The Choice Of A New Generation
Posted on September 23rd, 2009 by Travis G.
S.E. Cupp, Townhall.com:
Generational Racism is Old and Tired
- Racism would barely even exist in this country if it weren’t for loose-dentured old fusspots such as Jimmy Carter, Dave Letterman, Nancy Pelosi, Maureen Dowd and Al Sharpton, who point out every real and imagined instance of bigotry they see. They should take a cue from my generation and learn to approach the topic cheekily and with blunt humor — unlike the old days.
‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™
Al Sharpton is only 54? Man, dude didn’t age very well.
Alternate shorter:
“You old people need to shut up and die. Where’s my appletini?”
We throw our heads back, and laugh, like this: Ha, ha, ha, ho, ho, hah!
Then we all salute the confederate flag Joe Wilson supports flying from the State capitol in South Carolina.
I violated the Prime Directive, ATTS, and in this case seem to be relatively unscathed. I found this:
“Race-baiting is so five minutes ago, we tell them – but it falls on deaf (or at least hearing-impaired) ears. No matter, they’re hoping that the old-school racializing of everything and anything (did Joe Wilson say “boy,” like Maureen Dowd said?! Gasp!) will come back into fashion. It won’t. Because my generation is the first that isn’t willing to go gentle into that good night, intimidated and threatened by Al Sharpton’s erratic dry-heaving or Maureen Dowd’s shrill lectures, or Jimmy Carter’s see-through sanctimony. I know they really, really want us to take them and their lunatic accusations of racism seriously, but we’re rebelling instead. Better get used to it. It’s all just part of the aging process. ”
When your political and social acumen is formed by watching “Sex in The City,” you say things like this.
Remember: Only a racist would point out how racist it is to portray the president as a witch doctor. Someone who is truly post-racial and completely without bias would proudly carry such a sign and wave a monkey doll with the name “OBAMA” stitched into its vest.
Besides, shut up! Also.
From the comments to that piece:
So beware, Sarah. Folks in the 60’s and 70’s were duped into believing the racist tales with little more than the repeated showings of police dogs and fire hoses (one instance), tear-jerking stories of lynchings and church burnings (extraordinarily rare occurences), a woman sitting on the front of the bus and separate water fountains — it was Armageddon!
Not only is America not racist now, it seems it was actually never racist! I mean, lynchings only happened now and then!
You know who I would go to as the authority on racism? Conservative white people. I’m sure they know all there is to know on the subject.
Holy living God these people scare the crap out of me.
I certain she thinks racial prejudgice doesn’t ree-ally exist, right up until the minute she gets slow service from the black bartender at the disco.
Hi Travis, could you just fire-up photoshop and replace that “red eye” with “brown eye”?
Thanks.
‘Cuz to today’s hip kidz, no places say “Now! and “With it! like Fox News and Townhall.com.
Hey. I know I be hatin’ on the girl, but in her defense she’s been real busy writin’ fine commentary for Clownhall. I mean, since the middle of May, she has posted five whole columns! And she took her time with this last one, really sweated it for like a month or somethin’. She’s a worker, that one.
I certain she thinks racial prejudgice doesn’t ree-ally exist, right up until the minute she gets slow service from the black bartender at the disco.
Or crosses the street to not have to walk by “dangeous people.” Or won’t go to that neighbourhood because it “isn’t safe” — i.e., working-class black neighbourhood.
Keith Knight says it all in the first panel, here.
Y’know, I’ve noticed that the only people who ever say that racism is dead happen to be white. I wonder why that is?
i.e., working-class
blackneighbourhood.Fizzed.
S.E. Cupp (what does the “S.E.” stand for? Hmm?) strikes me as a suburban, “Manhattan with a big group on Friday night” kinda girl.
Just looked at her biography…atheist with a BA in art from Cornell who is pursuing a religious studies degree at NYU? What the what, now?
I can’t say that I haven’t been tempted to cash in on my decent looks, whiteness, and “youth” (bitch is a year and a half older than me, so I still qualify, right?) and become a hawt conservative commentator.
The S. is for Sip. Sip E. Cupp, as she can’t be trusted with big girl drinking vessels (and thoughts) yet.
S.E. Cupp (what does the “S.E.” stand for? Hmm?) strikes me as a suburban, “Manhattan with a big group on Friday night” kinda girl.
There’s a “two girls, one cup” joke here, but I’m not clever/nasty enough to think of it.
I don’t think she means racism is old and tired. Clearly she embraces it. I’m pretty sure what she is tired of is complaining about racism. if we point out racism, we acknowledge it as a problem, and then we have to do something to fix it.
You know, something that might make us slower to bomb other people who don’t look exactly like us if they are living inconveniently close to oil we want. Or maybe, something that might make us re examine the war on drugs and the disparity of punishments handed out between Caucasian offenders and everyone else.
But fixing the inherent injustices in American society is hard. If we admit that America has some work to do to become the land of the free, well by golly that means America isn’t number one at everything, which means the terrorists win.
atheist with a BA in art from Cornell who is pursuing a religious studies degree at NYU
I didn’t see that in her bio (the one at CH). I did see she lives in NYC, or claims to. But that doesn’t mean much. In San Francisco, you could “live in the city” but be well-insulated from any sort of working class (or Gasp!) un-white part of the city. And atheism? She’s rebelling, remember?
So beware, Sarah. Folks in the 60’s and 70’s were duped into believing the racist tales with little more than the repeated showings of police dogs and fire hoses (one instance), tear-jerking stories of lynchings and church burnings (extraordinarily rare occurences), a woman sitting on the front of the bus and separate water fountains — it was Armageddon!
Hey, it was only 4 little black girls killed in a church bombing!!! you’d think this was genocide or something!!! geez. plus, hardly any black folks got dragged along behind a truck! /wingnut
this is one of the more shameless, ugly apologetics I’ve heard from these people, and that’s saying something. I do not and will not ever understand them, I guess because I am not a sociopath.
