The Hater You Play, The Player You Get
Posted on December 16th, 2009 by Gavin M.
Above: Not-distortions are unattacking
Matt Cover, CNS News:
FCC Official Says He’s Not Carrying Out ‘Secret Plot Funded by George Soros to Get Rid of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck’
- FCC chief diversity officer Mark Lloyd accuses a “right wing smear campaign” of distorting his words. Yet in his 2006 book, Prologue to a Farce: Communications and Democracy in America, Lloyd reveals an association with Lucifer, Father of Lies.
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Oooooh…constitutional cosplay.
I’ve got to go wake up the Mrs. for some concosplay.
Damn it Soros, you get right on that plot and make it true!
Man I cannot wait until it’s okay to reveal that Soros is just an animatronic.
Ah yes, Bozell butthurt. Never gets old. Prologue to a Farce: Communications and Democracy in America probably had a boobie picture in it and ZOMG. Also.
The Fairness Doctrine was an FCC regulation introduced in 1949 that said that if a broadcaster discussed an issue of public controversy on the air it needed to present opposing points of view on the issue. The rule effectively stifled vigorous debate of public policy on the airwaves.
Thank goodness that rule is gone, and we get vigorous debate all day long on Clear Channel stations across the nation.
Per digby we get this…
Trebek is so biased!
Thank goodness that rule is gone, and we get vigorous debate all day long on Clear Channel stations across the nation.
That’s debate in Neocon, as opposed to English. The Neocon word means “our side gets to say whatever we wish, while the other side gets to SHUT UP, THAT’S WHY”.
Neocon sounds like English, so it is easy to be confused.
Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™
OK, so even allowing that Lloyd might be lying, what’s the distinction the right wing draws between Lloyd/Soros and Richard Mellon Scaife/the Republicans in Congress under Clinton?
The Fairness Doctrine was an FCC regulation introduced in 1949 that said that if a broadcaster discussed an issue of public controversy on the air it needed to present opposing points of view on the issue. The rule effectively stifled vigorous debate of public policy on the airwaves.
What’s intriguing to me about this line of thinking is, the Fairness Doctrine became somewhat embodied in the reporting of news.
The trouble is, the Fairness Doctrine drew a clear distinction that *opinions* had to be rebutted by “Spokesmen with responsible, opposing viewpoints” but that facts stood as, well, facts.
Something that no longer happens.
what’s the distinction the right wing draws between Lloyd/Soros and Richard Mellon Scaife/the Republicans in Congress under Clinton?
Soros money bad, Scaife money good. Got it?
Soros money bad, Scaife money good. Got it?
I wish, but I get no wingnut money from either end of the spectrum.
This space IS for rent, guys!
The trouble is, the Fairness Doctrine drew a clear distinction that *opinions* had to be rebutted by “Spokesmen with responsible, opposing viewpoints” but that facts stood as, well, facts.
Facts, schmacts. I’ve got the biggest balls of all!
I’ve got the biggest balls of all!
I believe actor212 has something to say on that point.
I’ve got the biggest balls of all!
You call those raisins “balls”???
You’re mocking only proves their importance.
The more you mock the bigger they appear!
Well, to YOU, maybe.
Yes but do they hang low? Do they wobble to and fro? etc. etc.
Yes but do they hang low? Do they wobble to and fro?
Do you have that funny feeling,
That they’re walking on the ceiling?
Can you tie them in a knot? Can you tie them in a bow?
Yes but do they hang low? Do they wobble to and fro? etc. etc.
Actually, they’re bouncing.
All hail my bouncing balls!
Contrarianists may dispute their size but EVERYBODY must hail their bounciness.
Biggest Bouncing Balls in the Universe.
In fact, the Universe as you know actually fits in my left testicle.
I have risen from the dead.
~
In fact, the Universe as you know actually fits in my left testicle.
So are you saying that we are billions of tiny little sperm? Gross.
Yep, with room to spare!
In fact, the Universe as you know actually fits in my left testicle.
So the universe as the Wingnuts know it is in your right testicle? That it?
So the universe as the Wingnuts know it is in your right testicle? That it?
I have no fucking clue what Universe the Wingnuts are living in.
I have no fucking clue what Universe the Wingnuts are living in.
I think I can safely say that most of us here agree with you.
One wonders whether he could throw them over his shoulder like a Continental soldier.
Fear leads to hate. Hate leads to Spite. Spite leads you to the right testicle.
I think I can safely say that most of us here agree with you.
teh Universal Schlong is wise indeed.
I mean really? What kind of sad fucks whine about the Unfairness of “both sides having an equal chance to air opinions”?
In fact, the Universe as you know actually fits in my left testicle.
That explains the Milky Way, to be sure, but for certain throws considerable doubt on the Big Bang theory. With those raisins, how can you have a big bang?
They whinge and whinge about the liberal media, but given the chance to embrace a policy which would require the liberal media to air their views, they shriek in protest.
It’s almost as if they know the media is not actually biased against them!
That explains the Milky Way, to be sure, but for certain throws considerable doubt on the Big Bang theory.
And on a cosmological note, does FSM tickle when he darts around in there?
One wonders whether he could throw them over his shoulder like a Continental soldier.
Or closed them in his laptop or burned them on hot blacktop.
They whinge and whinge about the liberal media, but given the chance to embrace a policy which would require the liberal media to air their views, they shriek in protest.
::blink::
Why didn’t that occur to me earlier?
which is more powerful, the Universal Schlong or the CLENIS!!!???
which is more powerful, the Universal Schlong or the CLENIS!!!???
The Universal Dildo, starring Jean-Claude van Clamme.
Is the title of this post a Joe Walsh reference? Or am I inadvertently revealing my age here?
As opposed to the old FCC chairman who got his job entirely through nepotism?
Just a side note, did you know that George Soros is one of the world’s only native speakers of Esperanto?
Oh, I forgot to look at the endnotes. It’s too early to read small print.
Estas denaskaj Esperantoparolantoj?
Is the title of this post a Joe Walsh reference?
Whew. Thanks. I thought it was just me.
Is the title of this post a Joe Walsh reference?
I’d mercifully forgotten about him until you had to dredge up that memory. I think “Life’s Been Good” was possibly the most overplayed song of 1978.
Thanks.
America’s WHAT is under attack? OMG tell me tell me tell me I can’t take the suspense YOU’RE KILLING ME HERE. I hope it’s naughty.
[Humming away]
America’s WHAT is under attack?
Her…thingie.
In fact, the Universe as you know actually fits in my left testicle.
