Oh ho! What’s this then? A new thread late on a Friday evening?

Why do you hate America?

STARFISH PRIME!

PS – fuck Bill “Never been right” Kristol with a meter long ion powered humorless dildo.

Didn’t we try regime change in Iran, in the 1950s?

Well, I’d bomb Iran with Kristol and his neocon friends, from about 40,000 feet and no parachutes.

But, that would be wrong.

It would be a war crime. (But, damn, it makes a great visual, doesn’t it?)

teh thx to whichever sadly it was who pointed me to Seven American Nights

I mean, my God. Seriously. Wtf is wrong with him?

The only way he’d respect Obama is if he invaded an *additional* brown-person country that hasn’t attacked us.

Like Buchanan with the Nazi revisionism, I knew the crazy was there but I’m still surpised at it’s sad and massive depth.

Didn’t we try regime change in Iran, in the 1950s?

There was no try, only do or do not and we did. Kristol would sign up for 20 something years of a new Shah. And the new shah getting ousted eventually would just mean that Kristol’s kid or some other wingnut scion would have something to write about for 30 years or so.

This is entirely off-topic, but I had to share.

I’ll assume everyone has heard about the “Marvel Comics apologizes to the teabaggers for putting teabaggers in an issue of ‘Captain America'” controversy. If not, link is below.

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2010/02/quesada-responds-as-captain-americas-tea-party-controversy-gains-steam/

Aaaaanyway, apparently, the Big Dog behind the whole thing was none other than Warner Todd Huston. And one of the writers at the Robot 6 comic book blog decided to try to “open a dialogue” with him for some damn reason.

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2010/02/the-fifth-color-an-open-letter-wth/

And Huston shows up in the comments and pretty much acts just like you’d expect him to.

I love how worked up he gets when Biden tries to take credit for “success” in Iraq – hey, if the Obama administration can be blamed for fuckups that happened before he came into office, it can also be credited for good things that happened at the same time. Works both ways, cocksucker.

(Let’s also point out that “success” in Iraq 1) came at the cost of a million Iraqi lives and counting, 2) that the “surge” that brought it about didn’t happen until after the voters got Bush’s attention by taking away both houses of Congress, and 3) that the “surge” only worked because the Bush administration fired Rumsfeld, started listening to people with real experience in Iraq instead of the neocon cabal, and more generally stopped listening to all the fucking ideologically braindead glibertarian toolbags who got us into the war in the first place.

In other words, people like Bill Fucking Kristol who are now advocating the exact same thing in Iran).

Jesus Christ, it really is like Iraq all over again. They were putting pressure on all through the Clinton years for bombing and regime change, and using nuclear weapons as the excuse. God only knows what happens when they get one of their guys in office again.

who’d a known there were so many radio bears in RF… sigh…

“But thanks to the people of Iran, regime change is now a real possibility. Surely the administration could have more of a sense of urgency in helping increase the odds of that devoutly to-be-wished goal.”

In other words, the Green Revolution had better do its work awfully damn quick, before Israel and/or the United States start bombing the country. Imagine the pressure of not only trying to save your country from dictatorship but also from the threat of all-out war.

By the way, does anyone else think these people are gullible as fucking shit to believe that if the regime falls, that’s the end of the nuclear problem? Suppose Iran did become a liberal democracy complete with Western-style elections, civil rights and separation of powers; who’s to say they won’t still want a nuclear arsenal? If you were living next-door to a powderkeg full of Sunni fundamentalists (Pakistan), a couple doors down from a nation of religious fanatics who believe they have a God-given right to carpet-bomb anyone anywhere for any reason (Israel) and both these countries had nuclear weapons trained on you – why the hell wouldn’t you want your own nukes? Just a thought.

Marvel brouhaha:
Why on earth did those people apologize and stammer and explain and etc?? I can see no necessity to do so whatsoever, even from a wingnut’s point of view. In fact from the sounds of things the damned comic was far, far too sympathetic to the teabag people.

And JESUS CHRIST that guy Huston is an asshole. Can we get a damned proctologist over heah!

God only knows what happens when they get one of their guys in office again.

Rogue state, baby! It’ll be the war of all against us.

Kristol is just the worst kind of scum. Thank dog he’s never right about anything.

