Why Let The Queers Ruin A Perfectly Good English Word?
Posted on September 9th, 2010 by Tintin
ABOVE: John J. Miller and Herman Munster at family reunion
Slightly Shorter John J. Miller, F.W.S.™, America’s Shittiest Website™
The Queer Quota
- Hey, look, I found a gay person using the word “queer.” That means I can now call people “queer” as much as I want and say it as often as I want. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. Queer. No queers here at National Review! Queers suck. Boy, I can’t wait until the next time I hear some black person saying the N-word, and I can also use that word as much as I want. Who is this Laura person you keep mentioning?
‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™
Wait, “queer” is a bad word? Equivalent to “nigger?” Honestly, I did not know this.
I’m standing with Uncle Howard on this one- I prefer the word outré, or maybe even eldritch.
Oh, good fucking GOD. Queers have been calling themselves “queers” for a long-ass time.
He might also be surprised by the fact that it’s not only gay men that call themselves “queer,” but a whole host of people with various sexualities and genders.
What the fuck does he think the “Q” stands for in LGBTQ, anyway? Quorn?
Rest assured, we have no queer quotas.
So it’s just pure luck you’re all as queer as 3$ bills?
No queers at NRO.
C’mon Jonah, don’t forget that one time back in college…
Wait, “queer” is a bad word? Equivalent to “nigger?” Honestly, I did not know this.
Yeah, it was/is a slur. “Fag” is closer to “n****er,” I think, but I still really don’t believe it’s as ugly. Other people are free to disagree, of course.
Queer as Folk. H8rs.
Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. Also h8rs too.
Other people are free to disagree, of course.
No, they’re not, goddammit!
No queers at NRO.
C’mon Jonah, don’t forget that one time back in college…
I don’t think necrophilia falls under the heading of “queer”. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it.
No queers at NRO.
Not the good kind, anyway. More the creepy uncle with 800 inbred dogs and who hangs around the bathroom listening to people pee kind.
This is such a stupid argument that I can’t even figure out how to make fun of it.
I would have an easier time mocking a three-year old.
More the creepy uncle with 800 inbred dogs and who hangs around the bathroom listening to people pee kind.
HA! FTW.
“Bike seat sniffers” has just been replaced.
Rest assured, we have no queer quotas.
They’d have to fire people if they did.
“Isn’t it rich?
Isn’t it queer,
Losing my timing this late
In my career?
And where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns.
Well, maybe next year.”
Yup, send in the clowns… don’t bother, they’re
hereat America’s Shittiest Website!™Everyone watched the nigger vid from the thread downstairs, right?
Anyway, I left a comment over at studentfreepress which may or may not appear.
What the fuck does he think the “Q” stands for in LGBTQ, anyway? Quorn?
Qum.
Wait. John J Miller…isn’t he the rank asshole who wrote that really crappy Civil War
re-enactmentnovel that we had such great sport with on Amazon?What the fuck does he think the “Q” stands for in LGBTQ
Oh my god, it’s Quran. I KNEW there was a connection. Mystery solved. One Scooby Snack for tsam.
There’s a joke about The Queers somewhere in here, but I’m not familiar enough with their music to make it.
Although they really should stop making fun of Trig.
More the creepy uncle with 800 inbred dogs and who hangs around the bathroom listening to people pee kind.
We have the same uncle? HEY CUZ!
FYWP
Homer : Because of you gay people, all the good names like Lance and Juliet are all gone. Those were the toughest names we had! Now they are just … …
John: Queer?
Homer : That’s another thing. You took that word too. That’s the word we use to make fun of you! Now I am taking that word and my son with me!
I saw no requirement to be gay. Candidates must “identify as queer.” “Queer” no longer means the same thing as gay. Perhaps you should get out more often. And read more carefully. And think more rigorously.
Tee hee. I’m sure homeboy would be SHOCKED to know that I identify as queer, even if I am one of the redheaded stepchildren of the LGBTQ movement.
Oh my god, it’s Quran. I KNEW there was a connection. Mystery solved. One Scooby Snack for tsam.
They would’ve gotten away with it if it weren’t for that meddling Washingtonian!
Qum.
Quim?
Qum.
Quim?
Quidditch.
Wait. John J Miller…isn’t he the rank asshole who wrote that really crappy Civil War
re-enactmentnovel that we had such great sport with on Amazon?If being obsessed with mechanical cyclopes isn’t queer (in both broad and narrow senses of the term), I don’t know what is.
Oh my god, it’s Quran. I KNEW there was a connection.
Not Qaeda? I was misinformed.
Not Qaeda? I was misinformed.
That’s what you get for being straight, you straighty-head!
Quidditch.
Quorum.
Not Qaeda? I was misinformed.
It’s definitely Quran. I just made it up about 10 minutes ago. That’s hard evidence, dawg.
We have the same uncle? HEY CUZ!
Hmmm… do the words “an’ everything” added to the end of every sentence or fragment thereof mean anything to you?
Queer Nation? Obviously h8erz!
Also, OT: Rupert “Out-Goebbelsing Goebbels” Murdoch has a sad.
Perhaps Sir Conrad Black Of Cell-Block-B-Shire can give him some pointers on trading handjobs for cigarettes?
Queers suck.
I have it on good authority that persons of the non-queer persuasion occasionally suck too.
My comment made it through moderation. I am somewhat surprised.
Is there something you’re not telling us? ‘Cuz please…don’t.
Mind:blown
Mind:blown
How do you feel about burning one now that you know all the facts?
Queer? Hell, I’ve always been weird.
Point me to the nearest crazy pastor!
It’s definitely Quran. I just made it up about 10 minutes ago. That’s hard evidence, dawg.
I can confirm, as I just read it on the Internet.
Poe, a queer, an ice cold beer. (To the tune of Do Re Mi)
Party time, bitchez.
Point me to the nearest crazy pastor!
Step into my office.
If I was gay, I wouldn’t consider myself queer so much as bent.
In tenuously related news, http://gawker.com/5633854/duke-college-republicans-lose-funding-amid-accusations-of-homophobia
*I do not frequent gawker, I was led there from another site. Stop judging me!
FYWP
Poe, a queer, an ice cold beer.
Gay: a pocket full of son.
How do you feel about burning one now that you know all the facts?
Point me to the nearest crazy pastor!
I thought you meant a joint and I was all like, “Yaaay, me too!” Then I realized you were talking about the Quran and I was all like, “Okay, no. Never mind.”
In tenuously related news, http://gawker.com/5633854/duke-college-republicans-lose-funding-amid-accusations-of-homophobia
Did I just witness justice? My ears are ringing. I feel strange. What happened?
Oh, tsam, you make burning holy books so damn sexy.
I thought you meant a joint and I was all like, “Yaaay, me too!” Then I realized you were talking about the Quran and I was all like, “Okay, no. Never mind.”
Feel free to smoke whatever you like.
Oh, tsam, you make burning holy books so damn sexy.
Oh yeah? How about this…HISTORY BOOK?
In tenuously related news, http://gawker.com/5633854/duke-college-republicans-lose-funding-amid-accusations-of-homophobia
Why is it every Young Republicans group you hear about has a gay president?
When I was in college, the Young Republicans tried to recruit me, and the president invited me to dinner at his house to talk about running me for school president.
I turned him down, of course, but he still hit on me. Years later, he had a minor struggle when he was running the Young Republicans of NYC, and appointed his successor to some post or other and the guy went to the NY Post and told some stories about the really shabby stuff this asshat was involved with, like threatening to have a rival killed, and exposing another to his family.
Now, he just writes histories of Stonewall and pretends not to be confused.
*I do not frequent gawker, I was led there from another site. Stop judging me!
Not judging. I used to hang out at Jezebel.
omg, another gay Republican. On principle, I’m happy for his victory, but, jesus…WHY are you a Rethuglican?
Ho, a queer that Peej holds dear.
You betta stop. *fans self* Hey. Step away from that 17th Century French Literature book. I’m not made of stone, dammit!
WHY are you a Rethuglican?
I believe it starts with an “m” and ends with “oney.”
And/or starts with an “r” and ends with “acism.”
Yeesh – I remember when I was in like 4th grade we used to giggle about “queer”, including making a tweak to this version of Frost’s “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening” that we sang:
My little horse must think
itI’m queerto stop without a farmhouse near
and oh how we laughed.
But somewhere along the way I grew out of it.
I thought the “Q” in LGBTQ meant “Questioning”, and that “Queer” was kind of a catch-all that meant, roughly, LGBTQ (ie: any of these). I must admit, 30% queer membership (assuming there is actually any such quota, which I doubt) seems high, if what you want is to represent the general population, but then again, we are talking about students.
And miles to go before I schtup
And miles to go before I schtup
Ho, a queer that Peej holds dear.
We got “Do” taken care of already. We need a “Mi”
Mi, a gay all for myself
Why is it every Young Republicans group you hear about has a gay president?
Speaking of which, Alex Knepper, the gay atheist teabagger who wrote that “it’s not rape if she’s drunk” thing a few months ago? He was fired from the college paper (okay, voluntarily resigned, and if you believe that, I’ll tell you another), and apparently is now writing for PJTV.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/author/alexknepper/
But none of these people ever make it to true star (e.g. Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck) status.
That’s gotta be it. Depressing.
WHY are you a Rethuglican?
He’ll probably say something about how the best way to safeguard gay rights in Iran is by killing large numbers of Iranians in aerial bombardments.
But the real reason is that lower taxes on Duke graduates are WAY more important than human rights.
I thought the “Q” in LGBTQ meant “Questioning”, and that “Queer” was kind of a catch-all that meant, roughly, LGBTQ (ie: any of these)
Wiki says it means “queer” but that in this instance, “queer” is meant to represent people who question their sexuality, so you’re both right!
Got off the boat, it’s just kind of stupid. The original story essentially seems to be the standard conservative stupidity where an attempt at diversity in order to better address wide aspects of student life and ensure that the heads aren’t disconnected from the students is “OMG, white people in the gulags”. This is kindly reduced to its raw stupid in the comments.
Here’s a tasty durian example:
“This basically is par for the course. Whites who are paying the least bit of attention know that “diversity” and “equality” mean that whites are entitled to equal representation *at best* – though inferior representation is preferable.”
Yeah, privilege is a hell of a drug apparently considering the tenacious inability of many in the dominant class to understand that minority groups have to learn dominant culture. It is inescapable. Queers, by dint of living in this world will know more about straight culture than they’ll ever want, same with blacks on white culture (insert choking on Obama’s socialism joke here), and women on male culture.
It’s why “diversity” programs “underrepresent” dominant groups. Because dominant groups are the fucking default. It’s why these people can whine about their “real america” being “taken away” by the existence of non-dominant-group people and still be considered serious people by the media.
The shorter seems to be accurate in that Miller just seems to want to say queer over and over again, but it seems he has a special hard-on (not-so-VPR) for the phrase “openly queer”, which he puts in special scare quotes in lieu of an actual argument.
So, his problem isn’t that there are queers out there, it’s that they dare be open about it and remind him that there are queers out there, say writing for America’s Shittiest Website, yanking it to photoshopped pictures of Bush, and living in deep deep shame of the cravings his filthy human body seems to produce.
I believe it starts with an “m” and ends with “oney.”</i.