So are you saying that we are billions of tiny little sperm? Gross.
Hmm, I AM a pretty good swimmer…
What I like about good journalism is that it is informative.
Or maybe not.
That dastardly Ronald Reagan snuck into office without ANY DEBATE AT ALL.
I think “Life’s Been Good” was possibly the most overplayed song of 1978.
In my defense, I was really high most of the time.
Actually, come to think of it, I’m amazed the marketing moniker monkeys in the RNC haven’t found a way to rename the “Fairness doctrine” a la “death tax.” Usually they make that priority 1 in killing support for any policy, give it an unappealing name.
The “unfairness doctrine” is too obvious. The “Thought crime doctrine” might be up their alley.
“In fact, the Universe as you know actually fits in my left testicle.”
Do you know who else had only one testicle? Huh? Yeah, that’s right.
“The “unfairness doctrine” is too obvious. The “Thought crime doctrine” might be up their alley.’
If it ever were to actually, you know, have a snowball’s chance to be revived, Frank Luntz would be all over it.
Wow. Didn’t think the Lucifer thing was in the original, but… there you go. You really can Always Trust The Shorter(tm).
I thought they’d settled on “censorship doctrine.”
“The Joseph Goebbels Memorial doctrine”
The “SHUT UP! THAT’S WHY!” Doctrine.
That Lucifer comment is pretty amusing. You know they talk about dog-whistle politics, well this is dick-in-face politics – no code, no innuendo, just right out there with so-and-so is a devil-worshipper.
If it ever were to actually, you know, have a snowball’s chance to be revived, Frank Luntz would be all over it.
Ah, this is true, and probably a strong sign that no, they don’t actually believe it has any chance of being revived, but are cynically using it to shift the overton window, fundraise, sow fear, etc.
It’s also a nostalgic reminder of the Gipper’s days, when Movement Conservativism wasn’t quite as sophisticated and some smarter leftist strategy might have curtailed the gangrene before it spread everywhere in the body politic. Reagan just went and cancelled the doctrine, without a big PR campaign or invading some benighted country to justify it. Such simple times.
If Luntz got hold of it, it would get sanctified into something like “The Genuine American Values Doctrine”… and it would be demonically promoted by the usual assholes who’d claim that you were unAmerican if you opposed it.
George Soros owes me money. Pay up you fucking dead beat.
In my defense, I was really high most of the time.
In my defense, I was 11 years old and called it “The Electric Frog Song” because of that one solo.
did you guys catch me on charlie rose last night? wasn’t i dreamy? aren’t i the bees knees? i was all “whoomp there it is you down wit opp?” and everybody was all “swoon.” i’m moving cosmetically to the hard left AND continuing to pander to obama at the same time. AT THE SAME TIME, HOMEY. think it can’t be done? just watch me, chump. that’s why you’re not me, chump.
DAMNIT! Wake up, folks! Was I the only one at the meeting where Chairman Soros ordered us to keep quiet about the Satanism until after Reichsführer Ayers is installed as Chancellor? What is with some people?
Oh, and Allahu akbar!
guys guys guys i’m totally concerned that by being critical of obama we’re damaging the democratic party’s chances in the next elections. i mean honestly, how does it look when we fight with each other in front of company? we should all just suck it up and be good democrats.
oh and before anyone calls me a concern troll for my concerns regarding this concerning matter, let me preempt it by saying “OMG you’re all purity trolls! anyone who criticizes obama is a purity troll! ROFL LMAO.”
Show Me The Way.
There are a lot of higher targets than Klein on my radar. John Cole made a pretty compelling argument that even as weak sauce as Klein is being, he still is likely to get fired from the WaPo for the temerity of suggesting Holy Joe had low motives for his actions.
Are we better off without him? I’m open to the argument but a current believer.
BTW after 3 decades, I can honestly say that I don’t feel like you do.
Frankly, as long as the opposition chooses to use graphics that look like a gridlock/clusterfuck between about two dozen Geoshitties pages, I think we have nothing to worry about. I mean, the hell, people–someone who looks like Christina Aguilera with duck tape over her mouth, over Billy Dee Williams? What in internet hell?
I love the cognitive dissonance that goes into comparing the Fairness Doctrine to Naziism.while blaming everything the other political ideology says or does on the bankrolling conspiracies of an evil foreign J00.
>The Fairness Doctrine was an FCC regulation introduced in 1949 that said that if a broadcaster discussed an issue of public controversy on the air it needed to present opposing points of view on the issue. The rule effectively stifled vigorous debate of public policy on the airwaves.
Can anyone who’s not afraid to look tell me if he offers any explanation of how a rule that essentially necessitates debate could possibly stifle debate?
?_?
In Whiny-Ass-Titty-Babylyvania, the definition of “stifling debate” is “allowing liberals to publicly disagree with us”.
Republicans have opinions; Democrats have marching orders! and ideologies! and orthodoxies!
ZOMG that image — AIYEE! Scary Negroes!!!!1!!
This, BTW, is especially precious:
if a broadcaster discussed an issue of public controversy on the air it needed to present opposing points of view …. The rule effectively stifled vigorous debate
Because debates that present only one point of view are the most vigorous of all.
It’s the same logic that insists that a program that will guarantee everyone a basic level of access to medical care equals “rationing”, and “end of life counseling” = “death panels”. Or legislation to rein in abuses by large financial corporations = “Socialism”.
Any criticism of me violates my 1st ammendment rights. Why is that? Shut up!
Sarah Palin said,
Any criticism of me violates my 1st ammendment rights. Why is that? Shut up!
“I am Sarah, my own god” is your first commandment, but it’s not part of the Constitution.
Can anyone who’s not afraid to look tell me if he offers any explanation of how a rule that essentially necessitates debate could possibly stifle debate?
I don’t think he addresses that point specifically (I just scanned that stuff). But I think the general reasoning is that if broadcasters are forced to air opposing views, it’ll be easier for them to just avoid controversy.
In any case, even by wingnut standards, it’s a stupid and irrelevant argument. The Fairness Doctrine made sense when over-the-air broadcasting was the only way to get news quickly. There were cases where network-affiliated TV stations in the Deep South refused to air network news and other shows that touched on the civil rights struggle. The reasoning was that the airwaves belonged to the public, the government had to issue a license and allocate a spectrum to anyone who wanted to broadcast, and so the government had an interest in seeing that the news was covered fairly.
Now, of course, with the proliferation of non-airwaves media, it’s pretty much impossible to buy up all the broadcast rights in a region and dictate what news people see and hear. That’s why a return to the Fairness Doctrine is about as likely as death panels.
