Nutcase Describes Libertarian Philosophy In A Nutshell
Posted on May 20th, 2010 by Tintin
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Shorter Rand Paul, Rachel Maddow Show
Rand Paul on Civil, Federal and Business Rights
- If you tell a restaurant that they must serve Negroes then you can tell them that they must also serve drug dealers with guns, although that pretty much amounts to the same thing.
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Well, to be fair, Paul did say that wouldn’t patronize a restaurant that serves Negro drug dealers.
Dare I say “UGH?”
Alt shorter: “I was totally misrepresented by the words I spoke.”
Paultard logic in its majestic equality, allows businesses to discriminate against the privileged as well as the oppressed.
I just saw a portion of this video, how someone could claim to deserve to represent the public interest when he can’t even understand what the hell Jim Crow laws. Much less his conflating the civil rights act of ’64 with the antebellum and pre-slavery north is astounding.
Alt shorter: look, I hate racism, but having a segregated lunch counter is TOTALLY free speech.
I mean pre-emancipation north, sorry about that teacher.
Phew. A new thread. I was tired of talking about my vadge.
Anyway, Paul just said what all libertarians believe. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by this.
He’s already backtracking, though. Poor baby.
“Well, to be fair, Paul did say that wouldn’t patronize a restaurant that serves Negro drug dealers.”
Wait…… he said he would boycott a restaurant that refuses service to Negro drug dealers.
I may have to resort to Venn diagrams to sort this out.
He’s already backtracking, though. Poor baby.
Gonna piss off the base. They can’t purge him though, he’s all they got on a ballot.
I just saw a portion of this video, how someone could claim to deserve to represent the public interest when he can’t even understand what the hell Jim Crow laws
He also had no idea what was in the Civil Rights Act (per an interview with NPR), yet doesn’t support it.
This guy will totally implode. Long before November.
Oopsies! My alt shorter was for that link by T&U@18:30. I had read ahead…
Next Up:
Repeal of the 13th and 14th Amendments.
“People should be able to own slaves if they wanna.”
Anyway, Paul just said what all libertarians believe. I don’t know why anyone is surprised by this.
I think that’s his reaction, too. His attitude in answering the questions seemed to contain a buried, “What? Didn’t you ever read USENET?”
“Who ordered the knucklehead sammich with the selfish salad?”
““People should be able to own slaves if they wanna.”
Absolutely anything else is restricting free trade, which last I looked, we should do away with child labor laws, prostitution prohibitions, the meaning of consent or agency in contracts or relationships.
Those damn kids laying about the house mooching off their parents — GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING USEFUL! Go start a business like Donald Trump did or Bill Gates! The world turns by your labor!
Its also really charming how he laughs when discussing his ignorance of the Civil Rights Act, because you know, discrimination and racism is just all the funnies!
Gonna piss off the base. They can’t purge him though, he’s all they got on a ballot.
EEEEE! I know!!!!!
His attitude in answering the questions seemed to contain a buried, “What? Didn’t you ever read USENET?”
Yeah, and his backtracking is pretty pathetic, consisting mostly of “I was just too dumb to realize that I was supposed to at least pretend that I agree with civil rights enforcement.”
“Who ordered the knucklehead sammich with the selfish salad?”
Take some extra napkins, kid, you’re gonna wear that.
Ooh, that elongated “o” has never been so irritating.
Also. I love that Ron apparently named his kid after his goddess.
In his defense, he’s also a douche to white dudes.
After winning Kentucky’s Republican primary Tuesday night, Bowling Green ophthalmologist Rand Paul refused to take the call of congratulations from opponent Trey Grayson, according to Grayson’s campaign manager Nate Hodson.
Hodson did not elaborate, except to say “it happened.” “This is truly a classless act in politics,” said Marc Wilson, a Republican lobbyist and friend of Trey Grays
Looch, (unsurprisingly) my thought exactly.
Has he been asked his views on religion? It would seem a glibertarian would acknowledge that freedom OF religion must include freedom FROM religion. I don’t think that would be very popular in Kentucky. I want to see heads asploding.
o/t,
none that are so blind that they cannot see, David Brooks masturbates Hugh Hewitt:
“DB: I’ll tell you what I tell my liberal friends all the time, that I worked in liberal organizations, and I’ve worked in conservative organizations. And the further right you go, the nicer people are in the organization. That’s my genuine view. And the other thing I tell them by the way is that I’ve spent a lot of my time in liberal circles where I’m the only conservative, and I’ve spent a lot of time in conservative circles. And I hear fewer racial comments in conservative circles than in liberal circles.
no links, the Mangoes are indeed rotten…
“and I’ve spent a lot of time in conservative circles. And I hear fewer racial comments in conservative circles than in liberal circles.”
And the broccoli at the salad bar at Applebee’s is superb.
So funny I forgot to laugh.
civil rights violate my civil rights
Lobbey, thanks so much. Now there are maggots in the boat.
BTW, guys, it isn’t the first time he’s said something like this. he’s talked about the Civil Rights Act, either.
Yeah, and his backtracking is pretty pathetic, consisting mostly of “I was just too dumb to realize that I was supposed to at least pretend that I agree with civil rights enforcement.”
Shorter Rand backpedalling shield:
“Racism isn’t actually racism. Knowing stuff is hard. I don’t care about symbol rights and stuff because government bad. I’m not looking for smart people votes. I’m a teabagger.”
I mean, come on! If we interfere with a private restaurant’s right to serve fresh roasted infant human, we’re committing a heinous act of governmental overreach! Why, next thing you know, the big, bad government will require every restaurant to have a set of twin .50s mounted in the bar for folks to take pot shots at the chef!
Now, of course, I would never ever order roast infant myself. Awful stuff. Never touch it. But we have to respect the rights of the businessman to serve what he wants. I mean. I think it would be bad business, roasting babies. Who knows, though. There could be a market for it.
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Christ, what a fucking tool this guy is.
I was taken back by how dumb he is. It is the second coming of Dubya…
Mmmmmmmm, roasted baby. I like the chubby forearms–so succulent.
Whoa. Edit lady, EDIT.
Civil rights is theft.
i think it’s fine that mrs paul is running for senator from kentucky as a librarian
What’s with right wingers feeling so comfortable with people who can’t even demonstrate the results of even a high school education? People like that are the reason we can’t have nice things.
I’ll bet good money the guy supports the “right” of the military to purge gay soldiers. I’ll take that a step further and bet that he likes to use the logic FAIL that alleges the idea that gays being in the military violates the civil rights of straight soldiers.
Louisville C-J editorial based on the interview T&U linked earlier.
lobbey I should smack you for making me read that Bobo. BTW what does he mean by “racial remarks”? Isn’t that kind of nebulous? What if mean old liberals spend all their time railing against racism?
Mmmmmmmm, roasted baby. I like the chubby forearms–so succulent.
That’s the flavor of freedom, baby! I like the word succulent.
Sheeeeeeeeeeyit. He doesn’t believe in legalizing pot, which is really the only thing libertarians are good for.
No problem. The restaraunteur can do that, provided he pays a toll per truck of supplies and per customer.
You don’t want to play by government rules, you don’t get the benefits.
Goddamn freeloading libertarians. They are counting on nobody going to the trouble to make them pay their fair share.
Video of a Rand Paul Fan Club.
Found it on a KY blog. And no, it’s not what you’re thinking.
And just in case the web admin get sent to the pokey, keep an eye on the Hutaree supporting Ohio Valley Freedom Fighters.
Forget what Rand said, did I look OK on camera?
Wheee! We get a new posterboy for slimy douchebag fuckweasel. What’s particularly galling and amusing for me is the way he keeps saying “they are going to politicze this, use it to attack me.” He’s either supremely cynical or truly obtuse. In either case, I look forward to his Teabag/GØP campaign getting LOTS of national attention. Go posterboy, go!
If you’ve ever had the displeasure of arguing with fundies, you’ve probably heard them claim that the 1st Amendment only bars Congress from passing laws respecting an establishment of religion–meaning that states, in their view, can still declare themselves to be the Christian Republic of Biblestan if they please. That’s also Ron Paul’s interpretation of the Establishment Clause (he regularly invokes “states rights” on the subject of abortion, for example) and I would expect that Rand’s views are the same as his
dad’sSith Master’s.isn’t that kind of nebulous? What if mean old liberals spend all their time railing against racism?
Not really. Nobody left in the conservative businesses but rich white guys. Racism would never come up.
“What if mean old liberals spend all their time railing against racism?”
He may well mean exactly that, because in bobo world, liberals are obsessed with race.
Mmmmmmmm, roasted baby. I like the chubby forearms–so succulent.
Dibs on the cracklings!
And to be fair, the guy’s name is Randall (possibly spelled Randle). He just goes by the nickname “Rand” for some obscure reason.
This guy will totally implode.
This guy has a very delicate high-wire act (no net included, must buy separately).
His campaign guys (and the R establishment) is going to try and steer him away from more Krayzee pronouncements. But the base he has is going to want to hear it –and more importantly–notice when they don’t. Given his apparent arrogance and his personal viewpoints, I think he’s gonna stick with Krayzee and probably lose in the general (I know, we’ll see). But he does damage to the R brand in a big way on a national level. And this race is going to get covered big time.
Side note: Apparently Dick Cheney could not bring himself to endorse the Randoid.
“are”
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I blame you, T&U.
I guess the Republicans haven’t figured out yet that Rand is very anti-war.
They cost too much. (no, really)
This is just to say
I have eaten
the baby
that was in
the oven
and which
you were probably
saving for devil worship
Forgive me
he was delicious
so plump
and so nommy
From TPM:
One day. One day and he has stepped in it.
I blame you, T&U.
Why me????
And the Krayzee Train is about to leave the station…
And the Krayzee Train is about to leave the station…
Sweet! I’ll start brining the baby now…
You wanted publicity, Teabaggers? You got it.
Why me????
Cooties is catching.
And the further right you go, the nicer people are in the organization. That’s my genuine view. And the other thing I tell them by the way is that I’ve spent a lot of my time in liberal circles where I’m the only conservative, and I’ve spent a lot of time in conservative circles. And I hear fewer racial comments in conservative circles than in liberal circles.