I believe it starts with "self" and ends with "loathing." But that's just me.
t “diversity” and “equality” mean that whites are entitled to equal representation *at best*
Wow. That’s coming right out and saying it. “My problem with this liberal notion of ‘equality’ is that these liberals have the NERVE to think I’m NOT entitled to special treatment just because of my Daddy’s last name!”
Pup, we can’t forget that aspect either. I always think people like this enjoy getting pats on the head for being the “good woman” or the “good gay” or the “good black.” Fuckin’ pathetic.
I thought the “Q” in LGBTQ meant “Questioning”, and that “Queer” was kind of a catch-all that meant, roughly, LGBTQ
I’ve always seen the second “Q” in LGBTQQ to mean “questioning,” so LGBTQ’s “Q” is “queer,” but it’s possible other people do it differently.
Okay, so, like, “queer” can be a catch-all, but it also can be an “otherwise not defined.” Ultimately, “queer” means “not heteronormative,” which can include LGBTs (and Is), but can also include people who don’t identify as LGBT or I. Like, genderqueers are people who fuck with/define their own gender and don’t consider themselves trans because “transgender” often means someone who has “switched” genders in the m/f binary. Though not necessarily. 🙂
So, his problem isn’t that there are queers out there, it’s that they dare be open about it and remind him that there are queers out there
Oh, yeah. Conservatives don’t really care if queers exist, as long as they sneak around in the dark and hide their true identities, like a good Conservative would do.
I believe it starts with “self” and ends with “loathing.” But that’s just me.
That. Also. Too. Probably more than anything, actually.
actor212-
I think there’s a longer version of LGBTQ where there are two Qs to cover queer and questioning.
Queers got a lot of variety. Most usages are basically as a catch-all term for the alphabet soup the community is, one which doesn’t leave out any group no matter how small.
But it also can be used more specifically to talk about genderqueer, as a term for those who believe their sexuality doesn’t fit nicely enough into LGB or who are questioning and aren’t fully “out” enough to identify as LGorB, and it can cover fringe activities that may or may not be covered by another letter like drag.
In general though, it’s a nice short umbrella term because it can be uncomfortable when your appellation is bumping against your cervix.
I think Tintin’s mocking post is perhaps the best way to shake this asshat’s tree.
Roman conquerors always had a slave ride behind them in triumphal homecomings, reminding them that pride goeth before a fall and stuff like that.
I see something similar here. I see someone standing behind this guy everywhere, whispering “Queer, queer, queer, queer….”
T&U-
Yup, my first entry into being “one of the community” was through the queer umbrella, since I figured out I was asexual before I figured out I was trans.
I also see it as the “I give up button”.
Okay, we got the lesbians and gays, okay, right, and yes, bisexuals, that makes sense and sure, trans people have always been there with us and wait, intersex, true, and genderqueer, huh asexuals? You know what, I give up, it’s queer now, fuck the alphabet letters.
I see someone standing behind this guy everywhere, whispering “Queer, queer, queer, queer….”
He’s just angry that he gets a h***d on while sucking…
I’ll let you all finish that. I feel like I’m walking the “too much” line.
“What the fuck does he think the “Q” stands for in LGBTQ, anyway?”
Jerry: “Quone”?
Helen: …30…31…
Jerry: “Quone”? No, I’m afraid that I’m going to have to challenge that.
(Jerry picks up the dictionary.)
Helen: …32…
Kramer: No, you don’t have to challenge that. That’s a word. That’s a definite word.
Jerry: I am challenging.
Kramer: Quone. To quone something.
Jerry: Uh-huh.
(Jerry looks up the word.)
Helen: I’m not playing with you anymore.
Morty: Quone’s not a word.
Jerry: No good. Sorry. There it is. Get it off.
Helen: (to Kramer) Why did you make me put that down?
Kramer: Nah, we need a medical dictionary! If a patient gets difficult, you quone him. [edit]
He’s just angry that he gets a h***d on while sucking…
That was sort of where I was heading…pardon the pun…with this. The boy’s closet door is swung wide open yet he won’t step out.
fuck the alphabet letters.
Some letters for John: STFU. FOAD.
I thought the “Q” in LGBTQ meant…
Gee, it’s as if there’s a whole spectrum of sexuality and sexual expression that’s really hard to categorize. I have a proposal: how about we replace the whole alphabet soup with a much shorter appelation: “people.”
We could just call everybody, no matter where they are on the heteronormal / homosexual scale “people” and treat them like “people” and allow them to sort out their own physical and emotional needs.
Pshyeah, right. Like that makes any sense.
Whites who are paying the least bit of attention know that “diversity” and “equality” mean that whites are entitled to equal representation *at best* – though inferior representation is preferable.”
Wait, what? He’s really complaining he might get treated EQUALLY for a change, or even occasionally get the short end of the stick like other folks have for CENTURIES?
And queer people can’t be white?
Gee, it’s as if there’s a whole spectrum of sexuality and sexual expression that’s really hard to categorize. I have a proposal: how about we replace the whole alphabet soup with a much shorter appelation: “people.”
Well, OK, but it’s going to make picking up chicks harder…
And queer people can’t be white?
No, because dey don know nuffin bout birfin no babies!
Oh also:
Fa, first syllable in “fab” (-ulouuuuus!)
Fa, first syllable in “fab”
So, a sailor giving head
Well, OK, but it’s going to make picking up chicks harder…
Think of it as opening up possibilities. Your universe of possible partners is suddenly much bigger.
A Bit of Fry and Laurie summed this up pretty well years ago (though they start off with the word ‘gay’ rather than ‘queer’).
I see someone standing behind this guy everywhere, whispering “Queer, queer, queer, queer….”
He probably has this running through his head constantly.
I also see it as the “I give up button”.
Ha! Definitely. And it’s not like everyone under that umbrella has the same interests, goals, and ideas of what sexuality and gender really are.
La, Layona Davenport
This thread is like so gay. ppfft!
Some letters for John: STFU. FOAD.
Don’t forget the ever useful DIAF.
A Bit of Fry and Laurie
Everytime I hear Hugh Laurie speak in his native British, I’m astounded at how well he does an American accent on the TeeVee…
We could just call everybody, no matter where they are on the heteronormal / homosexual scale “people” and treat them like “people” and allow them to sort out their own physical and emotional needs.
I’m sure most queers would be a-okay with that if everybody else allowed that to happen.
Well, OK, but it’s going to make picking up chicks harder…
You can still get’em down at the hatchery.
Heh. Crazy county chairman candidate is now #1 on the Balloon Juice charts.
You can still get’em down at the hatchery.
In fact, they are hiring people right now to pick them up and sex them!
You can still get’em down at the hatchery.
I’m no pedophile.
I’m no pedophile.
They’re not for pets, layers and fryers only.
They’re not for pets, layers and fryers only.
I was hoping for a couple of mother pluckers/
Gee, it’s as if there’s a whole spectrum of sexuality and sexual expression that’s really hard to categorize. I have a proposal: how about we replace the whole alphabet soup with a much shorter appelation: “people.”
Due to my sexual confusion and a pervasive inferiority complex, I’m going to have to decline.
I was hoping for a couple of mother pluckers/
SHUT YOUR MOUTH! They probably do have a couple good lays, though.
They’re not for pets, layers and fryers only.
I would’ve expected Actor to jump at a sure layer.
Okay, we got the lesbians and gays, okay, right, and yes, bisexuals, that makes sense and sure, trans people have always been there with us and wait, intersex, true, and genderqueer, huh asexuals?
But not the Irish!
They probably do have a couple good lays, though.
Only with a henway
Everytime I hear Hugh Laurie speak in his native British, I’m astounded at how well he does an American accent on the TeeVee…
I am too, initially. Then I remember how many American actors fake British accents (with varying results), and remember that it’s not any different. Then I wonder why I’m so astounded by such a thing.
It flies in the face of American Exceptionalism™
I’m no pedophile.
Would you say you’re more of a headophile?
Alex Knepper, the gay atheist teabagger who wrote that “it’s not rape if she’s drunk”
One thing we have learned from piling onto Ross Douthat (oo-err) is that there are people who find consent to be a turn-off.
What’s a henway?
One thing we have learned from piling onto Ross Douthat (oo-err) is that there are people who find consent to be a turn-off.
They were all warned not to tease the panther.
Would you say you’re more of a headophile?
I’m a chedophile.
And perhaps a credophile…
CRED, the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters, has been active for over 30 years in the fields of international disaster and conflict …
Guh?
One thing we have learned from piling onto Ross Douthat (oo-err) is that there are people who find consent to be a turn-off.
Don’t Douthat!
They were all warned not to tease the panther.
My next tattoo is going to be “Don’t Tease the Panther” in script with a sleek-ass, mean looking panther over my crooch.
I’m a chedophile.
I prefer provolone.
CRED, the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters, has been active for over 30 years in the fields of international disaster and conflict …
Guh?
No, that’s a CREDophile. I’m a credophile. I go for people with good credit.
Then I remember how many American actors fake British accents (with varying results), and remember that it’s not any different. Then I wonder why I’m so astounded by such a thing.
Yea, but there’s the rub. For every hundred bad British accents…I’m looking at you, Gwynneth Paltrow…there are probably 75 British actors who take the time to not only flatten their voices into American intonations, and sharpen their vowel sounds, but they research the regional accents and can do those at the drop of a hat.
I remember watching Tom Wilkinson in that George Clooney movie…Michael Clayton?…and being amazed that he kept a sort of Midwestern mien through the entire movie, despite the fact that he had to get into some really heavy emotional crap and give a performance of that underneath it all. Tilda Swinton was great too, but then I’d seen her portray an American before so I sort of expected it.
What’s a henway?
About five pounds.
baDUMching
I’m a chedophile.
I’m a C.H.U.D.ophile.
I prefer provolone.
I tried so, so hard to change, man. I had soft, creamy bries, and pungent, crumbly bleus, and all sorts of goats, but I just can’t shake my love of the ched.
They were all warned not to tease the panther.
Is that like polishing the dolphin? Stroking the bishop? Spanking the monkey? Popping the clutch?
My next tattoo is going to be “Don’t Tease the Panther” in script with a sleek-ass, mean looking panther over my crooch.
Picks or it didn’t happen.
Oh. My. God.
Pics. Not picks. Was Not Was.
OT, but the following sports headline:
Vikings, Saints Brace for Another Collision
mad me think of Lindisfarne.
I tried so, so hard to change, man. I had soft, creamy bries, and pungent, crumbly bleus, and all sorts of goats, but I just can’t shake my love of the ched.
Well… I was about seventeen and some mates and me went to a party, and, er… we had quite a lot to drink… and then some of the fellows there … started handing … cheese around … and well just out of curiosity I tried a bit … and well that was that.
Uh, “made”.
I tried so, so hard to change, man. I had soft, creamy bries, and pungent, crumbly bleus, and all sorts of goats, but I just can’t shake my love of the ched.
Don’t want to lose your ched cred.
mad me think of Lindisfarne.
You’re weirder than I am, I confess.
I’m a C.H.U.D.ophile.
Oh, and here I thought all those bite marks were just because of some weird kink…well, I mean, they are, but even weirder than I thought.
Oh, and here I thought all those bite marks were just because of some weird kink…well, I mean, they are, but even weirder than I thought.
Once you go CHUD, you never…well, I’ll come up with something.