“…if a broadcaster discussed an issue of public controversy on the air it needed to present opposing points of view …. The rule effectively stifled vigorous debate…”
This is true because Repigs will never have an honest debate with anyone. They know they’ll be publicly humiliated, and being yellow thru-and-thru, they keep quite rather than “debating” their insane opinions.
grrr… they keep quiet. I’m not sure what keeping quite is.
Someone mention Sarah Palin?
Two things you didn’t know about the snowbilly princess – (1) don’t talk to her unless she talks to you first; (2) no tomatoes to be sold in the same store she is frequenting.
Really. Also.
It’s the fucking Crucible
I saw Mark Lloyd with the devil! I saw George Soros with the devil! I saw Barack Obama with the devil!
Seriously, that’s what they’ve sunk to. Quoting the fucking Crucible, most likely by accident of course.
apropos of nothing:
http://gop.am/TCEy
yes, it’s back.
If the fairness doctrine was in place, she would also have been belted with a tom-ah-to.
Next they’ll come for the eggs, and pretty soon small canned goods… Anything that could be thrown will be stripped from store shelves.
Clearly there should be no genuine fur coats allowed into Sarah Palin’s presence, for fear that she could be tomatoed with a pelt.
But I think the general reasoning is that if broadcasters are forced to air opposing views, it’ll be easier for them to just avoid controversy.
You mean…they’d actually report facts and let us decide?
Next they’ll come for the eggs, and pretty soon small canned goods… Anything that could be thrown will be stripped from store shelves.
Better start moving in the punkin chunkin cannons…
Can’t see how it could be intentional. That’d require them to have read a book or seen a play.
Two things you didn’t know about the snowbilly princess…
Ok, considering the fucking fracas the wingnuts make over Clinton’s imaginary haircut closing an airport, that story should be bookmarked by all us libs.
You mean…they’d actually report facts and let us decide?
I don’t think it’s quite that simple, Actor. Interpretation and opinion are important aspects of news gathering. Would you want to read a newspaper that had no columns, no editorials, no forum at all in which someone was permitted to say what he or she thought about the news?
In any case, it’s a moot point. The Fairness Doctrine is deader than a RadioShack Tandy, and it’s not coming back. Another victim of the Intertooobz.
Poor Jeff “Swallow” Goldstein at Protein Wisdom.
You know things are getting ugly when your feud with a fellow wingnut is picked up by James Wolcott
That’s odd to think about, because the site of the actual 1692 courthouse is a 30-second walk from here. It’s now a Masonic temple, which is adjacent to a combination Thai restaurant and Goth nightclub, which is next to a shop that specializes in smoking accessories…
Interpretation and opinion are important aspects of news gathering. Would you want to read a newspaper that had no columns, no editorials, no forum at all in which someone was permitted to say what he or she thought about the news?
If I run a newspaper, I’m obliged to print letters to the editor, usually. In fact, that’s often the reason many people read my editorial pages.
Analysis? Yes. Interpretation? Yes. Opinion? Has no business in a news report, and if someone does editorialize, it should be clearly noted as such (indeed, back in the Dark Ages, when the FD was in effect, news channels were obliged to tack on a subtitle indicating an opinion was being proferred).
Opinions have their place in news reporting, to be sure. When Walter Cronkite came out and said the Vietnam War was lost, he changed America. But it was clearly distinguished from his reporting the stories that led him to that conclusion.
And no, no one expects every single reporter to just submit a list of facts: The fire took place. At a two-story building. At 100 Main Street. Seven firefighters were…
But it would be nice if, instead of “he said, then HE said” types of reporting, a reporter said something along the lines of, “This is what we know has happened. On top of that, this person believes, while that person believes…”
Yep, all good Lucifer-loving Libs know that there’s no better way to “stifle vigorous debate” than with opposing points of view, alrighty! Besides, faithful FOX NEWS viewers know that a highly scientific Moral-Majority-funded single-bind study has “proven” that multiple points of view cause cancer of the toenails & will make 10 out of 9 pregnant women give birth to shoggoths & wyverns, which is why America-haters keep trying to foist them on helpless Americans.
Indeed, America’s intellectual calibre was being just as stifled as debate – until Saint Reagan Of Bitburg rode in on Bonzo, waving his Magic Deregulation Wand, & saved the day. Who can ever forget that golden moment in the early 80s when the reasonable & highly-respected academic Morton Downey Jr. got his own TeeVee show? Televised debate finally had the Gold Standard it had been so sorely lacking with shrill leftist demagogues like Edward Murrow & Walter Cronkite – & popular culture has done nothing but grow more & more, ah, cultured ever since.
Two things you didn’t know about the snowbilly princess
3) Plus she stiffs people on their bills.
OOPS, everyone already knew that. Never mind.
Why did I doubt the Shorter?! Please, Shorter, forgive me! I just couldn’t possibly believe he actually mentioned Lucifer — but he did!
Always Trust The Shorter. Always.
Goldstein (from actor212):
How’s he going to “break their fucking ankles?” Biting them? Honestly, stupidest “threat” ever, from a guy who is literally begging to be turned into a pile of human mush.
Internet toughguys are so…compelling.
No, the general reasoning is that conservatives were never allowed to say anything ever before 1987. Therefore we had eight years of filthy hippie Reaganism.
Obviously the Fairness Doctrine will force us to listen to both kinds of bad opinions: the ones from dirty hippies and the ones from snobby elitists.
Dear Gavin:
Go read Charles Rowley.
http://charlesrowley.wordpress.com/
Here are some Republicans who have mastered the new technology.
Top Arizona Republican Accused of Using Voter Database to Stalk Woman
Who wants to take bets on whether or not Jeff Goldstein – and has he got a job yet?- has actually ever been in a serious physical confrontation much less beaten anyone’s ass? Notice he says he would beat ass, not that he does or has. I say no and I’m giving 10-1 odds.
In ref. to Charles Rowley (I’m not Gavin, but I read it anyway):
Why do all these cretins react to suggestions there might be a few too many people on the planet as a call for mass executions, rather than a suggestion that not everyone needs to have five or six offspring?
Man, Tom Coburn just really pissed off the Democrats making the Senate read aloud the Socialist from Vermont’s amendment (it could have taken until midnight, lol) He’s so pissed, I love it!
How’s he going to “break their fucking ankles?” Biting them?
Well, see, when he’s bent over to accomodate them….
Yes, it’s true: the troll is gleeful that the legislative process has become a playground for the ignorant.