I didn’t see that in her bio (the one at CH).
Yeah, I looked her up on Wikipedia because I’m avoiding work. She is also a classically-trained ballet dancer and hunter and NASCAR fan!
I get a feeling that she’s one of those with a desperate need for attention. I don’t know why.
Alternative very much shorter:
Racism, nu-uh. Ageism, hell yeah!
S. E. Cupp? “C”-cup? WTF? Did she get her nom-de-plume from the facebook stripper name generator?
The S. is for Sip. Sip E. Cupp, as she can’t be trusted with big girl drinking vessels (and thoughts) yet.
Heh.
And. And, if she is such a post-modern, with-it, It-girl of conservatism, why is she hiding her gender behind initials? That seems a bit 18th century to me. But, of course, that’s kinda where the thinking is, so…
“Because my generation is the first…”
No, no, it’s not.
The “black people are the real racists” thing is getting damn fucking old fast.
Had an aunt who dropped “You’re racist because you said the word ‘black'” on me last night after I responded to her latest e-mail forward. Trying to decide whether to just add her to my spam filter or start subscribing her to embarrassing magazines…
Ooh ooh ooh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDhdrHeUuTM
Near the 45 second mark someone makes a claim about sexism. Only sexist people accuse others of sexism!
Hey! Sipp E. (B) Cupp?
Let’s go to the map, shall we?
Hate Groups Across The US
Hey, look! New York ranks pretty high on the count!
Now, lemme see…you went to Cornell, where men are men and sheep stand nervously, in the middle of country that’s MORE redneck than the state of Alabama, and you never noticed the distinct lack of negroes around you?
OK, you went to the college…probably snuck in thru the SUNY Ithaca program…so maybe you saw a few, a few, some of whom might even have had financial assistance because they are poor.
Why? Because THEIR parents couldn’t get pay commensurate with their education and abilities, mostly because they are, you know, black?
Just a thought.
Ooh ooh ooh!
The shame. It’s unbearable.
I gave Sipp E. Cupp way too much credit.
Vall. Eee. Girl.
Omigod!
Can’t hear the sound, but I’ll say again: DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION.
This was pretty much a by-the-numbers “you’re the racist for bringing up racism” screed, but this sentence struck me:
And so, as we are wont to do, we point and laugh instead, throwing our heads back in bemusement…
When has anyone ever reacted to being bemused by throwing back his or her head?
When that person doesn’t know what bemused means?
Looch,
Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™
Not to be lookist or anything (looksist? Wev.) but she should be on a late-night infomercial for herbal erectile dysfunction pills.
As the “NO WONDER I CAN’T GET IT UP” chick.
Errrr…
“She’s definitely a serious future presidential candidate, and I understand why she plays so well in middle America,” said Mr. Coulter, a Canadian.
~
When that person doesn’t know what bemused means?
Yeah, when I skimmed her column (I trust the shorter, but try to verify), I realized it’s loaded with words you’d see in an undergrad with average intelligence who was told that she was “bright” all her life.
Looch,
Always. Trust. The. Shorter.™
Well, actually, it’s NutellaonToast’s linkee that threw me. Moon Unit Zappa could not have done that more vacuously.
Hair flipping? Check. Pearls? Check. Putting on make-up while commentorating? Check. Using the word “integral” repeatedly (after looking it up)? Check. Saying absolutely nothing of substance? Check.
For sure, for sure.
The expression, “so five minutes ago”, is, like, so twelve years ago.
Just sayin’.
I realized it’s loaded with words you’d see in an undergrad with average intelligence who was told that she was “bright” all her life.
Ah. The Norm Crosby of Fox!
The Norm Crosby of Fox!
Wait. There’s just one?
And so, as we are wont to do, we point and laugh instead, throwing our heads back in bemusement…
When has anyone ever reacted to being bemused by throwing back his or her head?
she’s getting her gesticulations mixed up – she really is thinking of tossing her head (with its “mane” of shiny beautiful right-wing hawt wimmens hair) and lightly, mockingly laughing, but with a tinkly silver-bell, sound, very feminine, of course. this goes along with that arch little look she is giving the camera.
Hm, something’s missing from Ms. Sipp E. Cupp’s analytical landscape but I can’t put my finger on it.
You gotcher generally less racially fucked up younger folks, check; your gotcher older anti-racists who came of age in an era when racism was often the law of land and who may seem out of step with the younger folks’ more inclusive attitudes, check… Oh! Hey! Where are the oldsters who were racists then, are racists now, and are the ones who keep screaming about getting “their” America back? You know, the ones that the actual fucking subjects of the current charges of racism
Sheesh.
So basically, Sipp E is the latest object of wankification for those poor lonely men watching Fox News who can’t turn on porn, because porn makes you gay, and can’t make love with their women (I’m leaving that softball out there) because they get off polishing their guns and trucks– but totally not gay, no sir!– and get creeped out looking at Ann Coulter, wondering why her adam’s apple is so extensive, and get an icky feeling about Malkin and Gellar because they’re so ethnic?
So basically, Sipp E is the latest object of wankification for those poor lonely men watching Fox News who can’t turn on porn, because porn makes you gay, and can’t make love with their women (I’m leaving that softball out there) because they get off polishing their guns and trucks– but totally not gay, no sir!– and get creeped out looking at Ann Coulter, wondering why her adam’s apple is so extensive, and get an icky feeling about Malkin and Gellar because they’re so ethnic?
Looks like. Plus, she’s an atheist, so that makes her a “bad girl,” so they can imagine either a) rescuing her from her bad, bad ways, or b) punishing her for it.
I just grossed myself out there. Ew.
Her generation is the first to buck claims of racism, proudly declaring it’s all hype! She won’t be scared into her cave! Except for every generation of white conservatives in America before her, she is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
Oh god, it gets worse: she’s a former ballerina….who thinks men are pigs! Naturally, this came up after Rush cracked a joke about her “cupps”…
But racism? Doesn’t exist.
