Well, then I guess he wouldn’t mind if I called him a honky nerf herder.

After reading some of those comments, I can only wonder how a party of totalitarian ideologues so resembles the herding of cats.

Get out of the boat, do not. Hmmmmmmm. Shorter, always trust.

I got a bad feeling about this. I’m staying in the Falcon.

Unless George Lucas too is a racist.

Erickson meet Watto. Watto meet Jar Jar. Jar Jar meet two fishhead trade federation members. Fishhead trade federation members, Erickson. Erickson, Jar Jar. Watto, fishhead trade federation members.

Wait, have all the comical stereotypes now met one another or do we need name tags?

Wasn’t there just a debatediscussion about words & their context?

Got off the boat, & went to the next island, where I found the guy who Air-Wreck-son set off in the first place:

Indeed, President Obama’s speech was a successful game of “take away”: in one night Obama took the staples of Republican election success – tax credits, pro-business policies, and nuclear power – away from them, and the GOP cheered in the process. But when the hangover from the SOTU cleared, and the GOP realized what happened, some conservatives went for the racial-code-word jugular and sounded like White Supremacists in the process.

“Cocky?”

Yes Erik the Red is a dick 99.99% of the time, but in this instance he is not. Unless you follow cocky with the n-word, how is it racist? The originator of this comment, Zennie62 is just trying too hard.

Jeezus Howling Tranny Christ in a Lamé Wetsuit (aka, your Republican Senator of choice, but I digress). Why, oh why did I think those mangoes looked good?

Leaving the post in question aside for the moment, J fucking HTCiaLW!!! That is one truly stupid site. All I wanted was a nice mango, strollin along the beach all doot-doo-doot, and BAM! Holy Fuck! I didn’t know that stupid and disingenuous had bred and made something corporeal, but it looks like they have.

I guess I just haven’t spent much time in the bowels of Dumbfuckistan of late. Some of this shit is simply jawdropping. The one that got me in passing like a Cholla cactus was in this gem, highlighted,

Until the Democrats took back Congress in 2006, the Bush economic expansion saw the lowest unemployment in American history.

WTF??? Said I. Sadly, no. Not even close. In fact, the rate never even got back down to where it was when Bush took office. Apparently, veracity is not exactly the goal over there. Ironically, the preceding phrase in the text was,

Whoops.

Ahead of that, was this,

I know the liberal spin is that they were tax cuts for the rich. But that’s really not true. When you examine the Bush tax cuts, you’ll find they were targeted to jump start the economy out of the Clinton recession of 2000. And they worked.

Yup. the Clinton recession that didn’t start until March ’01, when Bush was in office. As opposed to the Obama recession, which started a year before he was elected, earlier if you want to look at when the housing bubble started to pop. Oy.

So, the post titled,

Barack Obama’s Statement on Taxes Raises a Valid Question

finishes with the acrobatic idiocy,

The Bush tax cuts worked. Obama recognizes that tax cuts grow the economy. So why let the Bush tax cuts expire when they got us to the lowest unemployment in American history?

I guess if you can just make the fuck up whatever you feel like as support for your inanity, then it’s a valid question. For normal, sentient human beings, not so much.

Fuckittyfuckfuckfuckkity. It’s going to take some scrubbing to get that stupid off of me. No more fucking mangoes, I tell ya.

Fuck.

Shorter me: THERE ARE NO FUCKING MANGOES ON ENDOR!

Also, yeah, I agree that “cocky” is more than a couple of steps away from “uppity” and that Zennie is stretching it. I really don’t have any sympathy for Urrick catching shit for any reason whatsoever, though, as he seems to skate on such obvious and verifiable lies as mentioned above. Urrick finds the one time a bigger idiot than himself goes against him and tees it up. How sad, coming from someone who has had to winnow his site membership down to the several dozen folks who can stay on message in the comments no matter how wrong they are.

Above “Whoops” above should be,

but that is another lie

wp. fu. etc.

Speaking of Star Wars, this review of The Phantom Menace is quite possibly the best thing on YouTube evar:
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/12/17/watch-this-70-minute-video-review-of-star-wars-the-phantom-menace/

justme:

a corollary to “always trust the shorter” is “always entrust the comedy to the writers.” was 3 lines into your first long diatribe before i got irritated, about 4.5 lines in before i quit reading.

yours in christ,

anon

Those guys are a bunch of KKK Georgia boys who took up corporatist fascism. hey are uedto being caled racist.