Liberals are all racist meanies, conservatives are grilled awesome with extra awesome sauce. Also bad: righties are always pretending to accidentally fall down open-mouthed on my cock, while lefties absolutely REFUSE to blow me!
Also bad: righties are always pretending to accidentally fall down open-mouthed on my cock, while lefties absolutely REFUSE to blow me!
Cue the Onion article.
I’m going to enjoy watching him crash and burn.
Some smart documentarian should film the whole thing, just so we can laugh at the paultards’ impotent fury.
Also, too: I really hope he wasn’t counting on his spokesman to spin this for him.
http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2009/12/rand-pauls-spokesperson-is-satanic.html
Heh. There’s a famous quote from the bible about reaping what you sow. Oh yeah, and lying with dogs, you get fleas. You court and legitimize crazy fucking idiots, you don’t get to tell them to shutup. The GOP didn’t learn from the fundamentalist christians, apparently. They still manage to somehow think that louder screaming from complete idiots somehow can be called a “movement”. This “movement”. I do not think it means what you think it does.
Cooties is catching.
Are you sure you didn’t get that from DKW’s mom?
Also, too, BREAKING: PAUL’S SPOKESMAN IS A RACIST AND A SATAN WORSHIPER.
NOT A JOKE. REALLY.
Jiiiiinx!
Also, too: I really hope he wasn’t counting on his spokesman to spin this for him.
Dammit. FYWP.
Yeesh. I haven’t found anything yet on Randroid Paul’s Establishment Clause views, but I did find some idiotic rant from a Paultard who wants to abolish the public scool [sic.] system. Home skoolin werkt fer him!
Jiiiiinx!
I had a hard time believing it for a second!
THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME.
And once again we see that libertarianism is simply another name for sociopathy.
Oh, Wayne Allyn Root, Christian Libertarian.
Ugh. Brooks and Hewitt in close proximity. I see six (6) bulbous man-boobs in one booth.
I would say you owes me a Coke, but considering I’m tag-‘tarded* and you had an actual text link, I’ma forget about it.
*Which is still better than Paultarded.
Sad to say I don’t see this sticking come election time. Had this happened in October, maybe. But now is almost an eternity, which gives Conway and the Dems plenty of time to fail. Especially if this is any indication (yeah I know it’s Rasmussen, but still.)
Is it sad that I think the satanist thing is going to bite him in the ass much harder than the white supremacist thing?
Wow, as T&U’s link stated, this should be the most entertaining Senate race in history!
The worst thing about Rand Paul? He makes his dad seem not-so-crazy.
A Non-Libertarian FAQ.
Part of the “Critiques of Libertarianism” site.
Not that people here need such a resource but I’ve found it helpful over time. I thought it might be helpful.
Is it sad that I think the satanist thing is going to bite him in the ass much harder than the white supremacist thing?
Extremely. The link between their “Satan” and white supremacy is apparently invisible to those with an IQ matching their shoe size.
Golf clap.
The worst thing about Rand Paul? He makes his dad seem not-so-crazy.
Perfect name, perfect attitude–Mr Batman, I’d suggest making this fine specimen of POOP the arch villian in your next movie or comic. Do I get a writing credit for that?
Thinking is theft.
T&U and The Kid, I clicked on the link in that article to the dude’s band:
http://www.commanderband.com/
Not what I was expecting, frankly.
Golf clap.
*bows*
I was afraid it fell flat!
Not what I was expecting, frankly.
Hm. Whoops!
A Non-Libertarian FAQ.
Rand in a nutshell.
Rand in a nutshell.
Unintentional reference to the post’s title.
Sorry, didn’t mean to kill the thread.
*crying 🙁 because of stubbed toe not the killing of the thread*
But Rand Paul also has plenty of time to be Rand Paul, meaning betrayal to tea party loons, jes’ plain folks Republicans, elitist powermongers, or all three.
Rand Paul also has plenty of time to be Rand Paul
Like holding a victory speech at a country club. Then covering the country club sign with a Rand Paul election sign?
I loooooove having cake and eating it too. And your’s.
T & U:
It did not fall flat, it is magnif.
And that quickly , the staffer for Satan is gone.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/12/18/80917/kentuckys-gop-senate-race-roiled.html
It’s kind of funny that he got caught because of all his stuff on MySpace. He probably didn’t think to delete it, because no one uses MySpace anymore.
It did not fall flat, it is magnif.
Thanks!
I loooooove having cake and eating it too. And your’s.
Which, as we all know, is the very essence of freedom.
The rain falls on the Just and UnJust fella-
But the UnJust has the Just’s Umbrella.
It’s kind of funny that he got caught because of all his stuff on MySpace. He probably didn’t think to delete it, because no one uses MySpace anymore.
That’s funny yes, but even funnier is that the entire Rand organization didn’t have the fucking foresight to think “Hm, racist, satanic, juvenile crap on a public page might end up becoming a problem at some point during a campaign for the US Senate. Perhaps we should hide it.”
Sadly, that sort of stupidity is very endearing to teabaggers and a substantial number of Republicans.
Those who holler so loudly about their first amendment rights seem to be familiar only with one part of the amendment. They ignore the bit about religion:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™
If you tell a restaurant that they must serve Negroes then you can tell them that they must also serve drug dealers with guns
Um, I think the restaurant owner damned well better or he’ll have some ‘splainin to do to his insurer.
Phew. A new thread. I was tired of talking about my vadge.
*zoom*
Simpsons Episode.
Marge & Maggie at “Ayn Rand Daycare Center”
Owner: Do you know want a baby is saying when it demands a Bottle?
Marge: Ba-ba?
Owner: “I am a LEECH!”
T&U,
I responded to your silly post about male kegels.
*schwartz*
Owner: “I am a LEECH!”
Just like every person who demand a handout form the “federal” government. You’d think we live in a society of similar sentient beings.. or something.
Those who holler so loudly about their first amendment rights seem to be familiar only with one part of the amendment. They ignore the bit about religion:
Why do you hate me and my religion?
May da schwartze be witchew, justme
So, I wonder. Would those fundies mentioned upthread think it’s fine for the states to make laws taking away the right to free speech? Assembly? How about the Second Amendment? Do the States have the ability to do with that as they like?
Inquiring minds, and such.
Wuzza-wuzzup, loony libs? Heh indeedy fo sheedy, it’s been a long time since the Cool Coach rapped at you silly socialsts, so listen up! All you freaks are doing is chugging the Haterade on our ConservoMentum ’10 Randslide, and you’re gonna get doused in the SPREAD of libertarian liquidity if ya don’t check yourselves in lieu of wreckin yourselves! Suck on that SPREAD, libs! All the Rand Man is sayin is the dumberment doesn’t have the right to tell free enterprise what to do! We live in America, right? Would you dingbats rather live in Sweden?
Badoodle-boo-yeah! Eat that, libs! Urban out.
I responded to your silly post about male kegels.
You’re quite proud of that, aren’t you?
It is hard to see how the Dems could loose to Rand Paul, but it will be interesting to see them try.
Sigh. I miss the Lunch Lady. Can we have her back instead?
All the Rand Man is sayin is the dumberment doesn’t have the right to tell free enterprise what to do! We live in America, right?
Oh Coach, it’s bizarre that any of your players actually graduate.
Actually, what Randy is saying is that “free enterprise” is akin to telling the Negroes to get out of Wal-Mart.
You’re quite proud of that, aren’t you?
It terrifies women when they hear it sizzle past their ear.
Holy swollen rock-hard dark lord phallus.
This wasn’t enough to get GOP’s attention?
Really?
(I nominate Barefoot and Pregnant for the Sadly, No seal of approval based on that last link alone.)
Having to listen to libertarians is theft.
Having to listen to libertarians is theft.
The LULZ have it!
All the Rand Man is sayin is the dumberment doesn’t have the right to tell free enterprise what to do!
Actually, according to classic laissez-faire economic theory, the government does and in fact should tell business what it should do, including prohibiting incorporation.
So sayeth Adam Smith. So shall it be done.
Somewhere there must be a libertarian who isn’t a flaming asshole. They do exist, right?
Ooh, I like that one, but the Cool Coach is not the first with it.
Somewhere there must be a libertarian who isn’t a flaming asshole. They do exist, right?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
*wipes tear*
Oh, shit, that’s the funniest thing I’ve seen all day!
Evade evade!!!
It’s probably just me (as opposed to justme) but I find Rand to be a barrel of laughs. All he has to do is open his mouth and I’m laughing. I’m ready to subscribe to a Kentucky newspaper (do they have those?) just for the non-stop hilarity a Senate campaign should be. If this is what the Tbaggers are bringing I’m all for it. Cantidades industriales of stoopid, what’s not to like?
Somewhere there must be a libertarian who isn’t a flaming asshole.
Bill Maher, but he treads close.
Rand Paul sounds unhinged to me- his victory speech was just creepy, he comes across as a simulacrum of humanity, not a real person.
Bill Maher, but he treads close.
I think you’re being charitable. He’s a total asshole.
So, I wonder. Would those fundies mentioned upthread think it’s fine for the states to make laws taking away the right to free speech? Assembly? How about the Second Amendment? Do the States have the ability to do with that as they like?
Well, they tried to make slavery, civil rights, suffrage, voter rights and every other bit of reaffirmation of civil liberties a states rights issue. Being so effective with dumb people, why change tactics now?
Would those fundies mentioned upthread think it’s fine for the states to make laws taking away the right to free speech? Assembly? How about the Second Amendment? Do the States have the ability to do with that as they like?
Unfortunately I think they’d be just fine with it – because they unthinkingly think their individual States will give them exactly what they want: no abortions, no laws that help brown people, and guns for white people everywhere.
Some of ’em may be right, but not as many as they think. Fortunately and I hope to Whatevah that we never find out.
Although a tiny silver lining would be that they would suffer the real-world results of just the kind of government they want, without inflicting their painful lesson on us too.