I’m insured and I don’t want it to change
So you’d prefer to see tens of millions of Americans…white, black, working class…you know, your neighbors…die or go bankrupt each year just so you can be incrementally hosed by the insurance companies?
I fail to see the logic behind that line of thinking…
Troofie lieks teh buttsecks from the Big Hosed HMO, it appears.
Well, he’s a hateful, small-minded asshole. We should probably count our blessings such things keep him away from grade-school playgrounds and stray animals.
Make ’em read all the amendments! All the bills! The American people need to hear every sentence of every bill. It’s a great strategy to slow Washington down!
And it really pissed off Bernie Marxist Sanders.
Well, he’s a hateful, small-minded asshole.
Based on his support for Death Panels, I think Troofie is more of a big-assholed mind.
Tom Coburn is a brilliant strategist and we have a new strategy to bring down what’s left of Obamacare:
READ THE WHOLE THING!
So can we soon expect Palin to insist that all attendees at her events come barefoot?
Someone on one of the older threads wished Troofie a debilitating cancer.
Me, I’d rather he developed some horrific communicable disease, like, say, smallcox.
Oh. I’m sorry. He seems to have contracted that…
Why do all these cretins react to suggestions there might be a few too many people on the planet as a call for mass executions…
It’s not just the righties who do that. I’ve made the observation on a handful of lefty blogs that if every country would make a commitment to halving their populations via incentives such as adequate food, education, and medical care for the single child of each couple, it would do more to combat global warming as well as a host of other problems than anything else we could do. I’ve gone beyond that to note that halving the population of the developed nations would have the biggest impact we can hope to have, which is why our close-to-zero population growth rates aren’t enough to cut it.
And invariably, some leftier-than-thou purist will accuse me of demanding that undeveloped countries shoulder the whole burden, apparently because they can’t read.
Slippy, are you suggesting there might be an Iraqi journalist covering her?
That’s why a return to the Fairness Doctrine is about as likely as death panels.
Well crap, NOW what am I going to put on the walls in the library?
Go read Charles Rowley.
The man claims to eat roast beef with horseradish, Grey Poupon, AND gravy. That alone has to move him to the top of the cull list.
This health care bill is 100s of pages long, it weighs several pounds, what are they trying to hide?
Read the whole thing!
The man claims to eat roast beef with horseradish, Grey Poupon, AND gravy.
He had me until “gravy”. Maybe the Grey Poupon. I like horse radish mustard.
Also pie. Also.
Heh. He thinks reading is hard.
He thinks reading is hard.
For him it is.
If you’re looking for something to tell you that the band in question is composed of nearly notable former members of various bands, or how many jam sessions the drummer sat in on with rock superstars who are now dead or disabled, or retired, forget it. Unless the names Mother’s Milk, Middle Earth, or the Revolting Tunes Revue ring any particular bells, where the people who make up this band called Boston came from is irrelevant to who and where they are now.
LISTEN TO THE RECORD!
Gawd you are an idiot. Sanders is on the floor of the Senate right now speaking on his own behalf, and yes, the bill just got read into the record. That means it can be referred back to and proudly by its author. What more, it means that the debate about single-payer has now started. Sanders is saying that, not now, but soon, we are going to HAVE to have single-payer.
Only a mush-headed fucktard like you (or a Republican politician) thinks that governing in the sunlight is a disaster. The rest of us are thankful that Bernie is capturing the Senate’s attention for today with his bill, as it fucking well needs to be read out loud.
Over, and over, and over and over again. The truth is like a tenderizing hammer between your stupid eyes, and you’re so cross-eyed and disoriented from it that you don’t even know that what you think is a catastrophe is in fact exactly what the rest of us want: A FUCKING RATIONAL DISCUSSION OF THIS ISSUE.
Didn’t the Republicans threaten this once before only to have it backfire on them when Pelosi threatened to hire a guy who can speedread 100 a minute or so do the reading, thus cutting it to like an hour?
I’m sure Reid has his phone number now.
You do realize, Troofus, that the reason the bill is OVER NINE THOUSAND! pages is because of all the favors and loopholes they had to slip in there to please your beloved corporate masters? If you want a simple bill, I’ve got one right here.
Actor, I merely am following the arc of possible items that can be thrown at an unpopular dolt whose political career is in ashes. Tomatoes, squash, watermelons, and SHOES.
I mean, just about everybody is wearing a pair, at least some of the day. It stands to reason that most people in cold weather at a large event like this are going to be shod.
Bernie Sanders had “Medicare for everyone” and his amendment would still take days to read out loud. Another symbol of the inefficency of government.
BTW, I read 800 wpm. I should call Reid and ask him if he wants me to read the bill for ’em. I’ve read a whole novel onto tape. It was an 18-hour recording when I was done.
Slippy, that’s a good point.
Perhaps the best way to flesh out the true Palin voter is to make her rallies all outdoors AND clothing optional.
It would probably pollute the environment, to be sure, but it would stop any reasonable person from ever voting for Palin.
Haha, we’ll never have single payer. You’re deluded, Actor. The corporations hold all the cards.
The constitution is full of long words like “apportionment” and “emoluments” and “adjournment.” What were the founders trying to hide???? HMMMMM????
What more, it means that the debate about single-payer has now started. Sanders is saying that, not now, but soon, we are going to HAVE to have single-payer.
From your words to God’s/Fate’s/FSM’s ears, Slippy!!!
The Constitution takes 10, maybe 15 minutes to read. That’s because
The Founders believed in small government. Tom Coburn follows in the tradition of The Founders, NOT Bernie Sanders.
Another symbol of the inefficency of
governmentthe Republicans in Congress.Fixed
The Constitution takes 10, maybe 15 minutes to read. That’s because The Founders believed in small government.
The Founders never intended for any more laws to be passed after the Constitution was ratified?
The corporations hold all the cards.
And your button-popping proud of the fact that the United States is no longer “We the People,” but “We, the People, Inc”
Sad.
The corporations hold all the cards.
Yup. And you’re PROUD of that fact.
You’re GLAD to have your doctor’s decisions subject to a veto by bean-counters.
You ENJOY paying one-third of your insurance premiums to the companies’ profit margins.
You ENDORSE denial of claims.
You, for one, WELCOME our corporate overlords
Yet for some reason, you don’t understand why no one takes your opinions seriously.
Any law that is 100s, maybe 1000s of pages should not be passed until it is fully read aloud.
Nothing makes a lib more mad than a successful corporation raking in the big bucks!
