Morons! Stand up and be counted! Hindraker supports you!

the fact is that the Republicans are on their way to overwhelming majorities in both houses. Americans are sick of the unamerican socialist Obama and his democrat lapdogs. The Republican party is the only American party that can beat Obamarxism and most Americans are close to us in views.

The tea party is about supporting fiscal conservatism and opposing socialism and it has taken off to be America’s post popular group.

Keep fiddling, losers. Your party goes down in 2010 and Obama goes down in 2012. President Palin.

If the shoe fits.

Got out of the boat.

It was cold. So, so cold.

And wordy. And bombastic. And practically unreadable, but with an undercurrent of arrogance and condescension.

I need a blankie.

Obama goes down in 2012. President Palin.

I don’t want to hear about your sick Obama-on-Palin fantasies. Thanks.

For now, suffice it to say that there is no “scientific consensus” on global warming…

No matter what the scientists say.

…by any objective measure–educational attainment, income, success in life–Republicans are, on the average, smarter than Democrats.

He says this because he’s stupid.

Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™

Actually, I happen to agree with AsRocket on this one.

Keep fiddling, losers.

That’s MY job!

Actually, I happen to agree with AsRocket on this one.

Well, yeah, pretty much everybody is fucking stupid.

Pretty sure Republicans are stupider, though.

Pretty sure Republicans are stupider, though.

Oh, well, yea. That goes without saying.

No doubt, but by any objective measure–educational attainment, income, success in life–Republicans are, on the average, smarter than Democrats.

But by the objective measure of, you know, knowing things, Democrats are smarter.

That’s MY job!
Think again loser!

When asked how they learned about Obama’s religion in an open-ended question, 60% of those who say Obama is a Muslim cite the media. Among specific media sources, television (at 16%) is mentioned most frequently.
…
Guess what: Rush Limbaugh isn’t on television.

Guess what: nobody said he was, and 36% just said “media or news” without specifying. Plus, it’s not true that the report contains no further information; 1% mentioned radio as the specific source for their incorrect belief, and 7% specified the internet, meaning sites like ShittyLawyerLine are a bigger admitted source of stupid than Rush. Congrats!

And wordy. And bombastic. And practically unreadable, but with an undercurrent of arrogance and condescension.

I got out of the boat, too. The insecurity is strong in this one. I could almost hear the “I hate them SO much!”

Plus, I love how these rightwing fuckers point to “independents” and say, “See??? Republicans aren’t dumb!”

The problem is, fuckers, that usually “independents” are “independent” like Glenn Beck is “independent.” In other words, they’re fucking rightwingers, but the Republican party isn’t extreme enough for them.

Pretty sure Republicans are stupider, though.

All you have to do is watch a Teabagger rally to know this.

The problem is, fuckers, that usually “independents” are “independent” like Glenn Beck is “independent.” In other words, they’re fucking rightwingers, but the Republican party isn’t extreme enough for them.

Or they’re swing voters who lean Republican. I always roll my eyes when people shrilly play the “but, but, THE INDEPENDENTS!!!” card.

In other words, they’re fucking rightwingers, but the Republican party isn’t extreme enough for them.

it’s actually been veery instructive to watch the news reports from primary states this week, where there have been almost as many signs with regards to RINOs as to Obama.

But what about non-Republicans? In the Pew survey, 10 percent of Democrats and 18 percent of independents say Obama is a Muslim. Not only that, a majority of Democrats–51 percent–say either that Obama is a Muslim, or that they don’t know what his religion is. Obviously, something is going on here, and it isn’t merely that Republicans are stupid.

There’s some refutimation for ya.

Or they’re swing voters who lean Republican. I always roll my eyes when people shrilly play the “but, but, THE INDEPENDENTS!!!” card.

Oh, definitely. I just know that if someone says, “I’m an independent! They’re all crooks!” here, I run away. Fast.

I got out of the boat, too. The insecurity is strong in this one. I could almost hear the “I hate them SO much!”

Oh, totes. He’s hoping that if he’s haughty and condescending enough that nobody will notice that his arguments are shit. It is the rightwing M.O., after all.

They could have saved themselves the trouble of going through all the “Is Obama Muslim?” things;

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx

25% of Americans do not believe in evolution, while an additional 36% have no opinion either way. (This is Gallup; most other polls I’ve seen have the disbelievers at a much higher number).

This is the functional equivalent of not believing the Earth is round, or of answering “I’m not sure” when asked about it – this should be a no-brainer. That statistic more than anything else is an indicator to me of how screwed up the public’s perceptions are.

Is the average American stupid? No. The average American is ignorant, and an entertainment media that panders to every already-existing prejudice and superstition helps to keep him that way.

In my experience, independants are those who say “I hate both parties”. While I don’t disagree with this sentiment to any degree whatsoever, I have actually thought through why I hate them both. Some of them are far right whack jobs, most of them are uninformed people who don’t really take the time to figure anything out.

This is why campaigns show candidates hunting, taking shots in a bar, walking through factories with hardhats on, riding in tanks, shooting baskets with the UNC team, etc. It’s an attempt to plant the seed of recognition in the dopes who don’t understand the actual issues, or are too smart to buy into the stupidassed campaign rhetoric and lies. Net result: “Which candidate would you rather have a beer with?” Winner.

The problem is, fuckers, that usually “independents” are “independent” like Glenn Beck is “independent.” In other words, they’re fucking rightwingers, but the Republican party isn’t extreme enough for them.

Or, like some of the morons I work with, “independent” means, “100% Republican in every way imaginable, but I don’t want to admit it because Republican politicians are lying, corrupt, bigoted assholes, and that would make me look bad”.

In other words, that rather large group that always answers don’t know/no opinion (which really means I Don’t Give a Fucking Fuck Now Leave Me Alone So I Can Get Back To Warcraft) are the independants. When they say no opinion or don’t know, they really mean it.

No doubt, but by any objective measure–educational attainment, income, success in life–Republicans are, on the average, smarter than Democrats.

Seriously? They use studies showing people with more education tend to be more liberal to paint universities as socialist wastelands and professors as clueless “ivory tower” types out of touch with plain folks, and studies showing that liberals earn more but tithe less to moan about the hypocrisy of bleeding-heart limousine liberals, then claim conservatives having the very traits they’ve lambasted in liberals proves conservatives are smarter? In response to a study showing conservatives were more likely to be purposefully wrong in certain obvious ways, i.e. willfully stupid? Somebody call Bobo, we’ve got a live one!

Or, like some of the morons I work with, “independent” means, “100% Republican in every way imaginable, but I don’t want to admit it because Republican politicians are lying, corrupt, bigoted assholes, and that would make me look bad”.