New England Redneck said,
May 20, 2010 at 20:42
Is this a new troll? I don’t remember having seen this pile before…
Seriously, Lunch Lady, come back! All is forgiven.
They do exist, right?
Yes, they do.
Rand Paul sounds unhinged to me- his victory speech was just creepy, he comes across as a simulacrum of humanity, not a real person.
And if I find that funny does that make me bad? Somehow the loonier he gets the more I laugh. Perhaps I’m extrapolating without enough data points but the way he represents Tbag America seems to indicate hilarity ahead.
Bill Maher is an asshole.
But of course, there’s a libertarian purity test that will likely tell you you are some form of libertarian, so in reverse jiu jitsu we are all libertarians and therefore all assholes.
http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi-bin/purity.cgi
Bill Maher, but he treads close.
Bill Maher also isn’t a complete libertarian. He actually recognizes that the government can and should regulate corporations and the market.
Of course he’s got his inexplicable anti-vaccination lunacy. I guess everyone has to have some bit of crazy, and that’s his.
Teller, on the other hand, needs to experience libertarian paradise in Somalia for a while.
The main problem with the welfare system are the immigrants who come here for the sole purpose of abusing the system and no intention of ever asslimilating into American culture.
The main problem with this country is assholes like you. You don’t like immigrants? Fine. Get the fuck off my land, you child of immigrants. I was here before you (but after the First Nationers).
And take your assholic right wing friends with you. You smell the place up like an open sewer.
Ahem – Penn, that is. Teller also, because he silently goes along with it.
Bill Maher also isn’t a complete libertarian. He actually recognizes that the government can and should regulate corporations and the market.
That’s the original position of laissez-faire capitalism, so he’s more correct that the Teatards.
Bill Maher is an asshole
But not because he’s a libertarian. He’s just an asshole on general principles.
Ahem – Penn, that is. Teller also, because he silently goes along with it.
He’s plotting for the Day of Justice. He’s just saving it all up.
Have you watched “Real Time”lately? If Bill Maher is a Libertarian,he does a great job of hiding it. And you’d be hard -pressed to find someone who rides Teabaggers harder.
Ewww.
possess a working knowledge of American history and civics, and have work skills at the professional level.
I think it’s best that you obtain a working knowledge of history and civics before you impose that restriction on immigrants.
In addition Our Nation should accept only immigrants from European nations in accourdance with American tradition
That’s a fine piece of racist shit you dropped, there.
Ahem – Penn, that is.
WTF?!? Penn Jillette is one of the biggest fucking assholes EVAR. Even he’d acknowledge it, in between bouts of fucking your mom. Just because he’s an asshole in ways that don’t offend your sensibilities doesn’t mean he’s not an asshole.
Have you watched “Real Time”lately? If Bill Maher is a Libertarian,he does a great job of hiding it. And you’d be hard -pressed to find someone who rides Teabaggers harder
V…aw shit–it’s not as fun when you do it on purpose, VS!
http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi-bin/purity.cgi
Huh. I got a thirty. Probably because I think non-opiate drugs should be legal, and the defense budget should be cut.
Once again, so frustrating how Libertarians almost get it but fetishize a regulationless free market.
Who does this, really?
Our Nation
I feel quite comfortable in calling you a fucking fascist.
It is hard to see how the Dems could loose to Rand Paul, but it will be interesting to see them try.
Please to remember you’re talking about Kentucky here. I spent the worst year of my life in Covington, KY. The entire place was like some ghastly genetics experiment gone horribly, horribly wrong.
Much less his conflating the civil rights act of ‘64 with the antebellum and pre-slavery north is astounding.
Not really. It’s the same thing the segregationists were saying back in the sixties when they argued that the Civil Rights Act would enslave white people, and it’s the same thing the Arizona governor said just the other week when she argued that teaching children about the oppression of minorities in American history would be “just like Jim Crow.”
In fairness, the racist base has always been the backbone of the GOP, it’s just that post-1970s, the official party line tried to keep it somewhat in check with the dog-whistling and all. But today, the racists are more and more angry and politically active, no longer trusting the dog-whistlers like they used to… while the dog-whistlers are founding their strategy more and more on drawing out the extremists (which is why you actually have people talking about the evils of the Civil Rights Act again).
I can’t speak from experience but man, it must be a shitty time to not be white…
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I know, I know. But it’s hard for me to pass up a dumb, dirty joke.
Teller also, because he silently goes along with it.
He’s plotting for the Day of Justice. He’s just saving it all up.
I actually saw Teller speak, and at pretty great length.
If you ever get around to watching the History Channel special on Houdini, Teller is interviewed, without Penn (probably because the escapes in the act are his specialty), but in blackout.
WTF?!? Penn Jillette is one of the biggest fucking assholes EVAR. Even he’d acknowledge it, in between bouts of fucking your mom.
If that’s to me, I definitely agree. Well, except for the mom-fucking part. Even she has some standards.
Just because he’s an asshole in ways that don’t offend your sensibilities doesn’t mean he’s not an asshole.
He both offends my sensibility with his reasonless attitudes on global warming and the free market, AND he’s an asshole. I do find him entertaining when he’s taking the piss out of an easy target, though, such as Scientology.
Not even trying to hide it. At all. Wow.
I guess my earlier comment was glossed over. The folks at Unqualified Offerings, especially Thoreau, are decent folks. IIRC, Mona’s popped up in thread here before to defend Radley Balko.
Then there’s Radley Balko. While the Agitator does fantastic work at covering police over-reach and creeping authoritarianism – that guy’s clearly an asshole.
I got somewhere around there, the softcore libertarian rating. The thing is, I never ever want to be called a libertarian because those people are obvious dummies. Jim Henley is mysterious.
A well regulated (in 18th English the term well regulated means well trained, or well disciplined) militia being neccessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
You’re free to own as many guns as you want.
Next?
You know, she’s pretty stupid.
The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: A well regulated (in 18th English the term well regulated means well trained, or well disciplined) militia being neccessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed….
What really gets to me is what part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED does to federal government not understand? It is there in plain English for all of America to see.
Interesting how our new troll picks and chooses the meaning of English words and then WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINES that no one understands English.
What really gets to me is what part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED does to federal government not understand?
And you feel similarly about the 1st amendment, “Freedom of Speech”, right?
Because the 5th amendment is infringed upon all the time, with classification of documents and State’s secrets.
You agree too that there should be no such thing as “Top Secret”, ever? Or do you agree that there should be some commonplace interpretation of the Constitution for the public good?
Yes, it can be a slippery slope – it also means treating the world as if it isn’t in black and white and two dimensions, but as if it’s in COLOR and 3d too.
If that’s to me, I definitely agree.
Sorry, read through that first comment too quickly.
Maybe asshole is the wrong scale to be using here. There’s plenty of folks that rank high on asshole and are still likeable or even possibly decent human beings.
I guess my earlier comment was glossed over.
I clicked through. I wasn’t particularly impressed.
Dammit! Preview is my friend. I meant 1st amendment here too:
“Because the 1st amendment is infringed upon all the time, with classification of documents and State’s secrets”
There’s plenty of folks that rank high on asshole and are still likeable or even possibly decent human beings.
Yeah, that’s why I like to use “fucking asshole” for the people I really hate. Or “dickhead.” Dickhead is good.
I guess my earlier comment was glossed over.
I clicked through. I wasn’t particularly impressed.
Me, too. And the site design hurted my eyes.
You know, she’s pretty stupid.
Not for a Libertarian – although that’s a very soft bigotry of very low expectations. Still she’s not an asshole – or at least not much of one. Plus you gotta give me Thoreau as being at least “okay”.
http://www.bcaplan.com/cgi-bin/purity.cgi
Huh. I got a thirty. Probably because I think non-opiate drugs should be legal, and the defense budget should be cut.
Once again, so frustrating how Libertarians almost get it but fetishize a regulationless free market.
I scored a 24. Neener, neener, I’m more statist than you are!
The main problem with the Native American system are the immigrants who come here for the sole purpose of abusing the system and no intention of ever assimilating into Native American culture. And you have these lazy Caucasian people who don’t work because their feudal culture taught them that their highest priority in life is to be either a fur trapper or a slavery slut. Our Nation’s welfare system needs to be reformed so only people who genuinely can’t work because they can’t fucking hunt can apply.
And Our Nation’s immigration laws are far too lax as well. In addition to the thousands of illegal aliens pouring over the border every day, The Five Nations currently accepts over 1,000,000 “legal” immigrants every year. Most of these from first world countries which dilute Our Traditional Native American culture and increase our nation’s crime rate and unemployment even more. These people refuse to learn Cherokee or Iroquois and refuse to adopt our customs, culture and beliefs.
Our Nation is in serious need of REAL IMMIGRATION REFORM! This means securing our borders, deporting illegal aliens, strict penalties on employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens, and reducing our nation’s immigration quota to more traditional levels of around 0 a year. In addition Our Nation should accept only immigrants from Native American nations in accourdance with Native American tradition. And immigrants must be fluent in Cherokee, Iroquois, Navajo, Mayan, or just about any language other than that mongrel argot known as “English”, have no criminal record, possess a working knowledge of Native American history and civics, and have work skills at the professional level.
That my friends is REAL COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM! THE NATIVE AMERICAN WAY!
Now HERE’S an unintended V_R that’s just begging for it.
My score on the “are you a
dumbfuckLibertarian purity test: 18Here is the assessment of an 18 score:
I don’t think non-whites are in any way ( except culturally) inferior to whites.
But heuy, totes not racist!
In addition Our Nation should accept only immigrants from European nations in accourdance with American tradition.
Well, Troofus is right for once. Excluding people based on nothing other than their national origin or ethnicity is a True American Tradition.
16-30 points: You are a soft-core libertarian. With effort, you may harden and become pure.
Fucking. AWESOME.
(I was going to state here that I started to take it, but it was too long. I don’t even have to TRY to set up dirty jokes anymore. SAD.)
I am not a racist.
Yes, you are.
Even Abraham Lincoln was a White Nationalist
And so was he, until (possibly) very near the end of his life. But, I don’t hold it against him because he lived in the 19th century and didn’t know any better. You have no such excuse.