You’re weirder than I am, I confess.
“Weird”, innit a synonym for “queer”?
Glenn Beck’s new book about teasing panthers and the proper use of anhydrous ammonia in punditry.
“Weird”, innit a synonym for “queer”?
Odd. Bizarre. FABulous!
Once you go CHUD, you never…well, I’ll come up with something.
Pound your pud?
Pound your pud?
Milk your dud?
“But not the Irish!”
LOL!
Oh and FTR, I’ve heard plenty a British actor do a shitty American accent.
mad me think of Lindisfarne.
Meh. I prefer Renaissance.
over my crooch.
Is this a new portmanteau word or just BAD SPELLING?
Rest assured, we have no queer quotas.
“Zero” is a quota, isn’t it?
I’ve heard plenty a British actor do a shitty American accent.
Yes, but I don’t watch indie films.
Is this a new portmanteau word or just BAD SPELLING?
I think the Western Hemisphere is being bombarded by typo rays from space.
Moral: Do not accept army recruits called “Morlock”.
Bake your spud? Boil your blood? Mate your stud? Stanch your flood? Pie your mud?
Pie your mud?
THAT’S the one!
Moral: Do not accept army recruits called “Morlock”.
And Adam’s last name is actually “Renfield.”
Moral: Do not accept army recruits called “Morlock”.
Recruiting standards are way down, subterranean, even.
Recruiting standards are way down, subterranean, even.
This is why CHUDophiles rule.
BTW, the Jeebus Constitution painter guy is at it again.
BTW, the Jeebus Constitution painter guy is at it again.
Why is it that JFK and Dumbya look like they’re playing “rock, paper, scissors” to see who shtups Madison?
No, that’s a CREDophile. I’m a credophile. I go for people
with good creditwho are credulous.Fixed to make it more believable.
No, that’s a CREDophile. I’m a credophile
At least you didn’t say CREEDophile, which would bring out the pitchforks and torches crowd.
I thought I was open-minded, but this talk of Creedophilia is squicking me out.
I thought I was open-minded, but this talk of Creedophilia is squicking me out.
You may have a Stapp infection.
Painter of shite: “3. It is not a partisan painting. I take no favoritism of Republicans or Democrats. Both parties are guilty.”
Yeah, which is why Reagan is reaching out to give the Forgotten White Guy a holy hand job but FDR, Johnson, Clinton, etc, people who actually DID shit that HELPED people have their backs to him. DIAF, you evil lying motherfucker.
“Is this a new portmanteau word or just BAD SPELLING?”
I blame iPhone.
BTW, the quran burning has been cancelled. Looks I bought this new blouse for NOTHING.
Is this a new portmanteau word or just BAD SPELLING?
Not bad spelling. Alas, I cannot take credit for said portmanteau.
BTW, the quran burning has been cancelled.
Raging about Muslim appeasement in five….four…three….two….one…
Why am I not surprised that Irky Irksome beat me to the punch?
BTW, the quran burning has been cancelled.
Raging about Muslim appeasement in five….four…three….two….one…
More likely they’ll say “see? We’ve been reasonable and canceled the Koran burning, now you be reasonable and cancel the YMMA.”
Oh great, according to AP, the pastor claims it’s because Imam Rauf agreed to move the Park 51 project: Article here
Chris, apparently that’s part of the deal. Details are sketchy for me but I think the imam has agreed to move the center.
I haz a sad.
Did I call it or what?
Ok latest is that the imam has NOT agreed to move it.
Oh great, according to AP, the pastor claims it’s because Imam Rauf agreed to move the Park 51 project
Right. Pastor Rauf is going to give this assclown political cover?
I don’t think so.
This is a shot of the top of Google News right now.
“If korans are burned in Florida by some moron preacher, the terrorists will get new recruits.
If the Ground Zero Mosque is moved in New York, the terrorists will get new recruits.
In other words, we either bow to the demands and wishes of radical Islamists or else.
This is madness. No. This is Barack Obama’s America.”
by Eric ‘I have a very small penis’ Erickson
No dipshit, you and Osama our on the same side you fuckin’ asshole! If the terrorsts win, you and your bank account win. Bin Laden wants this fool to burn Korans even more than you do! He also is more against the muslim YMCA than you are. He is laughing at you you useless idiot! You could not be more anti-American if you sucked Bin laden’s cock in order to get a commission in Al Quida’s army you panty waiste pussy coward!!
From the AP article: “[Jones] said instead of his plan to burn the books on Saturday to mark the ninth anniversary of 9/11, he will be flying to New York to speak to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf about moving the mosque.”
Imam Rauf, Jon Stewart has a gospel chorus you might want to borrow.
something eated my rant against erick son of shit!
Sarah Palin is not going to like Pastor Bation or whatever his name is. He sounds like competition.
She can wink better than him.
Sarah Palin is not going to like Pastor Bation
I smell a winning Republican ticket!
something eated my rant against erick son of shit!
The commenting software has a friend!
Assclowns need tolerance too. Or someone needs to take ’em for a ride…
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Church-Cancels-Quran-Burning-102571464.html
But officials connected with the New York mosque project said there was no agreement to move the location.
Good. DON’T. Don’t even meet with them. Let them burn their Korans or not burn their Korans, whatever the fuck they feel like, and go about your business. Period.
Sarah Palin is not going to like Pastor Bation or whatever his name is. He sounds like competition.
Here’s hoping this doesn’t start a series of porno parodies based on Crazy Florida Pastor.
I’ll bet you could dress up in a beard and call yourself Mohamed Rauf Mohamed Mahmoud Rauf and have a lot of fun with Terry Jones.
Vikings, Saints Brace for Another Collision
mad me think of Lindisfarne.
As a Viking fan I hope for a similar result.
i feel really sorry for the man who was essentially the zeppo of monty python.
The
shambling remains of print journalismPaper of Record recently profiled the Right Honorable Reverend Jones ( http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/26/us/26gainesville.html?_r=2 ) and, in addition to noting his handlebar mustache and perpetually rubicund visage (dude’s cheeks look like the fiery furnaces of hell are burning right inside his head, which, maybe), the profile included this delightful passage:“We have to be careful,” he said. He tapped a holster on the right hip of his jean shorts; it held a .40-caliber pistol, which he said he was licensed to carry. “The overall response,” he added, “has been much greater than we expected.”
Mr. Jones who seems to spend much of his time inside a dank, dark office with a poster from the movie “Braveheart” and a picture of former President George W. Bush, appears to be largely oblivious to the potential consequences of his plans. Speaking in short sentences with a matter-of-fact drawl, he said that he could not understand why other Christians, including the nation’s largest evangelical association, had called for him to cancel “International Burn a Koran Day.”
He’s just a plainspoke, rootin’ tootin’ freedom fighter, come to clean up this whole damn town of the Moslem (he says it that way, and he had Anderson Hays Vanderbilt Cooper saying it that way too in an interview!) menace. Also he’ll paint his face blue and kick the Brits out of Scotland for an encore.
He’s just a plainspoke, rootin’ tootin’ freedom fighter, come to clean up this whole damn town of the Moslem menace.
You know. A moron.*
* I nearly spelled this “moran” by accident.
Indacloset Jones looks vaguely like Tommy Lee Jones as a Village Person. It’s a shame, because normally such a person would be my hero.
You need an orphan opposite the banker.
Indacloset Jones
golfclap!
he said that he could not understand why other Christians, including the nation’s largest evangelical association, had called for him to cancel “International Burn a Koran Day.”
Oh, what a big mystery! Maybe it’s that sign from God you said you were looking for? Nah–it’s just that everyone knows you’re a fucking born loser and will end up alone somewhere, angrily eating crackers and cheese until you finally have that accident while cleaning your gun.
Indacloset Jones
That’s too awesome for words.
Correction, orphan-collecting guy (insert Catholic joke).
So, just to say the obvious, Park51 and KoranBurnings R Us have both gotten way, way the fuck too much attention in the media.
For Park51, it’s obvious, there’s nothing more going on here than when a YMCA’s built and it’s ridiculous to act as if there is.
For Reverend Pastor Nathan Bedford Jones, the event simply doesn’t justify the amount of attention (positive and negative) it’s gotten in the media. I mean… according to one of my best friends from Western PA, one of the towns near where he grows up has a huge KKK rally every year with racists pouring in from all over the nation (to the fury of local residents, mostly). Have you ever heard of it? I’m guessing not, because neither the national media nor the politicians ever paid any attention to it. You know why? Because if we were to report it every time a bunch of hillbillies and frat boys decided to do something incredibly offensive, no one would have enough airtime to keep up.
How much more smoothly would shit run if the powers that be had enough sense to deny these idiots the coverage they crave?
http://www.examiner.com/islam-in-san-diego/america-responds-to-islamophobia
Little rays of hope in what’s been a pretty dark situation.
How much more smoothly would shit run if the powers that be had enough sense to deny these idiots the coverage they crave?
Not to sound all Spooky Mulderish but I’m pretty sure the powers that be have enough sense to keep giving these carnival barkers and freakshow menageries all the coverage they can handle while the real horror shows (the Catfood Commissions and the like) carry on with the Important Business in blissful obscurity. I’d say shit is running very smoothly, very smoothly indeed.
What about hoto?
[KKK rally] Have you ever heard of it?
Why yes, yes I have. I “grew up” in that same neck of the woods.
Not to sound all Spooky Mulderish but I’m pretty sure the powers that be have enough sense to keep giving these carnival barkers and freakshow menageries all the coverage they can handle while the real horror shows (the Catfood Commissions and the like) carry on with the Important Business in blissful obscurity. I’d say shit is running very smoothly, very smoothly indeed.
Yeah, I agree, actually.
Furthermore, keeping people divided and scared is also a way to maintain/gain power.
And Spooky Mulder is hot.
How much more smoothly would shit run if the powers that be had enough sense to deny these idiots the coverage they crave?
Or, at very least, stop talking about the “mosque at ground zero” controversy. Even NPR did that at first. Pisses me right the fuck off.
Why yes, yes I have. I “grew up” in that same neck of the woods.
Really? Good show.
My friend was born in Titusville and grew up in Erie… not sure which of these cities the rallies happen in, or if it’s in a third city whose name I don’t remember.
If korans are burned in Florida by some moron preacher, the terrorists will get new recruits.
The whole point of this guy’s bullshit organization is to be the face of American Christianity to the world, so don’t act all surprised when some do, you enormous fucking tool. And don’t act like you’re not the exact same type of Christian, either. Asshole.
Or, at very least, stop talking about the “mosque at ground zero” controversy. Even NPR did that at first. Pisses me right the fuck off.
They’re just trying to report “both sides.” It’s impossible to truly know if it’s a mosque or not. They’re just being fair!
Is there a difference between gay and queer? I’m confused.
And what about the Inverts???
“It’s people! GLBTQFRBNWÆ is people!”
And what about the Inverts???
We call them “Urnings” now, dear. Do try to keep up.
Wouldn’t it be deliciously ironic if Pastor Terry Jones after meeting with Iman Rauf came out in support of the Islamic community center?
I was going to add that The Queers already ruined a perfectly good Angry Samoans song, but I actually sort of liked their cover of My Old Man’s a Fatso.
Both taste like chicken.
