Barstow Breakout1
Posted on February 16th, 2010 by Gavin M.
David Barstow, The New York Times:
Tea Party Lights Fuse for Rebellion on Right
- Hi, David Barstow calling, 2009 Pulitzer winner in Investigative Journalism2 for rooting out the Pentagon Pundits scandal. Uh-huh, from The Times, sure. Um, so I understand these Tea Parties represent a grass-roots uprising, but who organized and financed the original…? Oh, a spontaneous grass-roots uprising. [keys clacking] [keys clacking] [coughs, blows nose] [keys clacking] No, I’m still here. “Spontaneous grass-roots uprising,” sure. [keys clacking] [hums theme from Lion King] Hello? Yeah, I’m here. In The New York Times, sure. [repetitive keystrokes, sound effects of character screen in Street Fighter IV] [whistles ‘I Gotta Feeling’] Huh? No, I’m still here. Okay, you too, ‘bye. [repetitive keystrokes, sound effect of Zangief doing focus strike]
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Its pretty obvious that you liberals fear the Tea Party Movement because you know it will ultimately be your undoing. The Tea Party has already claimed scalps in elections in Virginia, New Jersey and Kennedy’s old seat, and it has you liberals running scared. All you have is innuendo and lies about the Tea Party because you can’t dare to have a true grassroots movement, unlike your Big Liberal Obama “movement” which was a MSM creation from the getgo.
A Sham 69 reference! WOOT!
<3 the reference, dude!
No more taxes for wars.
No more taxes for torture.
Have they stopped calling themselves teabaggers yet? Oh a fantastic lack of self awareness…
The press coverage of the Tea Party movement begins from a thoroughly false premise, that wide layers of the American population oppose the Obama administration from the right, outraged over “socialism” and “big government” and the sinister possibility of “universal health care.”
Far from a spontaneous outburst, Santelli’s appeal for a “tea party” protest was a stage-managed event, prepared well in advance and backed by wealthy, extreme right-wing forces. In any case, how could such a reactionary and selfish attack on the millions in danger of losing their homes provide the basis for a “populist” revolt in any meaningful sense of the word? The various rallies organized by the Tea Party network have been attended by a combination of ultra-right activists and highly confused, primarily middle class layers. Again, the gatherings have attracted forces largely through absurdly out-of-proportion media coverage.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/feb2010/teap-f09.shtml
I see Rick Santelli all the time, but I haven’t kicked him in the balls yet because he tends to stay on CME Group property.
As if these dumbfuck fascist wannabes would be able to spell “Federalist Papers,” let alone explore them. Hint: no matter what Glenn tells you, they don’t simply say “DemoRATS iz communists” over and over again in crayon, you stupid treasonous pigfuckers.
Hey! Watch who you’re calling Teabaggers, huh?
This is a cute bit of fantasy from a Teabagger:
Gazing out at his overwhelmingly white audience, Mr. Mack felt the need to say, “This meeting is not racist.” Nor, he said, was it a call to insurrection. What is needed, he said, is “a whole army of sheriffs” marching on Washington to deliver an unambiguous warning: “Any violation of the Constitution we will consider a criminal offense.”
The crowd roared.
Mr. Mack shared his vision of the ideal sheriff. The setting was Montgomery, Ala., on the day Rosa Parks refused to give up her bus seat for a white passenger. Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
I have no doubt this fucker would’ve been the eager to sic the dogs on Rosa Parks. Ideal sheriff, my ass.
I got out of the boat. Not recommended, by the way.
Three thoughts on this article. First, poor George Orwell must be spinning in his grave to have his name associated with these lunatics.
Second, the government is trampling “the Constitution and free enterprise” (emphasis mine)? Trampling the Constitution, yes I can see that, though the teabaggers want more trampling, not less. Free enterprise, on the other hand, seems to be doing just fine, now that they can socialize all their risks.
Third…and I’m sorry to Godwin the thread so early, but do you suppose this is how it happened in Germany, too? A fringe group of weirdo nutcases starts yelling at each other, every sane person sort of looks on half bemused and half horrified and before you know it…
And leading off the inning, from Stockton, California, it’s the Sultan of Scat, the Sahib of Spittle, the King of Confusion– Garry Alllllyyyynn DEMANTY!
I read the Barstow article this morning and thought it was pretty good. Nobody but a teabagger could read it and think that the movement is anything but a loose conglomeration of racist dead-enders. At least that was my take.