New England Redman (Not The Goddamn Batman) said,
May 20, 2010 at 21:02
This latest incarnation of The Goddamn (Not) Batman was bought to you by Dismotivational Posters, Inc.
But, I don’t hold it against him because he lived in the 19th century and didn’t know any better. You have no such excuse.
I take comfort in the thought that he has to reach all the way back to the 19th Century to smear a liberal on race.
(I was going to state here that I started to take it, but it was too long. I don’t even have to TRY to set up dirty jokes anymore. SAD.)
You’ve just gotten so good, it’s second nature now. Not sad. Enviable.
I am not a racist.
Why do white supremacists always say that? Who do they think they’re fooling? Are they afraid they’re going to offend us or something if they actually admit to being racists?
As were the Founding Fathers and most American citizens until the 1960s.
You know why so many American citizens were white before the 1960’s?
Because racist laws explicitly disqualified entire groups of people from the rights of citizenship based on ethnicity. Troofus is in shameful company.
And yes I also believe in an absolute right to freedom of speech which of course our socialsit federal government violates every turn it gets
Perhaps you could cite some examples instead of puking your paranoid rantings all over my internet.
I scored a 21 on the moran quiz. I love how they’re all hot to eliminate medical licensure….
Mona should be grateful that LGM’s old comment threads are hosed.
Thoreau I don’t read, but he seems like a gentleman in what little I have. Know who else was a gentleman?
I too am soft but have the potential to harden. But only barely at 16. Mostly due to my inherent distrust of authority and anti-military stance.
DKW, I think I scored higher than you on account of the drugs and sex and stuff… They didn’t have any questions about rock&roll, unfortunately.
Know who else was a gentleman?
Abraham Lincoln?
OK, New England Redneck, I just want to be clear here:
You support unrestricted free speech, including of matters classified Top Secret such as how to actually construct an H-Bomb, or the full deployment codes and configuration of the US military, and the best ways a terrorist group or foreign nation can shatter our defense grid.
Is that correct?
Their are no enemies of free speech on the right, all of the opposition to free speech I see is coming from the left.
So when your racist brother, Abraham Lincoln…you said it yourself, white nationalist…suspended habeas corpus, suddenly he was a liberal?
Make up your mind, moran. We don’t have all day to waste with you.
NER: Are you saying that assault and murder are speech? Hate crimes are those motivated by race hatred.
The best thing about you wingnuts is that the more you talk, the more you dismantle your own arguments with stupid comments. Hating black people and mexicans and liberals might be cool in the pudgy white kid circle, but no matter how sexy you think is, it is wrong and anti-American.
Mona should be grateful that LGM’s old comment threads are hosed.
So there’s a dark and unseemly history that’s hidden in the nooks and crannies of teh intertubulatrons? You have piqued my interest and I wish to know where to start looking for these secret newsletters and websites.
Know who else was a gentleman?
Jimmy Carter! (the anti-peacenik Godwin’s Law [Goddesswin’s Law?])
Whoa, the troll is back. WTF Actor212, I thought you ripped him apart with your bare hands in the South Ferry subway station.
By the way, with regards to free speech, we look yet again to the first principles as stated:
Are you saying that assault and murder are speech
We shouldn’t have laws against first degree murder, because the only difference between murder and manslaughter is thoughtcrime and that violates the First Amendment.
Therefore, Charles Manson is a political prisoner. Also, too.
Actor212, I thought you ripped him apart with your bare hands in the South Ferry subway station.
I handed the job off to one of my minions. You know, it’s hard werk, singlehandedly destroying America.
Damn. I hate to have to
executea minion. They’re hard to come by now that all those minimum wage jobs are opening up, ever since Arizona passed that hate-law.English, motherfucker! Do you speak it?
Apart from Mona’s really stupid love for John Stossel – who she defends here now and again – she really went bananas over abortion in one thread, and in the most stupid possible way. Oddly enough, a non-libertarian way, so howsabout that?
Hate crimes are those motivated by race hatred.
Yup. We determine people’s intent and motivations during crimes all the time, and those have an effect on people’s sentencing. Why would hate crimes be any different?
We shouldn’t have laws against first degree murder, because the only difference between murder and manslaughter is thoughtcrime and that violates the First Amendment.
By extension, since manslaughter is by its very name a hate-crime…you know, since it targets a gender…we have to abolish all laws against that.
Also.
We shouldn’t have laws against first degree murder, because the only difference between murder and manslaughter is thoughtcrime and that violates the First Amendment.
Also, too, this, which is better.
Oh, tsam, I gots your DKs song about Ronald McReagan, mentioned in the previous thread:
Rinos such as…Arlen Specter…
Um, have you been in a coma the last two years?
…so howsabout that?
Certainly believeable. I do recall that one trait that always bothered me about Mona is her certainty in her positions (not a veiled boinking reference) – so her going brazy for cuckoo puffs over something that doesn’t make sense for her to be supporting – well that sounds like a pretty good bet.
I’ll have to dig myself to see the carnage. It’s not that I don’t trust you (even after the mental scarring from your recent graphic blog posts) – but I
will get a kick out of her looking like an idiotneed to verify before knocking her down.Duly bookmarked, troll!
Tea hee hee!
Expect Conservatives to take control of both houses of Congress.
Did anyone bookmark this yet?
Cuz I seriously want to bet my farm against this jackass.
As someone said about his father, “Right about the war, wrong about every other f…ing thing on the planet.”
D’oh! I hate you, B^4
Ah, the great liberal freakout of 2010.
Well, now that Nostradumbass has weighed in, I feel a lot more optimistic about November.
The victory in Massachussets was just the beginning
Yea, but that defeat this week in Pennsylvania?
That was The End.
Buhbye, Teabagger!
D’oh! I hate you, B^4
You just hate me because I’m balder than you.
Well, now that Nostradumbass has weighed in, I feel a lot more optimistic about November.
Now, if we can just get Bill Kristol to say it, we’ll be set!
You just hate me because I’m balder than you.
And have a nicer shaped head
Now, if we can just get Bill Kristol to say it, we’ll be set!
I bet he will now that Troofie has posted it.
Good luck with that – I think it was JS-Kit at the time, and the Internet Archive doesn’t do http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/ past 2008.
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.sadlyno.com+%22john+stossel%22+mona&ie=UTF-8
Nostradumbass
Brilliant, just brilliant. Stolen this will be…
I bet he will now that Troofie has posted it.
Wait. Have we ever seen Troofie and Bill Kristol in the same room?!
Have we ever seen Troofie and Bill Kristol in the same room?!
Hell, we haven’t seen TROOFIE in the same room!
Brilliant, just brilliant. Stolen this will be…
How can you steal something which is freely given? Spread the L-U-V!
Hell, we haven’t seen TROOFIE in the same room!
Remember the hilarious period during which he bounced from place to place, trying to cadge unsecured Wi-Fi networks? Good times, good times!
Rand Paul has apologized….for appearing on Maddow.
Holy shit! Ann Althouse is right on the internet!
Remember the hilarious period during which he bounced from place to place, trying to cadge unsecured Wi-Fi networks? Good times, good times!
Right. He was a long haul trucker or something…maybe just a truck stop hooker. I can’t recall.
But of course, what I really meant was that he has a personality disorder and that he occupies more than one room simultaneously.
Based on
Troofie’sNew England redneck’s “arguments,” I’d say we’re dealing with techniques 1,4,5,6 and 8, right?Oh, tsam, I gots your DKs song about Ronald McReagan, mentioned in the previous thread:
You found it! I was being a dumbass and searching under California Uber Alles. I forgot that they’d aptly changed the name to “We’ve Got a Bigger Problem Now”.
Rand Paul has apologized….for appearing on Maddow.
AHEM.
Remember the hilarious period during which he bounced from place to place, trying to cadge unsecured Wi-Fi networks? Good times, good times!
Heh. He would have probably been more successful if he wasn’t trying to download Hello Kitty pr0n at the same time.
Yep, boy howdy, that Scott Brown victory in Massachusetts sure was a Tea-bagger victory, wasn’t it?
How’s that working out for you, Troofus?
Ooh, that elongated “o” has never been so irritating.
Tell that to DKW’s mum.
You found it! I
I live to serve.
How can you steal something which is freely
given?stolen?It’s a case of convergent evolution, like the evolution of coprophagy in both two-toed sloths and Teabaggers.
H8er!
AHEM.
You don’t count. You’re just a lady.
They tend to be the ones clamoring the loudest for censorship in this country. Ironically, I’ve seen some fundies who are adamantly opposed to laws prohibiting blasphemy–on the grounds that they won’t be able to say mean things about Islam anymore.
As long as it’s the DFHs getting pepper sprayed, tased, and beaten for protesting outside of the “Free Speech Zone,” sure.
Only in the ghetto and the barrio–we can’t have gangs and drug dealers packing heat, if you know what I mean and can see me winking under my hood.
You don’t count. You’re just a lady.
I took that back!
Plus, I mentioned my vadge in that post. I assumed you would have noticed…
I mentioned my vadge in that post
In the “totally fucking boring” post?
Which part is your vadge? Cuz I’m thinking *boring you* is the point.
Chuggin’ the haterade!
Chuggin’ the haterade!
That’s just piling¹ on.
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.
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¹VcoprophilicR
Now that we have purged the Republicans from the Republican party, Republican electoral dominance has been assured! Up with Rand Paul! Down with civil rights!
“Well, to be fair, Paul did say that wouldn’t patronize a restaurant that serves Negro drug dealers.”
Indeed, what if Bill O’Reilly and Al Sharpton asked him out to lunch? You don’t turn that sort of thing down.
Oh, and I’m really loving “Lindsey Grahamnesty” as a right-wing punk/metal band name. Might I make some other suggestions:
Sham Emmanuel
Charlie Antichrist
Bachmann on a Black Planet
Palincide
Elena KKKagan
In the “totally fucking boring” post?
No, in the post that I AHEMED you about.
Which part is your vadge? Cuz I’m thinking *boring you* is the point.
