Ad Verecundiam, Mr. President? For Shame!

Obama makes the common fallacious appeal to authority here, while throwing in some ad hominem and the appeal to ridicule:

“I really have no response to that. The last I checked, Sarah Palin is not much of an expert on nuclear issues,” Obama said in an interview with ABC News.

Logical fallacies much, Mr. POTUS?

What’s more, this little outburst is the pot calling the kettle black.

And really, who’s the real expert here?

Palin’s view of nuclear weapons was shaped by her stint as the commander in chief of the Alaskan National Guard, our first line of defense against Soviet nuclear weapons. Obama has held his same views since he was a stoner college student and has showed no signs of maturing.

Amen, Br’er Owens. I’ve always said that when it comes to knowing nukes, two-and-a-half years as commander in chief of the Alaskan National Guard trumps one-year-and-change as commander in chief of an actual nuclear arsenal. Because 1) it’s longer and 2) don’t bogart that joint, fella!

UPDATE: While Bob Owens is busy composing his ode to Sarah Palin’s stalwart defense of Cochinchina in the face of Red Tonkinese aggression, not to mention her leadership role in mediating talks with the Ottomans, we pause to alert you that our uppity POTUS has ‘sassed’ the esteemed former part-time Alaska governor.

 

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Palin’s view of nuclear weapons was shaped by her stint as the commander in chief of the Alaskan National Guard

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH

Oh man, that is TOO funny!

 
 

Shorter TiDoS Yankee: The stoners always got more action than me but perhaps my muscular posture will impress the comely lass from Wasilla. Anyone have some Kleenex?

 
 

People may scoff, but remember that Alaska was the development site for a next-gen anti-nuke platform. Now, I don’t know if Palin’s authority extended to Shadow Moses Island, but I’m sure she had to give her approval.

 
 

the pot calling the kettle black

Of course, the pot prefers African American, while the kettle prefers Uncle Steele Tom.

 
 

It was only Palin’s steely gaze upon our Russian neighbors which kept them launching their missiles at our fair nation. You people have no gratitude.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The thought of having Palin in command of our nuclear arsenal is pretty much the most terrifying thing I can think of. Jesus Christ.

 
 

“Palin’s view of nuclear weapons was shaped by her stint as the commander in chief of the Alaskan National Guard”

So wait, do these people think Palin had some sort of control over a nuclear weapon of any kind?

 
 

Shorter Confederate Yankee: I shore would like me a taste of Dr. Palin’s Strangelove!

 
 

Shorter Confederate Yankee: I shore would like me a taste of Dr. Palin’s Strangelove!

HEY!

No fair commenting on your own post AND being funnier than we are!

 
 

Oooooh, burrrrrrrrrrrrrn over at Bobo Wens site!

As an Army vet, in answer to your rhetorical question, I think I would stick with the guy who got through Harvard law and won the election, over the one who quit her job halfway through.

Posted by: Repack Rider at April 9, 2010 09:27 AM

 
 

the Alaskan National Guard

whats that, three huskeys, 4 big guys with beards and rifles, and a couple of snowboarders….

 
 

The thing I’d be worried about would be, having started the nuclear war to bring back Jesus, would Palin quit halfway through the Apocalypse?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

As an Army vet, in answer to your rhetorical question, I think I would stick with the guy who got through Harvard law and won the election, over the one who quit her job halfway through.

Oh, SNAP!

 
 

The thing I’d be worried about would be, having started the nuclear war to bring back Jesus, would Palin quit halfway through the Apocalypse?

With any luck, she’d miss the Rap and end up Tur’d.

 
 

whats that, three huskeys, 4 big guys with beards and rifles, and a couple of snowboarders….

You forgot First Dude and a case of Molson’s

 
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would Palin quit halfway through the Apocalypse?

Famine was making fun of Trig!

 
 

Gotta hand it to the wingnuts. “Sawwah has foreign policy CRED, man!” was thoroughly squashed over and over and over and over in ’08, and yet they keep going back to it. It’s…adorable.

 
 

would Palin quit halfway through the Apocalypse?

Famine was making fun of Trig!

This is it! This is Armag– oh, would you look at the time? I have a hair appointment.

 
 

You forgot First Dude and a case of Molson’s

Molson, Canadian, you traitorous scum…. only true patriots drink Bud….

 
 

I wasn’t aware that the Department of Defense shared nuclear launch codes with governors.

Remember back when the right was totally sold on the idea that Bill Clinton gave the orders to the CIA and DEA to run the guns-for-drugs aid to the contras out of Mena, Arkansas?

Most people get wiser as they get older. Not so, for our friends on the right.

 
 

Molson, Canadian, you traitorous scum…. only true patriots drink Bud….

Bud, is Belgian. Belgium is practically FRANCE and no American would drink Surrenderin’ Beer!

 
 

I would put money down that no one in the Alaska National Guard has ever had even brief control over an actual live nuclear weapon.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I wasn’t aware that the Department of Defense shared nuclear launch codes with governors.

Oh, yes. Also, if she wanted, Sarah Palin would totally fight Putin naked “Eastern Promises” style.

 
 

Palin would be really pissed when she found out that Jesus upon returning for Sarahpocalypse was not paying her a massive royalty for her services rendered.

 
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only true patriots drink Bud….

Hey, you motherfuckers, I only drink Bud.

 
 

I would put money down that no one in the Alaska National Guard has ever had even brief control over an actual live nuclear weapon.

Except in a bar and then only so long as it took to pick up that fat eskimo chick.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

In other news, my teen years are RUINED.

 
 

my teen years are RUINED

Sad.

 
 

I saw wingnuts attack Obama for drinking Belgian Bud Light while that cop had the patriotic and not at all effete Blue Moon (brewed by MillerCoors) with a slice of orange, so don’t laugh.

 
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Sad.

Right? Next they’ll get Shia LaBouf to play Elliot Smith. *cry*

 
 

Justin Bieber as Tupac Shakur.

 
 

“Alaskan National Guard, our first line of defense against Soviet nuclear weapons.”

It’s a miracle we’re not all speaking Russian now.

 
 

So Palin kept us free from those dangerous SOVIET nukes. I have some hazy recollection from my bong-filled college days (1988-1992) that the Soviet Union fell apart round about the time the pizza delivery guy finally showed up with the fucking pizza. Shorted him on the tip too…
Anyway how did Caribou Barbie keep us safe from a threat which ended before Bristol was born the first time? Can she control time and space? Whooo dude.

 
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Justin Bieber as Tupac Shakur.

I’ve been waiting for *years* for a Nick Drake biopic featuring Freddy Prinze, Jr.

 
 

Sparkly Nirvana?

Have these people no shame?

 
 

I have some hazy recollection from my bong-filled college days (1988-1992) that the Soviet Union fell apart round about the time the pizza delivery guy finally showed up with the fucking pizza. Shorted him on the tip too…

A pizza dividend?

 
 

Miley Cyrus IS Courtney Love in the new bio pic “Deep In My Hole”

 
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“the Twilight star is enamored with the role since he considers himself a musician first, then an actor.”

Fucking headdesk. I want to punch this douche through the screen.

 
 

Well, Super Sarah, the Power Palin has been to one world fair, a picnic, and a rodeo, yet manages to say the stupidest things ever heard come over a set of earphones. But, she’s sure she got the right codes for the Alaskan Nucular Arsenal back in the day…

 
 

Aaron Carter IS Eddie Vedder in the new bio pic “Traffic Jam: The Rise and Rise of Pearl Jam From Grunge To Flannel”

 
 

But, she’s sure she got the right codes for the Alaskan Nucular Arsenal back in the day…

That was “Open Sesame” right?

 
 

Have these people no shame?

Obviously fucken not….. That twat playing Kurt Cobain…. this is the sign of the end times……

and its past 5, im off for a drink…..

 
 

Confederate Wanker once again proves what happens if you spend enough time sniffing your own farts in a confined space.

 
 

Gosh, all this time I thought Ronald Reagan destroyed the Russian threat, but apparently they were still menacing us with nukes well into the new millennium. Thanks for teaching us what a miserable failure he was, Wankee!

 
 

Palin’s view of nuclear weapons was shaped by her stint as the commander in chief of the Alaskan National Guard, our first line of defense against Soviet nuclear weapons.

Yes, because we all know that, if Russia had launched a nuclear attack, the Alaska National Guard would have … um … uh … thrown snowballs at the ICBMs as they flew overhead.

Or maybe lined up some mööse along the border to make a Fortress of Impenetrable Greatness.*

That may sound silly, but mööse bites can be pretty nastï.

(Veiled chastity belt reference?)

 
Lurking Canadian
 

The thought of having Palin in command of our nuclear arsenal is pretty much the most terrifying thing I can think of. Jesus Christ.

As I’ve said before, Palin is exactly the crazy/evil politician from The Dead Zone, except she hides behind her own baby instead of just picking one at random.

 
 

From Spiny Norman’s link:

[There was] a general atmosphere and attitude that the American people could not be trusted with the uncertainities, and therefore the information was withheld from them. I think there was concern that the American people, given the facts, would not make the right risk-benefit judgments.

*pffft* Of course!

What did they think this was, a democracy or something?

 
 

That may sound silly, but mööse bites can be pretty nastï.

A Møøse once bit my sister …
No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse

 
 

In other news, my teen years are RUINED.

So … Cobain will be all sparkly?

Okay, that joke blew.

Nevermind.

 
 

Palin is exactly the crazy/evil politician from The Dead Zone, except she hides behind her own baby instead of just picking one at random.

Except in the movie it cost him the election.

Here in real life, not so much.

 
 

You know, I was a couple of years too old to get the whole Nirvana thing, but thie Twilight asshole playing doesn’t make any sense. He doesn’t even look like him. At least whatshername LOOKED like Joan Jett.

 
 

So … Cobain will be all sparkly?

Before they pick out the shotgun pellets…

 
 

BTW, I was going to point out that Ace, given the Mall Ninja knowledge of the military he has, appeared to be suggesting that state governors have control over nuclear weapons, but I see everyone else already beat me to it.

 
 

Please ignore typos.

You know, I was a couple of years too old to get the whole Nirvana thing, but this Twilight asshole playing Cobain doesn’t make any sense. He doesn’t even look like him. At least whatshername LOOKED like Joan Jett.

 
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Nevermind.

Oh, shit. Are we on Nirvana puns now?

 
 

Hey folks, I have a new post up – finally – at my shitty blog, and no one is reading it. Feel free to drop by if you get bored.

And Lurking Canadian, I’m sure I’ll have to use this: “… Palin is exactly the crazy/evil politician from The Dead Zone, except she hides behind her own baby instead of just picking one at random.”

 
 

In all seriousness, the Confederate Yankee is a serious site? Like, not parody? Please, my head hurts already. Tell me this isn’t so.

 
 

Oh, shit. Are we on Nirvana puns now?

I’ll have to ask my Senseless Apprentice.

 
 

NATURE IS ALL PORNOGRAPHIC AND STUFF!

From Wikipedia’s “Did You Know”:

… that the nematode Skrjabinoclava kinsellai is characterized by the presence of shoe-like and nipple-like structures?

NIPPLES! OMFG!!11`12 WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN

 
 

Then, in October of that year, following Russia’s space launch of Sputnik I, the American scientific community came under considerable pressure to achieve a major technological accomplishment of its own. At the University of California’s Lawrence Radiati on Laboratory, scientists responded by recommending to the AEC that earth excavation offered the “highest probability of early beneficial success” in the Plowshare Program.

Actively supporting the proposal, Dr. Edward Teller, ‘father of the hydrogen bomb’ and director of the Radiation Laboratory, suggested that the AEC detonate a 2.4 megaton atomic device on t he northwest coast of Alaska in the region of Cape Thompson. Such an explosion would create a deep water hole to be used as a harbor for the eventual shipment of coal, oil, and other non-renewable resources thought to exist along this part of the coast.

After exploring several other possibilities, the AEC accepted Teller’s proposal and on June 9th, 1958 publically gave it a name – `Project Chariot.’ Four days previously, unknown to the people of Point Hope and other nearby Inupiat villages, Lewis Straus s, then chairman of the AEC, had requested the withdrawal from the public domain of 1600 square miles of land and water in the area of Cape Thompson – including land villagers had earlier sought under the Alaska Native Allotment Act.

 
 

Obviously fucken not….. That twat playing Kurt Cobain…. this is the sign of the end times……

As I’ve said recently regarding this revelation: “The Apocalypse came while we were at the drive-through, and we’re just slogging through the aftermath.”

 
 

Oh, shit. Are we on Nirvana puns now?

Oh well, whatever.

 
 

the nematode Skrjabinoclava kinsellai is characterized by the presence of shoe-like-less joejackson

Fixed for literary allegory

 
 

Oh, shit. Are we on Nirvana puns now?

Yeah, I shoulda kept that one in utero.

That’s what I get for typing with the lights out.

 
 

Yeah, I shoulda kept that one in utero.

That’s what I get for typing with the lights out.

Bleach.

For branes.

 
 

OK, I am I the only member of generation X that thought the entire grunge movement Nirvana and Pearl Jam especially were pretty freaking tedious?
Seriously, when Cobain offed himself, I groaned because I just knew that the music press was going to put him on the same pedestal with Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix as a musical genius who died too young?

 
 

Yeah, I shoulda kept that one in utero.

That’s what I get for typing with the lights out.

Bleach.

For branes.

All apologies. That joke was full of Beans.

 
 

I am sorry that Herve Villachez died too soon to play Cobain in this biopic.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

All apologies. That joke was full of Beans.

Keep this punning up, and I’m going to need some lithium.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

OK, I am I the only member of generation X that thought the entire grunge movement Nirvana and Pearl Jam especially were pretty freaking tedious?

Yes.

No, of course not. But they were pretty fucking important to me, as a disaffected rural Kansas youth.

And Jim Morrison was not a musical genius.

 
 

OK, I am I the only member of generation X that thought the entire grunge movement Nirvana and Pearl Jam especially were pretty freaking tedious?

No. No you’re not.

While I give credit to them for putting hair metal in the grave (except for Steel Panther, who KICKS ASS), I never saw what the fascination was for Cobain.

There is simply not a single thing he did—not his songwriting, playing, or singing—that comes anywhere close to what Hendrix, Morrison, or even Stevie Ray Vaughan did musically. He was average. At best.

And I think it’s fairly clear the Grohl had the talent in that group.

 
 

Oh, I should’ve noted that I am, in fact, a negative creep.

But the lithium is in bloom, so …

 
 

And Jim Morrison was not a musical genius.

*GASP*

First, you wanna hate on the Beatles, that’s OK. Everyone knows you can’t be sane.

But to be INsane AND hate on Jim MORRISON?

I’m afraid I’ll have to ask you to step outside for satisfaction!

 
 

And I think it’s fairly clear the Grohl had the talent in that group.

Mos Def (who is really good too).

 
 

Oh, yes. Also, if she wanted, Sarah Palin would totally fight Putin naked “Eastern Promises” style.

*blink,blink*
*settles back in chair*

I think I could stick around and have another beer

 
 

There is simply not a single thing he did—not his songwriting, playing, or singing—that comes anywhere close to what Hendrix, Morrison, or even Stevie Ray Vaughan did musically.

Funny, because I thought Cobain and maybe Eddie Vedder were the only grunge things worth a shit (OK, Grohl too, but he let himself be overshadowed by Cobain).

I loved Cobain’s lyric streak and his ability to express his feelings in words and thru his music was genuine. I never got the sense that he was ever going thru the motions when he played.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Oh, I should’ve noted that I am, in fact, a negative creep.

Well, I was pretty flippant and bitchy about Jim Morrison, so I’m a total downer.

 
 

Back to topic.. This comment over at the Yankee got me slappin the ol’ knee:

Silly me, thinking that the first line of defense against Soviet nuclear weapons was the dissolution of the Soviet Union

I wonder if that is the same Jim as who posts here at S,N!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

But to be INsane AND hate on Jim MORRISON?

I don’t hate Jim Morrison.

Actually, I kind of do.

I don’t hate The Beatles, though. Scoff if you want, but can’t a girl dislike a band but still appreciate their influence and some of their discography?

 
 

I admit, there’s a little bit of a cult of personality around Obama. I’m guilty of spreading it. Of course, the reason is that he’s smarter than me, and doesn’t freak out under pressure they way I might do. Basically, he’s better suited to run the country than I am.

Where the fuck does the cult of personality around Sarah Palin come from? You might say the same about her as you did about GWB, but at least Dubya served an entire fucking term as governor (in a state with the weakest executive in the country, but still). What, exactly, has she ever accomplished as an executive?

Also, how much worse than the conservative movement get? During the Dubya years, I was longing for Reagan because he seemed reasonable by comparison. If Palin got elected I think I would seriously start to remember Dubya fondly. How fucked up is that?

 
 

I never got the sense that he was ever going thru the motions when he played.

Oh, I never doubted his sincerity. But that does not a musical genius make.

I mean, the band I play in once a week is sincere as well, but we aren’t getting a contract any time soon.

We just come as we are, and there’s no pay to play.

 
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I loved Cobain’s lyric streak and his ability to express his feelings in words and thru his music was genuine. I never got the sense that he was ever going thru the motions when he played.

Agreed. I was actually just thinking this morning about him and his propensity to wear dresses and how cool that was in context of the type of music he was playing.

And he always gets shit for being a bad guitar player. He was actually a pretty good guitar player.

 
 

Scoff if you want, but can’t a girl dislike a band but still appreciate their influence and some of their discography?

It’s a little hard not to, when you talk about the Beatles, the single biggest influence on music after 1963.

Or Jim Morrison, who did more for live performers than anyone since Elvis.

 
 

So whoever did JUST A REGULAR GUY (THE ORIGINAL) at Wankee’s place, kudos.

Martini?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

It’s a little hard not to, when you talk about the Beatles, the single biggest influence on music after 1963.

Or Jim Morrison, who did more for live performers than anyone since Elvis.

I certainly don’t discount them at all–The Beatles were a great band, and I used to be a pretty big Doors fan. Obviously, the music I love wouldn’t exist without their influences.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I like the Rolling Stones and The Who. Does that redeem me?

 
 

He was actually a pretty good guitar player.

That’s the thing: he was good. But not great.

And yet a frightening number of people treat him as some sort of musical god. He wasn’t. He was a guy in a band that decided to revert back to stripped down music and attitude in a time when flashy and fancy and complex ruled the day. For that they deserve credit.

But to place him in the same category as other rockers who died way too young is abfuckingsurd.

That just IMHO, spank thru very much …

 
 

I mean, the band I play in once a week is sincere as well, but we aren’t getting a contract any time soon.

Yea, but can you write a song that deconstructs your friend’s born-again parents as good as “Lithium”?

 
 

I like the Rolling Stones and The Who. Does that redeem me?

Oh, the guilt …

😉

 
 

I like the Rolling Stones and The Who. Does that redeem me?

Depends.

Led Zep? And be really careful here.

 
 

Where the fuck does the cult of personality around Sarah Palin come from?

People who love loudmouth ignorant shits who heckle all the damn ay-leetist snootie-poos they’re convinced are lookin’ down on ’em, just because they’re dumb and loud and lazy and irrational. And also because she’s white and seems like she hates all them ‘foreign’ and inferior types like colored folk and non-Baptisty religions and city folk and people who can read & shit.

See, you or I thought it was some sort of negative that she couldn’t name a single newspaper she reads.

To the angry bitter paranoids, this was proof that she was on their side, ’cause, fuck, who but a traitor to the cause would read something other than the sports section and right wing columnists because all the rest is secular Satanist communist anti-American lies.

 
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And yet a frightening number of people treat him as some sort of musical god. He wasn’t. He was a guy in a band that decided to revert back to stripped down music and attitude in a time when flashy and fancy and complex ruled the day. For that they deserve credit.

Fair enough. I haven’t ran across anyone–even people who were huge Nirvana fans in their youth–who thought he was a rock god, but that’s certainly not to say it doesn’t exist.

And Nevermind is still an awesome album.

 
 

Yea, but can you write a song that deconstructs your friend’s born-again parents as good as “Lithium”?

Honestly? I’ve never tried to write a song.

Besides, I’m the drummer. I just accompany the actual musicians.

 
 

I haven’t ran across anyone–even people who were huge Nirvana fans in their youth–who thought he was a rock god

The impression I had at the time, and still have, is that most of the mourning was about his potential being lost, how he *could* have been a rock god if he’d gotten his act together and how we’ll never know now.

Odd, because I mourned the hurt he must have felt, but then I was never much for exploitations.

 
 

If anyone starts trashing Zep, we’re going to have a serious problem around here.

 
 

Besides, I’m the drummer. I just accompany the actual musicians.

Thus saving the rest of us typing all the drummer jokes we can remember.

Thank you for your honesty!

 
 

Stupak and Stevens are retiring. Coincidence?

 
 

Morrison was proof that the line between genius and madness is fine indeed.

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

OK, I am I the only member of generation X that thought the entire grunge movement Nirvana and Pearl Jam especially were pretty freaking tedious?

Not quite sure I’m Generation X (I’m on the cusp, if I remember correctly), but I never much cared for Nirvana. I do like their MTV Unplugged show, though, especially their version of In the Pines. The rest of it seemed like incoherent screaming to me.

 
 

Huh, I mourned the loss of the schadenfreude I expected to feel when in 10 years I had hoped to see Nirvana playing in beer tents at 3rd rate county fairs. But that was just me being mean.

 
 

If anyone starts trashing Zep, we’re going to have a serious problem around here.

They’re….good.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Led Zep? And be really careful here.

The Zep and I have a weird relationship, but they’re a great band. I think “Kashmir” is one of the greatest rock songs of all time.

 
 

Zep fuckin’ rules.

 
 

The Beatles suck. The Doors suck. The Who suck. The Rolling Stones suck.

All fucking old geezers who were past their prime 40 years ago.

 
 

I think “Kashmir” is one of the greatest rock songs of all time.

I’ll give you that one.

OK, you pass. Barely.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The impression I had at the time, and still have, is that most of the mourning was about his potential being lost, how he *could* have been a rock god if he’d gotten his act together and how we’ll never know now.

I hardly ever watched any of their performances after he died, especially as I have gotten closer to the age he was when he killed himself. He was obviously in so much pain that it’s difficult for me to handle. Similarly, I don’t watch Elliott Smith performances EVER, because they bring me to tears, and not in a good way.

 
 

Thank you for your honesty!