Poor little Troofie. He’s working extra hard scrounging for the scraps that Longshanks…I mean, his corporate overseers leave behind, when I want all Americans to enjoy the freedom from corporatocracy and plutocracy.
FREEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus must be spinning in his grave every time Troofie pretends to be a pious Christian
Hey, how long was the USA PATRIOT Act?
You’re not even going to get a bill at all. Not even the watered one down Howard Dean is even calling to kill.
Republicans have been brilliant the entire time, with big assists from Lieberman and Nelson. I love it! Obstruct, obstruct, obstruct.
The USA PATRIOT Act still hasn’t been repealed by your Messiah.
Any law that is 100s, maybe 1000s of pages should not be passed until it is fully read aloud.
Where is that mentioned in the U.S. Constitution?
I’ll give you 10 to 15 minutes to find it. Hell, it probably takes you 15 minutes just to read the Preamble.
“I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed
corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a
trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”
Thomas Jefferson, 1812
That quote is a fabrication. Just like the one with Lincoln talking about corporations is a fabrication. Fakes made by libs. Google it.
Permission to treat the witness as hostile?
Is it not true that the USA PATRIOT Act ran 342 pages?
And was it ever actually read into the record?
And did you make any complaint about this fact at the time?
Corporations hold all the cards
“The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history,
whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite.”
-Thomas Jefferson
“The government that governs best, governs least”
Thomas Jefferson
Big government taking over healthcare is not “governing lest”.
Jefferson was speaking about the big government elites, not successful private individuals.
… there’s always some nasty-ass troll to spoil the fun:
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December 16, 2009 at 8:29 pm | Reply
The irony of this post is that Oliver Twist’s horrendous plight was due in no small part to the severe overcrowding (i.e. overpopulation) of the slums that typified the early Industrial Revolution in England … & then you reload & take aim at the OTHER foot with the tried-&-true “Zero Population Growth = Teh Final Solution” nonsense.
Every time someone dares to suggest that we’re overpopulating the planet, some helpful genius immediately brings up Hitler or Stalin (a brilliant response, after all, since no such things as family-planning or contraception exist) … thanks for doing your part to snatch stupidity from the jaws of reason.
Helpful Hint: your resorting to false analogy, ad hominem & strawman arguments don’t exactly make for a rock-solid case here.
But then, the alternative involves actually refuting the statements you cite with crazy little things called facts – & other than your sincere love of beef & gravy, you seem rather short on them.
Honestly! How can poor Mr. Rowley possibly enjoy his roast-beef with such vile comments appearing out of nowhere & spoiling his appetite? THE NERVE.
“Governing yourself” means freedom from big government control.
Troofie loves having the highest health care costs in the world and higher local taxes paying for indigent ER services. I don’t think we could have wished for a better troll!
Point to where the Founders expressed a “small government” philosophy in print outside of the Constitution. Do you have an attribution?
If I treat you like a degree-seeking academic, Troofie, you’re going to get an F——————————————————– due to your sloppy research and for-shit interpretations of things you don’t understand, because you don’t do the research, because you don’t even understand how to do research.
You won’t even be able to point to certain cherry-picked comments from people who weren’t integral to the process that supported some kind of big-government/small-government dichotomy because of course no such debate existed in the late 1700’s when the Constitution was being framed. Instead you’re more likely to find a lot of Enlightenment-era liberalism contrasted with the tail end of Royalism and the Divine Rights nonsense that was the REAL tyrrany the founders were fighting against, and most of what you see will confuse the shit out of you because it’s all packed in there with the buzzwords you idiots fling around without any context or comprehension.
Shorter slippytoad: shut the fuck up about things you flat-out don’t understand.
Corporations hold all the cards
Merchants have no country.
– Thomas Jefferson
The Founders were fighting against the high taxes and big government policies of Great Britain, slippy.
Corporations hold all the cards
Material abundance without character is the path of destruction.
-Thomas Jefferson
The Founders were fighting against the high taxes and big government policies of Great Britain, slippy.
Bzzt! Wrong!
Does “Taxation without Representation” ring a bell?
Anything that doesn’t fit into my pre-conceived notions I ignore or lie about! Like my sexy hero Glen Beck!
Does “Taxation without Representation” ring a bell?
Horrors! You mean to imply the Founders *liked* government, so long as they had a voice in it?
And certainly, thirteen colonies IS a far bigger government than one king, to be sure.
That quote is a fabrication. Just like the one with Lincoln talking about corporations is a fabrication. Fakes made by libs. Google it.
LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thomas Jefferson wrote in a to George Logan:[9]
I hope we shall… crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our government in a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
^ “Favorite Jefferson Quotes From the Writings of Thomas Jefferson”. University of Virginia’s Thomas Jefferson Digital Archive. http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff5.htm. Retrieved 2009-02-09.
See, Troofie? I even provided you with the long form vault copy of the letter! 😀
BEEG SHMILE! BEEG SHMILE!
It means that you have representation in the government, fool.
One of the consequent realizations that most intelligent people have to the concept of “Democracy,” otherwise known as majority rule, is that the majority gets to decide the rules. That’s what happens when 51% of the people make a choice and the other 49% have to live with it. Elections have CONSEQUENCES.
There are, or were, protections in our system for people who didn’t agree with the majority. These were mostly laid out in the Bill of Rights, which Republitards like yourself vandalized and scratched out all of the inconvenient shit regarding privacy and the right to voice one’s opinion. Those protections are mostly gone and I only have YOU and YOUR STUPID MOVEMENT to point at and laugh at as the huge rents you and your stumblefuck party tore through it now cause hue and cry and havoc and alarm. The only one of the 10 that conservatives have ever shown any respect for is the one that is the LEAST useful to you now, as the US military will never let you fuckwits have tanks or nuclear weapons.
But to return to my point: you had your chance to vote, and your opinions were duly noted but they did not prevail electorally.
You can accept the results of a valid election or you can just shit the whole system down the toilet like a shreiking toddler having a massive temper tantrum (which is exactly what conservatives have been doing for the last 11 months) and declare that it doesn’t count because it didn’t go your way. Mostly you only make yourself look like a stupid asshole and a majorly sore loser (and a HUGE LOSER at that), but as more and more people call into question the legitimacy of the system itself, we creep ever closer to anarchy.
I’m not sure you’re intelligent or prescient enough to grasp what happens then. If our government loses all significance you will be at the whim of whoever the biggest, most well-armed bully in your immediate surroundings happens to be. I can guarantee you, Troofie, today’s Republicans are such a bunch of sniveling chickenshits that they’re not going to be the vanguard of the new leadership of our 3rd world state. They’ll be lined up against a concrete wall and shot dead in fairly short order and nobody will even remember who they were in a year.