LC, in this case, I think the paranoid streak in the American right will lead to fragmentation and infighting. We have already seen this in the Teabagging convention hoo-ha. Hell, even not-Joe the not-Plumber has dropped his support for Super Sarah, the Power Palin.
Thing is, the crazy-scared old teabaggers really believe their own propaganda. They’ll swear (and mean it) that they came up with the movement and its ideas all on their lonesome and there warn’t no stage-managing a’tall.
I can sympathize, in a way. For years I had convinced myself that I’d watched live coverage of the Apollo moon landing while sitting on the floor in Mrs. Yanz’ classroom. It was probably a decade later that I finally realized the moon landing happened in the middle of fucking July and I wasn’t anywhere near a school.
‘Course, I was in second grade, so . . . there’s that.
Third…and I’m sorry to Godwin the thread so early, but do you suppose this is how it happened in Germany, too?
Yeah, if you’re worried about that, don’t read this.
It depends on how far the Republican attempts at obstruction go, and if our economy gets any worse.
Then again, they’re such ridiculous fools that I’m reluctant to think that they would even have the ability to establish a fascist state.
Uh, totally though I posted something.
Third…and I’m sorry to Godwin the thread so early, but do you suppose this is how it happened in Germany, too? A fringe group of weirdo nutcases starts yelling at each other, every sane person sort of looks on half bemused and half horrified and before you know it…
Yeah, I’m mostly bemused at this point, and I’m pretty sure that these people could barely run a Girl Scout meeting, much less a fascist state. Then again, I read shit like this and get a little worried.
And that would be “thought,” not “though.” Can I take a nap now?
Not to get all “Grammar Nazi” on you, but you do know that “bemused” means “bewildered” not “mildly amused”, right?
but you do know that “bemused” means “bewildered” not “mildly amused”, right?
I do. But using “mostly” as a modifier doesn’t make any sense. So, yeah. Nap.
Not to get all “Grammar Nazi” on you, but you do know that “bemused” means “bewildered” not “mildly amused”, right?
I guess that was directed at me. I think bewildered still works in the sentence I wrote and anyway, Webster disagrees with you, since it lists meaning #3 as:
“: to cause to have feelings of wry or tolerant amusement ”
Webster on-line may not be a reliable source, but I still think it’s a perfectly cromulent word in context.
Oh, I thought it was directed at me. I like to make everything about me.
And “cromulent” is a perfectly cromulent word.
I can’t help but think that the fire’s gone out from under their asses. At their big debutante ball in Nashville, only 600 of the fuckers managed to crawl out of bed and get charged $500 to hear Super Sarah run her mouth. That’s not the sign to me of a movement bursting with energy and life. Of course, that doesn’t mean that someone more powerful and more organized has not already co-opted their ideas and eagerly waiting to spread them all over the airwaves come votin’ season.
The real story behind the tea parties is that they don’t really exist.
I mean, seriously, we have here a media creation where a small number of ultra-racist nutjobs ginned up by astroturfing organizations have created a movement that can at their most triumphant almost attract enough people to almost equal a small regional sci-fi convention.
The National Tea Party Convention attracted 600 people total, that’s less people than are in some panels at the San Diego Comic Con. Glenn Beck spent months preparing his loyal followers of paranoid delusionals with the full support of the entire FOX network to produce the protest to swamp all protests and attracted 30,000, which is the respectable size of a regional anime convention but massively dwarfed by the anti-war protests of 2003 that were largely shrugged off, the anti-world bank protests and is roughly the same size of the regional protests of the quickly formed and genuinely organic Prop 8 protests.
This is with an entire network spending months trying to get people organized, plan out the date and the supposed intellectual leader of the “organic” movement Glenn Beck labeling it as a national day of praising his “non-partisan” vision.
How many protests or organizations numbering 600 get 100+ media personalities covering it? How many 30k protests get more than local media attention? Especially in DC where everyone plans their national events. And those national events are supposed to be big.
The National March on Washington for Gay Rights in 1993 attracted 300K people, the very recent 2009 National Equality March for LGBT rights that went largely unnoticed by anyone not named Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, Keith Olbermann, or Rachel Maddow attracted at least 200K. Neither received national media attention or promotion by media figures months in advance.
However, we’re constantly surrounded by teabaggers. They’re taking over politics, they’re real america and the only populist movement, they number in the millions and need to be reckoned with and only happen to never attract more people than Anime Expo (43,000 in 2008) because of “shut up, that’s why”.