I know my limitations. 🙂

Back on topic:

While the mangoes are rarely worth it on ConfedYankme Island, the comments are pure gold. Totally worth checking out (I gotta get to work now, so check y’all later).

 
 

The Beatles suck. The Doors suck. The Who suck. The Rolling Stones suck.

Different music. You’d think differently if you were older.

 
 

“In all seriousness, the Confederate Yankee is a serious site? Like, not parody? Please, my head hurts already. Tell me this isn’t so.”

That’s what I wonder whenever I look at Fox, PJTV, the NRO, the Moonie Times, the Wall Street Journal, pretty much any right wing politician, and my own conservative acquaintances (possibly the most irritating of them all).

Yes, it is a serious site, and even if it wasn’t, there are thousands of people out there who will take everything it says as such. Among the many things you can blame movement conservatism for, don’t forget the death of parody – no comedian can match the real world anymore.

 
 

I saw Kansas at a first rate county fare last year and they were phenomenal.

 
 

Or Jim Morrison, who did more for live performers than anyone since Elvis.

James Brown wants you to reconsider that statement.

 
 

They’re….good.

Agreed.

Page was a great riff guitarist (along with Angus Young, the two best at that in the history of rock and roll) but sloppy as all hell.

And I’m a better drummer than Bonham was. Which is sad, since I’m not exactly Neil Peart.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I saw Kansas at a first rate county fare last year and they were phenomenal.

Ha ha. That reminds me that they were at the same hotel we were staying in a few years ago. We were in Kansas City (after a Morrissey concert, I believe), and they were eating continental breakfast while we were there. We were trying to figure out who the hell they were when we say two dudes in Kansas t-shirts freaking the fuck out. It was weird.

 
 

And yet a frightening number of people treat him as some sort of musical god.

You know, the backlash “he wasn’t really any good” is just as bad. I liked his voice and liked what he did with it, and I’m sad for anyone in that much pain, which is pretty much all I’ve ever heard anyone say.

Wevs, I really just wanted to post that someone needs to add argumentum ad walrus baculum to the list of fellatious arguments.

 
 

Confederate Wanker once again proves what happens if you spend enough time sniffing your own farts in a confined space.

Smells like bean spirit? (Sorry, could not resist.)

Also, I agree with you, actor: no more besmirching of Jim Morrison, please.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The Beatles suck. The Doors suck. The Who suck. The Rolling Stones suck.

All fucking old geezers who were past their prime 40 years ago.

Half the people in those bands are dead, dude. But way to be punk rock!

 
 

Or Jim Morrison, who did more for live performers than anyone since Elvis.

James Brown wants you to reconsider that statement.

Amended. Mea culpa. But then Brown never slung his schwanz at an audience.

 
 

This is funny — FoxNooz’ own poll about Americans’ opinions of the TeaTardists shows that a higher number of Americans view the IRS as favorable than the TeaTards.

Ouch.

 
 

But way to be punk rock!

Are you TRYING to call down the ghost of The Fool?????

And RIP Malcolm McClaren. Gonna miss the old bastard. He found the NY Dolls and made it OK to be seen at Max’s Kansas City…

 
Socraticsilence
 

Even funnier- Nuclear Weapons management was one of Obama’s few signature issues in the Senate- he travelled to the caucuses with Lugar, and according to the Indiana Senator was a strong student on the issues (which is saying something- whatever his other flaws Richard Lugar has been the nations foremost Nuclear Policy figure for nearly 2 decades).

 
 

Palin’s view of nuclear weapons was shaped by her stint as the commander in chief of the Alaskan National Guard

Right….where they didn’t have any, last time I looked.

 
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But then Brown never slung his schwanz at an audience.

Thank God. The only person who should be doing that kind of shit is Iggy Pop. And GG Allin, but he’s dead.

 
The Goddamn Batman Is The First Line Of Defense Against Psychopaths With Interesting Choices In Grooming And Haberdashery
 

I wonder if there isn’t some room for coming up with something like Palin Derangement Syndrome, only with the opposite meaning of Bush/Clinton/Obama/Whomever Derangement Syndrome. Instead of frothing at the mouth about your subject of obsession, you attribute to them qualities and virtues that not only do they patently not possess, but that that particular person cannot possibly possess. In the process of trying to make out Palin to be some sort of steely-eyed warrior queen, you make the point pretty clear that you don’t want her anywhere near the button, or for that matter to go on a tour of a nuclear power plant where she’s closer than five feet to any controls.

And yet, they go on and on, desperate to outdo each other in their show of devotion to her. Look for Bob Owens proclaiming that she can make oil erupt from dry wells with a wave of her magic wand.

 
 

“People who love loudmouth ignorant shits who heckle all the damn ay-leetist snootie-poos they’re convinced are lookin’ down on ‘em, just because they’re dumb and loud and lazy and irrational.”

That’s definitely one of the funniest things about conservative victimology. Once and for all, city folk, college students and high-falutin’ society people don’t “look down” on you. City folk, college students and high-falutin’ society people don’t fucking care about you one way or the other, a fact that holds true from the highest circles of power to the poorest janitor in Southeast DC. It’s a simple, but important distinction.

 
 

Any band which didn’t start playing 2 years ago (whenever this statement is made) is hideously outdated and trapping us all in their rigid, dying style.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

And I realize I just referenced a joke that nobody else will get and will take too long to explain.

 
 

The only person who should be doing that kind of shit is Iggy Pop

The Red Hot Chili Peppers would like a word…

 
The Goddamn Batman Needs To Proofread His Stuff A Little More Carefully
 

Rather, they make the point that you don’t want her, &c. Fuck it, it’s both Friday and payday. Who wants a pint?

 
 

As an Army vet, in answer to your rhetorical question, I think I would stick with the guy who got through Harvard law and won the election, over the one who quit her job halfway through.

Posted by: Repack Rider at April 9, 2010 09:27 AM

Theirs a commiislamofashist in our mist.

 
 

The Red Hot Chili Peppers would like a word…

But they wore knitted, er, p*nis socks, didn’t they? Or am I thinking of a different photo?

 
 

Re the Nirvana biopic:

If you think of it as an opportunity to see Eddie Cullen eat a shotgun, it becomes much more promising.

Also, to be fair, a lot of Twimoms were teens or twentysomethings in the ’90s, so it’s a tempting demographic (especially since it’s obvious they’re willing to piss away a lot of money on their obsession du jour).

 
 

And I realize I just referenced a joke that nobody else will get and will take too long to explain.

Nobody?

What? You think I don’t have friends who went to the funeral???

 
 

Where the fuck does the cult of personality around Sarah Palin come from?

Those Naught Monkey red pumps.

 
 

The Beatles suck. The Doors suck. The Who suck. The Rolling Stones suck.

All fucking old geezers who were past their prime 40 years ago.

Your time is gonna come!

 
 

City folk, college students and high-falutin’ society people don’t fucking care about you one way or the other, a fact that holds true from the highest circles of power to the poorest janitor in Southeast DC. It’s a simple, but important distinction.

This is just a style.

You can be an actual rich, elitist, snobby fuck, driving your Benz to the exclusive golf course and living in your gawdy Insta-Mansion, eating at 4 star restaurants, but if you play the Eastern librul hatin’ act, then suddenly you’re just part of the common man front what’s got to stand up to all these high falutin’ types (with their $20K / yr salaries and living in shared housing and eating ramen noodles) who look down on you.

 
 

This is funny — FoxNooz’ own poll about Americans’ opinions of the TeaTardists shows that a higher number of Americans view the IRS as favorable than the TeaTards.

Ouch.

Funny, except that now we can expect Fux N00bs to redouble their efforts to ram a teapot down our pristine, lilly-white throats.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The Red Hot Chili Peppers would like a word…

They may do it, but it doesn’t mean they should.

What? You think I don’t have friends who went to the funeral???

Are they scarred for life?

 
 

/But way to be punk rock!/

Shalom punk bitchez! I ran into Lemmy at the Aragon and he told me about this time he and Sir Paul were discussing the infamous “up on the backstroke” technique. It was mad lulz, yo!

 
 

LitBrit, you have the oddest way of popping up.*

Yes, socks. And nothing else. And they performed that way, which sort of let the schwanz schwing.

*veiled penis reference

 
 

OK, I am I the only member of generation X that thought the entire grunge movement Nirvana and Pearl Jam especially were pretty freaking tedious?

No. No you’re not.

While I give credit to them for putting hair metal in the grave (except for Steel Panther, who KICKS ASS), I never saw what the fascination was for Cobain.

There is simply not a single thing he did–not his songwriting, playing, or singing–that comes anywhere close to what Hendrix, Morrison, or even Stevie Ray Vaughan did musically. He was average. At best.

And I think it’s fairly clear the Grohl had the talent in that group.

This.

To my mind, Nirvana was always a poor imitation of The Replacements, minus Westerberg’s humanity. I, too, cursed the day Cobain killed himself, for the same reasons mentioned upthread. Without his suicide, the band would be a Trivial Pursuit question by now.

And the moment I’ll always savor was when they were playing the MTV Music Awards, and Novoselic threw his bass up in the air, only to have it come down, smack him on the head and put him out cold. The essence of Nirvana in a microcosm. FAIL.

 
 

Stupak and Stevens are retiring. Coincidence?

Has anyone seen them in the same room together?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Where the fuck does the cult of personality around Sarah Palin come from?

Those Naught Monkey red pumps.

Really? I have shoes like those, and teabaggers aren’t running around talking about my “executive experience.” Not that I’d want them to.

 
 

Are they scarred for life?

The ones who went thru rehab, yes.

The ones who didn’t? Its more like “scarred for the half-life”

 
 

I have shoes like those

I!!!!!!!!!!

W? N?

 
 

Look for Bob Owens proclaiming that she can make oil erupt from dry wells with a wave of her magic wand.

Double veiled PENIS reference!

+200 points!

 
 

Shalom punk bitchez! I ran into Lemmy at the Aragon and he told me about this time he and Sir Paul were discussing the infamous “up on the backstroke” technique. It was mad lulz, yo!

Wow! Troll mosaic!

All it needed was a little Iris and you’d have a pretty complete picture.

 
 

Smells like bean spirit? (Sorry, could not resist.)

I was thinking more along the lines of “Smells like Caribou Queen spirit.”

Or what comes out the south end of a north-bound caribou, at least.

You got to hand it to the Wankee, it’s nearly impossible to type when you’re that wired to the gills on Thorazine, methadone and Wild Turkey.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

This is funny — FoxNooz’ own poll about Americans’ opinions of the TeaTardists shows that a higher number of Americans view the IRS as favorable than the TeaTards.

Nice. That’s gotta sting.

 
 

FoxNooz’ own poll about Americans’ opinions of the TeaTardists shows that a higher number of Americans view the IRS as favorable than the TeaTards

Of course, one is hoping that the people being polled know what the IRS is, and isn’t thinking they’re hearing something like “Ayaris”, which sounds like a new Toyota.

 
 

Led Zep? And be really careful here.

I happened to catch “The Song Remains the Same” the other night on cable. What a weird experience. I probably saw that show a dozen times in HS and college, always at a midnight showing (remember those?), and always in a, shall we say, “altered state of consciousness”. I had forgotten both how amazing the performances was (filmed in 1972, IIRC), and how lame and cheesy the little video inserts were.

 
 

Meh, I have waaaay hotter red shoes than those El Cheapo Monkey things. And boots that stop traffic. But no-one thinks I should have nuke codes.

Maybe if I stopped creating my own stuff and started signing my name to things I didn’t even read, much less write…

Oh, and actor, are you calling me a dick? 😉

 
 

Did you read about her speech to the wine wholesalers?

She apparently doesn’t know enough about wine to talk about it credibly Aaccording to an article in Slate she talked a whole lot about how government regulation is so bad and ought to be gotten rid of to help small businesses. Problem is, the group she was talking to – wine wholesalers and distributers – WANTS interstate government regulation of wine distribution. Most state laws require a wholesaler between producers (wineries) and consumers. wholesalers have opposed deregulation of wine distribution, because it would cut into their lock on the business.

Apparently the audience response was underwhelming.

 
 

The Red Hot Chili Peppers would like a word…

As would Gwar

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I!!!!!!!!!!

W? N?

You and the slightly creepy dude who works in my office.

And only if people start calling me the Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard.

 
 

Am I the only one who feels that the evolution of music stopped at banging two rocks together?!?!

Hey, man! Fuck-ate-about-it, everyone knows if you complain about
something new it just means you’re a relic!

 
 

it’s nearly impossible to type when you’re that wired to the gills on thorazine, methadone and Wild Turkey.

Confederate Jesus Juice.

 
 

Problem is, the group she was talking to – wine wholesalers and distributers – WANTS interstate government regulation of wine distribution.

FAAAAAAAIIIIIILLLLL!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Meh, I have waaaay hotter red shoes than those El Cheapo Monkey things. And boots that stop traffic. But no-one thinks I should have nuke codes.

Have you tried leopard print? I’ve found that works pretty well…

 
 

She apparently doesn’t know enough about wine to talk about it credibly

She was unfairly presented with a “gotcha” question about if she had wines she liked to drink, and she responded yes, and then was asked which ones, and she stammered “Oh, you know, some of them, all of them…”

 
 

You and the slightly creepy dude who works in my office.

you don’t work in my office do you?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

She apparently doesn’t know enough about wine to talk about it credibly

What are you talking about? She’s tried all the varieties of Franzia!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

you don’t work in my office do you?

Doug?

 
 

What are you talking about? She’s tried all the varieties of Franzia!

I envision her as more of a Boone’s Farm type person.

 
 

Doug?

Sadly, no

Tim

I am the slightly creepy guy at someone else’s office then.

 
 

Have you tried leopard print? I’ve found that works pretty well…

To get nuclear code? I haven’t tried, but….

 
 

Truculent, yes–leopard sandals as well as stiletto pumps with adorable sparkly buckles. (Leopard goes with everything because it goes with nothing.) And still, they won’t trust me with their big missiles.

It’s the IQ thing, I’m certain of it. They can handle a woman who’s smart, as long as she seems frumpy; they’ll drool over a woman who wears high heels and tight skirts, as long as she confirms their perception of attractive-woman-as-stupid-bimbo every time she opens her mouth.

But ne’er the twain should meet–attractively dressed AND intelligent–lest their tiny heads spin so fast they become detached from their moorings.

 
The Next Battle
 

So liberals, do you think we’re just going to roll over and let Hopey nominate whoever he wants to the Supreme Court this time?

No! No more playing nice. There’s going to be a Battle Royale over this nominee, who will no doubt be a far-left, lightweight, affirmative action pick. We’re going nuclear, baby, we’re going to treat this nominee just like the far left treated Bork back in the ’80s.

Obama thinks he has a political machine that owns Washington, but he will find out he is sadly mistake. Block, block, block. We’ll make it impossible for him to get a nominee in before the mid-terms.

 
 

But ne’er the twain should meet–attractively dressed AND intelligent–lest their tiny heads spin so fast they become detached from their moorings.

I beg to differ. Those are just really hard to come by and when they do they just keep going. *tear*

On a happier note, young and dumb is a good back up plan.

 
 

TruculentandUnreliable gives me a Queers link first thing in the morning.

This is going to be a wonderful day.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I envision her as more of a Boone’s Farm type person.

Good point.

But ne’er the twain should meet–attractively dressed AND intelligent–lest their tiny heads spin so fast they become detached from their moorings.

I know. It truly is a thing of beauty, and makes me want to develop High Femme as an art.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

And yes, leopard is totally a neutral.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

On a happier note, young and dumb is a good back up plan.

Yeah, until you get old.

TruculentandUnreliable gives me a Queers link first thing in the morning.

This is going to be a wonderful day.

Yay! Glad I could help.

 
 

I think it’s finally time for Obama to man up and put Bill Ayers on the Supreme Court.

 
 

I think it’s finally time for Obama to man up and put Bill Ayers on the Supreme Court.

We’ve been over this before. The only man for the job is Ward Churchill.

 
 

Jim Morrison, musical genius:

Ride the snake,
Ride the snake,
To the lake.
He’s old,
And his skin is cold.

I rest my case.

 
 

We’ve been over this before. The only man for the job is Ward Churchill

AHEM.

 
The Next Battle
 

We will demand somebody who reads the Constitution plainly, with common sense, and puts the proper chains on government action, not somebody who believes in so-called “Social Justice” (code word for wealth redistribution) or “empathy”. A real judge should LACK empathy and lay down the LETTER OF THE LAW!

 
The Endless Battle
 

We will demand somebody who reads the Constitution plainly, with no sense, and puts the proper chains on women at Club Voyeur, not somebody who believes in so-called “Social Justice” (code word for Helping Your Fellow Man/Woman) or “empathy”– we prefer “apathy”. A real judge should LACK morals and lay down the LETTER OF THE GOP!

 
Progressive Center Left Grrl Voice of Truth
 

Are these boots that stop traffic perhaps tennis shoes hot-glued to two T-34 tanks?

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

And the moment I’ll always savor was when they were playing the MTV Music Awards, and Novoselic threw his bass up in the air, only to have it come down, smack him on the head and put him out cold. The essence of Nirvana in a microcosm. FAIL.

Yeah, that summed it up pretty well. I got a little bit of schadenfreude out of it even though I *work* with people with head injuries and cringe instead of laughing when someone gets walloped.

Page was a great riff guitarist (along with Angus Young, the two best at that in the history of rock and roll) but sloppy as all hell.

True. The studio versions are better, but there’s a LOT of variability in their live sessions. Some are spectacular, and some are virtually unlistenable.

I do love “How Many More Times,” though, and “When the Levee Breaks,” and “Kashmir,” and….

 
 

“When the Levee Breaks” and “Four Sticks” are two of my favorite tunes of all time.

Along with “Dig a Pony” for whoever was ragging on the Beatles.

 
 

BREAKING: After leaving three unreturned voicemail messages, CNN has sent a crack team of attornies, producers and assorter flunkies in an effort to locate and sign Confederate Yankee as a new on-air personality.
.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

AHEM.

Oooh, that would be delicious!

 
 

I would make a bet with Satan that Palin never even uttered the phrase “nuclear weapon” in her entire life until August of 08.

 
 

I would make a bet with Satan that Palin never even uttered the phrase “nuclear weapon” in her entire life until August of 08.

She has but everyone thought she was talking about a new clearing gun or something.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I would make a bet with Satan that Palin never even uttered the phrase “nuclear weapon” in her entire life until August of 08.

She did, but she was talking about Todd’s cock.

 
 

Given the choice between great lyrics and OK music and vice versa, I’ll take vice versa every time.

 
 

He will find out he is sadly mistake.

Proof the justice of your culture, Troofy!

 
 

But ne’er the twain should meet–attractively dressed AND intelligent–.

Personally I really go for a smart woman in a real short skirt.

lest their tiny heads spin so fast
Veiled small penis reference.

 
 

AHEM.

My nipples explode with delight!

We will demand somebody who reads the Constitution plainly blah fuckety blah

U R DUM and you lie like a rug.

Are these boots that stop traffic perhaps tennis shoes hot-glued to two T-34 tanks?

I’ve never been a big show girl, but HOT DAMN.

 
 

SHOE goddammit

 
 

Progressive Center Left Grrl, no hot-glue, a href=”http://highheelsblog.com/?p=596″>just hot boots. Too hot to wear in Florida as of…this week. But November is just around the corner. Nice thing about owning boots here is the long life they have–with just a couple of wearings per season, you get to enjoy them for years.

 
 

ugh, boot link fail. Try this.

 
 

AHEM.

Yeah, I remember that. ‘Twould be sweet. Curiously , John Dean, yes that John Dean, the little weasel) told me that the then chair of the Judiciary Committee had but did not reveal very strong evidence that Anita Hill was right, that Thomas was a big fat liar. The chairman was pilloried by many for his handling on the mess but no one ever knew whether there was any undeniable evidence. Dean said he knows for a fact that there was and that the chairman held it back. The chair at the time? Joe Biden. No shit.

 
Willem van Oranje
 

You could have made this even funnier by linking to this article where Palin’s “military command” over the Alaska National Guard is outlined: http://www.adn.com/2008/09/04/515499/palins-military-command-limited.html

 
 

RE: AHEM

Oh please, oh please, oh please make it so, President Obama. Delicious indeed!

 
 

The whole “liberals look down on us” thing is just projection. THEY look down on liberals, intellectuals, city-dwellers, etc. It’s the whole anti-egghead thing that’s been going on for at least 50 years.

Palinites/teabaggers embrace the victim role so enthusiastically because deep down, they know it’s the best cover ever for their aggression and destructive urges, which have been channeled by their leader/justifiers towards their “enemies”–the very people who could move this country forward.

A lesson from history: scratch a professional victim, find a perpetrator.

 
Monkey Child of the Dragon King
 

Of course Palin has never uttered the phrase “nuclear weapon” in her entire life. She says “nookular.” And that’s not an Inupiat word.

 
 

I really gotta take a break from this place. I guessed the final blockquote was from TIDOS before I scrolled over the link and confirmed it.

Mark ye: I now recognize the writing style of Bob Owens on sight.

 
 

Can we skip to the part where Justice Michael Moore poses for the ’10-’11 Supreme Court photo and Troofie moves the goalposts to 2013?

 
 

Wevs, I really just wanted to post that someone needs to add argumentum ad walrus baculum to the list of fellatious arguments.

Tig – also, Confederate Yankee’s misguided defense of Sarah Palin clearly commits the fallacy of argumentum ad fapfapfapulum.

 
 


I would make a bet with Satan that Palin never even uttered the phrase “nuclear weapon” in her entire life until August of 08.

she did, but she said ‘nukular’.

 
 

What’s really sad is that DA’s parody is both less hilarious & more lucid than the original … that is, if “sad” were to mean “utterly goddamn ROTFLMAO funny.”

For the record: much as I’d like to take credit for it, I am NOT the guy who made the “Soviet Union” comment on Cornpone’s blog.

I’m the guy who told him to just delete the fucking thing pronto & pretend that screencaps are just an ugly rumor. It was just so … so PATHETIC … it’s actually kind of hard to even flame someone who’s falcon-punching themselves with brass-knuckles on in public like that, even for a rotten black-hearted poltroon like me who acutely enjoys such activity – so I had to offer him some good advice too (knowing damn well it’d probably be ignored).

When in doubt, just remember that I remain fanatically dedicated to using the pretentious as hell anarcho-feminist lower-case “j” in jim, & probably always will – because that’s just how I like to barrel-roll.

