The Inveterate Wanker Rises Again
Posted on September 10th, 2009 by Tintin
ABOVE: After a hurricane toppled Bob Owens’s outhouse,
he demonstrates that Confederate Yankee ingenuity for
which he is so well known.
Only Slightly Shorter Bob Owens, Klan Yankee
Worshipping Protocol Over Truth
- Ah’m not lyin’ when ah sayuh that Joe Wilson wuzn’t lyin’ when he sayud that the Preznit was a lar, cuz the Preznit was a lar when he sayud that fahrurners wadn’t gonna git free hey-yealth care unner his plan. In fact, the Preznit reckons to have the gummut give ever single beaner a bran’ new Shovelay Impala each and ever time they go and see a doctor.* An the Preznit was lyin’ to evurbody in the whole galldayum country which is way worse than breakin’ some dayum fool pertycol rule in Congress. Ah reckon we’d have us a better Uhmurka if evertime the Preznit got up in fronta Congress, everbody wuz required to stannup and yell “Lar, Lar, Pants on Fire” the minute he sayud innithin.
‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™
*Sadly, no:
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The President’s seemingly simple statement, that “the reforms I am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally,” is not hard to check. In the Senate Finance Committee working framework for a health plan, which Obama’s speech seemed most to mimic, there is the line: “No illegal immigrants will benefit from the health care tax credits.” Similarly, the major health care reform bill to pass out of committee in the House, H.R. 3200, contains a Section 246, which is called, “NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.”
Similarly, the major health care reform bill to pass out of committee in the House, H.R. 3200, contains a Section 246, which is called, “NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS.”
Christ, the damn thing is even on line for Gomer to download – AND it’s a searchable PDF.
You might, um, think Rep. Wilson and Gomer would, like, you know, FUCKING READ THE GODDAMN THING before popping off about it.
Oh, right – an anonymous message on a mailing list trumps the truth. Of course.
In fact, the Preznit reckons to have the gummut give ever single beaner a bran’ new Shovelay Impala each and ever time they go and see a doctor.*
BUT WHAR’S MAH GREEL!?!?!?!?!
The distinction seems to be that the Democrats are proposing to withhold coverage from undocumented aliens, while the Republican base wants to withhold care from them (the argument ends up boiling down to “if some Illegal Mexican goes into an emergency room they’ll still be treated!!”). That is, in their ideal world, your migrant worker with a gut wound would get slapped into an ICE truck still bleeding, and maybe the strong Aryan doctor would guffaw loudly and point as it drove away.
No empathy.
in fact, I have a copy of the aforementioned document handy.
Page 143, lines 3 – 7:
Gawrsh, that seems PRETTY FUCKING CLEAR to me.
The distinction seems to be that the Democrats are proposing to withhold coverage from undocumented aliens, while the Republican base wants to withhold care from them (the argument ends up boiling down to “if some Illegal Mexican goes into an emergency room they’ll still be treated!!”)
Exactly this. I saw a commenter on CNN trying to “prove” Obama’s future healthcare bill will cover illegals by saying they can already go to emergency rooms for free now and that won’t change… !!
(the argument ends up boiling down to “if some Illegal Mexican goes into an emergency room they’ll still be treated!!”).
And that differs from private insurance…………..how, precisely?
Exactly this. I saw a commenter on CNN trying to “prove” Obama’s future healthcare bill will cover illegals by saying they can already go to emergency rooms for free now and that won’t change… !!
The clever counterargument, of course, is that if Obama’s plan requires insurance, then figuring out who’s undocumented will be a slam dunk, since they WON’T have insurance and we can sweep thru ERs and deport those who do not.
Which of course is just a sop to the low-normals. We’d never actually do that.
But but…DEY TUK R JARBS!
the argument ends up boiling down to “if some Illegal Mexican goes into an emergency room they’ll still be treated”
Not if the Death Panels do their job properly…
Ah reckon we’d have us a better Uhmurka if evertime the Preznit got up in fronta Congress, everbody wuz required to stannup and yell “Lar, Lar, Pants on Fire” the minute he sayud innithin.
I find it hard to believe, but I’m actually in agreement with Bob on this point.
*adjusting John Deere cap*
Ah gizz Ah nids a noo greel, two, naow…
Not if the Death Panels do their job properly…
Darth Vader finds gainful employment in a bad economy.
The clever counterargument, of course, is that if Obama’s plan requires insurance, then figuring out who’s undocumented will be a slam dunk, since they WON’T have insurance and we can sweep thru ERs and deport those who do not.
I guess they’re more likely to understand that than if we were to point out that by trying to kill reform they’re working to keep the “illegals get emergency care” status quo they claim to hate.
The distinction seems to be that the Democrats are proposing to withhold coverage from undocumented aliens, while the Republican base wants to withhold care
Not if the Death Panels do their job properly
I am always amused by the wingnut mind (not you, Ted, but those you’re channeling) because they can actually simultaneously hold two thoughts, one being “If the Guvmint bureaucrats can decide who deserves care they’ll kill my Granma” and the other being “How dare the Guvmint bureaucrats give care to those people I think don’t deserve it.”
Well yes but you can’t persuade them with facts. Just read his comments over there. This is never about Facts vs Lies, it’s about my tribe vs your tribe. Bob’s commenters are waving the NY Times article in their face, which only proves to them that you can’t trust the NY Times.
I have found that a two by four is a better instrument of persuasion.
Thank you for your constant, unending support of the toilet photoshop meme and your enduring belief that it is “original” and “cutting edge” and “funny.”
The most unfair part of this is that there’s probably some sort of ‘protocol” or something against standing up in Congress and calling the President a damn N-word, and this is repressive and infringes on the free speech rights of our Confederate-American members of Congress, the most discriminated-against group in all of America.
Sheesh, man, it’s a series, THEY’RE COLLECTIBLE.
Thank you for your constant, unending support of the toilet photoshop meme and your enduring belief that it is “original” and “cutting edge” and “funny.”
I was wondering how long it would take you to show up, Doug.
Here, enjoy our lovely guillotine.
Also, posting troll bait (because they love to come by crowing about every minor dip in anything as the End of The Carter Era):
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/10/cnn-poll-double-digit-post-speech-jump-for-obama-plan/
14 point jump. That’s not just poll noise, chundernuggets.
For a DEAD, DEAD, DEAD! reform, this seems to be awfully lively. Can we call it the Zombie Health Act now?
Thank you for your constant, unending support of the toilet photoshop meme and your enduring belief that it is “original” and “cutting edge” and “funny.”
Someone clearly still wears Pull-Ups.
Plus, WINGNUTS ON TERLETZ IS TEH FUNNY FOREVAH.
Don’t stop, Tintin, we love it. Plus, wingnuts take their guns to shit? That’s kind of fucked up, mah frenz.
Yes, see the argument made the lawyer professor at Le gal In sur rec tion and then the responses in comments starting from tqwhite and Just Me.
Plus, wingnuts take their guns to shit?
Happiness is a warm gun.
Hard to inform yourself of what’s actually in a bill when you can’t read.
Why is everyone here so predjudiced against ignorant hillbillies? Jesus. Have some fucking compassion.
Actor, don’t take this Beatles thing too seriously.
Can we call it the Zombie Health Act now?
I don’t want Mah Tax Dollahz™ going to people who didn’t have the good grace to just lay the fuck down when they died.
I don’t want Mah Tax Dollahz™ going to people who didn’t have the good grace to just lay the fuck down when they died.
We sooooo need a MiZ MannerZ for Zombies.
Dammit, wrong thread. ALSO:
http://www.beatallica.org/
I don’t want Mah Tax Dollahz™ going to people who didn’t have the good grace to just lay the fuck down when they died.
Also, see ref. Beatles.
Laid down, THEN GOT BACK UP AGAIN!!
Good GAWD!!
James BROWN, breathers. James BROWN.
Sheesh, man, it’s a series, THEY’RE COLLECTIBLE.
Like Pokemon!
“Toidychu, I choose you!”
Poopemon.
It’s apparently too hard to check for the Cornfed Yanker, since he isn’t backing off his position.
His position is that unless any reform takes specific measures to stop health care providers from continuing their current practice of not letting wetbacks die in gutters, then Obama is a liar when he says legislation which specifically does not apply to illegal immigrants does not apply to illegal immigrants.
So the nutters are in favor of death panels just as long as the death panel is comprised of just one person and they kill the brown people? I get so confused!
Actor, don’t take this Beatles thing too seriously.
Seconded. I hear they’re on the verge of breaking up anyway.
His position is that unless any reform takes specific measures to stop health care providers from continuing their current practice of not letting wetbacks die in gutters….
And when they die, what do we do with their bodies? Do we bury them in the US? That takes up land. Do we ship them back to wherever? That costs money. Do we let them rot and just step over them? Well, that’s not my first choice. I don’t think ConYank has thought this out.
I believe that’s spelled “furriner”
Wankee;s afraid that a government healthcare mandate will force him to have a chin installed.
Laid down, THEN GOT BACK UP AGAIN!!
Totally OT:
I saw an interesting thing yesterday while looking up stuff about zombies on Teh Wikipeedla… basically it made the point that Romero’s zombies didn’t so much transmit a disease through their bite, but instead their bite was inevitably fatal and once the person bitten died they were affected with whatever caused the dead to rise in the first place.
You got any opinions on this, ZRM?