These guys crack me up. Repukes got their agenda pretty well enacted during the Bush years, and they agree with all of that shit, but don’t like Repukes cuz their like liars and stuff.

Jesus. That shit is unreadable. My eyes rolled back into my head and I got the cold sweats about halfway through and gave up trying.

I’ve always believed that our corporate betters want the average American to only be educated enough to take orders and count change properly. They’ve managed to dumb most of us down enough so that we don’t do either well.

Is the average American stupid? No. The average American is ignorant, and an entertainment media that panders to every already-existing prejudice and superstition helps to keep him that way.

Right – stupidity isn’t thinking things that are false, it’s believing things that are false. Epic stupidity is being convinced that your belief in false things actually makes you better informed than everyone else. There’s your modern right-wing in a nutshell, and Assrocket’s post is a perfect example.

cuz their like liars and stuff.

Oh hell, they got to tsam, too!

OT, but this actually just amused me. (Slightly NSFW)

Especially, “Equally important: Be sure to eat a healthy breakfast.” *giggle*

Jesus. That shit is unreadable. My eyes rolled back into my head and I got the cold sweats about halfway through and gave up trying.

I skimmed it about halfway and thought I was almost done, then scrolled down and saw how much there was left and just gave up.

25% of Americans do not believe in evolution, while an additional 36% have no opinion either way. (This is Gallup; most other polls I’ve seen have the disbelievers at a much higher number).

It would be great if someone would duplicate this study in Europe and Asia.

Megalomania is a word defined as:
1. A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence.
2. An obsession with grandiose or extravagant things or action

Resurrecting a god is hard work…

the reason people think Obama is a muslim is because he has no church membership and the Egyptians say he is a muslim. Obama was raised muslim, ex-NOI, and he returned to Islam. When this is proven, he should be removed from office

Or, like some of the morons I work with, “independent” means, “100% Republican in every way imaginable, but I don’t want to admit it because Republican politicians are lying, corrupt, bigoted assholes, and that would make me look bad”.

Not to mention all the people who became independent because the Republican Party wasn’t conservative (e.g. lying, corrupted and bigoted) enough for them.

the reason people think Obama is a muslim is because he has no church membership and the Egyptians say he is a muslim. Obama was raised muslim, ex-NOI, and he returned to Islam. When this is proven, he should be removed from office

Huh?

I think you’re decompensating, Gary.

They use studies showing people with more education tend to be more liberal to paint universities as socialist wastelands and professors as clueless “ivory tower” types out of touch with plain folks, and studies showing that liberals earn more but tithe less to moan about the hypocrisy of bleeding-heart limousine liberals, then claim conservatives having the very traits they’ve lambasted in liberals proves conservatives are smarter?

Yes.

SASQ

They’re going to claim that Republicans have more high school diplomas, while more Democrats drop out.

If you count inner city youth, there may be some truth to that. In rural areas, kids stay in school because working usually means mom or pop 24/7. It’s their chance to get away from the family.

Mind you, I’m pulling that out of my ass going generally on my sense of things, but I suspect I’m not far from wr–…wro–…mistakenly informed.

the reason people think Obama is a muslim is because he has no church membership and the Egyptians say he is a muslim. Obama was raised muslim, ex-NOI, and he returned to Islam. When this is proven, he should be removed from office

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

… sorry, I just had to laugh when I saw all those assertions followed by “when this is proven”… Ah, the burden of proof, such a pesky yet vital little thing.

So we now believe everything a Muslim nation says?

OT, but this actually just amused me. (Slightly NSFW)

I may have found my life’s calling. It’s in human resources: Executive Vice President of Panty Sniffing.

Well, Google evidently thinks Republicans are morons – the ad next to Assrocket’s article is “Do you support Obama’s HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA?”

I may have found my life’s calling. It’s in human resources: Executive Vice President of Panty Sniffing.

That’s disgusting.

Um, Gary?

Allow me to introduce you to the President’s church

They’re going to claim that Republicans have more high school diplomas, while more Democrats drop out.

2009 was the first year that Democrats outnumbered Republicans among people with college degrees, I believe.

Which makes sense, since college students as a group tend towards libertarianism more than left or right. As I’ve pointed out in the past, it makes sense that the people who in 1970 were saying “I don’t want to have to go to war” and “I don’t want to be told I can’t do drugs” would become the people who in 1980 whined “I don’t want to pay my taxes.” The progression from hippie to yuppie happened to a lot of people.

(OTOH, I’d be curious to see how many college grads disbelieve things like evolution and global warming).

That’s disgusting.

You’re telling me! You know how many women don’t douche???

The tears of impotent rage make the mangos very sweet. Sweet sweet mangos.

(OTOH, I’d be curious to see how many college grads disbelieve things like evolution and global warming).

I’m afeared to say it might be a fair amount.

@Tigris:

Exactly right. If it weren’t a plain fact that education and knowledge correlates to liberalism, there would be no need for the silly “ivory towers full of out-of-touch academics” and “liberal media in the tank for X” conspiracy theories to even exist. But they do – elaborate, detailed stories (that we’ve all heard a million times), “explaining” a phenomenon that Assrocket assures us doesn’t exist.

And we’re the stupid ones.

Ugh. Actor, I’m not talking to you for at least two weeks.

REMEMBER!

ONLY GOLD WILL BE ACCEPTED AT THE PEARLY GATES!!
(and lucky you, I’ve got some for sale.)

Sadly, the UK is infested with idiots, too:

Half of British adults do not believe in evolution, with at least 22% preferring the theories of creationism or intelligent design to explain how the world came about, according to a survey.

The poll found that 25% of Britons believe Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution is “definitely true”, with another quarter saying it is “probably true”. Half of the 2,060 people questioned were either strongly opposed to the theory or confused about it.

The Rescuing Darwin survey, published to coincide with the 200th anniversary of Darwin’s birth and the 150th anniversary of the publication of On the Origin of ­Species, found that around 10% of people chose young Earth creationism – the belief that God created the world some time in the last 10,000 years – over evolution.

About 12% preferred intelligent design, the idea that evolution alone is not enough to explain the structures of living organisms. The remainder were unsure, often mixing evolution, intelligent design and creationism together. The survey was conducted by the polling agency ComRes on behalf of the Theos thinktank.

Ugh. Actor, I’m not talking to you for at least two weeks.

PMS?

Oh hell, they got to tsam, too!

I DONE THAT ON PERPOSE

Belief in evolution by nation

We’re number (almost) LAST! We’re number (almost) LAST!

“We see Glenn Beck as a guy who is bringing revelations of understanding to the American people,” FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey said, commenting on this weekend’s “Restoring Honor” rally. “Glenn Beck is the instructional arm of the small-government movement and we are the action arm,” Armey added. – via Thinkprogess.