He’s being devoured like a hemophiliac cutter in a piranha-tank in the comments, by the by … it’s the loveliest spectacle of epic pwnage I’ve seen in quite some time.

 
 

Regarding your rock and roll so-called music, Leck mich im Arsch.

 
 

Bwah ha ha ha ha! If you think Palin and Bachmann drive liberals crazy now, just wait until the 112th Congress convenes in January 2011, when there will be dozens of Palins and Bachmanns.

That is not funny.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

That is not funny.

If it were to actually happen, it would not be funny. But it’s not going to. Therefore, it’s funny.

 
 

in January 2011, when there will be dozens of Palins and Bachmanns

They breed THAT fast?

 
 

But it’s not going to

……phew……. I quite literally had a mild heart attack.

And DA, thanks for posting that newsrealblog article. I’ve been “discussing” things with a few rather unsharpened pencils over there and I just destroyed another monitor. The bill is in the mail.

 
 

ozens of Palins and Bachmanns

That worries me. If it it did come to pass, surely that would exceed the critical mass of crazyst00pid and the universe will collapse in on itself.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

……phew……. I quite literally had a mild heart attack.

If it did happen, what else could you do *but* laugh? I mean, besides killing yourself.

 
 


dozens of Palins and Bachmanns

veiled Sorcerer’s Apprentice reference.

 
 

Wevs, I really just wanted to post that someone needs to add argumentum ad walrus baculum to the list of fellatious arguments.

I added argumentum ad your mom to the list of fellatio arguments.

 
 

If it did happen, what else could you do *but* laugh? I mean, besides killing yourself

I hear Fiji is nice every day of the year.

 
 

The GOP has devolved into the party of Guns, Jerks and Steele.

(with apologies to Jared Diamond)

 
 

There’s going to be a Battle Royale

Ooohhhh, someone is all Frenchy!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I hear Fiji is nice every day of the year.

Dude, I would have to get out of this galaxy before I would feel safe with those conditions.

People are live-tweeting Palin’s speech at the SLRC, by the way. Apparently she described the Israel/Palestine conflict as a “minor zoning issue.”

 
 

Oh dear, this comment over there was awesome (there is indeed a pwnage bloodbath in progress):

Confederate Yankee: Where Brain Cells Come to Commit Suicide

 
 

Meh, I have waaaay hotter red shoes than those El Cheapo Monkey things. And boots that stop traffic. But no-one thinks I should have nuke codes.

INTEREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Website? Newsletter?

Oh, and actor, are you calling me a dick? 😉

Why, no, but I would like to show you my….etchings.

 
 

Apparently she described the Israel/Palestine conflict as a “minor zoning issue.”

Right, and her book was “non-fiction”.

 
 

And only if people start calling me the Commander-in-Chief of the Alaska National Guard.

Promise to wear “fuck me pumps” when we meet, and I’ll pay call you anything you like!

 
 

So liberals, do you think we’re just going to roll over and let Hopey nominate whoever he wants to the Supreme Court this time?

No, we expect you to whine and bitch and moan about stuff being rammed down your throat and THEN roll over and show us your ass.

 
 

On a happier note, young and dumb is a good back up plan.

Yeah, until you get old.

What? I’m old and young and dumb can still turn my head.

Oh. Wait. You mean…nevermind.

 
 

So liberals, do you think we’re just going to roll over and let Hopey nominate whoever he wants to the Supreme Court this time?

No, we expect you to whine and bitch and moan about stuff being rammed down your throat and THEN roll over and show us your ass.

Hell, they’d do that even if Obama nominated whoever they want. In fact, I’d almost like to see Obama nominate the perfect wingnut candidate and watch them fight it tooth and nail just because Obama did the nominating.

 
 

There’s going to be a Battle Royale

Ooohhhh, someone is all Frenchy!

Here in the States, we call it the Battle Quarter Pounder.

 
 

So liberals, do you think we’re just going to roll over and let Hopey nominate whoever he wants to the Supreme Court this time?

How are you going to stop him from nominating whomever he wants?

 
 

signs of the post-hcr gop fatigue in palin’s spiked slogans:

repeal and replace!

(scattered outbreaks of lukewarmness)

don’t retreat, reload but don’t let the media talk you into thinking this is a call for violence it’s really about exercising our rights at the ballot box

(cheers from the society for the promotion of subordinate clauses)

drill in even more places than the president allowed baby drill!

(oil company applause claque missing in action – found whooping it up at a shemale-themed artistic performance bar and grill)

 
 

Roll them over lay them down and do it again
Roll them over in the clover, roll them over lay them down and do it again

 
 

WIN from the ongoing flamefest at wankee:


Well, I don’t know for sure, but it sounds like some kind of homophobia thing you’ve got going there. That kind where you’re scared that I’m the pitcher and you’re the catcher? Tell me, what is it with you people (and by that I mean wingnuts) that you constantly live in fear of being dominated by gay people? I mean, I’m not gay but I can read ham-handed sideways not-as-clever-as-you-think-you-are invocations of homosexual rape imagery when I see it. Mainly that’s because you are not as clever as you think you are.
So tell me, what is with all the fantasies from you people about being the passive victim of homosexual rape?

Posted by: soonergrunt at April 9, 2010 01:13 PM

Awesomeness.

 
 

do you think we’re just going to roll over and let

Manfully Dispute To The Death The As Yet Unknown Person Who Will Probably Be Mildly Controversial!!!!

 
 

So liberals, do you think we’re just going to roll over and let Hopey nominate whoever he wants to the Supreme Court this time?

The preznit doesn’t get to decide all for himself. It’s unconsitushul!

 
 

(cheers from the society for the promotion of subordinate clauses)

I am in awe.

 
 

Governor Half-Life* just called President Obama a “part time Senator”

* courtesy Lizz Winstead.

 
 

I’d almost like to see Obama nominate the perfect wingnut candidate and watch them fight it tooth and nail just because Obama did the nominating.

Harriet Miers! Now that would be awesome!

 
 

But if it gets a promotion it will no longer be a subordinate clause!

 
 

OMG!

FOX News cuts away from covering Palin to cover Obama! Talking about the liberal Justice Stephens!

Will she EVER live it down? Is FOX now RINO’d?

 
 

Governor Half-Life* just called President Obama a “part time Senator”

Man, she is just the archetypical Heather, isn’t she?

It would be interesting to imagine how she’d be as Preznit, but I can’t spare the time or the brain cells to go through such a harrowing exercise.

All I can say is – the planet would be incinerated to a cinder over something as serious as Berlusconi patting her derrierre or the failure of Medved to serve King Crab at a dinner.

 
 

the failure of Medved to serve King Crab at a dinner

I don’t know that would cause an international crisis. After all, she can see her house from the Kremlin.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Promise to wear “fuck me pumps” when we meet, and I’ll paycall you anything you like!

Okay, but, erm…I like to be called Margaret Thatcher. It’s just this thing I have…

 
 

Okay, but, erm…I like to be called Margaret Thatcher. It’s just this thing I have…

OK, your ladyship….

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Man, she is just the archetypical Heather, isn’t she?

Yes. It’s fucking embarrassing. Apparently, being a “strong conservative woman” is about backstabbing and self-righteous bitchery.

 
 

Apparently, being a “strong conservative woman” is about backstabbing and self-righteous bitchery.

I was going to say don’t forget the failing upward, but that’s more conservatives in general.

 
 

being a “strong conservative woman” is about backstabbing and self-righteous bitchery.

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…bitter and sour.

 
 

The thing she said a week or so exhorting her followers to stop cars with Obama bumperstickers and ask them “How’s that hopey-changey stuff working our fer ya?” is a case in point.

Even if you give her the benefit of the doubt that she WASN’T encouraging road rage or violence, what is she doing? She’s asking her supporters to deliberate go taunt other people for their politics. And since she first said it, it was when HCR looked iffy, she somehow makes the assumption that Obama voters are disappointed, or unhappy with their choice. So it’s a call to taunt other people for their misfortune.

What the heck kind of political leader calls for her supporters to go out and make her opponents feel bad, to display glee at their supposed misfortune?

She’s exactly like the worst and most ridiculous of trolls. It’s pure troll-speech.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Shadow Moses Island

It’s like something from SMcG’s Janus Nodery.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

She’s exactly like the worst and most ridiculous of trolls.

She’s also a demagogue and a sociopath.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…bitter and sour.

And very, very white?

 
 

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…bitter and sour.

And very, very white?

Actually, I prefer my coffee very mocha coloured, so I guess I’d have to screw Michael Steele’s wife.

 
 

Thing is, Palin is *not* a strong conservative woman. She’s the antithesis of a strong woman, period. Rather, she’s a pretty face who was pageant-trained early on in life and as such, she has poise, she can speak in public, she knows how to catch someone’s attention when there are other attention-getting people around, and as for the rest, she relies on others to do her work for her. A city manager to run Wasilla; her husband (and a few others) to run Alaska (see the MSNBC-published emails? Every bit of Alaska business involved Todd, and he was cc’d on every email); a woman to write her book; a different woman and a man to pen her Facebook screeds and Op-eds.

The only “authentic” bit of Palin work was her resignation speech. The one that she wrote on cue-cards in oddly childish hand, with lots of asterisks and exclamation points; the one of which she was so proud, she posted its text on her Governor’s website.

The author Stephen Crane called such people “shining puppets”. And that’s exactly what Palin is: a shining puppet. Not a strong woman, conservative or liberal or libertarian. Puppet. That is all.

 
 

(Oh, and by “she can speak in public”, I meant, she can vocalize things in front of an audience without stage fright. I think we all know she can’t actually speak.)

 
 

The author Stephen Crane called such people “shining puppets”.

*shrug*

Beats a tube sock for masturbation…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

How’s that making a joke about community organizers that’s two years out of date thing working for you, Sarah?

Thing is, Palin is *not* a strong conservative woman.

No, she’s not. But she’s a manipulative bully, which is something conservatives regularly confuse with strength.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Beats a tube sock for masturbation…

OHHHHHHH, that’s why Mr. T&U loves puppets so much.

 
 

Never heard that before, librit:

These stupid peasants, who, throughout the world, hold potentates on their thrones, make statesmen illustrious, provide generals with lasting victories, all with ignorance, indifference, or half-witted hatred, moving the world with the strength of their arms, and getting their heads knocked together in the name of God, the king, or the stock exchange — immortal, dreaming, hopeless asses, who surrender their reason to the care of a shining puppet, and persuade some toy to carry their lives in his purse.
— STEPHEN CRANE.

thanks.

 
 

Post updated with new developments above.

 
 

Oh, and great quote from Sister Sarah. It’s been, what, almost 15 months and already President Obama hasn’t solved the problem of North Korea or Iran. What kind of lo-o-o-o-o-ozer is he, anyway?

 
 

“The Israeli/Palestinian controversy is a minor zoning dispute”=”The Pacific Ocean is moist”

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Oh, yes. Also, if she wanted, Sarah Palin would totally fight Putin naked “Eastern Promises” style.

Wouldn’t be the first time Putin got his ass kicked by a girl

 
 

DA, what’s the difference between what you posted and the update?

 
 

Sarah did a heckuva a job defending Alaska from a country that didn’t exist while she was governor. Really, the Soviets?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

we pause to alert you that our uppity POTUS has ’sassed’ the esteemed former part-time Alaska governor.

Miss Sarah, I don’t know nothin’ ’bout birthin’ no baby!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

You know, I was a couple of years too old to get the whole Nirvana thing, but this Twilight asshole playing Cobain doesn’t make any sense. He doesn’t even look like him. At least whatshername LOOKED like Joan Jett.

When the sun’s out, I’m so gleamy.
I’m so moody, yet so dreamy.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Shit. I really could have played that better. Time to go eat lunch.

 
 

I’m wondering what would be the actual response of the admittedly formidable Alaska National Guard be to a nuclear assault upon the US… One would surmise that said assault would not be targeting Alaska, itself, but perhaps Washington DC or New York City or some other strategically imporant location… most likely within the US proper… For instance, if they could see the missiles flying over head on their way to the lower 48, would they shake their fists and say “damn you, Putin”?

 
 

Wouldn’t be the first time Putin got his ass kicked by a girl

If that had been Mitt, he would have gone all nunchuk on the little slut.

 
 

“Palin’s view of nuclear weapons was shaped by her stint as the commander in chief of the Alaskan National Guard, our first line of defense against Soviet nuclear weapons.”

That’s like saying a single square of one-ply toilet paper is the first line of defense against the norovirus.

And also, what was Palin going to do? Wave to the missiles as they flew overhead to destroy actual places of importance?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

If that had been Mitt, he would have gone all nunchuk on the little slut.

Diet Coke. Up my nose.

 
 

I will never give up my devotion to the noble legacy of our Lost Clause.

 
 

On that Newsweek page, we have a winner, Code Guy said:

People really need to check facts before reporting here. Despite what Davole says, Russia has in fact honored their commitments under START 1 (Signed by Raegan/Gorbachev) and unlike the USA, they have not violated their NPT agreements (We violated under Bush II, who built a new generation of ‘smart nukes’).

Sarah Palin can’t spell Medvedev let alone understand the terms under which he might violate this agreement. What Medvedev will actually do is pull out of the treaty if we build a nuclear defense that can neutralize the Russian threat. If you look at it neutrally, this is actually a good thing. Medvedev is simply saying that the balance of power must be maintained.

 
 

Actor – ‘sassed’ … basically, the update is that Newsweek apparently hires its headline writers from a pool of aging Dixiecrats.

 
 

Russia has in fact honored their commitments under START 1 (Signed by Raegan/Gorbachev)

What’s really weird, I got an argument from a wingnut that, since the treaty was signed by the Soviet Union, the treaty was null and void as of 1989!

Except, of course, for the fact the treaty’s implementation was not effective until 1991, when all four states covered under the agreement (Russia, Belarus, Kazahkstan, and Ukraine) agreed to an annex agreement to abide by the terms, which was also ratified by the US!

 
 

basically, the update is that Newsweek apparently hires its headline writers from a pool of aging Dixiecrats

So just reinforcing the original post by pointing out our President is a uppity little feller….got it.

 
 

Palin’s Railin’

Palin shot back in her comments Thursday, mocking the president for “the vast nuclear experience that he acquired as a community organizer.”

LuLz! I love it when she pulls out* the “community organizer” bit. She does realize he’s been president while she’s been doing her traveling band routine, right?

*VPR

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Then he insulted Sarah Palin’s mother in black vernacular!

 
 

So just reinforcing the original post by pointing out our President is a uppity little feller….got it.

Well, yes. Who’s Barack Obama, anyway, to sass the former half-term Quitter about nuclear policies?

 
 

“Obama Sasses Palin on Nuclear Policy “

Shee-it. Time was, any colored man sassed a white woman, they’d be a hangin’ that night.

 
 

There was no U.S.S.R when Palin was Gov!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG!!!!! can republobots get ANY dumber????

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

There was no U.S.S.R when Palin was Gov!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, but McCain looked into Putin’s eyes and saw KGB. Isn’t that the same thing?

 
 

basically, the update is that Newsweek apparently hires its headline writers from a pool of aging Dixiecrats.

Same as it ever was…

 
 

Who’s Barack Obama, anyway, to sass the former half-term Quitter five college attending beauty queen failed vice presidential candidate who fires employees who divorce friends of hers about nuclear policies?

Fixed for more detail.

 
 

No, seriously, why the fuck is Sarah Palin popular? At least GWB was the governor of a large state that had, y’know, immigrants and ghettos and natural disasters and such. He may have been dumb as a post, and he may not have cared about those issues at all, but at least he had experience governing with relation to such things.

Think about it. On what issue could Obama not not delivered that retort? Oil, I suppose. What else? What has the half-term governor ever done?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

On what issue could Obama not not delivered that retort?

Tater tot casserole?

 
 

What has the half-term governor ever done?

It’s not who you know, it’s who you blow.

 
 

You can be an actual rich, elitist, snobby fuck, driving your Benz to the exclusive golf course and living in your gawdy Insta-Mansion, eating at 4 star restaurants, but if you play the Eastern librul hatin’ act, then suddenly you’re just part of the common man front what’s got to stand up to all these high falutin’ types (with their $20K / yr salaries and living in shared housing and eating ramen noodles) who look down on you.

Oh, indeed.

I can’t speak for every city in America but here in Washington, DC, the “elites” don’t spend their time sitting around in Starbucks sipping lattes and discussing global warming. If they need entertainment, they’ll drive to their exclusive clubs in Virginia and play golf, and if they talk politics at all, they’re a lot more likely to be whining about unions and paying their taxes than about rednecks and hillbillies.

 
Marion in Savannah
 

“Think about it. On what issue could Obama not not delivered that retort?”

Moose hunting? Wolf shooting? Snowmobile racing?

 
 

I wonder if Sarah will actually quit the speech-circuit to become a 2012 nominee… Who am I kidding?

 
Marion in Savannah
 

Ooops, left out turkey slaughtering…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I also don’t understand how conservatives can lap her shit up when it’s obvious that she spends absolutely no time prepping for her speeches. If I were going to go see a major party player and former Vice-Presidential nominee speak, I would be fucking *insulted* to see her reading her speech off the palm of her hand.

Shit, I gave 8 minutes speeches in high school with 30 minutes prep and no notes that were better than anything she’s ever done.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

“Vice-Presidential” should probably not be capitalized. Wev.

 
 

“Vice-Presidential” should probably not be capitalized. Wev.

There’s no accuracy in reporting so why should there be accuracy in commenting?

 
 

Her political outfit, SarahPAC, did hand out little packets of Alaska-made caribou and reindeer jerky to every delegate (“An Alaskan Snack from SarahPAC!” the label read, along with invitations to follow her on Twitter and Facebook). And there were a few Palin buttons around the room.

–Mike Madden

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

“An Alaskan Snack from SarahPAC!”

This makes me want to kill myself.

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

Rather, she’s a pretty face who was pageant-trained early on in life and as such, she has poise, she can speak in public, she knows how to catch someone’s attention when there are other attention-getting people around, and as for the rest, she relies on others to do her work for her.

That’s my take as well, particularly the last part. When I encounter Palinesque people out in the real world, I tend to find that they’re the sort of people who talk big, hold apparently prominent positions, and rely on some quiet but competent soul to do the work while they take all the credit. It’s a bit tricky to expose such people, because most people are predisposed to believe that the pretty smiling person did all the work. Sometimes, though, you can expose them by separating them from their helpers or shaming them into believing that they themselves can do the work. I tend to think that’s what happened with Palin’s resignation speech–she thought she could do it all by herself, and it was a total disaster.

 
 

http://teapartyjesus.tumblr.com

A site that, pictorially, joins the words of famous teabaggers with the mouth of Jesus.

One of the best ideas since that stupid tea party movement started.

Pass it on.

 
 

I also don’t understand how conservatives can lap her shit up when it’s obvious that she spends absolutely no time prepping for her speeches. If I were going to go see a major party player and former Vice-Presidential nominee speak, I would be fucking *insulted* to see her reading her speech off the palm of her hand.

Let’s be fair, politicians on both sides of the aisle have used teleprompters and similar things for years – that’s how the game is played.

What I would be fucking insulted by (and was) would be her belief that all she has to do is fit in words like “small town,” “real America” and whatnot into a sentence no matter how incoherently – or worse yet, simply wink at and flirt with her audience, something no liberal woman could do without being called a whore and run out of town – to get everyone’s votes, no matter how completely unintelligent and unqualified for the job she may be.

But yes, the people she’s trying to reach really are that fucking stupid. So in a sense, I can’t blame her.

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

Shit, I gave 8 minutes speeches in high school with 30 minutes prep and no notes that were better than anything she’s ever done.

I don’t know why this is, but American politicians (and Americans in general) tend to be lousy public speakers. Reagan could deliver a speech and so can Obama, but Bush (junior or senior)? Gore? Kerry? Palin? Most of our senators? Thomas “Mumbles” Menino?

Somehow the UK does much better with this, and it isn’t just the accent.

 
 

PENIS

Your mom promised me she’d store that plaster cast of my tallywhacker…

 
 

Somehow the UK does much better with this, and it isn’t just the accent.

Clinton was pretty good, too. And Obama of course. And I’m sure I could come up with a few Republicans (Buchanan, if you strip away the emotional hatred for the content can give a doozy of a speech).

I think the difference between American and English politicians is English politicians consider a good speech something to aspire to, whereas for an American, its a sign of elitism.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Let’s be fair, politicians on both sides of the aisle have used teleprompters and similar things for years – that’s how the game is played.

Oh, I don’t care about that. I just mean that she literally DOES NOT prepare her speeches. I don’t give a shit about notes or teleprompters (used correctly), but you should at least have *something* written and have practiced it at least once or twice.

 
 

I don’t give a shit about notes or teleprompters (used correctly), but you should at least have *something* written and have practiced it at least once or twice

Frankly, I’d give good money for a politician who DOESN’T need to write his thoughts out but can still give a coherent argument in a speech.

It means he’s actually thought about a problem and come to some conclusions, she has an idea how to fix it, that sort of thing.

 
 

Her political outfit, SarahPAC, did hand out little packets of

ah calls ’em ‘caribou condoms’

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Frankly, I’d give good money for a politician who DOESN’T need to write his thoughts out but can still give a coherent argument in a speech.

I agree. For me, “good speaking” usually just means that you’re making good arguments in a compelling way, and that requires that you’ve thought about the topic and have read in-depth about it.

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

Then he insulted Sarah Palin’s mother in black vernacular!

I would die happy on the spot if I saw Obama say at a press conference that Sarah’s mama had a glass eye with a fish in it.

 
 

palin is a dangerous weapon, since not only will you become stupider every second that you listen to her, but also the supersonic whine of her tone of voice will sterilize your gonads

 
 

In other news, Hawaii is the last line of defense against an attack by Botswanans emerging from the hole they may some day drill directly through center of the Earth:

http://www.antipodemap.com/

 
 

Hawaii is the last line of defense against an attack by Botswanans emerging from the hole they may some day drill directly through center of the Earth

Likewise, Bermuda, from those horrible Perthans.

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

I think the difference between American and English politicians is English politicians consider a good speech something to aspire to, whereas for an American, its a sign of elitism.

Probably. I remember some right-wingers saying that about Bush–it was wrapped up with the whole “guy you’d want to have a beer with” meme. I generally like the (seemingly innate) American distrust of all things elitist, but for pity’s sake, one can deliver a competent speech without sounding slick or snobbish.