And so, as we are wont to do, we point and laugh instead, throwing our heads back in bemusement at the old establishment fogies who’ve yet to enter the 21st century.
But you know, everything that’s wrong with the world today is the fault of those dirty fucking hippies who showed such disrespect to their elders back int he ’60s.
Hmmmm, you know, it’s possible she’s a John Cole in drag…we might be able to turn her to The Force….
Plus, I mean, let’s be honest (I am feeling very sexist today, apparently), Anne Coulter’s pushing 50 and hasn’t aged well…all that bile and lack of food really puts the years on one’s face.
Anne Coulter’s pushing 50 and hasn’t aged well…all that bile and lack of food really puts the years on one’s face.
She’s running out of virgin Republican women to drink blood from, too.
(I am feeling very sexist today, apparently)
T&U,
It’s hard to claim sexism when your sex is in doubt.
“…telling my generation and the ones that follow that race is merely a political weapon of expedience, to be used haphazardly and crudely simply to get what you want.”
Absolutely, I use my whiteness everyday to get what I want, in fact, its so explicit that I don’t even have to mention it, whereas, if I were black, brown or some other feature of non-caucasion, I might have to point out that despite my race I have all the qualifications to get through the door too.
“Thanks to the inarguable success of the civil rights movement, my generation, the 20- and 30-somethings, didn’t grow up encumbered by the aggressive identity politics of the 60s and 70s, or the kind of rhetoric that made white people scared to talk about race, and men scared to talk about gender.”
You know what, its not often a wingnut is stupid enough to just come out and write in their column and not edit it out, how the liberals have made things easier for the young folks.
So, hey thanks there C-Cup, now if you’ll just get out of the way, we’ve still got some road to travel.
I suppose that someone who wasn’t alive during the years of dog-whistle racial politics can’t really be expected to recognize a racist dog-whistle when she hears it, so I’ll give her that much. The retardation shows up when she assumes that just because people of HER generation don’t get it, that their older brethren in the conservative movement don’t get it either. You know, the people who are twice as likely to vote as people her age and who run the party she belongs to and who also spent 40 years claiming that racism doesn’t exist, even as they rushed in to the voting booths to vote against “welfare queens” and the “reverse discrimination” of affirmative action. A more analytical mind might have noticed that for the past 30 years, blacks have voted against her party by margins of 80%+ in every national election, and instead of ascribing that fact to the totally non-racist assumption that it’s because they are not very bright, that perhaps there was something about the party that turned them off.
Naw. Obviously it’s because they’re stupid and they believe the Jimmy Carters, Nancy Pelosis, and Al Sharptons who point out racist statements and actions where none exist.
“Al Sharpton is only 54? Man, dude didn’t age very well.”
You leave Al alone you here?!
The man is fine, just fine. And I’d walk, yes, walk from here to NYC just to have lunch with him.
Women in Manhattan are objectified walking down the street every day. A broad spectrum of women get looked at. It’s, yeah, disgusting. That doesn’t do anything for me. That doesn’t excite me. I know women who use it as a barometer for how good they’re looking that day. Eww! It gives me the creeps.
Yeah, hot off the presses of the No Shit Sherlock Gazette – women get cat-called in the street. Learned that back in 1975 myself, dear, and it wasn’t new then either.
And – excuse me – I have never in my life met a woman who enjoys street catcalls and uses them as a “barometer for how good they’re looking that day.” If she does, then she’s got some fucked up friends.
G,
Compare and contrast:
…with….
(emphasis added)
Anybody else see a bit of a…divergence…in her powers of observation?
the aggressive identity politics of the 60s and 70s
Oh so that’s what the kids are calling this these days.
Stupid cunt’s lack of historical knowledge is appalling. Describing the civil rights movement with a right-wing buzz-word she learned from Rush Limbaugh is inexcusable.
DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION.
TaU nails this, methinks.
“Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as “a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.”[1]
The narcissist is described as turning inward for gratification rather than depending on others and as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power, and prestige.[2] Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness. It is also colloquially referred to as “the God complex.”
Spot. On.
Wow. That’s some image there:
Who knew sponges were all “yes I said yes I will Yes”?
I suppose that someone who wasn’t alive during the years of dog-whistle racial politics can’t really be expected to recognize a racist dog-whistle when she hears it, so I’ll give her that much. The retardation shows up when she assumes that just because people of HER generation don’t get it, that their older brethren in the conservative movement don’t get it either.
But, really, the dogwhistles were blown the entire time she was growing up. And I don’t know if all of the older generation even gets that the dogwhistles are being blown–like, they’re *just enough* so that they’re afraid and they feel insecure about *something*, but they don’t attribute it to racism.
I think it’s more about her being a) a fucking privileged, dumb asshole and/or b) pretending that it doesn’t exist so that she can continue being a republican pin-up.
And – excuse me – I have never in my life met a woman who enjoys street catcalls and uses them as a “barometer for how good they’re looking that day.” If she does, then she’s got some fucked up friends.
Neither have I. And I have talked to A LOT of women about this issue. It’s a bullshit, sleight-of-hand sanction of it, really.
OK, I know “the civil rights movement” is supposed to be something good, and “the aggressive identity politics of the 60s and 70s” is supposed to be something bad, but could someone please tell me where one ends and the other begins? Because I’m having an awful time not seeing them as the same fucking thing.
Looch, I’ll bet you 5 bucks that her parents are liberal.
I suppose that someone who wasn’t alive during the years of dog-whistle racial politics can’t really be expected to recognize a racist dog-whistle when she hears it, so I’ll give her that much.
Sorry, but her generation gets the “dog whistles” just as well as their elders, though they may not know the history (and she is clearly abysmally ignorant of history) or origins. I have seen this in my classes (I teach Native American and race & ethnicity classes) continuously over the past 20 years. Racism is less virulent and there are far fewer overt racists than when I grew up in Oklahoma under Jim Crow, particularly among the younger generation, but it has not gone away. She is right about one thing. Race really is everywhere. Because we live in a racialized society, race permeates everything. That is not fantasy, it is the empirical reality.