And we’re gonna milk their ignorant fear for every dime we can squeeze.
So buy gold and pray, motherfuckers!!!

Education v. evolution:

In fact, Gallup’s analysis says religiosity outweighs educational level in shaping views on evolution, even though those with the most education are far more likely to support evolution than those with the least. Just 21 percent of respondents who had up to a high school level of education believe in evolution, compared with 74 percent of those with postgraduate degrees.

It would be great if someone who’s not a moran would duplicate this study in Europe and Asia.

Fiqqst for more AMERICAAMERICAAMERICA greatness.

Funniest fact about the belief in evolution v. creationism. Note the source:

A 1999 Fox News poll of registered voters offered respondents the explicit option to say that both Darwin’s theory of evolution and the biblical account of creation were true: 26% said both were.

Somebody please tell Actor that if he’s trying to piss me off, it’s not working.

WTF is Beck’s rally supposed to be about, anyway? Taking back the country? Taking back the civil rights movement? Honoring the military? It seems like the topic changes every five minutes.

It’s being funded by some sort of charity organization, meaning it can’t be overtly political per IRS rules. So I guess they can’t say it’s about being pissed because a black Democrat was elected President.

Somebody please tell Actor that if he’s trying to piss me off, it’s not working.

Why woudl you think that?

Beck wears George Washington’s purple heart.

What the fuck? People listen to this guy? He’s clearly INSANE.

WTF is Beck’s rally supposed to be about, anyway?

Restoring honor to the nation.

Which is a little like DKW’s mom restoring my virginity.

It’s being funded by some sort of charity organization, meaning it can’t be overtly political per IRS rules. So I guess they can’t say it’s about being pissed because a black Democrat was elected President.

Sarah Palin’s speaking at it. It’s a good thing she’s not running for anything.

Women aren’t supposed to douche. Just thought I’d throw that out there, since the convo has turned to Glenn Blech.

Women aren’t supposed to douche.

And men aren’t supposed to act like douches, but that never stopped them.

“The poll found that 25% of Britons believe Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution is “definitely true”, ”

Heck, I wouldn’t say yes to that.
I would demand an option to say it is the best explanation we have so far.

grr, stupid pollsters.

Women aren’t supposed to douche.

And men aren’t supposed to lower the seat.

Women aren’t supposed to douche.

And men aren’t supposed to lower the seat.

Great minds think alike.

OT and probably fake, BUT AWESOME: http://gizmodo.com/5622996/naked-redneck-throws-himself-in-a-hay-baler

Maybe it’s not OT, since it’s on topic for stupidity.

“it’s about being pissed because a black Democrat was elected President.”

Come on, that’s a completely non-political opinion in our center-right nation.

About 12% preferred intelligent design, the idea that evolution alone is not enough to explain the structures of living organisms. The remainder were unsure, often mixing evolution, intelligent design and creationism together. The survey was conducted by the polling agency ComRes on behalf of the Theos thinktank.

I wonder what these morons think about the fact that 2 out of 3 Gods of Abraham hate pigs, but the other one’s down with bacon?

I wonder what these morons think about the fact that 2 out of 3 Gods of Abraham hate pigs, but the other one’s down with bacon?

*snort* You assume that they know that the Islamic god is a God of Abraham. Some of them probably don’t even know that the Jewish god is a God of Abraham, either, and if they do, they probably know nothing about keeping kosher.

“Beck said in a recent broadcast that he did not intentionally choose the “I Have a Dream” anniversary for his rally.” He believes the coincidence is “divine providence.” .

Yeah, parts of Rhode Island are nice, but “divine” goes too far.

Beck: The merit badge — there it is in the bottom of your screen. It is George Washington’s original Purple Heart, but it was just given for merit, for doing something of honor. We didn’t even know about it until 1933 when FDR found three. There were only three of them in existence.

According to wikipedia, hardly any of what he said is true. What a surprise! Worst part? Right before he said the above he stated, ” I have been wearing it.”

You know, I was just venting the other day about American’s being ingorant and st00pid fuckwads. All this shit is depressing me again – GIVE ME HAPPY THOUGHTS.

And men aren’t supposed to lower the seat.

Hover-pooper!

He’s clearly INSANE.

I’m siding team EVIL on this one.

All this shit is depressing me again – GIVE ME HAPPY THOUGHTS.

Ummmmmm…..uhhhh…….

Puppies?

I’m not good at this sort of thing…

During World War II, nearly 500,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured in anticipation of the estimated casualties resulting from the planned Allied invasion of Japan.

Hey – I’ve always been told that we nuked the Nips because an invasion was expected to result in one million casualties. Yet the government really only thought it would be half that number. Lying sacks o’ shit!

And men aren’t supposed to act like douches, but that never stopped them.

I gotcher douche right ‘ere, motherfucker. What the fuck YOU lookin’ at?

Heard it from The Media this morning (discussion on NPR or BBC) that the hundreds of thousands of people coming to the Beckfest (okay, the 24,000 people) are being asked to not bring signs. I forget what the pretext was.

I leave it to your cynical minds to divine the true motivation for that rule.

Having learned more about the Koch brothers yesterday than my stomach was ready for in 40 minutes of radio time, I’m quite convinced the Beck is ignorant, stupid, illogical, emotional, ambitious, and oh yeah, here’s my new opinion: all too eager to be a useful idiot for the puppetmasters.

the reason people think Obama is a muslim is because he has no church membership and the Egyptians say he is a muslim. Obama was raised muslim, ex-NOI, and he returned to Islam. When this is proven, he should be removed from office
I have to agree with Gary on this one. I am pleasantly surprised at his strict interpretation of seperation of church and state and agree that all politicians with ties to religious organizations should be removed from office.

Heard it from The Media this morning (discussion on NPR or BBC) that the hundreds of thousands of people coming to the Beckfest (okay, the 24,000 people) are being asked to not bring signs. I forget what the pretext was.

Yeah, I heard that, too on NPR this AM.

If Republicans are the smart ones, why is each state’s tendency to vote Democratic directly proportional to its education level?

God, damn I love Stephen Colbert. Here he becomes inspired by Glenn Blecch’s world changing umptathon rally.

An excerpt from a relevant book, with Beck’s name substituted for the book’s subject:

[Beck] went far beyond the world of the daft and the frenzied—or, to put the matter another way, that world was greatly enlarged while he was about. Into it came large numbers of Republicans who had coolly decided that there was no longer any respectable way of unhorsing the Democrats and that only [Beck’s] wild and conscienceless politics could do the job.

How perfect is that? And guess whom the author was really talking about?