 
 

I guess you’ve noticed by now that the poor bastige has deleted all the comments — 112 at last count (about 95% openly mocking the comments).
.

 
 

Yes, I see the comments have been suppressed. The ultimate winning argument.

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

I generally like the (seemingly innate) American distrust of all things elitist, but for pity’s sake, one can deliver a competent speech without sounding slick or snobbish.

I agree, and think it’s especially tragic that the righties have been trained to believe that “elitist” means “sounds smart” instead of “is a rich bastard cynically enlisting you to grind yourself under his heel.”

 
 

one can deliver a competent speech without sounding slick or snobbish

Preachers do it twice on Sundays.

No, man, think about it: Clinton had the patois and the rhythms. Obama, same thing. Martin Luther King, Jr. When Jesse Jackson was on, the man was th ebest speaker I’ve ever heard. Reagan had it too, altho he toned it down.

The only speech I’ve ever heard in American politics in the last fifty years (since JFK and maybe his brother) that was close to being poetic and elitist was Cuomo in 1984.

 
 

Once and for all, city folk, college students and high-falutin’ society people don’t “look down” on you. City folk, college students and high-falutin’ society people don’t fucking care about you one way or the other…

Oh, they know that. That’s really the main source of their incoherent rage, for the most part- not the actual issues or politics they throw themselves into with such abandon. It’s coming to grips with the fact that despite all of the world shattering things they imagine they’ve accomplished, (even if the main extent of their contribution consisted of nothing more than muttering vague jingoisms to themselves and sports fan like boosterism) in the past, the world does *not* view them as the masters of the universe they imagine themselves to be. That instead of heralding them as gods and heroes, history is slowly passing them by as irrelevant. And that can not stand.

So they push for killing people half a world away, driving wedges between our allies, and letting the country degenerate into a hot mess of sound and fury. Gleefully.

Because, whatever you might say about being hated, mocked and feared- it’s still better than being ignored.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Nobody’s made a “mah greeyill” joke yet? I’m disappointed.

 
 

Nobody’s made a “mah greeyill” joke yet? I’m disappointed.

Good lord, no one wants to make light of such a grievous tragedy as a man’s BBQ grill blowing over.

 
 

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…bitter and sour.

I like mine like I like my poison ivy–nowhere fucking near me.

 
 

she has an idea how to fix it,

Remembering stuff is hard. Besides, you have to come up with all kinds of new ways to say cut taxes and kill people and deregulate and Obama BAD. It can be a stressful life, not knowing anything about anything.

 
 

I guess you’ve noticed by now that the poor bastige has deleted all the comments — 112 at last count (about 95% openly mocking the comments).

The whole comments section has been removed on my browser! CornFed Yank has pulled an O’Really!

 
 

The whole comments section has been removed on my browser! CornFed Yank has pulled an O’Really!

Yup!

And not even a “Comments have been closed” notice!

 
 

And not even a “Comments have been closed” notice!

It’s probably because there were just so many false comments on the site that it was better just to remove them all. I wonder what the traffic numbers at confederate yankee would be without S,N!

 
 

Fucking headdesk.

This requires forehead genitalia. I would link to the appropriate youtube but (a) the margin is too small and (b) the Amtrak wireless I’m currently sponging off of (just pulled into Providence!) bans video sites.

 
 

Then he insulted Sarah Palin’s mother in black vernacular!

Obama in a little black vernacular? I guess he has the abs to pull it off.

 
 

Shit, I gave 8 minutes speeches in high school with 30 minutes prep

NFL? Extemp, I take it.

 
 

If we’re driving down memory lane with Nirvana then i call shotgun!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

NFL? Extemp, I take it.

Yup. Also, congress and cross-ex debate. If I had actually put any work into it, I would have been pretty damn good, but I am terribly lazy.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

If we’re driving down memory lane with Nirvana then i call shotgun!

WRONGFUL.

 
 

What you stupids are missing is that Sarah Palin as Governor was boss of the University of Alaska and thus is a fully qualified sexy nurse, hot librarian, and seductive teacher as well as being fully prepared to drop professors out of airplanes and on to our Muslamicist enemies.

 
 

Also Jim Morrison sucked ass.

 
 

When I encounter Palinesque people out in the real world, I tend to find that they’re the sort of people who talk big, hold apparently prominent positions, and rely on some quiet but competent soul to do the work while they take all the credit. It’s a bit tricky to expose such people, because most people are predisposed to believe that the pretty smiling person did all the work.

You know, I know people like this. I worked for someone like this. And even with the dripping scorn I bear for that person, I have to say that she was Light Years more competent, had greater mastery of her subject matter, and was better able to communicate her message than Sarah Palin has EVER been.

And that’s saying something, because the Diva I worked for was a lazy-ass, self-involved, spot-light-stealing grifter herslef.

 
 

Also Jim Morrison sucked ass.

Homophobe.

 
 

I happened to catch “The Song Remains the Same” the other night on cable. What a weird experience. I probably saw that show a dozen times in HS and college, always at a midnight showing (remember those?), and always in a, shall we say, “altered state of consciousness”. I had forgotten both how amazing the performances was (filmed in 1972, IIRC), and how lame and cheesy the little video inserts were.

yeah, and don’t watch “Wizards” while sober either….

 
 

Homophobe.

If it’s important to you that the dead donkey ass was male I think YOU have the problem mister.

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

No, man, think about it: Clinton had the patois and the rhythms. Obama, same thing. Martin Luther King, Jr. When Jesse Jackson was on, the man was th ebest speaker I’ve ever heard. Reagan had it too, altho he toned it down.

Yeah, I once said that you had to speak Southern to become President, and that the winner of any given election would be the person who spoke Southern best. It works going back to, say, Kennedy. Part of “speaking Southern” is the cadence of the preacher, but part of it is the diction, a certain way of using metaphors, a certain level of formality.

I remember Cuomo’s speech. I was fairly young then and didn’t really understand it all, but I do remember being impressed that he managed to say “shining city” repeatedly without ever slipping up and delivering the “signing shitty” spoonerism.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

hot librarian

As president-elect of the Hot Librarians Guild, I’d like to inform you that Sarah Palin is *not* invited into our club.

As treasurer of the Sexy Secretaries Society, I’m pretty sure she’s not invited into that group, either, but I’ll have to double-check with our president, Joan Holloway.

 
 

Joan Holloway

I’m not ashamed to admit I Googled her.

Ad Men?

 
 

Jim Morrison once said “Death, and my cock, are the world” and called it a poem. I believe this fact may be of use to both sides in the current discussion.

 
 

The whole comments section has been removed on my browser! CornFed Yank has pulled an O’Really!

Only for the linked post, as far as I can tell. Now I’m not saying you guys should go and spam every one of his other posts, past and future, with flack about Sarah’s “nuclear wisdom” until he’s forced to take everything down. I’m just saying you could.

 
 

I’m not ashamed to admit I Googled her

I miss Fingering. That was so much more fun to say.

 
Persistent Vegetable
 

Apparently the heaping scorn and ridicule was too much for the poor ole’ Yankee, as he has now updated the post with a so-I’m-wrong-SO-WHAT mea culpea, and also taken down all the comments. Hahaha!

Fun times.

 
 

As president-elect of the Hot Librarians Guild, I’d like to inform you that Sarah Palin is *not* invited into our club.

You edged out Rupert Giles?

 
 

Actually, I think Palin is popular among the knuckle-draggers not because they want her to be President or hold office, but because she is doing exactly what they would like to do if anyone paid personal attention to them. And that is ranting and raving against – well, it could be “Whatever” but at this moment it’s Obama and the Government.

She is the glamorous version of they themselves sitting at the bar with a shot and a beer, grousing ignorantly about the government, or holding forth in a barbershop or beauty parlor. The only difference is that, unlike them, people are paying attention to her, instead of rolling their eyes.

She is what they in their meager ambitions aspire to be – someone who gets paid attention to when she cracks wise about the government and elected officials. She’s reaping the reward of attention and admiration for being a tiresome crank that has somehow eluded them, and they love her for it.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’m not ashamed to admit I Googled her.

You shouldn’t be. And it’s Mad Men. 🙂

You edged out Rupert Giles?

Dude, he was president for 15 years running. It’s time to step down!

 
 

She is the glamorous version of they themselves sitting at the bar with a shot and a beer,

And now I’m going to spend the next 150 minutes on this train imagining fat male teabaggers imagining themselves to be Palin.

 
 

T&U, I competed in the N Catholic FL, as there was no NFL to speak of in rural Pennsylvania back then. Extemp. This was back in the 19*cough**hrmph*’s.

I don’t mind self-stroking a bit so, let me say that I did pretty well. For values of pretty well being two regional titles and a top 3 finish at nationals.

 
 

yeah, and don’t watch “Wizards” while sober either….

And don’t even get me started on what a disappointment it is to see “Rocky Horror Picture Show” on DVD at home, straight and sober. Embarrassingly sad. But at the time…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Librarian alert.

Is that Hugh Jackman with a terrible tattoo on the cover?

For values of pretty well being two regional titles and a top 3 finish at nationals.

Awesome! I barely missed qualifying ton nationals THREE TIMES–twice for extemp and once for Senate. I think I medaled at state a couple of times, but I can’t quite remember. But yeah, if I had practiced a little more and been a little less stubborn, I think I would have done better.

 
 

For values of pretty well being two regional titles and a top 3 finish at nationals.

Remind me to keep snarking 3rd parties and never challenge you.

 
 

Jebus. Professionals to the left, professionals to the right. When I was a yungin’ debate was what you hit deball with. And sometimes deskull.

 
 

Professionals to the left, professionals to the right.

Doesn’t scan.

 
 

Doesn’t scan.

Amtrak sez no youtube. I’ll watch and say something incredibly witty…later.

 
 

Not worth it, just a link to Stuck In the Middle With You.

 
 

yeah, and don’t watch “Wizards” while sober either….

QFT. I’d even told my husband how great it was, so he was sober AND expectant. SIGH.

And “nuclear wisdom” in quotes leads me to believe that’s an actual quote? Cuz I will eat a hat made entirely of cookies if she even knows what a nucleus is without checking.

 
 

Nucleus = New Cletus who don’t belong to the T party.

 
 

Amtrak sez no youtube.

tsam sez yer freedoms has bin usuped! WP:VEROMES!

 
 

More wisdom from Super Sarah, defending the teabaggin wagon:

She said the media is “so desperate to discredit the people’s movement, the tea party movement” that they make up such claims.

Yyyyeahhhh. The media has been especially hard on teahadists.

 
 

tsam sez yer freedoms has bin usuped!

I’m in the quiet car. Uprisings are discouraged.

 
 

Obama Sasses Palin on Nuclear Policy

Sasses? As in “Don’t sass me, boy”? That kind of sass? That’s what I thought.

 
 

Palin said “don’t retreat, reload,” was “not a call for violence,”

What were you advising people to reload then? And how did the rifle target graphic fit in to this toooootally non-violent call to non-violence?

“Let’s drill, baby, drill, not stall, baby, stall,”

Yeah. Except on any legislation, cabinet appointees, court nominees…

 
 

She is the glamorous version of they themselves sitting at the bar with a shot and a beer, grousing ignorantly about the government…

ZOMG, you’re right, Sarah Palin is really Old Blevins!

Also, Glenn Blecch gets raked over the coals at HufPo.

 
 

Also, triple zeros, beat that, bitzes.

But I see how it is, we’ve entered the dead zone where all of you Right Coasters go off to live your lives and deny me my entertainment. Damn you all!!!

 
 

You know, if you check out any Missile Command arcade console in Wassila or Juneau, you will see that the high score initials are always SLP. So yeah, I’d say she knows what she’s talking about.

It’s like making Stephen Colbert Secretary of the Arts because he has an honorary DFA.

 
 

“I do like their MTV Unplugged show, though, especially their version of In the Pines.”

Agreed–one gorgeous song. And the Karl Edward Wagner novelette based on it is creepy as hell, too…

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Meh, I have waaaay hotter red shoes than those El Cheapo Monkey things. And boots that stop traffic. But no-one thinks I should have nuke codes.

litbrit, are you the Pope?

 
 

“An Alaskan Snack from SarahPAC!”

This makes me want to kill myself.

Even better, imagine it in that Edie McClurg voice of hers.

The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads – they all adore her.

 
 

But I see how it is, we’ve entered the dead zone where all of you Right Coasters go off to live your lives and deny me my entertainment. Damn you all!!!

Dozed off there, but we’re only at New Haven. So, you’ve got me for another while.

 
Innocent Bystander
 

It’s a shame we can’t test Bob’s convictions on this issue. Something along the lines-

“OK, Bob…you have a choice between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin as President. One choice will mean immediate incineration of yourself and your loved ones. The other will maintain the status quo.

Dixie Bob…which do you choose?”

It would be interesting to see which head prevails…

 
 

The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads – they all adore algore her.

Don’t know what it means, but fiqqst.

 
 

Haven’t read the whole thread, so sorry if I’m repeating something that has already been said, but the idea that someone who hasn’t gotten the memo that Russia is not the Soviet Union is more of an expert on nuclear issues than President Obama is patently insane and noxious. As a veteran of nuclear forces, I can assure you that the last presidential election campaign was TRAUMATIC. Fuck Sarah Palin and all her flatterers with something spiky, rusty, and dipped in poison (speaking figuratively, of course).

The very idea that nuclear policy could be effectively handled by amateurs is pure apocalyptic poison.

Sorry to get so serious. I’m compelled for the sake of not running, screaming through the streets ripping my hair out.

 
 

Meh, I have waaaay hotter red shoes than those

BREAKING RNCC Fundraising Party Spends $4600 At Pope-Themed Molestation/Transubstantiation Bar

spokesman declares art theme exibition only, no actual M&T took place

 
 

At what point does the wafer become a condom?

 
 

Crackers are not waterproof.

 
 

Crackers are not waterproof.

Exactly. This is the miracle of transrubberization.

 
 

At what point does the wafer become a condom?

At the Pope/Altar Boy Molestation bar? NEVER because birth control is an abomination before GOD.

 
 

Dear Pope:

Just found out my janitor is molesting kids. Should I fire him? McDonald’s has a reputation to uphold!

Sincerely,
Worried Just Enough To Worry

 
 

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW!

Ohio official tells residents to ‘arm themselves’ amid police cuts

When the sheriff’s department in Ashtabula County, Ohio, was cut from 112 to 49 deputies, just one vehicle was left to patrol the 720-square-mile county.

Asked what residents should do for protection, Common Pleas Judge Alfred Mackey replied, ” Arm themselves,” and added, “We’re going to have to look after each other.”

Area gun dealers and instructors told WKYC-TV, Cleveland, that they’ve noticed an uptick in sales and interest in self-defense classes.

One instructor, Tracy Williams, said the cuts mean “you don’t have any other option” other than to listen to Mackey’s advice.

SMALLER GUBMIT, BITCHEZ!!! CUT ALL DA TAXES! STOP DA SPENDIN’! PORKULUS!

 
 

Exactly. This is the miracle of transrubberization.

It beats transiudization.

 
 

You know, if you check out any Missile Command arcade console in Wassila or Juneau, you will see that the high score initials are always SLP. So yeah, I’d say she knows what she’s talking about.

HAHAHA! Holy shit, that’s the funniest thing I’ve ever heard.

I’m honestly laughing my ass off in my office!

Awesome comment doctorb!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Ohio official tells residents to ‘arm themselves’ amid police cuts

Thunder’s gonna have to spring for an AK-47.

 
 

Ohio official tells residents to ‘arm themselves’ amid police cuts

When the sheriff’s department in Ashtabula County, Ohio, was cut from 112 to 49 deputies, just one vehicle was left to patrol the 720-square-mile county.

Asked what residents should do for protection, Common Pleas Judge Alfred Mackey replied, ” Arm themselves,” and added, “We’re going to have to look after each other.”

Area gun dealers and instructors told WKYC-TV, Cleveland, that they’ve noticed an uptick in sales and interest in self-defense classes.

One instructor, Tracy Williams, said the cuts mean “you don’t have any other option” other than to listen to Mackey’s advice.

This tends to work very well for the elderly, disabled, children going to and from school, and women living alone. So we can FINALLY go back to the days when barfights end in a shooting without all those stupid cops like, arresting people and stuff. Awesome.

 
 

Thunder’s gonna have to spring for an AK-47.

OOOH! Get the Hello Kitty model!

 
 

No! No more playing nice. There’s going to be a Battle Royale over this nominee

Umm. Yeah. See, when you want to threaten people with violence, or whatever it is you are trying to do, you might really want to check through your references.

Like claiming you’ll have “Battle Royale” over something. Is having badly behaving kids being forced to kill one another with random weapons while military watches from the side a real picture here?

I guess one could claim that Teatards are like spoiled kids, who if given the chance would kill one another. Sounds believable to me.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Meh, I have waaaay hotter red shoes than those El Cheapo Monkey things. And boots that stop traffic. But no-one thinks I should have nuke codes.

litbrit, are you the Pope?

This made me laff.

 
 

Owens nuked and closed comments

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Like claiming you’ll have “Battle Royale” over something. Is having badly behaving kids being forced to kill one another with random weapons while military watches from the side a real picture here?

No, no, no, no. It’s totally going to be like Thunderdome, or maybe the stadium in Running Man? They’re a lot alike, so I’m not sure.

 
chimpevil late as fucking usual
 

Very briefly, an argument consists of one or more premises and one conclusion.

No it doesn’t.

 
 

Because my comment over at ConWank will soon be deleted I’ll preserve it here for at least my own amusement:

Hey Bobby, real brave of you to delete the comments after you got your ass handed to you on the Obama/Palin nuke article.

Is this an example of Conservatives Standing Proud?

Posted by Whale Chowder at April 9, 2010 06:37 PM

 
Trilateral Chairman
 

When I was a yungin’ debate was what you hit deball with. And sometimes deskull.

I would’ve gone with “debate was what you caught defish with,” but that works too.

 
 

No! No more playing nice.

They were playing nice?

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

They were playing nice?

Yes, by not actually shooting at anybody. It’s another dick-wagging macho bullshit fraidy-cat pantsapoopin’ Redoublechin shithead thing.

 
 

Thanks for the link, actor. I only knew Mario Cuomo from the following quote –

“I protect my right to believe as a Catholic by protecting your right to believe as a Jew, a Protestant, a non-believer, or anything else you choose. We know that the price of seeking to force our beliefs on others is that they might someday force their beliefs on us.”

That keynote speech was fucking eloquent; the man seems to be one of the great unsung voices of the eighties, back when liberal voices were badly needed.

Also, looking through his wikiquote page, it’s refreshing as hell to hear a devout Christian publicly expressing liberal and tolerant beliefs. The seeming minority of American Christians who still believe in basic things like being your brother’s keeper could use more like him today, if you ask me.

 
 

Ms Mooseballs approaches turnip levels of sentience. Beckula is slipping over the insane event horizon to the Limbaugh white dwarf singularity, although he now is going with the “entertainer” schtick.
It’s not looking good for the inhabitants of the rightward wackotorium, but they are sublimely happy as evidenced by the Cornfed Yanker attempted boasting. I think the best solution is to give them Utah. Yes, some people will be cross and have to move but once they are in there you can ringfence it.

 
 

Because my comment over at ConWank will soon be deleted…

…aaaaand, it’s gone.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I think the best solution is to give them Utah

Nah, I think the Moon would be more to their liking- no tree-hugging greenies to get them down.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Because my comment over at ConWank will soon be deleted…

…aaaaand, it’s gone.

Aw, it’s cute how he shakes his little fists and banishes you from his “empire”.

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

I think the best solution is to give them Utah

I wish people would stop saying this. Srsly.

We’re down to 48% Mormon these days, and the Pubbies had to gerrymander the living shit out of the state to hang on to what they’ve got. Give us a decade or so and it’ll be a pretty different place – it already has changed a lot in the last 20 years.

 
 

I at least crack me up:

Didn’t take you long to nuke my last comment did it, Bobbo? Reminds me of a song:

Brave brave Sir Robin, Brave Sir Robin
When danger reared it’s ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.

posted by Whale Chowder at April 9, 2010 07:32 PM

 
 

I think the best solution is to give them Utah

Nah, the skiing’s too good there. Give ’em Kansas, that isn’t good for anything.

(I keed!)

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

We’re down to 48% Mormon these days

Typo: 58%.

Still way down from the past levels.

 
 

the Limbaugh white dwarf gas giant singularity

Fixed for obvious astronomical metaphor

 
 

Regarding Bobo Wens’ devastating Update:s
The beauty and poetry that is the fact that his entire point is boned by the first comment at the newsrealblog link – and just after he’s nuclear armageddoned his own comment thread strikes the most balanced note I have heard in quite some time. Or it could be the bourbon talking. Anyhow, here’s the comment so that you don’t have to wade through the newsrealshit:

No, it doesn’t “beg the question”, because he isn’t saying he is a nuclear expert, he’s ADVISED by nuclear experts. He’s also been POTUS for a year and a half, while Sarah Palin’s claim to fame is still a short stint as governor of Alaska.

So, Big O still right in that Palin knows jack and squat about dem noocoolurs bombees! And that Bobo Wens’ “point” about community organizing not being great background for stratergeesic nu-cu-lar warmakering is irrelevant, because the question was about who Obama would listen to. i.e. he’d rather the opinions of knowledgable experts as opposed to Quitty McDONTMAKEFUNOFTRIG.

And here’s the part that probably grinds Bobo Wens’ gears the most.

That whole picking and choosing of advisors on topics such as when to unleash the fire of creation upon the land – why is Obambi doing that? Because that’s hiss job. Because the American people decided that Blacky Hussein Osama X the Islamoatheist is the one person they want to trust with the BIG RED BUTTON.

Here’s another 50 gallon barrel TIDOSY, let me know when you’ve filled it with your tears of impotent rage™.

 
 

Give ‘em Kansas, that isn’t good for anything.

Don’t you cry no more.

 
 

@ g.

RE: Stephen Crane–You’re welcome. I’m so glad you were able to find the whole passage. As I was driving to pick up the boys from school, I thought, “I really
must post that when I get back, because Crane totally nailed it, and that was what, over a hundred years ago.” You saved me the trouble of trying to remember which of his writings and where, etc. Thank you!

 
 

Meh, I have waaaay hotter red shoes than those El Cheapo Monkey things….

litbrit, are you the Pope?

