Ben the Engine Driver
Blogger Ben Domenech Strikes Back; Calls Washington Post Editors ‘Fools’
By: Robert B. Bluey
Posted 03/24/06“The idea that the attack machine has gotten to the level where they dig back to your freshman year of college, when you’re 17,* and say, ‘Hey, this guy should have been thinking about the authority of what he was writing the same way that people do at the New York Times,’ then, I mean, it’s idiotic,� he said. “I certainly was sloppier than I should have been, but the sense that I ever felt this was significant or this was dangerous or that there was ever anything to come out of it is just ridiculous.�
On behalf of RedState
By: krempaskyNow that the story is complete, we can move on. If you, as many have done, dedicate thousands of man-hours to scrutinizing of his life’s work, you’ll find two things: First, you’ll find several instances of this behavior, some attributable to youth, and some not. Second, you’ll find an amazingly talented writer, a man of principle, and an earnest young activist seeking not to advance himself — though advance he did — but the things he believed in.
“…And that bridge,” said the young man. “Do you see that stone bridge? I built that with my bare hands, piling stones and spreading mortar. And do you think they call me Ben the bridge-builder? No, they do not. That is not my name.”
The man threw back his whiskey, hiccuped, and roared, “But you fuck ONE BOX TURTLE…”
* Ben Domenech worked at Human Events, the weekly in which this article appears, at age 15, and began writing for NRO at 17.
Seriously, he’s like one of those closeted, homo-obsessed preachers, all his stories are from real life.
Hey Ben, is that a bike helmet on a toothpick, or are you just happy to see me??
I propose an official cut-off age for charges of plagiarism.
Until you’re 24, or employed by Washingtonpost.com as a blogger (whichever comes first, you should be able to put your byline on anyone else’s work, without fear of it being used against you.
It’s only fair…
Alas, alack, and fuck that poor box turtle’s luck.
If you want to be a cheating, plagiarizing little fuck, fine. But when you’re a dick like Ben and make your whole career out of bullshit jingoistic flag-waving and character assassination, nobody is going to feel sorry for you when you call the wahhmbulance. You wouldn’t have had mercy on us, Ben. So shut the fuck up, you sorry-ass bitch.
“I certainly was sloppier than I should have been, but the sense that I ever felt this was significant or this was dangerous or that there was ever anything to come out of it is just ridiculous.�
Hey, it’s often awkward and sloppy when you’re young and inexperienced. But you never failed to tell us that sex has consequences. Sorry, no abortions for Ben’s youthful indiscretions.
Their excuse-making and responsibility-avoiding never ceases to amaze me.
first it was the evil unnamed editors’ fault. then it was sloppy writing. then youth. and now it is all three, plus the fact that how could he have known at age 17 (while he was in college) that his theft would come back to haunt his career.
When Atrios was posting all of the examples I was wondering how Ben would respond. I am disappointed to see that he failed the character test.
But I guess it is all those crucial Christian values he wants to impose on the rest of us.
Now the wingnuts are attacking P.J o’Rourke for not covering Benny’s ass…hilarious
I propose an official cut-off age for charges of plagiarism.
Until you’re 24, or employed by Washingtonpost.com as a blogger (whichever comes first, you should be able to put your byline on anyone else’s work, without fear of it being used against you.
It’s only fair…
Let’s try this again:
Hey ben, is that a salad-spinner on a pixie stick, or are you just happy to see me?
Pinko, are you making whiner wiener jokes? Shame.
The best part of that whole P.J. O’ Rourke situation is that, after having been caught at a whole boatload of plagiarizing, li’l Ben then lies about O’ Rourke giving him permission to lift the article in question. It never occurs to him that anyone will ask O’ Rourke about this. Of course, someone does, and O’ Rourke is like, “Say whaaaa?!?” So, now the right is pissed that he won’t stand by quietly and let Baby Ben steal his stuff. Hilarious!
Even if O’Rourke had given Domenech permission to adapt a portion of O’Rourke’s book in a column, Domenech would have been required to acknowledge the original (O’Rourke) to avoid an accusation of plagiarism.