I believe in creationism. But unlike most creationist I believe the world was created about 5 minutes ago. We were all created with memories of a past that really doesn’t exist. It is of course well within the capabilities of an all powerful God. The good news is none of us is really as old as we think we are. We are all just 5 6 minutes old. The bad news is ’round about 2013 the world will be full of teenagers.

WTF is Beck’s rally supposed to be about, anyway?

Glenn Beck, of course.

Ouch, blew the whole set up. ’round about 2023 dammit.

How perfect is that? And guess whom the author was really talking about?

Exhuming McCarthy

I believe in creationism. But unlike most creationist I believe the world was created about 5 minutes ago.

The essence of most religious arguments is people wanting to murder each other over whether this happened last Tuesday, or last Wednesday. Each one thinks their view is “right” because it can’t be disproven, and each one thinks the other’s view is crazy, because it is. And they’re both half-right.

A big cigar for T&U.

But unlike most creationist I believe the world was created about 5 minutes ago.

I believe in a mix: when I was created all those minutes ago, I was a creature making lunch. I have since evolved into a creature eating lunch, an advance with clear survival benefits.

I’m a creature waiting for lunch, e.g. my lunch break. The relief was supposed to be here 18 minutes ago. I have much rage.

I have since evolved into a creature eating lunch, an advance with clear survival benefits.

That all depends on what you are eating for lunch.

Shorter Hindypoop: “My Ass – I can see forever from up it, so don’t anybody worry! There’s enough room for all of you in here!”

Neither President Bush nor President Obama had the power to “enact” legislation.

Look away, liberal stormtrooper! These aren’t the perpetual State Of Emergency/Executive Orders/signing statements you’re looking for!

It’s not clear what Egan’s point is.

Thus Hinderaker proves it splendidly.

the “false belief in weapons of mass destruction” was not some sort of popular (let alone Republican) delusion. It was the considered judgment of the CIA and every other intelligence agency, world-wide

As arguments go, to say that Hinderaker’s bitch is ugly & his dog can’t hunt is actually demeaning to those with ugly bitches & dogs that can’t hunt.

That they could dig up some venal Cold Warriors at the CIA to endorse their bullshit con-game isn’t exactly a bolt from the blue – not when you’re sourcing intel from the same people who brought you Plan “B,” MK Ultra, & a massive criminal transportation cartel on the taxpayers’ tabs with which to ship serious fucktons of black-market arms & China White.

The less Cold-Warriorish pros at the CIA were probably telling Cheney to eat shit & die in a fire: he’d nuked their PR image just when they’d made progress in painstakingly rebuilding it in the wake of a string of minor boo-boos that began with the Berlin Wall whoopsy-doodle & culminated in the 9/11 whoopsy-doodle.

To conclude: are there a lot of dumb Americans? Sure. What else is new? Are there some dumb Republicans? No doubt, but by any objective measure–educational attainment, income, success in life–Republicans are, on the average, smarter than Democrats.

Meditation For Herr Hindy:

Shoot the Big Boss Stupid-Monster until you kill it. }

an advance with clear survival benefits.

What are your odds of breeding?

Okay, how about if we don’t count Actor?

A big cigar for T&U.

Oooh, phallic!

the “false belief in weapons of mass destruction” was not some sort of popular (let alone Republican) delusion. It was the considered judgment of the CIA and every other intelligence agency, world-wide

The considered judgement of those intelligence agencies that weren’t under the neocon thumb (e.g. French or German) was that based on his past behavior, Saddam was likely still pursuing, repeat pursuing the development of WMDs. However, none of them got any closer than CIA or SIS to finding any evidence of such WMDs. And between the embargo, the inspections and the constant air raids by British and American aircraft on suspected WMD factories, he essentially never had a chance to develop those weapons after the Gulf War.

(Meanwhile other countries were advancing in leaps and bounds, most obviously North Korea).

As for the CIA, they, like the military and State Department, repeated by rote what they were told to say by the White House, against the better judgement of all their experts.

I wonder what these morons think about the fact that 2 out of 3 Gods of Abraham hate pigs, but the other one’s down with bacon?

Stupid Jews! Just like Muslins!

This is a subject for another day. For now, suffice it to say that there is no “scientific consensus” on global warming, and when global warming advocates are challenged to debate, they almost always refuse; when they do not refuse, they are crushed.

I haz a sad. Really? Leaving aside the fact that none of that is true, who reads that kind of rhetoric and thinks anything other than, “troll”?

When New York Yankee fans are challenged to a debate, they almost always refuse; when they do not refuse, they are crushed.

When chicks who don’t want to have sex with me are challenged to a debate, they almost always refuse; when they do not refuse, they are crushed.

1) Knowledge and intelligence are overrated. Look at me! I’m dumb and yet I know everything, so it must not be important.
2) Everybody who disagrees with me is stupid and wrong, even if they’re “smart” and “know stuff”.

For now, suffice it to say that there is no “scientific consensus” on John Hinderaker’s humanity.

I haz a sad. Really? Leaving aside the fact that none of that is true, who reads that kind of rhetoric and thinks anything other than, “troll”?

I would suppose the same people who believed the “scientists” the tobacco industry found to tell Congress that the links between smoking and cancers weren’t provable.

The bad news is ’round about 2013 the world will be full of teenagers.

*subscribing to Barely Legal*

A big cigar for T&U.

*unzip*

I haz a sad. Really? Leaving aside the fact that none of that is true, who reads that kind of rhetoric and thinks anything other than, “troll”?

Rightwingers who think anyone on their “side” who claims to be smart and a kick-ass debater must be telling the truth because they’re too dumb to tell the difference.

This is why Obama is trying to turn America into a Muslin state.

Zombie ants

No zeppelins were harmed in the making of this story

the “false belief in weapons of mass destruction” was not some sort of popular (let alone Republican) delusion. It was the considered judgment of the CIA and every other intelligence agency, world-wide

Better slow your roll, homey.

The worldwide consensus consisted of a notable threat–meaning that intelligence indicated the possibility. That’s why we had UN inspectors in the country. The Republican (YES, Republican) delusion was the insistence that this evidence (ie-pictures of choo choo trains) constituted justification to invade the country.

and when global warming advocates are challenged to debate, they almost always refuse; when they do not refuse, they are crushed.

I’ve only heard one such debate – on Canadian radio – but when one side is basically “LA LA LA I can’t hear you!!!” can it really be called a debate?

Sphincterjet logic: successful science PHDs raking in BIG BUCKS pushing climate change are therefore Republicans.

What are your odds of breeding?

Slim to none, but I do keep trying.

The Republican (YES, Republican) delusion was the insistence that this evidence (ie-pictures of choo choo trains) constituted justification to invade the country.