“Yes, Mr. Owens, it’s about your failure to bring your lower face up to code…”
J, I love this one from those comments,
Yup. A fifth-term freshman. Oy. Also, yeah, because all the “experienced” wingers in DC are tripping over themselves kissing the President’s ass. Riiiiiight.
Shocked! I tell you.
And when they die, what do we do with their bodies?i>
Here’s a hint: you may just want to stop eating McRibs.
‘Nuff said.
Maybe I needz moar kofee.
Exactly this. I saw a commenter on CNN trying to “prove” Obama’s future healthcare bill will cover illegals by saying they can already go to emergency rooms for free now and that won’t change… !!
You know what would keep illegal aliens out of our emergency rooms? Not hiring them to do the most dangerous jobs without proper safety precautions and equipment! Of course, that would be infringing on the rights of the Masters of the Universe to maximize their profits by undercutting wages and externalizing costs. OSHA is theft!
WOLVERINES!!!INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENTS!!!!And when they die, what do we do with their bodies? Do we bury them in the US? That takes up land. Do we ship them back to wherever? That costs money. Do we let them rot and just step over them? Well, that’s not my first choice. I don’t think ConYank has thought this out.
Yo soy soylent!
Also, yeah, because all the “experienced” wingers in DC are tripping over themselves kissing the President’s ass.
See, all those wingnut teabaggers are just carrying guns for the President’s protection! Wheeee!
(Acutally based on a real argument by wingnuts… they claimed a few years back that, far from being a COINTELPRO target, the FBI was in fact keeping an eye on Martin Luther King for his own protection! Really.)
You know what would keep illegal aliens out of our emergency rooms? Not hiring them to do the most dangerous jobs without proper safety precautions and equipment!
Such as meatpacking and working in fields picking produce while same fields are being sprayed with insecticide. And suchlike that there.
Meatpacking, particularly. The present slaughterhouse industry relies heavily on undocumented workers since for some odd reason it’s hard to get Americans to work in steambaths covered with slippery blod and gore while carrying sharp instruments, unless you pay them a decent wage.
ZRM, I been holding on to this just for you.
Plus, wingnuts take their guns to shit?
Ah don think of it so much as an “outhouse” as mah own personal “2nd Amendment zone.”
I just have to share this WIN from the Great Orange Satan:
“Probable Beltway Evolution of Joe Wilson’s “You Lie!”
Ezra Klein
Joe Wilson’s “you lie” comment might be a great boon to the Democrats in their bid to pass health care.
EVOLVES TO
Michael Scherer (Time.com)
Joes Wilson broke decorum when he screamed “you lie” which may come back to hurt Republicans. Obama stared back at him and you could seem him twitch.
EVOLVES TO
Rush Limbaugh
And ladies and gentlemen Mr. Obama was calling Mr. Wilson a liar so he had to respond. Did you see the way that Obama twitched? Ladies and gentlemen that’s the type of twitch you see from the type of man Obama is (unsaid: Black) when he’s ready for a barroom fight or to push you aside and ravage your sister. We’ve all seen that twitch before and we’ve all known what it means.
EVOLVES TO
Drudge
Breaking Headline: Obama twitch is seen as a challenge not only to Wilson but anybody who disagrees with him. Obama wants a barroom fight – and watch your sister.
EVOLVES TO
Politico
“The Twitch” – major backlash on Obama’s response to Joe Wilson’s comment – while Wilson is nothing more than a back bencher, Obama raised his stature by using body language to make what feels like to a lot of people a direct threat, to Wilson, the Republicans and their sisters.
EVOLVES TO
Fox News
We are spending all day discussing “The Twitch,” which is getting people really riled up in the real America (show signs of teabaggers carrying signs saying “Don’t Twitch on Me!”) We have noted body language psychologist Dr. Kraz Y. Town to talk about it.
Town: Yes, I want to show you these pictures of Hitler speaking at Nuremberg. You see the same type of twitch.
EVOLVES TO
Sarah Palin (Twitter)
Don’t “Twitch on Me” buddy. I’ve seen that Twitch before and I know to get out of the room fast or I’m going to wind up with a black eye or pregnant
EVOLVES TO
George Will
The first thing a president must have is decorum. You would never see Ronald Reagan twitch like that, make that type of unabashed challenge to a lowly backbencher. Mr. Obama has done himself and his country a disservice.
EVOLVES TO
David Broder
While I understand that the comment was inappropriate all eyes were on Obama and not Joe Wilson. Obama broke comity and destroyed bipartisanship with that twitch. This is our town Mr. Obama and we don’t appreciate you twitching in it.
EVOLVES TO
Chris Mathews
Mathews: Hi, this is Chris Mathews on Hardball. We’re going to be talking about “The Twitch” with a Democratic consultant. Didn’t Obama make a real mistake with that Twitch?
Democratic Consultant: Well, I’ll admit it wasn’t Obama’s best moment, but he was doing it in response to a comment.
Mathews: Come on Joe Wilson is a nothing, a nobody, and hey, we all know what that twitch means. I’m a lunch bucket kind of guy, I’ve been in bars, I have a sister.
Democratic Consultant: Well we need to admit Obama made a mistake with the Twitch and try and move on and pass health care.
EVOLVES TO
Michael Scherer
Obama’s Twitch is causing him enormous trouble. It’s hard to believe this type of blowback. How did the White House lose control of an issue that should have played in their favor?
EVOLVES TO
Ezra Klein
As idiotic as the twitch is, it looks like it is going to doom the public option
justme: If you don’t mind my asking, are you the Just Me in the comments there?
Oopsie. Wrong linkie from daily GOS. Here’s the right one
Epic succeed!
Just askin’, but…
Where, exactly, is the ball on that trailer hitch?
J, no I’m not. Though I brought up a similar question elsewhere.
My rendition of this incredibly creative and unique nym is upper-case and space challenged.
I am always amused by the wingnut mind (not you, Ted, but those you’re channeling) because they can actually simultaneously hold two thoughts, one being “If the Guvmint bureaucrats can decide who deserves care they’ll kill my Granma” and the other being “How dare the Guvmint bureaucrats give care to those people I think don’t deserve it.” – g
A large part of wingnut religiosity is actually dedicated to cultivating this skill at cognitive dissonance. Butch Hancock (as quoted by the Good Rev. RMJ) explains how this indoctrination works thusly:
I guess we can add a third thing: “government is both incredibly incompetent and screws up everything yet (when ran by Democrats) is incredibly efficient at doing evil but also at (when ran by Republicans) fighting wars”.
The odd thing is that GOoPers when they get elected are actually able to both be incredibly incompetent at running government and also incredibly efficient at using the tools of government to do evil. So maybe the GOoPers aren’t that dumb after all … they just are projecting?
And when they die, what do we do with their bodies?
You overlook the potential zombie solution.
Just askin’, but…
Where, exactly, is the ball on that trailer hitch?
Well, he didn’t want to be known as a teabagger, so…
Where, exactly, is the ball on that trailer hitch?
Truck Nutz
You got any opinions on this, ZRM?
Well, I’ve never been a big Beatles fan, too occupied with metal during my younger years and punk later, but as I age and decompose, I start to see something there…. plus, I’m hoping to share a joint with Zombie George Harrison at some point, and have him teach me the solo to “While My Guitar Gently weeps”….
…what were we talking about?
According to Wilson, it was a “spontaneous” outburst.
right. Members were given copies of the speech in advance, of course, so how “spontaneous” could it be?
In related news, Rep. Wilson’s opponent – who lost by about 6 points last time – has raised circa $500,000 since last night.
What a shame.
Spontaneous outburst. Fine.
Next time, Wilson, break out in fire, mmmmmmmmmmmk?
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actor212 said,
September 10, 2009 at 21:16 (kill)
And when they die, what do we do with their bodies?
You overlook the potential zombie solution.
Suckin up the undeadz before the zombocalypse, are we actor?
I am always amused by the wingnut mind […] because they can actually simultaneously hold two thoughts
Double your pleasure; double your fun…
Suckin up the undeadz before the zombocalypse, are we actor?
Hey, I have never given to the Republican party!
You overlook the potential zombie solution.
Have the zombies take the meatpacking and fruitpicking jobs that the illegal aliens were doing?
You overlook the potential zombie solution.
Have the zombies take the meatpacking and fruitpicking jobs that the illegal aliens were doing?
Actually, I was thinking bureaucrats for the National Health Service.
it’s hard to get Americans to work in steambaths covered with slippery blod and gore while carrying sharp instruments
Some of us do that for a hobby, you know.
I thought only suicides became civil servants in the afterlife.
I’m hoping to share a joint with Zombie George Harrison at some point, and have him teach me the solo to “While My Guitar Gently weeps”….
I suspect that the late Mr. Harrison might disappoint you.
I should link
you know, sometimes SN comment threads become pop culture gumbo reference orgies that would befuddle a tag-team of Dennis Miller, Jon Stewart and Mike Nelson.
So, you know, good job. And step away from the computer once in a while, hey?
I suspect that the late Mr. Harrison might disappoint you.
yeh, him and every body else I’ve ever known. Why do you think I’m a zombie?
justme said,
September 10, 2009 at 21:47
I should link
No zombie she, but a colloidal silver user.
SAY NO TO VAXEENS!!!!1!!
Her cut marks are crosswise, which is incorrects. Any good cutter knows you have to cut along the tendons….
And step away from the computer once in a while, hey?
What? And give up Wikipedia, which is where I find half of my obscure Bunuelian tropes????
