A Big S.E. Cupp Of STFU


ABOVE: S.E. Cupp

Shorter S.E. “Essie May” Cupp, The New York Daily News
Can the Smoker in Chief really lead America in health care reform?

  • The best reason why people who don’t have health insurance should die or go bankrupt is that Obama smokes a cigarette every now and then.

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Comments: 569

 
 
 

I don’t know why you think I’m going to leave such a nice, well-appointed boat to go look at that.

 
 

I can conceive of no ‘shorter’ enticing enough to make me wade through more tripe about why healthcare reform is a bad thing. Can we just ram it down their throats and live with the whining afterwards, for fuck’s sake please?

 
 

They’ve upgraded their message.

It’s “Al Gore lives in big energy consuming house” v. 1.1

 
 

After several yrs. of satisfying schadenfreude & ha-ha (Through some of the darkest days in theses United Snakes since WWII, yet.) received from the “Look at the reactionary morans & get a good laugh” portion of the Internazz, it’s just losing its thrill for this reporter (Not to mention the slight guilt element involved: As the right devolves before our eyes, snarkery becomes laughing at the retarded, & we already have the Three Stooges.) so I’m thinking of getting going on a sort of eugenics program (Or pogrom, what’s an “r” between friends?) involving forced Chinese-style sterilization/castration of the offenders.

For starters.

And I wouldn’t get out of the lifeboat in “Lifeboat” to take a shot at those mangoes.

 
 

Well, like an idiot, I got out of the boat. But it was worth it.

As I approach my 10-year college reunion, it’s clear that I missed a few classes that would have proved helpful.

Those classes include “Leadership and Ethics” and “Ethical Theory,” offered by the Program on Ethics and Public Life at my alma mater, Cornell University.

A Republican who didn’t take an ethics class? This is my shocked face.

 
 

The only thing worse than the fact that whingenuts think that they can get away with such blatant emotional and intellectual manipulation is that they so often do.

 
 

Excuse me, but I went to a little school called CORNELL. Perhaps you’ve heard of it?

 
 

Seriously, guys, Cornell. I mean helloooooooooooo.

What? Yes, I did really really like that Lisa Loeb video for Stay. Why do you ask?

 
 

I too, like an idiot, got out of the boat. Also. Arggghhhh.

With President Obama making his final push for health care reform, I ask you to consider the following “If, Then” theorem: If our health is the President’s business, then the President’s health should be our business.

OMFG. Yeah, that makes sense because ARGLEBLART HARUMPH!

So let’s consider the following arguments:

* The President’s push for health care is disingenuous.

Well, I guess she’s right – after that fantastic “if, Then” nonsense, I can see that she really does know what disingenuous means.

 
 

Ms. Cupp’s Wikipedia entry contains a plethora of LOLs.

She is a classically trained ballet dancer and over a period of ten years danced with the Ellicott City Ballet, Washington Ballet, and Boston Ballet. She also enjoys fishing and target shooting, and follows NASCAR.

Her biggest turn-off is mean people.

 
 

FYWP. fuckin blockquote

 
 

Well, now you’ve just killed my harmless infatuation with Lisa Loeb. Thanks a lot.

 
 

“Harmless” and “Lisa Loeb” do not belong in the same sentence.

 
 

Gawddamn, you mean bastards, today is Lisa Loeb’s 42nd birthday & you’re all abusing her.

I bet Lisa doesn’t even wear glasses like that any more.

 
 

I bet Lisa doesn’t even wear glasses like that any more.

I’m sure she’s moved on to trifocals.

 
 

Did she get paid the write that nonsense?

 
The Tragically Flip
 

This is some Megan McArdle level of creative stupid:

With President Obama making his final push for health care reform, I ask you to consider the following “If, Then” theorem: If our health is the President’s business, then the President’s health should be our business.

It’s like one of the better episodes of the Simpsons where some really clever people worked hard to come up with amazing ways for Homer to be stupid.

 
 

If our health is the President’s business, then the President’s health should be our business.

That would be like saying “I see what I eat” is the same as “I eat what I see.”

 
 

This douchebag couldn’t think her way out of a paper bag. It’s like someone said, “Who could we get, to say the same kinds of stupid shit that Bill Krystal says, only about social/political issues, but not BIll Krystal, because he always looks like he shit his pants when he gets to the part he really likes? I know, let’s find a reasonably attractive woman, who’s had a frontal lobotomy! Yeah, that’s it!”, and then they bigged this bag.

 
 

That’s the best this coyote-arm simpleton can come up with? Cornell? I am thoroughly impressed with the broadening extent of stupid emanating from the Wurlitzer. Dammit.

 
 

Having just finished the required time keeping policy quiz for work, I ask ms. F(ail) Cupp about the following “If, then” theorum:

If my supervisor is responsible for signing off on my time sheet, then I’m responsible for signing off on my supervisors time sheet.

I think not.

I’ll also guess that Ms. D(umb) Cupp failed her math course (along with missing her ethics courses), as her grasp of theorum’s meaning is not quite correct. She’s making an assertion, for which she fails to offer proof, akin to stating an axiom.

 
 

Christ on a crutch. How did this incoherent drivel ever get published? Did Pastor Swank get a job at the Daily News as copy editor?

 
Nosfer-Blart-Two
 

oh Moon Dragon, when you speak Boolean, I get all oogy inside.

 
 

The best reason why people who don’t have health insurance should die or go bankrupt is that Obama smokes a cigarette every now and then SE Cupps is a fascist whore.

Fixediddlydeedee!

 
 

Did Pastor Swank get a job at the Daily News as copy editor?

Actually, the News is down-written to the subway class. Believe it or not, it’s the *liberal* paper in town, and it’s published by Mort Zuckerman, who also owns US News and World Report.

Which speaks volumes about the daily news situation in this bluest of cities.

 
 

This is some Megan McArdle level of creative stupid:

Ahem.

If S.E. Cupp is so concerned about what a powerful black man is putting in his mouth, then we should be concerned with what powerful black men are putting in S.E. Cupp’s mouth.

 
Ted the Slacker
 

The “‘If, Then’ theorem” is not what S E thinks it is.

Not the first time she’s been way out of her depth.

 
 

Not the first time she’s been way out of her depth.

Dude, she’d be in over her head in a puddle.

 
 

Since I am now so filled with hate and jealousy of you folks that were smart enough to stay in the boat, I’m going to flog you with more of Messy Cupp’s brilliant insights:

* But the President has rights, too, and smoking isn’t illegal.

Libertarians and some conservatives will argue that the President should be able to do what he wants in private, as long as he doesn’t break any laws. Whether he refuses to buckle up in the back of his limo, throws back his body weight in bourbon every night or wolfs down three Big Macs a day, how he treats his body is arguably his business.

Umm, when you’re thinking about groups that want to allow people to indulge in what “some coservatives” call immoral hedonistic and self-destructive behaviour there’s a certain traitorous leftsist collective that comes to mind. In fact the only reason you excluded lie-berals from your list is because you’re fixated on this secret social-jism plot of leftsist leftsism. The one where Health Care is a trojan horse for unfettered gubmint intrusion into your life (see Reagan and Medicare). You know what Cupp of Tea-bagging? It ain’t the lie-beral leftsist that are making that argument, it’s you:

The recent revelation that Obama still sneaks a cigarette now and then, contributing to an industry that costs us more than $167 billion a year in lost productivity and health care, and gambling with a substance that kills more Americans every year than anything else, means that the issue deserves a healthy debate (pun intended).

 
 

Excuse me, but I went to a little school called CORNELL. Perhaps you’ve heard of it?

Andy Bernard went there, too, also. It’s not that impressive. Just wait until I throw your cell phone in the ceiling, SE, and start calling you.

 
 

You know, I’m willing to cut yer average Jethro bin Toofless some slack when they get the happy, made-a-poopy face for coming up with this sort of fallacious “if X is Y then Y is X” bullshit, but if you actually went to school you have no fucking excuse.

 
 

The mangoes got me — that picture made me want to see her prose.

The only thing I know for sure is that we need health care reform, but this isn’t the answer.

IOW, the only thing SECUPP knows, is that we need heath care reform, but only when the Republicans are in power because they know how to get sh*t done; e.g. Iraq, GWOT, sauna rendezvouses.

 
 

That would be like saying “I see what I eat” is the same as “I eat what I see.” and you can see that shit in the lamentable The Road….

 
 

That may be the first time I’ve ever seen someone who actually looked worse in Hot Librarian Glasses…

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Oh, S.E. Cupp. Every time I hear about you (which is, thankfully, not often), I re-think my ethics and contemplate becoming a Republican spokesbrunette. I can definitely pull off Lisa Loeb better than she can.

Also, does her name sound like a pr0n star’s to anyone else? I can’t decide if it’s because “Cupp” reminds me of boobs or of “2 Girls, 1 Cup.”

 
 

Cupp picks up arrow of causality, shoots self

 
 

I re-think my ethics and contemplate becoming a Republican spokesbrunette.

But, remember, as C.U.P.P says, you have to take a class AT CORNELL to learn ethics. Those things aren’t some innate qualities like say, hate and contempt, you must learn ethics. Applying them is another story impossible.

H/T to Ted the Slacker for his hilarious link.

 
 

So does this mean that there wasn’t really an Iraq War if Bush Jr. didn’t personally lead the ground troops into Baghdad?

 
 

I hope she gets her own show or runs for office – Tina Fey needs a new role!

 
Spengler Dampniche remembered his nym
 

I saw her video! A three-way with vomit and feces, if I remember correctly. Two chicks, one Cupp.

Strange she’d be talking about health.

 
 

OT: SE Cupp’s writings make me angry, this makes me sad.

 
 

Comment thread at TtS’ link has a discussion over the meaning of the word stay. Coincedence or further proof that Obama wants to sleep with your sister?

 
 

Gawddamn, you mean bastards, today is Lisa Loeb’s 42nd birthday & you’re all abusing her.

No, I’m not. But I would if she asked!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

But, remember, as C.U.P.P says, you have to take a class AT CORNELL to learn ethics.

Oh, never mind, then. I’m clearly far dumber than Cupp, and could never, ever go to Cornell.

 
 

Excuse me, but I went to a little school called CORNELL. Perhaps you’ve heard of it?

More likely, you went to Ithaca State and snuck in thru the backdoor, Cuppies.

 
 

Also, does her name sound like a pr0n star’s to anyone else?

I hear her name and I keep thinking “sippy”…

 
 

Obama smokes cigarettes. Obama admits it’s wrong to do, and unhealthy. Obama has been given advice by his doctors to quit. Obama admits he’s 95 percent of the way there.

Bush was a dry drunk. Bush claims, despite some evidence to the contrary, he hasn’t had a drink in twenty years. Bush credits Jesus with his recovery.

Now, tell me, Sippy…who’s more deluded? The guy who admits he struggles with his addiction or the guy who claims the Lord took it away?

Ask me, it ain’t the Christian-guy. So where the FUCK were you, Ivy Leaguer, when the scion of Austin was struggling with the Presidenting?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Also, does her name sound like a pr0n star’s to anyone else?

I hear her name and I keep thinking “sippy”…

Yeah, me too. It’s a weird name and I don’t like it.

 
 

Yeah, me too. It’s a weird name and I don’t like it.

It could just be the kindergarten-level quality of her thoughts, however.

 
 

See, I’m certain that at some point those classes would have covered the issue I’ve been grappling with recently, in which case I’d be able to tell you what Plato and Aristotle said about it. Maimonides and Thomas Aquinas, too. I bet you Hobbes and Locke have really super advice on this one. And you just know Ayn Rand would be all over it.

Your search – site:arts.cornell.edu “ayn rand” – did not match any documents.

Ho ho, shorten the URL somewhat and you get hits. From the college newspaper in 1964.

Ayn Rand is not a philosopher.

 
 

Comment thread at TtS’ link has a discussion over the meaning of the word stay.

Further proof that you read what you want not what’s on the page.

 
 

I bet you Hobbes and Locke have really super advice on this one.

What about Calvin and Hobbes?

 
 

The video for Stay was directed by Ethan Hawke. Avery Brooks played A Man Called Hawk – a black dude in Washington D.C. Coincedence or more proof of the soshul337s conspiracy to capture our souls with their picture making devices?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Shit. Now that damn song is in my head.

I bet you Hobbes and Locke have really super advice on this one.

“Really super”? Did she really write that???! “OMG you guys, Hobbes and Locke are rilly, rilly super!” Embarrassing.

 
 

The video for Stay was directed by Ethan Hawke.

In fairness to Hawke, Loeb corralled him in the elevator of the apartment building they both lived in and forced him to submit to a blow job under threat she’d tell Uma Thurman he raped her take her demo to a producer.

 
 

Further proof that you read what you want not what’s on the page.
I see what you did there.

You say I only read what I want to.
You say I yell PENIS all the time so.
And I thought what I felt was simple,
and I thought everyone loves SCHLONG,
and now that I am leaving,
now I know that I did something wrong ’cause I missed the boat.
Yeah yeah, I missed Trusting The Shorter™

And you say.
Stay – in the boat you dummy.

 
 

R U OK DKW?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I’m thinking of getting going on a sort of eugenics program (Or pogrom, what’s an “r” between friends?) involving forced Chinese-style sterilization/castration of the offenders.

In some cases, I think the gene pool can be chlorinated… in this case, I’d have to admit that I’d like to try it- FOR SCIENCE!!!

OK, I’ll cop to it, I’m just a sucker for the nerdlicious look, and that silky auburn hair doesn’t hurt at all.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Loeb corralled him in the elevator of the apartment building they both lived in and forced him to submit to a blow job under threat she’d tell Uma Thurman he raped her take her demo to a producer.

What? Really? God, Ethan Hawke is such a skeeze. I want to take back my mild crush on him from ages 14-16.

 
 

Lisa Loeb is DKW’s mom????

 
Ted the Slacker
 

Okay, the meta-snark open-goal…

S.E.’s starting ethical plane is that if person x cares about person y, then person y should care about person x. Call it the principle of reciprocity (1).

But then, her argument against HCR is that person x can’t care about person y if he doesn’t first care about himself. The principle of physician-heal-thyself (2).

So how to reconcile (1) with (2)? Oh, okay, we add a new principle, the principle of “He isn’t a private citizen anymore” (3). With this, we can hold him to a different standard. Now (2) over-rides (1), so ethical case closed.

Or not. “… the President is inviting the government into your private life in unprecedented ways. So maybe we should invite ourselves into his.” I thought we’d established (3), which nixed (1), and now she wants us to go back to (1)?