Wouldn’t it be deliciously ironic if Pastor Terry Jones after meeting with Iman Rauf came out in support of the Islamic community center?
I think he’s much too hopelessly stubborn for that.
On a cheerier note (well, I think it’s cheerier), anybody else read about the Muslim gargoyle on the cathedral in Lyon?
If I were a stonemason I’d love having someone do that for me.
Rats, did WordPress eat my last post?
Well… I was about seventeen and some mates and me went to a party, and, er… we had quite a lot to drink… and then some of the fellows there … started handing … cheese around … and well just out of curiosity I tried a bit … and well that was that.
Mmhmm. I suppose you didn’t inhale it?
I can vouch for this. The young ones do, anyway.
The whole point of this guy’s bullshit organization is to be the face of American Christianity to the world, thereby proving that Christianity is truly the religion of peace.
Wouldn’t it be deliciously ironic if Pastor Terry Jones after meeting with Iman Rauf came out in support of the Islamic community center?
Not as delicious as Jonesy getting struck by lightning.
Fucking hate conservative cousins who like to stir shit.
Motherfucker, I haven’t talked to you since I was 8, and the two times you’ve deigned to talk to me, you’ve started shit on my Facebook page because you think I’m a whiny liberal.
Facebook users are jerks, another study confirms
LOL. and ¬_¬
Facebook users are jerks, another study confirms
Well, of course they are.
Especially the ones who post pictures of their kids taking poo poos in the big boy potty!
Q: qat, qi, qis, qats
My favorite scrabble words.
Hah! Scrabble, the ultimate thread killer. Suck it, tsam!
actor212: I remember watching Tom Wilkinson in that George Clooney movie…Michael Clayton?…and being amazed …
I’m amazed every time I see Tom Wilkinson do anything. He is one of the greatest actors I’ve ever seen and I’m so happy he’s getting some of the recognition (and paydays) he deserves.
Wouldn’t it be deliciously ironic if Pastor Terry Jones after meeting with Iman Rauf came out in support of the Islamic community center?
I would be so jazzed. That’d be the best turnaround since the Chief Blue Meanie caught a clue.
I would be so jazzed. That’d be the best turnaround since the Chief Blue Meanie caught a clue.
A case of spontaneous combustion on Jones’ part would prove to me that Spag is all powerful.
And what about the Inverts???
Inverts?
It’s the bigning of the end for Amarica. LET THE BIGNING BEGUNG!
I feel embiggened.
All of their bigning are belong to us.
The guys from the non-functioning country should know.
Especially the ones who post pictures of their kids taking poo poos in the big boy potty!
Lucianne did that just the other day. Jonah was pissed.
And now Pastor Dipshit is saying the imams lied to him and he might just burn those Qu’rans anyway to show them.
Spiteful little attention whore.
[tries a third time to post a news story]
What does WordPress have against gargoyles, anyway?
What does WordPress have against gargoyles, anyway?
Nothing.
I know, I’m whoring. But at least I was [indirectly] asked.
Well, they spell about as poorly as the teatards, but their lettering is quite neat.
Came to post that.
Twunt saw his moment in the spotlight slipping away. I wonder when he’ll start proposing the burning of actual Muslims.
Crispin C. said,
September 10, 2010 at 0:56
I was going to add that The Queers already ruined a perfectly good Angry Samoans song, but I actually sort of liked their cover of My Old Man’s a Fatso.
Talk about ruining ….The old man in the trailer park told me all about what the queers are doing to the soil.
Pffft. You call that a gargoyle? Margaret Bourke White knows a gargoyle. She Really does.
Pffft. You call that a gargoyle?
You wanna play Knivesy-spoonsy?
Hah! Scrabble, the ultimate thread killer. Suck it, tsam!
I wasn’t even here–no fair!
DAE get the impression that between the FBI visit, Petraeus, the tightie righties joinging the “don’t do it” bandwagon and possibly some other crap, slave wage tax evader Pastor Jooones is scrambling to make a silk purse out of that sows ear he cut off? I sure hope that’s the case. He sure seems to be scrambling and dancing. That’s a good thing.
Hmmm… what the @#&%X ! am I going to do with all these goddamn Quorans I spent al the titings on.
Maybe I can sell them to the queers.
Sure enough – most of the PJTV comments are that this proves a double standard and bias in the media when it comes to different religions. Because, you know, building a Muslim YMCA in which you promise prayer rooms available for people of all religions is exactly the same as burning the books of a specific religion and we should react in exactly the same way to both of these things.
Christ, I hate these people so much. And reading the more “serious,” reflective comment on their threads makes my head spin. They spend all day absorbing bullshit like “Rauf loves terrorism,” “the left wing support al Qaeda” and all that… but then, bless their little hearts, they actually have arguments and discussions about what it all means, what can explain the things they think are true, how this one piece of bullshit sheds light on this other piece of bullshit… It’s surreal. It’s like I’m watching people use Star Trek as a how-to manual to build a spaceship, and actually expecting it to fly. I don’t even know where to begin addressing people who’re that far gone.
If I had the time, I would print the Quran on an American flag. Just to watch some heads explode.
He sure seems to be scrambling and dancing.
He dances like a dumb white guy.
Spiteful little attention whore.
The thing I got from that article was the guy still seems to regard Muslims as a monolithic organization.
“Why wouldn’t the Muslim building the YMMA up there back the misunderstanding I had about what the Muslim down here in Florida was telling me? Clearly they are dealing in the tariqya shit I dun heard about!”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gays_in_military
WIN
Basically, here’s how I picture it.
Imam in Central Florida: “Hey pastor, listen. This whole burning my holy book thing over the YMMA they’re building in New York is silly and really rather insenstive. How about you postpone it, and we can get together and talk about this as a group, y’know.”
Pastor “Not That” Terry Jones: “You mean if I postpone the book-burning, you’ll move the Ground Zero mosque? Hot damn, I’m a brilliant stategist!”
Imam in Central Florida, Imam in New York and Imam in New York’s Wife: “What? No! We aren’t moving the YMMA, we just want to talk to you about this book-burning you’re set to do.”
Pastor Creasote: “You tricky bastards! You were probably only trying to get me to your death-mosque, chain me to a rack to tear out my heart like that scene in Temple of Doom! Your Kali Ma won’t go getting me, by jingo! Burning’s back on!”
Imams and me: “Motherfuck.”
DADT you MY bitch now. Get me some fries nigger.
I just downloaded the Quran. And deleted it! BWAHAHAHAHA that’ll show them!
St. Trotsky – needs moar facepalm.
tsam sux as thredkillah. PM r00lz!
I just was writing dialogue, not stage direction. Also, I am so completely pleased with myself over the Kali Ma joke. Seriously.
tsam sux as thredkillah. PM r00lz!
Ha! I’m West coast, yo. I can outlast any of ya.
I know, I’m whoring. But at least I was [indirectly] asked.
Very nice, actually.
But since I seem to fail at posting the story I wanted to post, do a google for “Muslim gargoyle”. In short: a Muslim stonemason who has been helping to restore a cathedral in Lyon since 1974 got immortalized with his own gargoyle– done as a humorous caricature of him– on the cathedral walls, with a scroll saying “God is great” in Arabic and French. A few local wingnuts object, but their complaints are being treated just as seriously as they deserve to be.
I think it’s pretty awesome. If I were a stonemason, I’d be rather flattered if they put up a gargoyle (or grotesque, which are the non-waterspout kind) of me.
(Should clarify: the cathedral in question is in Lyon, France– St. Jean.)
Huh. So maybe the Log Cabin Republicans aren’t totally useless after all.
Knock me over with a fucking feather.
Oh, and since I have the floor:
This week, I’ve discovered that one friend died of pancreatic cancer (I didn’t even know he was sick) and another is in the hospital after a heart attack.
My Xtian sister, who for reasons unknown friended me on facebook, has good news about her daughter, because said daughter doesn’t have to have a C-section; hooray, the baby flipped all by itself. Her final comment: we serve a MIGHTY GOD.
I have to ask. Is the MIGHTY GOD who flipped her grandchild the same one who killed my friend? Is it the same one who stopped my other friend’s heart? Because while that might be a MIGHTY GOD, I personally am not MIGHTY IMPRESSED. I guess I’m just selfish that way.
Thanks for reading. I’m going to bed.
tsam said,
September 10, 2010 at 5:48
tsam sux as thredkillah. PM r00lz!
Ha! I’m West coast, yo. I can outlast any of ya.
No. You can’t outlast a ROBOT.
Aaaaaand, just to prove that Pastor Jones isn’t the nuttiest fruitcake under the tree, we have this fella.
Well, at least he’s honest about it.
Also, Honey? Fetch the defibrillator. Fox News gets one right.
Hmmm… do the words “an’ everything” added to the end of every sentence or fragment thereof mean anything to you?
*Whew* Well, at least we know the dude isn’t from Pittsburgh. N’ at.
GO STILLERS!!!!
Everytime I hear Hugh Laurie speak in his native British, I’m astounded at how well he does an American accent on the TeeVee…
I am too, initially. Then I remember how many American actors fake British accents (with varying results), and remember that it’s not any different. Then I wonder why I’m so astounded by such a thing.
Eons too late to answer, BUT: no, it doesn’t work as well the other way ’round. It has something to do with how the different dialects develop the mouth and tongue muscles…differently. It is, I think, physically easier for an American to speak like a Yorkshireman than for a Yorkshireman to speak like an American.
I’m probably wrong, but I have it in my head that many British actors will often play American characters that speak with…how to put this? With accents that have a “hook,” something fairly easy to grasp. Southern accents, of course, but also Jersey/Soprano or maybe some Fargo-speak. Standard (transatlantic?) American English with all those final “r’s” must be an absolute bitch.
Best American-speaking Brit? Jamie Bamber, BSG’s own Captain Apollo. An accent so good I thought he was midwestern…
@ Yinzer:
Mark Addy’s pretty good, too. And Melanie Lynskey. She’s a Kiwi, of course, but still…
Thank you, Mr. Very Reverend, I’ll have to check them out.
I will admit to a terrific jealousy of people who have a way with accents, for I have none. Zero. Null. Here’s the thing: I speak French. I don’t have the fluency of a native, but the natives think I Do Well Enough. And I “look” French, however that can possibly be defined (example: the first for fifteen minutes I was in Paris, in full cultural meltdown and with only a feeble grasp of the language, I was asked for directions by two different Parisians.) But the moment I open my mouth and speak in my Well Enough French?
“Oh, and what part of England are you from?”
Broadest. Stereotypical. Anglo. Accent. Ever.
(For the record, I am not English–it’s just that, just as Anglos cannot distinguish between different French accents, the French cannot tell the difference between a Canadian and an Australian. I’m pale and blonde and thus must be English, yes???)
Suddenly feels insane dislike of Meryl Streep
John J. Miller chats to Richard Lowry.
If I were a stonemason, I’d be rather flattered if they put up a gargoyle (or grotesque, which are the non-waterspout kind) of me.
It’s tradition. [Cue Fiddler on the Roof music…]
…rassin frassin close tags…
Terry Jones is now saying the Quran burning is only suspended now. *sigh*
Burning suspended books is difficult. If the rope catches fire, you’ve got flaming pages* everywhere.
*Veiled Senate reference.
“Burning suspended books is difficult. ”
Not if you’re a witch like me.