Uh, if you have to ask what part my vadge is, there’s no way you’ll ever get to bore me. Maybe it’s time to take Sex Ed?
Chuggin’ the haterade!
Badoodly-oodly, loony libs!
In the “totally fucking boring” post?
No, in the post that I AHEMED you about.
Which part is your vadge? Cuz I’m thinking *boring you* is the point.
Uh, if you have to ask what part my vadge is, there’s no way you’ll ever get to bore me. Maybe it’s time to take Sex Ed?
Girls! You’re both pretty. Now please stop fighting. And kiss.
Girls! You’re both pretty. Now please stop fighting. And kiss.
*getting Binaca*
Maybe it’s time to take Sex Ed?
Hi; My name is Ed.
Hi; My name is Ed.
Hi, Ed!
Maybe it’s time to take Sex Ed?
Hi; My name is Ed.
Hey, if you want him to take you, more power to ya!
VERGINA.
VOGINA
Also, VEGINA, too.
Also. Plus.
Angina
VIRGINA
D’oh!
Angina
Doesn’t he play guitar for AC/DC?
All my bar conversations go strikingly similar to this one.
Doesn’t he play guitar for AC/DC?
Not according to the ditchinary.
Not according to the ditchinary.
Yea. That last def made my kegels spasm.
Maybe it’s time to take Sex Ed?
Hi; My name is Ed.
Hey, if you want him to take you, more power to ya!
Epic backfire.
Hey, where’d Tr00fie go? He must have a terminal case of butthurt, ‘cos he’s not even phoning it in anymore.
He must have a terminal case of butthurt
Who knew butthurt could make a person so incredibly stupid? Amazing.
Vergina and skull-blogging.
Who knew butthurt could make a person so incredibly stupid? Amazing.
Well, you know, it depends on how hard you spnak…
Possibly not safe for work
Verbena in bloom.
Apart from Mona’s really stupid love for John Stossel – who she defends here now and again – she really went bananas over abortion in one thread, and in the most stupid possible way. Oddly enough, a non-libertarian way, so howsabout that?
I thought she did that in a bunch of threads, but I’m old, and my memory is not what it used to be. I seem to recall she earned the nym “Mona-the-libertarian-who-hates-liberty” over there.
New England Redneck said,
May 20, 2010 at 21:21
Bookmark this, libs!
Well, you know, it depends on how hard you spnak…
Possibly not safe for work
OW! No wonder wingnuts are so cranky. That looks intensely painful. It looks worse than stubbing your toe.
Satingina?
“Nostradumbass” Best & funniest thing I’ve heard in quite a while. Thank you BBB!
Orangina (with extra sexxxay goodness)
OW! No wonder wingnuts are so cranky. That looks intensely painful. It looks worse than stubbing your toe.
This also explains why they are against helmet laws, hands-free cell phone regulations and shampoo.
Epic backfire.
It’s okay. Not everyone is perfect all the time. Except for me, of course.
Is it wrong that I think vodka and Orangina would be delicious?
How about champagne & “Sunny D”?
It’s okay. Not everyone is perfect all the time. Except for me, of course.
You’re a surface to air missile.
Is it wrong that I think vodka and Orangina would be delicious?
I guess you didn’t click on the VOGINA link, huh?
How about champagne & “Sunny D”?
When I gets my crunk on, fuck yeah, boi!
Is it wrong that I think vodka and Orangina would be delicious?
I guess you didn’t click on the VOGINA link, huh?
I did. That’s why I said it. I just didn’t want to call it a VOGINA. Especially since Orangina is actually pronounced with a long “e” sound, not a long “i” sound.
How about champagne & “Sunny D”?
Oh, fuck no. What kind of heathen are you???
Apart from Mona’s really stupid love for John Stossel – who she defends here now and again – she really went bananas over abortion in one thread, and in the most stupid possible way. Oddly enough, a non-libertarian way, so howsabout that?
Was that the thread where she was accusing anyone even slightly pro-choice of plotting to kill her special needs child? I admit, I felt awfully bad for her after watching that particular flame-out.
And the next generation of Paul family libertarians begins his career in…government.
That was the one.
It’s ‘cuz they wanna prove how shitty government can be, Nom. They’re totally gonna SHOW us! We’re gonna be so FACED.
They’re totally gonna SHOW us! We’re gonna be so FACED.
Oh god, mercy! I’ve already been shown. I’m already begging them to stop. I’m already faced. **hic**
Freak Flag Flyin’
STOSSEL: And I would go further than he was willing to go, as he just issued the statement and say it’s time now to repeal that part of the law.
KELLY: What?
You’re a surface to air missile.
In my country, we are not familiar with all internet traditions. Is this a veiled penis reference?
The American people are gonna dump you leftists in a landslide this November.
The trolls here sure do a lot of gloating about things that are about to happen, don’t they?
In my country, we are not familiar with all internet traditions. Is this a veiled penis reference?
Means I got shot down (and she was the missile). In my country, we call that joke “A swing and a miss”. First my advances fall apart, then my followup fails. No game today. None.
The trolls here sure do a lot of gloating about things that are about to happen, don’t they?
Congress: 435 members. To date, there is exactly one teabagger (in name, at least) actually there. 435 to 1 is a perfect place to scoreboard a dude.
435 would include the Executive branch.
OMG! Intelligent design is true!
First my advances fall apart, then my followup fails. No game today. None.
There’s always another day. Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.
OMG! Intelligent design is true!
Major wingnut freakout, coming your way. Cloning stem cells and babies and killing stuff, and god stuff BLARGGGGHHHHH!
OMG! Intelligent design is true!
DUDE.
What if we traveled back in time and created OURSELVES?
Did I just blow your mind?
Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.
And then you become a bar stool.
There’s always another day. Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.
Is it stalkery to take that as a YES????
***heavy breathing****
The newest advocate for spaying and neutering your pets is………..Octomom!
And the further right you go, the nicer people are in the organization.
Yeah, there’s just no people nicer than those folks in the Aryan Nation. Of course, they’re just taking their niceness lessons from their spiritual forebears, the National Socialists. TOTALLY nice people.
Also, just want to point out the thing about the racist Satanist who resigned from the Rand Paul campaign was from last December. Still funny, but not new news.
And then you become a bar stool.
I laughed so hard at this that I’m a little embarrassed.
And for Poopyanus:
PE-WHAT????
Did I just blow your mind?
VbjR!
This (hopefully) concludes our obvious, cliche, sophomoric attempts at comedy for today, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you.
I laughed so hard at this that I’m a little embarrassed.
Now lean back and have a smoke.
And then you become a bar stool.
I laughed so hard at this that I’m a little embarrassed.
So did I, N_B may claim victory for today–fo sho!
What if we traveled back in time and created OURSELVES?
Y’know, we could just go back in time and have sex with each other and make babies that look just like us. Why bother with the test tubes and such?
Is it stalkery to take that as a YES????
***heavy breathing****
Ew, yes. Especially with the heavy breathing. Get a hold of yourself, man!
Caption: Mickey Kaus courts potential voter
Y’know, we could just go back in time and have sex with each other and make babies that look just like us. Why bother with the test tubes and such?
Because then we couldn’t fake evolution, silly!
First person I manufacture I AM PATENTING!
Now lean back and have a smoke.
No, thanks. I forgot my inhaler at home.
In Russia, bar eats YOU!
Because then we couldn’t fake evolution, silly!
Well, true, because you’re perfect and I’m better.
Pardon me, but this is fucking retarded.
So, you’re going to consume paper and fossil fuels to send shit to Rush Limbaugh in order to prove a point he doesn’t care about?
Ew, yes. Especially with the heavy breathing. Get a hold of yourself, man!
Already there. Already there.
First person I manufacture I AM PATENTING!
Dibs on Eccentrica Gallumbits! One for each hand and one to rest my head on…does it get any better?
In Russia, bar eats YOU!
You can prevent this through use of the sexual act known as “lowering the bar.”
That’s why I said it. I just didn’t want to call it a VOGINA. Especially since Orangina is actually pronounced with a long “e” sound, not a long “i” sound.
Uh oh, I think I’ve been saying vagina wrong. I hope it just made me sound Eastern European or something.
Well, true, because you’re perfect and I’m better.
Oh, I thought you meant the human race in general!
Come to think of it, humanity might be better off, but there’s no way I’m popping out that many kids.
“You can prevent this through use of the sexual act known as “lowering the bar.””
That’s DISGUSTING.
This (hopefully) concludes our obvious, cliche, sophomoric attempts at comedy for today, ladies and gentlemen.
What?! I just got back from lunch and the doctor’s! I’m just warming up!
Already there. Already there.
WRONG. FUL.
(See, I did it again? That was totally unintentional.)
Uh oh, I think I’ve been saying vagina wrong. I hope it just made me sound Eastern European or something.
Lawl. I’m going to call it a “vageena” from now on.
In Russia, bar eats YOU!
You can prevent this through use of the sexual act known as “lowering the bar.”
Hear that, T&U? Now whatcha got to say?
Come to think of it, humanity might be better off, but there’s no way I’m popping out that many kids.
Just use stunt doubles.
There is a joke here I’m not touching! Unless you are British…
What?! I just got back from lunch and the doctor’s! I’m just warming up!
If it was the proctologist, then fire away. Ooh, there’s V_R in there.
You can prevent this through use of the sexual act known as “lowering the bar.”
Hear that, T&U? Now whatcha got to say?
Yeah, uh, I’m not really into that….
That’s DISGUSTING.
Depends on what is meant by “lowering”.
(>_<)
Yeah, there's an emoticon for ya
I’m going to call it a “vageena” from now on.
give it a really soft, drawn out j sound. Now whisper it slow in my ear… oh yes.
If it was the proctologist, then fire away.
Well, he said he was. Though, come to think of it, I’m not sure why his office was in Stuckey’s men’s room…
Well, he said he was. Though, come to think of it, I’m not sure why his office was in Stuckey’s men’s room…
Mm hmm. And did you feel a hand on each shoulder during the examination?
Tsam, are you really faced? You have the sweet sweet smell of silly juice on you…and I totally approve.