As someone once wrote, I missed a few classes that would have proved helpful. No shit.

 
 

…forced Chinese-style sterilization/castration…

With three you get eggroll.

 
 

I can definitely pull off Lisa Loeb better than she can.

Interest! VBLOG?

Also, does her name sound like a pr0n star’s to anyone else? I can’t decide if it’s because “Cupp” reminds me of boobs or of “2 Girls, 1 Cup.”

Two partial thoughts, one Cupp.

 
 

T&U,

I sort of made up the whole blowjob/rape claim thing. A little. The truth is far worse:

Loeb’s big break came when she was discovered by actor Ethan Hawke, who lived in an apartment across the street from her in New York City.[1] They met through mutual friends in the NYC theater community. Loeb gave Hawke the Juan Patiño-produced version of “Stay (I Missed You)”, who in turn gave it to director Ben Stiller during the making of the 1994 film Reality Bites. Stiller subsequently decided to use the song in the film’s ending credits, and Ron Fair decided to put it on the soundtrack on RCA records.

Because, as a Noo Yawkah, we’re always bumping into people in the street who just “happen” to have a demo CD on them…

 
 

Can the Smoker in Chief really lead America in health care reform?

Can the advocate for stupid be smart?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The truth is far worse:…

Uh, yeah. The entire subtext of that paragraph is “THEY WERE FUCKING111!!11!!!”

I do have to disagree with you regarding the demo CD, however. I have 5-6 of mine on me at all times.

 
 

I have 5-6 of mine on me at all times.

I have two dozen of mine sitting in a bag by my desk, but I don’t stalk celebrities to try to get them to listen to them.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Two partial thoughts, one Cupp.

Two contrary postulates, one article.

Because, as a Noo Yawkah, we’re always bumping into people in the street who just “happen” to have a demo CD on them…

This actually happened to me in Yonkers, the girl I was sitting next to at the bar in Rory’s gave myself and the bartender CDs.

BTW, N__B, you still up for lunch?

 
Spengler Dampniche remembered his nym
 

I don’t give a damn if it’s O/T or not, because I’ve had enough mangoes to last me the next sixty years, but here’s a Facebook post from a little convo I got all tangled up in recently:

That’s why Christianity the Bible teaches is not a religion. It’s having a relationship with the One and true living God. Jesus was murdered, but then rose from the dead. No other human who has ever lived can claim this. Mohammed, Buddha, Joseph Smith, Harry Krishna, etc. are all still dead. Many wrong and bad things have been done in the name … See Moreof Christianity, but that doesn’t mean that what Jesus teaches is wrong. Just like Bob Dylan’s song speaks the truth. “You Gotta Serve Somebody” People that don’t worship Jesus, worship themselves, atheists included. There are a lot of stupid smart people out there that reject Jesus. They might be cleaver, sharp, witty, and fast thinkers, but they fail to accept the truth that they were made to worship Jesus. They did not evolve from a mutation from the mud. This is a philosophy (religion) of lies that macro evolutionists teach that still to this day cannot produce and never will produce any fossil evidence for this belief. The belief in macro evolution is a religion because it takes faith to believe in it. Well “You Gotta Serve Somebody”…think about it.

That is a real, unretouched quote from an actual human. This cat sincerely states that Christiantity is not a religion. I bring this to your collective attention because it represents the ultimate, event-horizon league mindfuck: my religion is so heavy and hardcore it transcends religion and becomes simply what IS, requiring no label.

You gotta serve somebody, apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI

Also, Harry Krishna.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I have 5-6 of mine on me at all times.

I have two dozen of mine sitting in a bag by my desk, but I don’t stalk celebrities to try to get them to listen to them.

I give mine to homeless guys. I figure they could use a little joy in their lives.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

“Harry Krishna”? I DIE!!!!!

 
Spengler Dampniche remembered his nym
 

FYWPYFSA! At least it indented the blockquotes correctly. But I HATE it when my posts are green.

 
Spengler Dampniche remembered his nym
 

I wanted gray.

 
 

“forced Chinese-style sterilization/castration of the offenders. ”

That’s health care reform we can believe in.

 
 

That’s why Christianity the Bible teaches is not a religion.

If I may, he’s right: the Christianity as espoused in the Bible bears little resemblance to any sect of Christianity now existing. Therefore, it is not a religion.

 
 

This actually happened to me in Yonkers, the girl I was sitting next to at the bar in Rory’s gave myself and the bartender CDs.

Sure that wasn’t an S and a T instead of that C?

 
 

They might be cleaver, sharp, witty, and fast thinkers…

And they make a hell of a stir-fry. See, not O/T at all – totally in line with forced Chinese-style sterilization/castration.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Wow, SDRHN, that is some heavy hash, but it’s merely a moran’s reiteration of C.S. Lewis’ “Liar, lunatic, or lord” argument, which tellingly leaves out a crucial fourth “L”, that being “legend”.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Sure that wasn’t an S and a T instead of that C?

CD, not VD!

 
 

Because, as a Noo Yawkah, we’re always bumping into people in the street who just “happen” to have a demo CD on them…

I just happen to have a demo CD, a resume, a swiss army card, a can of mace and Glenn Beck’s “Common Sense” with me at all times. The book is just for laughs when the city gets me down.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

If Daniel Boone didn’t kill a b’ar when he was three then he’s either a lunatic or a liar, and Daniel Boone obviously wasn’t a lunatic or a liar.

 
Spengler Dampniche remembered his nym
 

Okay, not to take over the thread, but here’s the same dude:

Do you know what pleases God? He’s not impressed by how much knowledge we have. He isn’t influenced by how many possessions we have. He’s not moved by our accomplishments; He is moved simply by our faith in Him.
Faith is a gift. It’s not something that has to be contrived or worked up. The scripture tells us that everyone has been given a measure … See Moreof faith, and that faith grows as we hear the Word of God. That’s why it’s so important to stay connected to a Bible-based church where you can hear the Word of God taught. That’s why it’s so important to make time every day to read and study His Word because that’s how you feed your faith. Best of all, the more you know His Word, the more you understand that He is a good God, and He rewards the people who seek after Him.

I’m a Buddhist, so my ‘god’ is actually just some cat who would be the first person to admit he died and stayed that way, except he died, so he can’t. His essential point is that we go around with heaven and hell in amongst us at all times, and if you let go of desire, you have your hands free to grasp transcendence. Paraphrasing slightly.
This Facebook peckerwood seems to think faith in God is the only requirement. Go around exerting your faith with enough force for long enough and God is all, “I’m totally psyched, high five!” and you go to heaven.

I told him Facebook and the internozzle generally are inherently profane because electrons aren’t in the Bible. He ignored me. I’m rather stung.

 
 

CD, not VD!

Sorry, man, my hearing is not so good.

 
 

That jesusdrivel is a copypasta. I used to run a livejournal religious debate group. Called “Prove Your God” and I’ve seen that exact theist dropping before.

 
 

Do you know what pleases God?

Yes.

This is another episode of SASQ

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

He’s not impressed by how much knowledge we have. He isn’t influenced by how many possessions we have. He’s not moved by our accomplishments; He is moved simply by our faith in Him.

God is an insecure little fucker, isn’t he?

 
 

God is an insecure little fucker, isn’t he?

This guy’s rant sounds like self-justification to me: I’m unsuccessful, so for God to love me, I have to lower the bar.

 
 

Keep it coming Spengler, I love that stuff. I find it humorous and scary. Don’t people listen to John Lennon anymore?

 
 

Speng,

You want to shut him down?

Just type this back at him next time he gets full of himself:

“Matthew 6”

 
 

Wait, what? That beanpole guy is a smoker? C’mon.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

God is an insecure little fucker, isn’t he?

This guy’s rant sounds like self-justification to me: I’m unsuccessful, so for God to love me, I have to lower the bar.

Evangelicals do love to make their religion all about them and their deficiencies, no?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Go around exerting your faith with enough force for long enough and God is all, “I’m totally psyched, high five!” and you go to heaven.

Feh, that’s just stolen from eastern religions in which you can force the gods to do your will.

Now, those are some really good tapas.

 
 

Evangelicals do love to make their religion all about them and their deficiencies, no?

This is why we Christians can’t have nice things.

 
 

Matthew Six, Packers zero. 2nd and 10. Twenty five or six to four. Lord!

Damn, we miss you, Richard Jeni.

 
 

Matthew Six, Packers zero. 2nd and 10. Twenty five or six to four. Lord!

Allow me:

1″Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven.
2″So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,
4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Relevant passages highlighted.

 
 

Thanks for that actor, I didn’t want to look it up. I haven’t read any of that in years. Lookks from that page that Matthew 6:5 is even better to shut him up, as it’s specifcally about “he who prays so others hear him is a shitbiscuit”.

When people ask me if I’ve read the Bible I tell em yes, but I think The Flash is better.

For Marvel geek fans, doesn’t the egotistical god the Facebook evangelical talks about remind you of the Sentry? Ultrapowered wanna be hero who is really at the core just an anger-driven power junkie?

 
 

The way I practice my Christianity is to help people first, and then when they ask why, tell them it’s who I am, and part of that is my faith.

Oddly, I’m evangelical. Go fig.

 
 

Who’s wrath?

God’s finally gotten around to the Clenis?

 
 

Actor, your blog’s name threw me off. Thought you were an A-word.

 
 

No way, Esteev. Indeed, I’m even ordained.

Nope. I figure I’m simply going to be left behind in the Rapture cuz, you know, I’m not one of these idiots that goes about wearing his faith on his sleeve.

So I go to hell. Big deal.

 
 

Oooh, I wanna play! Let’s see… OK, here goes:

IF One Girl One Sippy Cupp’s I.Q. were any lower, THEN she’d be dumber than the boat. And the mangoes.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

So I go to hell. Big deal.

It’s where all the cool people hang out.

 
 

Big deal, it’s only, like, eternity.. how long could that last?

 
 

Speaking of “no big deal,” Tom Friedman makes Cupp look positively brilliant!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Oddly, I’m evangelical. Go fig.

Well, you’re evangelical, but not Evangelical.

Plus, aren’t all you Lutherans going to hell, according to the Christaliban?

 
 

It’s where all the cool people hang out.

Someone’s been playing Dante’s Inferno.

 
 

The way I see it, if God is who I think He is, then He’s going to forgive me my sins not because I have a deathbed conversion, but because I try to live my life as a good person who does good.

And if He’s not, I don’t want anything to do with a savage bastard like that.

 
 

Plus, aren’t all you Lutherans going to hell, according to the Christaliban?

Ah, yes. The Baptists Is Bestest crew…

 
 

If you’re gonna miss heaven don’t miss it by inches.

 
 

No way, Esteev. Indeed, I’m even ordained.

Me too!

 
 

Shhhhhhhh, Subby…the first rule of the Monastery is don’t talk about the Monastery!

 
 

If you’re gonna miss heaven don’t miss it by inches.

Heaven shouldn’t be harder to get into that Studio 54, and I got into that a lot.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The way I see it, if God is who I think He is, then He’s going to forgive me my sins not because I have a deathbed conversion, but because I try to live my life as a good person who does good.

And if He’s not, I don’t want anything to do with a savage bastard like that.

When I was a believer, that was my stance on it, too.

 
 

Anyone like the Gorillaz? The last two songs on the album Demon Days are, like, the bestest. (The new album has grown on me after a few listens)

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Me too!

The Church of the Dancing .GIF!

 
 

Wheee, religious conversations.

I’m just going to sit over here in the corner and be all Discordian.

Oh, and BTW, “Lisa Loeb? I thought she was Courtney Hole!”

 
 

I thought she was Courtney Hole!

Her uglier sister, Ass.

 
 

No, she’s from Pearl Hole.

 
 

“That is a real, unretouched quote from an actual human. This cat sincerely states that Christiantity is not a religion.”

Makes sense to me. The function of any ideology is to be invisible to it’s adherents. It’s the lure to sleep and dream, to become unconscious once again because this business of being conscious is hard. Better to fall asleep and believe with all your heart that you have the Truth on your side. Some atheists are like that too. We all have this tendency.

 
 

The great irony for me will be when all these “holy rollers” get to heaven and find out there’s no smoking and no guns allowed.

 
 

here’s no smoking and no guns allowed.

“Boo” this man!!!

 
 

You here cause of marijuana????

 
 

Better to fall asleep and believe with all your heart that you have the Truth on your side.

Well put, noen. No wonder I have trouble sleeping…

 
 

Sooooo Christianity is not a religion because it’s a really effective religion?

Unfortunatey your argument isn’t what the CopyPasta was making, she was saying “my belief is not a religion because the Magic Jesus is Real and My Secret Best Friend, not a religion. Cuz I said.”

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I’m just going to sit over here in the corner and be all Discordian.

Well, mon pere, here’s a little hymn for you.

Kallisti!

 
 

Better to fall asleep and believe with all your heart that you have the Truth on your side.

Well put, noen. No wonder I have trouble sleeping…

YOU SLEEP WITH THE TRUTH?????

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! And here I had the hots for you!

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 

And here I had the hots for you!

*HARUMPH* I mean, in a totally non-sexual brotherly way, like Eric Massa….

 
 

Back to you, Doctor F.

 
 

like Eric Massa….

I think that may be worse.

 
 

Oh, come ON! Who among us hasn’t gotten into a tickle fight on a big metal tube full of seamen???

 
 

BTW, N__B, you still up for lunch?

The meeting was over in twenty minutes and I’ve been bck in the city for an hour and a half. Next time…

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

No worries, old chum- what area of the Y-O did you visit?

I’m guessing the vicinity of the old power plant, by the marina.

 
 

@actor — No comment

 
 

So how about them Bears, eh?

 
 

Yes, the Bears = great. And I will have a rare burger for lunch… phew that was close.

 
 

If you sleep with the Truth you might wake up with Plato, Aristotle, Maimonides and Thomas Aquinas. Those chicks from Cornell get all the guys.

 
 

I’m a Buddhist, so my ‘god’ is actually just some cat who would be the first person to admit he died and stayed that way, except he died, so he can’t. His essential point is that we go around with heaven and hell in amongst us at all times

“Which way I fly is Hell; myself am Hell;
And in the lowest deep a lower deep Still threat’ning to devour me opens wide,
To which the Hell I suffer seems a Heav’n”

Dude knew himself well.

No worries, old chum- what area of the Y-O did you visit?