Last Kristol comment;

“Perhaps embracing the concept of “regime change” spooks the Obama administration. It’s awfully reminiscent of George W. Bush. But one great failure of the Bush administration was its second-term fecklessness with respect to Iran. Bush kicked the Iran can down the road.”

Sadly, no! (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/18/AR2007011801273.html)

George W. Bush’s biggest mistake in dealing with Iran came in his first term, when in the aftermath of the Iraq invasion, a terrified Iranian government offered what in context was practically a surrender, offering to cooperate in stabilizing Iraq, bring Hezbollah and Hamas into line, and reduce its own nuclear program. Instead of accepting the deal, Bush decided he was too cool to be seen talking to Iran; over the next few years, our situation in the Persian Gulf deteriorated while theirs got better and better, to the point that they’re now, once again, in a position of strength.

Thanks, George. Really and truly thanks, you dimwitted jagoff.

Take a look at a map of the Middle East. Notice anything about Iran that makes it just wee bit different than Iraq or Afghanistan? How about the fact that is bigger than both of them put together? Any other differences? Well, you could point out that it’s a wealthy, modern country, unlike Afghanistan, or that it has a fully functioning air force and army, and it hasn’t been struggling under crippling sanctions for the last 10 years, like Iraq was before 2003, or that it has powerful allies, like China and Russia. Also, its people, even as they protest their current government, are fiercely proud and loyal to their country. They won’t embrace a foreign power–especially the US, coming to “liberate” them. There will be no flowers, no chocolates, no government-in-exile for them to rally ’round. In fact, the most effective possible way for the hard-line Islamic government to shore up its support would be for us to take military action.

Take another look at that map. Pretend you live in Iran. What do you see on your borders? American allies, and American-occupied puppet states, almost completely surrounding you. Of course you’re going to want nukes. You’d have to be a complete idiot not to.

Not getting off the boat. Kristol-mangoes are, in my experience, infested with herpes and brown recluse spiders, but can anyone tell me if there’s even a pretense of a strategic or economic benefit to America, anything besides “Because dude it would be SO AWESOME to watch all those explosions and my cock is wilting, also.” Not that I expect anything else.

Steerpike, I think your link broke Internetz Law. Get ready for jackbooted USCO thugs to come shoving themselves down your throat knocking on your door.

Re the Marvel/Captain America situation (this’ll be the last bit of ranting, I promise), I read this recently on the wikipedia article discussing the upcoming Cap movie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_America_in_other_media#The_First_Avenger:_Captain_America);

“Originally, the film would stand alone; producer Kevin Feige said “about half” the movie would be set during World War II before moving into the modern day.[12] Producer Avi Arad said, “The biggest opportunity with Captain America is as a man ‘out of time’, coming back today, looking at our world through the eyes of someone who thought the perfect world was small-town America. Sixty years go by, and who are we today? Are we better?””

It’s a really small thing to get irritated about, but if I remember right, Captain America was never supposed to be an ode to the virtues of “small town America.” He was an Irish city boy from Lower East Side Manhattan (that most liberal and immigrant of cities).

One of the best thing about comic book heroes like Superman and Captain America was that they were all-American icons for immigrants, with a message that they were just as American as anyone else. I don’t mind other superheroes being from non-immigrant backgrounds, but it would really ruin a huge part of the character if they retconned him to appeal to some modern prejudice in which only rural all-WASP America is allowed to produce patriotic icons.

on a lighter note: PUBES!</a)

Must be that the wingnut definition for Real Murrikan is a-shrinkin’. Teh non-whiteys have never been a part of it, but it seems like certain types of white folk are losing it too. An Irish guy from New York is not American now? Kee-rist, wait five years and it’ll be landowning males of British descent over the age of 35.

Kristol is just the worst kind of scum. Thank dog he’s never right about anything.

Kristol is one of the people who arguably brought Sarah Palin to national prominence, and he deserves a special place in hell for that alone:

The most ardent promoter, however, was Kristol, and his enthusiasm became the talk of Alaska’s political circles. According to Simpson, Senator Stevens told her that “Kristol was really pushing Palin” in Washington before McCain picked her. Indeed, as early as June 29th, two months before McCain chose her, Kristol predicted on “Fox News Sunday” that “McCain’s going to put Sarah Palin, the governor of Alaska, on the ticket.” He described her as “fantastic,” saying that she could go one-on-one against Obama in basketball, and possibly siphon off Hillary Clinton’s supporters. He pointed out that she was a “mother of five” and a reformer. “Go for the gold here with Sarah Palin,” he said. The moderator, Chris Wallace, finally had to ask Kristol, “Can we please get off Sarah Palin?”