So the Minister of Assholishness is named Terry Jones and the Queen of Alaska is named Palin. Can I look forward to a lunatic right-wing Basil Fawlty?
All I know is I wanna shove French fries up their noses and eat their fishies.
Guess this guy’s never heard of decaf
So now, Pastor Loco appears to be saying he’ll cancel the Koran burning but only if the Ground Zero Imam meets with him.
Yeah, this whole thing was definitely a setup.
Will Poopy turn religious now?
(teasing, but a fascinating story nonetheless)
So the Minister of Assholishness is named Terry Jones and the Queen of Alaska is named Palin. Can I look forward to a lunatic right-wing Basil Fawlty?
Palin wasn’t in Fawlty, unless he did a guest shot.
I think, physically easier for an American to speak like a Yorkshireman than for a Yorkshireman to speak like an American.
Probably, but don’t ever ask me to do East Anglia. I can’t for the life of me understand what the fuck they’re saying much less imitate how they say it. It’s a whole other language to my ear.
Now, Newcastle, thut Oi kin due.
Guess this guy’s never heard of decaf
Poor boy learned about YouTube the hard way (“what’s a yootoob?”)
“what’s a yootoob?”
Who Uncle Vinnie was defending. [/Carnak]
Wouldn’t it be deliciously ironic if Pastor Terry Jones after meeting with Iman Rauf came out
in support of the Islamic community center?as a surprise couple together on the season finale of Dancing with the Stars!My favorite moment is the one where solemn media spokespeople discuss whether it’s appropriate to give Terry Jones publicity, all the while showing pictures of Terry Jones.
Queen! Well, it’s only off by one ltter.
This week, I’ve discovered that one friend died of pancreatic cancer (I didn’t even know he was sick) and another is in the hospital after a heart attack.
Sorry to hear that, WC. Holding up ok?
My favorite moment is the one where solemn media spokespeople discuss whether it’s appropriate to give Terry Jones publicity, all the while showing pictures of Terry Jones.
Public self examination by the media is always hilarious. It’s like the Three Stooges trying to figure out why they’re always sore and tired, but resolve that all the super cool stuff they do is exactly what they should be doing.
Moar Queen, just for our dear friend PM!
Enjoy.
I’m standing in line at the sto’ and my flip flops just fell apart. This should be interesting…
With all the attention that old and new media are giving to the story it’s not easy to continue not giving a fuck if some wingnut preacher burns some books and if some other group of religious nuts gets pissed off about it. So far I’m hanging in there but I’m not sure how long I can hold out. This Terry Jones asshole is the most successful troll in recent memory.
Eons too late to answer, BUT: no, it doesn’t work as well the other way ’round. It has something to do with how the different dialects develop the mouth and tongue muscles…differently. It is, I think, physically easier for an American to speak like a Yorkshireman than for a Yorkshireman to speak like an American.
I’m probably wrong, but I have it in my head that many British actors will often play American characters that speak with…how to put this? With accents that have a “hook,” something fairly easy to grasp. Southern accents, of course, but also Jersey/Soprano or maybe some Fargo-speak. Standard (transatlantic?) American English with all those final “r’s” must be an absolute bitch.
Well Dr. House has it right nailed. Aussies and Kiwis (like Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe) do it pretty well, but you can always pick up a little bit of the old accent. I actually like hearing that slight bit of accent. It sounds cool. I imagine Irish people have the hardest time faking an American accent. After watching the most excellent move The Commitments (I highly recommend it, especially for musicians), I realized that the Irish talk all wrong.
I’m standing in line at the sto’ and my flip flops just fell apart. This should be interesting…
No shoes, no shirt.
With all the attention that old and new media are giving to the story it’s not easy to continue not giving a fuck if some wingnut preacher burns some books and if some other group of religious nuts gets pissed off about it. So far I’m hanging in there but I’m not sure how long I can hold out. This Terry Jones asshole is the most successful troll in recent memory.
I agree–except that I’m getting sick and tired of politicians using our military as political pawns. They’re in danger because they’re occupying two countries that don’t want us there.
At this point, I’m hoping the asshole does it. Then I would like (a pony) the Dumbocrats to hang that shit around the necks of the Repukes from that moment until election day. Here’s to hoping but having little faith that things will work out that way. Or that voters are smart enough to punish those fucking morons for acting that way and tolerating that shit from their kind.
It’s hard to imagine that in a nation of 330 million people, an insignificant little gnat like this assclown in Florida could conceivably paint the United States as a nation of rabid hatemongerers.
But he’s managing to do it.
It’s not like we had the greatest image in the world, nevermind the Muslim world, but the election of Obama had gone a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng way to repairing the damage of the past decade.
And one shit-head criminal can undo all that with a lighter and a book.
[1.] No shoes, no shirt.
2. And no ticket, no shirt.
3. Therefore, no shoes, no ticket.
4. Profit!
I dragged my other flip-flop behind me ’til I got out to the parking lot, then took off my shoes altogether. I was wearing both a shirt and shoes…technically!
Miller’s the moron who wrote a two part series on “conservative” rock songs. He’s a total tool.
[1.] No shoes, no shirt.
2. And no ticket, no shirt.
I always thought it was “No shoes, no shirt, no cervix”?
This is the aspect of the story that upsets me the most.
I dragged my other flip-flop behind me ’til I got out to the parking lot, then took off my shoes altogether.
A tale that would have Tiny Tim* weeping in sympathy.
*From a Christmas Carol, you VPR preverts.
I was definitely feelin’ pretty white trash. Especially since I was in Wal-Mart.
It’s hard to imagine that in a nation of 330 million people, an insignificant little gnat like this assclown in Florida could conceivably paint the United States as a nation of rabid hatemongerers.
But he’s managing to do it.
Look what a fantastic job the fuckfaced right has done in painting the entire Muslim world as rabid, violent fanatics. Exploiting stupidity isn’t a difficult task.
Exploiting stupidity isn’t a difficult task
Yea, except it’s the rest of the world, and not America, that’s being exploited. We presume they aren’t as stupid as we are.
I was definitely feelin’ pretty white trash. Especially since I was in Wal-Mart.
Can we look forward to seeing you featured in People of Wal-Mart?
I meant to say that 19 guys plus some logistical and financial support from a small group committed the 9/11 attacks. Hardly a fair representation of Islam. But there’s a pretty strong anti-Muslim sentiment here, at the moment. Parts of the world where Islam dominates has a roughly equal number of dumbfucks who believe that religion is a fair way to judge a person or a nation.
Yea, except it’s the rest of the world, and not America, that’s being exploited. We presume they aren’t as stupid as we are.
Careful there.
I’ve seen that blog. I’ve seen the people featured in it. I’d like to think I don’t fit in that well.
And not for nothin’, but before I got there, the nail technician informed me that I was “beautiful” and “looked so pretty today.” She also said it last time I was getting my eyebrows waxed. Maybe she digs chicks with unibrows.
And one shit-head criminal can undo all that with a lighter and a book.
One shit-head would have a much harder time if it weren’t for all the other shit-heads encouraging this kind of behavior. Many of those idiots are singing a different tune now that it is obviously a political liability to support this clown. But we would not have reached this point if there were not so many idiots (and Fox News) among us.
I meant to say that 19 guys plus some logistical and financial support from a small group committed the 9/11 attacks. Hardly a fair representation of Islam.
There is, I’m sad to say, a view of Islam that predates 9/11. There are two billion Muslims in the world. Of those two billion, about….two billion…are just trying to survive to the next meal, just like there are….330 million Americans who in point of fact could really care less if their next door neighbor is Muslim, Christian or aliens from Planet Zebula IV.
It’s only when they’re MADE to care by asshats like this pastor that trouble starts.
One shit-head would have a much harder time if it weren’t for all the other shit-heads encouraging this kind of behavior.
Can’t argue with that. I’ve worked hard on my blog to talk about this story without linking to or mentioning him directly. I’ve been as successful as I could have been, but I’m a tiny speck of dust in a desert of blowing sand.
We presume they aren’t as stupid as we are.
Careful there.
Most Americans couldn’t find England on a map if you spotted them “Northern Europe” and “island.” I presume that is lower than the intelligence level of your average Mancs O level.
Yea, except it’s the rest of the world, and not America, that’s being exploited. We presume they aren’t as stupid as we are.
I don’t know. It sure doesn’t help that certain “News” channels give an unrestricted and unchallenged platform from which to lie and spew hate filled rhetoric. It’s hard to make an informed judgement when all you see on national media is a bunch of cunts throwing epic temper tantrums about a fucking community center that’s too close to Ground Zero for their liking, and fabricating this “specter” of Islam that’s trying to destroy our society and blah blah fucking blah. Normal people here don’t have a voice in media or government. We’re relegated to writing blogs that few people read, and arguing on the interwebz.
Also, another good argument for population control:
Saying that 10% of Americans are shit-heads doesn’t sound so bad, but when you do the math to find out that comes to over 30 million people…well, that’s a bit scary. Where are those death panels we were promised?
Normal people here don’t have a voice in media or government. We’re relegated to writing blogs that few people read, and arguing on the interwebz.
One thing I really enjoy about most countries I’ve visited is, there’s no pretense to objectivity in the news media. If you buy the Guardian in England, you know you’re reading a liberal newspaper. If you buy the Sun, you’re reading a conservative paper.
And if you want the news straight up, the BBC will give it to you, only slightly biased but with as much fairness as they can muster (after all, they hired Greg Palast). They don’t give you five second blips about a fire in California, they’ll give you ninety seconds about why it started, who died, and whether its likely to be put out by the time you tune in next.
Here, I really wish networks would drop the pretense, and just admit it: Fox is conservative. MSNBC/NBC is centrist-left. CNN tries to be center while playing both sides against the middle. CBS is a corporate tool. ABC doesn’t want to offend anyone.
And so on.
Especially since that 10% seems to miraculously control the debate and agenda. Those fuckers wield way more power than they should.
Saying that 10% of Americans are shit-heads doesn’t sound so bad, but when you do the math to find out that comes to over 30 million people…well, that’s a bit scary.
What’s even scarier is you could divide that by ten and still have a viable voice in American society. According to the “official” Tea Party website, there are 150,000 Teabaggers, if you count the people who are committed enough to sign a petition to repeal health care reform. But let’s call them the tip of the iceberg.
Then you’re talking about 1.5 million. 1.5 million are trying to co-opt the nation of 330 million.
Especially since that 10% seems to miraculously control the debate and agenda. Those fuckers wield way more power than they should.
And we’re right back to People of Walmart.
There is, I’m sad to say, a view of Islam that predates 9/11
Well, yeah. That view is as old as Christianity itself. But there’s no doubt that since 9/11 it had gotten bad, and in the last few months it has become dangerous.
Then you’re talking about 1.5 million. 1.5 million are trying to co-opt the nation of 330 million.
Hah. It’s a lot smaller than that. Its a group of wealthy assholes, like the Koch brothers, who give the Tea Party the air time and venues for their rallies. do you think there would be 1.5 million Tea Partiers without the constant media attention focused on a bunch of people who, with months of preparation and millions of dollars in publicity, couldn’t put as many people in front of the Lincoln Memorial as Michigan football puts in a stadium for an out of conference game?
Yo.