In the face of a) blanket denials by Hussein AND b) blanket denials by not less than three separate weapons inspectors.

Slim to none, but I do keep trying.

I’ve already bred and I keep trying.

1% mentioned radio as the specific source for their incorrect belief, and 7% specified the internet

And 56% listed supermarket checkout tabloids.

This is why Obama is trying to turn America into a Muslin state.

It’s nice to see that Jews and Muslims can agree*. Kumbaya, motherfuckers!

*altered from “can come together” because YOU PEOPLE.

*altered from “can come together” because YOU PEOPLE.

What? I’m the biggest Beatle fan evah!

I’m hoping to be hearing dispatches from DC about the Glenn Beck rally.

I’ve seen one so far: “1st Contact: thickly Texas accented couple asked directions, whether neighborhood is “safe”. “

I wonder if Riehl will encounter any swarthy types on the Metro…

I would think Wonkette would be Dispatch Central.

By the way, Beck warned folks what Metra lines to stay off of. I wonder if that pansy right wing blogger who felt “threatened” by a couple of middle schoolers in short pants had anything to do with that?

US Birth Rate at Hundred Year Low

*unzip*

Tig? T&U? VS? Looks like you’ll have to pick up the slack…

Looks like you’ll have to pick up the slack…

LOL. Best. Unintentional. Joke. Evar.

LOL. Best. Unintentional. Joke. Evar.

What?

WHAT? What?!?!?

I don’t get it…

Unzip>>>>’pick up the slack’ = WillyROFL

Educated does not mean smart. I didn’t make it out of tenth grade yet I believe I am smarter than Sarah “five colleges” Palin. Also too, if income =smart Paris Hilton is a genius.

OMG! Ken Mehlman isn’t just gay…he’s a virgin!

People were suspicious of Mehlman’s sexuality for years. Who knew? The people who “knew” are the people who Ken had sex with. But Ken says he had sex with no one, and told no one, because he didn’t want to tell anyone, because he was uncomfortable with that part of his life.

Unzip>>>>’pick up the slack’ = WillyROFL

::blink::

No. I’m sorry, I’m still not seeing it.

Capisci? *cleaning nails with stiletto*

Women aren’t supposed to douche.

Well, if you want a raise…

Heard it from The Media this morning (discussion on NPR or BBC) that the hundreds of thousands of people coming to the Beckfest (okay, the 24,000 people) are being asked to not bring signs. I forget what the pretext was.

It might have something to do with the charity he’s ripping off and hiding behind requiring that it be a “non-political” event.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

the “false belief in weapons of mass destruction” was not some sort of popular (let alone Republican) delusion. It was the considered judgment of the CIA and every other intelligence agency, world-wide

IIRC, the CIA said “Not so much” at first. Then Little Donny Boom-Boom revised all the reports to say “Let’s go to war!”

Assmunch’s whole article is carved out of stupid and draped in mendacity. One can only speculate on the intelligence of anyone wont to read and believe such drivel.

Poor Irony. We miss you.

We’re number (almost) LAST! We’re number (almost) LAST!

We are ahead of Turkey in the percentage of our populace that believes in evolution.

Turkey.

I don’t like all those other countries pointing and laughing at us. I really don’t.

*cleaning nails with stiletto*

Wow, those shoes can do ANYTHING!

Well, if you want a raise…

AHEM

Nobody ever reads what I write, do they?

Tig? T&U? VS? Looks like you’ll have to pick up the slack…

You do know that the birth rate is declining for economic reasons, right?

Nobody ever reads what I write, do they?

There, there. I did. You were first.

There, there. I did. You were first.

Thanks. *sniff*

You do know that the birth rate is declining for economic reasons, right?

I’m being proactive. Babies are nutritious.

AHEM

Sorry, skimming through the thread and missed it.

I read it, T&U, I just didn’t have any remarks for raise seekers on the wisdom of squirting pickle juice up one’s lady cave first.

Sorry, skimming through the thread and missed it.

That’s okay. I was just joking. (Mostly).

I read it, T&U, I just didn’t have any remarks for raise seekers on the wisdom of squirting pickle juice up one’s lady cave first.

I lolded.

Pickle juice might be more pleasant than Summer’s Eve, actually…

Pickle juice might be more pleasant than Summer’s Eve, actually…

*dialing local Vlasic factory*

*dialing local Vlasic factory*

“Factory”? My lady cave isn’t *that*, uh, cavernous.

“Factory”? My lady cave isn’t *that*, uh, cavernous.

“Factory”? My lady cave isn’t *that*, uh, cavernous.

What’s that echo?

Oh, yeah, that’s right. I wasn’t talking to you.

*pout*

the “false belief in weapons of mass destruction” was not some sort of popular (let alone Republican) delusion. It was the considered judgment of the CIA and every other intelligence agency, world-wide

As I recall, and I was really trying to pay attention at the time, the Bush folks were saying that based on Brittish intelligence there were definitely WMDs while the Brits were saying that based on US intelligence there were definitely WMDs. Meanwhile the head of Bittish intelligence was telling the PM that the Bush administration was fixing the info and we are going to war period. Also both were saying that Italian intelligence also showed there were definitely WMDs while the Italians said absolutely nothing. The “liberal media” took this and ran with it as being a world wide consensus.

Also, Assrocket’s little false-equivalence of polls thing is pretty dumb, too.
From the RCP link in his screed,

Most striking, there was a broad similarity between that result and a Rasmussen poll taken in the spring of 2007. That poll found that only 39 percent of Democrats believed W. Bush did not have advance knowledge of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, while 26 percent said they were unsure and slightly more than one third of Democrats believed W. Bush knew his country was going to be attacked.

The apparent wording of that leaves it open for perfectly reasonable people to answer yes. The President got a bulletin in August clearly stating there was impending danger of an attack. This is a far cry from claiming he was “in on the attack.”

Not that quite a few people don’t think that it was an inside job, but to skew it like that is screwed up.

Fucking Assrocket. How does that work?

Damn. Got out of the boat and now I’m going to have to wash the stupid out of my clothes.

As I recall, and I was really trying to pay attention at the time, the Bush folks were saying that based on Brittish intelligence there were definitely WMDs while the Brits were saying that based on US intelligence there were definitely WMDs

While French and German intelligence said “We know what you assholes are doing, and we want no part of it.”

Chapter 2: Freedom Fries, and the self proclaimed smarter of the two persuasions vowing a lifelong hatred for those frenchy faggot freedomhating surrender monkeys. (Why is monkeys not spelled monkies?).

I’m a fan of both pickles and lady caves, though I haven’t tried them together.

Which brings my barely-held-attention to this SNL skit* with sportscasters pushing Vagisil.

“I scream, you scream, we all scream for vagina cream.”