So if 1500 people register, open up 10 or 20 Redstate windows, load up cut and paste stuff from randon S,N and post the all at the same time to the minute, would it screw up their server or just be a horrific pain in the butt for them to clean up.

So if 1500 people register, open up 10 or 20 Redstate windows, load up cut and paste stuff from randon S,N and post the all at the same time to the minute, would it screw up their server or just be a horrific pain in the butt for them to clean up.

rofl omg rofl 2 funnee!@ U THE MAN NOW DAWG!@

(when two tribes go to war….)

The Blam stick would get worn out for sure….

SN should plan this event.

The Blam stick would get worn out ….

Sadly Naughts should plan an event.

Create it so you can knock it down!

Such bravery.

Always trust the shorter? Sadly, No.

In this case, and this case probably only, cause Eric Erickson is a douchebag, I have to say he’s right. The post he linked to that criticized him for using the word cocky as a racist word didn’t cite any other racist thing he ever said (which may exist, I’m not familiar w/ anything but the posts in question), it just linked to his post where he called the President cocky. And then cited some other post, by another person, that was clearly racist and happened to use the word also use the word cocky.

How many times was Bush called cocky? Well, if one bothered to check the Great Gazoogle, one would know the answer was a lot.

http://www.google.com/search?q=bush+cocky&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Fair enough, he was a cocky son-of-a-bitch.

Now, you may be upset that the same charge is being hurled at the president you support, but that hardly makes it racist.

On the other hand, I could see some validity in the charge that his elision of the word “stating” in the title of the post in which he originally used the word “cocky,” which surely was not in the transcript of the SOTU, could be seen as dog-whistle racist. However, that is not the charge to which is Erickson is responding in the post you mock here.

–His dog-whistle elision of the word “stating,” is another matter–

“stating” was not in the SOTU transcript I mean. Neither was “cocky” obviously, but I wanted to clear up the meaning of that sentence.

And yes, I see other egregious grammatical mistakes as well, oh well.

….and detritus from (failed) editing…

I don’t think cocky is racially motivated either, but why am I not surprised that Erickson felt the need to shove his cocky down the throats of his readers?

Funny you should mention the Chewbacca Defense, it occurs to me that conducting irregular warfare (‘social hacking’) in broad daylight against a US Senator’s official public telecommunications… that makes absolutely no sense! I mean, what would a Wookiee be doing walking into an Empire outpost on Endor, dressed up as a phone repairman, I ask you, does that MAKE ANY SENSE?! No! What does that have to do with ACORN? Nothing! See?

If that doesn’t prove that Breitblart knew nothing about any of this well I don’t know what does, ladies and gentlemen, and not only that no one saw anything, besides you can’t prove a thing and they were just college kids, they didn’t really mean it that they were actually serious defense intelligence experts or brilliant muckraking journalists, they’re harmless kids! good American youths from wholesome homes and it was just a harmless prank after ali, not to mention that I’m sure we don’t yet know the Context, and their True Intent and they promise never to do it again and furthermore their parents promise to keep a close eye on that OKeefe boy and his friends from now on. It makes. No. Sense.

Erickson meet Watto. Watto meet Jar Jar. Jar Jar meet two fishhead trade federation members. Fishhead trade federation members, Erickson. Erickson, Jar Jar. Watto, fishhead trade federation members.

You omitted the comical Italian race-car driver and crew.

Does this mean that Obama is the last black man in the galaxy?

animus said,

January 29, 2010 at 14:08

Does this mean that Obama is the last black man in the galaxy?

Is his birth certificate from Bespin and his father Lando Calrissian?
That would make him unfit for president.

The fact is, the New Orleans 4 were striking a blow for freedom against a corrupt government that is not of the people, but of the communists. By returning power to where is should be, with white people who built our modern world, and to the natural leaders, such as successful businessmen, they are visionaries who were set up in a hitech lynching.

Unfortunately, I’m going to have to take Erick’s side on this. This is the first I’ve heard “cocky” having a racist meaning. Just because a bunch of white supremacist douchebags used a word, doesn’t mean they own it forever more. Or that we’re all supposed to keep up with their definitions of words.