There are no teabaggers, beyond the usual collection of white supremacists and libertarians that’ll flood out for any conservative convention to bask in the white safe spaces. They are not a real movement, they are the collective id of a puerile media buckling against the fact that time is up on growing up and doing their jobs before we’re all fucked and they’re not about to break a habit of a lifetime by interviewing the damn hippies.
So to get their “protest” “populism” fixes, they invented the teabaggers. Fell into the illusion and happily made it out as if it actually held anything close to the hold as say the LGBT movement or the anti-war movement or even the geek movement or the comic nerd movement. Because otherwise, they might have to admit that they lost. The time of news being of white men for white men might finally have reached its twilight hour and blacks and women and faggots are real people who’ll have to be spoken about on air instead of swept under the carpet.
Sorry for the long post everyone, but damnitt, there is no “tea party movement”.
That comment was directed at me, I just know. Those Grammar Nazis are out to get me, but I wiggle away like a fish in the sea!
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
…And thereby not changing one single racist, discriminatory law.
Perfect.
These people are case studies in the conscious rationalizing unconscious impulses, rather than face them for the ugliness they are.
This post is weird. Even the PFAW liked Barstow’s article http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/tea-party-and-gop . At this point, it doesn’t matter who did the initial organizing or funding of the Tea Parties, they have clearly taken on a life of their own, far beyond the control of their original corporate funders. The article notes that most of the participants in the Tea Party events were apolitical before the economic crisis and the bailouts raised their political conscience. A better point for discussion might be why aren’t these people listening to liberals/leftists? Why aren’t people outside willing to listen to them or their arguments? It maybe that most of the Tea Party’s participants aren’t in the Left’s base of support, i.e. the working class, and are more petit bourgeois/self-employeed/small business owner types, but why aren’t at least some of them attracted to the Left?
Yer “Achoo!” link doesn’t go anywhere…
[added a footnote to a Freedomworks document laying out their national tea party strategy] [and also fixed the link, thanks!]
Gazing out at his overwhelmingly white audience, Mr. Mack felt the need to say, “This meeting is not racist.” Nor, he said, was it a call to insurrection. What is needed, he said, is “a whole army of sheriffs” marching on Washington to deliver an unambiguous warning: “Any violation of the Constitution we will consider a criminal offense.”
Wheeeee, exactly the same thing these idjuts were saying along about 1993 – before someone decided on the Propaganda of The Action and killed a couple hundred people in OKC.
This will not end well.
but why aren’t at least some of them attracted to the Left?
Because they’re listening to ahistorical assclowns like Glenn “OMFG G.B. Shaw was A COMMIE!!1~” Bleccch and racist neo-militia douchebags like Mack (who I seem to recall is just recycling the same shit he served up last time we had a Democrat in the White House).
but why aren’t at least some of them attracted to the Left?
Because they’re listening to ahistorical assclowns like Glenn “OMFG G.B. Shaw was A COMMIE!!1~” Bleccch and racist neo-militia douchebags like Mack
Also, they are racists and homophobes.
Yeah, I remember being worried about that too … in 2001. If you didn’t like the Patriot Act you were called a crazy left-winger and fifth columnist, even if you were one of the handful of conservatives who had concerns (and sadly the majority of Democrats supported it).
Sorry, Mary, we’re never going to unshit that bed. But thanks for being concerned years after the fact, at a time that just happens to coincide with the nation having a black president.
Smiling Mortician: there was more than one Moon Landing, you know. Some were during school.
“poor George Orwell must be spinning in his grave to have his name associated with these lunatics.”
I imagine the teabaggers would be similarly disgusted to be associated with Orwell if they were even dimly aware of his political leanings. They think hopey the centrist is a commie so their heads would probably explode if they knew the man they love to quote was a gen-u-wine sharin’, carin’, international brigadin’ socialist.
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
And humoring whitey, at least for a moment, much like I am doing with you right now.
Also, they are racists and homophobes.
And stoopit. You can’t forget The Stoopit.
Also, they are racists and homophobes.
Yeah, I looked over that article this morning and the first thing I noticed was the lady who FOR SOME WIERD REASON had suddenly decided her government threatened her… sometime along about, oh, November 2008 or so LORD ONLY KNOWS WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
Sorry, Mary, we’re never going to unshit that bed. But thanks for being concerned years after the fact, at a time that just happens to coincide with the nation having a black president.