*Safe for work unless someone doesn’t like the word vagina.

Fine, Assrocket. If your fuckers are so smart, explain Sarah Palin.

That should keep him busy. Sort of like telling him to find the corner of a round room.

*Safe for work unless someone doesn’t like the word vagina.

Thanks for the warning, honey.

Meanwhile the head of Bittish intelligence was telling the PM that the Bush administration was fixing the info and we are going to war period.

“Sexing up the evidence” was, I believe, the phrase, no?

The kicker for me was when they literally covered up Guernica at the UN so the delegates wouldn’t be reminded what war is when Powell went to lie to them.

Sort of like telling him to find the corner of a round room.

STOP PICKING ON TRIG!

(Why is monkeys not spelled monkies?).

Because there’s an “e” before the “y.”

eie io

Repuglicans are wrong one EVERY issue: race relations, interpreting the Constitution, the role of government, the role of the military, economics.

I could not bear to read Assrocket. What makes them think they’re not stupid?

Because there’s an “e” before the “y.”

Whatever. I don’t like it.

Sorry, I meant Repuglicants.

Repuglicans are wrong one EVERY issue:

But can they dance?

Repuglicants.

Replicants?

But can they dance?

If they want to.

And if they don’t dance, then they’re no friends of mine

(Why is monkeys not spelled monkies?).

Jesus. What a stupid question. You should ban me for vindicating the assrocket.

If they want to.

And if they don’t dance, then they’re no friends of mine

Why do they call it a Safety Dance? Is a helmet required?

We didn’t say Republicans were stupid–we said they’re crazy.

Why do they call it a Safety Dance? Is a helmet required?

Tsk! A band called Men Without Hats would NOT require helmets! That would be unAmerican!

That would be unAmerican!

And they are!

Obama goes down in 2012. President Palin.

More like President Romney. The GOP has this wonderful habit of wanking over the more risky candidate, but ultimately chooses the candidate who has paid his dues.

Romney-Fortuno 2012

Unzip>>>>’pick up the slack’

No. I’m sorry, I’m still not seeing it.

I’m pretty sure it’s not hidden by a big belly so we must assume the reason you ‘re not seeing it is…..

This “Take Back Our Country” shit is beginning to piss me off.

Hey, assholes, did WE ask for OUR country back when five Republican shitballs in black robes stole the election for your idiot frat boy prince? No? Then where the fuck do you come off whining about taking back your country after losing a legitimate election?

I’m pretty sure it’s not hidden by a big belly so we must assume the reason you ‘re not seeing it is…..

I could stand to lose a little weight, but of course, I’m also quite nearsighted, so more likely, it’s what you think: it’s just that damn long…

That would be unAmerican!

And they are!

I wondered who’d pick that one up. I shoulda seen you coming Subby.

“Sexing up the evidence” was, I believe, the phrase, no?

Actually no. The term he used was “fixing the intelligence”. The wingnuts then went with “fixing the intelligence” does not mean the same thing in England as it does here. Which is, naturally, untrue.

Then where the fuck do you come off whining about taking back your country after losing a legitimate election?

Yeah, but Bush was a white dude.

“Sexing up the evidence” was, I believe, the phrase, no?

What was Condi’s phrase?

“Weapons-related program activities?”

When I heard that, I knew. NO WMD.

“Weapons-related program activities?”

Right? What the fuck does that even mean?

Unzip>>>>’pick up the slack’ = WillyROFL

Willy –

Ordinarily: %====>

Actor: %–>

Or so D-KW’s mom tells me.

“Weapons-related pogrom activities” is what Cossacks do.

Or so D-KW’s mom tells me.

It just never pays to let a group cut ahead of you in line.

“Whippings-related program activities” is the Eulenspiegel Society meeting.

Fucking tags…how do they work?

Right? What the fuck does that even mean?

That means Condi wanted some plausible deniability in the event the Bush administration’s causus belli was found to be demonstrably false.

No doubt, but by any objective measure–educational attainment, income, success in life–Republicans are, on the average, smarter than Democrats.

I get a kick out of these claims- it’s funny, because liberals don’t need to form parallel institutions like Liberty University or Patrick Henry College to ape “educational attainment” while adhering to orthodoxy.

I get a kick out of these claims- it’s funny, because liberals don’t need to form parallel institutions like Liberty University or Patrick Henry College to ape “educational attainment” while adhering to orthodoxy.

Dude!

Beck University!

Ass rocket has an interesting point that 35% of some group of Democrats thought that Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11. Perhaps they really said that he should have had prior knowledge. Or perhaps they said that the world’s intelligence services had been telling him for 6 months that something big was going down but him and Condi were too busy opening malls and such.

What makes them think they’re not stupid?

Because even though they think the Kenyan usurper is a Muslin and don’t believe in science or education they have JOBS that pay real money so you fucking lazy hippie intellectuals can get the hell off their lawns. Also: SHUT UP, that’s why.

We didn’t say Republicans were stupid–we said they’re crazy.

Aw, we’re all liberals here, and therefore lovers rather than fighters, so in the spirit of can’t we all get along I propose that it’s quite possible they are both.

I shoulda seen you coming Subby.

Apparently your enormous Schwanz is blocking your entire field of vision.

Apparently your enormous Schwanz is blocking your entire field of vision.

I do need new glasses.

It’s been very lonely this summer.

but him and Condi were too busy opening malls and such.

No.

They were both clearing brush, in each their own way.

Tig? T&U? VS? Looks like you’ll have to pick up the slack…

Your weenis ain’t that big, brotha.

Ass rocket has an interesting point that 35% of some group of Democrats thought that Bush had prior knowledge of 9/11.

How could he not, is the real question? Just before the 2000 election was the Cole attack, and it’s not like they hadn’t hijacked boats and airplanes before.

You know, he WAS President. He’s supposed to have some knowledge of recent history when he takes office. He’s given a thorough briefing.

You know ELSE had an enormous Schwanzstücker?

Weapons related program activities, huh? Did they really say that?

Fucking Christ. The Internet started out as military technology; Saddam setting up a wireless connection at his newest palace would be a casus belli with a net that wide.

Or: Actor: %~>

Hey, he didn’t say pick up the turgid.

I shoulda seen you coming Subby.

Apparently your enormous Schwanz is blocking your entire field of vision.

“Call your doctor immediately if you experience a sudden decrease in hearing or vision because your enormous PENIS is blocking your eye and ear holes.”

“Call your doctor immediately if you experience a sudden decrease in hearing or vision because your enormous PENIS is blocking your eye and ear holes.”

Your doctor…or me.

Your weenis ain’t that big, brotha.