Hahahahaha! That calls to mind one of my favorite bits about the Pope and his, er, divine shoes and outfits. From Betty Bowers:

This man (on the left wearing a fabulous vintage chiffon-lined Dior gold lamé gown over a silk Vera Wang empire waist tulle cocktail dress, accessorized with a 3-foot beaded peaked House of Whoville hat, and the ruby slippers Judy Garland wore in The Wizard of Oz) is worried that The Da Vinci Code might make the Roman Catholic Church look foolish.

 
 

Hey, don’t you guys remember that TV movie where the Russians took over the USA and only Alaska held out?

Me neither. Except I think it had Mariel Hemingway as this hottie who was screwing a Russian officer.

 
 

Hey, don’t you guys remember that TV movie where the Russians took over the USA and only Alaska held out?

Sure, I remember that one. They defeated the Russians with their smooth singing and dancing.

BEN VEREEEENS!!!!

I got nothing. New thred Plz?

 
Ezra in the hizzy
 

Dawn Johnsen (aka “Silver Fox”) will be the next SC Justice/

bookmark it libs.

 
 

The fact is, the crititiscm of Palin by liberals shows how stupid you are, she has way more experience than Hopey Changey, and you are biased. Toward the left wing. When well you admit that stupid liberals

 
 

The fact is, media bias only goes one way, left. Fox News is not biased it is restoring balance and calling it state down the middle, not slanted like the MSM and everyone in the tank for The One. Fox is the only media telling the truth. Go Pink Elephents!

 
 

The fact is, you’re making fun of Sara Palin show how out of touch you are with the Real America Here in the Heartland, where people like John Kasich the next governer of Ohio will elinimate the state income tax. This will increase propserity, unlike Hopey Chanegys tax and spend and get into det solution.

 
 

The fact is, Here in the Heartland we are wise to you left wing media bias and no that less taxes and goverment is freedom.

 
 

The fact is, here in the Heartland, Michele Backman and Paul Ryan are heroes to most and well defeat Obama at the poles.

 
 

The fact is, you liberals well be outnumbered by patriots at the poles with there support for freedom, and we are armed too

 
 

The fact is, I new it, the liberals have given up the fight and I win the debate using facts and logic, not the fear and lies that the left use in order to get the gulibull to sign on to socialsim, your tricks will not work here

 
Ezra in the hizzy
 

Seems like some kind of Janus Node type situation going on there.

 
 

One can only wonder where “here” is. It’s probably dark, stinky, and full of shrieking sounds.

 
 

your tricks will not work here

hah! my jedi warrior powers are even available in the bathroom now that verizon has upgraded its coverage!

 
Release the Kraken!
 

the neocons can’t be serious in thinking that Palin /Bachmann can click with “ordinary” voters in 2012. they must be betting everything on a disaster that can be blamed on Obama. or “Pawlenty: Come Back To Old Rich White Men”
I have a better idea, “Palin/Kraken: Release The Common Sense!”

 
 

One can only wonder where “here” is. It’s probably dark, stinky, and full of shrieking sounds.

One of the bolgias in the 8th Circle, I’m guessing.

 
 

It’s probably dark, stinky, and full of shrieking sounds.

Could also be Hoboken.

 
 

The facet is.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Could also be Hoboken.

The only hellish thing about Hoboken is the cost of living.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

TV, looking at the site you linked, I have to wonder if the “Get a brain morans” guy knows how notorious he’s become.

He’s a mystery, swaddled in an enigma, wrapped in a bandana.

 
Gary Ruppert in the Przizy
 

The fact is did you know you’re hero Peloosie are hurting Bobby Jindals feelings lieberals?

Speaker Pelosi likes to call the Republicans the ‘Party of No.’ Some of us, we don’t like the way that sounds. It hurts our feelings. … Speaker Newt Gingrich said yesterday the Republicans need to be the ‘Party of Yes,’ and he is right.

The fact is we will be the party of yes. Yes you can’t haz a SCOTUSA nominee. Yes you can’t.

The fact is when even liberal Bob Somerby is calling you stupid for your USA Heartland Freedom bias hatred you are on your way down lieberals.

We’ll admit it—we didn’t know! We never could have imagined how nasty and dumb we liberals are—how much we love to play race cards, how much we love to mock teabaggers, a term Digby applied to Pam Stout again, just yesterday. (Darlings! Glenn Beck makes her think! She gets more like Sally Quinn every day.) Just a guess: Digby doesn’t watch Beck a whole lot. Yes, he’s one of the biggest nuts and/or frauds ever seen on TV—but he can’t be dismissed quite that simply. Most of his work comes from fever swamps—but some of his work is quite erudite. People who aren’t quite as bright as the self-admittedly brilliant High Lady Quinn-Digby may not always see the problems with Beck’s claims. They will be much less likely to see the problems when nasty, name-calling “Quinn lite” types keep calling them naughty names.

Our side is nasty, brutish and stupid. (And short—in attention span.) We seem determined to lose at politics, as we so skillfully did four decades ago, the last time we pretended we cared. Some of us were raised by racist fathers, against whom we grandly recoil. Just a question: Is there any chance that the “my tribe and no other” gene of the fathers may be swimming around in the daughters? The fathers ridiculed The Other on the basis of race. The daughters also love to exclude. And we love to play our own race cards! Just go back and review the work of the honorable Mr. Cohen.

The Fact is, At least Bob Somerby is one liberal who does not have elitist hate for real Americans but the sexists democraps like you will have common sense and your race cards rammed down your throats by erudites like Beck and Jonah Goldberg.

 
 

Sorry Xecky. It was thoughtless of me.
On careful consideration, Vatican city would be more to their liking anyway

 
 

The fact is
H- Tits Face!
Fist Cheat!
Faith Sect!

I’m not very good at this.

 
 

Jumping in just on the grunge sidebar, I think it’s pretty unfair to lump Nirvana and Pearl Jam together.

I think Nirvana had a lot of emotional depth and slyness, whereas to me Pearl Jam has U2’s bombast with less wit…

And there’s a lot of other great bands shoved into the Grunge label which are really great bands. Soundgarden and Alice in Chains who became famous, and Skinyard who did not – and Skinyard may be my favorite of them all.

People’s tastes differ, but Nirvana is a band who got huge for a reason. They really had something to offer, and it really is a shame for art as well just for life that Cobain killed himself. That’s my $.02.

Oh, and Sarah Palin’s a fucking idiot.

 
 

If anyone starts trashing Zep, we’re going to have a serious problem around here.

AHEM.
Don’t fuckin’ go there, man. Just DON’T.

You wanna know why I got the blues? Huh? Take a fuckin’ guess why. Show me the goddamn money, Jimmy!

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

Sorry Xecky. It was thoughtless of me.

No worries, sorry I snapped.

I can take a joke, really. The one time I did get really annoyed though was the whole “Boycott Utah on account of Prop 8” insanity.

 
 

The only hellish thing about Hoboken is the cost of living.

I’m gonna disagree here too. It is in NJ, which is bad enough. But the khaki-and-blue-dress-shirt-with-baseball-caps takeover of the entire town is also complete and quite distressing.

 
 

The only hellish thing about Hoboken is the cost of living.

Proximity to Jersey City is not a good thing.

 
 

The fact is, you liberals well be outnumbered by patriots at the poles

This is true. As obsessed as teabaggers are with having things shoved down their throats, we liberals know better than to get between them and the pole.

 
 

She’s the antithesis of a strong woman, period.
Veiled menstruation reference.

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…
Kept in the freezer?

“Obama Sasses Palin on Nuclear Policy “
Also he refused to help her break up that chifferobe.

 
 

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…

Jamaican and black?

 
 

Can we skip to the part where Justice Michael Moore poses for the ‘10-’11 Supreme Court photo

You know perfectly well that Obama will nominate some sensible MOR candidate who happens to represent a large constituency; the ring-wing will run around with their hair on fire anyway, stalling and shrieking; this will increase the unpopularity of Republican politicians; and there will be general complaining that Stevens unfairly colluded with Obama to bring about this result.

Bookmark it.

 
 

We’re down to 48% Mormon these days

Xecky Johnson is right! We can’t just turn over a state to these numbnuts!

Typo: 58%.

Yer on yer own, pal.

The fact is, you’re making fun of Sara Palin show how out of touch you are with the Real America Here in the Heartland

SHOW US YOUR MOOBS!

 
 

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…

Sweetend with booze, and only in small doses?

 
 

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…

Roasted, ground, and with scalding hot water poured over them?

 
 

I like my conservative women the way I like my coffee…

Freeze-dried?

Stored in vacuum-sealed packages?

Full of beans?

Ground into a fine powder?

 
 

DAMN YOU TIGRIS!

 
 

damn, people are still awake here.

 
 

Someone else has paid for them?

 
 

In terms of liking coffee I mean

 
 

Wait, you’re paid to be awake? But only if you like coffee? I’m so confused.

 
 

In terms of liking coffee I mean

Damn. I thought I was up for commenter royalties.

 
 

I stayed up just so I could steal N_B’s joke and do the mocking, butt-shaking dance I’m doing RIGHT NOW.

 
 

Teh fact is, Gary’s right!

Michelle Backhair & Sarah St. Palehorse will get the Nuculear Foosball away from Obambi & pass Gawd’s Jugdement on all you filthy sinfull liberalz FOR EVAR & EVAR AMEN!!!1111!!!111111!!!!

 
 

My milkshake has been drunk. It has been drunk up.

 
 

but it still brings the boys to the yard, I hope.

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

Michelle Backhair & Sarah St. Palehorse will get the Nuculear Foosball away from Obambi & pass Gawd’s Jugdement on all you filthy sinfull liberalz FOR EVAR & EVAR AMEN!!!1111!!!111111!!!!

I really like playing Nuculear Foosball, but I always preferred air hockey, or the nerve-gas variant if you could manage to find that kind of arcade.

 
 

I’m back, after having had two tequila-based drinks, a heartfelt confessional discussion with a female co-worker about our sex lives, and a grilled cheese sandwich.

N_B and Little Boots just made me spit on my keyboard.

 
 

A messenger observed: We grow yummy people in our amorphous towns, with honesty, sincerity, or dignity. I know sure-footedly the delicious people that messenger had in mind when he praised Anton Von Leevenhoek.

My robots are here tonight , and I am so extinguished to be the expert of Chuck or Sally Heath.

In our family, it’s two Kahluas and three girls in between-my nauseating or delicious-tailed clerks, Bristol, Budd and Wunt.

Our pornographer Paco is 19. Our mate Neutron is 19.

My family is extinguished of both of them and of all the fine men and women serving the country in uniform. Neutron is the eldest of our five children.

My nephew Fatso also enlisted and serves on every UFO in the Persian Gulf.

To the families of special-needs children all across this country, I have one more message : For years, you sought to make America more welcoming place for your pornographers and daughters.

And in April, my gardener, Touche, or I welcomed our littlest one into the world , more than one expressively interlocking neurosurgeon Tango named Trig. From the plus, no family ever seems typical.

I pledge to you that if we are elected, you will have each cement mixer or clarinetist in the street party. Dakota is the story all by himself.

We met in cosmic school, and two decades and five children later he’s organizingly my infant. My mom and dad both worked at the elementary school in our intriguing town.

He’s a lifelong commercial fisherman … Your production information architect in the oil fields of Alaska’s North Slope … One extinguished member of the United concrete Workers Union … Or world Sexy snow cheese Wacky.

That’s how it is with us.

 
 

bout time.

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

Only two drinks? Did you forget it’s Friday?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

but it still brings the boys to the yard, I hope.

I am partial to a Shit Shake, myself.

 
 

Only two drinks? Did you forget it’s Friday?

Also, too.

 
 

two drink minimum. more beautiful words were never spoken.

 
 

N_B and Little Boots just made me spit on my keyboard.

I know they make bad jokes but really, hacking a loogie on your own keyboard is probably counterproductive.

 
 

damn, didn’t post.

but it was awesome!

 
 

We’re down to 48% Mormon these days, and the Pubbies had to gerrymander the living shit out of the state to hang on to what they’ve got. Give us a decade or so and it’ll be a pretty different place – it already has changed a lot in the last 20 years.

Yeah, but you have to pay for Stephenie Meyer *somehow*.

 
 

48 percent morman. That’s just … wait, how the hell did this happen? Who the hell is mormon? What the hell is wrong with these people?

 
 

that was mean. actually, that annoys me about me.

 
 

sadly no sleeps, sadly.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Some of us are UP ALL NIGHT!!!!

Working a double so I can go drinking tomorrow night.

 
 

48 percent morman.

For rich yet delicate flavour I prefer full-blooded mermen.

 
 

The merman flavour could be said to be sea men COULD IT NOT?

 
 

and these said moor men or mere men, and their angel of moo or mereoni, may make common cause with the musslemen of hither asia, and threaten our christian realm with underpants, whether special, magic, or exploding?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Fuckin’ mermen, HOW DO THEY WORK?

 
 

And there was much mermerring among the crowds.

 
 

Fuckin’ mermen, HOW DO THEY WORK?

Poorly. Few remember to punch the clock, and many chase strange yellow-fin tail while on the job.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Oh, uh… here’s the link I should have provided, for great justice.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Obviously 48% Morman means 48% More Man. Whether this means they’ve figured out a way to make sex changes in Utah occur gradually, I don’t know.

 
 

a way to make sex changes in Utah occur gradually

Like in The Fly, where Jeff Goldblum starts growing back hair?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I think it’s a typo… Utah is 48% Mermans.

SLC residents are known to spontaneously burst into flames song. This is why Orson Scott Cobag is so sensitive about teh ghey.

 
 

If Palin deserves any thought at all it’s because she represents the organizational wing of virulent McNuggets who count ignorance as a virtue. Sure the world is confusing and complicated but the answer is to have Teh Jeebus in your heart to point you in the right direction. That’s wise leadership. All that book-larnin’ and insistence on factual evidence and junk are just “the ways of Man” that can only ever lead to destruction. The more studious and reality-based you are the more likely you are to be lead astray.

Problem for us is that when people who actually try to know things say “fucking Hell you’re a bunch of ignorant vacuous rubes” the Palinites take it as proof that they’re on the right track.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Uh, kingubu, for your continued sanity, don’t click on the link I posted to SMcG’s place at 12:57.

 
 

The only hellish thing about Hoboken is the cost of living.

I’ve lived in Hoboken. There’s lots of hellishness there, starting with the Village-wannabes.

 
 

starting with the Village-wannabes

Most annoying M. Night Shyamalan movie ever.

 
 

Sorry, B^4, but this shit already gave me my recommended daily allowance of despair.

n an unusual last-minute edit that has drawn flak from the White House and science educators, a federal advisory committee omitted data on Americans’ knowledge of evolution and the big bang from a key report. The data shows that Americans are far less likely than the rest of the world to accept that humans evolved from earlier species and that the universe began with a big bang.

They’re not surprising findings, but the National Science Board, which oversees the National Science Foundation (NSF), says it chose to leave the section out of the 2010 edition of the biennial Science and Engineering Indicators because the survey questions used to measure knowledge of the two topics force respondents to choose between factual knowledge and religious beliefs.

When the goddamned National Science Foundation can be cowed into thinking that maybe their questions about scientific literacy weren’t respectful enough of the delicate fee-fees of people who want to believe in fairy tales, it’s a little hard to get too worked up about what a couple of no-flow-havin’ wankers are up to.

 
 

Sooo. Did anyone screen cap the comments over at Wankee’s place before he nuked them with a Sarah Palin-approved device? Kinda want to see the footbullet results of that post.

 
 

FWIW, it wasn’t a general decision of the National Science Foundation, but the politically appointed members of the group which governs the NSF, the National Science Board:

The NSB is made up of 25 Members appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The NSF Director is an ex officio Member. Members serve six-year terms. With the exception of the NSF Director, one-third of the Board is appointed every two years. NSB Members are drawn from industry and universities, and represent a variety of science and engineering disciplines and geographic areas. The NSB is apolitical. The NSF Act of 1950, as amended, states that nominees to the “Board (1) shall be eminent in the fields of the basic, medical, or social sciences, engineering, agriculture, education, research management or public affairs; (2) shall be selected solely on the basis of established records of distinguished service; and (3) shall be so selected as to provide representation of the views of scientific and engineering leaders in all areas of the Nation.” The NSB elects its own Chairman and Vice Chairman. The Chairman, in turn, is authorized to make appointments to the NSB staff. The NSB Office is headed by the Board Executive Officer.

My guess is that a number of those are by this point Bush Jr. appointees.

 
 

My guess is that a number of those are by this point Bush Jr. appointees.

I looked at a number of the board member bios. All I saw were Bushies, including chair and co-chair.

Lovely.

 
 

I looked at a number of the board member bios. All I saw were Bushies, including chair and co-chair.

Well, maybe we don’t god-damn need yer faggot-ass pointy-head “scientiss” types on the la la la we’re soooooo much smarter than you Heartland people “National Science Board”.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Man proposes and God disposes. A big part of the trouble for Barack Obama and all those crackerjack leftwing strategists and the brigades of Alinsky thugketeers is that they’ve never gotten the hang of the second part of that old axiom. For the left, God disposes of nothing, because God is, well, nothing more than an opiate. For the rest of us who believe in God, we know otherwise. History is strewn with fine examples of man’s grand designs coming athwart something — anything — that makes those designs not worth the paper their drawn on. By chance, does anyone know what happened to the British North American Empire?

So it is today in the United States of America. We have a president and a party (infested with a cabal of heathen leftists) whose grand design is to bloat the state and, hence, their power. But the left’s smart plans have come athwart something, that something being the freedom-loving intransigence of God-fearing conservatives and many other Americans (God-fearing as well). What Barack Obama and the left have gotten is what they never expected: a political war — perhaps one on an epic scale that will bring down the House of FDR.

Providence is no friend of hubris, and there is much foul hubris in the left’s maximum leader, Barack Obama, and perhaps as much in his minions. Whether the Tower of Obama meets the same fate as the Tower of Babel depends on the outcome of the political war underway. Expect the war to be protracted and a close run thing, for, when push comes to shove, Mr. Obama and the left are choosing to govern in semi-caudillo fashion; that is, contrary to the will of the people. Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.

The cocky President Obama, his chief henchman, the bullying locker-room nudist, Rahm Emanuel, and his Rasputin, a Chicago political machine consigliere named Axelrod, all misinterpreted and overestimated the results of the Democrats’ ascendency in 2006 and 2008. They were buoyed by the analyses of shifts in the electorate penned by liberal pundits. America, the left believed, was ripe for a sharp turn left.

But almost from the get-go, Americans wanted no decisive swing leftward. Opposition to Mr. Obama’s big government hash was nearly instantaneous. Conservatives were in the vanguard of fighting the revolutionary — perhaps more accurately, reactionary — march of the left toward heretofore unheard of liberty-depriving dominance.

So a political war came. Early on in the war, Mr. Obama expected something on the order of Sherman’s famous (or infamous, depending on what side of the Mason Dixon Line you live) March to the Sea. Statism would go boldly across the rich, wide land, taking and ravaging health care, business and industry and anything else that got in the way of creating a People’s Republic. Mr. Obama’s band of leftwing bummers vowed to strong-arm the rich to surrender even more of their money to support benevolent government, and they brazenly lied to the middle and working classes that the citizens thereof needn’t worry about the pilfering of their wallets.

Wary middle Americans weren’t buying into the propaganda that Barack’s band had no intention of someday, someway, picking their bones clean too. Americans, long accustomed to the wild and wooly ways of free markets, know something about assurances and offers — they usually come with hitches. Buried deep in Mr. Obama’s fatigues is a list with every taxpayer’s name on it. Those many thousands of IRS agents Mr. Obama plans to add to the government payroll will be there for one reason and reason only: to better plunder the modest earnings of the country’s un-rich.

Yet as the vagaries of war would have it, Mr. Obama finds himself not triumphantly marching to the sea. Instead, he’s at the political equivalent of Cold Harbor — a major Civil War battle — having to slug it out with a determined foe. The President gained ground on health care only after tremendous losses. The façade of the unifier and centrist that Mr. Obama and his flaks threw up in the 2008 election is in tatters. A majority of voters no longer hope for the change that Obama the leftist ideologue has unveiled.

Cold Harbor was striking in that it presaged the trench warfare that would curse Europe in the first world war. And there’s where both opposing forces in the war for America’s future are now: fighting across trenches, locked in something of a stalemate. Liberty’s soldiers have dug in deeply; they have greatly retarded the statists’ advances and are making the statists pay dearly with precious political capital for each bit of sod gotten legislatively. In this war, at this moment, attrition doesn’t favor the statist aggressor; it favors the freedom-loving defenders. The clock is Mr. Obama’s enemy, too. The greater the President’s delay, the greater the chances of sending him packing.

But, ultimately, this war will not be won in the trenches. Victory depends on a breakout. The strategy is for freedom-lovers to hold the line until November. Then sober-minded voters, moving en masse to the polls, will elect a conservative majority via the Republican Party to the U.S. House or Senate or both. Congressional majorities will then commence a new phase of the war, a war of maneuver aimed at outflanking Mr. Obama and the left.

If triumphant, if voters depose Madame Pelosi, the droll Harry Reid and their forces, Republicans, with new conservative backbone and muscle, can begin Operation Starve, Replace and Repeal. Starve Mr. Obama’s wretched government health care scheme of funding. Repeal it when a Republican president assumes office in 2013. And replace the Obama monstrosity with market-oriented, consumer-empowering reforms shortly thereafter. And do the same with any other legislation that the pale reds pushed through in their brief but disruptive tenure.

“If” is a mighty big word in human events. Battlefield commanders know that war plans are good up until the first shot. Then it’s up to the smarts, the wiles, the adaptability and the will of their forces to carry the fight in the face of the unexpected. Political wars and battles, just like the real things, have their ebbs and flows, their good days and bad. Nothing is a given. The expectation is all must be earned. Serendipity and the folly of one’s opponents can’t be counted on.

Liberty-loving Americans need to keep the fight up not just to November, but well past it. Victory comes to those who weather adversities and persevere. American patriots propose not just to secure recently imperiled liberties but to eventually restore the liberties lost to the statists over the last eight decades. Let us pray that God disposes well of the patriots’ intentions.

 
 

In an unusual last-minute edit that has drawn flak from the White House and science educators, a federal advisory committee omitted data on Americans’ knowledge of evolution and the big bang from a key report. The data shows that Americans are far less likely than the rest of the world to accept that humans evolved from earlier species and that the universe began with a big bang.