Warburton, near the Philipse Manor Hosue

 
 

And I will have a rare burger for lunch

I’m going to hunt my own steer, kill it and eat it while sitting in a loincloth.

Ohwhatagiveaway!

 
 

I’m going to hunt my own steer, kill it and eat it

Okay.

while sitting in a loincloth.

Sounds kinda girly.

 
 

while sitting in a loincloth.

Sounds kinda girly.

A loincloth made of….ummmm….barbed wire! Yea! Manly nuff fer ya???

 
 

barbed wire

Great. Film. Evar.

 
 

Anyone like the Gorillaz? The last two songs on the album Demon Days are, like, the bestest. (The new album has grown on me after a few listens)

I’m buying Plastic Beach today. Both the songs I’ve heard off of it are really good.

 
 

“Sounds kinda girly.”

And teh ghey.

He saves a bundle on the company uniform.

 
 

He saves a bundle on the company uniform.

And then spends it on treating unfortunate lye burns.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’m going to hunt my own steer, kill it and eat it while sitting in a loincloth.

Then you’re going to get your ass kicked by a cattle rancher, and you’re going to write a check for 150 bucks.

Unless ball-less cattle have started appearing in the wild and I was unaware of it.

 
 

I’m buying Plastic Beach today. Both the songs I’ve heard off of it are really good.

Do it. Of the 16 tracks, 15 are great.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Due to state budget constraints, Phillipse Manor Hall may be closed to the public- another strike against GOP policies that are now killing the past as well as the future.

 
 

Unless ball-less cattle have started appearing in the wild and I was unaware of it.

Why should cattle have something I lost a long time ago?????

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Then you’re going to get your ass kicked by a cattle rancher, and you’re going to write a check for 150 bucks.

150 bucks for a whole steer? I’ll take my chances with the cattle rancher for that kind of offer!

Do it. Of the 16 tracks, 15 are great.

The 16th track contains subliminal messages which will convince you to join a cult and work in an animation-studio sweatshop for a bowl of thin gruel a day.

 
 

“I’m buying Plastic Beach today. Both the songs I’ve heard off of it are really good.”

I like their Stylo video. I mostly like the Gorillaz for the artistic style. The music is ok, but just love the art direction.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Unless ball-less cattle have started appearing in the wild and I was unaware of it.

Why should cattle have something I lost a long time ago?????

And really, the ones who do get to keep their balls don’t get to do anything fun with them anyway.

 
 

The 16th track contains subliminal messages which will convince you to join a cult and work in an animation-studio sweatshop for a bowl of thin gruel a day.

That one is my favorite. Good thing the sweatshop has WiFi!

 
 

Anyone mouse-over the picture of SE Cupp? Perfect.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Then you’re going to get your ass kicked by a cattle rancher, and you’re going to write a check for 150 bucks.

150 bucks for a whole steer? I’ll take my chances with the cattle rancher for that kind of offer!

Roughly, yeah. Obviously, it would be on the hoof and it would depend on the weight. It’s not a particularly good time to be a cattle farmer right now.

/ag nerd/foodie

 
 

“Dude, she’d be in over her head in a puddle.”

Methinks Sippy Cupp would get vertigo in a sewer.

 
 

Methinks Sippy Cupp would get vertigo in a sewer.

She’s lived such a cloistered life, she gets agoraphobia in her shower.

 
 

the scion of Austin

No, no, no.

Bush is from Midland and Houston. He and Austin have always been mutually unsympathetic.

 
Clever Pseudonym
 

She wishes she’d taken those classes while at CORNELL? They’re called books, honey. If you want to learn about something, go buy some or check them out at the library. The one thing I’ve consistently noticed from the likes of people who must constantly name-drop the Big Important School they graduated from is that most of them go on to become intellectually incurious know-it-alls once they leave.

 
 

agoraphobia

Fear of marketplaces?

 
 

They’re called books, honey. If you want to learn about something, go buy some
Good little corporatist.

check them out at the library.
SOCIALIST!

 
 

She’s lived such a cloistered life, she gets agoraphobia in her shower.

As a conservative, she gets algore-ophobia all the time.

 
 

That is a real, unretouched quote from an actual human.

Objection! Speculation.

 
 

That would be like saying “I see what I eat” is the same as “I eat what I see.”

And no one’s made the obvious K-Lo/Jonah joke yet? You’re slipping, people.

 
 

Praising Rand already marks her as an intellectual dust-mite. Mentioning Rand in the same breath as Aquinas, Hobbes & Locke?

Yeah, I’ll stay on the boat – I hear that the shards from a broken monitor can really hurt your fist.

 
 

BTW, Psalm 137:9 is also illuminative.

 
 

Yeah, I’ll stay on the boat – I hear that the shards from a broken monitor can really hurt your fist.

I can attest to that. Also, don’t bite the monitor, its electrified.

 
 

Speaking of Gorillaz, any suggestions on how to work past the A-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAH part at the end?

 
 

PeeJ, how else could I read that besides literally? Amirite?

 
 

That photo looks like Caribou Barbie joined GeekSquad, and also gives blow jobs in the back of her little white VW Bug.

 
 

IF i went to Cornell THEN i’m a smarty pants.
is that how this works?

 
 

Yeppers. The Bibleous is the literal word of Gawd.

 
 

Rand of course was fanatical smoker. Her cult once developed a doctrine that you are morally obligated to smoke.

 
 

Her cult once developed a doctrine that you are morally obligated to smoke.

BUH?

I mean, Objectivists and reality and never the twain shall meet, but KEEYRIST I’d like to see the spurious logic behind that concept.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Her cult once developed a doctrine that you are morally obligated to smoke.

BUH?

I mean, Objectivists and reality and never the twain shall meet, but KEEYRIST I’d like to see the spurious logic behind that concept.

Fire tamed in man’s hand is the expression of his intellect. Or something.

 
 

Solomon Grundy wonder if Cornell’s Program on Ethics and Public Life teach about tu quoque fallacy. Obama make claim X, Cupp assert Obama’s actions inconsistent with claim X, therefore claim X false? Solomon Grundy just swamp zombie and mostly made of wood or peat or something, but this sound like bad logic.

Similar claim that Obama smoking somehow taint Obama leadership on health care make Solomon Grundy roll eyes. Paul Erd?s produce astounding output of mathematical theorems while take meth. Brainiac not wear pants, but still able to design shrink ray that work on entire city. Furthermore, little if any of healthcare reform bill have to do with smoke cigarettes, and certainly not outlaw private use of them.

 
 

Fire tamed in man’s hand is the expression of his intellect. Or something.

But I was under the impression that conservatives believed fire was a fearful master, or a dangerous servant, or a deadbeat father, or some such thing.

 
 

I’d like to see the spurious logic behind that concept.

Careful what you wish for, because your wish is my command:

Some Objectivist smokers argue as follows: smoking enhances their alertness and sense of well-being, hence enhancing their productiveness. Over the course of a life, this benefit in terms of values achieved outweighs the health effects of smoking. And in any case, the health effects of smoking are not uniform: the averages depend on various traits individuals have, on other ways in which they behave (exercise, diet, and so on), and on certain random events. So if one knew one didn’t have the physical traits likely to result in cancers, heart disease, or emphysema, and one took care to practice healthful exercise and dietary habits, one might well be able to judge that smoking was far less harmful in one’s own case than in the average case, to say nothing of the aforementioned benefits of smoking.

 
 

To put it in shorter form: Fire bad!

 
 

Fire tamed in man’s hand is the expression of his intellect. Or something.

Proof that G. Gordon Liddy was bugfuck insane.

 
 

Imagine what might happen if the towering intellect and master of logicality pictured at the top of this page read all the way down to here:
Barack Obama smokes.
Ayn Rand smokes.
Therefore…OHNOES!! But, but that’s impossible – and yet A is A!!!

 
One Of The Things That You Probably Didn't Know About The Goddamn Batman: Under His Costume, His Entire Body Is Covered With Nicotine Patches
 

Absolutely we should closely monitor and make public the President’s tobacco use, just as we did with the alcohol intake of his predecessor… oh, wait.

 
 

Barack Obama smokes.
Ayn Rand smokes.
Therefore…OHNOES!! But, but that’s impossible – and yet A is A!!!

If we live in Rapture, how come I can’t shoot bees out of my left hand?

 
 

Speaking of Gorillaz, any suggestions on how to work past the A-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAH part at the end?

Fuck if I know. If you see a spare right foot running around loose, however, I’ll trade my extra left for it.

 
 

Christ.

So you have an Objectivist rationalization there for also forging prescriptions for Adderall, since the benefit to your personal productivity outweighs statist ideas about controlled substance regulations.

Also a great excuse for cooking meth in your kitchen. “Hey, BACK OFF, I’m enhancing my PRODUCTIVITY here!” At least until it blows up and kills everyone in the house.

 
 

“Objectivist” / libertarian weirdness make the tradition of Middle Age European religious preference of Aristotelian weird philosophical discourse of objects’ inherent properties over empirical investigation seem the saner option.

Objects fall toward the Earth because they have a “falling” nature to them.

 
 

Well well! I finally get to meet an alumni!

I went to Cornell too!

The Cornell School of Agriculture Correspondence Program. I majored in “Meat Management”

It was a tough course of reading a paperback book, answering multiple choice questions such as, “Please identify the proper stamp for Grade A approved beef from the illustrations above.”

The grocery store I worked for paid for it, the promised great advances in my career did not come through though.

But I did like the reading material, giving my boss little tidbits on unnecessary information each week and getting those hand graded tests back in the mail.

I was a straight-A student so step back you rubes!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Here’s what Ayn said about it…

“I like to think of fire held in a man’s hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind–and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression.”

 
 

“I like to think of fire held in a man’s hand. Fire, a dangerous force, tamed at his fingertips. I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a spot of fire alive in his mind–and it is proper that he should have the burning point of a cigarette as his one expression.”

‘I am so uncannily brilliant that bullshit I deduce based on pictures in my head are just the same as logical arguments based on evidence. This bullshitting technique I will call Objectivism, because I think about objects a lot in romantic ways.’

 
 

I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours.

Couch farts and beer burbs?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

‘I am so uncannily brilliant that bullshit I deduce based on pictures in my head are just the same as logical arguments based on evidence. This bullshitting technique I will call Objectivism, because I think about objects a lot in romantic ways.’

Even shorter: “I like it so it’s a moral imperative to do it.”

 
 

Solomon Grundy also annoyed that Plato, Aristotle, Maimonides and Aquinas associated with Ayn Fucking Rand. Is like say “Buddha, Jesus, Guru Nanak, L. Ron Hubbard”.

 
 

I majored in “Meat Management”

INTEREST!

Website? Newsletter?

 
 

So you have an Objectivist rationalization there for any such nonsense that you’d like. It’s Objectivism, not some sort of philosophy with any kind of rigor or standards.

Phicksed.

 
 

I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking.

“Why am I alone, sitting on my couch, when I could be out raping some bitch?”

 
 

That would be like saying “I see what I eat” is the same as “I eat what I see.”

And no one’s made the obvious K-Lo/Jonah joke yet?

I need to go re-taste lunch….

 
Xecky Gilchrist
 

I am so uncannily brilliant that bullshit I deduce based on pictures in my head are just the same as logical arguments based on evidence.

That’s the best expression of Objectivism EVAR.

 
Galactic Dustbin
 

That’s why Christianity the Bible teaches is not a religion. It’s having a relationship with the One and true living God. Jesus was murdered, but then rose from the dead. No other human who has ever lived can claim this.

See the BIBLE sez it so it MUST BE TRUE!!. I mean it must be true because things are foretold in the BIBLE in the begining and the they come true later on in the book!!!11!

No other book can make this claim!!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the smoke of a cigarette, thinking.

“Why am I alone, sitting on my couch, when I could be out raping some bitch?”

I larfed.

 
 

I often wonder about the hours when a man sits alone, watching the end of his penis, thinking. I wonder what great things have come from such hours. When a man thinks, there is a stiff place alive in his mind–and it is proper that he should have the tip of his dong as his one expression.

Fiz’d for great PENIS justice.

 
 

Jesus was murdered, but then rose from the dead. No other human who has ever lived can claim this.

Any human can claim this. I can claim to have died and arisen several times from the dead just today. (And please no jokes about that French phrase, you sickos.)

The trouble is that the rest of us would have to likely prove such claims, whereas dumb people just give that one to Jesus.

 
 

“Why am I alone, sitting on my couch, when I could be out raping some bitch?”

I larfed…

Me too. And surely manly raping dude would have even more reason to enjoy his hand-fire-stick after a good raping.

 
 

And surely manly raping dude would have even more reason to enjoy his hand-fire-stick after a good raping.

It was also meant as a kick in the teeth to Ayn Rand’s rape fantasies.

 
 

Jesus was murdered, but then rose from the dead. No other human who has ever lived can claim this.

Depends entirely on how you define “dead”.

From what I understand that kind of thing happens all the time in the ER.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Me too. And surely manly raping dude would have even more reason to enjoy his hand-fire-stick after a good raping.

Hell, that’s pretty much two of the three major elements of The Fountainhead. (The other being buildings, of course).

 
 

Ayn Rand’s rape fantasies

Thank god they never seized on THAT as a “moral obligation”.

 
 

Hell, that’s pretty much two of the three major elements of The Fountainhead. (The other being shittily-designed buildings, of course).

Fiqqst for architectural justice.

 
 

Ayn Rand’s rape fantasies

Thank god they never seized on THAT as a “moral obligation”.

They didn’t? How in the hell do they reproduce, then????

 
 

How in the hell do they reproduce, then????

Asexually. They spring, full-grown, from the forehead of the current object of worship. Hence La Palin’s current lack of bangs.

 
 

Solomon Grundy make that claim too (that Solomon Grundy murdered then come back), only Solomon Grundy actually murdered, not executed on trumped-up charge of sedition, and also Solomon Grundy dead for fifty years before come back to life, not just three days (really more like two even).

Not that Solomon Grundy want to make facile comparison of self to Jesus; Solomon Grundy just sayin’.

 
 

It was also meant as a kick in the teeth to Ayn Rand’s rape fantasies.

Forcibly HTML-ized for folks who don’t read the same stuff a212 does.

 
 

only Solomon Grundy actually murdered

Cyrus Gold was murdered. Solomon Grundy was not. Jesus wins on a technicality.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

not just three days (really more like two even).

Yeah, but it was in the desert! You were just in a swamp. LAME.