But Erick loses many, many points for the pointless Star Wars reference — especially since people were, in fact, more openly racist and misogynistic in the 70’s.

I’m not trying to make the point that “cocky” is code for “uppity.” I just think his argument that it can’t be because Hans Solo used the word is gob-smackingly stupid. Of course, there is plenty of other evidence that Erickson is a racist dick.

From the comments section;

“Dude, no amount of convincing remains. The country doesn’t want it. The commies don’t care. They are going to pass this come hell or highwater. Dems are retiring because the fix has been in for awhile. They’ll vote yes and not have to worry about re-election. That’s the reason they are retiring. They know it will be nearly impossible to repeal it. They are idealogues of the most extreme sort and many on our side labor under the delusion that obama and the congress care what we think.”

If only.

Reminds me of the story about the old Jewish man, in the middle of a pogrom, sitting down to read Czarist propaganda about how his people are secretly the powerful puppetmasters controlling the world from behind the scenes. They ask him why he’s reading it and he says it’s nice to read about a world where a Jew could have that kind of power, even if it’s only a dream.

So cocky is two steps short of uppity and Eric couldn’t make it across that line, but that still doesn’t mean he isn’t wrong.

Really- Obama had 66 million people pick him to be president, a majority of the people from a majority of the states, he finished off like a dozen other dems and a really crazy republican tag team.

I know Eric wanted Obama to apologize for becoming president and all but blaming him for having a high opinion of himself is just stupid.

“I’m not trying to make the point that “cocky” is code for “uppity.” I just think his argument that it can’t be because Hans Solo used the word is gob-smackingly stupid. Of course, there is plenty of other evidence that Erickson is a racist dick.”

Hmmmmm… well, fair enough I guess, but he was responding to a fairly gob-smackingly stupid charge.

The other evidence you cite is more compelling. As is the elision of the “g” in “stating” that I mentioned in my earlier comment.

the New Orleans 4

Ohhhhhhhhh no, you didn’t.

You’re not comparing this bunch of Teabagger assclowns to anyone who was prosecuted for political beliefs back in the ’70s. Nope. Nu-huh.

Nope, not unless you want to admit there are Weathermen and SLA equivalents on your side as well, which we all know is bullshit because Teh Glennster proved the other day that all political violence in American history has been from the left and not only did Commies force the Pinkertons to massacre miners’ families but Eric Rudolph and Tim McVeigh were secretly part of the Shavian Plot Against Capitalism.

*snerk*

Tintin – from the old S,N! thread you linked to:

The Israeli far-right said similar things about Yitzhak Rabin when he won in ‘94, I’m sure.

Hopefully someone did mention what happened to Rabin later.

Beck may pretend we’re a threat… but it’s his side who has the guns and the violent revolutionary rhetoric lately.

Dear Gary,
Please publicly, loudly defend what I was doing as “returning power to where it should be, with white people”. This will be extremely helpful to my cause.

But Erick loses many, many points for the pointless Star Wars reference — especially since people were, in fact, more openly racist and misogynistic in the 70’s.

Nerd that I am, I think I could make a pretty decent case that the original trilogy had something of an anti-racist bent, if anything. No stupid stereotypes or condescension, to start with.

You had aliens who were critical for the success of the Rebellion: Bothan spies, Admiral Ackbar, Yoda. Against an evil Empire that was purely human and at least in the novels, openly xenophobic.

Yoda’s introduction is a little parable about prejudice in general.

Okay, my argument falls apart completely with the Ewoks. But so did George Lucas.

The question I have is: “If a person who wishes to be taken seriously in the world of political punditry (online or otherwise), why would they use vague Star Wars references to make a point?”

I like Star Wars, but if I were to compare Iraq to Tatooine I’d expect to be laughed out of the bar 7-11 CNN Situation Room.

I suspect that EE would not have called President Obama “cocky” if he had been white and acting the same way, but that’s just because I think EE is a racist jerk and not because it’s automatically racist to say a black man is “cocky.”

And of course we called Bush II “cocky.’ HE WAS. hell, his fans loved him for it! Righties claiming they can call Obama “cocky” because the left said Bush II was, is like saying they can call Obama “fat” because the left said the same thing about Taft!

If a word was used in In “The Heat of the Night”, it can’t possibly be racist for me to use that word when referring to Mr. Obaamalama.