MSN.com is calling Mr. “Incite Violence” Jones “embattled”. Last time I looked, you used that word for someone who was being oppressed, who hadn’t BROUGHT THE WHOLE THING ON HIS OWN HEAD.
God, what a creep. And he’s going to NYC, undoubtedly for 9/11. Just what we need.
Also when they compare the crowd that Beck drew to the crowd that King drew they never mention the fact that Beck has 120 million more people to draw from and all those people have access to much faster and efficient transportation. And then there’s the fact that Beck had several millions of dollars worth of radio and tv air time to advertise the event on.
“Yo.
MSN.com is calling Mr. “Incite Violence” Jones “embattled”. Last time I looked, you used that word for someone who was being oppressed, who hadn’t BROUGHT THE WHOLE THING ON HIS OWN HEAD.”
Yeeeeeeah, that is a strange word choice.
And he’s going to NYC, undoubtedly for 9/11.
Why do I have a hard time picturing him patronizing any of the fine business establishments on Park Place other than the strip club?
Especially since that 10% seems to miraculously control the debate and agenda. Those fuckers wield way more power than they should.
That’s why I truly believe that those who don’t fall into that category of people just trying to get by in life should be killed. They value their own wealth and power over human life and they are directly responsible for every war, every atrocity, all of the poverty and resulting pestilence, crime and squalor. They don’t deserve to live. They really don’t.
Especially since that 10% seems to miraculously control the debate and agenda. Those fuckers wield way more power than they should
Like the saying goes: the psycho-frothing-sputtering-raging-whining-fapping wheel gets the grease.
So grease* them…
(VERR) Veiled eliminationist rhetoric reference. Glenn is going to be so upset.
Yeeeeeeah, that is a strange word choice.
Especially when the whole thing has been a creation of the dumbass media, giving this assclown an international voice he should never have had.
Why do I have a hard time picturing him patronizing any of the fine business establishments on Park Place other than the strip club?
I’m sure he’ll hunt down the nearest KFC and crow on about how he’s experienced the NYC life.
Yeeeeeeah, that is a strange word choice.
I would call it more disgusting that strange. Embattled carries an implication that he is something other than a useless piece of shit who needs to go to hell and die.
So grease* them…
Take ’em for a one way ride.
tsam ANGRY TODAY
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Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
I’m standing with Uncle Howard on this one- I prefer the word outré, or maybe even eldritch.
Won the thread with comment #2. The rest of you, try harder. Electrons are not free. I mean if they’re independent electrons moving in a vacuum they’re obviously free, but then they’re probably also Libertarians, so they won’t do anything useful.
Embattled is also how they described that mayor of Detroit who resigned after having an affair with one of his co-workers. I don’t get the same sense of outrage as you for that word choice.
PS I’m with tsam on this one. If you want to determine what the problem is, look at whose means infinitely outstrip their needs. Gather these persons and saw off their heads. See if things start to work better for mankind. It will.
“Especially when the whole thing has been a creation of the dumbass media, giving this assclown an international voice he should never have had.”
Til recently I’ve been torn about using sunshine disinfectant in these freaks or ignoring them entirely. More and more I come down on the side of ignoringthem.
Most Americans couldn’t find England on a map if you spotted them “Northern Europe” and “island.” I presume that is lower than the intelligence level of your average Mancs O level.
We’re not less intelligent than Europeans or other such people, just more ignorant. Kept that way by media, political and educational bodies that pander to the lowest common denominator. Okay, the nationalism, groupthink, identity politics and whatnot over here makes it easier for the elites to lead people around by the nose.
But America has no monopoly on that. True, the average Frenchman can actually find Iran on a map (while the average American couldn’t even find Ottawa), but he’s no closer to considering the people who live there human or deserving of equal treatment. Look at your own blog post of today for and that line about Roma, for example.
Embattled is also how they described that mayor of Detroit who resigned after having an affair with one of his co-workers.
To be fair, that may have been a veiled crabs reference.
“Like the saying goes: the psycho-frothing-sputtering-raging-whining-fapping wheel gets the grease.”
Yup. What’s worse is that the media won’t come out and say what they really are: hateful ignoramuses.
Electrons are not free. I mean if they’re independent electrons moving in a vacuum they’re obviously free, but then they’re probably also Libertarians, so they won’t do anything useful.
Oh? You know, that porn doesn’t download itself…
True, the average Frenchman can actually find Iran on a map (while the average American couldn’t even find Ottawa), but he’s no closer to considering the people who live there human or deserving of equal treatment. Look at your own blog post of today for and that line about Roma, for example.
The sense I get is that the strain of idiocy in France is much weaker than the strain of idiocy in America.
I could be wrong. I’ve never lived in any other country, so I can’t say I’ve had the chance to study up hard on this stuff. But I hang out in bars. Lots of bars. And I mean outside of London (or Paris or what have you). I tend to meet people the average tourist does not.
Sure. There’s ignorance and hate and yes, the French are way out of line picking on the Roma. Still, I doubt anyone is burning Romanian flags in the Alsace.
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tsam ANGRY TODAY”
You and The Hulk. Me, I was kinda in a good mood earlier, but it seems to be slipping away. When can I have some wine? In the meantime I’ll have some whine.
the zeppo of monty python.
You need an orphan opposite the banker.
Fuckin Libertarins troll!
Yeeeeeeah, that is a strange word choice.
Not really. We tend to put an emotional spin, as if it somehow implies he’s oppressed. All it really means is, the guy’s hostile.
I think this is one of those words, like “problematic” that has a perfectly good meaning that people are too fucking lazy to look up and use properly, so they invent a new meaning.
Til recently I’ve been torn about using sunshine disinfectant in these freaks or ignoring them entirely. More and more I come down on the side of ignoringthem.
Yo tambien.
My aunt decided to listen to talk radio for some reason this morning. She says the new rightwing fit throwing is over how Obama hasn’t had a beer summit between that ignorant-ass Koran-burning motherfucker and Imam Rauf. I guess they don’t know that dirty muzzies don’t drink alcohol?
(I was too lazy to read most of the thread, so if someone already said this, lo siento).
The trouble with ignoring htem after they’ve become exposed is, there’s an appearance that no one is opposing them, which gives validity that this is a more generally held sentiment.
Oh, I forgot — go look at this so Huffington Post thinks I’m popular. Make witty supportive comments or something. It’s not Shakespeare, but seeing as I’m unemployed, it had better get some traction.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-tripp/on-rising-again_b_709001.html
Jesus, I’m a one-man PR machine.
(while the average American couldn’t even find Ottawa)
Oooh! Oooh!! I know that one!!! That was the capital of the Ottowan Empire. Famous for their turkeys and constant opels. That’s not far fron Anchorage, right?
“Not really. We tend to put an emotional spin, as if it somehow implies he’s oppressed. All it really means is, the guy’s hostile.”
It may not be a strange word choice to you or even to me, but I do think it conjures for many-rightly or wrongly-an image of victimization. I will agree you can probably accurately describe him as embattled. I’m just not sure you should.
The trouble with ignoring htem after they’ve become exposed is, there’s an appearance that no one is opposing them, which gives validity that this is a more generally held sentiment.
I’m for “ignoring” them in the sense of the media not reporting them. Like that Klan rally in PA. Politicians on the national level who say shit like Gingrich and Palin have should be opposed, but this idiot’s not worth the trouble.
there’s an appearance that no one is opposing them, which gives validity that this is a more generally held sentiment.
To Actor’s point, that’s the trouble — sunshine exposes the crazy, but then it has to be called out as crazy. Otherwise the Overton Window creeps along until it appears to be the source of the sunshine, and what was crazy previously becomes mainstream thereafter.
The media WILL NOT call a spade a spade, unless it’s an African Negro person.
You see what I did there.
We’re not less intelligent than Europeans or other such people, just more ignorant
Based on my own observation (which, admittedly is an opinion formulated from media reports), racism in Europe is a far bigger problem than it is here. It goes as far as bananas being thrown on soccer fields at non-white players. I think American ignorance is largely willful in nature, based on indoctrination that purports the idea that we’re just the greatest place in the whole wide world. I suppose that problem exists in Europe as well, but I think it’s a bit stupid to assume that we’re worse than anyone else. We want to call Europeans smarter because they’re social structures make a conscientious effort to leave nobody behind. But then again, the racism there is more blatant than it is here. I guess it’s best to remember that they’re human too.
You see what I did there.
See, this is why I bothered to read your HuffPo piece…
Also, too: “embattled” absolutely suggests a David and Goliath type of conflict. 2¢.
“To Actor’s point, that’s the trouble — sunshine exposes the crazy, but then it has to be called out as crazy. Otherwise the Overton Window creeps along until it appears to be the source of the sunshine, and what was crazy previously becomes mainstream thereafter.
The media WILL NOT call a spade a spade, unless it’s an African Negro person.”
Exactly.
That was the capital of the Ottowan Empire. Famous for their turkeys and constant opels
They made really crappy cars?
Sigh… I’m reminded of the end of Earth (David Brin), when newborn Gaia snuffs a few dozen irredeemables out of existance. David Brin is an optimist about human nature though.
Collapse talked a lot about how the population pressures on resources in Rwanda led up to the genocide. Our primary resource, money (from which nearly all other resources derive for us), is becoming scarce to the bulk of the population. Like in Rwanda, the people who have the bulk of that resource are setting one poor group against another poor against each other; as if removing all of the black/muslims/mexicans/whatever would really free up any more jobs that people need to make money.
We have the same kinds of people leading on the right, the ones who would unleash a civil war if they could make a buck off of it. the window of rhetoric just seems to move closer and closer to it every week; we already have plenty of people talking about using their “second amendment rights” to “fix” things, including national leaders on the right.
Meanwhile, we really do have too many people in the world for the planet to sustain, and we can’t even talk about the real problems stemming from it like global warming, pollution, food, water and energy. The leaders that seem like they should recognize this don’t even try.
It does make me wonder sometimes if there isn’t a grand conspiracy at the top that knows a true global fuck-over is coming, and that they have already surrendered to it as inevitable and are just trying to gather as much as they can for the survivors, who will essentially self-select based on wealth. Or maybe they hope for wars to slow the world economies and reduce populations. I have trouble believing that anything like that could really remain secret, since the bulk of those in the know would be type A narcissists and would gladly spill the beans on each other over any little slight.
But it’s hard to figure out why we are focussed on so much trivial and stupid shit with so few voices of reason calling out.
It does make me wonder sometimes if there isn’t a grand conspiracy at the top that knows a true global fuck-over is coming, and that they have already surrendered to it as inevitable and are just trying to gather as much as they can for the survivors, who will essentially self-select based on wealth.
A kind of “New World Order”?
Let’s call them, oh I don’t know…the Bilderbergs, for want of a better name…
We have the same kinds of people leading on the right, the ones who would unleash a civil war if they could make a buck off of it. the window of rhetoric just seems to move closer and closer to it every week; we already have plenty of people talking about using their “second amendment rights” to “fix” things, including national leaders on the right.
Eh, you need people to fight to have a civil war. The liberals would probably keep going “can’t we all just get along” for as long as possible – no civil war happening on that side. And the conservatives, just because they dress in revolutionary-style drag doesn’t mean they have anything close to revolutionary-style balls. They’re chickenshits. That’s why they’re fighting Islam at home by burning Korans in a state with no Muslims instead of fighting it overseas with a gun and an actual risk of injury.