 
Marion in Savannah
 

“Depends entirely on how you define ‘dead’. From what I understand that kind of thing happens all the time in the ER.”

Happened to me twice during a surgery. Does that make me Lazarus or Jesus? Or better than both of them because I “died” TWICE?

 
 

I sparked off something. I remember my information on randists and smoking like this:

After breaking with the cult Nathanial Branden did met one of a members of the “collective”. Against orders they talked, and Branden asked him half jokingly, if there was a position on smoking, the collective having a political position of anything and all being heavy smokers. The collective member said, yes it was discussed and smoking was somehow a moral thing and all good objectivists obligated to smoke.

Hazy internet memory, but still funny.

And others here better informed, did find the official statements that do turn smoking into some holy act gibing us meaning.

 
 

Does that make me Lazarus or Jesus? Or better than both of them because I “died” TWICE?

Only if you enjoy staring at a burning cigarette for hours on end plotting the liberation of the human mind.

 
 

Solomon Grundy dead for fifty years before come back to life

No wonder you were keen on acquiring a new set of trousers after your resurrection:

 
 

Forcibly HTML-ized for folks who don’t read the same stuff a212 does.

Has…has my credibility suffered that badly?

*quivering lower lip*

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

gainst orders they talked, and Branden asked him half jokingly, if there was a position on smoking, the collective having a political position of anything and all being heavy smokers.

He didn’t know they were morally obligated to smoke? Worst boytoy EVAR.

 
 

>(The other being buildings, of course).<

You mean blowing up buildings. (Once again, fire!)

 
 

*quivering lower lip*

You know who else has a lower lip that moves uncontrollably?

 
 

Has…has my credibility suffered that badly?

Yes No, of course not. Don’t you worry your pretty little bald head about a thing.

 
 

You know who else has a lower lip that moves uncontrollably?

So THAT’S whose socks I found this morning!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

>(The other being buildings, of course).<

You mean blowing up buildings. (Once again, fire!)

Oh, snap. That’s right. I totally forgot about that part.

 
 

I actually have to admit I was surprised that Ayn Rand fetishistically admired a serial killer for his, well, selfishness:

In 1928, the writer Ayn Rand began planning a novel called The Little Street, whose hero was to be based on Hickman. The novel was never finished, but Rand wrote notes for it which were published after her death in the book Journals of Ayn Rand.

Rand wanted the hero of her novel to be “A Hickman with a purpose. And without the degeneracy. It is more exact to say that the model is not Hickman, but what Hickman suggested to me.”[2]

Rand scholars Chris Matthew Sciabarra and Jennifer Burns both interpret Rand’s interest in Hickman as a sign of her early admiration of the ideas of Friedrich Nietzsche.[3][4]

Rand also expressed sympathy for Hickman, writing, “The first thing that impresses me about the case is the ferocious rage of a whole society against one man. No matter what the man did, there is always something loathsome in the ‘virtuous’ indignation and mass-hatred of the ‘majority.’… It is repulsive to see all these beings with worse sins and crimes in their own lives, virtuously condemning a criminal…”[5]

The rape fantasy wasn’t a sideshow or accident — it was a way of working in her fevered admiration for a cold-blooded insane killer. Which is of course why Reaganite types love her, and also loved to go meet Guatemalan generals ordering their assassines to break Mayan hill-dwelling infants’ heads open over rocks and on trees.

I mean, god, I too become repulsed at how people remain addicted to televised hyperfests against various criminals and murderers like on Nancy Grace or whatever, but I don’t deal with it by identifying with the murderer or pedophile or rapist. God-damn.

Fuck these god-damned assholes with their admiration of a “philosopher” apt for severely abused and abandoned 3 year olds.

This was someone who should have had all the respect accorded to L. Ron Hubbard’s stories about Xenu and the DC-10s and thetans. Instead the mother fucking god-worshipped head of the Federal fucking Reserve in turn worshipped this inane, babbling psychotic.

 
Marion in Savannah
 

“Only if you enjoy staring at a burning cigarette for hours on end plotting the liberation of the human mind.”

Oh. Well, never mind, then. I quit smoking 10 years ago.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The rape fantasy wasn’t a sideshow or accident — it was a way of working in her fevered admiration for a cold-blooded insane killer.

Oh, yeah. Aside from the fact that “objectivism” is totally fucking dumb, I would find it very, very difficult to follow such an emotionally stunted and obviously sick human with the devotion she required.

 
 

Aside from the fact that “objectivism” is totally fucking dumb

One of the good things I remember from Hitchens pre-liberation-war period was his dismissal of those who “think Objectivism is a ‘philosophy’.” At least I think it was him.

 
Lurking Canadian
 

Once again, we see the low, low, low bar that wingnut “intellectuals” are required to get over. I guarantee you that every Saturday night, in every sophomore dorm across the United States and Canada, drunk and/or stoned students have philosophical discussions with more intellectual heft to them than the linked post.

And if Ayn Rand has ever been mentioned in the syllabus of a philosophy class at Cornell…well, it wouldn’t change my opinion of Rand, but it would sure as hell change my opinion of Cornell.

 
 

Ayn Rand’s rape fantasies
Thank god they never seized on THAT as a “moral obligation”.

Rand also described a sociopathic child murderer as the best exemplar of her belief-system that she’d ever met. Have her disciples elevated that to the moral canon?

 
 

No matter what the man did, there is always something loathsome in the ‘virtuous’ indignation and mass-hatred of the ‘majority.’

Oh my fucking God…she was a sociopath!

 
 

So Ayn Rand probably had sex fantasies about Hitler because, well, is there anyone else who is more hated by a majority than Hitler?

 
 

Rand wanted the hero of her novel to be “A Hickman with a purpose.”

Evidently El Cid’s connection is faster than mine.
At least, that’s what DKW’s mom said.

 
 

>He didn’t know they were morally obligated to smoke? Worst boytoy EVAR.<

My memory is quite hazy on this. One I did read more and more (more than I should have) on the internet on the Branden-Branden-Rand triangle and it had the fascination of a train wreck.

 
 

Oh my fucking God…she was a sociopath!

The 70 page speech … is coming from inside the house!!!

 
 

Branden-Branden-Rand

You mean “Blumenthal-Weidman(Branden/Blumenthal)-Rand”?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

So Ayn Rand probably had sex fantasies about Hitler because, well, is there anyone else who is more hated by a majority than Hitler?

‘Scuse me while I go scrub my brain with a rusty Brillo pad……

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

You mean “Blumenthal-Weidman(Branden/Blumenthal)-Rand”?

Now I’m thinking of Objectivist slashfic…thanks SO MUCH.

 
 

Now I’m thinking of Objectivist slashfic…thanks SO MUCH

Not only does Jason survive, he opens a boutique in Soho specializing in pocketbooks made out of severed female heads.

 
 

Say what you might about William Edward Hickman, but I’ll be damned how Rand could suggest he didn’t have a purpose:

Hickman kidnapped Parker on December 15, 1927, by appearing at her junior high school, claiming that her father, Perry Parker, was ill, and that he wanted to see his daughter. He did not realize there were twin Parker daughters, and did not know either child’s name, but the school administrator turned one of the girls over to him.

The next day Hickman sent the first of three ransom notes to the Parker home, demanding $1,500 in $20 gold certificates.

On December 19, Parker delivered the ransom in Los Angeles but in return Hickman delivered the girl’s dismembered body. Her arms and legs had been severed and her internal organs removed.

Damn those Los Angeles police for oppressing the free market trade in little girls’ limbs and organs. If Mr. Parker didn’t like his daughter being traded at market value he shouldn’t have invested such valuable resources in his daughters’ upbringing.

 
 

>You mean “Blumenthal-Weidman(Branden/Blumenthal)-Rand”?<

Elitist. Do you think giving yourself a more nordic name is a privilege reserved to Alysa Rosenbaum?

Jewish self hate?

 
 

Damn those Los Angeles police for oppressing the free market trade in little girls’ limbs and organs.

Really? Cuz I had no problems picking up hookers on Sunset…

 
 

Conservatives love Rand because, like her, they just latch onto an inherently morally-corrupt idea and think it’s “groundbreaking” and “necessary”.

 
 

Do you think giving yourself a more nordic name is a privilege reserved to Alysa Rosenbaum?

It just seems to me that an earmark of Objectivism is to be honest in your dealings with people and not hide behind a pseudonym.

Thank god I’m not Objectivist.

 
 

Thank god I’m not Objectivist.

Actor treats objects like women, man.

 
 

Really? Cuz I had no problems picking up hookers on Sunset…

Yeah, but I think the Nanny State still requires that you put them back unless they accompany you voluntarily. And put them back whole.

 
 

Actor treats objects like women, man.

I got paid good money for that “Hump the Hummer” video. That was not pleasurable at all. No way.

OK, I mean, I did climax but I was thinking of a Mercedes when I did.

 
 

Well, I always understood objectivism as being honest to yourself; other people don’t matter.

 
 

” Also, don’t bite the monitor, its electrified.”

Lulz. Thanks esteev.

 
 

I always understood objectivism as being honest to yourself; other people don’t matter.

True. Fair enough.

Then one wonders why she got all upset about Blumen– I mean, Branden’s second wife? She excommunicated him. If other people don’t matter, then why did she go public with that anger?

 
 

Actor treats objects like women

That sort of thing can get you arrested.

 
 

thinking of a Mercedes when I did.

The Count of Monte Cristo is a great film.

 
 

Don’t ask me. My knowledge stems from snippets on the internet and having seen once fountainhead the movie.

My guess: The credo can be further reduced to: Only Rands matters.

 
 

That story can’t be true, DKW: look at the reporter’s name, and it didn’t involve peeking in someone’s window at their kitchen counters.

 
 

Thanks esteev.

My pleasure. *(manly) curtsy*

 
 

The Count of Monte Cristo is a great film.

And The Count of Mounting Crisco is a great porn film.

 
 

then why did she go public with that anger

Like a town hall meeting?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

If other people don’t matter, then why did she go public with that anger?

Because she was fucking psycho?

I think that’s pretty much the answer to any questions about her motivations, actually.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

then why did she go public with that anger

Like a town hall meeting?

Teabag Nathaniel before he teabags Barbara!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Also a great excuse for cooking meth in your kitchen. “Hey, BACK OFF, I’m enhancing my PRODUCTIVITY here!” At least until it blows up and kills everyone in the house.

Get with the program, you’re supposed to place your meth lab in a shed built under the sea.

As far as the bee-shooting hand goes, the people in the white coats are still working on it.

 
 

Crisco
And yet my second Calvin and Hobbes reference today.

You’ll pardon me if I approach this link with great trepidation.

 
 

Get with the program, you’re supposed to place your meth lab in a shed built under the sea.

I read something the other day (probably in “News Of The Weird”) about some geenyous driving around cooking meth in his passenger seat.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Ayn Rand’s rape fantasies

Worst band EVAR!

I read something the other day (probably in “News Of The Weird”) about some geenyous driving around cooking meth in his passenger seat.

The cooker was man-shaped… he thought he could buck the HOV lane rules that way.

 
 

Li’l Sssss Eeee Maybe went to Cornell? Well, this stupid shit teaches law there, so what’s that say about standards sippy mae? Maybe slippy, yessssss?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

DOH! The joke that should have occurred hours ago…

That Cupp sure is a long cool drink of water.

Of course, it’s arsenic tainted, but As=As.

 
 

That Cupp sure is a long cool drink of water.

Why’s it yeller?

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Why’s it yeller?

Because of the magic of the free market.

 
 

You’ll pardon me if I approach this link with great trepidationn

But why? Calvin and Hobbes are the bestest! I wouldn’t lead you astray, internet buddy!

 
 

2 Girls 1 SE Cupp?

 
 

Id f the s outta that cupp.

 
 

Because of the magic of the free market.

Sometimes it’s blue. And there are stick men standing a top of ’em.

 
 

Only a C cup? If it was a D cup I might be interested in her newsletter and/or website.

 
 

Id f the s outta that cupp.

So you’ll be renting the room for a century? Cuz that cupp got a lotta s in it

 
 

Id f the s outta that cupp.

Ew.

Just…. ew.

I mean, and I LIKE nerdy girls, but cripes, Cuppa looks like a less attractive Sarah Palin. Ew.

 
 

Calvin and Hobbes are the bestest! I wouldn’t lead you astray, internet buddy!

Well, cuz, it’s the Internet, and there was a Crisco reference and damned but if Calvin isn’t old enough to look at Hobbes with lust….

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Id f the s outta that cupp.

Wrongful.

 
 

Maybe if she gets it hard enuff she’ll think?

 
 

Well, cuz, it’s the Internet

What’s this Internet I keep hearing about?

 
 

The bestest thing about DKW’s link to a Daily Torygraph story… well, the second-bestest thing… well, the pre-antepenultimate thing, after

The incident echoes a similar case last week when a Polish contractor was caught on his knees with a vacuum cleaner in a hospital staff canteen.

and

Last year, Robert Stewart was placed on probation for three years after being caught trying to have sex with a bicycle.

and

In 1993, Karl Watkins, an electrician, was jailed for having sex with pavements in Redditch, Worcs.

— is the advertisement in the adjacent column, for the Telegraph Dating Service:

If you are looking for that elusive partner, the one who is still ‘out there’ and you are prepared to challenge any preconceived ideas you may already have, then you…

 
 

She ain’t even the hottest redhead on Gutfeld’s show.

 
 

To quote The Daily Mash’s take on the “Obama still smokes” stuff:

“Man With Hardest Job In World Has Occasional Fucking Cigarette If That’s OK With You”.

 
 

She ain’t even the hottest redhead on Gutfeld’s show.

Does Patti Ann Brown own a turtleneck?

 
SE Cupp (really)
 

If That’s OK With You”.

No, it’s not. If it was was OK with me, then I wouldn’t have the chance to use my CORNELL degree and WRITE this kind of pointless nonsense for a living. Duh.

Oh, and thanks edguardo. Call me. I’m desperate.

 
 

WRITE this kind of pointless nonsense for a living

Sippy? Who did you have to blow to get that gig? Ann Coulter?

 
SE Cupp (really)
 

Wouldn’t you like to know. (Coulter is huge though)

 
 

WRITE this kind of pointless nonsense for a living

Sippy? Who did you have to blow to get that gig? Ann Coulter?

Please! I have more self-respect than that.

I blew Mort Zuckerman.

 
 

Coulter is huge though

I wasn’t talking about his Adam’s Apple.

Oh wait! I get it! It was Arnold Alkon!