Looch, I’ll bet you 5 bucks that her parents are liberal.
Born in Carlsbad, CA, raised in Andover, MA, studied at a liberal arts Ivy League college…probably mom and dad paid for it…
Yea. I think you might be right
Looch, I’ll bet you 5 bucks that her parents are liberal.
Well, she grew up in Andover, MA. The profile of the town I saw in Wikipedia has all the local elected officials (with the exception of the Sheriff) with “D”s after their names. Not conclusive, not by a stretch, but you are probably right.
But rebelling against her parents? Maybe some of that here. But I think the need for attention (Ballerina?–hello!) drives most of this. Being a hawt congirl (as mentioned by numerous folks above) is the goal, and saying whatever gets her that attention is what will be said. Add that she is kinda stupid and Bingo! A new contender for the Conservative “It” Girl.
I have never in my life met a woman who enjoys street catcalls and uses them as a “barometer for how good they’re looking that day.”
Personally, I respond with a show of bemusement.
And – excuse me – I have never in my life met a woman who enjoys street catcalls and uses them as a “barometer for how good they’re looking that day.”
Sad, but some do. I recently worked with a woman who was in the habit of coming in to work every day and telling me about how one or another male that she encountered that morning or the day before was hitting on her, whistling at her, etc. At first I found it extremely irritating. But given that she’s 39 years old, I found it very sad and pathetic; knowing that she had been so upset about turning 30 that she chose to schedule her surgery to get hugely-out-of-proportion fake breasts on her 30th birthday (so she’d be out of it on the dreaded day), I can’t imagine that the next 5 – 10 years will be anything short of hellish for her.
The saddest thing about it? She’s pretty, but not even among the top several hundred most attractive people I’ve ever met in real life, never mind models and actresses. And at age 39, still defining “beauty” as that which appeals to teenaged boys and young men in their early 20’s – long bleached blond hair, hoochie-mama tight clothing, and disproportionately huge fake breasts. I can’t imagine life after 40 for anyone who has defined their self-worth by their physical appeal to barely post-adolescent males.
“Women in Manhattan are objectified walking down the street every day. A broad spectrum of women get looked at. It’s, yeah, disgusting. That doesn’t do anything for me. That doesn’t excite me. I know women who use it as a barometer for how good they’re looking that day. Eww! It gives me the creeps.”
Apparently she’s not only been sheltered from exposure to non-white folks, but also women who are not street prostitutes and strippers, who last I knew are the few that use cat-calls and other sexual harassment to positive advantage.
“Personally, I respond with a show of bemusement.”
Oh yeah, baby, throw your head back for me!
“I recently worked with a woman who was in the habit of coming in to work every day and telling me about how one or another male that she encountered that morning or the day before was hitting on her, whistling at her, etc. At first I found it extremely irritating. But given that she’s 39 years old, I found it very sad and pathetic;”
I consider that behavior a dysfunction, a sort of pathetic dysphoria (?) that occurs when women completely internalize the oppression of sexism. It becomes their identity, leaving them empty, to chase that myth like a child trying to catch a soap bubble.
DrDick, I’m from Kansas (near the OK border), and, as I said, I’m her age. Some of the people I knew didn’t even believe in dogwhistles–they were just flat-out racist. The country school just outside my town was flooded with out-of-district requests because the “city” school was supposedly bad and filled with “gangs.” I actually went to that country school for a few years because I was in its district, and the racism was palpable. There was literally *one* black child in a school of 500 kids.
Maybe *she* grew up in a post-racial society, but those of us who grew up alongside people who are now teabaggers certainly did not.
But rebelling against her parents? Maybe some of that here. But I think the need for attention (Ballerina?–hello!) drives most of this. Being a hawt congirl (as mentioned by numerous folks above) is the goal, and saying whatever gets her that attention is what will be said. Add that she is kinda stupid and Bingo! A new contender for the Conservative “It” Girl.
I think you’re actually right about that. Plus, the NASCAR and the hunting and shit make her totally “one of the boys” too, so that’s even sexier for the conboys.
Plus, the NASCAR and the hunting and shit make her totally “one of the boys” too, so that’s even sexier for the conboys.
The NASCAR and hunting are the new cool fads among conservatives, like Cristal champagne was cool for rappers.
“The NASCAR and hunting are the new cool fads among conservatives, like Cristal champagne was cool for rappers.”
What about hipsters. Seems like something they’d be into. Or claim to be into, anyway.
The NASCAR and hunting are the new cool fads among conservatives, like Cristal champagne was cool for rappers.
Soooo, rappers pretend to be rich and conservatives pretend to be poor?
Not a diaphragm user, then.
Also: we should believe people of the political persuasion that said that racism was irrelevant back in the day (when they weren’t using it in the Southern Strategy, that is) when they say that it’s irrelevant today. And: the political persuasion that nominated the oldest person to run for president in the last election is the party of youth. Gotcha.
Apparently she’s not only been sheltered from exposure to non-white folks, but also women who are not street prostitutes and strippers, who last I knew are the few that use cat-calls and other sexual harassment to positive advantage.
And Amy Alkon. Also.
Personally, I respond with a show of bemusement.
I can’t think of many women I know who have effervesced over being catcalled. They tend to be liberal cogniscenti of course.
This is a great discussion of the demerits of catcalls.
And in breaking news, Sarah Palin praises thirty-year old discredited economic policies! Her solution to the economic mess we’re in? Cut taxes and that will solve everything!
Bonus word salad:
“Personally, I’ve always been really interested in the ideas too about the land bridge. Ideas that maybe so long ago, had allowed Alaska to be physically connected to this part of our world so many years ago.
Also.
I can’t imagine life after 40 for anyone who has defined their self-worth by their physical appeal to barely post-adolescent males.
Can you say “cougar”?