Sideways for sympathy, lengthwise for mortuary.
“Yo soy soylent!”
Ah, soylent verde. Adds a whole new meaning to the term “Mexican food.”
Lefttake.com is taking up a collection to ease Joe Wilson’s imminent retirement.
The most unfair part of this is that there’s probably some sort of ‘protocol” or something against standing up in Congress and calling the President a damn N-word
El Cid reads the same Balloon Juice thread:
Her cut marks are crosswise, which is incorrects. Any good cutter knows you have to cut along the tendons….
I thought those were “power bracelets” worn in tribute to Wonder Woman. That magenta hair is styled similarly to Madame Palin’s coif.
No zombie she, but a colloidal silver user.
Yeah, it’s gauche to be commenting on my own comment, but
Her sash even says “Miss Argent”.
In the latest news from an unemployed Facebook poster, when you point out that lies someone is telling about you are lies, you are lacking in civility.
Got that?
Oh, and talking about the cost of the Iraq war disrespects 9/11 victims. And special needs babies. Also.
Yankee patois simulation fail: All suthunuzz know that nothin burns lack a tar far. Probably on accounta theys made a all.
like that confederate yankee dude would have been able to get close enough to a fancy two-bit word like “protocol” to even be able to misspell it.
He probably thinks “protocol” is what W nearly choked on watching football.
like that confederate yankee dude would have been able to get close enough to a fancy two-bit word like “protocol” to even be able to misspell it.
He probably thinks it has something to do with the colon, and he is claiming that libruls value teh buttsecks over the Bible.
No way am I clicking through, though.
I suspect that the late Mr. Harrison might disappoint you.
Indeedly doodly
Yankee patois simulation fail: All suthunuzz know that nothin burns lack a tar far.
I blame the argot in the bread.
I see what you did, Herr Doktor!
Yo yo yo sadlies its been awhile no what i sayin hey holla now if you see my char-coal greeeeeeeeeyulllllll
so obamas socializin the nationalizin with marixst learnings yearnin for the truth, thats from pajama con connin da moonbats holla if you hear me sadlies
I suspect that the late Mr. Harrison might disappoint you.
Indeedly doodly
WHAT???
Next you’ll tell me he lifted “My Sweet Lord” heavily from a Chiffons record!
Why does RRBO sound like Bill Cosby doing a Jello Pudding commercial?
when you point out that lies someone is telling about you are lies, you are lacking in civility.
Calling someone a liar when they point out the lies you are telling are lies? Like TOTALLY THE CIVILEST THING EVAR.
I blame the argot in the bread.
Wry.
…what were we talking about?
The brain is always the first to go…
I blame the argot in the bread.
Wry.
These puns are going to cause pain, I can tell.
Who watched the speech? I thought many of the R’s looked _very_ uncomfortable. Nervous. Scared. The imaginary thought balloons on my TV (though I admit to occasional difficulty discerning which are real and which imaginary) said “oh fuck, he’s not playing nice nad wimpy, guck what are we gonna do now” And so on.
Did I imagine it all?
Youse guys got some crust, I tells ya
These puns are going to cause pain, I can tell
It will rise, to be sure.
yeah, so in the back of my mouldering brainz I KNEW clapton did that.
Clapton’s not a zombers, though. And I imagine that Harrison learned how to play the solo anyway, in order to play it live, right?
Pere Ubu obviously does not unnerstanz the Letter 13, nor the time 4:20. Short term memory loss can be yer frenz.
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actor212 said,
September 10, 2009 at 22:36 (kill)
Why does RRBO sound like Bill Cosby doing a Jello Pudding commercial?
umm, cuz that’s the only black guy he has any experience with? Jes’ spitballin, here…
I blame the argot in the bread.
Wry.
These puns are going to cause pain, I can tell.
It’s enough to make you hallah
Clapton’s not a zombers, though.
Are you sure? How else would you explain Unplugged?
Did I imagine it all?
Nope. they are feelin mighty butthurt today. Not often democrats call them on their bullshit, outside of the DFH blogs.
I wish you guys would take pita on me today with these puns.
The only people dumber than Yanker are, judging by their comments, his customary readers.
Are you sure? How else would you explain Unplugged?
Have not seen that one. after nirvana, and REM, and 10,000 maniacs, and Neil Young, the genre was exhausted. After that, you might as well be Great White….
I wish you guys would take pita on me today with these puns.
Don’t expect me to humuus you, carl.
After that, you might as well be Great White….
You’re a wonder, zrm.
actor, you knead the discipline.
Are you sure? How else would you explain Unplugged?
Old an uninspired would do it.
And Old does not mean over. witness Cash’s late output. Listening to him do Petty’s “Southern Accents” right now. Plus, “Hurt”
Your prejudice against bread puns means you’re baguetted.
You’re a wonder, zrm.
do I need to be offended?
It’s only by Brot force that I resist these puns.
I refuse to rise to these bread puns.
Leaves a sourdough taste in my mouth.
do I need to be offended?
D’oh! Didn’t realize how sarcastic that sounded.
Only a boule or a Frenchman would resist such good sport.
How bad can it be? It’s just a petit pain.
FYWP
Pere Ubu obviously does not unnerstanz the Letter 13, nor the time 4:20. Short term memory loss can be yer frenz.
Oh, I know the letter “13”. It comes right after the number “L”.
Only a boule or a Frenchman would resist such good sport.
Naan!
Yeast is yeast, I suppose, I just don’t want to be lefse behind…
Let’s be nice to our hosts.
You guys are just throwing these puns out there focaccia me in a weak moment! And that goes double for you, Alex!
All these hot, cross buns…you can’t fool me!
>i>Let’s be nice to our hosts.
I’m waffling on that.
Arepa you a new one, with all these hot cross buns!
FYWP
I’m waffling on that.
That’s no wafer you to behave.
All these puns really are on-topic, what with the picture of Gomer on teh chapati up top.
And he IS a cracker, after all.
You folks are on a roll (even if you are only in it for the dough.)
We’re reaching a crescent-o here.
Speaking of losing one’s head, this appropriate pairing from Wikipedia’s This Day In History thingie:
My staff of life. Let me show you it.
1945 – Mike the Headless Chicken was decapitated in a farm in Colorado; he survived another 18 months as part of sideshows before choking to death in Phoenix, Arizona.
Wow. Did he choke himself?
Think about it…
Since when is 1981 later than 1977?
Leaves a sourdough taste in my mouth.
We’d take up a collection to help, but you can’t pumpernickel out of these guys.
We’d take up a collection to help, but you can’t pumpernickel out of these guys.
I’m leavened this one alone.
WOLVERINESGLUTENS!!!Pumpernickel? That’s just sick.
Matzo, matzo man
I want to be, a matzo man….
A toast! To this heady bread thread!
Now you’re all just being cooky.
I lavash my hands of all of you.
Now you’re all just being cooky.
That’s painting us with a broad brioche.
I’m rolling on the floor, laffing. If only there was a shorter way to refer to that….
Wow. Did he choke himself?
Mike apparently was the world’s first circumcised chicken.
(Think about it…)
oh, god, that joke sucks rocks on a pogo stick.
Peez to be ignoring it.
Re:”While My Guitar Gently Weeps”
It was Harrison’s guitar though.
C’mon punk – you want a pizza me?
I was a punk before you were a Punk.
It cannoli get worse.
Getting slightly back onto topic, let me be the first to chide Tintin for misspelling ‘invertebrate’ in the title.
Enter the Matzoi.
Ah, jeez louise, some numbnuts over at Newsweek named John Barry waxes poetic about “dissent” and Joe “Rico Suave” Wilson:
Obama’s address last evening wasn’t an American version of the Queen’s speech. He wasn’t appearing as head of state, handing down nation-building sentiments from on high. He was talking as embattled leader of the ruling party. So why was dissent, politely phrased, out of order?
Oy. Someone Does Not Get It.
The weasel got his wife too.
It cannoli get worse.
I’ll be croissant that one off my list.
OK, the Beatallica link goes unremarked?
peuseurs. Shan’t be back, etc…..
Am I wrong, or is there supposed to be respect shown
the president at a formal joint meeting of Congress.
Oddly, I believed the civility, manners, and dignity were
presumed to take place during a joint session.
The republicans behaved like the bad kids in junior
high when they didn’t get their way, the would disrupt
the class out of spite or contempt. It seems that many
republicans have not yet learned that the display of
disrespect is exactly what they feel about their
constituents. This is proven by the crap they talk their
followers into believing and parroting.
Just when one suspects that a republican can go no
lower another republican proves him wrong. They
seem to glory in their deceits, become arrogant in
their delusions, and waste most of their time selling
themselves to the highest bidder. This behavior is
said to exist among all humans, but it would be
closer to being true if one said that the behavior is
common to a particular type of human – authoritarians
who are not reigned in by the law, the Constitution or
government regulations, because they are a self-
proclaimed superior class, which is as unAmerican
as a citizen of the U.S. can be.
We know who the terrorists are. They are the one’s
who have spent a great deal of capital keeping the
people fearful. The promotion of cowardice seems
to have served them well.
named John Barry
Aaah, he should go back to scroing films.
Well, you scroed that one up, pal.
Whatever happened to all the “oh we must respect the office if not the man” bullshit we got for eight fucking years from the GOP, anyway?
Oh, right. President Black Man.
*NVM holds up number card. Claps knees to applaud.*
The weasel got his wife too.