 
 

Sippy Cupp! Another great article, kudos on making a fool of yourself for $$.

 
SE Cupp (really)
 

Yes.

 
 

Have you seen the latest bowel movement from the brain of Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft?

http://mediamatters.org/research/201003100014?newsref=www.eschatonblog.com

First they came for the fly-fishermen, but I said nothing, for I was not a fly-fisherman, finding the activity an altogether tedious exercise in futility.

Then they came for the bass-boaters, but I said nothing for I was not a bass-boater and, let’s face it, bass-boats aren’t really boats and freshwater bass aren’t really fish.

Then they came for the surf-casters, but I said nothing for I was not a surf-caster, as surf-casting is its own punishment and those who enjoy it are probably better off in protective custody anyway.

Then they came for the Orvis® guys, but I said nothing for I was not an Orvis® guy. They’re just such a bunch of fucking rich douchenozzles.

Finally, they came for the deep-sea heroes, and there was no one left to speak for me.

And the rivers, lakes and oceans went silent.

And Jesus wept.

You know how fond he was of fishermen…

 
 

Yikes. This just got _____.

 
The Goddamn Batman Posts This YouTube Link In Memory Of Corey Haim
 

Call me. I’m desperate.

But not serious?

 
 

GDB, I think Corey was serious.

 
 

I mean it must be true because things are foretold in the BIBLE in the begining and the they come true later on in the book!!!11!

No other book can make this claim!!

I have TONS of books that tell me if I follow their helpful instructions I will get a delicious cake as a reward and VERILY IT IS ALWAYS SO.

 
 

Have you seen the latest bowel movement from the brain of Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft?

YES. I heard about that yesterday. Fucking nuts.

 
 

Poor Haim.

Just another flyspeck on the windscreen of child stardom.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Motherfuck. That was me.

Also, I blew Mort Zuckerman.

 
 

T&U, is there a sign up sheet? I can’t get you published tho.

 
 

Poor Haim.

Altho I actually cared enough to write about this poor guy’s plight today, I don’t pity him that much.

He had his shot, took it, and ended up fucking himself pretty hard. The point is, he had his shot, which is more than 99.9% of actors will ever have. It’s hard to pity him.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

T&U, is there a sign up sheet? I can’t get you published tho.

To blow Mort Zuckerman? I don’t know. Maybe you should ask his secretary.

 
 

Maybe you should ask his secretary.

Well played.

 
 

Maybe you should ask his secretary.

That email address is SECupp@iblowmortdaily.com

 
 

“I don’t pity him that much.”

Neither do I really.

Just a sad case of what happens when you get on the hard shit.

I’ll take a good whack of smack or do 10 lines of coke before I EVER got involved with prescription shit.

If you ask me, that stuff rots your brain.

And now, a word from our sponsor…PERCODAN?!?!?!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Well played.

Thanks. If there’s one thing I know how to do, it’s deflect blowjob requests.

 
 

deflect blowjob requests.

Good thing we’re not Objectivists, or else we’d have to ban you after writing a whining screed about how you are out of the movement.

 
 

If there’s one thing I know how to do

Ahem.

 
Anonymous Pescophobe
 

“Have you seen the latest bowel movement from the brain of Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft?”

Finally.

A way Obama ISN’T like Hitler. He’s even worse.

Hitler never had the nerve to come after a man’s, uh, tackle.

 
 

Does Patti Ann Brown own a turtleneck?

I certainly hope not.

 
 

PERCODAN

does wonders for your liver.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Good thing we’re not Objectivists, or else we’d have to ban you after writing a whining screed about how you are out of the movement.

“Blowjobs are the expression of one’s values, the greatest reward you can earn for the moral qualities you have achieved in your character and person, the emotional price paid by one man for the joy he receives from the virtues of another.”

Ahem.

Maybe he didn’t ask. Maybe I offered!

(Ugh. I think I just made myself sick).

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

A way Obama ISN’T like Hitler. He’s even worse.

Hitler never had the nerve to come after a man’s, uh, tackle.

OBAMMI KeEP your HANDS OFF mY POll!

 
 

Blowjobs are the expression of one’s values

I come cheap.

 
 

I need to go re-taste lunch….

I was making a fatty joke, not a shipping joke.

But since you had to go and point that out, I hope vomit ends up in your sinuses.

 
 

Also, sometimes I wish I had the scripting skills to automate posting a link to Michael Shermer’s The Unlikeliest Cult every time Rand gets brought up, but it’d be too easy for it to turn into a spambot if it wasn’t written just so.

 
 

But since you had to go and point that out, I hope vomit ends up in your sinuses.

Hey look! Brandi has a sense of humour!

I mean, it’s pathetically anemic and atrophic, but it is a sense of humour, nonetheless!

 
 

Patti Ann Browne has a twin sister who is just as hot. I went to high school with them and if I’d known Patti Ann would one day become famous I’d have made an effort to tell them apart. Also, while we were away on a religious retreat one weekend, I think she dimed me and a couple of friends out for running through the halls shouting and acting the eejits while peaking on mescaline. It would be nice to know if I’m holding a grudge against the right twin. They also have a younger sister upon whom I puked in the back of a friend’s Monte Carlo. I am not well thought of by that family.

 
 

@lawnguylander, you sound awesome. There aren’t many of us left on LI…

 
 

Also, while we were away on a religious retreat one weekend, I think she dimed me and a couple of friends out for running through the halls shouting and acting the eejits while peaking on mescaline.

I definitely joined the wrong church.

 
 

Lawnguylander, your yout reads as totally mis-spent and depraved.

Well done, sir!

 
 

Another rightie worried that Democrats will tempt them by offering to ram it down their throats “whole”.

 
 

Another rightie worried that Democrats will tempt them by offering to ram it down their throats “whole”.

o/~I’m coming down fast but I’m miles above you
Tell me tell me come on tell me the answer
and you may be a lover but you ain’t no dancer o/~

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Another rightie worried that Democrats will tempt them by offering to ram it down their throats “whole”.

“The swamp has become deeper, darker and more fetid under Madam Pelosi…”

NASTY.

 
 

Pelosi is clearly one of those characters made famous by the weirdest genres of sexually charged Japanese anime.

 
 

From a link above:

Polls taken in the last two years found that between 44 and 46 percent of Americans believe that the Earth was created in a week, somewhere between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago.

Even accounting for “who asked and what was the question” this is an astounding level of stupid in the American populace. This is why we can’t have nice things.

 
 

Yawn. “Ooh, the bad ol’ democwats are gonna FORCE their WILL on all us hewpwess citizens. Whatever wiww we do?”

Fuck ’em. They ran roughshod over us for ten years, turnabout is fair play.

 
 

This is why we can’t have nice things.

Yea, that is full metal jacket stupid.

 
 

What’s this Internet I keep hearing about?

You know that mesh thing inside your bathing suit?

 
 

Polls taken in the last two years found that between 44 and 46 percent of Americans believe that the Earth was created in a week

Which does explain the lousy workmanship and visible graffiti.

 
 

Wait — are Democrats effeminate fay wimps unworthy of the Founding Fathers’ manly Free Marketism, or are they harsh and cruel sadists continually forcing huge, long, powerful threats to freedom down unwilling Republicans’ throats?

And why are Republicans always around presenting their throats for this?

 
 

And why are Republicans always around presenting their throats for this?

Pavlovian training.

 
 

Pavlovian training

So you WERE at the lecture!

 
 

God didn’t have to deal with unions or environmental impact reports or development approving local governments, so a 6 day creation is of course feasible given the Free-Marketedness of the Bible’s pastoralist-over-agriculturalist favoring He-God.

 
 

God didn’t have to deal with unions or environmental impact reports or development approving local governments

And the free marketeers still fucked up by grabbing the apple.

 
 

God didn’t have to deal with unions or environmental impact reports or…

Plus, no installed base.

 
 

Plus, no installed base.

Really. He could have put up as many monorails as He needed! Poor planning, if you ask me.

 
 

And the free marketeers still fucked up by grabbing the apple.

Pfeh! Women can’t be free marketeers — their internal plumbing makes them inherently socialist, given that they have to think all the time about the needs of those little parasites emerging from their wombs.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Wait — are Democrats effeminate fay wimps unworthy of the Founding Fathers’ manly Free Marketism, or are they harsh and cruel sadists continually forcing huge, long, powerful threats to freedom down unwilling Republicans’ throats?

Why are you expecting Republicans to be consistent?

 
 

It would indeed have been interesting to see how monorails affected the development of Jewish tribal pastoralist behavior several thousand years ago.

Those 40 years in the desert could have been replaced by an award-winning visual map of the rail network and a few long-ride tokens.

 
 

Those 40 years in the desert could have been replaced by an award-winning visual map of the rail network and a few long-ride tokens.

The transfer at Gilead would still have been a bitch, but I’m thinking if they started out a few minutes early, they would have missed rush hour.

 
 

Those 40 years in the desert could have been replaced by an award-winning visual map of the rail network and a few long-ride tokens.

Jehovah being the sick fucker he is, it would have been 40 years of riding in circles in the monorail. The weight of the tokens alone would have killed a few camels.

 
 

“Ooh, the bad ol’ democwats are gonna FORCE their WILL on all us hewpwess citizens. Whatever wiww we do?”

Become Objectivists and enjoy it?

 
 

believe that the Earth was created in a week, somewhere between 6,000 and 10,000 years ago

it was a working vacation

 
 

The weight of the tokens alone would have killed a few camels.

Mammalrail!

 
 

The ironic dichotomy of a sector of people in this country who have no problem with a God who has to walk the earth, telling every flower when to bloom but who become rabid when you mention how it might be a nice thing if we, you know, took a margin bit of income from people who can afford it to give something vital to people who don’t have it because OMG! BIG GOVERMENT INTRUSION IN OUR FREEDUMB! is not lost on me.

 
 

Mammalrail!

MIS is going to complain about yet another monitor.

 
 

“Really. He could have put up as many monorails as He needed! Poor planning, if you ask me.”

I think it goes deeper than His lack of perspective on effective public transport as it relates to suburban sprawl.

What He supposedly did was to create a world where ordinary folks in the best Him-darned country in the world are going to have their fishing poles confiscated by the Obanazislamunists.

If that’s His idea of a perfect creation I don’t want nothin’ to do with Him.

 
 

God gave me mah pole.

 
 

Democrats will tempt them by offering to ram it down their

how long before the entire republican party fails to pass the anti-pr0n-spam filter?

 
 

Monorails? Feh. How about we build a world that doesn’t have gigantic stone plates rubbing against each other along our coastlines? Would that be too much to ask?

Or, I don’t know, a different climate system so that gigantic weather systems can’t spin up and crash into crowded cities?

I mean, come on, there are some serious design flaws here. “Intelligent Design” my ass.

 
 

Jehovah being the sick fucker he is, it would have been 40 years of riding in circles in the monorail. The weight of the tokens alone would have killed a few camels.

The lord is my ticket booth, I shall not want;
He directeth me toward shaded benches, and he leadeth me to the free weekly publication stands;
He restoreth my round-trip stamp; he leadeth me to renew my monthly pass without paying twice;
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of the uncleaned men’s urinal trough, I will fear no cooties; for he was with me, and I feared no rod nor staff inserted under the stall partition…

 
 

I mean, come on, there are some serious design flaws here. “Intelligent Design” my ass.

Aw, be fair! God probably has a drinking problem! Ever read the Old Testament? Talk about a drunk!

 
 

Become Objectivists and enjoy it?

Are you suggesting they lie back and think of Ayn Rand?

 
 

a different climate system so that gigantic weather systems can’t spin up and crash into crowded cities?

God can’t help it if all the gay secularist jazz-listening negroes assembled in New Orleans.

 
 

Sweet, sweet tag fail. I hang my head.

 
 

God can’t help it if all the gay secularist jazz-listening negroes assembled in New Orleans.

Wait, are you suggesting God created a community he couldn’t predict?

 
 

God gives poles and God gives holes
let’s all go fish to save our souls

 
 

“Intelligent Design”

the engineering review board rejects the proposed external testicular cooling system on the grounds of structural vulnerability

 
 

the engineering review board rejects the proposed external testicular cooling system on the grounds of structural vulnerability

Listen, it beat the Ballchinians from MiB2

 
 

““Intelligent Design” my ass.”

Don’t forget our poor, wretched ass-slaves: the intestinal flora.

Your lot in life is to literally be a shit factory.

It must be a lot like being a Goldberg. Or a Kagan. Or a Bush.

Or Amy Alkon. It must be why she uses so much of it in moats.

 
 

Are you suggesting they lie back and think of Ayn Rand?

Welp, I for one will never have sex again.

 
 

Wait, are you suggesting God created a community he couldn’t predict?

Oh, he could predict this Satanic assemblage, but given their free will, He could only determine to harshly punish them for their immorality, at some arbitrarily defined point in time.

Also, the whole storm system was Al Gore’s fault for making up shit about global warming just so he could distract from his big fat house.

 
 

““Ooh, the bad ol’ democwats are gonna FORCE their WILL on all us hewpwess citizens. Whatever wiww we do?”

Become Objectivists and enjoy it?”

Deep down, they always wanted it. They invited it!

 
 

Welp, I for one will never have sex again.

My work here is done.

 
 

God I just love this article:

“The attitude is when you are a creationist you are ignorant of the facts,” he said.

No shit?

Who could’ve forseen &c…

 
 

Obama: Your rhetoric says “No No No” but your eyes say “Yes yes OH GOD BABY RAM IT DOWN MY THROAT!!!”

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

(I’m late, I got out of the boat, and I’m going back to the original topic briefly — sorry)

So wait, Obama can’t lead the movement for health care reform because he occasionally smokes? In what kind of deranged mind does that thought even form, let alone make it out into speech or print? Obviously then people with other addictions or illnesses can’t take part either…? Her “points” on the topic make no sense whatsoever.

I was hoping I could find a picture of the signing ceremony for the Medicare bill with them all smoking, alas this is all I could find:

From this page:

On July 1, 1966 (the start of Medicare enrollments) SSA Commissioner Bob Ball holds a press conference to announce SSA’s plans for implementing Medicare.

There’s a photo there at the press conference with the ashtrays and the guy in the background with a cigarette hanging out. So, ya know, anybody that smokes can’t ever be involved in health reform, obviously.

And following her ridiculously-bad-CORNELL!-derived logic, we should probably repeal all of Social Security too, since FDR signed the bill and he was a worthless cripple and all. OTOH, I probably shouldn’t give them any ideas.