It’s really difficult, if not impossible, for Scots to speak with an American accent. I’ll give them a pass though since they don’t speak English in the first place.
Not that I believe the Bilderbergs are running the world, no sirreee! And I’m sure they don’t have each and every keyboard in the world running thru their database screens, nope! Not me! I was just speculating on stuff I’ve heard, like how Margaret Thatcher was ejected from the PM’s office after she pissed them off one year…
Chris, I agree with you. It’s all bluster.
The media though will never come out and call a assbag like Mr. Jones “crazy”, even though he plainly is – it’d violate their sainted objectivity.
But when they use terms like “embattled” it’s editorializing. This guy isn’t “embattled” for any reason other than his own dumbass actions. Using that term gives him a sense of sympathy which he totally hasn’t earned and doesn’t deserve.
BTW he said yesterday he’d hold off on burning the Quran if Cordoba House was moved – that shows you right there where the guy’s coming from.
No shoes, no shirt.
I’m guessing that if VS came around here with no shoes and no shirt, there would be all kinds of offers to service her.
Sorry to hear that, WC. Holding up ok?
Thanks for asking. I’m kind of gobstopped about the heart attack. The guy is about my age, takes good care of himself, not overweight, cyclist…he was playing squash when it happened. WTF do you have to do?
Otherwise, yeah, I’m fine.
That was the capital of the Ottowan Empire.
Win.
This guy isn’t “embattled” for any reason other than his own dumbass actions.
Like Clinton was embattled for Lewinski.
It’s a crappy word because of the connotations we put on it, but it’s not objectively incorrect. The guy is combative, to be sure. At best, the word is ambiguous and probably should be set aside in this instance.
And the conservatives, just because they dress in revolutionary-style drag doesn’t mean they have anything close to revolutionary-style balls. They’re chickenshits. That’s why they’re fighting Islam at home by burning Korans in a state with no Muslims instead of fighting it overseas with a gun and an actual risk of injury.
Agreed, but it’s the lone-wolf single-person-cell nuts like McVeigh that we need to worry about, and what’s coming from the Republican side lately is empowering to people like that., people who might have convinced themselves that an action they take might start that civil war. Like maybe blowing up a government building.
The guy is about my age, takes good care of himself, not overweight, cyclist…he was playing squash when it happened. WTF do you have to do?
When I was in college, one of my fraternity brothers dropped dead of a heart attack in the middle of a 10K race.
Sometimes, they just give out.
Agreed, but it’s the lone-wolf single-person-cell nuts like McVeigh that we need to worry about, and what’s coming from the Republican side lately is empowering to people like that., people who might have convinced themselves that an action they take might start that civil war. Like maybe blowing up a government building.
For me, this is the scariest part of the cultural center controversy. Some idiot will get it in his head to blow the thing up, whether before or after its built, and either the NYPD is going to risk their lives to stop him, or the NYFD will risk their lives to clean up the mess.
Either way, we can lay the blame right at Pam Gellar’s door.
Agreed, but it’s the lone-wolf single-person-cell nuts like McVeigh that we need to worry about, and what’s coming from the Republican side lately is empowering to people like that., people who might have convinced themselves that an action they take might start that civil war. Like maybe blowing up a government building.
Yeah, but I think that would discredit them rather than fire people up. The OC bombing killed the militia movement’s appeal, to take your example.
Actually, Glenn Beck was on the air a while ago imploring his audiences not to resort to violence like that, and mostly they’ve been dropping militias like the Hutaree like they’re radioactive (followed by long-winded speeches of they’re not real Christians, only Muslim terrorists speak for their religion, of course).
Addendum; not to say that lone wolf psychos, especially at Park51 as actor pointed out, aren’t something to be concerned with. They just wouldn’t start a civil war or even come close.
Actually, Glenn Beck was on the air a while ago imploring his audiences not to resort to violence like that, and mostly they’ve been dropping militias like the Hutaree like they’re radioactive
Still, it won’t stop the lone gunmen. All it does is give them a way to cover their asses.
“Kill the niggers, but don’t really kill them” is the message they’re trying to get away with.
Eh, you need people to fight to have a civil war. The liberals would probably keep going “can’t we all just get along” for as long as possible – no civil war happening on that side. And the conservatives, just because they dress in revolutionary-style drag doesn’t mean they have anything close to revolutionary-style balls. They’re chickenshits. That’s why they’re fighting Islam at home by burning Korans in a state with no Muslims instead of fighting it overseas with a gun and an actual risk of injury.
I’m far beyond the “can’t we just get along?” attitude. These sorts of “movements” have resulted in fascist, oppressive governments, bending to the will of corporatists and using wars to support themselves. I won’t stand by and just watch it happen like they did in pre-1936 Europe.
Yeah, but I think that would discredit them rather than fire people up. The OC bombing killed the militia movement’s appeal, to take your example.
It cost us almost 200 lives to get that, though. I”d rather not pay that price.
The thing is, a civil war isn’t required. I read a book by some filthy Russkie about how, when the Soviet Union fell, they really didn’t believe it could happen. They thought it was just wild conjecture on the fringes. And then it did, and they were like, “what?” and we were like, “booyah, bitchez,” and they were like “oh dang, dude, our empire like fell and shit.”
The author goes on to explain how the US is doing a lot of the same things (literally, in the case of Afghanistan) that the USSR did, and we think collapse is equally impossible. When it is actually at this point about a 50% probability.
I can’t recall the name of the book, but it’s a ripping yarn, as the real Palin and Jones would say.
Aw, Christ – Newsweak by the way of MSN.com:
Newsweek: 9 years after 9/11, Americans still have only a fuzzy idea of who the enemy is.
Gawrsh. If we only had a… bunch of reporting-type people who could have informed us about al-Qaeda some time in the last 9 years! And some way they could have communicted it to the American public!
Oh, I forgot — go look at this so Huffington Post thinks I’m popular.
Yay! Very good. I may also buy your book someday. When I have money. Which is not today. Okay, so I do have money, but I’m spending it on, like, food and copays and stuff.
The author goes on to explain how the US is doing a lot of the same things (literally, in the case of Afghanistan) that the USSR did, and we think collapse is equally impossible. When it is actually at this point about a 50% probability.
butbutbut weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee’re not an empire! Q.E. fuckin’ D.
I wonder if South Carolina would be inclined to secede again if/when it happens.
vacuumslayer said,
What’s worse is that the media won’t come out and say what they really are: hateful ignoramuses.
Yeah, there’s a reason they don’t.
giving this assclown an international voice he should never have had.
Wait. Isn’t this the wingnut narrative?
They want to disown Jones now. Claim he only represents his tiny congregation & he’s not the icing on the big Islamophobia cake. It’s the liberal media’s doing.
I say kudos to the media for once. Instead of concern-troll nonsense over “sensitivity” to “sacred ground”, they give us a nicely focused look at mob-hate’s natural outcome.
A couple of bonus points: Jones sounds exactly like every other fundamentalist cracker preacher and he looks like he was recently released from a 20-year stretch in a Supermax.
I wonder if South Carolina would be inclined to secede again if/when it happens.
If I didn’t know what would happen to the nonwhite community the NANOSECOND that happened, I’d sooooooooooooooooooooooooo be in favor of that.
Maybe let the South secede and offer asylum to everybody who asks for it.
A couple of bonus points: Jones sounds exactly like every other fundamentalist cracker preacher and he looks like he was recently released from a 20-year stretch in a Supermax.
Sorta like Fred Phelps?
AW JESUS FUCKING CHRIST – courtesy NBC/MSN:
Jones said Thursday he would call off the planned burning of Qurans based on a deal negotiated with the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida that the location of a mosque planned near ground zero in New York would be changed.
But Musri said he was clear on Thursday when he told Jones that he could only set up a meeting with planners of the New York City mosque, whose leader said he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri. Jones responded by opening the door, if only a crack, that he would go forward with his plan on Saturday.
What’s wrong with these paragraphs?
fucking ‘A’ guys. Way to go. Yet another zombie lie for the wingnuts to feed off of aided and abetted by the idiot media. Whee.
Still, it won’t stop the lone gunmen. All it does is give them a way to cover their asses.
I think I maybe said this yesterday, or at least started to say it–these are classica manipulation techniques, just on a macro level…push and push and push juuuuuuuust far enough that you’re not technically guilty. And stand back with an innocent look on your face and act persecuted when something happens and people even insinuate that you might be partially responsible.
I think I maybe said this yesterday, or at least started to say it–these are classica manipulation techniques, just on a macro level…push and push and push juuuuuuuust far enough that you’re not technically guilty. And stand back with an innocent look on your face and act persecuted when something happens and people even insinuate that you might be partially responsible.
They’ve got a mountain of freaking PHDs in that.
And stand back with an innocent look on your face and act persecuted when something happens and people even insinuate that you might be partially responsible.
Or a belligerently offended look, if you’re Breitbart.
Or a belligerently offended look, if you’re Breitbart.
I think the smug “we both know who’s guilty, but we both know nothing’s going to happen to me!” look gets the gold.
They’ve got a mountain of freaking PHDs in that.
And anyone with any idea of what’s going on knows that they’re responsible, but since the media are in some sort of fucked-up, codependent relationship with the right, they let them continue to pretend they aren’t, or at least that it’s in question that they are.
Okay, enough with the therapy talk, but fucking seriously. The techniques one abusive bully uses are the same as a group of abusive bullies would use.
And the conservatives, just because they dress in revolutionary-style drag doesn’t mean they have anything close to revolutionary-style balls. They’re chickenshits. That’s why they’re fighting Islam at home by burning Korans in a state with no Muslims instead of fighting it overseas with a gun and an actual risk of injury.
They are chicken shits, but no more than anyone else. They aren’t willing to risk their meagar lives and possessions, they fear losing those things more than anything. They fear legal consequences. They don’t fear resistance, because they already believe that the left isn’t as well armed or trained and the military and police are mostly on their side and so on.
In a large enough mob, or with a belief there will be no legal consequences, a lot of them would do it right now. Think about the mob on the other side of the bridge from new orleans, sheriffs among them, shooting at people fleeing a drowning, starving city. No one was ever prosecuted from that.
We get lone wolves right now from people who feel they have nothing to lose, or at least nothing they care about. The rhetoric of “we are losing our country, losing our honor, losing our way of life; what kind of world will your poor children live in” feeds right into that.
Its quite possible the people feeding red meat to the mob aren’t thinking of consequences at all, just basking in the glow of the mobs adoration (and taking their money). A lot of the mob doesn’t want to actually kill anyone, though they might not be upset of a lot of the others were eliminated, and would turn a blind eye towards it. Some would come to jesus, so to speak, when faced with the real consquences.
I don’t think we are there, but I think we are close. I think that counting on the other side to be chickenshits or that people won’t really pull the trigger when the time comes ignores pretty much all of human history. We aren’t that special. It can happen anywhere, including here. Who pulls us back from the edge? Where have people been pulled back from that edge in the past? Do we have a Ghandi, an MLK, a Mandela among us?
Just thinking out loud…
I think the smug “we both know who’s guilty, but we both know nothing’s going to happen to me!” look gets the gold.
That look? Makes me fucking violent.
And then, you know, if someone responds to that kind of look with rage (which it deserves), then that person looks like the “unhinged” one.