Then she went back and so the weasel turned to the white horse.
The weasel got his wife too.
Rizzzzzzzzz?
The promotion of cowardice seems
to have served them well.
This.
remember when cowardice, timidity, and fear were NOT being put forward as American Values?
Cowardice: The insistence that the only recourse to international disagreement was aerial bombardment of countries that have no ability to respond in kind.
Timidity: The insistence that we do not have the ability to make the world better….
Fear: The insistence that changes to the status quo will necessarily and as a result cause disaster….
Sounds like the basic Troll menu.
sorry to distract from the breadstuff punnery.
Maybe I am too baked.
bread puns made me laugh so hard I injera’d myself.
Crepe! Nowhere taco!
Bread thread is completely fougasse.
you guys knead help.
So why was dissent, politely phrased, out of order?
Miss Manners says: Fuck you, you fucking fuck.
Miss Zombie Manners also says: You’re an asshole.
That’s a challa’ve a way to keep a thread going.
You guys are all a panini ass.
Yes and wich of youse fed the in-bred photo spread?
Sub par.
Slice ‘im.
‘Sr’? Inquiring minds would like to see Señor Wilson’s immigration papers.
Unless he tacked it on so there would be one part of his name that was not an endocrine disease.
OK, own up whoever it was, or the whole class will have to stay in.
While some may find these bread puns crumby, I really appreciate their rye sense of humor.
I can’t believe the depths to which you folks will crescent.
You are all pretty flaky.
Inquiring minds would like to see Señor Wilson’s immigration papers
Birth certificate long form?
New R talking point: Obama says he wants a bipartisan bill but hasn’t met with us!
Except, you know, he did, plus they’ve been GONE since early August.
Goddamit, http://senatus.wordpress.com/2009/07/15/murkowski-issues-statement-after-health-reform-meeting-with-obama/
Not to disregard the bread puns, but this:
kristol. This. The Right and the corporate world are terrified at the idea that the Democrats might institute effective, popular policies. Last time this happened, they were out of power for a generation.
Let’s help them revisit that experience, shall we?
We can do butter.
Flaky? Hell, we’re the upper crust here, pal.
For those of you who believe in the narrative of Afghanistan being the “good war” and Iraq being the “bad war”, you should read this:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203440104574402822520657510.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Iraq and 9/11 WERE related.
I’ve got muffin but respect for you guys.
tigrismus, I am as jumpy as anybody outside of FDL, but that link is just to a quote from Murkowski, saying what she would say no matter what they ever talked about.
What did you want her to say, “I walked out of there with him dripping out of me”?
Dude, toke up and relax a bit. Put on some Floyd.
For those of you who believe that the Wall Street Journal has a relevant, intriguing editorial page, you should suck this:
my dick
Bread puns? You guys are biga dorks. I should batard you all until you’re lying in pain in a poolish of your own blood, and then I’m levain.
Iraq and 9/11 WERE related in that George W. Bush allowed one to happen and illegally and insanely caused the other.
Iraq and 9/11 WERE related.
Did you actually read that article?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Yes. It said we had to take the fight to the Arab world, that attacked us, and we did in Iraq.
Zombie, the link is just to show that the meeting actually took place and to show the date.
It’s the yeast you can do.
If the United States had to take the fight to the Arab world, why did they invade a secular dictatorship?
I know, to kill the brown people. I shouldn’t have asked.
Read the article, and you’ll see why.
Saddam Hussein was a symbol of Arab strength and defiance of America, and we had to take him down to send a message that you don’t fuck with the USA and get away with it.
He simply drew the short straw. He was the easiest Arab dictator to get at and take out, and we did. And we won.
Except, you know, he did, plus they’ve been GONE since early August.
Let’s face it – they’ve been gone for much, much longer than that.
And hey, Trolly McTrollypants – Eat 9/11 shit with 9/11 ketchup, you fucking 9/11 exploiting shithole fuckmaggot.
Does the troll even listen to himself when he talks?
That guy’s one bubble short of a popover.
Never Forget – it would have been better for everyone if you and W had just taken the penis enlargement pills and popped some Viagra.
What a surprise.
Don’t bogart the Viagra. Little Paco’s a fighter.
and we had to take him down to send a message that you don’t fuck with the USA and get away with it.
O yeah, THAT’S the message the rest of the world will take.
Not that that America is willing to piis away all her money and blood in order to enrich several corporations and the military-industrial complex, until the military is depleted and anemic and unable to respond to anything else.
O yea, THAT’S a helluva ‘message’. Mission Accomplished, asshats.
I can’t understand why don’t crust you anymore.
Yes. It said we had to take the fight to the Arab world, that attacked us, and we did in Iraq.
He says “Those were not Afghans who had struck American soil on 9/11,” but you know, they weren’t Iraqis either. Wiki: “Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt, and one from Lebanon.” Plus there’s something like 400 million Arabs in the world, including Christians and Jews, do you really think an attack on any majority Arab nation is justifiable based on the actions of those 19 people?
Well, yeah. They’re not white.
“pils” = “Piss”
not a veiled beer reference.
tigrismu, Arabs see themselves as one nation and it was humiliating and humbling for them to see one of their anti-American strongmen get his ass handed to him, ending with him being hanged by the neck until dead. Every wannabe anti-American arab dictator will think of that image for decades into the future.
Saddam Hussein was a symbol of Arab strength and defiance of America, and we had to take him down to send a message that you don’t fuck with the USA and get away with it.
Hmm. That would be the interpretation expected from someone with a second grade reading level.
Have you by any chance incorporated a web-based advertising company lately?
Actually, a good number of them are. Just like there are Israelis that are black. Please don’t try to play the race card, you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.
Saddam Hussein was a symbol of Arab strength and defiance of America, and we had to take him down to send a message that you don’t fuck with the USA and get away with it.
Oh, I see. We bankrupt our own country, kill 4000+ of our citizens and uncounted thousands of civilians as a war on a “symbol”.
That’s pathetic.
Although that statement is a blueprint of wingnut moral principle.
Actually, Iraq was the best thing that happened to us in years. Oops.
G, it showed we’re willing to go to the mat with our enemies and aren’t some “paper tiger” like bin Laden accused us of being after Clinton cut and ran from Somalia after Black Hawk Down.
Saddam Hussein was a symbol of Arab strength and defiance of America, and we had to take him down to send a message that you don’t fuck with the USA and get away with it.
Ha, that or “don’t be an ally of the US, because they’ll turn on you as soon as its expedient.” Or maybe “don’t be the same ethnic group as somebody who attacks the US, because if they can’t get the actual culprits you’ll do in a pinch.”
Parody troll brings double strength st00pid tonight.
I don’t suppose people could just ignore it for once?
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Saddam Hussein was a symbol of Arab strength and defiance of America, and we had to take him down…
Which was why we pulled all our soldiers out immediately after that uber-creepy Saddam hanging and Gee Dumbya’s trophy-taking of the pistol that he’d rub on his thighs in the Oval Office.
Arabs see themselves as one nation
Izzat so?
Afghanistan isn’t an Arabic nation.
I love this frickin’ idiot who pretends he knows something about so-called “Arab culture” to discuss foreign relations with a non-Arabic nation.
I don’t suppose people could just ignore it for once?
…sorry. I’ll leave it alone.
G, I KNOW Afghanistan isn’t Arab, I never said it was. I said Iraq is. We had to attack Iraq too BECAUSE Afghanistan isn’t Arab.
it showed we’re willing to go to the mat with our enemies
Actually, Bush did exactly what Bin Laden wanted him to do. Bankrupt our country, compromise our principles of democracy, and lower the standing of the US in the world. Good call!
QED and such as. Also.
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And you’re right, this is some powerful stupid.
Saddam Hussein was a symbol of Arab strength and defiance of America, and we had to take him down to send a message that you don’t fuck with the USA and get away with it.
What’s this “we” shit white man?
I fought Saddam in ’91. Don’t recall seeing you there.
G, it showed we’re willing to
go to the mat with our enemiesbankrupt ourselves to deflect attention from the real problems here that our corporately-owned government will not allow us to address andaren’t some “paper tiger” like bin Laden accused us of being after Clinton cut and ran from Somalia after Black Hawk Downthat we can be defeated pretty easily by a handful of intractable opponents while spending ourselves into the poorhouse.Fix’d yer brainfart.
We had to attack Iraq too BECAUSE Afghanistan isn’t Arab.
OK, you win the parody troll contest. You get a dinner with Sarah Palin, her husband, and three other guests of her choice. But only if she approves of you. And you have to share your shrimp cocktail with her. And she always gets the right end of the wishbone. Also.
Who should we have attacked when the French pissed us off, Sweden? or Greenland?
Rumsfeld wanted to attack Iraq after 9/11 instead of Afghanistan because “We have good targets in Iraq. We don’t have good targets in Afghanistan”.
That’s like the guy who was looking for his lost car keys on the other side of the street because “the light’s better over here”.
Saddam Hussein was (a) a symbol of Arab strength
and (b) the easiest Arab dictator to get at and take out.
Of course he is going to pretend that we did what he wanted us to do NOW. But he sure wasn’t saying that was his plan in the ’90s. It was all “paper tiger” and “weak horse” etc. Now that his back is to the wall he has to pretend like everything is fine to boost the morale of his flunkies.
Arabs see themselves as one nation and it was humiliating and humbling for them to see one of their anti-American strongmen get his ass handed to him, ending with him being hanged by the neck until dead. Every wannabe anti-American arab dictator will think of that image for decades into the future.