During the Bush years, I made it a habit of reminding authoritarian dumbfucks that power isn’t easily taken back, and that one day just MAAAAAAAYBEEEEEEE there might be someone in office they didn’t trust with all that power they were gladly ceding to Baby Bush.
Of course, being authoritarian dumbfucks, they were convinced that the Republican Revolution had been successful and they wouldn’t have to worry about that–hence all the whining and pants-pissing we see today.
In other words, they don’t give a shit about abuses of power. They just hate people they don’t like having access to any power in the first place.
I do have a question for y’all: do you think that the hysteria would be this massive if the President were essentially the same dude, only white?
Personally, I think race plays into it, but I also think that these people have been fed so much bullshit that it’s toxic and any Dem would be viewed similarly.
It’s convenient and easy to call all the Tea Partiers stupid or racist (though some most certainly are). Isn’t it more likely that they are just ignorant like most Americans about their government, the economy, etc?
Shorter wingnut-o-sphere:
A BLACK sheriff???
It’s convenient and easy to call all the Tea Partiers stupid or racist (though some most certainly are). Isn’t it more likely that they are just ignorant like most Americans about their government, the economy, etc?
These are not mutually exclusive.
I love the woman who just learned “what the Federal Reserve is.” It’s like she just woke up angry from a looong nap.
You know it isn’t entirely fair to just dismiss the tea party movement. I mean they organizedit but the rank and file are sincere. I mean, we need to adress the fact that like half the country is authoritarian dipshits. I mean how do you save that from itself.
I love the woman who just learned “what the Federal Reserve is.”
How many Americans you meet in the street know what the Federal Reserve is?
I do have a question for y’all: do you think that the hysteria would be this massive if the President were essentially the same dude, only white?
I spent the Clinton administration embedded with right wing types, so I have some idea. Yes, he would still be just as unprecedentedly commie-fascist and all-but-certain to be planning to use the Constitution as toilet paper and sodomize the corpse of General Washington.
HOWEVER, there would also be an essential and prominent racist element, even if he were white. He wouldn’t be truly threatening without it. Whether or not he actually tried to do anything to help poor people, he would be accused of selling out hard-working white taxpayers for lazy black troublemakers.
Having a president who is actually black allows an upgrade from race traitor to black racist, but the underlying appeal to emotion is the same regardless, and has racist elements at its core.
When the government prints money it’s called ‘countercyclical monetary policy’
But when I print money it’s called counterfeiting.
I guess some animals are more equal than others. Eh, comrade?
You know the economy is undergoing a sluggish recovery. This is the perfect time to go long on gold, I tell you what.
Having a president who is actually black allows an upgrade from race traitor to black racist, but the underlying appeal to emotion is the same regardless, and has racist elements at its core.
You’ve articulated my thoughts on this much better than I ever could.
How can I be racist when I’m the victim of so much reverse racism. For instance that time that kid on the bus called me a honkey. Do you know how hard that was on my self esteem. But you don’t see liberals offering me reperations.
In New Mexico, Mary Johnson, recording secretary of the Las Cruces Tea Party steering committee, described why she fears the government. She pointed out how much easier it is since Sept. 11 for the government to tap telephones and scour e-mail, bank accounts and library records.
I, um, wow. Goddamn president Clinton, eh?
How many Americans you meet in the street know what the Federal Reserve is?
Not many. But I don’t think this woman does now either.
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
When I was a little kid, I used to imagine going back in time with a machine gun to save Jesus. Then I grew up.
How many Americans you meet in the street know what the Federal Reserve is?
How many average Americans really need to know what the Fed is?
No, these people are NOT responsible citizens. They’re cherry-picking the governmental structure for “proof” of some kind of elitist plot (elitist LIBERAL plot, donchaknow, the guys who financed the Bolshevik Revolution AND every war, YOU KNOW, ahem ahem THOSE PEOPLE the GLOBAL SECRET MASTERS *nudge nudge*)
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
not too long now begore they all think this is ACTUALLY what happened, and it was the fascist commie libruls that were the ones keeping Rosa from sitting down, because, um, ACORN, somethingsomething SHUT UP, OK???
One of the greatest comments ever via the RSS feed:
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9415.html/comment-page-12#comment-1028386
‘before’. dammit.
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
Imagine the county clerk, rather than refusing to issue a marriage license to a lesbian couple, marrying one of them himself.
One of the greatest comments ever via the RSS feed:
a thing of beauty. if your definition of beauty includes great frothy gouts of spittle.