One thing that the right-wingers over at Red State appear to forget is that plagiarism is lying (passing off someone else’s work as one’s own), theft (stealing someone else’s work) and possibly a copyright infringement. It is interesting that the right-wingers would dismiss such issues so cavalierly.
Copyright infringement is a criminal offense, you know.
Just sayin’.
Ben plagirized for a movie review, and it was for the description of the movie. How hard is it to write a damn description of a Toy Story 2? Plot: Woody gets kidnapped by toy geek. It’s not some multilayered movie. He’s a lazy “writer”.
I plagiarized someone else’s work once in my life. I plagiarized a whole section of an Encyclopedia when I was in the fifth grade. I got caught, of course, as all plagiarists eventually do, especially those who publish widely. I find tha fact that Ben thought he could build an entire career on other people’s work to be indicative of a severe cognitive detachment from the entire rest of the thinking public. No wonder he should respond this way given he is so hyper-egocentric and narcissistically narrow-minded.
Like mr. x, I once copied an encyclopedia article (you guys know what those are, right?) in sixth grade, turned it in, and got caught. I wonder if maybe Ben’s home-schooling led to his downfall. Having only mommy reading his papers over the years, he never got caught when he was 10 or 11 and grew up thinking he could always get away with it.
So there, that’s it. It’s not his fault, it’s not PJ O’Rourke’s fault, and it’s not the evil un-named editors’ fault. It’s all his mommy’s fault.
When I was younger, we didn’t have this “internets” thing. The fact that nowadays your entire writing career can be online, searchable _and_ compared to other existing works within seconds… How did this guy _not_ think someone would find out?
Hell, in the tech field, it’s almost part of the interview process to have your prospective new employer Google your name and see what you’ve done, or what’s been said about you.
I still vaguely remember the quote that did me in all those years ago. Something along the lines of: “… ever since he was in three cornered pants…”
“How did this guy _not_ think someone would find out?”
b/c, like most of these sheltered little whiners that make up today’s GOP (following in the footsteps of their great leader Chimpy McHitlerBushBurtonEvilOneThousand)
he has never had to face a single consequence of his actions, in his life. Viewed from that perspective – where cause doesn’t ever beget action – their political views on, well, everything, actually kind of make sense.
hat tip for the “…But you fuck one….” joke.
One of my faves and applicable to nearly whatsoever purpose oned desires.
I just read some of the archived “RedState” comments, and would offer a word of caution. There may be retaliation coming, in the form of wingers taking legitimate liberal commentary, searching on the Net for language SIMILAR to it, and shouting a thousand strong, “Plagiarism!” They have learned that in this environment, if you say something often enough, it will stick, it will create doubt.
gjdodger, I’ll give that a lot of thought just as soon as I get that job offer from the Washington Post.
Ben was diagnosed with incurable and debilitating echolalia, and a very rare form that manifests itself in writing, as well as speaking. I think it’s unconscionable of you people to be laughing and mocking him.
Shame!
PS. I’m not lying.
I said in an earlier thread that I kind of felt sorry for him, but after reading his ‘defense’ that feeling completely evaporated.
Not plagiarizing is the minimum standard, not just in journalism, but also in academia, which is what you are a part of when you are a college freshman.
The fact that he’s trying to pin his chronic theivery on overzealous liberals makes him come off like a real cobag.
No wonder the redstaters love him.
I love how he acts like plagiarism is some high-falutin’ philosophical construct from the rarified pinnacles of journalistic meta-theory (if there even is such a thing), and how could a lowly 17 year old (working as a journalist) expect to know about such things, reserved as they are for the inner circle of those initiated by terrible and ancient rites into the world of journalism? I don’t know about you guys, but they told me about plagiarism when I was a freshman in college. It’s apparently a “big deal” that will get you kicked out of school. Come to think of it, they also mentioned it to us in high school. Oh, and junior high school. In fact, without using the “P-word” as such, I believe someone in grade school mentioned something along the lines of “don’t copy from Suzy’s paper, Little Res!”.
I guess they don’t have time for that sort of secularist propaganda in home school. They’re too busy learning…the Ten Commandments? Or maybe not.
… a man of principle, and an earnest young activist seeking not to advance himself — though advance he did — but the things he believed in.
And that young man was Richard Nixon … and now you know the rest of the story.
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