I remember reading that almost half of the American people do not believe in evolution, with another not inconsiderable percentage believing in something in between (once had a conservative say very honestly “Oh I believe in evolution, just not to the extent that you do” and really wanted to beat my head to death against the wall).

But disbelief in the Big Bang is by far the more insane idea. Not because of the science behind it, but because the Big Bang theory was initially proposed by a Catholic priest – and at the time, devout secularists greeted the idea with suspicion because they were afraid it would “prove” the Biblical account of God creating a universe out of nothing. However, since the Big Bang stood up to criticism and was accepted by the scientific community overall, that means it can’t possibly be right, so what started off as a Christian-based threat to secular science is now seen as yet another component of the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy Against God.

That’s how insane these people are.

 
 

I remember reading that almost half of the American people do not believe in evolution

I’m far more terrified of the 72%* who don’t believe in thermodynamics and the 93%* who don’t believe in exothermic chemical reactions**.

*Yes, I pulled those numbers out of my ass. Got a problem with that?

**Won’t someone think of the cement?

 
 

I don’t get it.

Is Obama supposed to be some kind of heathen secularist or a radical muslim?

If they can’t even keep their talking points straight how the heck am I supposed to?

 
 

Is Obama supposed to be some kind of heathen secularist or a radical muslim?

Yes.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Liberal propagandists are very good at changing the subject, their task made all the more easy thanks to their firm grasp on both the channel and volume controls of the mainstream media remote control device.

Take for very good example, the current election cycle.

Democrats are in trouble. Big trouble. We know that. They know that.

But it is also very handy to provide excuses, excuses that will disguise the real reason for rising voter discontent.

So the story becomes not that the public is outraged with Democrats or liberals or those who rammed the stimulus or the health care/student loan nationalization bill through the Congress. It becomes that the public is dissatisfied with incumbents.

Now, that might explain Jon Corzine’s loss in New Jersey, but it does not explain earth-shaking Democratic setbacks in Virginia and Massachusetts. In fact, incumbent Corzine scored a higher percentage than failed Democratic gubernatorial candidate Creigh Deeds in Virginia.

Yet, the meme continues. It’s not Democrats who are in trouble. It’s incumbents.

As the Gallup poll recently reported: “A record-low percentage of U.S. voters — 28% — say most members of Congress deserve to be re-elected. The previous low was 29% in October 1992. . . . Additionally, 65% of registered voters — the highest in Gallup history, and by far the highest in any recent midterm year — now say most members of Congress do not deserve re-election.”

Yup, it’s incumbents. That’s the problem. No, it’s not — and even folks who say that they believe that really don’t.

Case in point.

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean and former Bush Administration guru Karl Rove have recently taken an act out on the road, debating and joshing each other at stops along the college campus route, as did G. Gordon Liddy and Timothy Leary years ago.

The results have been illuminating but never more so than in Albany, New York on April 8, when Dean, while conceding that Democrats would indeed lose seats in the fall, went on to alibi that the problem was incumbency rather than ideology.

Some further background. For his part, Rove has recently noted that the sample congressional generic polling now favors the GOP at a much higher rate than in did in the watershed year of 1994. The GOP is now ahead by three percent. In April 1994 it still lagged by behind Democrats.

And the congressional anti-incumbency of April 2010 actually breaks down rather interestingly. Democrats, oddly enough, are not all that anti-incumbent. In fact, they’re not anti-incumbent at all. They favor incumbents by a 46 percent-41 percent margin. And, again, not surprisingly, Republicans now really loathe incumbents. They want them out by an 83 percent-13 percent avalanche. But the real number of interest — as always — involves independents. They align themselves with Republican thinking, hankering to throw the rascals out by a huge 72 percent-25 percent factor. Look to them to be nearly as selective as Republicans in regard to which incumbents they choose to toss into the ash heap of history.

Now, back to Mr. Rove and Governor Dean.

Rove is no Pollyanna on matters electoral. He studiously refuses to yet predict a GOP majority in either house in 2011. The highest he is willing to go in Senate, at this point in time, is 49 Republican seats, with, perhaps a majority. if the party wins two out of four seats in Washington (Murray), California (Boxer), Wisconsin (Feingold), and New York (Gillibrand). He predicts, again at this point in time, only a thirty-five pick-up in the House, a figure insufficient to separate septuagenarian Nancy Pelosi from her speaker’s gavel.

Yet, onstage at Albany, listening to Howard Dean’s incumbency shtick, Rove finally had enough.

Before an audience of 2,500, he called Dean out on his assertion regarding congressional incumbency, daring him to put his money where his mouth is — challenging him to a $1,000 bet (the proceeds to go to a University at Albany scholarship fund) that there would be three times as many Democratic incumbents defeated as current GOP officeholders.

Dean looked ill. His smile broadened artificially. His brow furrowed genuinely.

He wouldn’t bite.

A frustrated, but still confident, Rove raised the ante.

Make it four — four times as many, he challenged.

Still no response, beyond Dean’s pasted-on grin and a waggle of his eyebrows meant to convey something or other.

“I know you’re a cheapskate Howard,” Rove goaded the former Vermont governor.

“Democrats are always much more careful about their money,” Dean responded, merely providing Rove an opportunity to skewer him and his co-religionists.

“It’s other people’s money they’re free with,” said Rove.

Dean kept his silence because there is other people’s money and there is your money — and other people’s incumbent’s and your incumbents.

 
 

“God-fearing conservatives and many other Americans (God-fearing as well)”

Why would anyone want to believe in a god they feared?

 
Happy Tax Freedom Day!
 

Happy Tax Freedom Day!

Good morning America! Wherever you are it is a beautiful day because for the first time in 2010 you are truly free! According to the Tax Foundation from January 1, 2010 until April 9, 2010 you were working for the government–federal, state, county, school district, city, park district, arts district…

Yep, all the money you earned during this time–over a quarter of your income–was turned over to the government in the form of taxes.”Americans will pay more taxes in 2010 than they will spend on food, clothing and shelter combined,” according to the Tax Foundation.

Compared to last year

This year’s Tax Freedom Day is one day later than in 2009, but more than two weeks earlier than in 2007. The shift toward a lower tax burden since 2007 has been driven by three factors: (1) The recession has reduced tax collections even faster than it has reduced income; (2) President Obama and the Congress have enacted large but temporary income tax cuts for 2009 and 2010, just as President Bush did in 2008; and (3) Two significant taxes were repealed for 2010 as part of previous legislation, the estate tax and the so-called PEP and Pease provisions of the income tax.

What are the major taxes?

Five major categories of taxes dominate the tax burden. Individual income taxes-including federal, state and local-require 32 days’ work. Payroll taxes take another 25 days’ work. Sales and excise taxes, mostly state and local, take 15 days to pay off. Corporate income taxes take 8 days, and property taxes take 12. Americans will log 6 more days to pay other miscellaneous taxes, most notably including motor vehicle license taxes and severance taxes, and about half a day for estate taxes.

But this is assuming everyone pays his/her fair share of taxes. But they don’t–especially income taxes. As Mark Steyn explains:

And yet for an increasing number of Americans tax season is like baseball season: It’s a spectator sport. According to the Tax Policy Center, 47% of U.S. households will pay no federal income tax for the year 2009. Obviously, many of them pay other kinds of taxes – state tax, property tax, cigarette tax.

But at a time of massive increases in federal spending half the country is effectively making no contribution to it, whether it’s national defense or vital stimulus funding to pump monkeys in North Carolina full of cocaine (true, seriously, don’t ask me why).

Half a decade back, it was just under 40% who paid no federal income tax; now it’s just under 50%.

And by the way, if you are one of the 53% who pays income taxes, your 2009 income taxes are due in a few days.

 
 

Liberal propagandists are very good at changing the subject, their task made all the more easy thanks to their firm grasp on both the channel and volume controls of the mainstream media remote control device.

Example; you being asked how the hell Obama could be a secular Marxist if he was also a Muslim radical, responding with the above and spewing all those lines of word-vomit without answering the question.

To answer Major Kong, though, when you live with the binary worldview so beloved of conservatives, it’s all the same. Either you’re a Christian fundamentalist or you’re not, and if you’re not, then you’re working for the devil which means you’re all the same in the end. I’ve read conservatives accusing atheism of being a branch of Islam before.

 
 

I love the made-up confrontation scene between the manly Karl Rove and the eyebrow-waggling Howard Dean. That’s from a B movie, right?

 
 

More from Caribou Barbie;

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100409/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1549

“No administration in America’s history would, I think, ever have considered such a step that we just found out President Obama is supporting today,” she proclaimed. “It’s kind of like getting out there on a playground, a bunch of kids, getting ready to fight, and one of the kids saying, ‘Go ahead, punch me in the face, and I’m not going to retaliate. Go ahead and do what you want to with me.'”

First of all, I seriously doubt that Sarah Palin has ever been in a fight in her life; she strikes me more as the kind of kid who would run behind the teacher’s skirts if anything even remotely threatening happened around her, or more likely the person who’d cry her eyes out to the teacher while falsely accusing other kids of hitting or threatening or bullying her. That’s certainly how she acts in politics.

Second, passing over her complete and total ignorance of nuclear issues, her likening the world to “a playground with a bunch of kids getting ready to fight” is pretty indicative of the Republican mindset – the only thing of interest they see out in the world are the opportunities for violence. Of course most countries aren’t even remotely interested in fighting the U.S, and those that might be (Iran, North Korea) weren’t covered by the declaration.

 
 

First of all, I seriously doubt that Sarah Palin has ever been in a fight in her life; she strikes me more as the kind of kid who would run behind the teacher’s skirts if anything even remotely threatening happened around her, or more likely the person who’d cry her eyes out to the teacher while falsely accusing other kids of hitting or threatening or bullying her. That’s certainly how she acts in politics.

No, there are stories of her playing basketball – she played it kind of like George Bush played rugby – fouling other players when the ref couldn’t see.

 
 

No, there are stories of her playing basketball

I heard that that was where she got the nickname Barracuda:

They are voracious, opportunistic predators…

 
 

Happy Tax Freedom Day!

This year’s Tax Freedom Day is one day later than in 2009, but more than two weeks earlier than in 2007.

So the Obamiscegniator cut your taxes lower than your Messiah Bush did? Good thing Republicans are partisan dolts, or you might actually have to change your worldview in some way.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’m offended by the idea of giving the wingnuts Kansas. We’ve settled this already! We’re giving them Oklahoma.

Sorry, B^4, but this shit already gave me my recommended daily allowance of despair.

*cry* Sometimes I want to run screaming from this country as fast as I can.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’ve read conservatives accusing atheism of being a branch of Islam before.

LOLWUT? My branes just started leaking out my ears a little…

 
 

I’m offended by the idea of giving the wingnuts Kansas. We’ve settled this already! We’re giving them Oklahoma.

Can we give them a three-square-mile area at the bottom of the Indian Ocean instead?

 
 

Man proposes and God disposes.

God called. Leave yourself by the curb for pickup.

 
 

Democrats are in trouble. Big trouble. We know that. They know that.

Pity the opposition party keeps shooting themselves in the foot, innit?

 
 

Can we give them a three-square-mile area at the bottom of the Indian Ocean instead?

And if we’re too concerned about pollution, perhaps somewhere between the orbits of Neptune and Uranus?

 
 

This year’s Tax Freedom Day is one day later than in 2009, but more than two weeks earlier than in 2007.

So Obama has LOWERED our tax burden?

Shhhhh….next thing you’ll tell us is the stock market has rebounded to 10,000 or so.

Liberals are GOOD for business!

 
 

Example; you being asked how the hell Obama could be a secular Marxist if he was also a Muslim radical, responding with the above and spewing all those lines of word-vomit without answering the question.

I nailed two neocon friends of mine…yes, they exist…by pointing out (with regards to the nuke treaty) that Obama could not be both a Hitler-appeasing lilly-livered coward AND a Hitler-like fascist determined to control our lives.

I then asked them to confer with Glenn Beck and get back to me with a final decision.

 
 

Can we give them a three-square-mile area at the bottom of the Indian Ocean instead?

New Moore Island? The one that global warming disappeared?

 
 

I nailed two neocon friends of mine…yes, they exist…by pointing out (with regards to the nuke treaty) that Obama could not be both a Hitler-appeasing lilly-livered coward AND a Hitler-like fascist determined to control our lives.

Did you also ask them if Reagan was a coward nambyboy for pushing the SALT talks and saying we should get rid of all nukes? The brain explosions would’ve been fun and spectacular…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

perhaps somewhere between the orbits of Neptune and Uranus?

Veiled, uh, butt reference? I dunno…

Did you also ask them if Reagan was a coward nambyboy for pushing the SALT talks and saying we should get rid of all nukes?

I’ve seen it floating around in rightwingospace that Reagan was actually not conservative enough…*sigh*

 
 

I’ve seen it floating around in rightwingospace that Reagan was actually not conservative enough…*sigh*

I’m sure they’ll find a new, more moderate conservative hero to rally around.

 
 

Man proposes and God disposes.

The problem with conservatives isn’t that they believe in God, it’s that they think they’re entitled to act as God’s mouthpieces. Worse, however much they may pretend otherwise, the religious right is first and foremost about pushing their political values into Christianity, not Christianity into their politics. These people are right wingers first, Americans second, Christian a very distant third. And I don’t know what they teach at Sunday school in Bumblefuck Alabama, but the degree to which they tie their God to their politics and their nation is pretty close to idolatry in my book.

Did you also ask them if Reagan was a coward nambyboy for pushing the SALT talks and saying we should get rid of all nukes?

Forget SALT; Reagan also reacted to his hostage crises by attempting to bribe the hostage takers with arms sales, and then just kinda hoped that the arms would never be turned against us or, if they were, that people wouldn’t notice. Carter at least refused to give in to Khomeini’s demands… Reagan appeased terrorists like nobody before or since.

 
 

Liberal propagandists are very good at changing the subject, their task made all the more easy thanks to their firm grasp on both the channel and volume controls of the mainstream media remote control device.

[points remote at Fox News and clicks “off”]

Damn, that didn’t work.

[points remote at Fox News and clicks “mute”]

Huh. That didn’t work either. Oh shit, Irky’s on CNN.

[frantically clicks “fire”]

Nope. Maybe the batteries are dead or something.

 
 

You know who else wasn’t right wing enough?

The American chargé d’affaires in Berlin wrote Washington in 1933 that the hope for Germany lay in “the more moderate section of the [Nazi] party, headed by Hitler himself…which appeal[s] to all civilized and reasonable people,” and seems to have “the upper hand” over the violent fringe.

In 1937, the State Department saw Fascism as compatible with U.S. economic interests.

A report of the European Division explained its rise as the natural reaction of “the rich and middle classes, in self-defense” when the “dissatisfied masses, with the example of the Russian revolution before them, swing to the Left.” Fascism therefore “must succeed or the masses, this time reinforced by the disillusioned middle classes, will again turn to the left.” Not until European Fascism attacked U.S. interests directly did it become an avowed enemy.

 
 

Good post, El Cid. Wall Street loved the Nazis, as did most conservatives at the time (which is why it’s taken them sixty years to start calling us fascists). For obvious reasons; they’d watched the left rising for the last fifty years with no way to stop it, and fascism seemed to finally be the answer, the best way to protect capitalism and religion from the left.

Oh yes, and racism was also a common link between the fascists and traditional conservatives; the Soviet Union was portrayed as a half-Asiatic power through which “the hordes of Asia,” the “pressing sea of Yellow, Black and Brown,” would try to conquer Europe. To the elites of the time, communism was a class threat, but when speaking to the common man, they portrayed it in shamelessly racial terms.

Reading right wing rhetoric of today, particularly the “Eurabia” red herring and the terror of Kenyan socialism in the U.S, also looking at the excellent ties between psychos like PJTV and fascists like Le Pen or the BNP, is a little disquieting given the historical precedents.

 
 

Did anyone screen cap the comments over at Wankee’s place before he nuked them with a Sarah Palin-approved device?

Google Cache can give you the cached (as opposed to the current) version of a webpage by using the “cache:url” command* … in other words, with all due apologia, nope, I just couldn’t be arsed to save the spectrum of public response to Bob’s latest faceplant.

Bob Owens as Santa Lulz – although very few things are much MUCH funnier than a bunk post like that one (what with its aesthetic overtones of either recent massive cranial trauma or a female parent who slammed back Shellac-&-Sterno cocktails throughout at least two trimesters), I’m pretty sure that its perpetrator then being so freaked out at others’ critique of their screwery-of-poochdom antics as to decide to run DELETEFUCKINGEVERYTHING.EXE on either the comments or the post as a whole is definitely one of them.

Bob is the Shirley Muldowney of his own fail-dragstrip now, one of an elite few fuckwits who dare to go beyond mere words to advertise their deficit of overt sentience WITH THE POWER OF DIRECT ACTION!

BOTWLMAFHO²!

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* DISCLAIMER: I am actually damn near the opposite of a cyber-nerd, thus the hot-shit-sounding option above may actually cack completely, being something I dug out of Google’s tripes in 20 seconds or so.

² (bouncing off the walls laughing my fecking head off)

 
 

Oh, speaking of the heavy hand of censorship, Wankee is still deleting critical comments on his blarg. I think he needs one of these.

 
 

Yegods, can’t believe I forgot this. I never miss an opportunity to post a good quote, especially if it’s Paul Krugman (passing comment on William F. Buckley);

General Franco is an authentic national hero. It is generally conceded that he above others had the combination of talents, the perseverance, and the sense of righteousness of his cause, that was required to wrest Spain from the hands of the visionaries, ideologues, Marxists and nihilists that were imposing on her, in the thirties, a regime so grotesque as to do violence to the Spanish soul, to deny, even, Spain’s historical identity

The “regime so grotesque” overthrown by Generalissimo Francisco Franco – with crucial aid from Mussolini and Hitler – was in fact Spain’s democratically elected government. The methods Franco used to protect Spain’s “soul” included mass murder and the consignment of political opponents and anyone suspected of being a political opponent to concentration camps. Nor was this all in the past when Buckley praised the dictator; As the historian Paul Preston notes, Franco’s opponents were “still subject to police terror and execution” as late as the 1970s.
-Paul Krugman, “The Conscience of a Liberal,” page 103

The same praise Buckley lavished on Franco can be found in PJTV and other John Bircher publications in reference to Pahlavi in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, and naturally the contras in Nicaragua, to name only them.

 
 

So, did you hear the one about the Polish travel agent?

…too soon?

 
 

“It’s kind of like getting out there on a playground, a bunch of kids, getting ready to fight, and one of the kids saying, ‘Go ahead, punch me in the face, and I’m not going to retaliate. Go ahead and do what you want to with me.’”

Actually it’s more like getting out there on a playground, a bunch of kids, getting ready to fight, and one of the kids saying, ‘I’ll take half the bullets out of my Uzi if you’ll take half the bullets out of yours.’

 
Lurking Canadian
 

Did you also ask them if Reagan was a coward nambyboy for pushing the SALT talks and saying we should get rid of all nukes?

They thought so at the time. In the late ’80s, the official wingnut line was that Gorbachev was a con man, glasnost was a ploy to lull us into a false sense of security and the Soviet bloc wasn’t really collapsing at all.

If the right had the memory of small goldfish, Reagan would be considered a RINO.

 
 

Sorry, it’s the weekend, my brian’s off the clock. Since the Parah Sailin’ qoute is refering to Obama’s policy of not retaliating agianst non-nuclear countries with a nuclear response and not to the SALT treaty I will rephrase that.

Actually it’s more like getting out there on a playground, a bunch of kids, getting ready to fight, and one of the kids saying, ‘Go ahead, punch me in the face or even kick me in the balls, and I’m not going to retaliate with a thousand gallons of napalm but I and all my allies do have these rocket propelled grenades. Go ahead and do what you want to with me.’

 
 

Veiled, uh, butt reference?

I prefer to think of it as the Taint of the Solar System.

 
 

DISCLAIMER: I am actually damn near the opposite of a cyber-nerd, thus the hot-shit-sounding option above may actually cack completely, being something I dug out of Google’s tripes in 20 seconds or so.

Thanks for the suggestion, I had looked at the cached version of the site and tried your idea. Nada.

Oh well, had to be there, I guess.

 
 

Oh well, had to be there, I guess.

I suspect that if you are patient it will come around again on the gee-tar, possibly with a slight change of topic.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Oh, for fuck’s fucking sake.

I am always amused at how surprised I am at wingnuts’ absolute insanity…you’d think I’d start learning how to anticipate this shit.

 
 

Duh…Putin’s Sooper Sekrit doomsday weather machine created the fog.

 
 

UPDATE: Some people are suspicious. Nonsense. With Vladimir Putin taking personal charge of the investigation, the truth is certain to come out.

Heh indeedy.

Also, the fact that the pilot made four aborted landing attempts conveniently gave the KGB time to set up their missiles.

 
 

I suspect that if you are patient it will come around again on the gee-tar, possibly with a slight change of topic.

There’s a “movement” joke in here somewhere but it’s deep in the bowels of my subconscious.

 
 

There’s a “movement” joke in here somewhere but it’s deep in the bowels of my subconscious.

You just need to loosen up.

 
 

you’d think I’d start learning how to anticipate this shit.

No one anticipates The Spanish Inquisition shit.

 
 

I’m on a [fecal] roll!

 
 

You just need to loosen up.

Hmm. Then, I can get anything I want?

Cool.

 
 

I’m on a [fecal] roll!

Scat, you!

 
 

Scat, you!

You’re just upset at being number two in commenting.

 
 

And you need one more, N__B.

The turd one’s the charm.

 
 

The turd one’s the charm.

I think I saw that bracelet on Etsy.

 
 

I think I saw that bracelet on Etsy.

Yep. Found object art, no doubt.

 
 

Oh, course, Etsy is a wonderful Arts and Craps site.

 
 

They sell a very nice “of” there, as well. I have bought several but lost them.

 
 

Commentum ad stercus?

 
 

Commentum ad stercus?

Hey, it happens.

 
 

Spoor afternoon when all one has to do is dropping these comments here, dontcha think?

 
 

*Yes, I pulled those numbers out of my ass. Got a problem with that?
**Won’t someone think of the cement?

Wasn’t that combination mentioned in the “Things found up people’s butts” website?

 
 

Go ahead and do what you want to with me.

Now that there is a “starbursts” moment if ever I did see one.

 
 

Watch carefully: dude takes the aluminum back off before crumpling it into the blender.