Except to note that a bunch of ragged shrieking maniacs helped turn this nation over to thugs and criminals.
All things being equal if you had any sense at all you’d shut your mouth and respect our Democratic process. But you’re a conservative teabagger, which means you’ve got no more sense than God gave a dingleberry on my cat’s ass-hair.
So Troofie would prefer to see tens of millions of Americans…white, black, working class…you know, his neighbors…die or go bankrupt each year just so he can be incrementally hosed by the insurance companies?
I fail to see the logic behind that line of thinking…
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The fact is, that is how it should be and it is awesome. USA rules.
The fact is, at least it is MY CHOICE. My “neighbors” are not my problem, they should work harder like I did.
My “neighbors” are not my problem, they should work harder like I did.
And yet, their taxes pay to protect you….
just so he can be incrementally hosed by the insurance companies?
From this sentence fragment, I can see Troofie’s motivation, Actor. Just not the “incrementally” part.
The fact is, you edited the “not” out of it. And this is from liberal bias sources.
And Gary, you have no problem giving your money to an HMO so that they can choose when you die?
How can poor Mr. Rowley possibly enjoy his roast-beef with such vile comments appearing out of nowhere & spoiling his appetite?
A couple more ladles of dijon horseradish gravy and he’ll hardly notice. Another box of your freshest wine, Garkon!
The fact is, what’s wrong with someone making a buck? Coveting and taking that buck is socialism and theft. That’s what liberals try to do. Take what I worked for and give it to the undeserving? Not without a fight.
And this is from liberal bias sources.
UVA? Which owns Jefferson’s actual archives?
So you’re saying Thomas Jefferson was a liberal.
Well, that’s the first intelligent thing you’ve said in the five years I’ve known you, Gary!
Hmm … one of those comments up there has a certain familiarity to it. I wonder why?
“Haha, we’ll never have fire. You’re deluded, Alley Oop. The volcanoes hold all the cards.”
“Haha, we’ll never have circumnavigation. You’re deluded, Magellan. The invisible sky-wizard holds all the cards.”
“Haha, we’ll never have desegregation. You’re deluded, Reverend King. The Klansmen hold all the cards.”
“Haha, we’ll never have Medicare. You’re deluded, liberals. Ronald Reagan holds all the cards.”
“Haha, we’ll never have a trial over that little Watergate Hotel flap. You’re deluded, national media. President Nixon holds all the cards.”
Great minds “think” alike?
Coveting and taking that buck is socialism and theft.
So you work for free.
Good to know.
From this sentence fragment, I can see Troofie’s motivation, Actor. Just not the “incrementally” part.
Given what the HMOs have done to insurance these past eight years, “incrementally” was probably inaccurate.
The fact is, I can pay for my health care myself. I will not be shaken down for someone else’s care by liberal bureacary. That’s socialism.
And Gary, you have no problem giving your money to an HMO so that they can choose when you die?
The fact is, at least I can choose it on the free market.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Right, because the Congressional anti-trust exemptions insurance companies have that force them NOT to compete with each other is truly “laissez-faire”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
No they weren’t, stupid. You don’t know what they were fighting against because you don’t read and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Go do your homework and shut up until you’ve read at least 300 pages on this topic. From a REPUTABLE historian who has ACADEMIC credentials, not some brain-dead screed off Glenn Beck’s reading list.
The fact is, I can pay for my health care myself.
Ah, but you don’t.
Your insurance is based on the risk pool for your entire group. Including all the uninsured. So you already pay for the people who you claim you don’t care about, but your insurance company is holding an unfair amount back in monopoly profits.
But nice try, Gary. I thought you knew something about economics, but I was wrong to credit you with that.
following the
arcparabola of possible items that can be thrown at an unpopular dolt whose political career is in ashes.Fixed for pedantry.
Tomatoes, squash, watermelons, and SHOES.
And souvenir models of Milan Cathedral.
Really? How much does it cost on that “free” market? And, after you’ve bought it, is the coverage you got on that “free” market of any value to you? Or will it be rescinded the moment you come down with the flu? Or are found to have lupus or diabetes and they comb through your medical records and discover a case of acne you had when you were 13 that is now a pre-existing condition.
You reveal your blithering, butt-headed ignorance of how things work for adults by such knock-brained statements. Any adult who works for a living knows that insurance “on the free market” is a disaster and horrifically expensive. Most of us prefer insurance through our employer because it’s cheaper, but not by much anymore, and if we lose our jobs we also lose our insurance.
It’s your failure to understand these basic concepts that makes me think we’re debating a bunch of small children who have accidentally locked themselves in Daddy’s office and are playing with his computer.
Does this “free market” allow me to buy prescription drugs from another country?
The fact is, the free market hates it when you take it at its word.
Re: Sarah Palin pooing on Salt Lake City pubbies – I’m glad to hear that she hasn’t learned anything about PR. If she’s pissed off the Republicans here in Salt Lake City, she can piss them off anywhere.
Ach! The dog is growling at the computer again.
Troofie: Closet, address.
souvenir models of Milan Cathedral.
Veiled – nay, swaddled – BOOBY reference.
Tomatoes, squash, watermelons, and SHOES.
And souvenir models of
Milan CathedralThe Bridge To Nowhere.Fixed for context.
I’m glad to hear that she hasn’t learned anything about PR. If she’s pissed off the Republicans here in Salt Lake City, she can piss them off anywhere.
Those would be Establishment Repubs she pissed off. The “Real American” Teabagging Repubs are solidly in her corner no matter what she does.
So, is it my imagination, or did Troofus actually turn into Gary Ruppert right before my eyes? Anyway…
Of all the problems with our system, this is the one that bugs me the most. Why are these denials not prosecuted as fraud? Health insurance is based on a simple contract: “You pay the premiums, we pay the medical bills.” But when time comes for the insurer to make good on its end of the bargain, suddenly it finds every excuse to weasel out of the deal. “Oh, my medical history makes me uninsurable? Great. Couldn’t you have figured that out before I gave you that fuckton of money?”
Hey no one said the free market didn’t cost anything.
This is an excellent way to cause further political harm to the Democrats at the expense of our men and women overseas. Republicans everywhere should puff out their chests in pride, pride so great that we shall swoon and require smelling salts to recover from it.
In the meantime who cares about the troops? We’re scoring points against Democrats. Teh Troopsies will understand, because they’re all Republicans. Aren’t they?