During the Bush years, I made it a habit of reminding authoritarian dumbfucks that power isn’t easily taken back, and that one day just MAAAAAAAYBEEEEEEE there might be someone in office they didn’t trust with all that power they were gladly ceding to Baby Bush.
I did the same thing, thinking that the wingnuts would at least be willing to listen to arguments about limited government, checks and balances, and the dangers of the slow accretion of government power. It was a complete disaster. For most of these people, the phrase “The President is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces” functions as an escape clause from, well, every other part of the Constitution, so everything Bush did was naturally in accord with the Constitution and there was no threat to liberty at all. That’s one reason that the tea partiers were silent during Bush’s reign but got noisy once Obama took office.
There are, of course, other reasons.
How many Americans you meet in the street know what the Federal Reserve is?
I confess that I always have to think about it for a second, because my intuitive answer–“uh, something to do with money and economic regulation and inflation and interest rates, um, Alan Greenspan”–isn’t really all that useful. I can’t bring myself to fault anyone who’s trying to learn more about this stuff; you’ve got to learn about it sometime, after all, and you can’t go back in time and erase your prior ignorance.
Once again, the realization that a black man (Hide the wimmenz!!!) has been elected (with voting & stuff) President of the US is enough to make decent, god-fearing WHITE FOLK realize that the local DMV has now been authorized to euthenize grandma, rape your sons & daughters, shoot you in the head for not saluting and kissing the official portriat of OBAMA, and making our children swear personal blood oaths to follow OBAMA to death.
All this makes one brave reporter breathlessly report what people have asked him to write down, and report to the nation under fear for his life.
Meanwhile, on this plane of existence, where, um, actual humans live, none of these horrible things are happening, only prooving my point!!!!!
not too long now before they all think this is ACTUALLY what happened, and it was the fascist commie libruls that were the ones keeping Rosa from sitting down
All part of the secret Progressive plot to hide the TRUE HISTORY of America from the masses.
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
Imagine if the local CIA officer/military prison guard/former Vice President of the United States of America had said: “It took thousands of years for torture to be banned by civilized nations, so of course, no such inhumanity will ever be perpetrated in our country’s name.”
And yet, there they are, hell bent on restoring to power the very party that foisted the crises upon us all in the first place. Way to go, fucktards.
We. Are. Truly. Doomed. From. The. Stupid.
Its pretty obvious that you liberals fear the Tea Party Movement because you know it will ultimately be your undoing
Garry,
Not really. Good luck with that!
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
Imagine the local sheriff lynched as a race traitor.
Anyway, segregated busing was the law in Montgomery. The sheriff had no choice but to arrest her, which was kind of the point of her protest.
So, this guy’s vision of the ideal sheriff is one who chooses when he’ll enforce the law depending on whether it suits his own political agenda.
Imagine the local sheriff, he said, rather than arresting Ms. Parks, escorting her home, stopping to buy her a meal at an all-white diner.
Now imagine that the sheriff is none other than James Dean, who– instead of dying two months before Ms. Park’s refusal to move to the back of the bus– is still very much alive, because he went into sheriffing, rather than acting.
And also imagine that the Nazis won WWII and Charles Lindbergh is President of the United States. But Amelia Earhart, who never disappeared, is working with a secret underground resistance, and, as it turns out, the diner that Sheriff James Dean takes Rosa Parks to is actually the headquarters of the resistance. But because Jonas Salk was never born, the polio epidemic wages unabated!
It looks like danger lurks at every corner! What will happen next?
you liberals fear the Tea Party Movement because you know it will ultimately be your undoing
Yes, yes, but WILL THERE BE COOKIES?
You White Rabbits fear the Tea Party because you know it will ultimately be your unbirthday!
All you have is innuendo and lies about the Tea Party because you can’t dare to have a true grassroots movement
I find that one way to have a true grassroots movement after a tea party is to eat a lot of bran.
cerberus–
Well, anyway, *I* liked your post.
Also–and while I know occasionally some folks on this side of the Divide of Krazee use it–I frown on the use of “said” to mean “previously mentioned,” as in “…and said funds were used for transportation” or “Well, it turns out that said candidate was connected to Lyndon Larouche.”
I know that’s what it means. But using it strikes me as a straining toward military macho and lawerly authority, neither which said user merits. Nuff said!
Damn you wordpress!!
Here I had a link, a block quote, and all.
And it eated it, with some snide remark about cheating and spam.
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All part of the secret Progressive plot to hide the TRUE HISTORY of America from the masses.