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

Oh, and uh, PENIS!

 
 

So wait, Obama can’t lead the movement for health care reform because he occasionally smokes?

Sure! It’s just like how all the glibertarians said Bush couldn’t be a War Preznit because he dodged the draft.

 
 

So wait, Obama can’t lead the movement for health care reform because he occasionally smokes?

I took her point to be that we shouldn’t think too deeply about what she wrote because she obviously didn’t.

 
 

and bush couldn’t lead the republican party because he occasionally thinks

 
 

I’ve often wondered why so many creationists were driven to even try to justify their insanity with “facts”, given that they justify their views based upon faith.

Why not just call themselves the “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” theorists and simply deny evolution because GOD SAID SO.

 
 

Obama: Your rhetoric says “No No No” but your eyes say “Yes yes OH GOD BABY RAM IT DOWN MY THROAT!!!”

Or if you’ve seen this week’s “This Modern World”, down your feeding tentacle.

…but first, this message from the merchant caste.

 
 

Look how STIMULATED I got you guys. Almost 400 comments on my post. You’re as worked up as a bunch of Dartmouth rugby players at a strip club.

 
 

Look how STIMULATED I got you guys. Almost 400 comments on my post. You’re as worked up as a bunch of Dartmouth rugby players at a strip club.

There are posts here whose comments go on to infinity.

 
 

This cat sincerely states that Christiantity is not a religion. I bring this to your collective attention because it represents the ultimate, event-horizon league mindfuck: my religion is so heavy and hardcore it transcends religion and becomes simply what IS, requiring no label.

This is nothing new – the whole ‘Christianity isn’t a religion, its a revelation’ spiel has been around forever. Being smug about one’s distaste for religion is perhaps the only thing that rivals faith-based assertions in inanity.

As a teen, I used to argue with my father-a pastor-about how every aspect of the Trinity has some parallel in other religions, i.e. Egyptian creation myths. I used to think this was some sort of checkmate. I’ve not warmed to religion, but I’ve certainly cooled on this sort of brusque bullshit.

 
 

Your post? No one even’s thinking of you anymore, S. E., let alone making comments about your inane item.

As proved by your sad attempt to bring the focus back to yourself.

Sip on THIS for a while!

 
 

Smellz like Center Left Gerbil in here.

 
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100311/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_chile_earthquake

“Chile has a rainy-day fund of about $11 billion in liquid investments abroad, and more than $3.5 billion of the damaged property is insured — nearly all of it reinsured abroad, said Raul Rivera, president of the Innovation Forum, a Chilean economic development organization.

“Because Chile is a country where markets work and people insure themselves, all of a sudden you have the equivalent of $3.5 billion in foreign aid coming in,” he said. “When you have a country that is used to being poor and all of a sudden you have these resources, you can imagine a new president coming in and saying, ‘OK, we’re going to rebuild these towns.’ You can be creative and build them better, and become stronger.” ”

The quake has done $15 billion in damages, but is getting $3.5 billion from insurance… behold the power of the Free Markets!!!

The article is interesting… a leftist televangelist might make the point that Chile was punished for electing their surely-no-longer-fascist right wingers back into power. Its a shame that there are not many left wingers with the intellectual dishonesty required to run with that kind of meme.

How do you lose an election with 84% support?

 
 

Yeah, let me tell you about conservatives and disaster recovery…

 
 

I used to argue with my father-a pastor-about how every aspect of the Trinity has some parallel in other religions, i.e. Egyptian creation myths.

Just because earlier and larger cultures from whence Abraham, father of all 3 Middle Eastern monotheistic religions, originated had myths which resembled the later Jewish traditions doesn’t mean that God endorsed any other myths than the latter Jewish ones.

 
 

Chile has a rainy-day fund of about $11 billion in liquid investments

we have a similar rainy-day fund of liquid investments but my wife hid the key to the cabinet

 
 

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of the uncleaned men’s urinal trough, I will fear no cooties; for he was with me, and I feared no rod nor staff inserted under the stall partition…

I hear Jehovah had a really, REALLY wide stance.

 
 

This cat sincerely states that Christiantity is not a religion.

Har, that’snothing. My cat says all kinds of crazy shit all the time. I find that putting a tinfoil hat on his head helps with the conspiracy theory stuff, though.

 
 

Smellz like Center Left Gerbil in here.

Sorry, I had a bean burrito for lunch. Then I died and was buried in a casket made of garlic, egg salad, and taco meat..

 
 

I find that putting a tinfoil hat on his head helps with

getting rid of that nasty unscratched flesh you’ve been carrying around?

 
 

As proved by your sad attempt to bring the focus back to yourself.</i?

I'm still thinking about Cheapshot McSkirtlifter.

 
 

So much so that tag fail </i pretend I closed this baby right here>

 
 

and taco meat

can we get off the subject of cats for a moment?

 
 

Then I died and was buried in a casket made of garlic, egg salad, and taco meat.

Well, I guess it’s not such a bad thing that you’ve given up sex then.

 
 

Wow I leave this thread for 2 hours and BAM it esplodes!

You know that mesh thing inside your bathing suit?

Yes….?

 
 

Almost 400 comments on my post.

Child, please! You’re not even in zombie league.

 
 

How do you lose an election with 84% support?

That’s Bachelet’s approval rating. Eduardo Frei, Concertación’s candidate in the recent election, did not elicit the same excitement and support.

 
 

Then I died and was buried in a casket made of garlic, egg salad, and taco meat.

Well, I guess it’s not such a bad thing that you’ve given up sex then.

Odds are there’s a fetish web page regarding this somewhere out there.

…or if there wasn’t one ther probably is now.

Tig could have a whole fanatical following and not even know it!

 
 

Well, I guess it’s not such a bad thing that you’ve given up sex then.

That’s not what your mom said. Or something.

 
 

Why not just call themselves the “LA LA LA I CAN’T HEAR YOU” theorists and simply deny evolution because GOD SAID SO.

Wait. They don’t?

 
 

Apparently, Sippy can’t count, cuz this is comment 399

 
 

Apparently, Sippy can’t count, cuz this is comment 399

Apparently, neither can you.

 
 

I was ignoring her comment. It doesn’t count if you comment on the thread about yourself and then point out how well-discussed you are.

 
 

Fuck you I’m a dragon!

 
 

Well now you’ve gone and made it count.

NEW THREAD!

 
 

Fuck you I’m a dragon queen!

Should have seen THAT one coming, Objectibitch…

 
 

<i.Fuck you I’m a dragon!

Big fucken deal.

 
 

If you ignore all the comments about religion, sex, food, etc, there are about 16 left, but I admit those are probably mostly about her and how dumb her column was. Enjoy the warm, golden shower of adulation!

 
 

Arrrgghhh tag fail too!!! I picked a great time to double up on my glue huffing.

 
 

Enjoy the warm, golden shower of adulation!

Interest, newsletter, etc.

By the way, this has been one of the better S,N! threads in some time. Everybody take a bow.

Except for you, Esther.

 
 

Can an eyeglass wearing person really “report” on health-care reform?

 
 

Everybody take a bow.

*glancing over at Tig’s low-rider jeans*

Gimme a minute here.

 
 

OT – Anyone here read about the brand new PS Move? Apparently three years of R&D and Sony’s managed to reverse engineer the Wii-mote, plus add a big glowy zorb ball on the end of it.

Great Sony – you follow up a year of massive exclusives kick-assery with this?

 
 

I hiked them up only to my lowest chin just for you.

 
 

*glancing over at Tig’s low-rider garlic-and-catfood jeans*

Fizzed

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

OT – Anyone here read about the brand new PS Move? Apparently three years of R&D and Sony’s managed to reverse engineer the Wii-mote, plus add a big glowy zorb ball on the end of it.

Great Sony – you follow up a year of massive exclusives kick-assery with this?

The “Move” with its glowy ball nub looks like a smaller light-up version of the big “personal massager” vibrators. I’m sure that will complement some particular titles available in Japan…

I should be a game developer, this database stuff is not sexy 🙁

 
 

You know that mesh thing inside your bathing suit?

My prosthetic testicle?

 
 

My prosthetic testicle?

I can’t understand why you’d want a fake one when you’ve eaten so many real ones.

 
 

this database stuff is not sexy 🙁

Try moving your inner joins up on the backstroke.

 
 

I should be a game developer

only if you don’t like dumb things like daylight, sex, and time in your day when you aren’t writing code

game developers work a 0x005A hour week

 
 

I should be a game developer, this database stuff is not sexy 🙁

Develop a Porndex. Duh.

 
 

Try moving your inner joins up on the backstroke.

You had to bring up Mr. Small Business Owning CIA Stripper Wife douche troll, dintja?

 
 

If you ignore all the comments about religion, sex, food, etc

— Starting with Comment #2 (“wade through more tripe”).

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

Yeah, true, other than the seeming-sexiness of it, the only other advantage of game development would be that non-geeky friends and family would actually somewhat comprehend what I do when they ask my about my job.

The blank stare is kind of fun though. The ol’ fallback of the slowly-phrased “I work with computers” usually wakes them back up though. I’ve also been doing this long enough that I have an actual office and enough freedom to go running at lunch. Fuck it, databases *are* sexy!

 
 

If president Obama wants to offer inexpensive health care to all Americans, then all Americans should offer Him inexpensive health care. Huh.

 
 

I’m new here. Penis?

There’s a classic conservative/religious mindset in her thought:

1) Somebody wants to do something I don’t like
2) LOOK! Somebody involved is not a saint!
3) Tear up all proposals and install something punitive, for you people have failed to be saints. This is why we can’t have nice things!

 
 

Well there is one thing Sony’s PS Move has going for it –
Office Chair Racing!!!!

 
 

Arrrgghhh tag fail.

I read that as fag tail, and wondered “why Arrrggghh!”?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The “Move” with its glowy ball nub looks like a smaller light-up version of the big “personal massager” vibrators.

Dude. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that.

 
 

tho now I reflect upon it, Arrrgghh! is the noise people make when health care (and some other things I am too much of a Lady to speak about) is being shoved down one’s throat. Thats why God made … oh, never mind.

 
 

Thats why God made …

Ball gags?

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Bye bye, Bart!

If you want to keep your branes in your head, do NOT READ THE COMMENTS. I lasted about 15 seconds.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Thats why God made …

safe words?

 
 

There’s a classic conservative/religious mindset in her thought

Yup. Also for extra bonus points is her casting HCR as a secrit plot by the gubmint to spy on your medical records and force everyone into eating hemp and tofurkey – all while using the exact same reasoning to launch into a harrangue of Osama bin Kenyan.

Perhaps that’s meant to be the point of the thing – a subtle jab in order to demonstrate how dangerous Gubmint control of Health Care is. Problem with that interpretation – aside from still being wrong as it is an actual case of begging the question – is that she presents intruding into Obama’s personal health as no-biggie.

And also there is the very important point of PENIS.

 
 

S.E. Cupp is afraid of Virginia Woolf, also.

 
 

And also there is the very important point of PENIS.

Will you please stop pointing that thing at me? What are you, Rahm Emanuel?

 
 

PENIS

no thanks, i brought my own

 
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!
 

When my daughter was a teenager, her friends would occasionally phone with an invitation to a party or outing which she was reluctant to attend. I’d hear her say, “Let me ask my mom.” She’d cover the phone receiver and tell me about the invitation. I’d take one look at her face and ask, “Do you want to go?” She’d shake her head no. So I would give her some mom-cover. “Tell them I said no.”

My daughter would then tell her friend, “Sorry, my mom says I can’t go…yeah, you know how parents are.”

I was reminded of this while watching two House Democrats last weekend on Fox News Sunday discussing the upcoming health care reform vote. The looks on the faces of Representatives Altmire and Adler mirrored the look on my daughter’s face, as if they were being asked to go somewhere they really didn’t want to go, but had no idea how to refuse the invitation. How does a congressman tell the Speaker of the House and the president of the United States that he just doesn’t want to go to their party?

The Democrats in the House are in this pickle because the president and their leadership have decided to inflict comprehensive health care reform on an unwilling America through a process called reconciliation.

Democratic sources have said the general plan is for the House to pass the version the Senate passed last year with 60 votes. Meanwhile, negotiators in both chambers would agree to a separate package of changes to that legislation. That package would go before the Senate under reconciliation rules.

In other words, it’s not comprehensive health care reform that is going to be voted on under reconciliation rules. It’s the fix of the Senate health care bill that will be voted on and passed by a bare majority in the Senate. In a New York Post article, “Nancy’s Nutty New Rules,” Grace-Marie Turner explains the process that Speaker Pelosi has embarked on to pass comprehensive health care reform:

To use reconciliation, Pelosi must first get House members to vote for the exact bill the Senate passed in December. That is, the House would “keep the process moving” so both the House and Senate could pass a second bill to fix things members don’t like in the Senate measure.

Ms. Pelosi is asking pro-life Democrats to vote for the pro-abortion Senate bill. She is asking the progressive caucus to vote for a bill without a public option. She is asking Blue Dogs to vote for the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase, because in order for the process to “keep moving,” the House has to pass the exact same Senate bill first. Then those same House Democrats have to trust Harry Reid that the Senate will pass legislation that will address all their concerns. And they also must believe that the president will not merely sign the Senate bill into law, claim it as a major achievement, and move on to other things, like cap-and-trade. This is the party that a lot of House Democrats are leery of attending. How do they escape?

Unfortunately, congressmen don’t bring their moms with them to Washington. However, I may have discovered the next-best thing. On March 9, Rush Limbaugh interviewed Karl Rove. They discussed the prospect of health care reform passing in the House of Representatives. Mr. Rove summarized the fix the House Democrats find themselves in as Ms. Pelosi is pressures them to come to her party:

… she’s got a lot of things that she can tell people we’ll take care of you. But, on the other hand, she has a heavy lift because, at the end of the day, her argument is, if you’ve got a problem with this bill, we can take care of it in reconciliation. Well, what happens if in the Senate they somehow pass it through the House, they get the pro-lifers to say, you know, I’ll vote for a pro-abortion bill; they get the deficit hawks to vote for a bill that is broken and is going to cause huge deficits; they get the liberals who want more of a public option, and they say we’ll fix it for you in the Senate reconciliation. And what happens if the Senate Republicans can keep them from fixing things in Senate reconciliation?