Indeed, I think if we can’t get anywhere with this deliberate shipwreck of a shit bill, maybe 100,000,000 Americans can join together in a class-action suit against AHIP.
I like how the Harry Reid spokesman totally spun it, basically saying that the Republicans are the grinch who stole the troops’ Christmas. More of this please.
Hey no one said the free market didn’t cost anything.
Yeah, but if a job can be sent overseas, then surely I can drive to Canada to buy cheaper pharmaceuticals my doctor prescribed and…
Oh wait, there I go bringing up logic again.
The “Real American” Teabagging Repubs are solidly in her corner no matter what she does.
Good point. I keep forgetting there’s a difference between the lumpenpubbies and the puppetmasters – though to be fair to me, here in Utah the difference isn’t much.
You won’t even be able to point to certain cherry-picked comments from people who weren’t integral to the process that supported some kind of big-government/small-government dichotomy because of course no such debate existed in the late 1700’s when the Constitution was being framed.
Back then, If I recall correctly, corporations existed by state licenses, and could be dissolved at the government’s whim. (Presumably, they still COULD, but never WILL.)
So Troofie would prefer to see tens of millions of Americans…white, black, working class…you know, his neighbors…die or go bankrupt each year just so he can be incrementally hosed by the insurance companies?
I fail to see the logic behind that line of thinking…
For reasons I’d rather not speculate on “Corporations GOOD, Government BAD” seems to be the thought-prevention mantra of the right-wing.
Also, there’s the pervasive but rarely-stated right-wing dogma that poor people must be evil, or else God wouldn’t be punishing them so much.
The fact is, I can pay for my health care myself. I will not be shaken down for someone else’s care by liberal bureacary. That’s socialism.
“Got Mine, Fuck y’All”, eh? Truly a heartwarming display of patriotism. 😛
Actually, you will be paying anyway, when those sick people drag themselves to the hospital emergency room and give a fake name, and the hospital has to make up the loss somewhere else. Damn those filthy poor for not dying in the gutters like God and Reagan intended!
My suggestion is to have John Moschitta Jr (the fast-talking guy from the old Micromachines commercials) read the amendments. Or, to tell them to go fuck themselves.
Oh wait, there I go bringing up logic again.
Why do you hate Freedom™?
My suggestion is to have John Moschitta Jr (the fast-talking guy from the old Micromachines commercials) read the amendments. Or, to tell them to go fuck themselves.
I vote the Cheney Method.
So I found something disturbing while looking up that Jefferson quote. It’s a legitimate quote from his letters, but he habitually used “it’s” when he should have used “its”!
yikes
Doctorb,
In Jefferson’s day, “its” = “it’s” and “it’s” = “tis” (had to be careful typing that last bit)
Tis the season, after all…
I say we bring back “’tis”! Who’s with me?!?!?!?!!!?
I’m in. And while we’re at it, I’m still pissed over the loss of “thee”, “thou”, and “ye.” ‘Tis a grammatical travesty that English can’t distinguish number and case in the second person.
I seem to remember troofie ran away squealing yesterday after I demonstrated Canadians get an empirically better health care system for far less money.
Even troofie’s predictable appeal to racism as the cause (those silly darkies just die too quickly) proved to be insufficient as Canadian whites live longer than American whites (and ditto for blacks too), and have done so since the 1970s. By coincidence I’m sure, Canada got true universal health care in 1966 with the Medicare care act.
but don’t worry, some Canadian lady hurt her knee and had to book an MRI in buffalo, so I guess that’s enough to rest easy in the knowledge that socialized health care is an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions.
‘Tis a grammatical travesty that English can’t distinguish number and case in the second person.
Ye wud nae be thuh fust one ta thenk thet, Androo!
Can we bring back the “f” for the first “s” in a word?
That would be fo cool!
Tell that to the 80% of people over 40* who get all their news from the one regional paper and the two local news channels and the three local hate-radio blatherers, all of which are ultimately owned by the same parent company.
You may get all your news from the internet, and so might I, but my parents and my older coworkers couldn’t gather news online if they wanted to (which they don’t).
*okay, so numbers are ass-pulled of course, but I’m of the opinion that they’re probably within the ballpark.
That would be ƒo cool!
sixed.
Read the Whole Thing said,
December 16, 2009 at 21:59
So did troofie just out himself as St. Instapoodle or am I reading too much into this?
“The fact is, I can pay for my health care myself. I will not be shaken down for someone else’s care”
Never mind that you already DO pay for others’ care indirectly via America’s whackadoodle “ER as walk-in clinic for the uninsured” system … or that your “coverage” is awesome, as long as you never do anything crazy like get hurt or ill … how much do you pay a month?
Canadians pay about $50 – & everyone’s covered. 100%. Period.
No jive with pre-existing conditions, no recission, no “sure, you paid in enough to cover your bills twenty times over, but this clause says we only have to pay 50% – enjoy your impending bankruptcy, LOL” … the only things Canadians ever wind up paying an extra penny for are the odd ambulance ride or non-essential frills.
If other folks get far more while paying far less, what does that say about how healthcare works in The Magical Free Market?
Adam Smith wept.
Hold alt and type 159 in windows (I don’t know what Macs do for the upper ascii chars) to get the ƒ “long s” as it was known.
I say we join it to “its” and have some real good fun.
“Tits the season to be Jolly. Lalalalala!”
Can we bring back the “f” for the first “s” in a word?
That would be fo cool!
That would totally fuck.
I say we join it to “its” and have some real good fun.
Now that’s concatenation and copulation I can believe in.
Holy cow, it workƒ!
To be honest, Canada’s system is far from the best. From what I can tell France, Japan and Taiwan have much better systems than us. We’re just a lot better than America’s system is all I would like to say.
I spend so much time defending the Cdn model from the dumb capitalist cultist attacks, I haven’t really given enough thought to why some other models end up working even better. Though one thing I suspect is that we bleed too many physicians to the US where they can make 7 figures and end up subsidizing the American system, whereas French med students would be a lot less likely to want to move to the States.
So does this mean I can change his name now to “Truƒƒ”?
There’s also these guys: æ Æ
Which are useful if you want to note that troofus is probably a pædofile.
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I was in the kitchen when an odor most foul and foetid assaulted me. Yumpin Yiminy, I shouted, the toilet’s exploded and there’s sewage gushing into my house! When racing down the hallway to inspet the catastrophe I realized the smell was coming not from the toidy but from the office. Oh, I sighed, Troofie must be back.