The next day, however, Kristol was still talking about Palin on Fox. “She could be both an effective Vice-Presidential candidate and an effective President,” he said. “She’s young, energetic.” On a subsequent “Fox News Sunday,” Kristol again pushed Palin when asked whom McCain should pick: “Sarah Palin, whom I’ve only met once but I was awfully impressed by—a genuine reformer, defeated the establishment up there. It would be pretty wild to pick a young female Alaska governor, and I think, you know, McCain might as well go for it.” On July 22nd, again on Fox, Kristol referred to Palin as “my heartthrob.” He declared, “I don’t know if I can make it through the next three months without her on the ticket.”

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all

Steerpike, I think your link broke Internetz Law. Get ready for jackbooted USCO thugs to come shoving themselves down your throat knocking on your door.

Hotlinking is not fair use!!! Bratwursting, on the other hand…

Bill Kristol, Backpfeifengesicht.

Why does anybody listen to this sack of loose turds anyway?

If anybody ever deserved to lose their job and be laughed out of their profession, it would be him. Weekly, at least. Pity that the stocks are no longer considered suitable punishment.

Kee-rist, wait five years and it’ll be landowning males of British descent over the age of 35.

Just not the ones from them coastal eeee-leet states.

“Kee-rist, wait five years and it’ll be landowning males of British descent over the age of 35.”

Obviously man. The “over 35” thing especially, because;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States#Possibility_of_a_new_consensus

Can’t have a generation like that taking over the country now can we.

Kristol’s world was shaken when the black man got into the WH. He wants to regain his symbolic power over black people, who he thinks care a fuck about what he thinks, and he is prepared to bankrupt his country to achieve that power.

Looking at that Wikipedia link…I’ve seen a lot of mind-boggling statistics, but the idea that 42% of Americans think that the Bible should be used to determine law over the will of the people just might be the most holy-fuck-what-kind-of-country-is-this number I have ever seen.

Swedish Pecker.

landowning males of British descent over the age of 35.

“British descent” is a bit vague. I mean, there’s the Home Counties and then there’s mangel-wurzel country.

Another Palin cheerleader, & proof y’all should be reading Just Another Blog (From L. A.)™ on a daily basis for all the hot poop. (Almost two yrs. ago, anyway.)

We may have been the first person to make fun of Trig’s name. (Which is actually making fun of the assholes who named him, not the poor fellow himself.)

Why does Bill Kristol now make me think of Fanboy and Chum Chum?

Let’s at least narrow that down to Scotch-English. “Brits’ could include the Welsh.

Hey, if it’s going to be like Balloon Juice around here, w/ your damned “WP-Spam Free” imposing comment length fascism, could we get an edit function?

Bomb, if you love Uncle Friedman.

“Well, I’d bomb Iran with Kristol and his neocon friends, from about 40,000 feet and no parachutes.

But, that would be wrong.

It would be a war crime. (But, damn, it makes a great visual, doesn’t it?)”

Fuck that. The only war crime would be subjecting the Iranians to a breathing Bill Kristol for the 3-4 minutes it’d take for him to hit the ground.

Why does anybody listen to this sack of loose turds anyway?

That … that is a riddle, wrapped in a nepotism, concealing a stigma.

You know, bombing Iran would probably result in something similar to what happened to the U.S. on September 11, when those nineteen sincere Muslim hijackers hit the WTC and Pentagon, and the American people realized that, damn, but the Muslim world might just have a point, that we HAVE been meddling too much in their affairs, and maybe we should modify our behavior a skosh and become more understanding of their concerns. Remember how grateful we all were that those hijackers helped us see the error of our ways? Ahh…no, I don’t either. Kristol is a fucking idiot.

teh thx to whichever sadly it was who pointed me to Seven American Nights

One of the best works in the modern American ouvre– haunting, unforgettable, depressingly prescient.