Well, the first is an assertion with no support provided. The second statement might be true, at least in the sense that the image of America crushing an Arab nation for something they were innocent of will be long remembered by other Arabs, but you and I would obviously disagree on the reasons. I think it is an example of gross injustice, and I also think that rather than discouraging terrorism it will encourage it. Remember, 9/11 was not committed by an Arab dictator or strongman, but by a former businessman with no political power in ANY Arab nation, least of all in the one we attacked, and the rhetoric with which he gained followers and convinced them to attack us was by focusing on such perceived injustices and abuses of power.
We had to attack Iraq too BECAUSE Afghanistan isn’t Arab.
And you don’t see how truly repulsive this is?
I love how the left says taking out a brutal, vicious dictator is an “injustice”.
And it was a damn shame George H.W. Bush didn’t march you all the way to Baghdad and finish the job right then and there. Horrible President.
How about slamming two jet planes into skyscrapers filled with innocent people? Is that repulsive?
And you’re right, this is some powerful stupid.
Nahhh, it’s weak and shitty, poor-ass trolling. The RNCC hasn’t managed to dig out from the butthurt Obama delivered last night, and the trolls have to retread tired old “American exceptionalism” and “brown people must die” tropes.
Even I can’t be arsed to respond, and I am an inveterate troll-baiter.
Best be going back to the bread puns. stay out of the french.
“I think that the proposition of going to Baghdad is also fallacious. I think if we we’re going to remove Saddam Hussein we would have had to go all the way to Baghdad, we would have to commit a lot of force because I do not believe he would wait in the Presidential Palace for us to arrive. I think we’d have had to hunt him down. And once we’d done that and we’d gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and his government, then we’d have had to put another government in its place. What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni government or Shi’i government or a Kurdish government or Ba’athist regime? Or maybe we want to bring in some of the Islamic fundamentalists? How long would we have had to stay in Baghdad to keep that government in place? What would happen to the government once U.S. forces withdrew? How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable? I think it is vitally important for a President to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it’s my view that the President got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq. ”
Dick Cheney
Ronald Reagan and Saddam Hussein: Kissing Cousins.
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How about slamming two jet planes into skyscrapers filled with innocent people? Is that repulsive?
And so we just decided that retaliating against someone from the same fucking hemisphere as the guys who did it was “close enough”?
Dick Cheney found out how wrong he was after 9/11. Of course George H.W. Bush and Schwarzkoffnever apologized.
Dick Cheney was also a horrible president.
Let’s see……
19 fanatics crashing a plane into skyscrapers, killing innocent people to make a statement and drive fear into the hearts of the Western World.
One country unleashing “Shock ‘n Awe” (TM) on another country, killing innocent people to make a statement and drive fear and terror into the hearts of the Muslim World.
Hmmmmm…..how are these different?
The stupid is strong with this one.
How about slamming two jet planes into skyscrapers filled with innocent people? Is that repulsive?
What does that have to do with it? You’ve already admitted Iraq had nothing to do with it except they share an ethnicity. Would you send Woody Allen to jail for Bernie Madoff’s crimes?
The fact that we supported Saddam Hussein at one time made it an even bigger moral imperative for us to take him out.
Of course he is going to pretend that we did what he wanted us to do NOW.
“I meant to do that?”
That’s REALLY what you want to hang your political hat upon?
go for it, says this zombie. Muffin off MY nose.
Because, if we’d gone to Baghdad, we would have been all alone. There wouldn’t have been anybody with us. It would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq…. Once you got to Iraq, and took it over, and took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you going to put in its place?… If you take down the central government of Iraq, you can easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. It’s a quagmire if you go that far. The question for the President, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad and took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein was, How many additional dead Americans was Saddam worth. And our judgment was, Not very many, and I think we got it right.
Dick Cheney
Fucking Christ, Troofie! You’ve gotta quit eating those paint chips. I know you want out of the basement, but chewing on the windowsill won’t help. That window’s too high and narrow for you to crawl out of.
Iraq was the only country in the Moslem world (not the Arab world, numbnuts—the Moslem world as a whole) that didn’t bend over backwards to placate the Mullahs. Osama bin Laden hated them a hell of a lot more than he hated us. We couldn’t have done him a bigger favor if we elected him POTUS. (Oops! I know You think we just did that!)
All we did was demonstrate that no secular government like that can endure in a Moslem county. Good job, Brownie!
Also: how dare you go after Schwarzkoff [sic]? If any general by that name existed, you should know that criticizing a general means a congressional resolution that says you’re mean. Commie.
G, we weren’t intentionally targeting civilians. That’s what is different.
I know those on the appeasing left would just have us sit down with Al Qaeda and Arab dictators and try to “understand” all the “injustices” we committed and then grovel to them and apologize, but that’s not what a Commander-in-Chief does.
Troofie (I’ll go with that even though it types better than the regular twoof) at least managed to fit in for once, by bringing the fruitcake.
So what would you have wanted a President Gore to do after 9/11? Please be specific.
G, we weren’t intentionally targeting civilians. That’s what is different.
The utter moral bankruptcy of this speaks for itself.
Shorter g:
The US military is the moral equivalent of the 9/11 hijackers.
Let’s distinguish between what the troll is saying that’s true and what’s untrue. He’s right in that the neoconservative justification for invading Iraq had nothing to do with WMD, or Saddam being evil, or Saddam having anything to do with 9/11. As Jonah Goldberg paraphrased Michael Ledeen, the neocon approach to war is to pick a crappy little country and throw it against the wall to show we mean business.
He’s wrong in that he’s pretending that baldly asserting neoconservative philosophy as fact serves as an argument. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 in the sense that normal, sane people read it. If Bush had come before the American people and told them that it was time to kick the shit out of Iraq to intimidate the rest of the Arab world, he might have a point. Of course, that’s not a casus belli — going to war to prove your prowess is called “aggressive war” and is illegal by international law.
So, if the neocons want to claim the Iraq war was a matter of broader foreign policy, they’re welcome to it — but they’re admitting to starting a war of aggression, and they’d better book some tickets to the Hague.
Bush listened to the briefing, then told the CIA briefer: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”
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If Iraq was an “illegal war”, so was what Clinton did to Kosovo. Serbia never attacked us, and he didn’t get U.N. approval!
So should Bill Clinton “book tickets to the Hague”?
BTW, everyone thought Iraq had WMDs, including the British, French, German, Russians, and the current Vice President and Secretary of State.
The US military is the moral equivalent of the 9/11 hijackers.
False equivalency. The US military didn’t make the decision. It’s more like this:
The
US militaryBush Administration is the moral equivalent of the 9/11 hijackers.Pretty much true. After all, you said it yourself – they decided to invade Iraq to “send a message” – the same reason Al Queda decided to attack the US.
I thought leftists don’t believe in the “Nuremberg defense”?
G, we weren’t intentionally targeting civilians. That’s what is different
O shit, this is just so stupid.
So what kind of consolation is that to the hundreds of thousands of civilians dead in IRAQ? And their families?
O, I guess they were all ‘terrorists’, because they were dusky hued. Let’s, however, remember things like this:
http://www.ccmep.org/usbombingwatch/amputee.jpg
That is one threatening brown person there. Troll, you are a repulsive subhuman. If you had a conscience, you coouldn’t close your eyes without seeing pictures like these.
Why don’t I send you photos of people jumping out of burning skyscrapers to their deaths?
I know those on the appeasing left would just have us sit down with Al Qaeda and Arab dictators and try to “understand” all the “injustices” we committed and then grovel to them and apologize, but that’s not what a Commander-in-Chief does.
Straw man. What does that have to do with attacking an uninvolved country based purely on shared ethnicity?
If Iraq was an “illegal war”, so was what Clinton did to Kosovo. Serbia never attacked us, and he didn’t get U.N. approval!
Tu quoque, red herring. If you want to push for war crimes, knock yourself out, Chomsky.
I’ll ask again:
What would you have advised a President Gore to do after 9/11?
I’m not sure he would have done much different, especially since Bill Clinton repeatedly asserted Saddam had WMDs. Was Clinton a liar and a “war criminal” too?
So what would you have wanted a President Gore to do after 9/11?
Gore would NOT have ignored the August 2001 PDBs stating “Bin Laden Determined to strike In U.S.” He would not have ignored Richard Perle’s warnings. I suspect the Twin Towers would still be standing.
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Takes a Republican to destroy America.
Same to you with Bush. I notice that hasn’t gone very far, and probably never will. The U.N. doesn’t matter in the real world, it’s a nice fig leaf if you can get it, but they’re about as powerful as the Continental Congress and twice as useless.
So, if the neocons want to claim the Iraq war was a matter of broader foreign policy, they’re welcome to it — but they’re admitting to starting a war of aggression, and they’d better book some tickets to the Hague.
We already have an obligation to send those thugs to the Hague for violating our treaty obligation not to torture, Djur.
This convention bans torture under all circumstances and establishes the UN Committee against Torture. In particular, it defines torture, requires states to take effective legal and other measures to prevent torture, declares that no state of emergency, other external threats, nor orders from a superior officer or authority may be invoked to justify torture. It forbids countries to return a refugee to his country if there is reason to believe he/she will be tortured, and requires host countries to consider the human rights record of the person’s native country in making this decision.
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So what would you have wanted a President Gore to do after 9/11? Please be specific.