If a person who wishes to be taken seriously in the world of political punditry (online or otherwise), why would they use vague Star Wars references to make a point?

Two words: Jonah Goldberg.

(to expand on the point – these assclowns are so desperate for any measure of “hipness” and cultural relevance that they flail around for pop culture references they hope will appeal to “the kids today”, laying them on the Procrustean bed of conservativism and cheerfully lopping off limbs until they fit. It’s kind of as if they need to toe the Party line on hating “Hollyweird” but nevertheless feel that they have to keep up with entertainment – thus the constant examinations of “Star Wars”, “Star Trek”, “Avatar”, “Lord Of The Rings” u.s.w. to see what they can hack off to make it fit their bias.)

I kind of like that EE now thinks Obama is ‘cocky’ – it means EE recognizes that Obama’s showing some fight in him. For a long time ‘arrogant and aloof’ were the negatives heaped on Obama, not exactly a description that had people like EE fearful that he was about to get shit done.

hell, EE probably thinks Stepin Fechit was “cocky.”

Tintin,

You have the power up above the fold. That’s your area. Down here, we have a chimp’s tea party and fling poo at old copies of Tintin in America, which proves you’re a racist also, too. That is why the internezn is democratic.

You all were asking, so here’s my 2¢: words like “cocky” are well within the dog whistle, racist code range, IMH opinion. Do not underestimate the complexity of the language being used by the disloyal opposition, just because them good ole boys are retartid. They are furiously laboring (in their underpants, in front of the TV) to invent a whole system of coded meanings so they can’t be understood by the prying eyes of big gummint etc. that falls just this side of being a literal code, which is all part of their love of pretending there’s a massive conspiracy against them and they’re running some kind of Dorito seasoning scented resistance.

Quick example: code words for Jews, among many others, include “Upper East Side/ Upper West Side liberals,” “Hollywood types” and “Hollywood,” “International bankers,” and it’s also inferred, depending on context, in such phrases as “Ivy League tenured elites,” “liberal intellectuals,” etc. I’m not providing specific references here because I assume you’re all familiar with these usages.

“Uppity” is a racially-charged word. It is only really used in one phrase in the modern era, allied with a second word, spoken or implied, that angers homosexual negroes in the previous thread. “Boy,” applied to anyone over the age of 9 that falls into the African-derived racial category, is similarly racist. I’m feeling pompous and inclined to start the next par with “Indeed.”

Indeed, a term like “cocky” shares something of the roots of “uppity” and “boy,” because it’s a diminishing type of word. Donald Rumsfeld was pathologically self-assured, overconfident, conceited, and thought he was the fucking shiznit, for example. But the word “cocky” doesn’t quite work because it is suggestive of the little man strutting around with his chin poked out at his betters. Rumsfeld was an establishment heavy. His plans may have been cocky, but he was Napoleonic.

Now I probably described him as “cocky,” back when, but I was diminishing him on purpose. Fast-forward to today, and the word has taken on new connotations that wouldn’t fit Rumsfeld… not with a new sheriff in town, if you follow my coded meaning. Clang! I guess what I’m saying is don’t misunderestimate these people. They’re using all sorts of code language, and it is deliberate. We do it too. Penis, badgers, Hitler, wolverines. For us, they’re in-jokes. For the humorless fuckwits on the other side, they’re secret passwords to the clubhouse of tiny minds.

Why do they call Obama “Barry?” Because that was his nickname when he was a kid? Kind of, yes. It’s overfamiliar, diminishes the man, makes him infantile, the same way “boy” would. “Barry” becomes code for “boy.” Having read these people ranting on for many years now, I believe it is not a stretch to be suspicious of words like “cocky” as used by them.

When they use words like “Nazi” and “Hitler,” on the other hand, they’re just calling a spade a spade.

I raptly read every word of justme’s and lester’s posts. Normally an audience member of Short Attention Span Theater, did I take a ritalin overdose or something?

justme – thank you, you’re a braver man than I. You were feeling cocky, yes? And sadly, now you just feel filthy. Here, you can hold my hand on the poopdeck – it’s a good vantage spot for the keelhaulings.

There’s nothing like a criticism of overlong posts to make me long-winded. QED.

Well, Spock took a whole bunch of guff from the crew of the enterprise, especially Dr. McCoy harassing him about having green blood.

The implication being that Jews have green blood. I get it, Mr. code word.