DrDick, I’m from Kansas (near the OK border)
Coffeyville or Arkansas City? I grew up in Bartlesville.
S.E. Cupp strikes me as a suburban, “Manhattan with a big group on Friday night” kinda girl.
The phrase you’re groping for is “Bridge and Tunneler.”
She is also a classically-trained ballet dancer and hunter
Hunting ballerinas is like shooting fish in a barrel. They can’t run fast in those shoes.
Hunting ballerinas is like shooting fish in a barrel. They can’t run fast in those shoes.
Yes, but you have to correct for the jetes.
Hunting ballerinas is like shooting fish in a barrel. They can’t run fast in those shoes.
Yeah, but they are so scrawny and stringy that it really isn’t worth hunting them. Can’t even get a descent roast out of one.
DrDick–Parsons, actually. So, not quite *that* close to the OK border. I have some family in Ark City, and I know a couple of people from Bartlesville. My dad lives in Ada now. I think things are worse there in some ways today because of meth.
Maybe there wouldn’t be so much racism if the meddlin’ Yankees hadn’t a interfered with Southerners’ choice of labor practices among their African immigrants who just showed up looking for work, not necessarily pay, but work, and if they likewise hadn’t ta stuck their noses into our damn fine and time tested votin’ practices.
The only real racism they’s ever been is that by outside agitators against Southern conservative whites.
“We have much in common with Hong Kong. We’re both young and transient, independent and libertarian. Places that continue to show the world, the power and the resilience of the free market system at a time when too many are questioning it. So for Alaska, which is the air crossroads of the world, to this prosperous dynamic force in the world, Hong Kong, I bring good tidings, wishes for more blessing and vibrant life and even more freedom.”
Kee-rist, if I were tasked with it, it would be hard for me to come up with two geographic entities that have LESS in common than Alaska and Hong Kong.
Size – check. Urban vs. largely rural – check. Economy based on commerce/finance vs. natural resources – check. Population density – check.
Not to mention the fact that Hong Kong, first as a part of the British Empire, now part of China, is hardly an example of “freedom” in the context of government.
And Alaska is the air crossroads of the world? Why is it none of my flights ever make connections in Anchorage?
The phrase you’re groping for is “Bridge and Tunneler.”
Yes, I had a “big group” grope.
There’s too much crazy out there now. I’m just now seeing Tacitus having a hissy about crossing the border.
Kee-rist, if I were tasked with it, it would be hard for me to come up with two geographic entities that have LESS in common than Alaska and Hong Kong.
Yeah, but have you noticed that she compares EVERYTHING to Alaska?
Why is it none of my flights ever make connections in Anchorage?
Don’t give anyone in the air business any ideas.
Yeah, but they are so scrawny and stringy that it really isn’t worth hunting them. Can’t even get a descent roast out of one.
I like to substitute them in for Buffalo wings.
She’s not the first conservative atheist I’ve seen, but they never fail to confuse the hell out of me.
Actually, in her case, I’m guessing that if she continues down the road of right-wing punditry, she’ll swing right back around to fundamentalist Christian, and then play the “I used to be an atheist” card at every opportunity, like Michael Medved.
SE Cupp:
.or it’s Pelosi’s feigned crocodile tears
Crocodile tears are already feigned. What are you doing when you are feigning an insincere act? That’s some double negative shit I have trouble processing. A linguistic divide by 0 error.
Mmmm. Ballerina jerky….
.or it’s Pelosi’s feigned crocodile tears
Crocodile tears are already feigned.
Perhaps she meant “Pelosi’s feigned crocodile handbag”?
OT, Godwin’s favorite fuckwit flings more poo.
I guess he went to Irving Kristol’s funeral and left committed to further debasing the holocaust.
When has anyone ever reacted to being bemused by throwing back his or her head?
Only peoply who levy accusations do that.
roll on floor bemused
roflbem
I think things are worse there in some ways today because of meth.
I blame the Republicans. I left more than 20 years ago, getting out just ahead of the lunatics taking over the asylum.
If I read the story on Sarah Failin’s Big Speech right, they would neither confirm nor deny she got $300,000 for it.
I haz a sad.
And, the two Sarahs (Palin and Cupp) sort of blend this thread rather tightly together. How many women are watching these two (and the numerous others like them) and learning all about putting yourself in the most advantageous spot (i.e., hawt congirl)? If either of these women were toad-ugly, they would be
K-Lonowhere to be seen.So for Alaska, which is the air crossroads of the world
Isn’t this just a polite term for “fly over state”? Even there, looking at the route map for a major airline, she’s still wrong, practically nothing flies over alaska on its way to anywhere.
This is not really surprising. A younger generation that has grown up in the aftermath of the Civil Rights era is going to take for granted all of the things for which people struggled and strove so mightily. You see similar attitudes about abortion rights and environmentalism — growing up post-Roe v. Wade and post-Clean Air Act, the younger generations just don’t see what’s the big deal.
On the other side, of course, I think those who grew up in a post-Berlin Wall/fall of the USSR world don’t see why Communism gets everybody’s panties in a wad, either, so that particular dog-whistle is not getting much traction among the younger set.
This reminds me of a phenomenon I’ve been noticing more and more lately; a complete lack of shame in people these days. The other day I was in a crosswalk, 1/3 of the way across the street, when a car came whipping around, and the dingbat driver on a cellphone, not paying attention, almost hit me.
I rolled my eyes, said nothing, but raised my hands in the sort of “wtf?” gesture. Guy came to a screeching halt and started screaming at me “fuck you, you fucking punk-ass bitch! I’m gonna fucking kick your fucking ass you look at me like that again, bitch!”.