I just met a girl named Vageena…
Say it soft and it’s almost like praying…
Btw…anyone know a good vegetarian dish to make with eggplant?
Tsam, are you really faced? You have the sweet sweet smell of silly juice on you…and I totally approve.
Maybe just a little–took an extra bit of lunch today. Needed “medicine”. You like the silly, huh? There’s lots more where that comes from!
tsam,I pretty much live for silly. Wouldn’t want to live in a world without it.
Btw…anyone know a good vegetarian dish to make with eggplant?
OMG–I had eggplant lasagne once–My oldest daughter recently decided to be a vegetarian. You essentially substitute the meat with eggplant.
It was G double-O D! Definitely a tsam approved concoction.
tsam,I pretty much live for silly. Wouldn’t want to live in a world without it.
Me either! I don’t know that I would have survived my job without for as long as I have.
That sounds delish…and makes me think of meatless moussaka. Thanks for the inspiration!
That sounds delish…and makes me think of meatless moussaka. Thanks for the inspiration!
Oh, I’ve made meatless moussaka before (ex-veggie). You just sub out the meat with veggies and chick peas.
And bacon.
Oh, I’ve made meatless moussaka before (ex-veggie). You just sub out the meat with veggies and chick peas.
I’ve never had moussaka–it sure looks good in the pictures.
I think im gonna be super lazy and just roast some eggplant potatoes and onions then make a cinnamon-scented tomato sauce and bechamel to spoon on top.not even gonna bake it all together. LAZY MOUSSAKA! YEAH!!
Zev Chafets:
Japanese braised eggplant.
But the most obvious explanation is the one that’s been conspicuously absent from the gusher of analysis. Republican success in 2010 can be boiled down to two words: Rush Limbaugh.
Doesn’t that go all the way back to ’94?
My theory is that the bullshit wankfest of 2009 over health care pretty much got liberals and conservatives arming themselves with pitchforks and torches. Only one miniscule group got what it wanted from this law. To everyone else, Congress and the big insurers stuck it in, twisted it, and broke the handle off.
I do have to say that if I were one of these Wall Street parasites, I’d be thanking my lucky stars that teabaggers and Republicans are too fucking dumb to figure out who robbed them. If we were all able to focus on the real issues, those motherfuckers would have fled the country by now.
Eggplant parmigan and lasagne are both really good… I suspect anything Italian could have the meat substituted with the eggplant.
goo-goo-gajoob?
I just met a girl named Vageena
Of limmericks she’ll try to wean ya
For she ain’t got no times
For fancy pants rhymes
And if you start, with a club she will bean BONK – UGH!
Uh.. that was my Anonymous doggerel above.
I’ve never had moussaka
What?!? That’s something you should address post-haste. Mmmmm Moussaka.
What?!? That’s something you should address post-haste. Mmmmm Moussaka.
I intend to do just that. The pictures I googled looked fantastic.
please re-title this post “paranoia man in cheap sh*t room”
gavin can explain why.
Japanese braised eggplant
One of the local chain restaurants does Northern Chinese and there’s this braised eggplant and pork dish that is un-fricking-believable.
Brasied Eggplant.
Wiley, that’s in my Moosewood and I toyed with the idea of making it.
Btw… The veggies are roasting and the tomato sauce is simmering as I type this.
Yummers!
REGINA.
DKW, that looks amazing.
DKW, that looks amazing.
You know what else looks amazing?
tsam, try it! You will become a convert.
Bahhaaa–wahhh
I’m SO hungry. **sniff pout**
From Rand to proctology to Mousaka, nothing like a Sadly party.
“I do have to say that if I were one of these Wall Street parasites, I’d be thanking my lucky stars that teabaggers and Republicans are too fucking dumb to figure out who robbed them. If we were all able to focus on the real issues, those motherfuckers would have fled the country by now.”
I kinda think they are laughing and have been laughing for a long time now, knowing that they can even buy and control enough media machinery to dupe nearly an entire nation.
re:Braised Eggplant
It is. Amazing. It’s got a bit of heat to it too, I think they use a touch of spicy bean paste. The place also does these soup filled dumplings that are awesome. My personal favourite however is probably the ugliest and ghetto-est thing they make: Onion Pancake with Beef and XO Sauce.
I just met a girl named Vageena
West Side Whorey?
BTW, I apologize for the food-related thread derail. I was honestly looking for inspiration and tsam just happened to say the right, inspiring words.
My better half is out at a Capitals game tonight and while the cat’s away…well, the mouse likes to cook vegetarian. He’s not exactly keen on “veggie” stuff. Always asks me if I’m going “veg” things “up.” (So it was really weird when I made these roasted corn vegetarian tostadas the other night that was basically one veggie on top of another and he loved them. *slams head on desk*)
Ok…as you were.
LittlePig–Lulz! Exactly! Way to bring the dirty pun!
kate, we like our knowledge base to be broad. So broad. And so silly.
But you already know that.
I kinda think they are laughing and have been laughing for a long time now, knowing that they can even buy and control enough media machinery to dupe nearly an entire nation.
I know–I just wish enough people would figure it out and let them know that this time they’ll survive it. Next time, maybe not.
My better half is out at a Capitals game tonight and while the cat’s away…well, the mouse likes to cook vegetarian. He’s not exactly keen on “veggie” stuff. Always asks me if I’m going “veg” things “up.” (So it was really weird when I made these roasted corn vegetarian tostadas the other night that was basically one veggie on top of another and he loved them. *slams head on desk*)
I’m having to get used to vegetarian food. There is plenty of vegetarian food out there that satisfies like like getting some UGH.
tsam, that made me lol…so I guess UGH is now officially S,N shorthand for vagina. It’s all right. I’ll take it. And,yes, sometimes vegetarian fare can be immensely satisfying.
Yeah Vac, I like it that way, ‘cept for myself, if my knee doesn’t heal quickly I’m going to get broad in some ways that are not good.
shorthand for vagina VmasturbationR!!!
HAHA I GOT YOU.
well, kinda.
Sorry, distracted by UGH.
Her Majesty’s a pretty nice girl. Trooping of the Colour coming up soon.Awesome stuff in a nostalgic for the Empire kinda way. Plenty vids out there.
Holy shit — I didn’t even see this post, and, BAM, 361+ posts!
This proves that libruls hate states’ rights and just want anti-Constushull fedrul gubmit soshullism.
This proves that libruls hate states’ rights and just want anti-Constushull fedrul gubmit soshullism.
and there numbers growing cuz the left wing lamestrem media has a death grip on amercia! this is all happening like i said!
I myself am trying to destroy America by talking about vegetarian food. YOU’RE WELCOME.
I myself am trying to destroy America by talking about vegetarian food. YOU’RE WELCOME.
Enemy of the state!
UGH + vegtabuls = SOCALISM!!!11!!!BLARGGGHHH!!111!!
Entertaining:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/libertarians-on-pauls-civil-rights-stance-very-reasonable.php?ref=fpblg
He pooped his nice white pants.
Remember that <Seinfeld episode where Jerry didn’t catch the girl’s name and was mulling over the clue “rhymes with a female body part”? Am I the only one who could only come up with the idea that she mispronounced “Regina” like the capital of Saskatchewan?
(Turned out she thought “Delores” rhymed with clitoris.)
From Sub’s link;
Shorter libertarian:
Racism kinda sucks **snicker**, but we live in a free society. Try being a white, male, able bodied person if you want to be served at private businesses.
I can’t believe I misspelled “Dolores”. That’s a pet peeve of mine, too.
Try being a white, male, able bodied person if you want to be served at private businesses.
If poor, disadvantaged people want to be equal members of society, they can just buy their own businesses and serve whomever they please! But they can’t restrict the sale of their work product, because that is striking and a violation of the sacred laws of the free market.
That’s the beauty of all this. People are finally going to see what libertarians really think. It’s going to lose it’s cachet with a quickness.
I can’t wait, can’t WAIT until somebody asks Paul if he thinks we should have fire departments.
Hmm. All caps for no reason. T&U, have you been tampering with my computer again?
(Turned out she thought “Delores” rhymed with clitoris.)
Well, what do women know about their anatomy? It reminds me of that other Seinfeld episode where George stops having sex and becomes a genius, while Elaine stops having sex and becomes a moron – because sex is how women steal the life force from men. Get it?
I really really hope that Paul’s abhorrent vision of society is why he goes down. No one deserves to lose solely for the poor quality of their ideas more than libertarians. No excuses. Paul’s the Republican nominee, in a red state, in a strong year for right wing candidates. If even Kentucky can’t stand his shit, it would be a brilliant repudiation of libertarians on the most substantive philosophical grounds.
If poor, disadvantaged people want to be equal members of society, they can just buy their own businesses and serve whomever they please! But they can’t restrict the sale of their work product, because that is striking and a violation of the sacred laws of the free market.
Bootstraps! Blarghhhhh! Whites can’t help it if the black people are black.
Now that he’s chained the tea party to himself, hopefully they’ll sink with him.
because sex is how women steal the life force from men. Get it?
See, ladies? We’re doing you a favor by begging for it nonstop!
That’s the beauty of all this. People are finally going to see what libertarians really think. It’s going to lose it’s cachet with a quickness.
I found this really interesting. Pollsters almost never ask about libertarianism, and when one finally did, 37% view the word “libertarian” negatively, and 38% view it positively. For an abstract and fringe ideology, I’m surprised over 70% of the population has formulated a view on the idea.
“Progressive” got 68/23 in its favour, which was better than “capitalism” at 52/37. Enjoy that, randroids.
Bootstraps! Blarghhhhh! Whites can’t help it if the black people are black.
Racist liberals are always trying to tell us they’re born that way, but we know black is a lifestyle choice.
Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day.
Refuse to sell him the fish because of his skin color and you’ll get a sweet gig at the Cato Institute.
Racist liberals are always trying to tell us they’re born that way, but we know black is a lifestyle choice.
The real racism is to tell black people to be proud of who they are instead of helping them get better.
37% view the word “libertarian” negatively, and 38% view it positively.