Attack Afghanistan and not divert forces for an unnecessary invasion of Iraq on the advice of a bunch of neoconservative think-tank intellectuals.
I thought leftists don’t believe in the “Nuremberg defense”?
Straw man argument, and false equivalency again.
According to your own statement, for which you voice whole-hearted approval, the planners of 9/11 and the planners of the war in Iraq committed those acts for EXACTLY THE SAME REASON – to terrify people they disagreed with.
You even said you thought it was a good idea. Are you running away from your own argument now?
It’s “shared culture”, not ethnicity, a sick culture where people hijack airplanes and ram them into skyscrapers, and then celebrate on the streets after it happens. We needed to change that culture, and Iraq became the model.
G, we weren’t intentionally targeting civilians.
Yeah, we killed ours “by accident”.
Pretty much a constant stream of “accidents”.
You’d think the military was pretty damn incompetent the way those “accidents” kept happening over and over and over.
Of course, then again, there were the tank shelling of the Hotel Palestine and the airstrikes on the Al Jazeera stattions, which were indeed targeting civilians. But never mind all that. Oh, and shooting at ambulances in Fallujah. But other than that, nope never.
To terrify the Arab leadership, firstly, not the people. Secondly, afterwards, to change their culture and introduce western democracy. Only a war could accomplish that under those circumstances, and it did.
Why don’t I send you photos of people jumping out of burning skyscrapers to their deaths?
You probably keep them and look at them often.
I think the US likely committed war crimes under Clinton in both Kosovo and Iraq, yes. And the ongoing sanctions regime in Iraq was a crime against humanity.
However, the claimed justification for the war in Kosovo was to prevent ethnic cleansing in process. This is arguably a justification for war — I’m not going to argue it, though. That wasn’t the justification used for invading Iraq, and it isn’t relevant.
And the Nuremberg defense isn’t about participation in an illegal war and you know it. Simply fighting in an illegal war is not a war crime.
So who let Bill Kristol in here?
Pere, keep it up. You could advise Al-Zawahiri on what to say in his next video!
Funny, I never hear calls from the left for Obama to investigate Clinton. Oh, wait, he made the wife of a “war criminal” (according to you) his Secretary of State! Oh, the irony!
Who cares? According to the left if you aren’t attacked first or don’t get U.N. approval, it is “illegal” and a “war crime”. Be consistent.
I don’t recall seeing you in Kosovo when I was there either.
Land in Afghanistan after coming up with some sort of a fucking PLAN about how we are going to bring down the Taliban government and capture Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. Stay there until that’s accomplished. NOT start withdrawing troops after one week so we could go invade some third country that had nothing to do with the matter. Most of all, NOT sweep across Afghanistan from west to east like it was fucking D-Day, carefully chivvying Osama and Omar to safety across the border in Pakistan.
(Of course, it would be nice if you ask yourself beforehand if a war where your enemies can escape into safety on the soil of your putative ally is any war you want to get involved in in the first fucking place, but that’s another question.)
Last time I checked, we have an all-volunteer army and civilian control of the military. So can it it with the “chickenhawk” bullshit. By claiming that only those who served can have opinions about military policy, you’re inadvertantly endorsing militarism.
So who let Bill Kristol in here?
This crappy troll is dishonoring my friends who died on 9/11 with its rehash of discredited neocon propaganda.
Die in a fire, parody troll.
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Who cares? According to the left if you aren’t attacked first or don’t get U.N. approval, it is “illegal” and a “war crime”.
So, in order to attack the “shared culture”, we attacked people who weren’t Arabs, and then people who were highly secular Muslims.
To get at the ultra-fundamentalist Arabs in Saudi Arabia.
Y’know, we could’ve just… attacked Saudi Arabia, and gotten to the crux of the problem. What, are you saying the American military was too much of a pussy to actually fight someone that could fight back?
I’m waiting for one of the leftists here to lose it and blurt out that the bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Kosovo was intentional and a war crime, and that Clinton should be tried in the Hague. If you held people in your own party to the same standard as Bush, that’s exactly what you would be doing right now.
Also, you’d demand the same for Obama since he’s intentionally (according to you) killing civillians in Afghanistan.
It’s “shared culture”, not ethnicity, a sick culture where people hijack airplanes and ram them into skyscrapers, and then celebrate on the streets after it happens. We needed to change that culture, and Iraq became the model.
There’s a similar culture on Wall Street, a sick culture where people dedicated to ripping off other people and ruining their lives high-five each other on every successful scam. We need to change that culture, so I suppose this means we must declare war on schoolteachers.
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The Bush administration’s accused crimes are more recent, more heinous, more certain, and more numerous than Clinton’s. Furthermore, they come more clearly under United States legal jurisdiction (torture, wiretapping, illegal imprisonment, false cause for war). If partisan investigations of war crimes are an issue for you, then we can sign on to the ICC and have international crimes investigated independently of national politics.
I did not say Bill Clinton is a war criminal. I haven’t said George W. Bush is a war criminal, either.
I suppose this means we must declare war on schoolteachers.
Like they’d notice. It’d be like declaring war on Amtrak.
Plus, wingnuts take their guns to shit? That’s kind of fucked up, mah frenz.
—For Whom the Bell Tolls
Oh, now THERE’S a great idea. Give the same international organization (the U.N.) that put Libya and Sudan on the “Human Rights Commission” the power to investigate our officials. /sarcasm
I don’t see “the left” around here, just me and some people. What some unnamed and unnumbered people have said about something at some point at some time is irrelevant to my argument. I’ve never said what you’re claiming.
I’m also done with this. Sorry for the diversion, folks.
By claiming that only those who served can have opinions about military policy, you’re inadvertantly endorsing militarism.
I never said that you couldn’t have an opinion. I just said that your opinion was incredibly stupid. And that you’re a big wuss.
You do realize they’d end up investigating and convicting Obama for “crimes” too, right?
You do realize they’d end up investigating and convicting Obama for “crimes” too, right?
You do realize you’re an incredible waste of DNA, right?
Somewhere in the world, a railway line is missing its traincrash.
And?
Know what?
Fuck you, Charlie Chucklenuts.
Badger time.
Also, you’d demand the same for Obama since he’s intentionally (according to you) killing civillians in Afghanistan.
I’m just saying that sledgehammers don’t make very good flyswatters.
Last time I checked, we have an all-volunteer army and civilian control of the military. So can it it with the “chickenhawk” bullshit.
So Major Kong volunteered, served honorably, and has more knowledge of the reality of war that you can reasonably chivvy together from your viewings of John Wayne and Ronald Reagan movies.
It’s not necessary to fight the wars to have an opinion about them. However, in the spirit of RESPECTING THE TROOPS, maybe you could listen a bit to one of the people who was willing to pay the price for your insane military adventurism?
You cobag.
Finally!
Blessed silence, or the blog equivalent thereof.
Ok. The majority of the military voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Why don’t you listen to that?
It’s “shared culture”, not ethnicity, a sick culture where people hijack airplanes and ram them into skyscrapers, and then celebrate on the streets after it happens. We needed to change that culture, and Iraq became the model.
You obviously don’t merely mean Arabs as an ethnic group, which includes sub-groups of Christians, Jews, etc, you mean Muslims. The problem remains that you take the actions of a very few and extrapolate to an entire group, for no good reason and with no evidence given that the extrapolation is valid. Then you approve of an action guaranteed not to solve any problem, and in fact more likely to provide fuel and propaganda material to the minority of haters within the larger group.
Here’s something else I believe: if my company overpays Joe in May, and Joe quits in June, and then in July the company figures out they overpaid him for May but he’s gone now and fat chance getting the money out of him, then they should just take that money out of my pay. They are the boss, after all, and I’d hardly be able to respect their authoritah if they didn’t exercise it to their full advantage. They’ve earned the right to throw their weight around, and if it’s easier to throw their weight at me than it is at Joe, then what do you expect them to do?
I’ll remember this the next time you refer to Israelis as “whites”.
Or Palestinians as “brown”, for that matter.
Because the majority of the military is still a minority compared to the majority that elected our President, Barack Hussein Jamal Mohammed Khalid Obama X, and rejected another fucking white guy with skin cancer and a moose-eating psychotic.
And in this country, majority WINS.
And you know what? I support what Obama is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan (endorsing the Bush positions, essentially). I bet you don’t.
OK, as a member of Tha Left, I opposed invading Afghanistan in 2002 also.
Do I win a fucking prize for being consistent and RIGHT, chucklenuts?
The majority of the military voted for John McCain
The majority of AMERICANS voted for Obama. why do you hate your fellow citizens, pooptrousers?
Yes, shocking. We continue to not support that policy.
St. Trotsky is Honorary Zombie.
And what would you have done then had you been President? Sit down for tea with bin Laden? Apologize for “American crimes” and hope that stops further attacks? What?
Well, I’d have to be, what with the ice axe in my head.
Funny, I never hear calls from the left for Obama to investigate Clinton.
Funny, at the time the ONLY calls I heard to investigate Clinton on Kosovo were from the left. Not that it is germane to a discussion of the rightness or wrongness of attacking one country for the actions of citizens of other countries based on irrelevant shared characteristics.
I dunno, maybe… invade the den of Wahhabi in Saudi Arabia? Perhaps keep up the policing and investigative route to counter-terrorism instead of throwing a firestorm at two uninvolved countries with no real talent for rebuilding? Arrest bin Ladin for crimes against humanity and try him in court?