So, he knows he was wrong. Totally fucking wrong. Pedestrian. In crosswalk. Right of way. All 50 states. But he got lividly angry at me pointing this out to him (and no one else was around). Basically, there are so many self-centered, shameless assholes in this country now, and they get upset when you point out their fuckups, even when they deserve it and need to be taught the lesson that they’ll be grateful others treat THEM with respect if they do the same. But no, the BIGGER CRIME is pointing OUT their foible. Sure, they’ll find the speck in YOUR eye, ignoring the PLANK in their own, but damn you, you can’t even point out their PLANK lest you make them cry. You’re “bringing them down, man” and making them feel bad (so, shut up, that’s why).
Meanwhile, I was boarding a bus in the rain and didn’t see the old guy trying to get out (he was exiting from the front door, which you’re NOT supposed to do, so he was unexpected). I brushed him. The bus driver chastised me for “knocking over the old man, just to get out of a little rain”.
I apologized to him. I apologized to her. I took my seat on the bus. I later gave up my seat on the bus. I still felt a little bad about it since he was an old guy and it wasn’t raining that hard, but I didn’t see him and just brushed him, didn’t knock his ass to the concrete or anything.
So yeah…Sippy Cupp just doesn’t want you to POINT OUT her racism. But she, of course, is free to point out what a lying, commie, baby-killing racist Obama is any damn time she wants to. Good work if you can get…
Y’know, I’ve noticed that the only people who ever say that racism is dead happen to be white.
What about…ALAN KEYES!!?! He’s black!
I blame the Republicans. I left more than 20 years ago, getting out just ahead of the lunatics taking over the asylum.
They had a lot to do with it, too, and a lot to do with the problem of meth, I think, by fucking up the economies of rural states even more than they already had. I can’t really make a judgment about the last 20 years vs. the time before that, but I have definitely seen a decline in the last 10. Every time I visit my family, it seems worse.
Mmmm. Ballerina jerky….
Now with 50% more St Vitus’ Dance!
looking at the route map for a major airline, she’s still wrong, practically nothing flies over alaska on its way to anywhere.
Except, of course, Pooty-Poot’s noggin.
Isn’t this just a polite term for “fly over state”? Even there, looking at the route map for a major airline, she’s still wrong, practically nothing flies over alaska on its way to anywhere.
“The Sarah Palin FarEast Airport and Refueling Terminal.”
She haz a plan.
“But, oh, goldarn it, I’m not governor any more!”
She haz a sad.
so that particular dog-whistle is not getting much traction among the younger set.
Not wanting to disagree, but by this logic the whole Obama=Hitler motif would be DOA…
Basic problem with Sippy Cupp’s article is that she’s inventing a principle upon which to disagree with Carter et al (I’m not from your era, so I can’t relate to your argument), without thinking about how often it could be used against her. The authoritarian mind, so very susceptible to this type of error.
Yeah, but they are so scrawny and stringy that it really isn’t worth hunting them. Can’t even get a descent roast out of one.
They usually have pretty large heads though.
The “racism doesn’t exist” trope reminds me of inept bank robbers, who were unable to open a safe with the hand tools they brought, so they chain the thing to the back of their car and drag it to their workshop at five miles an hour, creating a roostertail of sparks and digging huge grooves in the pavement. When the cops show up, they are working on the safe with saws and torches and all they can say is “what safe?”
They usually have pretty large heads though.
Flockhart was the first celebrity I ever heard referred to as a lollipop.
FYWP
Flockhart was the first celebrity I ever heard referred to as a lollipop.
Not Frank Sinatra?
One prefers the old bigotry. At least it was honest, and not, as Abraham Lincoln observed, adulterated “with the base alloy of hypocrisy.”
“little more than the repeated showings of police dogs and fire hoses (one instance)”
I think I found that one instance.
http://images.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=march%20on%20birmingham%201963&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
Flockhart was the first celebrity I ever heard referred to as a lollipop.
Not Frank Sinatra?
He was the Chairman of the Lollipop.
Who loves ya, baby?
“I’m not from your era, so I can’t relate to your argument”
There is no history, only herstory.
And did I forget to mention Thomas Sowell? Ah-ha! Suck on that, looney libs.
Feck. To space or not to space. Parens? Eh, mebbe.
“Her story” or “Her(story).”
And I bet if you could give me a little more time I could think of a few other blacks, who by their very
selling outobservations that racism no longer exists, like totally eviscerates your arguments!Handy, Michael Steele disagrees that Thomas Sowell is….you know…conservative!
Handy, Michael Steele disagrees that Thomas Sowell is….you know…conservative!
So he’s a Black RINO?
Black RINO?
I think I rented that movie once. Came out in the ’70s, no?
I think I rented that movie once. Came out in the ’70s, no?
I dunno. Who was in it?
“Y’know, I’ve noticed that the only people who ever say that racism is dead happen to be white.
What about…ALAN KEYES!!?! He’s black!”
yeah, you remembered Thomas Sowell, but what about Clarence Thomas and Michael Steele? Eh? Eh?
There you are, four people of color, a very dangerous number; almost a Watts Riot of colored folks, who act as living proof I say, that racism does not exist, because of course, tokens don’t exist either.
There’s also LaShawn Barber and Star Parker. We’re reaching critical mass!
I dunno. Who was in it?
Black RINO.
I think it was Richard Roundtree and Pam Grier, but don’t hold me to that.
There you are, four people of color, a very dangerous number; almost a Watts Riot of colored folks, who act as living proof I say, that racism does not exist, because of course, tokens don’t exist either.
JC Watts.
Give her a break. How is she supposed to know anything about the civil rights movement? She was like totally not even born yet.
There you are, four people of color, a very dangerous number; almost a Watts Riot of colored folks,
I don’t know about riots but certainly more than enough to make Dan Rielh piss himself.
Larry Elder, also Armstrong Williams. It would appear that every single black conservative in the country has their own column. We forgot Clarence Thomas who does not have his own column.
“Women in Manhattan are objectified walking down the street every day. A broad spectrum of women get looked at. It’s, yeah, disgusting. That doesn’t do anything for me. That doesn’t excite me. I know women who use it as a barometer for how good they’re looking that day. Eww! It gives me the creeps.”