I bet half of those who viewed it positively just liked that it had the word “liberty” in it.
The other half, “aryan”.
Desegregation is theft.
so in the absence of trolly butthurt and Troofy’s hilarious predictions, Sadly No becomes a forum for sexual double etendres?
Look, I love the sexy-talk, but I’m not sure it’s an improvement. regardless of whether Brandi goes to see Actor’s etchings.
Hmm. All caps for no reason. T&U, have you been tampering with my computer again?
Are you accusing me of engineering a remote control for your shift key that I engage at random? Because I totally would never ever do that.
Mostly because I lack the technical ability.
No one deserves to lose solely for the poor quality of their ideas more than libertarians.
True, but if there’s one country on the face of the earth where these people could be elected, this great nation’s it. Nothing, I repeat nothing this country’s electorate supports could surprise me anymore.
We twice elected a man who was both functionally-retarded and a sociopath. I’m officially jaded.
I do have to say that if I were one of these Wall Street parasites, I’d be thanking my lucky stars that teabaggers and Republicans are too fucking dumb to figure out who robbed them. If we were all able to focus on the real issues, those motherfuckers would have fled the country by now.
No, they should be hiding in their gated communities, while the torch burning mob climb over the gates…..
We twice elected a man who was both functionally-retarded and a sociopath. I’m officially jaded.
And if the teabaggers are any indication, the next Republican we have in office will indeed make Bush look like a liberal by comparison.
(Goldwater to Nixon, Nixon to Reagan, Reagan to Gingrich, Gingrich to Bush – every Republican leader we’ve had in the last forty years has managed to dwarf the disasters of the last one. With “the last one” being Bush, whoever’s next sure ought to be rich).
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Scott Brown is 60th V]ote for Financial Reform Bill Cloture
That’s the beauty of all this. People are finally going to see what libertarians really think. It’s going to lose it’s cachet with a quickness.
I can’t wait, can’t WAIT until somebody asks Paul if he thinks we should have fire departments.
That right there. There.
I think most Libertarians have been very skilled at not just coming right out and saying it (I thought Actor’s link was an interesting exception of a thoughtful version).
The American public is going to get a look at how Libertarianism is manifested and articulated by most of its adherents and it’s not going to be so pretty, oh no it’s not.
Rand Paul has the opportunity to really do some serious damage to the whole TeaTard/Libertarian/Conservative/GOP brand. Serious damage.
I can’t wait, either.
(Yes, yes, I am an optimist)
Perhaps its my Eurotrash background, but the whole libertarian meme just doesn’t seem realistic, either on practical or electoral terms. The Rand Paul character has obviously not thought through this Civil Rights act issue fully, and he is going to be slaughtered at the polls,as well as the media. But as a general point, Libertarianism doesn’t seem to be wholly thought through as movement, and it fails where all other ideologically pure movements fail, i.e. when it crashes headlong into the real world. It the politics of the Engineering dorm room, and thats where it should stay.
Oh, and Ann Rand is unreadable dross.
And PENIS.
Scott Brown is 60th V]ote for Financial Reform Bill Cloture
AAHOOOGGAA!
Red State Trike Force!
Dive! Dive! Dive!
Actually, counting down to conniption fit in 3..2…1…
Damn, that makes me smile out loud, now don’t it?
Look, I love the sexy-talk, but I’m not sure it’s an improvement
Hey, I try to bring back mangoes, but not many people want to eat them…
BTW, ZRM, I have decided to write a YA novel about your brethren. I need to get it in soon before the zombie trend dies. (You do know you’re super-trendy, right?) Would you be willing to give me notes? I want to represent your people in a respectful, comprehensive manner.
Damn, that makes me smile out loud, now don’t it?
(Ice Cube voice) Today was a good day.
Perhaps its my Eurotrash background, but the whole libertarian meme just doesn’t seem realistic, either on practical or electoral terms.
Completely unrealistic on practical terms. Unrealistic on electoral terms? Look at the sheer insanity of some of the politicians and ideas we have in our political system, and look at the fact that fucking nobody ever calls them on the vast majority of it.
Pardon my negativity, but… I think you’ll agree it’s not unjustified.
Hey, I try to bring back mangoes, but not many people want to eat them…
Are you claiming that no one here wants to wrap their mouths around your sweet juicy fruit? Lady, I think you haven’t been paying attention.
Chickens for Healthcare has been a source for EPIC LULZ, but QOTD goes to Talking Pants Marshall.
400, bitchez!!!
I sure hope you’re right, but remember he’s only running for senator. If he were running for president this might be the kiss of death but….
Remember Goldwater? Even the much-maligned Curtis Le May was only in favor of preemptive nuclear war—launching all our nukes when we were pretty sure the Soviets were going to attack us. (He did get in trouble for saying that in the event of a communications breakdown, he’d launch such an attack on his own authority.)
Goldwater, however, was in favor of preventive nuclear war—blowing the Soviet Union to hell on spec, just to get them out of our hair. His apologists tried to cover up his true opinions later and now he’s considered a statesmanlike figure, but that’s crap.
Extremist positions might hurt you running for national office, but running for senator? From Kentucky? I’m not so sure.
Rand Paul versus Rachel Maddow = Bambi versus Godzilla.
“Oh Ayn, Ayn, why hast thou forsaken me?”
– Paul overheard in the Green Room immediately after taping
19 & a half minutes of ever-increasingly uncomfortable fancy-dancing from Paul. Maddow just keeps giving him more rope, & he can’t get it around his neck fast enough … all the while claiming that this is just an airy-fairy philosophical debate, which I’m sure older black viewers found highly amusing indeed – if they hadn’t already put a lamp through their TeeVee monitors by then. Worth noting that he also supports a “local, common-sense” approach to dealing with people with disabilities. Oh my. I think Kentucky is in for a real treat once this fine specimen of libertarianism gets into office.
At the end, he says he’s convinced that this will have no lasting effect – but when he says “good night” he sounds like he knows he just served himself a heaping helping of Epic Fail Sauce.
Paul to Maddow: “I think you’re an intelligent person & I enjoy being on your show.”
Paul on his appearance, the next day:”It was a poor political decision and probably won’t be happening anytime in the near future.”
“I was for The Rachel Maddow Show (a day) before I was against it!”
Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day.
Build a man a fire and he’s warm for a day.
Set a man on fire and he’s warm for the rest f\of his life.
f/of is Philly-speak for “of.” Rassin frassin hotel bed…
400, bitchez!!!
More to the point, 59-39 bitchez! I almost dropped my two-year-old son in shock when I saw the headline on the TV on the way out of the restaurant tonight that financial reform had passed filibuster.
Is sanity breaking out on Capitol Hill at long last?
BTW, ZRM, I have decided to write a YA novel about your brethren. I need to get it in soon before the zombie trend dies
OMG. I started writing “Love in the Time of Zombie Plague” a few years ago, but dropped it when I saw something shiny on the ground. Now I want to do a Shakespearean zombie play.
My better half is out at a Capitals game tonight and while the cat’s away…well, the mouse likes to cook vegetarian.
Ummmm….. Did he say he was going to a Washington Capitals game tonight?
Did he say he would be back late and you shouldn’t wait up?
Do you have a lawyer?
Is sanity breaking out on Capitol Hill at long last?
Not sure I’d go that far, but check out who voted Yes for it – teabagger darlin’ from MA himself.
…as T&U pointed out long ago where I missed it.
Ummmm….. Did he say he was going to a Washington Capitals game tonight?
Game misconduct for veiled spearing reference.
Not sure I’d go that far, but check out who voted Yes for it – teabagger darlin’ from MA himself.”
Hey, if’n I was him and I had a nasty brush with political reality, I’d be trying to prove myself smarter than the Teabaggers’ Latest Poster Boy too…
Now I want to do a Shakespearean zombie play.
Too late for Rosencranz & Guildenstern are Undead.
From the TPM link way above, red meat:
Out out brief eyeball.
I was afraid it fell flat!
You can never tell with baby soufflé.
I feel non-snarky enough that I’m not even sure I’m allowed to say this here, but goddam you guys are hilarious. Thank the jeebus for sadly, no.
“”The spirit of non-discrimination,” said Block “ends you right up in compulsory bisexuality.””
Jesus, time for another of those lego style videos.
The mangoes are going to be rotting for the next six months.
Rand Paul: Zeigler’s Law writ large.
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I came across Chris Rock’s reply to “Is America ready for an African-American President?” earlier today. He said,
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The thing with Libertarians is, they start small, and a lot of the small stuff they propose is not awful. Some of it even makes perfect sense. Then, all of a sudden, Bing-Bang-Zoom! There you are at the corner of privatized police and violent overthrow of the government. Fuckin’ nutters. Like that quiz mentioned upthread. One minute it’s all, “Do you think the government is too wasteful?” and the next thing you know it’s “Do you believe in vigilante justice, even for government officials?” WTF?
RE: privatized police. When I was looking at that quiz this sort of bothered me. If you actually decided to go with privatizing police, from whence would they derive their powers? I mean, police, as they are now, can arrest and detain suspects etc. because we the people agree to let them, via a system of laws developed through the mechanisms of a democratic republic where we assign a smallish number of fellow citizens to represent us in negotiating our society. In short, Teh Government. In the anarcho-capitalist wonderland, to be fair and free, would you not need basically the exact same framework to decide what your hired guns, not to mention your citizenry, could and could not do? What, do they just not call it government, and pretend it’s different? And what will they do when people agree that things should be a bit different than what the libertarians had planned? Do they start to rail against the new structure that they themselves created? Piss and moan about how unfair it is that they don’t get exactly what they want? Hmmph, I suppose some things will never change. Yeesh. It really is the philosophy of five-year-olds.
Also, LEAVE TRIG ALONE!
Too.
Rammed down your throat, so to speak.
Well, here’s something more than ordinarily disgusting.
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/05/20/the-new-free-speech-movement/
In an expression of free speech, PJTV (among other places) is hosting a “Draw Mohammed Competition,” based on the fact that any representation of the Prophet is considered blasphemous in Islam, and this will teach them that we won’t like medieval religions. The entire article, let alone the comments section, is about as subtle as fried chicken, watermelon and Camptown Races, but it’s all for the good of free speech.