*sipping herbal tea quietly*

You just keep believing that…

“Call your doctor immediately if you experience a sudden decrease in hearing or vision because your enormous PENIS is blocking your eye and ear holes.”

Your doctor…or me.

Just kidding. That sounds kind of terrifying. But I bet a certain poster’s mother would be up for it.

I wonder what these morons think about the fact that 2 out of 3 Gods of Abraham hate pigs, but the other one’s down with bacon?

I always assumed that Allah allowed Christians to eat delicious bacon because he liked them the best.

Actually no. The term he used was “fixing the intelligence”.

Well, the quote is,

the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

But the term “sexed up” wound up getting used quite a bit after this.

I always assumed that Allah allowed Christians to eat delicious bacon because he liked them the best.

Dudes! It’s about the eating of the Jesus! Nothing tastes better than bacon-wrapped Messiah!

Oh,

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387374.ece

and such as.

Dead link, just.

And regardless, the point being that the whole lot was a heaping load of bullshit being used to justify slaughter.

Fuck those people.

That would be unAmerican!

I wondered who’d pick that one up. I shoulda seen you coming Subby.

Um, I hate to be all academic elitey, but isn’t Canada in America?

Um, I hate to be all academic elitey, but isn’t Canada in America?

Why do you hate America so????

Dead link, just.

Works for me. but here

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Downing_Street_memo

and here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_Street_memo

‘s what I was talking about.

Murky B-cups, Just. I thought that’s the event you were referring to.

Your doctor…or me.

Allrighty then!

Why do you hate America so????

Because God hates America. At least, that’s what those nice people down at Westboro Baptist tell me.

After the point about “fixing the evidence,” here’s the other money quote in that memo:

There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action.

Real Men don’t talk about nation building.

I continue to maintain my position that anyone who thought that any rationale offered to support the war with Iraq was legitimate, once they offered up the remote-controlled balsa wood model planes of anthrax death rationale, is a fucking moron.

That includes all the so-called “liberal” supporters of the war as well – it ESPECIALLY includes them, because as liberals they are supposed to know how to operate their own brains.

I don’t give two shits about what the right claims “everyone thought.” If “everyone thought” that Hussein was planning on spraying us down with anthrax from remote-controlled model planes, then “everyone” is a fucking idiot, and as a sentient being, it is your responsibility to recognize that and adjust your thinking accordingly. NOT ONE single rationale flogged by the Bush administration was operable by the time of the invasion – every fucking one of them had been thoroughly debunked. Aluminum tubes. Mobile bio-weapons labs. WMD stockpiles. Yellowcake. Remote-controlled model airplanes of death. The British grad thesis cribbed for Powell’s UN speech.

8 year old children know that to win an argument, you present the most compelling case you can muster. You don’t go with made up shit unless you have to. These guys put forward a “case for war” that would have been laughed out of your local circuit court if your local prosecutor was dumb enough to go in with anything this weak-assed.

That being the case, “everyone thought” is not an excuse. Anyone who bought that load of shit either did so through the willing suspension of disbelief, or because they were too fucking stupid to reason through as above. Assrocket definitely falls into the second category.

Oh, and IRT douches, I’ve always wanted to see the following Summer’s Eve ad:

Daughter, to mother: Mom, do you ever get that…”not-so-fresh feeling?”

Mom, to daughter: Do I! Hell, sometimes I feel like I got a road kill between my legs!

I always figured that if they really wanted to move product, this was the type of thing that would have gullible women running to the drugstore.

Um, I hate to be all academic elitey, but isn’t Canada in America?

Objection! Assumes giving a shit about Canada.

Mom, to daughter: Do I! Hell, sometimes I feel like I got a road kill between my legs!

I threw up in my mouth, a little.

I threw up in my mouth, a little.

Careful what you do with that, cuase I think I threw up in your mouth a little too.

Or perhaps they said that the world’s intelligence services had been telling him for 6 months that something big was going down but him and Condi were too busy opening malls and such.

What the Bushies have done everything (with great success) to make us forget is that Bush ran on a platform that said the Clinton administration was too engaged in foreign policy (same thing Gingrich was saying in the 1990s).

To the extent that the Republicans cared about foreign policy between 1991 and 2001, it was all great power relations with Russia and China (a good reason to re-start SDI, if only that). But when it came to the messier boiling issues like identity politics in the third world, the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, even al-Qaeda itself? They were quiet as church mice.

Mom, to daughter: Do I! Hell, sometimes I feel like I got a road kill between my legs!

Disgusting AND funny.

Col. V. thinks that the Activia people need to quit hemming and hawing and just come out and say the yogurt makes ya poop.

Canada: America’s big beautiful parking lot.

Your weenis ain’t that big, brotha.

Actor’s?

Probably not.

Mine?

Totes enor–

Oh, hi there wonderful wife of mine. I’m just leaving a comment on this site that–no, I was not flirting or propositioning. I was ju

In fairness, there were so many crises that erupted around the world after the Cold War that I’m not really comfortable playing the blame game (be it blaming Clinton or Bush). There’s always a terrorist group with the intent to strike at the United States for some reason or other; it doesn’t necessarily follow that they’re capable of it.

I can say that Bush’s emphasis on Russia and China was very much wrong, the product of a Cold Warrior cabinet with no idea how to deal with the new world order (and that approach remained through most of his presidency).

Canada: America’s big beautiful parking lot. provider of high-quality chronic.

Fixed for … are those Funyuns?

Mmmm … Funyuns.

Oh, hi there wonderful wife of mine. I’m just leaving a comment on this site that–no, I was not flirting or propositioning. I was ju

ish? That’s not how ya spell it, silly!

Mmmm … Funyuns.

Glad you survived your little “marriage encounter.”

when I was created all those minutes ago, I was a creature making lunch. I have since evolved into a creature eating lunch

If “you are what you eat” (as I have heard from SMcG), then I will shortly be devolving into a fried blood pudding.
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The considered judgement of those intelligence agencies that weren’t under the neocon thumb (e.g. French or German) was that based on his past behavior, Saddam was likely still pursuing, repeat pursuing the development of WMDs
Closer to home, Canada had access to the same intelligence as US agencies (under the UKUSA sigint-sharing agreement). The CSIS read it, saw no evidence for the “false belief in weapons of mass destruction”, and Canada stayed out of the invasion.

New Zealand had access to the same intelligence. GCHQ read it, saw no evidence for the “false belief in weapons of mass destruction”, and New Zealand stayed out of the invasion.
DSD reached the same conclusion but Australia joined in the invasion anyway because Howard wanted to be on the winning side of a war whether or not it was justified.

So yes, Hindraker is lying, but you knew that.

I can say that Bush’s emphasis on Russia and China was very much wrong, the product of a Cold Warrior cabinet with no idea how to deal with the new world order (and that approach remained through most of his presidency).