Notice, she’s not even talking about catcalls or rude leering–just “getting looked at”. How dare those rude men look at her! Of course, you know she would be horrified if she thought for one minite that they weren’t looking!
We forgot Clarence Thomas who does not have his own column.
No, he has eight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USSupremeCourtWestFacade.JPG
Notice, she’s not even talking about catcalls or rude leering–just “getting looked at”. How dare those rude men look at her! Of course, you know she would be horrified if she thought for one minite that they weren’t looking!
Remember, true conservative men like fucking women who don’t enjoy it. They usually settle for women who just lie back and take it, but they get really hot and bothered by women who actively dislike it. Or something.
I like this one:
“So my generation isn’t so easily intimidated by discussions of race, because we were raised in a climate that was much less hostile toward them.”
She can’t even bring herself to say “black”. Some post-racial writing, there honey!
“So my generation isn’t so easily intimidated by discussions of race, because we were raised in a climate that was much less hostile toward them.”
I think she meant to say “those people”
They may have Colin Powell, but they’ve got so many people who are so white it makes up for it. It’s like how in an overexposed photograph even a chalkboard looks white.
Last!
There is a solution for that, you know.
First, this is totally about rebelling against parents. Her own statements make it pretty obvious she’s yelling at mommy and daddy.
Second, I kind of get this behavior. When I was younger and more stupid, I didn’t get the big deal with any of your old people shenanigans about race or sex. I eventually woke up to the realities of well, reality, but a lot of people in my peer group didn’t, for varying reasons.
And this one is being paid specifically not to get it.
—
And as I’ve said before about the Obama=Hitler thing, that’s specifically showing how we don’t fucking understand what the big deal about communism is. They had to throw in Nazis for our generation to get all bent out of shape over it. You don’t see any young people giving Obama a Stalin mustache, after all.
When has anyone ever reacted to being bemused by throwing back his or her head?
If the head is too small, fishing regulations require you to throw it back.
And, the two Sarahs (Palin and Cupp) sort of blend this thread rather tightly together.
2 Girls 1 Cupp.
First, this is totally about rebelling against parents. Her own statements make it pretty obvious she’s yelling at mommy and daddy.
Which from (the limited) knowledge I have on the subject might be the source of narcissism. Having incomplete emotional connection with parents can be a cause of the disorder. Yelling and screaming at Mommy and Daddy would indicate some dissatisfaction in that area.
Agreement, violent.
Remember, true conservative men like fucking women who don’t enjoy it. They usually settle for women who just lie back and take it
Who throw back their heads in bemusement?
If the head is too small, fishing regulations require you to throw it back.
Into a bemusement park
Remember, true conservative men like fucking women who don’t enjoy it. They usually settle for women who just lie back and take it
Who throw back their heads in bemusement?
Actually, I think the bemusement is how they got that way in the first place.
Actually, I think the bemusement is how they got that way in the first place.
“Don’t look now, Gladys, but there’s a neo-con behind you, and he’s staring at you….don’t look! And for god’s sake, whatever you do, don’t throw your head back in bemusement!”
Dear Random Commentator,
You don’t speak for me, and neither me nor any of my peers elected you. So stop acting like we did and you do.
Love and kisses,
My hatred.
Is Ken Lowry possessing S-Cup’s body or identity or something?
Like wow.
OT but has anyone seen this yet?
Gocart mozart! Go to your room!
I’ll be downstairs, in an acetone bath, trying to get that off.
Ah, fabulous. Wrong thread.
“Her story” or “Her(story).”
Definitely the second – makes it look all Wickedary.
Not wanting to disagree, but by this logic the whole Obama=Hitler motif would be DOA…
I think it’s different. Hitler — now two, maybe almost three, generations gone — is an icon of evil, used by pretty much anybody who wants to demonize an opponent. Nobody thinks Obama really is Hitler, or even a real Nazi. It resonates more effectively the less you actually try to connect Obama (or whoever/whatever you want to demonize) to the real Hitler and real Nazism.
By contrast, the oldsters screaming about Communism are actually scared of real Commies adulterating our precious bodily fluids, or whatever, and they are trying to push claims that Obama wants to turn America into a new Soviet Union. That’s the part that flops with youngsters who don’t have any real experience of what Soviet Communism means. (In fact, I think the right wing gets more traction with cries of “socialism” than “Communism,” precisely because “socialism” is not directly tied to a thirty-years-gone Soviet Empire, but can be abstracted into Pure Evil, a la Hitler.)
I think it’s different. Hitler — now two, maybe almost three, generations gone — is an icon of evil, used by pretty much anybody who wants to demonize an opponent.
Or a ready-made evil character in the movies, Hitler=Nazis, which are bad, bad, bad. Hell, Indiana Jones killed half the Third Reich by the end of that series of movies.
Hell, Indiana Jones killed half the Third Reich by the end of that series of movies.
I’ve seen an argument that Indy actually saved the Third Reich. If only he had done nothing, the Ark would have made it to Berlin and the face-melty people would have included the Moustache and all his merry men, instead of Random SS Henchman #1.
Somehow that has got to be central to Goldberg’s point.
Black RINO?
My favourite Ionescu production.
Funny how she’s able to point out the generational problem of racism (in a ass backwards kind of way) but can’t seem to take the next step and figure out why her generation is so much more likely to have voted for Obama than older generations (despite a previous preference among Senior citizens for Democrats- though its possible that like African-American turnout spiking and somehow becoming even more Democratic-though only slightly, Seniors were just pumped to able to vote for one of their own- I mean McCain was the oldest man ever to run for a first term).
Could it just be that having actually lived through the Civil Rights movement people in their 50s and 60s are far more familar with the kind of rhetorical tools being used now(I mean its not like the GOP was calling Clinton a “Welfare Thug” all that much, or interrupting his addresses to congress and they were willing to at least ape that he was a rapist and a murderer)- or is that crazy talk?
Is Ken Lowry possessing S-Cup’s body or identity or something?