The gold medal for surrealism goes to this;
The cognitive dissonance required to call secularism a socialist plot to destroy the Founding Fathers one day, then turn around and call it the foundation of this country and the enemy of “religion” the next… well, apparently wasn’t caught by everyone;
We are not fighting a religious war. Honest.
On the same topic;
Four years ago, left wing blogger Rahul Mahajan posted the following comments on the Prophet Mohammed cartoons (his three blog posts on the subject are all available here http://www.empirenotes.org/february06.html);
More or less a summary of my feelings on the subject. The Constitution protects PJTV’s right to do what they are doing; that should not for a second blind anyone to the notion that it is an explicitly racist campaign, run by proud and explicit racists for unabashedly racist reasons (we know what “the clash of civilizations” means) and should be opposed in no uncertain terms for it.
Mahajan adds this at the end;
“The spirit of non-discrimination,” said Block “ends you right up in compulsory bisexuality.”
Now there is a guy using all ten fingers and ten toes to keep that closet door closed.
In the anarcho-capitalist wonderland, to be fair and free, would you not need basically the exact same framework to decide what your hired guns, not to mention your citizenry, could and could not do?
This thread is probably dead, now there’s a new one, but I wanted to answer this. If you’re interested, you can explore the mad ravings of David Friedman (he’s the one between Milton and the floating city guy – heck of a family). They’ve got a whole theory built up around private police forces. It isn’t a plan to replicate government with a monopoly provider. Instead, everybody would have to pay their own police force to protect and serve them.
The “idea” such as it is, is that the perpetrator “initiated force” against you, and that makes it moral for you to send your
hired thugsprivate police force to arrest him and bring him before a magistrate.That the inevitable result of such a scheme is warring armies of hired goons, corrupted courts and people getting precisely the “justice” they can afford (with impunity for the wealthy) has either escaped their notice, or is the whole point of the exercise.
I started writing “Love in the Time of Zombie Plague” a few years ago
I’ve got dibs on “Old Man and the Z”
I’ve got dibs on “Old Man and the Z”
Holy fuck, that might actually work! Must make a note.
This thread is probably dead, now there’s a new one, but I wanted to answer this. If you’re interested, you can explore the mad ravings of David Friedman (he’s the one between Milton and the floating city guy – heck of a family). They’ve got a whole theory built up around private police forces. It isn’t a plan to replicate government with a monopoly provider. Instead, everybody would have to pay their own police force to protect and serve them.
I believe the technical term for that shit is “Costra Nostra.”
Canterbury Tales From The Crypt?
They’ve got a whole theory built up around private police forces. It isn’t a plan to replicate government with a monopoly provider.
One day when I get around to it, I’m going to post the scene from “Gangs of New York,” where a building burns down to the ground AND gets looted, all while rival firefighting companies sort out who has the right to put the fire out.
Beo-wolfed
Four years ago, left wing blogger Rahul Mahajan posted the following comments on the Prophet Mohammed cartoons (his three blog posts on the subject are all available here http://www.empirenotes.org/february06.html)
I didn’t see them that way; rather I saw the cartoons as depicting the corruption of the religion by (some of) the current practitioners. But I could see Mahajan’s reaction too. However, I do see the whole issue of cringing away from depicting Mohammed as a free speech issue. It irritates me no end that people think they can intimidate others out of expressing themselves (I’m looking at you, Comedy Central). The Draw Mohammed Day was originally a joke, see the Seattle Times article here for the background. I fully support her attitude and position; it’s too bad the racist fucks have taken the ball and run with it.
The nice thing about posting at the tail end of yesterday’s thread is that I’ll probably have the final word and will therefore be right.
It irritates me no end that people think they can intimidate others out of expressing themselves (I’m looking at you, Comedy Central). The Draw Mohammed Day was originally a joke
I thought it was payback for Piss Christ, myself, but then I’ve never been a big South Park fan.
The nice thing about posting at the tail end of yesterday’s thread is that I’ll probably have the final word and will therefore be right.
Yea. That’ll happen.
I didn’t see them that way; rather I saw the cartoons as depicting the corruption of the religion by (some of) the current practitioners. But I could see Mahajan’s reaction too. […] The Draw Mohammed Day was originally a joke, see the Seattle Times article here for the background. I fully support her attitude and position; it’s too bad the racist fucks have taken the ball and run with it.
Well, the Mahajan article was in reaction to the February 2006 controversy, not the current “Draw Mohammed Day” one, though it’s also applicable to PJTV’s take on DMD. The most blatant example of what he was describing was the cartoon of Mohammed with a lit bomb for a turban, though there were others.
In the case of the original cartoons and PJTV’s DMD binge, I agree with him. The closest similar case I can think of is the Westboro Baptist Church protesting outside soldiers’ funerals with “Thank God For Dead Soldiers” signs. They have a constitutionally protected right to do so (something conservatives, for all their bitching about free speech, don’t always seem to understand), and they ought to have it, but that doesn’t change the fact that they’re POS’s. I will always stand for free speech. That doesn’t mean I’m going to stand with everyone who speaks freely.
However, I do see the whole issue of cringing away from depicting Mohammed as a free speech issue. It irritates me no end that people think they can intimidate others out of expressing themselves (I’m looking at you, Comedy Central).
As far as the intimidation campaign goes, I agree with you – and think it was a nice touch that Jon Stewart, hardly a foaming-at-the-mouth conservative, was among the first to stand up and tell the people making death threats “Go fuck yourselves!”
I hadn’t even heard of DMD until I read the PJTV thing last night, so I thank you for forwarding me the article. Like you said, it’s a shame that the racists decided to pick up the ball and run with it; the original person behind it seems to be a perfectly decent one.
The nice thing about posting at the tail end of yesterday’s thread is that I’ll probably have the final word and will therefore be right.
Yes, sorry about that. But I do enjoy actually *talking* about the issue, and there’s simply no way to do that on PJTV…
the Mahajan article was in reaction to the February 2006 controversy
Yep, understood. And while I thought the original cartoons walked pretty close to the line of being offensive, 1) I think they had a legitimate editorial point they were making and 2) even if they were offensive, the proper reaction is not threats of violence (and I get that you aren’t defending that). They also weren’t any worse than commentary (of all kinds) that depicts Christianity in a bad light. What’s the difference?
I could easily see PJTV’s “contributors” straying into hate speech with DMD. They have the right to be assholes and were I in a position to do so I would certainly (attempt to) stop anyone who tried to harm them for it, i.e. what you said. Then I’d turn around and tell them what egregious assholes they were.
sorry about that
Oh I wasn’t saying anything about you; I was trying to be a little funny and note that probably nobody was going to read my comment. Glad you did.
They also weren’t any worse than commentary (of all kinds) that depicts Christianity in a bad light. What’s the difference?
Well, a couple things;
1) The Middle East remains a much more religious place than the West, so in a lot of these societies, Islam enjoys protections that it wouldn’t otherwise. (And because religion is so central in these societies, there are even a lot of people who otherwise support free speech but not in cases like this).
2) Islamophobia does have quite a body count (see Iraq, Lebanon and Gaza in the last decade), which makes most Muslims even more sensitive to the phenomenon than they might otherwise be.
3) … and this is where it gets interesting… in Europe, free speech is often not an absolute right. Nazism, Holocaust denial and anti-semitism have been outright banned in quite a few countries for over sixty years. Therefore, a lot of European Muslims (who already have a lot of friction with their parent community) correctly wonder why “free speech” protects people who insult them, but not people who insult the Jews.
1 and 2 are reasons can understand, but not agree with. But on 3, I think they have a point. Like you, I don’t believe in outlawing any form of speech however much it sucks… and when the Europeans decided to say that some forms of speech were too heinous to be allowed, they backed themselves into a corner, and we’re seeing the results now. (Besides, banning overt fascism hasn’t done anything to stop fascist parties from existing).
Oh I wasn’t saying anything about you; I was trying to be a little funny and note that probably nobody was going to read my comment. Glad you did.
Glad you’re glad! Thanks for the conversation – this site’s the only one where I’ve been able to discuss without all the kooks crawling out of the woodwork.
Chris, you make some good points that are making me think. Thanks for that.
in a lot of these societies, Islam enjoys protections that it wouldn’t otherwise.
…and that’s one of the reasons I think it needs to be deflated a little. I’m no fan of anything that’s “above reproach” and I feel especially strongly about religion. Too many people take advantage of that immunity to screw the proles. It’d be better if it were attacked from within because otherwise they sell the idea that “Islam (or any other sacred cow) is being attacked by the Infidels!” But the message can get through anyway.
Your second point is true enough (more evidently true since 2001 than I had realized) but I’d attribute more to simple greed.
And the third point is valid in Europe but the group threating the South Park guys is based in New York. Also, I agree with you about banning fascism talk.
Gotta run but thanks again.
You can tell a lot about who a politician really is by checking to see who supports them.
You can tell a lot about who a politician really is by checking to see who supports them.
Wow, way to go Rand.
Um, not quite. The MSM, like the Democrats and Republicans, consider the Paul family to be at worst a nuisance and at best a sort of court jester that can provide good, healthy entertainment for bipartisan consumption. Let’s not make a mountain out of a mole hill.
“I just met a girl named Vageena”
“West Side Whorey?”
Or maybe Bottom Side Story.
You go with the private police force you have, not the private police force you wish you had.
Now that the grassroots have successfully purged many rinos
Never, never stand behind a rino while purging it. It gets a bit messy.
Never, never stand behind a rino while purging it. It gets a bit messy.
I do believe we’ve found toofy’s perfect career: large animal douche applicator. It suits his personality.
“I’ve got dibs on “Old Man and the Z”
I’m currently rewriting my umpteenth draft of “Tender Is the Zombie.” Great art takes time, y’know.
The Amyloidosis Foundation estimates that approximately 3,000 people are diagnosed with amyloidosis each year in North America and that blood cancers overall have increased more than 40% in the last decade.