Cheater.

Sent from my iPad Android phone.

 
 

Wasn’t that combination mentioned in the “Things found up people’s butts” website?

I never made it past the colander.

 
 

I never made it past the colander.

I don’t think I could handle monthly pictures of … that.

 
 

I don’t think I could handle monthly pictures of … that.

It’s for people with iron stomachs and spandex colons.

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

Huh. This thread’s been up long enough that I suspect the next one will be a Brad panic-attack post. But what about? Maybe the next Supreme Court nominee?

 
 

558 comments. It’s a long way 1000.

 
 

“to” also.
FY iPhone

 
 

He sassed her? This is the term that they used? Why not just go all out and say he got uppity?

 
 

Shapiro:

Perhaps they’re skeptical of the Enquirer’s reportage (a bizarre position since the John Edwards sex scandal).

The Enquirer is always right!

 
 

1/2 term low-population governor complains about widely-approved executive nuclear treaty that’s clearly out of her depth = A-OK!

Commander-in-Chief responds to said person’s complaints = SASSY NEGRO DON’T KNOW HIS PLACE!

 
 

I read the comments at Newsweek. There’s a fellow there who keeps defending Sarah Palin’s expertise in nuclear affairs, on the basis of the fact that her statements agree with those of other “experts” who disagree with Obama.

Occam’s razor says that she doesn’t know jack-shit, she’s just parroting the Republican talking points, but…

And, yes, why not just write “Uppity Negro sasses a white lady?”

 
Smiling Mortician
 

I suspect the next one will be a Brad panic-attack post. But what about?
Just fired up the Vague-Dread-O-Meter, but nothing’s making a ping yet.

 
 

I suspect the next one will be a Brad panic-attack post. But what about?
– – – – – – – – – – –
Just fired up the Vague-Dread-O-Meter, but nothing’s making a ping yet.

Is it too early to start worrying about the Sun entering its Red Giant phase?

 
 

566TH OR SO!

* ??? thread ??? *

Wall Street loved the Nazis, as did most conservatives

A love sanctified by the US courts, as of the day that they made taxpayers compensate them for wartime damage to their German properties. That boot to America’s collective gonads was followed very soon afterward by GM’s use of criminal conspiracy to obliterate the nation’s cheap & reliable rail transit system – & being levied a fee fine of under $1,000.

Oh, the wonders & mysteries of corporate culture.

This thread’s been up long enough that I suspect the next one will be a Brad panic-attack post.

The day is fast approaching, ladies & germs, when we will ALL be Brad panic-attack posts.

 
 

Sunspots: greasy buildup?

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!
 

“Social justice” is an oxymoron — a contradiction of terms, built on a lie.

Helen Keller opined, “Until the great mass of the people shall be filled with the sense of responsibility for each other’s welfare, social justice can never be attained.”

Phrases such as “social justice,” “political justice,” and “economic justice” have a certain egalitarian connotation — which is why they are so often used as the justification for more and more big-government programs. It’s clever wordplay, for we all believe in “liberty and justice for all.” But isn’t justice about righting wrongs?

When we think of “justice being served,” the image that comes to mind is a courtroom, where everyone is judged fairly. Yet when the word “justice” is appended to antecedents such as “social,” it means something quite distinct from the application of jurisprudence.

“Social justice” posits a false political premise: that the economic condition of “poverty” is an inherent societal injustice perpetrated by the inequities of capitalism against an entire social strata of innocent victims, depriving them of fundamental economic entitlements and securities — a civil rights issue — which further contends that the only just remedy is the redistribution of wealth to achieve societal equality.

As President Obama explained:

… the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. [O]ne of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was, because the civil rights movement became so court focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change.

[emphasis mine]

We just saw “redistributive change” when Obama’s “coalition of powers,” despite overwhelming public objection, shoved ObamaCare into law, claiming how unfair and unjust it was that millions in our country lack health care coverage. So how is this great social injustice to be remedied? Not by any effort to increase health care availability or lower costs, but by massive new entitlement legislation mandating the redistribution of wealth. Or, as Vice President Joe Biden noted, “You may call it redistribution of wealth. I just call it being fair.”

If “fairness” is misunderstood to be the forced equality of resultant circumstances or outcomes, then life obviously isn’t fair, nor could it ever be: That’s why bras and jockstraps come in different sizes. Individuals will always have innate physical, intellectual, and psychological differences that affect their lots in life. Everyone’s life experiences differ, from when and where one is born to how someone is raised, schooling (or not), culture and customs, achievements and failures, everything. Besides, failure is one of life’s greatest teachers, and without its sting of accountability, all achievement would be meaningless.

As altruistic a notion as it might be for everyone to be able to live in plenty and for no one to be in want, it is utterly naïve to believe that the mitigation of poverty — even for equality’s, fairness’s, or justice’s sake — could ever be achieved by means of the redistribution of wealth. It is an exercise in futility. Winston Churchill noted: “For a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.” Jesus said, “The poor you will have with you always” (Mark 14:7). That’s not to say that poverty is an incurable infirmity, but rather, it is the realization that poverty is but a symptom, not the underlying disease.

We are all equally born into an initial state of poverty: entering this world naked, empty-handed, hungry, unable to feed or clothe ourselves, uneducated, physically vulnerable, and 100% dependent on the provision of others for our basic survival. From that moment, as we mature into adulthood, regardless of all the circumstantial advantages or disadvantages that fate deals us, successfully making our way forward in life is about learning to exchange complete dependence for independence, individuality, and ultimately self-sufficiency. Unfortunately, far too many people never fully achieve self-sufficiency (which can still be done even on very modest means) — or worse, they are deceived by a parasitic nanny-state into believing that self-reliance is either unnecessary or impossible. This deception is the greatest social injustice of all.

There is a vast difference between living in perpetual poverty and just being broke. Most of us have experienced, at least once, if not more than once, what it’s like to be broke and struggling for a time. Being broke is a cash-flow problem. Living in chronic poverty and dependent upon government is a self-sufficiency problem. Paraphrasing the old proverb, those who are temporarily broke might only need “a fish” to assuage their hunger for a time, but those mired in poverty need to “learn to fish” so that they may eat for a lifetime.

Benjamin Franklin observed,

I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.

America was founded on the idea of offering its citizens the opportunity for self-sufficient lives and great achievement, not an entitlement by anyone to the fruits of others’ achievements. In America we enjoy the liberty to pursue happiness, with no guarantee whatsoever of any specific outcome. Contrary to the creed of social justice, the prosperity created by capitalism doesn’t cause poverty — it cures it. Conversely, the quixotic folly of social justice’s wealth redistribution only perpetuates the infirmity of poverty as it diminishes the cure of prosperity.

If government really cared about lifting the maximum number of people out of poverty, it would do everything within its power to get out of capitalism’s way and let its citizens exercise their liberty to achieve ever-greater prosperity.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

But what about? Maybe the next Supreme Court nominee?

I foresee “Obama dun sold us out over off-shore drilling! He is teh worst president for always, just like Bush!”

 
 

Sunspots: greasy buildup?

Ooh, you watch it, the Sun said no one is ever to call him Shorty Greasy Spot-Spot again.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Oh no, he might go hide in a cave, and then we’d have to set up a big mirror in front of it and act like we have a new sun, that’s way better, and that comes with blackjack, whores and snooker!

Then he’ll come back out, upset that we replaced him so soon, only discover we tricked him.

 
 

RE: Supreme Court nominee: Patrick Fitzgerald would be an interesting choice. Not that it will happen, just maybe that it would be a good thing if it did.

 
 

Oh no, he might go hide in a cave, and then we’d have to set up a big mirror in front of it and act like we have a new sun, that’s way better, and that comes with blackjack, whores and snooker!
Then he’ll come back out, upset that we replaced him so soon, only discover we tricked him.

Yeah, that oughta work, as long as the giant evil serpent of chaos doesn’t devour the crew of the solar barge as it journeys through the underworld.

 
HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
 

CADILLAC – CORVETTES & NASH

[Cadillac’s the Revisionist History]

Now, we went to bed and had a hard time not the other one get your mind out of the gutter girls, but a difficult time getting to sleep, something was grinding on us, stop it girls clean up your act, we meant out minds were else were and there you go again that clue guy with the nice butt right. So, anyway, we had read an article during the day were the author had written about the [LOVE BOAT], the [1959] Cadillac and like any of you kids, even know what a Cadillac, or the [LOVE BOAT] was or even care. But, to have revisionist history written by a kid who never saw one, give me a break. The boy described it in military precision as a [WAR MACHINE] from the two front protruding chrome front projectile shaped forms to suggest its military appearance, to its higher than the roof of the car fins, in the rear to suggest the late [P-38] dual prop-engine fighter of [WWII] World War Two, to all the chrome, and its huge back trunk, for the Brits the Bonnet. The first taught was this kid is a nut case, but then we understood he must be a Democratic who believed in Nancy Pelosi revisionist written history.

[Cadillac the LOVE BOAT]

The truth is a Cadillac was [THE LOVE BOAT], when you spoke Cadillac you spoke Comfort, Leisure and Luxury, A man’s size version of a woman, a Cadillac Woman, [Aretha Franklin], say about Come And Ride My Pink Cadillac, but the new generation has no idea what the girl was really singing about, and Afternoons Delight would mean Ice Cream to them. Now, we always liked women who talked so real men understood just what they meant, May West, [I’m The Best Woman Walking These Streets and Come Up and See Me Sometime Big Boy], Loren McCall, [Are those Quarters in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me, If you need me just whistle, you do know how to whistle, don’t you, just put your lips together and blow] and the Bond Girls, but back to the Cadillac. The Cadillac Oozed Sex, for those of us and men have types, those of us who like the FULL BODIED TYPES, more than a mouth full is a waste for one sitting but who’s planning a one course meal. Now, if it was a [2] two-tone job, White and Pink, Black and Pink, Full White, Full Black, Black on White, White on Black, the tone of color was all good. When it pulled into our Station, it was always Full Service, pull the old hose out and fill that baby with high octane, and we mean, top it off, always check under the hood pull the old dip stick out, wipe it off, stick it back in ALL THE WAY, and check that oil, no need asking, if there low on oil, you know they want it right up to the full mark. An a Cadillac has a BIG BACK SEAT, a very soft yet firm back seat, just place your hands upon it and feel the warm, soft, firmness, you know this baby has back, from looking at it. And fins, this baby is meant to Fly, you get this mama revved-up and pop her clutch, she’s got a full bored and blown engine.

[JP’s Corvette’s]

Now, we were once again going to come down on the case of the Jew’s both Israeli Jew’s and Non-Israeli Jew’s, but we will make one remark about those [JP’s], you can’t call them [Jap’s] that refers to the Japanese of [WWII] for all those Great-GREAT-Grandkids, who could care less, and you can no longer refer to them as [JAP’s], Jewish American Princess’s any longer, they can be found in almost every country if not every country in the world, around the globe, so now you have to just call them [JP’s] Jewish Princess’s, but the one thing we did want to say about them was they are like the late [50’s] Fifties, early [60’s] Corvette’s, High Priced, High Octane, High Powered, made for only Driver and Rider, always in a heated rush, unlike the pictures portrayed by the [AIPAC/AZC] The American Israeli Public Affairs Committee/American Zionist Council, after [2] Two-Years of [IDF] Israeli Defense Forced drab uniforms, they shed more than the uniforms down at the Mediterranean on a hot summers afternoon, mostly in a one-piece French Bikini.

[Niecy Nash]

Now, Niecy Nash is a FULL BODIED, Ebony Goddess, on the American version of Dancing with the Stars this season. Now, the girl has the name NASH, now a Nash Rambler was a Drive-In Car, it was the type of car you took to an Outdoor Drive In Theater, the seats all folded down, and you just drove it in, and drove it out, at the old Drive-In. But Niecy is not a small size model NASH Rambler but more in the Mid-Range-Size Hybrid modern day model of the Cadillac, Corvette, and Nash all parts in tune, ready to roar, when Niecy says beep, Beep, BEEP, me BABY, she sure isn’t talking about being topped off with the low octane brand, say why don’t you just latch yourself onto these hood ornaments, pop my clutch and will turn corners like it’s on rails, which color version do you prefer, do you prefer your [2] two-tone in Ebony on White or White on Ebony, if not stated prior, guys have certain models they prefer, Hey Louie! [Louis Van Amstel] there is another customer over there and he has been giving you the eye since he pulled in the Italian Job with the Bruno License Plates, let me handle this one. Now, Niecy let me pot the hood and will check the dip stick, too begin our full service treatment, we can discuss the color arrangement while your getting serviced. And the kid taught the Cadillac Was a War Machine!

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

 
HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
 

ANAT KAMM/[AIPAC/AZC] AFFAIR

[Where is the connection?]

So, just what is the connection between the Anat Kamm Affair and the [AIPAC/AZC] The American Israeli Public Affairs Committee/American Zionist Council, everything. First it has to be understood just who is running the show, where is the central hub, and who they really are, [AIPAC/AZC] is the Jewish Mafia, and yes Rahm Emanuel along with the rest of the family are the Jewish Mob Family from Halsted Street, in Chicago. Now, if your having a hard time wrapping your head around this, look at the reality, every member of the elected [Federal] government, shows their faces at the quarterly meeting of the [AIPAC/AZC], and everyone pledges their undying support to the Unshakable Special Relationship, as they receive their bribes from the Organization. And for those who don’t get on board and dare to cross them, who put country above self interests, [AIPAC/AZC] controlling the lions share of the Media use’s it as an effective weapon, of character assassinations, using, [hit job] tactics, with utter disregard for truth, of targeted libelous distortion of records, based upon fabrications, falsehoods, and selective misquotes, along with E-mail barrages across the Internet.

[All Roads Lead to the New Rome]

Where does the inter-connection between the head of the Israeli-American Empire, take place, of course on the not so neutral grounds of [AIPAC/AZC], all roads lead to the New Rome. So, what does this have to do with the Anat Kamm Affair, everything, there are [2K] Two-Thousand pages from the [IDF] Israeli Defense Force, Databanks of proof of illegal activates conducted by the [IDF] connecting the dots from beginning to end thru the intricate maze, on computer [CD’s, Flash-Drives, and on Hard-Copy] all in the hand of one, Israeli reporter, name Uri Blau, hiding in the [UK] United Kingdom and under their protection, given to him by a Whistle Blower named Anat Kamm, showing how [AIPAC/AZC] using the [IDF] as their agency in Israel, illegally paving the way for the eviction, and deportation out of Israel of Palestinian families, taking over their properties illegal , without even Israeli permits issued, that was taken care of by greasing a few palms, followed by the construction of roads, schools, synagogues, yeshivas, and police stations now underway all of which are traced back to, you guessed it [AIPAC/AZC] of [75%] Seventy-Five percent of the outer first defensive ring settlements around the Eternal City of Jerusalem, with [30] Thirty projects on previously privately owned Palestinian land.

[Follow the Money]

Follow the money! The money trail traces possibly thru the Ehud Barak Ltd. Consulting Company for one, directly to either [AIPAC/AZC] or too such possible front firms as Florida Construction Company owner billionaire Irving Moskowitz with greasing the palm payments having been made to the very top on both sides of the world and every country on the face of the planet and their leadership, including Ariel Sharon on one side of the world and at least [300] Three-Hundred Federally Elected Representative [55%] Fifty-Five Percent of those in office, on the opposite side of the world, as we stated just for starters. Money spent on everything from paying for targeted assassinations in every country spanning the globe, footing the cost for forged Passports, the whole double zero, James Bond thing, right down to throwing people out of their homes to make way for the Eternal City to become the Closed Capital of Israel what ever the cost, [AIPAC/AZC] will find the cash. The [AIPAC/AZC] is hard at work spending a lot of Doe-Ray-Me, trying to make this thing simply go away, they got the power, the question is for just how long, until that Money Trail like the perfection of Nazis paperwork is their down fall?

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

 
 

No, not you. You’re here now?

 
HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
 

[ANTHONY SAID,
April 11, 2010 at 6:33]

No, not you. You’re here now?

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

TRIATHLON is everywhere, for [we] are Legion.

HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN

 
 

Now, you would think if Trolly-pants aka “spread the legs” really admired the writings he spams, he would at least credit them with the author’s name instead of blatantly violating copyright…..but no.

 
 

If government really cared about lifting the maximum number of people out of poverty, it would do everything within its power to get out of capitalism’s way and let its citizens exercise their liberty to achieve ever-greater prosperity.

Shut the fuck up. I’m sorry, but seriously, shut the fuck up and go read a history book.

We already tried your “ever greater prosperity through capitalism” bullshit. It was called the Gilded Age, it resulted in staggering poverty for thousands and thousands of Americans, and its monumental failure in guaranteeing prosperity is the reason why “redistributive” politics became so popular during the turn of the century.

It wasn’t until the 1930s and 1940s that government finally cared about lifting people out of poverty enough to stop getting out of capitalism’s way. Know what that produced? The greatest sustained economic boom in American history, a time when the average American was more wealthy than ever before, and the only time in the history of the country that wealth actually “trickled” down from Wall Street to the rest of us peons – not because Wall Street “exercised its liberty to achieve ever-greater prosperity,” but because there was finally a union movement powerful enough (thanks to the backing of the government) to guarantee that workers actually got paid a decent wage. Think it’s an accident that even conservatives remembering the “good old days” are always pining for the 1950s and not the 1920s? Think again, jackass.

To claim that Republican-style free market fundamentalism is more effective than social democracy in reducing poverty flies in the face of every fact in evidence. I’m fucking sorry, but this isn’t a serious argument, any more than “Does Feudalism Produce More Wealth Than Capitalism?” The fact that it’s treated as such is a commentary on what a farce our political scene and our education system are, not a reflection of any kind of reality.

 
 

This thread’s been up long enough that I suspect the next one will be a Brad panic-attack post. But what about?

Does it matter? The panic’s the thing.

 
 

Hey, when’s it time to fix the timestamp on posts? I’m not talking about the timezone. But how about the minutes? This shit is confusing to me, an easily confused person. At least get it within 10 minutes.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Chris–

In the 40s-70s we didn’t have billions of Chinese and Indian peasants willing to do idiot work like assembling shoes and autos in factories. Get used to it, in the future thanks to globalization and competition from CHINA you’re going to have to be highly educated or get used to minimum wage or the unemployment line. Deal with it.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

What the fuck was that shit? Did someone start copypasta’ing out one of those crazy-ass shampoo bottles?

 
 

In the 40s-70s we didn’t have billions of Chinese and Indian peasants willing to do idiot work like assembling shoes and autos in factories. Get used to it, in the future thanks to globalization and competition from CHINA you’re going to have to be highly educated or get used to minimum wage or the unemployment line. Deal with it.

Well, it certainly sounds like capitalism’s doing a wonderful job of promoting wealth, Wordspreader. Thank you for making my point.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Yeah, that oughta work, as long as the giant evil serpent of chaos doesn’t devour the crew of the solar barge as it journeys through the underworld.

Well, look, it’s either that or start dredging the river his kid “accidentally” parked his chariot in. Personally, I’m in favor of the one where we just get to mock him some more to show what a twit he’s being.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

It provide wealth for the TALENTED, the entrepreneurial, the SKILLED and the EDUCATED, not some Detroit idiot who demands to make $55/hour screwing on steering columns and pushing a broom for 40 hours a week, along with full “Cadillac” retirement and medical bennies the rest of his life.

A Chinese will work 80 hours a week for $5/hour, so pull yourself up by your bootstraps, buddy. It’s a global, COMPETITIVE economy.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Oh yeah, and said high-school educated, low-IQ talentless hack also will demand that he be placed in a “job bank” if he is laid off, where he is literally paid by his union to sit around and do nothing but watch DVDs and play Scrabble all day.

And this only happens if he screws up about ten times. That’s right, he gets second, third, fourth, fifth chances thanks to his union thugs intimidating his bosses despite his repeated screwups. That’s the “golden age” you want to return to? Well you can’t have it, because we’re globalized now, baby!

And people wonder why GM couldn’t compete….

 
 

Ah, so it DOESN’T provide wealth for everyone. It just provides wealth for people with college degrees. Everyone else should simply kiss the ass of the guys with college degrees and be thankful that they’re having the very great honor of making rich people richer.

And somehow, you expect me to believe your way “helps the poor.” Sure.

 
 

And this only happens if he screws up about ten times. That’s right, he gets second, third, fourth, fifth chances thanks to his union thugs intimidating his bosses despite his repeated screwups. That’s the “golden age” you want to return to? Well you can’t have it, because we’re globalized now, baby!

Fucking blue collars hicks, thinking they deserve the same golden parachutes and immunity from failure as Wall Street…

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Bill Gates doesn’t have a college degree. I said it also provides wealth for those with talent, ambition, and drive.

It doesn’t help “the poor” per se, but it does benefit the talented and intelligent. Oh, and not all college degrees are worth something. If you’re a liberal arts grad, you’re going to be screwed, too.

Sorry! You got into all that student debt for nothing! Enjoy your Starbucks gig!

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

And the competition is to see who installs slave labor first. Who can get someone to work for 0$ per hour! The true competitive spirit, as embodied by plantation owners.

 
 

“Most annoying M. Night Shyamalan movie ever.”

Spoken like someone who (mercifully) never sat through LADY IN THE WATER.

 
 

And the competition is to see who installs slave labor first. Who can get someone to work for 0$ per hour! The true competitive spirit, as embodied by plantation owners.

Right. His “globalized” jig is the Gilded Age gone global – turn out the most massive profits imaginable by paying barely more than a living wage to your workers, which in turn makes it impossible for anyone who wants to lead a decent life to compete in the economy.

Of course, that doesn’t help lift people out of poverty, but it benefits the people he likes, and really, what the fuck else matters.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

That’s right, it’s called the “iron law of wages”, Chris, and it’s gone global and you can’t stop it. Unskilled manual labor is once again being priced PROPERLY where the market sets the rate, not some union thugs.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

And you can still get out of poverty–but this time it is going to require hard, hard work and real drive on your part, not some cushy union gig.

 
 

“Bill Gates doesn’t have a college degree. I said it also provides wealth for those with talent, ambition, and drive.”

Bill Gates’ dad is a prominent lawyer; his mother a well-off businesswoman. So it’s not like Bill started out on the catcher’s mound, economically speaking.

 
 

“That’s right, it’s called the “iron law of wages”, Chris, and it’s gone global and you can’t stop it. Unskilled manual labor is once again being priced PROPERLY where the market sets the rate, not some union thugs.”