Oh, but why do that when we have a country to throw against a wall to show we still have a big cock.
And what would you have done then had you been President?
I would have paid attention to the warnings and prevented the attack, rather than playacting at rancher with an armful of brush.
You heinous toad.
Oh, and don’t get in a land war in Central Asia.
Actually most of the calls I’ve heard for Clinton to be investigated on Kosovo come from the Paleoconservative crowd (Buchanan, Rockwell, Anti-War.com et. al.) who deny there was no genocide in Serbia and are also borderline apologists for Hitler. Nice allies you got there!
Give credit to the excess human baggage that is the troll by staying with the theme. I hadn’t thought about dung bread (Ez. 4:12) in some while.
The majority of the military voted for John McCain
I can has non-arse-related evidence please?
And the Taliban laughs in your face and tells you “fuck off, western pig, we’re not handing him over. He’s our “guest”. And the Jews did it, anyway”.
Then what?
deny there was no genocide in Serbia
Well, then we are in agreement, if the paleoconservatives are phrasing very oddly. There was not not a genocide in Serbia.
I’ll remember this the next time you refer to Israelis as “whites”.
What would that have to do with anything, were I to do it?
I meant to say “deny there was a genocide in Serbia”.
Again, nice allies you got there. Hitler apologists, isolationists, and other assorted loons.
We arrest bin Ladin?
Don’t really see a need to invade and occupy Afghanistan because the Taliban have shitty diplomats.
a country to throw against a wall to show we still have a big cock.
…PRETEND we have a cock that can still get hard.
Please. As George Carlin said, “Rockets and Penises in The Persian Gulf”
Then what?
Then we invade Iraq, without enough troops or any kind of plan for securing it or rebuilding it.
The left, like Arabs and Muslims, is not a monolithic group.
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Then what?
Then we invade Iraq, without enough troops or any kind of plan for securing it or rebuilding it.
????
Profit!!
…Well, somebody was going to say it, might as well be the trolling zombie.
Back on-pun….
hey, maybe Studie is done baking?
Also, who’s been making allies with the paleoconservatives? One would kind of imagine that if we were allies, they’d be paleoleftists, instead of well, you guys. I hate those motherfuckers, and the fact that in their twisted-up worldview they get to an end that superficially resembles ours isn’t worth shit.
After all, Stormfront really supports the War on Terror, since it means they get to kill minorities with impunity. Saying you’re in with Stormfront, motherfucker?
so hey, a question for the long time UseNet geeks…
Have trolls ALWAYS been idjits? Or is it a more recent phenom, from eating too many pages of Liberal Fascism>?
I remember arguing with AnnieAngel and Shoelimply, and they at least had some arguments and wit to bring….
shit. Speking of idjits, I’m gonna blame that crappy tag close on “Joe” wilson.
No, they think it’s all being controlled by TEH J00z and that we should be like Charles Lindbergh.
I remember arguing with AnnieAngel and Shoelimply, and they at least had some arguments and wit to bring….
I remember differently.
9/11/01: Never Forget:
We had to take down an Arabic strongman to send a message to the Arab world who attacked us. Oh, and the country he was in has the world’s 3rd largest proven oil reserves and Dick Cheney was the CEO of the worlds largest oil production company.
Oh, and Arabs are considered to be white by the U.S. census. They’re not minorities.
speaking of which, I notice our gung-ho war troll doesn’t seem to want to respond to the picture of the war atrocity I posted….
Hmmmm.
You know, Barney Frank recently quoted a Yiddish proverb that seems very pithy and relevant at this time. I wish I could remember what it was.
I believe that’s nostalgia, ZRM. Shoelimpy in particular never seemed to rise above the level of the coprophagous stalker troll, and annieangel’s only real innovation was pretending to be a woman while she trolled for attention.
Honestly, Bruce remains the only troll worthy of the word “wit”. And now he’s gone.
Oh yes, neo-nazis apply their racism stringently by the U.S. Census protocols.
Oh, and Arabs are considered to be white by the U.S. census.
WTF does the US Census have to do with the Middle East?
Choad-twit.
But I hate paleocons, too. Hey, we finally agreed on something! Group hug!
Oh no, rings. Run around. Us. Logically. What shall we do?
My point was that “race” is a silly concept, but if you’re going to use something to define it by, it may as well be the census. And Arabs are white according to the census. They don’t get any kind of affirmative action, either.
Don’t fuck with me, WordPress. I know where you live.
Yeah, I don’t think racists are going to take a rational perspective on it when they have “PAKIS GO HOME” to write on some guy from Lebanon’s lawn.
Have trolls ALWAYS been idjits? Or is it a more recent phenom, from eating too many pages of Liberal Fascism>?
No, they’ve always been pretty much Gamma sub-morons. I saved some doozies from alt.conspiracy and suchlike; still have those files, somewhere…
I stored them all under the filename “WHACKO.TXT”. You can kind of take it from there.
Again, troll, you need to learn some focus.
Definitions of race don’t really come into play in the question of bombing the shit out of some mid-eastern country, except in your race-obsessed mind.
The refrain of ‘brown people” and “dusky hues” you see around here is a freaking satirical poke at the racism inherent in blaming Arabs and blacks for every ill in your life.
And NONE of this has anything to do with bread puns or slapping Bobo Wens around so bring some puns TOOT SWEET or crawl back under your rock.
Trolly’s working overtime. Do they lock him in, like the stock-clerks at Wal-Mart?
I just got home and I’m ready for a cocktail. Who’s drinking?
My point was that “race” is a silly concept, but if you’re going to use something to define it by, it may as well be the census.
Maybe, but when you’re talking about what Stormfronters think, the Census might not be the best match.
Project much? I was talking about culture and religion, and everyone on here starts going LOLZ U HATE BROWN PPLZ! I think the race-obsessed mind is yours.
Oh, that’s good, Pere.
It’s not like I am LOOKING for further evidence of the decline in intelligence of America’s Heartland.
Watching the Republican Senator from SC is bad enough.
And we didn’t “bomb the shit” out of it. “Bombing the shit” out of it would have been Germany in 1945, or Vietnam in 1972. Compared to those two bombing campaigns, what we did in Iraq was tiddlywinks.
Project much? I was talking about culture and religion, and everyone on here starts going LOLZ U HATE BROWN PPLZ! I think the race-obsessed mind is yours.
Umm, you brought it up, toad-projector.
From way, way back, before all the buns and pain aux noix:
“And I imagine that Harrison learned how to play the solo anyway, in order to play it live, right?
Not too sure about that, considering he took Clapton on tour with him (i.e. Live in Tokyo.) Pissed me off. Not over it. You’re a guitar player, think the people who buy tickets might want to, you know, hear you play guitar, you English muffin?
I also notice that, despite essentially obliterating Vietnam, we don’t have to worry about Vietnamese flying jets into buildings to kill Americans just to get back at us, do we?
what we did in Iraq was tiddlywinks.
Yeah tell it to the Iraqis, armchair-chickenhawk. Preferably in person.
toad.
Or, you know, Japanese blowing up our buildings even though we, uh, NUKED them. Twice.
Pissed me off. Not over it.
Wow, you’re kind of an old fart, aren’t you?
You were talking about a culture Iraq didn’t share with those who attacked us, and one you explicitly started saying we had to abandon Afghanistan for lacking, on account of not being Arabs.
So, yeah, you’re pretty much just arguing on the point of race at that point.
Also, fuck off with your Pee-Wee Herman type shit.
I also notice that, despite essentially obliterating Vietnam, we don’t have to worry about Vietnamese flying jets into buildings to kill Americans just to get back at us, do we?
Maybe that’s because they won.
I was talking about culture. Arabs aren’t a race. The kind of culture that promotes terror.
What the hell are you going on about? Did I touch a nerve? Frustrated I got the better of you?
Or, you know, Japanese blowing up our buildings even though we, uh, NUKED them. Twice.
You know, as long as we’re bringing up non-related items, how about we talk about how the Australians TOTALLY ripped off Middle Earth by allowing NZ to PRETEND to be Middle Earth?
And Peter Jackson TOTALLY sucks rocks.
seriously, dude, your focus is for shit. But that’s trollery for you, whine and kvetch until your arguments are shot down, then shift the fuckin goalposts.
I bet the Lions wish they could move the goalposts as well.
I never said we “abandon” Afghanistan. We can walk and chew gum. Using your logic we shouldn’t have fought Germany and Japan at the same time, or have both a Mississippi River and Virginia Front in the Civil War.
Did I touch a nerve?
Quit trying to touch my penis.
It’s not unrelated. There is a sickness in Arab culture, something that isn’t present in, say, Vietnamese culture, even though we had a brutal and bloody war with them.
Yeah tell it to the Iraqis, armchair-chickenhawk. Preferably in person.
toad.
Don’t you mean “choad”?
On second thought, “toad” is indeed more apt. Though an insult to all those innocent toads.
The kind of culture that promotes terror.
yeah, like bombing countries that had no relation to our gripe, on flimsy trumped up LIES.
And indiscriminately detaining, imprisoning, and torturing people without trial or legal process.
…wait, WHO are we complaining about again?
Shorter Zombie:
Let’s Blame America First.
I also notice that
You notice that we haven’t been blown up by Vietnamese terrorists or Japanese people? How very perceptive of you!
But you totally missed the fact that we weren’t blown up by Czechoslovakians or Surinamese. Or Belgians.