Frickin’ historian trade guild.
I’m working on the Rosa Parks incident for my next book, but it won’t be in stores for a while.
I know that’s what it means. But using it strikes me as a straining toward military macho and lawerly authority, neither which said user merits. Nuff said!
Somebody needs to start tracking down all of these sayings attributed to Nuff.
Right!
Your comment was a bit too short. Please go back and try again.
Gavin M., wordpress stole my lunch and laughed at me.
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I’m working on the Rosa Parks incident for my next book, but it won’t be in stores for a while.
Wasn’t she actually a Republican?
I’m working on the Rosa Parks incident for my next book, and I need one of you who knows about it to send me an email. I don’t really need to know all about Parks but I just need the highlights.
Plus I’m on a deadline and don’t really have time to work on this.
K-Lo is going to teach me how to find her g-spot tonight.
Somebody needs to start tracking down all of these sayings attributed to Nuff.
You need to talk to this guy, Gavin
One of the greatest comments ever via the RSS feed:
Does anyone know what happened to that Righteous Bubba guy?
He won, dammit!
I’m not a racist! My favorite dildo is black!
Yes, yes, but WILL THERE BE COOKIES?
Yes, but since it’s a tea party, they’re called biscuits.
Somebody had to do it.
Jonah Goldberg said,
February 17, 2010 at 2:58 (kill)
Dear God, please kill me now for all the joy and beauty has been drained from my life forever. Amen.
Yes, but since it’s a tea party, they’re called biscuits.
I thought those were the things one ate with gravy for breakfast?
At the Tea Parties do they get to use their parents’ real tea serving sets when the little girls are serving imaginary tea to their dressed up teddy bears, or do they have to use the kids’ plastic tea serving set? This is important.
“Third…and I’m sorry to Godwin the thread so early, but do you suppose this is how it happened in Germany, too? A fringe group of weirdo nutcases starts yelling at each other, every sane person sort of looks on half bemused and half horrified and before you know it…”
My two cents on the fascism issue;
Yes, the teabaggers would absolutely support a fascist state if that was what it came to. The thing is, they won’t support it unless the elites (via Fox, PJTV and a hundred other “grassroots” media outlets) tell them to (just like they didn’t care about, or even know about, the deficit until conservative media turned it into this huge, life-threatening issue last year).
So the question is, do the elites want a fascist state? I say no, because they don’t need one at this time – the current system’s been good to them for the last thirty years. All the teabaggers are supposed to do is turn up the heat on Congress and bring the GOP back into fashion in 2010, so the elites can go back to the way things were. They’ve never been anything but a tool to be discarded as soon as the status quo is restored.
For the elites to support an all-out fascist overhaul, the threat to the existing order would have to be a hell of a lot more severe than the one Obama poses right now.
So the question is, do the elites want a fascist state? I say no, because they don’t need one at this time – the current system’s been good to them for the last thirty years.
I say that the current system is so damned close to a fascist state
(wars for big corporations, a corporate controlled media whose purpose is not providing information – rather it is brainwashing the masses, no trials for enemies of the State – but torture and infinite detention, and relentless flag-waving in favor of cleansing the Fatherland…ring a bell, anyone?),
that the answer is yes.
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Does anyone know what happened to that Righteous Bubba guy?
STOP LOOKING AT THE ZOMBIES. WE WERE IN CHICAGO.
a corporate controlled media whose purpose is not providing information – rather it is brainwashing the masses
So, are you possibly suggesting…
That headline that you read, the story that broke
Was a scandal and a scam, a political masterstroke
If I knew teabagging would be the wave of the future, I would have … shaved.
Nice vid, BBBB.
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I wish the video quality were better… those ladies are gorgeous.
Getting back to the Sham 69 allusion in the original post…
What if the Teabaggers were united?
If the ‘baggers were united,
They would still be misguided.
It’s always fascinating to me how a basically pretty third-rate band like Sham managed to parlay its dumb songs into such a following. Some kind of lesson there…
Also, the guy with the Nazi armband is cute (as are the approving comments at the YouTube site).
I didn’t see anything wrong with Barstow’s article. It certainly wasn’t a lazy effort, as the post seemed to imply. (WTF was up with all the “I’m still here” stuff?)
There are a lot of these semi-trolls around tonight. They’re not funny or crazy, they’re just sort of dull and dour.
but at least they’re awake.