Somehow, that doesn’t seem to have affected Europe. Unemployment problems exist (as they do here), but government safety nets and unions have guaranteed that economic crises don’t completely fucking ruin you – and social mobility is still higher in most West European countries than in the United States. So yes, you can stop it from adversely affecting you. The U.S. has simply chosen not to, a fact for which thousands of people have paid.

“Hard work”? Do you have any idea how many blue collar people in this country spend their entire life working hard with nothing to show for it? Do you have any idea how many people succeed not because of hard work or intelligence but because they’ve been born to and then bailed out twenty times by the right set of parents?

 
 

It provide wealth for the TALENTED, the entrepreneurial, the SKILLED and the EDUCATED

So presumably your retirement plan involves a lot of expenditure on kneepads and mouthwash.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

So, listen.

Let’s imagine this world you live in, where someone rises up out of poverty based on hard, hard work and real drive. I’m assuming that in your world, it would then be tantamount to blasphemy and quite honestly Satanic will in order to then look backwards and go “holy shit, that was difficult. Maybe I should help those who were behind me get to this perch as well”

Which is what unions were originally about, the people on the cusp-of-poverty saying that they needed to band together as a group in order to properly push back against the boot heel of those who had made it so difficult to rise up out of poverty in the first place.

I’m assuming these demons who would upset the balance of Randian supermen would have to be put down, right? To protect and secure your future as one of the elites who worked so hard to get where you are and who would be ruined if some poor schmuck off the street made as much as you without crawling through glass shards and breathing in toxic fumes.

You don’t really need to answer. I’m wagering it’ll just be another screaming fit about globalization blah blah Captains of Industry blah blah U.S. Steel, blah blah.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Bill Gates’ dad is a prominent lawyer; his mother a well-off businesswoman. So it’s not like Bill started out on the catcher’s mound, economically speaking.

Bill Gates, congressional page at 17. Bill Gates, enrolled in Harvard. Bill Gates, had the start-up capital for his business available.

Bill Gates was not a hard-luck story betting all his finances on a dice-roll, is what I’m getting at.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Europe is increasingly economically irrelevant.

SAIC, a Chiense car company, sold more cars in China than every car maker sold in Germany combined last month.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

SAIC, a Chiense car company, sold more cars in China than every car maker sold in Germany combined last month.

And if Germany had half the population of China, that would probably mean something.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

That’s exactly my point Trotsky. There are more upper-class Chinese and Indians then there are Americans or Europeans total.

A huge population means a huge upper class with a huge underclass, a dream world for a capitalist. Enough peons to do the menial work with a big enough market of rich people to sell things to!

 
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So basically, China and India are proving Henry Ford wrong. You don’t have to pay your workers a high wage to sell more of your products since there’s already a HUGE overclass in Asia with an insatiable demand! You can pay them peanuts and never worry!

 
 

Do you have any idea how many people succeed not because of hard work or intelligence but because they’ve been born to and then bailed out twenty times by the right set of parents?”

Hmm, sounds like you’ve nailed CONTINUE TO BE AN ASSHOLE perfectly. Though he’s probably been bailed out twenty times three…

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Okay, now I’m not sure again. Is someone imitating the troll, or is it the actual troll. I just… can’t imagine it being that direct about the role of the “peons” doing the menial work so the elites can profit off their blood and sweat.

 
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For example, the average Chinese worker makes very little in terms of money, yet guess what? There’s a SHORTAGE of luxury cars in China! China is the biggest market for the Mercedes S-Class and BMW 7-Series! A SHORTAGE despite 100s of millions of workers making <$5/hour!

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Oh, I’m quite direct, Trotsky. I speak the truth, and about our future.

 
 

I dunno, Trotsky. Randites have been known to go off like speed freaks just from a whiff of Galt’s underwear…

 
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Think about it again.

Chines workers are paid next to nothing, yet they have a SHORTAGE of high-end luxury sedans!

Meanwhile, Europe and the USA aren’t buying too much of anything these days, despite having overpaid workers.

Who do you think the future belongs to? Where do you think companies will want to do business?

 
 

And you seriously think Chinese workers will put up with this kind of inequality forever?

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Hey, deering? What happened the last time Chinese workers went up against the government?

They got smashed. Besides, they’re more than content to get some scraps from the table. Even making $3/hour in a Shanghai factory is a lot better than going back to the rice paddy, which is their only other option. The government BANS unions!

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Again, where do you think the successful corporations will be in the future?

Where is a corporation going to want to do business?

In a place like China where they have a huge market of wealth and upper middle class customers ALONG WITH an even bigger local base of unskilled, low wage workers?

Or Europe (and this now applies to the USA under Obama), which is incredibly difficult to do business in, that is an over-saturated market in terms of demand, that has all kinds of personal injury attorneys (parasites) suing you over the slightest screw-up?

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Also, if China is showing a shortage of luxury German cars because gosh-darn it, so many high-level Party officials are buying them, how does that show Europe’s irrelevant? It would appear that they’ll wind up making spectacular profits even with their plans to pay their employees livable wages.

In which case, the problem American companies has isn’t so much unions as the shitty designers of American vehicles. If we designed less-shitty cars, maybe China would buy them from us and bring profit back to our country.

But no, it must be the guy on the factory floor who asked for a smoke break.

 
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Trosky, guess where the Chinese market BMW 7-Series and S-Class are made?

Shanghai. That’s right: Shanghai, not Bavaria. Using Chinese-made parts. And they’re just as good as one made by an over-paid German. A car can be assembled anywhere, just like anything else.

Were they paying Hans back in Munich 55 euros/hour they wouldn’t be making any profit on them.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

And in 10 or 15 years, the western governments are going to have to open up to Chinese-assmbled cars, just like they have with TVs and computers and shoes and microwave ovens. You’ll be able to buy a $12,000 Chinese-made Ford at Wal-Mart, that’s just as good as the $30,000 ones being sold now.

 
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Of course it will be designed by American ENGINEERS, but low-educated, low-skilled workers will be Chinese.

The Engineers and CEOs will still do very well, probably even better, however.

 
 

Relying on people to forever bow down to economic servitude is the kind of sucker’s bet history often disproves. It didn’t work in Czarist Russia; it didn’t work in Great Britain; and it didn’t work in Africa or India (to name just a few places)–so just why do you think the Chinese will throw up their hands and accept injustice?

 
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They’ll keep them JUST happy enough and getting by JUST enough and busy SO much that they won’t have the desire, nor the time.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

So, anyway.

Chris, deering, how’s your night going?

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Besides, the middle class there fears the poor more than their rulers, and you can’t have a revolt without the middle class. The middle class and bribed, and content.

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Boy, I can just feel the anger and rage building up in you, Trotsky, because you know everything I just said is accurate and true.

There will be no return to 1940s-1970s America and Europe, it’s over. Living standards will level out across the entire world’s uneducated working class. It will be better for the Chinese and Indians, but probably bring Europe’s and America’s back to a 1920s-style standard of living. That will be the new global standard.

 
 

Trotsky–right well. I’m taking a break from doing taxes and I’m seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. 🙂

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

No, you started talking about engineers, and well, that’s just tedious. You may as well have started talking about A=A and I just don’t have the time nor inclination to bother with people’s fantasies at that point.

Still, y’know something, fuck it. I’m bored. How’re you doing tonight? Do anything interesting today?

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Trotsky–right well. I’m taking a break from doing taxes and I’m seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. 🙂

That’s great, glad to hear it. You going to to get it in before the 15th, or are you going to bum-rush the stage along with everyone else?

 
 

Yeah, it will be in before the 15th–as last-minute as I usually run with this, I always get it in pre-deadline or on deadline. And how are you doing?

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Pretty well. I’ve got this terrible case of insomnia though, which is why I’m up at three in the morning asking people how their days went.

 
 

Hey, deering? What happened the last time Chinese workers went up against the government? They got smashed.

What I love about this is that you can just tell he can’t wipe the big grin off his face while typing this. Sure, China’s an extraordinarily repressive society in which any kind of expression by the people (whether it’s about inequality, corruption in government, too little political freedom, you name it) is met with violence from government thugs – and in his little worldview, that’s a good thing. Peons exist to serve people at the top, and while it’s outrageous that they might sometimes have their own thugs, it’s perfectly acceptable for those at the top to rule through thuggery (whether it’s the CCP or the American trusts of the nineteenth century).

Besides, they’re more than content to get some scraps from the table. Even making $3/hour in a Shanghai factory is a lot better than going back to the rice paddy, which is their only other option. The government BANS unions!

If they were more than content, they’d never have gone up against the government in the first place. They don’t stick to their factories because they’re content, or because some kind of invisible hand comes down to determine the wages – they stick to their factories because if they ask for decent working conditions, they’ll get shot. It’s not the market at work, it’s just brute force (in the form of government intervention, ironically enough).

Of course it will be designed by American ENGINEERS, but low-educated, low-skilled workers will be Chinese.

Right – it’s a ruling-class vs. working class system, with nothing in between. People at the top can continue getting richer and richer, while people at the bottom continue to get nothing but the scraps from the table of power. Better yet, by using the China example, Wordspreader indicates that it won’t be enough for the market to make people poor, we’ll have to depend on government intervention of the most brutal kind imaginable to keep them that way. Pretty picture, honest. I’m really feeling that “lifting the maximum number of people out of poverty” thing right now.

 
 

So let me see if I have this straight:

The Red Chinese, the Communists, have it all worked out. They have figured out how to engineer an overclass, a middle class, and a peon class that will work for ever and ever amen.

Meanwhile, America and Europe, those socialist hellholes, have ruined their economies by trying to engineer an economic environment where –BOOM!–

That was my head exploding.

 
Citizen Refugee
 

That was my head exploding.

I stay in the boat. Still I get covered in bits of brain matter.

 
 

Trosky, guess where the Chinese market BMW 7-Series and S-Class are made?

Shanghai. That’s right: Shanghai, not Bavaria. Using Chinese-made parts. And they’re just as good as one made by an over-paid German. A car can be assembled anywhere, just like anything else.

Well, like pretty much everything else you pull out of your ass around here, that is complete bullshit. It’s also easily verifiable bullshit.

I’ll be generous and assume that you know that BMW doesn’t make the S-Class, and that you were merely being unclear rather than stupid. At any rate,

BMW,

Production

In 2006, BMW produced 1,366,838 four-wheeled vehicles, which were manufactured in five countries.[17] In 2009, it manufactured 1,258,417 four-wheeled vehicles.[1] In 2009, BMW Motorrad produced 82,631 motorcycles.[1]
Country Make Cars (2006) Cars (2008) Models
Germany BMW 905,057 901,898 Others
United Kingdom Mini 187,454 235,019 All Minis
Rolls-Royce 67 1,417 All Rolls-Royce
Austria BMW 114,306 82,863 BMW X3
USA BMW 105,172 170,741 BMW X5, X6
South Africa BMW 54,782 47,980 BMW 3-Series
Total 1,366,838 1,439,918

Nope. No China.

Mercedes,

Besides its native Germany, Mercedes-Benz vehicles are also manufactured or assembled in:

* Argentina (buses, trucks and the Sprinter van. The first Mercedes-Benz factory outside of Germany)[16]
* Austria (G-Class)[17]
* Bosnia and Herzegovina
* Brazil[18] (buses, trucks, C-class passenger cars (export only), established in 1956)
* Canada
* Egypt[19]
* Ghana (buses, trucks, taxis)
* Hungary (construction of a new plant in the country announced on 18 June 2008, for the next generation A- and B-Class)[20][21]
* India[22]
* Indonesia[23]
* Iran
* Malaysia[24]
* Mexico
* Nigeria[25] (buses, trucks, utility motors and the van Sprinter)
* South Africa[26]
* South Korea (Mercedes-Benz Musso and MB100 models manufactured by SsangYong Motor Company)
* Thailand (assembly of C, E and S class vehicles by the Thonburi Group)[27]
* Turkey[28]
* United Kingdom (The SLR sports car is built at the McLaren Technology Centre in Woking).Brackley, Northamptonshire, United Kingdom Mercedes Grand Prix Factory
* USA The Mercedes-Benz M-Class Sport Utility, the R-Class Sport Tourer, and the full-sized GL-Class Luxury Sport Utility Vehicle are all built at the Mercedes-Benz production facility near Tuscaloosa, Alabama.[29]

* Vietnam

Not there either.

Take your useless twaddle elsewhere.

And before you say “Thailand” in regards to the list above, yes, they make a few S-Class cars there. The plant has a total capacity of 12,000, spread out among various models. Not very big for M-B. The Alabama plant has an expected output of 174,000 units. Also, Thailand ain’t China. Fuck back off to your swamp. You are not in any way a credible source or a worthwhile party for any discussion.

 
 

Now, you would think if Trolly-pants aka “spread the legs” really admired the writings he spams, he would at least credit them with the author’s name instead of blatantly violating copyright…..but no.

Circa 2002, a troll carefully explained to me that if something is on the web then its free to use. Since it was a moderated forum, I had to settle for saying “But, that is wrong” rather than calling him a motherfucking thief too stupid to write his own arguments.

 
 

And while I have the troll badgerized, it’s obvious from your responses he’s advocating for a global race to the bottom. If Bill Gates were to say this (and to his credit, I have not heard of him doing so), he’d at least have the logic of his own circumstances on his side. For anyone else to do so is amazingly stupid: not only will the working class be destroyed, but so will the “productive class” of service workers. Engineering jobs are already outsourced to India, and there’s nothing inherently home-market-based about law, or advertising, or pharmaceutical research. The only people who will benefit are the ultra-rich, as the entire middle class and the low-end rich (small factory owners, for example) will get squashed.

Feudalism, here we come.

 
 

Bill Gates doesn’t have a college degree.

In contrast, I have a PhD in Pedantry, and the advanced technical abilities required to check claims with the Google.

 
 

I have a PhD in Pedantry

I assume your thesis concerned how to get those things to hang precisely between the breasts.

 
 

I assume your thesis concerned how to get those things to hang precisely between the breasts.

That’s Pendantry.

 
 

There will be no return to 1940s-1970s America and Europe, it’s over

Precisely, and I bet then war-torn Europe is pleased as punch by that! After all, it took them forty years to get competitive with the United States (which in the mid-century pretty much had the world to itself, economically speaking, and pissed it away with tax cuts and shit but I digress), and now we have a stronger EU that’s taking America’s financial centrism away and turning us into the isolationist, second rate power we deserve to be.

 
 

Helen Keller opined, “Until the great mass of the people shall be filled with the sense of responsibility for each other’s welfare, social justice can never be attained.”

And she said that before Social Security, and welfare and national health care, and when all that shit was privatized, and YOU STILL DON’T FUCKING GET IT, DO YOU?

We tried it your way, you ignorant slut, for 150 years and failed to prevent widespread famine IN THE UNITED STATES, failed to prevent pestilience, failed to prevent wholesale crop failures, failed to prevent epidemics, FAILED FAILED FAILED!

Now shut up and let the adults run the country. Go play with your little GI Joe…

 
 

That’s Pendantry.

Pedant.

 
 

I have a PhD in Pedantry

I assume your thesis concerned how to get those things to hang precisely between the breasts.

That’s Pendantry.

Yeah, well, don’t tell his subjects because HE’S STILL EXPERIMENTING.

 
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Look, dipshit, do I need to educate you in business?

Mercedes doesn’t run the plants where they make the S-Class there. They do it in a joint venture with Brilliance. Moron. Look that up!

And the Chinese, btw, are no longer capitalists but have become perfected capitalists–they care about MONEY and GETTING WEALTHY and PROSPEROUS, nothing else!

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!
 

Sorry I meant BMW has a joint venture with Brilliance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliance_Automotive

Mercedes has a joint venture with another automaker there.

And its EXTREMELY PROFITABLE! Mercedes sales are UP 105% in China! In the USA and Europe they’re down through the floor right now.

The USA and Europe are becoming irrelevant and unable to compete because they overpay their unskilled workers.

 
 

And the Chinese, btw, are no longer capitalists but have become perfected capitalists–they care about MONEY and GETTING WEALTHY and PROSPEROUS, nothing else!

That pretty much sums up the current state of the GOP and TP, which have left classical economics far behind in the quest for profit (Adam Smith, who had kind words for progressive taxation and government regulation, would unhesitatingly be called a communist by any conservative who’d actually read enough of him to know he’d done it).

The USA and Europe are becoming irrelevant and unable to compete because they overpay their unskilled workers.

Whereas the Chinese are able to offer the world the cheapest deal because they keep their workers (and the vast bulk of their population) underpaid at the point of a gun – again, an instance of capitalism being discarded in the pursuit of profit, even at the price of state intervention, even at the price of the “freedom” conservatives claim they’re all about. It really is all about making the rich richer at any cost.

How long things stay that way depends on a lot of things. Keeping people happy by giving them the absolute minimum has been tried before by, well, just about any government or elite intent on exploiting its people in the way he advocates, and it never lasts in the long run. Eventually, people ask for more. Politely, at first. When the authorities keep shooting them in response, less so.

 
 

CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE LAUGHS has to be a parody troll. It is simply not possible that any real conservative could seriously argue that the Chinese model of state-controlled command economy is the model that the US and Europe should follow.

Not to mention the willful failure to understand the demographics involved, not to mention the idiocy of thinking it’s a good thing that America doesn’t manufacture things any more.

About the only credible part is its insistence that the poor should be kept poor so that the rich can get richer. This is obvious parody since …LAUGHS is undoubtedly living on foodstamps in its mom’s double-wide.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

It is simply not possible that any real conservative could seriously argue that the Chinese model of state-controlled command economy is the model that the US and Europe should follow.

I think we should encourage this sort of thing as much as possible. I’d like to see the Republicans run in 2010 on the following platform:

– American workers are lazy, uneducated and overpaid and they deserve to be poorer than Chinese peasants!

– China RAWKS! America SUX!

I think that’s a platform that would see the change we all want in Congress! They could even hire the (probably fake) troll as a speechwriter.

 
 

Look, dipshit, do I need to educate you in business?

Mercedes doesn’t run the plants where they make the S-Class there. They do it in a joint venture with Brilliance. Moron. Look that up!

Oh, I’m sure the penetrating insights on “business” of someone regularly engaged in trolling a humor website are bound to be enlightening, but thanks, no.

Also, Brilliance is neither in Shanghai, as you claimed, nor does it make 7 Series Beemers. In fact it only has a 12,000 unit annual capacity. About one-twelfth that of their Alabama plant. Again, just stop.

Mercedes, or rather Daimler, seems to have a plant in Beijing; again, not Shanghai, but they don’t count it as one of their “main production locations” and it also does not make S-Class cars.

After further review,
1) OMG! Teh wiki missed listing a plant that the mother company tries to downplay to the point of not really acknowledging.
2) You are still completely full of shit.

Somehow neither of those is terribly surprising.

I repeat. Please fuck back off to your swamp. Everybody here knows you have nothing of value to say.

 
 

HA! SPREAD THE BULLSHIT is fighting back this time, I see. No drive by posting of an incoherent essay stolen from the Teahadist’s Manifesto?

 
 

We tried it your way, you ignorant slut, for 150 years and failed to prevent widespread famine IN THE UNITED STATES, failed to prevent pestilience, failed to prevent wholesale crop failures, failed to prevent epidemics, FAILED FAILED FAILED!

Ahhh, the Good Old Days™

 
 

Just so you know, CONTINUE TO BE AN UNIFORMED TOOL, those “good old days” did not work out well for anyone but old-money rich white guys. I think it’s safe to assume that you are white, but not exactly an upper crust type, amirite? Feel free to live in your own ignorant hell with the rest of the booger eating, mouthbreathing rednecks, but stop trying to drag the rest of my country into it with you.

Not having the means to educate yourself or get competent health care or a living wage and decent retirement is not what the Constitution mandated. You really should read a book or something, son.

 
 

@ Whale Chowder.

You might be right, but it seems to me that pressing an argument that one doesn’t even understand is sort of a hallmark of conservative dicklords. I’ve tried to parody troll before–it’s hard to even fake being that stupid!

 
 

What all you silly liberals fail to see is that CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE JAM has just discovered a new planet, eleven times as large as Jupiter, that will give us the mountain of fresh resources needed to keep growing our global economy FOREVAR!

Not only will Hummers go back into production, but even household pets & infants will be driving them on brand-new superhighways created by GaltCo as they breathe through biotech smog-gills & enjoy their delicious Soylent Green Slurpees!

The planet Fairytale in the constellation Kiddingmyself will put the lie to your deranged dogma of “logic” & “facts” before you can say “Socialism is Teh God That Failed”!!!!!1!

 
 

, dipshit, do I need to educate you in business?

Dipshit?? That’s below the belt, fuckface.

 
 

CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE LAUGHS has to be a parody troll. It is simply not possible that any real conservative could seriously argue that the Chinese model of state-controlled command economy is the model that the US and Europe should follow.

Not to mention the willful failure to understand the demographics involved, not to mention the idiocy of thinking it’s a good thing that America doesn’t manufacture things any more.

Well, having read enough similar quotes from Ayn Rand to know what a deranged Nietzschean megalomaniac she was, and having seen the size of her cult following and the number of people who revel in her philosophy… I never think it’s a safe bet to call people like Wordspreader “parody trolls.” There are thousands of people out there who really are that crazy and crazier, to the point of being far beyond parody. If anything, I’m inclined to believe he’s sincere.

 
 

If anything, I’m inclined to believe he’s sincere.

Nah, nobody’s that stupid, right?

.

.

.

Right?

 
 

brand-new superhighways created by GaltCo

I thought Randite Libertarians were those who believe that roads build themselves.

 
 

Helen Keller opined, “Until the great mass of the people shall be filled with the sense of responsibility for each other’s welfare, social justice can never be attained.”

Someone is quoting Ms Keller’s address to the Wobblies.

 
 

Look, dipshit, do I need to educate you in business?

*looking at MBA from top business school diploma on wall*

Why, yes, why don’t you? *smirk*

 
 

And the Chinese, btw, are no longer capitalists but have become perfected capitalists

Why do you hate America, you fucking commiehippieislamofascistnazibastard?

 
 

litbrit said,
April 9, 2010 at 18:55
ugh, boot link fail. Try this.
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Bloody Hell.

LitBrit, boots like that can cause Stiff Upper Lip.
*ducks*

 
 

Spread The Worms says: eggs are the key, inthey?

 
 

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