UUUUUUUUGH.
TU: exactly. The main thing is this obscure, zealot asshole is now a superstar moving on the world stage, with some of the most prominent people in the world trying to figure out what to do with him — and it’s all a publicity stunt.
Remember the last time that happened? It was some guy in a cave in Afghanistan. He toppled the American empire.
And before that, a bunch of guys did the same thing in Germany. And Cambodia. And Uganda. And so on and so on. What starts as a way of consolidating a little attention, getting your message out, can gradually set fire to the entire fucking world. We should probably make a collective effort to figure out how not to get played like this every time it happens.
We should probably make a collective effort to figure out how not to get played like this every time it happens.
As I pointed out, our illustrious media ain’t exactly helping.
I don’t think we are there, but I think we are close. I think that counting on the other side to be chickenshits or that people won’t really pull the trigger when the time comes ignores pretty much all of human history.
I agree. And you people are supposed to stop me from feeling paranoid and a little scared. Clearly, you are falling down on the job.
Why help when there’s a buck to be made?
I disagree. I don’t mean to sound all Bobo Brooksish, but people today are soft. All they know is Internet bluster. At the first sign of a real fight, all these “take our country back” types will be shitting their pants.
Will Poopy turn religious now?
That is an interesting story, alright. Here’s the way I see it: If god has waited this long before “sort of healing a sort of amputee” for the first time in recorded history, and then only by having a scientist figure out a way, using science, to do it, then god is indeed a dick. If He existed I would be unable to not despise Him.
We should probably make a collective effort to figure out how not to get played like this every time it happens.
Unfortunately, I think it’s just part of human nature. Really, I think that the only thing we *can* do is teach critical thinking skills and try to expose people to as many different cultures and types of people as possible, preferably when they’re young. We have to figure out a way for all people to know how to keep that reptilian, xenophobic part of their brains under control.
Unfortunately, when you have sociopaths exploiting those feelings among people without critical thinking skills for their own benefit, that’s nearly impossible.
They don’t fear resistance, because they already believe that the left isn’t as well armed or trained and the military and police are mostly on their side and so on.
LOL, reason number 93,244,032 why they’re dumber than a bag of hammers. Not well armed, inner city gangland? Yeah. Keep telling yourselves that.
The author goes on to explain how the US is doing a lot of the same things (literally, in the case of Afghanistan) that the USSR did, and we think collapse is equally impossible. When it is actually at this point about a 50% probability.
Was the book “The Fateful Pebble”? Or something like that. It covers that ground.
Bin Laden’s strategy was lways based off of what he felt the mujahdeen did to Russia. He openly stated that we would go anywhere Al Qaida waived a flag on a hillside. Its rope-a-dope.
I disagree. I don’t mean to sound all Bobo Brooksish, but people today are soft. All they know is Internet bluster. At the first sign of a real fight, all these “take our country back” types will be shitting their pants.
I think you’re right, and I have the advantage of being thought of as a sissy liberal caffe sipper from Seattle. What a surprise I’ll be. (Assuming this actually happens). I can take on 50 twinkie dumpsters alone.
LOL, reason number 93,244,032 why they’re dumber than a bag of hammers. Not well armed, inner city gangland? Yeah. Keep telling yourselves that.
That’s right. This particular leftist commie fag is plenty well armed.
Someone proposed yesterday, in the atheism reddit I think it was, that we donate the books for them to burn. Well, we give them bibles printed in Arabic. Post book burning the hilarity ensues.
Yeah, me too. They won’t see people like me coming. Listen, I hate macho posturing. I hate violence. I hate confrontation. But if pushed, if it’s fight or flight, I’ll fight almost every time. And this will be no different. Ugh. I hated even typing that.
Can we start with “The Lovely Bones”?
Delicious butthurt for you.
At first I was like … : 0 ,,, but then I : D‘d,.
I think a chickenshit is more dangerous than a non-chickenshit – & never more so than if they’re massed together, armed & driving themselves paranoid.
I also think you may be optimistic as to how many “radical crypto-marxist ultra-liberal leftist Not-Real-Americans” (especially the ones who served or had family serve in places like Kosovo &/or Sadr City &/or Kabul) have an overt desire to have a nice long workout by beating the ever-loving fuck out of some nice soft squooshy wingnut ass. Let’s just say they don’t exactly live on granola, read French Symbolist poetry & do macrame.
Only seven words to descibe the entire intricate kaleidoscope of la comédie humaine!
Pip, pip! Dashingly well played!
[ applause ]
Zombietini?
Yeah, me too. They won’t see people like me coming. Listen, I hate macho posturing. I hate violence. I hate confrontation. But if pushed, if it’s fight or flight, I’ll fight almost every time. And this will be no different. Ugh. I hated even typing that.
I hate macho posturing too, and I don’t especially like violence. But I have three little girls to think about, and if there’s a damn thing I can do about them living in a world where it’s not considered offensive and fascist to gather together and burn books, or where a person should consider him/herself lucky to be straight and white because oppression is the law of the land. I’m willing to fight for this. I don’t like outright confrontation either, but I won’t sit by and let those fuckers take control of my life. I’ll kill them first.
Not well armed, inner city gangland? Yeah. Keep telling yourselves that.
The general belief in reichland is most of them don’t train to shoot and couldn’t hit someone aware and at a distance. They also believe inner city gangs are too fragmented and undisciplined, and run from anyone in uniform. And that they are as likely to kill each other.
Don’t get me wrong, i think inner cities make much harder people than country bumpkinism. mostly.
Sorry T&U, I’m in a mood.
Zombietini?
With a severed finger garnish!
Someone proposed yesterday, in the atheism reddit I think it was, that we donate the books for them to burn. Well, we give them bibles printed in Arabic. Post book burning the hilarity ensues.
Hoist with their own petard, as it were.
I like.
Okay, I now officially hate NBC/MSN:
GAINESVILLE, Fla. — A New York imam at the center of the controversy over a mosque near ground zero said there was no meeting planned with a Florida minister who previously threatened to stage a Quran-burning stunt, NBC News reported.
IT’S NOT A FUCKING MOSQUE AND IT’S NOT NEAR GROUND ZERO, YOU DUMBASSES!
Serously. Fuck NBC with a red-hot poker.
http://prhome.defense.gov/MPP/ACCESSION%20POLICY/PopRep2008/summary/chap5.pdf
I need to learn the link tag.
Anyway, its interesting that blacks make up a 5th of the military, and hispanics at least another 10th. That’s a lot of minorities trained to shoot, lol.
Hoist with their own
pretard, as it were.Apologies to the Palin family.
At a certain Yukon bar, you can get probably still order that drink with the prospecter-dude’s pickled thumb in it from way back in Ye Olde Klondike Days. Close enough?
Mmmmmmmmm, thummmmmb.
“Anyway, its interesting that blacks make up a 5th of the military, and hispanics at least another 10th.”
Judging by the names of the dead soldiers that “This Week” runs on Sunday mornings, it would seem that Hispanics make up at least a third of our military.
BTW he said yesterday he’d hold off on burning the Quran if Cordoba House was moved – that shows you right there where the guy’s coming from.
Rauf should say he doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Let’s just say they don’t exactly live on granola, read French Symbolist poetry & do macrame.
Yeah, well, THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY’RE MISSING.
The general belief in reichland is most of them don’t train to shoot and couldn’t hit someone aware and at a distance. They also believe inner city gangs are too fragmented and undisciplined, and run from anyone in uniform. And that they are as likely to kill each other.
Gangs are aware of their weaknesses (at least the smart ones, the dumb ones don’t last). That’s why MS-13 actually has its members join the military, serve for a few years, get out, then come back to the gangland and teach the rest of them everything they’ve learned. (I’ve heard you can actually find MS-13 graffiti in Iraq because of those guys).
Not that I have any personal experience with this, at all. I just, y’know, read. Maybe the rednecks should do a bit of that too before marching on Washington. “One Southerner can lick ten Yankees” didn’t work out so well last time either.
but but but Mr. Jones can’t be a terraist – he’s an American! Q.E.D.
“but but but
Mr. JonesOliver North can’t be a terraist – he’s an American! Q.E.D.”Fixed.
I’m sorry, but I have no choice but OT this thread for a second. So I’m on a stock photography site, looking for photos for my next project and I type “handsome man” into the site search engine. Looking, looking…not much there…lots man, notsomuch handsome…looking…looking…and I find this. WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And look, it’s Jack McBrayer in his second career as a underwear model! I couldn’t stop laughing. Oh man. Sometimes you find some surreal shit on those stock sites. 😀
Oliver North can’t be a terraist – he’s an American!
oh, don’t get me started on that little Nazi shit.
Looking, looking…not much there…lots man, notsomuch handsome…looking…looking…and I find this. WTF?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t tell me – you found the pic on the next thread.
Someone proposed yesterday, in the atheism reddit I think it was, that we donate the books for them to burn.
Can we start with “The Lovely Bones”?
Not a bad choice, but the collected works of Ayn Rand, being far thicker and full of hot gas, will burn longer and harder.*
*VfiredickR
Here’s the way I see it: If god has waited this long before “sort of healing a sort of amputee” for the first time in recorded history, and then only by having a scientist figure out a way, using science, to do it, then god is indeed a dick.
I knew you’d crawl thru a loophole you had to fabricate. That’s why I posted it, to watch you scurry.
BTW, Poopy….you’ll note that He did it on demand, just for you, regenerating a finger. You say it, He does it, and yet, you won’t even give Him the credit for timing!
BTW, Poopy….you’ll note that He did it on demand,…
Physicians may be godlike to some people but it’s bad form to capitalize the pronoun when referring to them.
Physicians may be godlike to some people but it’s bad form to capitalize the pronoun when referring to them.
If you recall, this was pretty much precisely what I predicted you’d say.
btw,
I’m atheist because I just am. I’m “militant” about it becuase I think I’m right and it’s better for everyone when people base their actions and policies on reason, not superstition. I’m anti-theist because of this kind of nonsense: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/kw/stars-far-away
I mean, reread all of our comments above about the ignorant st00pid people and then tell me that practicing religion and teaching that shit isn’t a big part of _why_ people are ignorant and st00pid.
Just because _you_ don’t behave that way doesn’t make it okay. You sir, are not a true Scotsman. Or something.
An easy prediction. I just don’t understand why believers like yourself insist on seeing things that aren’t visible to anyone except believers. I don’t believe in magic – I’ll prefer to attribute it to the physicians, to science, all those things that EVERYBODY agrees were involved.
I’m atheist because
I just amI’m atheist.Fixed for more Meganicity.
Speaking of Meggers, check out the Krug Man. He bashed on her noggin a little today at his blog.
Hee hee.
I have much to say, but… I must sleep.
Oh, and be it resolved, from this point forward, to prevent any confusion with the beloved old Python Terry Jones, can we call this pastor Unfunny Terry Jones?
Wow. That’s coming right out and saying it. “My problem with this liberal notion of ‘equality’ is that these liberals have the NERVE to think I’m NOT entitled to special treatment just because of my Daddy’s last name!”
I’ll bet if you ask Strom Thurmond’s’ half-white daughter, she’ll tell you Daddy’s last name din’t have much to do with it.
He’s just angry that he gets a h***d on while sucking…
Kochs?