Bitter Scribe said,
February 17, 2010 at 4:41
I didn’t see anything wrong with Barstow’s article. It certainly wasn’t a lazy effort, as the post seemed to imply. (WTF was up with all the “I’m still here” stuff?)
I will attempt to recreate the post FYWP eated.
Bob Somerby (saying much the same thing as Bitter Scribe).
Where is mention of FreedomWorks? Americans For Prosperity?
aka: The Corporate funded astroturfers who put the teabagger movement on your TV and in your noozepapers?
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Now she loves me. WordPress and I are taking a vacation to Saint John in April.
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rather it is brainwashing the masses
does we haz dirty brainz then daddy?
I’ll have the black, ooh long please.
Now she loves me. WordPress and I are taking a vacation to Saint John in April.
You’d better have a trusted contact back in the states, things could take an ugly turn.
We cannot state it often enough: teabaggers started entertaining us with their home-schooled spelling skills only after Freedomworks*, the lobbying firm employed by a has-been Republican politician**, transmitted their marching orders via immigrant Rupert Murdoch’s Fake News Network. Following orders blindly with no questions asked is, indeed, the most radical and anti-authority act any teabagger has ever taken. The anti-war protests of 2003, and the anti-WTO protests of 1999, represented real resistance against out-of-control big government, which emerged naturally from the freedom-loving American body politic. By contrast, teabagging is a wholly synthetic affair; in American political nutrition, teabaggers are the trans fats.
*Any rumor to the effect this was translated from the original German is doubleplus untrue.
**Apologetic apologies for the redundantly redundant redundancy.
its pretty obvious that you liberals fear the Tea Party Movement
Who wouldn’t fear a violent mob, fueled by racism and resentful bias, egged on by unprincipled corporate hacks, ignorant of the facts and full of misplaced anger?
In between laughter and mockery … THE FEAR!
I didn’t see anything wrong with Barstow’s article. It certainly wasn’t a lazy effort, as the post seemed to imply.
I think Gavin’s point was that, for a guy who has the Pulitzer in investigative journalism, there’s precious little investigating going on.
The entire piece is just interviewing Tea Partiers and hearing them rant. Which is a pretty good indictment of the movement by itself, especially when it ends with them saying they want revolution. But it’s hella lazy investigating.
Hearing tea partiers rant is the best antiseptic. What a buncha morans. really, who the fuck would really be a tea partier once you’ve actually heard the fuckwits …. outside Alabama of course, but that goes without saying.
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Yeah, that coulda been a bit less mangled. Don’t do drugs, Children! Or teabags!
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Exposure, SMcG, will be their undoing.
Whatever happened to taxes just paying for roads and firefighters? I’m protesting by never paying taxes again.
Well, he’s one pudgy little fucker, ain’t he?
in American political nutrition, teabaggers are the trans fats.
Ooo, greasy nutsacks.
Whatever happened to private firefighting companies, showing up and fighting each other for the right to put out the fire, which somehow never got put out, but still, we were men back then, and didn’t need no stinkin fires put out, and … oh yeah, it’s all starting to make sense.
Better coverage than the Times usually gives to the ugly underbelly of the American Right. Scary stuff there, and if you report on it that’s just more proof of your Liberal Bias(TM). For comic relief: The Washington Post. (Surprised Jack Bauer doesn’t have a column there yet.)
Sham? You are a gentleman, sir, and one of good taste.
With Glenn Beck’s guidance, they read the Federalist Papers. Okay, this is the silliest horseshit since Sarah Palin last opened her piehole.
It’s true — I stepped on a rusty nail out behind the garage (never mind why I was there), and instead of putting iodine or whatever on my puncture, I put my foot up on the desk that the TV is on and switched on Glenn Beck. Well, guess what — my foot healed in less than twelve hours and you don’t need a government doctor deciding who lives and who dies and they love to pla-hant microphones I find then when I clean up around my home unless constructive-selfish, I work hard perfecting first me, absolute nothing can help perfect me.
when do we get to try on these Tea Panties?
Since these clowns have latched onto literacy tests of late (thank you, Tancredo), how about a simple quiz of Federalist 10 the next time anyone wants to join a tea party rally?
quiz of Federalist
but the words may turn out to mean something very different than what you thought. after all, people like this have been reading the bible for hundreds of years, yet phrases like “I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me” somehow don’t seem to them to apply to succoring the helpless
That’s so New Testament. Everyone knows the real true (asshole) God speaks only through the Old Testament.
Let me reiterate the thing about how your people, sir, is a great beast.