My suggestion is for Senate Republicans to rescue the House Democrats (and the American people) by promising to block the Senate fix. Senator McConnell, accompanied by Senator Kyl, new Senator Brown, and perhaps even Senator McCain, should hold a press conference during which they state unequivocally that no fix to the comprehensive health care reform bill will ever make it out of the Senate, reconciliation or not. Every delaying maneuver known to man will be applied to the legislation. Having this pledge signed by all 41 Republican Senators would be a nice touch.

Now the Democrat congressmen can tell Nancy Pelosi and President Obama, “I’m sorry, I can’t vote for the bill. The Republicans won’t let me.” Then they can all get together with the mainstream media and the White House and gripe about how mean the Republicans are. Don’t worry, House Democrats. We’ll never let on how grateful you are for the cover.

 
 

Harry Krishna,
Ramen Ramen.

Woops, gotta go sign up for the newest industry.

 
 

Badgers are dance-y tonight. Prolly they’re all excited that soon they’ll be lapping up sweet, sweet conservative tears when Obama is signing the passed HCR bills.

 
 

“I can read minds and elected officials are just like my children.”

NEEDS MORE PENIS.

 
 

NEEDS MORE PENIS.

Your wish is PENIS.

 
 

NEEDS MORE PENIS.

Or at least a good ticklefight.

 
Obama Health Care Bill
 

I’m still dead, libs,. I won’t pass. Bart Stupak has over a dozen Democrats that want to kill me, and far-left libs like Kuccinuch and Jane Hamsher hate me, too.

Anybody that doesn’t have a big “O” branded on their ass hates me. So deal with it. I’m DEAD DEAD DEAD!!

 
 

Yeah yeah, we’ll be sure to bookmark it.

 
 

The porta-potty one is just mean ’cause you know nobody goes in one of those unless they’ve REALLY got to go.

 
 

The boner one was great, though.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Kuccinuch

What the hell is that? Some kind of German cake?

 
 

Here is how it will go down next week. First, the results from Virginia and North Carolina will come in, and they’ll be declared for McCain. You’ll be disappointed, but ‘no big deal, change can’t come overnight’ will be your comment. Florida will go red, and a little nervousness will creep in. The usual suspects will fall into the usual categories. As the night drags on, Ohio, Colorado, and (much to your horror) Pennsylvania will be too close to call.

My advice at this point to you will be to go to bed. You will wake up to a McCain presidency and the Great Liberal Freakout will be on.

Bookmark this, liberals, as this is exactly how it is going to go down. You will be wonder how the hell I was able to call this.

Sorry, but I just never get tired of that.

 
 

The Republicans are going to be funny when they are crying in their diapers on how unfair it was for Obama to pass health care reform, particularly when voters turn out to support the party which got it done after 70 years.

 
Obama Health Care Bill
 

Don’t the real leftists among you hate me? Remember, I’m just a giveaway to the big corporations!

 
 

That’s not we hate you.

 
 

Goddamn RSS feed needs badgers.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

The Republicans are going to be funny when they are crying in their diapers…

Please, please, please, PLEASE if I never hear about Republicans in diapers ever again in my entire miserable life, it will not be long enough.

 
Obama Health Care Bill
 

I’m just a big gift to powerful corporations. Remember what Jane Hamsher said about me? You really, really don’t want me to pass if you’re a real lib, right?

Do we need MORE money going to big, powerful health insurance corporations?

 
 

Like I said, Republicans will be crying.

On the other hand, Alan Grayson has also introduced separate legislation allowing all citizens to buy into Medicare at cost, and once the filibuster is reformed to end the Republican “supermajority” bullshit, seems likely to be a very popular bill.

I see huuuuuuuge puddles of Republican tears accumulating at the feet of Mitch McTortoise and John Orange Boner.

 
Obama Health Care Bill
 

The Grand Alliance between the patriotic liberals and Republicans will kill me in the end, along with pro-life blue dogs.

Just watch! Tick tock goes the clock until the midterms, liberals! You might not even make the March 18th deadline!!

 
Obama Healthcare Bill
 

BTW did you liberals hear what the Senate Parliamentarian said today?HMMMM? Kind of screws up your plan to ram this thing down our throats.

 
 

I don’t think anyone heard what the Senate Parliamentarian said today — all we’ve heard is what a Republican official alleged he said.

In any case, the Republican-installed Parliamentarian is contradicted by law, and, in the end, it’s up to Joe Biden, not the Parliamentarian whom Republicans installed because they didn’t like the previous one.

 
Obama Healthcare Bill
 

Joe Biden doesn’t have the sack to do JACK SHIT!

 
 

Loud, weeping, streams of tears, gnashing of teeth. It’s what Republicans will soon be having for dinner.

 
Obama Healthcare Bill
 

Even if you ram this down the throats of the American people, El Cid, Republicans will merely campaign this year to REPEAL it. And what’s more, young people will HATE being forced by law the POINT OF A GUN to buy insurance and will turn out in droves to vote for the GOP.

After all, it doesn’t take effect for five years but the taxes go into force before then. VERY unpopular.

Change is coming to Congress, baby!

 
 

Hey, hey. Whining = Votes.

 
 

…young people…will…vote for the GOP.

I’m starting to doubt the veracity of Obama Healthcare Bill.

 
 

Yep. Republicans sure are trying to hope and pray themselves into believing that the Health Care Reform soon to pass will be some hated development spurring electoral victory.

Just like the evil socialist Medicaid vaulted Republicans to power and then they repealed it the end.

 
Obama Healthcare Bill
 

Medicare was popular (EVEN THOUGH NOW ITS BANKRUPT!! BANKRUPT!!!!) it was robbing Peter to pay Paul, which is always popular for a time even though it can NEVER be sustained, just a ponzi scheme…like Bernie Maddoff…but this bill isn’t even that. No, it’s just robbing Peter AND Paul to pay Paul five years down the line. And that won’t fly.

 
 

Tears. Whining. Gnashing of teeth.

Good thing the GOP has those sexy photos of Scott Brown to keep them from feeling so lonely after HCR passes.

 
 

Do we need MORE money going to big, powerful health insurance corporations?

ya know, mr true uncompromising progressive, if all this tax money that we would be forced to give to “big, powerful health insurance corporations” buys decent health care for a few million poor children, i will not be unhappy

 
 

CBO says HCR bill to save $118 billion from the deficit, which Republicans don’t give a shit about, because they’re cowardly hypocrites. It’ll also help keep Medicare going as the huuuuge, beloved socialist single-payer government-controlled health care system it is.

Crying. Gnashing of Teeth.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

TWO throat-ramming references. Damn.

 
 

EVEN THOUGH NOW ITS

not

it was robbing Peter to pay Paul, which is always popular for a time even though it can NEVER be sustained, just a ponzi

not

 
 

All this throat-ramming talk gives me penis envy. Dammit, when will it be MY TURN to ram something down Republican throats? I know, I know: never. SIGH.

 
Obama Healthcare Bill
 

Tacitus, won’t it really piss you off, won’t it make you really MAD if the stocks of the big health insurance corporations shoot up to record highs when this passes? Won’t that REALLY piss you off to think of those fat, capitalist CEOs getting billions of dollars in your tax money?

 
 

Obama Healthcare Bill said,
March 12, 2010 at 4:49
Even if you ram this down the throats

ya see, this is the tell that Obama Healthcare Bill is a republitard. progressives who oppose the bill because it doesn’t have a public option call it a Shit Sandwich

 
 

I’m personally preparing a big, long package of celebratory feasting to RAM DOWN REPUBLICAN THROATS, given that they always seem to be standing around in a kneeling position with their mouths open.

What? I’m talking cakes and brownies and stuff.

 
 

Tacitus, won’t it really piss you off, won’t it make you really MAD if the stocks of the big health insurance corporations shoot up to record highs when this passes? Won’t that REALLY piss you off to think of those fat, capitalist CEOs getting billions of dollars in your tax money?

no

any more stupid questions?

 
 

Wailing. Gnashing of teeth. Wondering why their God has forsaken them.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Dammit, when will it be MY TURN to ram something down Republican throats? I know, I know: never.

They do make, y’know, tools for that purpose. I mean, if you’re into that sort of thing…

 
Obama Healthcare Bill
 

Aren’t you a leftist Tacitus? You hate corporations, right? you hate capitalism? Hate wealth?

 
 

Hey, you know what people who REALLY CARED about deficits might call for? Repealing the Bush tax cuts, ’cause that shit can’t be sustained no even we limit ourselves to just one dumb-ass war at a time.

 
 

I intend to save my celebratory cupcakes and brownies for Cap & Trade.

 
Obama Healthcare Bill
 

Repealing the Bush tax cuts would send the economy spiraling into a depression. You don’t raise taxes when the economy is ALREADY DECLINING, that’s Econ 101. And this economy is still currently mired in the Greater Depression (and will be through 2013 at LEAST).

 
 

They do make, y’know, tools for that purpose.

And everybody loves bacon, right? Wait, are we talking about the same thing?

 
 

Aren’t you a leftist Tacitus? You hate corporations, right? you hate capitalism? Hate wealth?

Major Idiotic Stereotype Fail

um, mr Obama Healthcare Bill, let me put it to you this way: “if you had my kind of cash you’d have more than one place to go”

(sings)

“heee’s misstra know-it-all…”

 
 

Too bad corporations are only “persons” when it comes to having the right to spend unlimited sums in elections, ’cause, this which went down on Bush Jr’s watch, while Goldman Sachs’ CEO was heading the Treasury, might otherwise seem to be significant.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’m personally preparing a big, long package of celebratory feasting to RAM DOWN REPUBLICAN THROATS, given that they always seem to be standing around in a kneeling position with their mouths open.

I’ve prepared something long, hard, and meaty for them. They should love the taste of it.

Hey, can I pack this salami with your brownies? I’ll wrap it up so it won’t make them taste like garlic.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

game developers work a 0×005A hour week

I can vouch for this from experience. Happily, I’ve now been out of that business for a long time. Loved the work, but hated hated hated the job.

 
The Truth About America
 

I swear to God if this bill is rammed through and the Republicans don’t win back either house of Congress this year, I will leave this country. Leave it. It’s over at that point. Done. Down the shitter. I’ll go somewhere else and so will all the other producers, wealth creators, and patriots.

And you can have your Socialist shit hole. We’ll LEAVE!

 
 

Actually, you very much do raise taxes on the rich and corporations during and after a Great Depression.

I mean, that is, if Econ 101 includes actual history, instead of someone’s fantasies of Randian jacking-off.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

And everybody loves bacon, right? Wait, are we talking about the same thing?

Hell, I don’t know. Some chick is blathering in my ear about “Push” for my remote learning class and it’s past my bedtime.

 
 

And you can have your Socialist shit hole.

pray tell what country could you possibly find that has less public health care than the united states?

 
 

I swear to God if this bill is rammed through and the Republicans don’t win back either house of Congress this year, I will leave this country.

If you need help with planning your move or a tiny contribution to assist you with transportation costs, we’ll be here for you.

 
 

pray tell what country could you possibly find that has less public health care than the united states?

Haiti.

 
The Truth About America
 

FDR made the Great Depression worse, El Cid. The Depression was only “Great” because of FDR’s (and Hoover’s) liberal, big tax and spend ideas.

 
The Truth About America
 

Bet you guys didn’t know Hoover was really a progressive lib! Think about it!

 
 

Hoover implemented regressive taxes and things got worse, FDR raised taxes on the wealthy, and the Great Depression ended. Interestingly enough, the Great Depression was preceded by several years of tax cuts.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’ll go somewhere else and so will all the other producers, wealth creators, and patriots.

And you can have your Socialist shit hole. We’ll LEAVE!

ORLY? Where will you go? Costa Rica (with Rush)? Australia? Somalia?

 
The Truth About America
 

I’m torn between Costa Rica and Australia, personally. Rush said the other day he’d go to Costa Rica, but Australia already speaks English and has a strong Conservative Party. And they also supported us in Iraq.

Canada is just out of the question. I’ll never move there. Basically if this thing passes and the Republicans don’t win back either house, we’re Canada now.

 
 

I’ve now been out of that business for a long time

do you still do sw development?

 
 

I’ll go somewhere else and so will all the other producers, wealth creators, and patriots.

GO NOW.

And just what have you produced? I only ask so we’ll know to miss you.

 
 

five seconds on the web

Costa Rica Offers Good-Quality Health Care

Costa Rica has universal health care, one of the best health systems in Latin America. As always with nationalized health care, expect red tape and long waits, but the quality of Costa Rica’s health care is excellent. Private health care is also available, very affordable, and high quality. Many doctors speak English and have received training in Europe, Canada, or the U.S. There are three large, private hospitals that most expatriates use: CIMA hospital in Escazú, Clinica Biblica in San José, and Clinica Católica in San José-Guadalupe.

Statistics from the World Health Organization frequently place Costa Rica in the top country rankings in the world for long life expectancy, often even ahead of Great Britain and the United States, even though the per-capita income of Costa Ricans is about one-tenth that of the U.S. and the U.K. Arguably, one reason for this is the slower pace of living in Costa Rica. And, of course, the healthy, fresh, non-preservative-laden foods found there, and the welcoming tropical climate. Costa Rica just seems to be a healthy place to live.

 
 

Health Services in Australia are universal. The Federal Government pays a large percentage of the cost of services in public hospitals. This percentage is calculated on:
1. Whether the Government subsidizes this service (based on the Medicare Benefits Schedule. Typically, 100% of in-hospital costs, and 75-85% of General Practitioner and specialist services are covered.
2. Whether the Patient is a Concession or Receives other Benefits[2]
3. Whether the Patient has crossed the threshold for further subsidised service (based on total health expenditure for the year)

 
 

If you need help with planning your move or a tiny contribution to assist you with transportation costs, we’ll be here for you.

He can just create his some wealth to pay for it.

 
 

FDR made the Great Depression worse, El Cid. The Depression was only “Great” because of FDR’s (and Hoover’s) liberal, big tax and spend ideas.

Not only wrong, but deluded. Guess all those Southerners who finally got experience a semi-developed status rather than a muddy road, hook-worm infested, no screen door having, dirty latrine suffering, caloric starvation of parents enduring, non-electrified, military base lacking, miserable crumbling sparse educational system shit-hole that Southerners lapped up, with both good old fashioned white mill workers and black laborers hanging FDR’s picture up in their houses.

Gosh, how it bugs righties how FDR got credit for launching the New Deal out of late Hoover administration programs and then went on to 4 terms of complete victory!