Troofie, time to avail yourself of that alleged insurance – the shit is leaking, profusely, from your head.
ƒuffering ƒuckotash!
This health care bill is 100s of pages long, it weighs several pounds, what are they trying to hide?
Read the whole thing!
For some reason I’m having this flashback to the pushing of the Patriot Act. I think I’ll write a patriotic country song called “Have You Forgotten?”
Anyone know what this one is for?
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nevermind it doesn’t show up properly, it’s supposed to be “Pts” but crammed together into one ascii symbol.
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Type size?
This health care bill is 100s of pages long, it weighs several pounds, what are they trying to hide?
The unabridged English dictionary is thousands of pages long. Tell me, Mirriam-Webster, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HIDE?
ƒ on da Mac is option “f”.
It’ƒ in preview, let’ƒ ƒee if thiƒ workƒ.
It workƒ!!
Truƒƒ iƒ fulla ƒhit
Tell me, Mirriam-Webster, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HIDE?
She’s my sister AND my daughter!
I must be a moran, because I can’t get it to work.
According to the Google, Pts is pesetas.
So does this mean I can change his name now to “Truƒƒ”?
A painful hernia would explain a lot. And it would be a “pre-existing condition”. Alaƒ.
Oh, excuƒe me.
ƒhe’s my ƒister AND my daughter!
ƒhe’s my ƒister AND my daughter!
ƒtrange family you got there. Juƒt ƒayin’,
ƒtrange family you got there. Juƒt ƒayin’,
ƒadly, yeƒ.
PENIƒ
Ah ha! I am ƒtupid.
Más que un duro.
ƒeriously, folkƒ, can we pleaƒe ƒtop the ƒilly ƒcript and focuƒ on the ƒpecific ƒubject at iƒƒue?
ƒupposedly, we’re ƒpeaking about accuƒationƒ of a diverƒity boƒƒ’ƒ aƒƒociationƒ with ƒoroƒ’ƒ ƒatanic ƒympathieƒ.
Pleaƒe diƒcuƒƒ amongƒt yourƒelveƒ.
I’m reading these poƒtƒ in ƒylvester the Cat’ƒ voice.
ƒmart, aƒ that’ƒ preciƒely the way everyone ƒpoke back in the dayƒ of Waƒhington and Jefferƒon.
Alexander Hamilton talked more like Porky Pig.
Th-th-th-th-that’s your economy, folks!
Bookmark thiƒ libƒ! You’ll be wonder how the hell I waƒ able to do thiƒ.
Am I wrong to think of Burr aƒ Bugƒ Bunny?
Why are these denials not prosecuted as fraud? Health insurance is based on a simple contract: “You pay the premiums, we pay the medical bills.” But when time comes for the insurer to make good on its end of the bargain, suddenly it finds every excuse to weasel out of the deal. “Oh, my medical history makes me uninsurable? Great. Couldn’t you have figured that out before I gave you that fuckton of money?”
Well, that’s the beauty of it for them. Because, see, when you put in that claim for treatment of an expensive yet totally randomly occurring ailment you’ve suddenly suffered, they root through your records and discover that back in 1965 you were treated for acne or excema or had a broken toe, and suddenly they can claim YOU were fraudulent, misrepresenting your history, so they drop you for your fraudulence, not your uninsurability.
Of course, if you try to buy a new policy they refuse you because of your medical history. So it works out either way for them.
You know, bringing up the USAPATRIOT Act doesn’t really work for me, because that was a complete and unmitigated piece of ƒhit. Of courƒe it was intended to be, but still …
“Fred Hampton said,
December 16, 2009 at 20:25
apropos of nothing:
http://gop.am/TCEy
yes, it’s back.”
There are horses and dogs. WTF?
Your preciouƒ independence iƒ deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed!!!!!!! Haha, we’ll never have independence. You’re all deluded. The king holdƒ all the cardƒ.
Here iƒ how it will go Downe next Weeke. Firƒt, ye Resultes from Trenton and Princeton will come in, and they’ll be declared for ye Heƒsians. You’ll be sore aggrieved, butte “no bigge Deale, Change can’t come over-night” will be your comment. Ridgefield will go Redcoate, and a little Nervouƒneƒs will creepe in. The usual Suspecteƒ will fall into the usual Categories. As ye War drags on, Vermont, New York, and (much to your Horror) Pennƒylvania will be too Close to call.
My advice at this Pointe to you will be “earlie to Bedde”. You will wake up to a King George III Monarchy and ye Greate Liberal Freakeoutte will be on.
Mark welle thiƒ in your Bookeƒ, Liberalƒ, aƒ thiƒ is exactly how it is Goinge to go Downe. You will be wonder how the Hell I was able to call this.
You will be wonder how the Hell I was able to call this.
THOU ART A WITCH!
Am I wrong to think of Burr aƒ Bugƒ Bunny?
Not at all. A merry trickster is a merry trickster is a man who was VP, maybe was involved in the conspiracy to create the Northeast Confederacy, and possibly tried to make himself Emperor of Mexico.
Burr fought a duel.
Bugs Bunny fought duels.
Address my logic, libs!!
Brilliant.
Did anyone bother read the post on Media Matters and read what Lloyd had written? Its easy to see why the Corportocracy sees him as The Enemy.
He is. Of them.
Mark welle thiƒ in your Bookeƒ
Ho ho ho, it workeƒ in cut&paƒte on my Linux.
I love thiƒ, I really do want the long eƒs back. How will they deal with thiƒ at work, I wonder?
Hey, come on, ƒtop ƒcrewing around with that ƒtupid ƒoppish ƒhit!
Gee, y’know … that iƒ actually pretty kewl … okay, ƒorget I ƒpake.
ƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒ*!
[ translation: Pleaƒe Do Not Treadeth Upon Me, ƒirrah! ]
Apparently, there is an entire ALTernate universe within Windows. Please reveal more!
Ye Olde Troofae of 1776 said,
December 17, 2009 at 1:30
Your preciouƒ independence iƒ deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed deceaƒed!!!!!!! Haha, we’ll never have independence. You’re all deluded. The king holdƒ all the cardƒ.
ƒTW!
That quote is a fabrication. Just like the one with Lincoln talking about corporations is a fabrication. Fakes made by libs. Google it.
I did – apparently all the sites that Google found that attribute that quote to Jefferson are lying libs.
How will they deal with thiƒ at work, I wonder?
“You are ƒired, good ƒirrah!”
By the way…? is the abbrevation for Pesata.
I think you’re u?ing the wrong letter.