milk chocolate. For best effect, flip over and repeat, if possible. Makes six bars. Finish with a cigarette and pillow talk, and maybe a nap.

I forget where I used ‘pseudofreudian snickers,’ but I do remember using it literally and wanted a metaphorical followup.

Now that I’ve posted the dregs of my semantic bilge, I’m off to bed.

(After some milk & cookies.)

I am wondering if a necessary trait to becoming a tea-bagger involves a special kind of color-blindness, wherein you can perceive the USA! flag ONLY if it is used to cover EVERY AVAILABLE INCH OF SPACE.

Kind of like the traditional scale of right-wing assholishness (the inverse relation of penis-size to HUMMER ratio), the large scale and greater ubiquity of flag-waving demonstrates an inverse relation to anything approaching an understanding of the US Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, ad nauseum.

rant over.