S-who?
Also my name is right there, so come on already with the misspelling.
Ah, I see. No, I was addressing Cupp, not speaking in her defense. I don’t recall making her Ambassador For My Generation, and I resent her speaking as if she was.
Whoa, sweet first comment:
“21st Century racism resides on the Left
“Jimmy Carter is 85 years old. Dave Letterman is 62, Nancy Pelosi is 69, Maureen Dowd is 57, and Al Sharpton is 54.”
They are also Democrats. It doesn’t matter whether they are young or old, the majority of Democrats are racists.
JFK, RFK, MLK, Jr. must be weeping in eternity right now. I’m sad my party forced me to vote Republican.
Simply because Democrats have become racist, bigoted and subservient to the Left. ”
Awesome both in its equating of MLK and the men who spied on him (seriously Kennedy revisionism from a GOPer who’d have thunk it)
and its overall historical ignorance, also how is calling out racism (even if it were a false accusation which with the exception of Sharpton at times in the past it doesn’t seem to be) = racism itself, it might be defamation but logic doesn’t work that way.
Whoa- even better comment- “It was Democrats who voted against the Equal Rights Amendment….. and tried to reduce the black population by putting a Planned Parenthood clinic in all the inner cities. ” Seriously, history fail!
Personally, I respond with a show of bemusement.
Which Muse would that be? Eujerke, the Muse of obscene language?
Eujerke, the Muse of obscene language?
Euphonia, the Muse of deceit.
Not wanting to disagree, but by this logic the whole Obama=Hitler motif would be DOA…
As others above have said, the wingnuts aren’t really so much comparing Obama to the actual Hiter, just The Most Evil Bad Guy Ever. It’s just short of comparing him to the Devil, the Source Of All Evil, and I wonder if they’re gonna jump off there. Sure, some screwballs out on the fringe have said Barry X is the anti-Christ and/or the Morning Star, but that’s a trigger your more mainstream dingbats are hesitant to pull. Not quite willing to go to 11 just yet. I wonder where there is to go, though.
Were this the Marvel Universe, he’d be compared to Dr. Doom. Maybe. Now that I think about it, wingnuts would probably dig Dr. Doom’s style. He kicks butt and is cool doing it, and Reed Richards just gives his shit away anyway.
It’s just short of comparing him to the Devil, the Source Of All Evil
The Ayatatollahs have it right. No messing around — anything you don’t like is The Great Satan.
Ballerina, huntress, NASCAR aficianado, columnist- she’s like the Buckaroo Banzai of conservative commentary.
She obviously didn’t note the average age of the teabaggers.
I vote we put her in a rocket car and point it at a mountain
Yeah, I looked her up on Wikipedia because I’m avoiding work. She is also a classically-trained ballet dancer and hunter and NASCAR fan!
One of the major contributors to her Wikipedia entry has been obsessively revising it and correcting other people’s corrections since January (interspersed with a couple of corrections to two other Wikipedia entries — one for a Rep. politician, and the other for a Reason contributor).
I couldn’t be arsed tracking down the contributor of the ballet-dancing and NASCAR-liking information. Some of us have WORK TO DO
Racism would barely even exist in this country if it weren’t for [people pointing out instances of racism]
I tried applying this theory to wingnuts. Unfortunately, it didn’t work.
Some of us have WORK TO DO
Yeah, right!
Which Muse would that be? Eujerke, the Muse of obscene language?
Wow, it’s like you’ve seen into my soul.
I always take it to heart when a rich good looking white girl says to laugh at racism.
Ballerina, California Girl, Andover Mass. I’m sure she’s done a lot of huntin’ and fishin’ and NASCAR watchin’ I’d love to ask her what she hunts and what weapon she uses, and if she could name 5 NASCAR tracks. This is as much bullshit as Ollie North and Lamar alexander wearing those checkered flannel shirts a few years back to prove they were country boys.
OK couple things I can’t stand–people talkin bout “my generation” (wait isn’t that a song?) like they were elected to speak for the group or something. I mean I think I would make a better spokesperson for the 20 somethings than Clownhell barbie–I’ve actually read, like you know, books and tried to learn history and things outside of my experience and worldview (I know call me a freakin radical!) and instead of laughin and pointin at the funny farty oldheads and sayin “die bitches it’s my turn!!!”, I make it a point to listen and learn from their experiences (I mean the ones that ain’t batshit crazy at least!) Also too can we all stop throwin around the word “racism” so much? As a person of mixed race, I can attest to the fact that there is still a large, ugly vein of racial hatred running through our cultural bedrock, but overusing “racism” dilutes its value in describing and identifying the truly evil nature of those who practice it. I think most of the stupid hateful attitudes I’ve encountered can be termed to be good old-fashioned “prejudice” or “bigotry”, though I much prefer what my grandfather used to call it, “pig-ign’ance”!
Well, there’s your problem. We haven’t even heard word one from her, and already she’s artificially inflating her bra size!
Yes! Y’see, if you notice racism or point it out in any way, you’;re being a racist yourself for bringing it up! The only way to be truly non-racist is to pretend there is no racism outside of Klan meetings and lynch mobs.
And also it helps to be born after 1985. You people with unforgivably early birthdates should hang your racist heads in abject shame.
“Feigned crocodile tears”? Comment from the Department of Redundancy Department.
Yeesh!
Good work if you can get…
See, that’s what I think is going on here. I think Sippy Cupp is runnng a Colbert game, and doing Colbert one better by actually collecting wingnut welfare while doing so.
” Y’know, I’ve noticed that the only people who ever say that racism is dead happen to be white.”
” What about…ALAN KEYES!!?! He’s black!”
Yo, I’d like to give a shout out to my Callifornia homeboy Ward Connerly.
“… race is simply everywhere. It’s HANGING FROM THE TREES…” [my emphasis]
… Did she really say that?
Y’know, the actual definition of ‘bemusement’ makes her response a lot more true to life.