Dr McCoy was clearly racist in his attitude to Spock. But remember he was “Just an Ooold Fashion’ Country Doc-tor”

EE = making a sow’s ear out of a silk purse … WITH ONLY THE POWER OF HIS MIND!

Whoa now. StarWars-analogies are already well down the road to East Onion-In-Belt-On-Geezerford as it is. A wingnut trying to use one to make themselves seem more PC? Now that’s some real mega-meta-idiotainment right there!

Cocky is about as racist a word as oblique or upholstery … & be it ever so easy to affirm this, only Erk, Son Of Erk could make a correct & reasonable POV sound this incandescently full of fucktardery. Either someone went way overboard on the glue-huffing in his callow youth, or someone’s Mommy liked to drop someone on their head a little too much.

“his argument that it can’t be because Hans Solo used the word”

(ssss) We must take care – the Farce is strong with this one. (ssss)

All right, Erick, now you can start on Joe Lieberman with a word that rhymes with cocky. Hint: It starts with an M.

Heebie?

Bozell’s Crack Investigator said,

January 29, 2010 at 19:50

EEEEWWW!!!
Investigating Bozell’s crack?

Just EEEEEEEEEWWWW!!!

You know who ELSE hated an iconic Harrison Ford character?

Cocky is about as racist a word as oblique or upholstery …

That depends on the upholstery.

I knew the goal posts moved around for a lot for the Red Staters, but they must be on wheels and have a Hemi under the hood.

Now if he’d said macocky, well, just ask George Allen.

It’s always about context.

Han’s full line: “Great shot kid! Don’t get cocky.”

Somehow, I doubt Erickson was using “cocky” right after praise.

Does Erick the Unread google his name each day to bare penises such as the famous Zennie6?, who is very, very famous and widely quoted all around the Bay? He has a point but how far did he have to reach around?

Nerd that I am, I think I could make a pretty decent case that the original trilogy had something of an anti-racist bent, if anything. No stupid stereotypes or condescension, to start with.

A simplistic anti-racist bent (“we don’t serve their kind here”), but one where humans are always driving the action (hey, Avatar, how are you?) and the aliens are always the helpmeets. Chewy is always being ordered about. And the cast is all white in Star Wars, further suggesting that the aliens are stand-ins for non-whites, or at least that when George Lucas imagines a universe, in his vision it is populated entirely by whites. And Sand People?! “Filthy” Jawa itinerant traders? Come on!

Chewbacca was never the same after he lost the Pretty Woman lead to Richard Gere.

Yes, it is always about context.

For example, “insolent” is a perfectly perfect word. But when Henry Kissinger described the North Vietnamese contingent at the Paris peace talks as being “insolent”, he was obviously letting his little imperialist feelings get hurt. You don’t call your diplomatic counterpart “insolent”, except when you don’t take the diplomatic counterpart, the diplomatic delegation, or the diplomatic project seriously.

Words are words. Sometimes they get used up and we can’t assign them any other meaning than the very narrow one that got them used up (like “uppity”). “Arrogant” or “shrill” or “strident” (I get the latter two a lot) are perfectly perfect words that have been loaded up with more crap than is useful. But they are still useful.

Okay: I acknowledge that the preceding remarks may not be totally coherent, but I nevertheless stand by it, while mentioning that OMG, I gave my own self a black eye yesterday while taking out the recycling container. I slipped on some wet leaves and the container tipped over, pinning me underneath, taking big divots out of the knuckles of my right hand, and slamming me on the eyebone with its sturdy handles. I tell you this to get sympathy, and to provide a pre-emptive excuse if my comment is lame: a teensy bit of brain damage, maybe. But at least the contents of the recycling container did not spill.

That’s a strange anecdote.

“I tell you this to get sympathy…”

Baaawwwwwww! Poor thing!

“But at least the contents of the recycling container did not spill.”

“I am Larkspur, hear me roar!”

As generally detestable as I tend to find this dipshit, I also think that it’s a reach to consider his use of the word “cocky” racist.

Let me repeat myself:

Tintin said,
January 29, 2010 at 15:10

I’m not trying to make the point that “cocky” is code for “uppity.” I just think his argument that it can’t be because Hans Solo used the word is gob-smackingly stupid. Of course, there is plenty of other evidence that Erickson is a racist dick.