If Richard Clarke is to be believed, almost to a man (or woman) the Clinton administration folks who were involved in foreign affairs warned their Bush counterparts in the transition period about Al Qaeda. Clarke goes so far as to claim he said it was a top priority.

Which stands to reason: under Clinton, there were multiple successful attacks and at least sixteen that the administration managed to prevent, right up to the Milennium Bomber.

And then there’s this. Also.

Clearly, there’s a lot to digest and clearly, if you believe the outgoing administration was too focused on nationbuilding or such like that, then it makes sense to ignore their warnings. But, you can’t later claim you couldn’t possibly have known about this threat.

Glad you survived your little “marriage encounter.”

The day ain’t over yet …

The precise circumlocution was “WMD-related program activities”

The reality:
a couple battered and empty semi-trailers abandoned in a remote location.

This contrast between the map and the territory is a striking and consistent characteristic of Republican political rhetoric.

Clearly, there’s a lot to digest and clearly, if you believe the outgoing administration was too focused on nationbuilding or such like that, then it makes sense to ignore their warnings. But, you can’t later claim you couldn’t possibly have known about this threat.

Exactly. To claim the Republicans would have handled this better than the Democrats is to ignore virtually everything Gingrich and then Bush were doing until right up at the moment the planes hit the towers on September 11th. And yet that’s the narrative accepted by at least half the country.

More Assrocket:

That is, I think, untrue. We didn’t care about Mehlman’s personal life then, and we don’t care now. I believe our attitude is characteristic of the vast majority of conservatives. We wish Mehlman well. But whether Ken Mehlman is or is not gay has no bearing on the public policy question of whether gay marriage is a good idea or a bad idea. No one outside Mehlman’s immediate family will change his or her opinion on the policy issue, based on Mehlman’s perhaps overdue revelation.

What we see here is a reflection of an obsession of the left, not the right.

We don’t care that Mehlman’s gay, liberals do! Unless he wants to get married, then we care if he is gay.

We don’t care that Mehlman’s gay, liberals do! Unless he wants to get married, then we care if he is gay.

Or steps into the shower with us.

What’s a Canada?

No different from a can a dis.

What’s a Canada?

BLARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!! RACKA FRACKA!!!!!!

In fairness, there were so many crises that erupted around the world after the Cold War that I’m not really comfortable playing the blame game (be it blaming Clinton or Bush). There’s always a terrorist group with the intent to strike at the United States for some reason or other; it doesn’t necessarily follow that they’re capable of it.

It takes a narrow minded dumbfuck to blame one or the other. American hubris, interference, propping up insane dictators, meddling in the affairs of others, proxy wars, sending our gigantic corporations over to plunder the resources and keep the revenues, etc… that shit goes back at least as far as the Truman Doctrine. The West brought much of this resentment on itself. Capable or not, the longer we keep ignoring the root causes and imposing our will on Middle Eastern nations, the more their numbers will grow.

Fuck, the Bush administration knew something was inevitable. I have no fucking doubt of that. If that makes me a “truther,” so be it.

I don’t think they knew specifics, but I do I think they might have let shit slide for political reasons? Oh, yes, I do. I just don’t think they knew how enormous it would be.

And what tsam said. Also, too.

…that shit goes back at least as far as the Truman Doctrine.

From South Asia’s perspective, it goes back to the 1500s and the Colonial period.

The West brought much of this resentment on itself.

Why do you hate America?

slightly more than one third of Democrats believed W. Bush knew his country was going to be attacked.

He was explicitly advised of it on August 6th, so slightly more than one third of Democrats are correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US

Smut,

That’s what I was talking about.

Also, too,

that shit goes back at least as far as the Truman Doctrine.

Fuck a Truman. Ask Smedley Butler about the Philipines.

Fuck, the Bush administration knew something was inevitable. I have no fucking doubt of that. If that makes me a “truther,” so be it.

See, I don’t. I just think they were too fucking dumb to pay attention to threats coming out of the third world. The colonial/Cold War hubris; they’re used to thinking that there are only a few (like maybe a half dozen) Real Powers that we need to worry about, and everyone else is just a piece to be moved around on a chessboard, not a real serious player to be concerned with.

My theory is if anything, they heard “Arab terrorists” and just thought “oh, we don’t really need to worry!” At the worst, they expected something like Oklahoma City, but certainly not 9/11.

The Truman Doctrine? Oy, poor Truman.

As a half-French, I thank God it was him and not the Republicans who was in charge of the first seven postwar years. Can you imagine the alternative? With the GOP in charge, I’m wagering little to no economic assistance (nix the Marshall Plan), and “order” maintained by propping up pro-American dictators in France and Italy (the same thing they eventually did in Iran, Guatemala and Zaire). Europe today would still look like South America or the Middle East.

I don’t agree with him on everything, but overall he’s one of my favorite presidents in history in terms of foreign policy (bless him for supporting Mossadegh in Iran, too). Not perfect, not always morally right, but that’s foreign policy for you…

There’s a story where some new teacher at a school in a rural/agricultural sort of area draws a cartoon sheep on the board and asks the class of first graders what it is and nobody answers, and finally she gets one kid to answer and he’s like “it looks like a Columbia but it could be a Montadale” and then the teacher looks straight at you and there’s a womp womp womp waaaah sound, played by the trombonist of the tiny oom-pah band that appears in your mind when you’re daydreaming.

Anyway I sort of wonder to what degree “I don’t know what the President’s religion is” means “I assume he’s some kind of Protestant but I don’t know if he’s Reformed Baptist Church of the Lord, reformation of 1879 or Reformed Baptist Church of the Lord, reformation of 1915” versus “HERP DERP WUT?”

If “you are what you eat” (as I have heard from SMcG), then I will shortly be devolving into a fried blood pudding.

Oh, man, those do like 2d8 damage per hit. Ouch.

Europe today would still look like South America or the Middle East.

Naahhhh. They would have had at least one more massive, continent-wide or larger war to sort shit out. It probably would have involved nukes. And Russia. And nuking Russia. And whoever else was pissing us off that month. South America and the Middle East would look like paradise compared to the Dresden after Dresden after Dresden that say, LeMay might have created given too much leash.

some new teacher at a school in a rural/agricultural sort of area draws a cartoon sheep on the board and asks the class of first graders what it is and nobody answers, and finally she gets one kid to answer and he’s like “it looks like a Columbia but it could be a Montadale”

This is NO LAUGHING MATTER.
I mean, if a kid at a NZ school is seen with a Drysdale, everyone at school the next day will be all “Ha ha, so you’re not good enough to land a date with a Merino.”
Or so I hear from a friend.