Hell, it took Republicans until Nixon to start undoing the New Deal! Gosh, but how FDR’s incredible, huge, respected success at RAMMING KEYNESIAN ECONOMICS DOWN RIGHT WINGERS’ THROATS was.

Wailing. Gnashing of teeth. Weeping and falling upon the ground. O why has thou forsaken us?

 
The Truth About America
 

I think New Zealand would be interesting, too.

And if enough of us moved there, we could make it what the USA used to be before the Obamanation–a God fearing, conservative, capitalist nation.

But it’s not over yet. Even if this passes and the Republicans gain one of our Houses of Congress back, I’m staying, ok?

And so are all the other conservatives.

So suck it until then!

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

I’m torn between Costa Rica and Australia

Socialist.

 
 

Yeah, someone who suggests moving to Australia or Costa Rica to avoid “socialism” are clearly either spoofs or unmanly poof-dahs unwilling to move to the free market paradises of Haiti, Somalia, or the eastern Congo.

 
 

Dammit, I have got to drink more before posting, my half-fast edits are doing me in.

 
 

Hah! Keep randomly throwing out countries, you little shit. Every last one them will be more liberal than the U.S. until you get down to Somalia-Afghanistan territory.

 
The Truth About America
 

What do Haiti, Somalia, and Congo all have in common, El Cid? What ethnicity are the people there?

Small government doesn’t do you any good if you have a culture/ethnicity that lacks a real work ethic.

 
 

I sense a TTAA fantasy where the Rs repeal HCR. That would make the derivatives market seem trivial.

 
The Truth About America
 

Ireland and Estonia are also good.

 
 

Greece is nice this time of year.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

do you still do sw development?

Yes, in a much lower-key and researchier setting – very esoteric geekery (Oregon Beer Snob’s point about non-geeks understanding what the hell you do when you write games is well taken.)

Best of all, it’s all funded by stimulus money so SUCK IT TROOFIE.

 
 

What do Haiti, Somalia, and Congo all have in common, El Cid? What ethnicity are the people there?

Gosh, I NEVER would have guessed that would be your reason for spurning those bastions of applied libertarianism.

 
 

All persons resident in Ireland are entitled to receive health care through the public health care system, which is managed by the Health Service Executive and funded by general taxation. A person may be required to pay a subsidised fee for certain health care received; this depends on income, age, illness or disability. All child health and maternity services are provided free of charge as is emergency care.

Everyone living in the country, and visitors to Ireland who hold a European Health Insurance Card, are entitled to free maintenance and treatment in public beds in Health Service Executive and voluntary hospitals. Outpatient services are also provided for free

i will gladly spam you teusday for a wingnut fantasy today

 
 

Bet you guys didn’t know Hoover was really a progressive lib! Think about it!

And he wore diapers.

 
The Truth About America
 

How about Estonia? HMMM?

They even have a flat tax!

Anyway, suck it, because this bill won’t pass (and on the rare chance that it does) Republicans win back either the House or Senate and can spook the Blue Dogs into repealing it with them!

If they can’t, America is FINISHED.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

Greece is nice this time of year.

Birthplace of democracy! And right-wingers sure do love themselves some tear gas and state collapse.

 
 

http://www.epsu.org/a/2242

The main source of health care finance are the public health insurance, accounting approximately 66% and people’s own contribution, 21% of total expenditure on health care over last years.

 
 

Why not try Latvia? It implemented lots and lots of deregulatory, anti-soshulist fee mahket reforms. It worked out great, plus they’re white.

I mean, unless you want to rule out every nation which didn’t develop due to strong social democratic protectionist interventionism because, oh, uh, they, uh, didn’t have the right small business culture or whatever bullshit.

By the way, nice work pretending to be a liberal / progressive until it came time to scream about how much you hate the n******.

 
 

How about Estonia? HMMM?

seriously?

i had to rely on an article from the univerity of tartu

Health care system in Estonia

The Health Insurance Fund covers the costs of health services required by the person in case of illness regardless of the amount of social tax paid for the person concerned. The purpose of health insurance in Estonia is to cover the costs of health services provided to insured persons, prevent and cure diseases, finance the purchase of medicinal products and medicinal technical aids, and provide the benefits for temporary incapacity for work and other benefits.

um, mr The Truth About America, what you apparantly don’t know is that every other civilized country in the world 1) requires at the very least that all of it’s citizens have health insurance, and provides government subsidies for anybody who has trouble purchasing it, and 2) no other country in the world allows health insurance companies to profit from basic health coverage

i’m afraid i’m well briefed on the subject since me wife works in the industry and delivers lectures on the subject

 
 

America is FINISHED.

Fuckin’ aye. Things have been going downhill ever since General Gage evacuated Boston.

 
 

i had to rely on an article from the univerity of tartu

Man, I love that place — it’s so easy to join!

 
 

i’m afraid i’m well briefed on the subject since me wife works in the industry and delivers lectures on the subject

Having to know something about which you’re making loud declarations is socialist tyranny and against the Constitution.

 
TruculentandUnreliable
 

i had to rely on an article from the univerity of tartu

Oh, is that where you go to learn to be a nubile lesbionic Russian chick?

 
The Tragically Flip
 

a God fearing

why is this a virtue exactly?

 
 

Perhaps tATu can be converted to the word of Tarvu and henceforth tread the path of righteousness with nubile lesbionic Russian chicks everywhere.

 
 

Will they wear tartans, and eat tartar sauce?

 
The Truth About America
 

I’ll be back here when the health care bill finally FAILS FAILS FUCKING FAILS!!!!!!

And rub it in your face then, libs.

Suck it!

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist said,
[snip]
Best of all, it’s all funded by stimulus money so SUCK IT TROOFIE.

My esoteric geeky development position isn’t funded by stimulus, but it is funded by teh EVEL SOSHULEST GUBMIT and we recently got our grant renewed for 3 more years. Hooray for the gubmit! A hearty SUCK IT TROOFIE from me too!

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Another bookmark it for the ages.

 
Oregon Beer Snob
 

It was a couple months ago now, but I’m fairly certain that I commented in one of these threads, at one of the (many) low points of the health care reform “debate,” that my only hope about it passing was that TROOFIE, a wankstain on the couch of life, said it wouldn’t.

That gave me hope because he’ll never, ever, be right about anything.

Still does.

 
 

I’ll be back here when the health care bill finally FAILS FAILS FUCKING FAILS!!!!!!

In the meantime, he’s off to write more sexy blog letters on “This is how I will go down…”

 
The Tragically Flip
 

I propose a program of socialized gay S&M prostitutes for conservatives. I doubt the US government could find a more socially constructive program to fund.

 
Saint jim, Patron Saint of Bitchslapping
 

Circa 534th!

Obama Health Care Bill said,

March 12, 2010 at 4:14

I’m still dead, libs,. I won’t pass.

Posting comments = not exactly the most convincing evidence of death I’ve ever seen.

What do Haiti, Somalia, and Congo all have in common, El Cid? What ethnicity are the people there?

I hear Albania’s a real free-market paradise too – or you could go old-school & return to the original cradle of caucasian culture, Afghanistan.

Anyway, suck it, because this bill won’t pass (and on the rare chance that it does) Republicans win back either the House or Senate and can spook the Blue Dogs into repealing it with them!

Should be a real cakewalk – because who can predict a slam-dunk like the party of Bush?

“The American people will greet us as liberators … & our Permanent Majority will rule for a thousand years!”

 
 

Okay … judging by the **scrolls up and down for fucking ever** 537 comments, a troll has crawled out from under the bridge and conned some folks (thankfully, not me today) into “answering thee, these questions threeFUCKING RETARDED.”

But no matter, ’cause I didn’t get past this:

First they came for the fly-fishermen, but I said nothing, for I was not a fly-fisherman, finding the activity an altogether tedious exercise in futility.

Then they came for the bass-boaters, but I said nothing for I was not a bass-boater and, let’s face it, bass-boats aren’t really boats and freshwater bass aren’t really fish.

Then they came for the surf-casters, but I said nothing for I was not a surf-caster, as surf-casting is its own punishment and those who enjoy it are probably better off in protective custody anyway.

Then they came for the Orvis® guys, but I said nothing for I was not an Orvis® guy. They’re just such a bunch of fucking rich douchenozzles.

Finally, they came for the deep-sea heroes, and there was no one left to speak for me.

And the rivers, lakes and oceans went silent.

And Jesus wept.

You know how fond he was of fishermen…
–pöplikid*

Bravo, sir.

Or ma’am.

Or mööse.

(* Veiled oral sex nym?)

 
 

Hey hey. What’d I miss?

 
The Truth About America
 

This bill will FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL

Hannity just pointed out if Pelosi had the votes, it would be on the floor now!

 
 

So, not much?

 
The Truth About America
 

Rahm “The Naked One” Emmanuel won’t ram this big biill through. We won’t let him!

 
 

Hannity just pointed out if Pelosi had the votes, it would be on the floor now!

Does this count as “now”?

The House Budget Committee will begin marking up the reconciliation bill on Monday, beginning the first step in the legislative process to pass reform. Democrats are still awaiting a cost estimate from the Congressional Budget Office, which could come as late as this weekend. Republicans have already planned a press availability for Friday to push back against the planned Monday markup.

Weeping. Wailing. Gnashing of teeth.

 
 

Exactly how and why will the US be “finished” if we get a bleah,” better-than-nothing” health plan?

PS: Medicare is not bankrupt. Problems are the result of criminal neglect/corruption, especially horrible during the BushII admin. Not too hard to fix, just transfer about 1/90th of 1% of the current Official (not secret) Military Budget. Problem solved.

 
The Truth About America
 

That’s right, KWIllow. It’s just a weak ass nothing bill.

that’s why patriotic liberals should join together with the Republicans to MURDER this bill!

 
The Truth About America
 

It will be a Grand Alliance, KWillow!

 
 

When Republicans are reduced to begging “patriotic liberals” to please help them defeat the signature reform issue of the Democratic party for the last generation or two, you know they’re getting ready for some major diaper wetting.

 
The Truth About America
 

It’s just a giveaway to the big, powerful, rich corporations, El Cid!

Will it make you real pissed off if you see the stock prices of the big health corporations shoot through the roof when this passes? Hmmm?

 
 

It’s just a giveaway to the big, powerful, rich corporations, El Cid!

Will it make you real pissed off if you see the stock prices of the big health corporations shoot through the roof when this passes? Hmmm?

First, if it were just a giveaway to rich corporations, Republicans would be all in favor of the legislation.

Since it isn’t, and actually represents quite a significant reform in delivering insurance to the uninsured and in regulating private insurers for everyone else, Republicans are pissing themselves watching the bill about to pass.

And if insurance company stocks go up a bit after passage, well, it’s much better than them being able to keep being able to rape their clients by denying coverage, kicking them off, and raising rates 40% here and 30% there.

But I’m willing to contribute to your diaper fund.

 
 

the stock prices of the big health corporations shoot through the roof when this passes?

is this the part where the economy is destroyed forever by the imposition of socialism?

 
 

I see Small Biznis Troll is starting to type “fuck” & address members of the commentariat by nym. Are we due for another epic meltdown?

 
 

D’you suppose diapers for the 28%ers will be covered by our shiny new health care reform plan?

Are we due for another epic meltdown?

Sadly (no) I must miss it ’cause I have, like, an actual job to do in the morning. Unlike certain under-bridge dwelling fantasy characters.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Man, there was a major power failure at work, so I missed the bulk of this thread.

If you need help with planning your move or a tiny contribution to assist you with transportation costs, we’ll be here for you.

Maybe Smut and Kiwi can contribute a trebuchet, if by air, or a ZORB, if by land.

Remember what Jane Hamsher said about me?

WOLVERINES!!!
HAMSTERS!!!
HAMSHERS!!!!

 
 

This bill will FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL

Settle down, Beavis. You’re drooling all over the remote. Uh-huh-huh.

 
 

How about Estonia? HMMM?

They even have a flat tax!

*AHEM*

Increases in labor costs, rise of taxation on tobacco, alcohol, electricity, fuel, and gas, and also external pressures (growing prices of oil and food on the global market) are expected to raise inflation just above the 10% mark in the first months of 2009. In the first quarter 2008 GDP grew only 0.1%. The government made a supplementary negative budget, which was passed by Riigikogu. The revenue of the budget was decreased for 2008 by EEK 6.1 billion and the expenditure by EEK 3.2 billion.

They also ban guns.

Oh…one other thing:

Unemployment rate:
14.3% (2009 est.)

 
 

And if enough of us moved there, we could make it what the USA used to be before the Obamanation–a God fearing, conservative, capitalist nation.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

I have lots of friends who are Kiwis. They’d lock us up in a heartbeat just for being jerks.

 
 

I wonder why wingnuts don’t flock to Somalia — it is, after all, the libertarian, small-government, no-regulation, no-tax, own-as-many-guns-as-you-want type of place they want America to become.

Oh, wait. That’s right. It’s full of brown people.

Guess they’ll have to settle for Texas.

No, wait. The Messicans.

Hmmm … well, I guess after the Census they’ll just have to get used to their little rooms in the re-education camps.

But I’ve said too much already …

 
 

But I’ve said too much already …

*GLARING*

What’s the FIRST rule of Kamp Klub????

 
 

What’s the FIRST rule of Kamp Klub????

Um … don’t talk about turning conservatives into homosexual Islamic abortion doctors who practice socialized medicine on illegal immigrants to earn carbon credits Kamp Klub?

Here — cut a corner off my Dirty Fucking Hippie Card.

::slinks away::

 
 

Here — cut a corner off my Dirty Fucking Hippie Card.

Oooh! Circumcision! *snip*

 
Rev. Johnny Coelacanth
 

Hey you guys talking about the Monastery up there? It’s like, TOTALLY fake. I just updated my ordination info with the ULC (http://www.ulchq.com/) and they told me that the folks running the monastery are a rogue outfit that’s not affiliated with the original universal life church. So what am I saying? Your fake ordinations are Xtra fake! if you got them through the Monastery.

 
 

So, I see the “STFU” post got 560+ comments here.

L0L 1NTARW3BZ!!!

 
 

Yes, Jim, but only three from Sippy Cupp, so indeed, she STFU.

 
 

True, but I suspect the three were legit.

 
 

C’mon. First and second are obvious parodies. The third isn’t funny, alas, so is likelier to be S.E. Cupp, but still…

 
 

I believe this one might be her:

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/29122.html#comment-1039448

And this one:

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/29122.html#comment-1039869

OK, I amend my statement: two were legit, IMO

 
 

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