Ya know, Alex, the hardest thing about being a dfh is that, you’re kinda right.
A DFH? I do not know what this means, good sir. A debutante from Haiti? I, myself, married a debutante you know. Hypergamist marriages are often the happiest.
Yours in Christ,
Colonel Hamilton
close, sir. A dirty fucking hippie. In the vernacular, sir.
I doubt that Mr. Hamilton would know from hippies. Colnel, Sir, if I may, think of a DFH as a bit of a layabout; a lover of the Negro and the ƒavage; a hugger of treeƒ.
Thank you, whale chowder. That’s what I was driving at. (And Col. Hamilton, like the rest of us, must adjust to whatever era we find ourselves in.)
Mr. Boots, sir – perhaps you mean to suggest to the Colonel that you have in mind a horny handed mechanical sort of cider-swallowing pettycoat-running-after jack-what-have-you, with the dust of the road on his boots and good honest manure yet soiling his breeches, if you please, sir, and yet, i say, and yet, sir, even so God’s Honest Yeoman earning his bread with the sweat of his nostrils, and, sir, good enough to walk the high street and go to law with any kind of lace-collared sipper of Tea at Parties and Levees and suchlike.
Ah – I see his Lordship Chowder, Prince of Whales, has beaten me to the silver punch bowl. A beverage to you, sir, of your choice!
And Col. Hamilton, like the rest of us, must adjust to whatever era we find ourselves in.
Bringing the conversation back to its beginning, I suspect the teabaggers would
begscream, cry, wail and create misspelled posters to differ.Ah, good Voltaire, I may have been quicker but you, good ƒirrah, were much more amusing.
I doubt that Mr. Hamilton would know from hippies. Colnel, Sir, if I may, think of a DFH as a bit of a layabout; a lover of the Negro and the ƒavage; a hugger of treeƒ.
Ahh. Like Mr. Jefferson. Or should I say, Monsieur Jefferson.
I thank you, sir (bows) – you are a gentleman and a scholar
Much like Jefferson, indeed good sir. To be precise, though, when I asserted that the DFH was a lover of the Negro, I didn’t necessarily mean he was a lover of the Negro, d’yee understand.
Poor Monsieur Jefferson. He made the mistake of trusting the people. He should’ve stopped at liking them.
If We may briefly descend from our divine indifference, Whale Chowder, that really was most amusing.
For whoever’s awake, HTML is preaching, right up there.
For whoever’s awake, HTML is preaching, right up there.
And there’s the problem; it’s 1am here, I HAVE to read the new post as soon as it is up, and my night meds are starting to hit me, so I have basically lost a (potentially) important post.
“She did not know a soul, yet when they began electing board members, she stood up, swallowed hard, and nominated herself for president. “I was like, ‘Did I really just do that?’ ” she recalled.”
Now that’s a religious experience!!
DEAR FUCKING GOD, MAKE THE STOOPID STOP
With Glenn Beck’s guidance, they read the Federalist Papers
The same Glennda Beck who wished that the Federalist Papers could be rewritten for the common man? Ya know, the same papers that were written so that the common man of the day would understand the Constitution so as to vote to ratify it?
So the question is, do the elites want a fascist state?
To quote Shinehead O’Connor: I do not want what I already have.
So, I pretty much grok the Fed, all except one niggling detail:
How in the bloody blazes do they “inject” capital into the system?
How in the bloody blazes do they “inject” capital into the system?
The Fed has mandatory reserves that it requires banks to hold. It injects money by lowering this requirement. Also, by lowering interest rates it creates demand for capital, and it also maintains an open market desk on most stock exchanges, where it can buy and sell bonds. If it buys, it pays cash.
Those are three ways. The fourth is actually printing money, but no one really wants to do that since it’s inflationary and would also monetize our debt (e.g. force the national debt directly onto the world markets but also onto your paycheck).
In between laughter and mockery … THE FEAR!
No, that’s between drei and fünf.
Fünfing ain’t easy.
Thanks, Actor. That helped.
But if they print money, how does it get into circulation?
But if they print money, how does it get into circulation?
1) ATMs.
That’s not a joke.
Did you know every dollar bill you deposit (or someone deposits) is individually screened by a Fed employee?
Banks project their cash demands and ask the Fed for currency to cover (transmitting an electronic debit to pay for it). The Fed provides the physical bills.
2) Strip clubs.
OK, that WAS a joke.
Thanks, I always wondered about that.