Of course, we WERE blown up by….white guys from Oklahoma.
Boring stupid troll is boring and stupid.
I LIKE toads, Pere.
You are right. I need to visit 3Bulls to obtain better invective.
Let’s see — it had something to do with furniture…
Way to miss the point.
It goes like this:
Leftists say we get attacked by Arabs because we put sanctions on them, or support Israel, or bomb them, or whatever. This totally ignores the fact that we’ve fought incredibly bloody, brutal wars with Mexico, Germany, Japan, Vietnam, etc., yet we’ve never had any terrorist incidents from any of them.
Or, hell, why aren’t there more Native American terrorists hijacking planes if American actions are what causes terror?
Built like a chest of drawers? No, that’s not what Barney said….
“Wow, you’re kind of an old fart, aren’t you?”
Only kind of. I was still a teen-ager when Live in Japan came out. But it’s not like it was Harrison’s final tour or anything!
Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic? Not very Yiddish-sounding…
Again, Vietnam won.
Twice, actually, once against their French oppressors, then again against the greatest military fighting force in the world. Still won.
They don’t have anything to prove anymore. Nobody’s going to fuck with their government, nobody’s going to invade for their natural resources, because the invading force will get their asses kicked.
Let’s Blame America First.
You are confuzzling “Blame” with “responsiblity”
Remember when the Republicans claimed to be the Party of Responsibility? The Adults?
America has done tragic things, in our name. You seem to want to ignore that. It’s not blame, it’s Sacking Up.
You incontinent twerp.
And Japan, Germany, Mexico, and the Native Americans?
“This totally ignores the fact that we’ve fought incredibly bloody, brutal wars with Mexico, Germany, Japan, Vietnam, etc., yet we’ve never had any terrorist incidents from any of them.”
Didn’t they all have, like armies and stuff?
/only one serving of ramen in reparations camp, troll
//them’s the rules
Okay, I think meltdown is imminent.
Who’s drinking what tonight?
Also:
Or, hell, why aren’t there more Native American terrorists hijacking planes if American actions are what causes terror?
What, you mean like AIM?
Terrorists have armies, too.
I never said we “abandon” Afghanistan. We can walk and chew gum. Using your logic we shouldn’t have fought Germany and Japan at the same time, or have both a Mississippi River and Virginia Front in the Civil War.
I bow to your superior knowledge of military matters. Presumably gained from Tom Clancy novels and playing Call of Duty on your Playstation.
There were high-value assets diverted from Afghanistan prior to the Iraq invasions. Things we only have a limited number of like intelligence gathering platforms (Joint STARTS, EC-130s etc).
How many people did they kill?
Something, something — like engaging in a contretemps with a chifforobe? Close, but…
Oh, well, I guess it’s not worth arguing about.
What do you care about the Afghanistan War anyway, MK? You’re against it.
I say the next time a Saudi building magnate orders attacks on us we fly planes into the pyramids.
Of course, we WERE blown up by….white guys from Oklahoma.
We obviously need to address the kind of sick culture that promotes terror.
Remind me how many midwestern white guys openly celebrated in the streets of their towns after the Federal Building was blown up.
Japan
Builds most of our electronic doo-dads, and still has plenty of ultra-nationalist fuckheads perfectly willing to engage in terrorist attacks. Y’know, like those folk Carlos the Jackal hung out with.
Germany
Might be they’re taking a break after the Shoah to really prep their ultra-nationalist terrorists. Y’know, like the Neo-Nazis.
Mexico
I don’t know, according to you, isn’t the Reconquista underway? Every illegal’s a terrorist, apparently.
Native Americans
Again, still pockets of red power in places.
The difference is, even in his own society (white, midwestern America) McVeigh was an outcast and a weirdo. People like bin Laden and Zawahiri are respected professionals in the Arab world, and their views are mainstream.
sorry, Goat-boy, no offense. I’m an old fart too. Just kind of skipped most of the Beatles thing….
What do I care about Obama’s policies anyway, me? I’m against them.
Who’s drinking what tonight?
Grrr. Nothing. Otherwise I’d be fun.
I never said that I was against the Afghanistan war. I said I was against the Iraq invasion.
That being said, I think Afghanistan is so far into mission-creep that even we don’t know what we’re trying to accomplish there any more.
Remind me how many midwestern white guys openly celebrated in the streets of their towns
Well, I’m sure there was a fair or block party going on somewhere that day. Which was pretty much the exact same situation they got all that wonderful bullshit footage from in the Middle East.
Who’s drinking what tonight?
CUBA LIBRES,, CAPITALIST PIG-DOGS!!!
MUAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!!
Ultra-nationalists in Japan: outcasts, weirdos, pariahs.
Neo-Nazis in Germany: outcasts, weirdos, pariahs.
Aztlan devotees in Mexico: outcasts, weirdos, pariahs, except in Paleocon World where they’re under every bed in their deluded minds.
“Red Power” followers among Native Americans: outcasts, weirdos, pariahs.
Islamists in the Arab World: a mainstream part of the political spectrum with 10s of millions, if not 100s of millions, of followers.
Remind me how many midwestern white guys openly celebrated in the streets of their towns after the Federal Building was blown up.
Not streets, gunshows.
Remind me again, who was hiding the guy who set off explosives at the Atlanta Olympics? Who was hiding McVeigh?
Oh yeah, the same kind of people who in the Middle East and Central Asia would be hiding bin Ladin and the other guy, because they’re outcats and weirdos to the mainstream.
Christianists in America – in control of one of the major political parties.
Let me know when we can’t allow Oklahoma to have elections because they’ll elect open Klan members to the state legislature, and then we’ll talk.
We DID have that situation in the American South at one time. Some people said we should appease the segregationists and that pushing them around would just make things worse. Others said we had to use the force of the federal government to drain the swamp. Sound familiar?
In other words, shut the fuck up, bigot.
Remind me how many midwestern white guys openly celebrated
Probably a fair number in the nuttso militia camps.
Nice to know you guys are all about federal government now.
Or is that you’re just all about the force part?
When needed, yes.
Yeah, I seem to recall “Some people” was Republican motherfuckers starting up the Southern Strategy, and “Others” were the Northeastern Democrats, having expelled a bunch of outcasts, pariahs and weirdos who melded with the Republicans.
I also don’t remember us shooting guys from Mississippi in the process.
And remind me when we got to “allow” other governments how to vote? If Oklahoma wants to elect an open Klan member, that’s their fucking business.
Though I guess in 1864 some people here would be whining about how Sherman is a “war criminal” and needed to be investigated, forgetting all about the how slavery thing being done by the other side.
When needed, yes.
And it seems to be always, always, always needed…..
Uh, the Civil FUCKING WAR? Lol, your’e an idiot.
I spent 9 years in Mississippi and Louisiana.
A lot of people down South think Sherman was a war criminal.
Gee, the Civil War was to drain a swamp?
“We didn’t shoot guys from Mississippi”. Wow. I think I’m done here for the night.
Woo, he’s gone!
Some people said we should appease the segregationists and that pushing them around would just make things worse. Others said we had to use the force of the federal government to drain the swamp.
Then they seceded and the decision was made for both of those groups. Applications to Iraq war: none.
You mean you don’t remember when JFK carpet-bombed Biloxi?
Metaphorically speaking, yes. The ultimate goal of Civil War and reconstruction* was to first crush the rebellion, and then to “drain the swamp” of the culture that celebrated slavery and treason.
*In the beginning it was “to save the Union” but the goals were changed. Or, as you might have said at the time, LINCOLN LIED, PEOPLE DIED!
Now, I’m done here.
They must not have done a very good. The governor of Texas has been calling for secession.
Also, did he start talking about the Civil War?
Because my impression was he was speaking the Civil Rights period where we had to drain a swamp to find three dead men that a bunch of segregationist good ol’ boys murdered.
I mean, it’d be no surprise to me that he decided to shift the goalposts midway through a sentence, but I’d just like to know if I was interpreting it wrong.
Don’t worry. Tomorrow he’ll be screaming “States rights!” or some such.
The ultimate goal of Civil War and reconstruction* was to first crush the rebellion, and then to “drain the swamp” of the culture that celebrated slavery and treason.
Well, it’s clear the latter was a total failure — wouldn’t you agree, Rep. Wilson?
Hey troofie – British govt admits that Fag0rtz = heros.
Not to mention making possible the medium in which you are so tiresome!
So thank a gay man today.
“There is never a time when some way cannot be found to avoid drawing the sword.” – Gen. Ulysses S. Grant
About time they apologized for what they did to Alan Turing.
“We didn’t shoot guys from Mississippi”.
You should realize he was responding to your “segregationists” bit, as that term is typically used for the post Civil War phenomenon.
Though I guess in 1864 some people here would be whining
Yeah, on all those 19th century computers…
heee hee hee. you’re a tool.
Alos, obviously Trotsky was talking about the post WWII political environment, not the Civil War. Get over it already, the South lost.
Just like McCain lost last fall.
About time they apologized for what they did to Alan Turing.
Yup. I thought they’d leave it as long as the church left their apology to Galileo.
About time they apologized for what they did to Alan Turing.
Making him the keystone of the Virtual Web? I’m not sure that’s Britain’s fault.
(Nobody is going to get that at all.)
So thank a gay man today.
Thank You, Gay People!!
Thank You, Gay People!!
Reminds me of Allen Sherman’s “Thanks to thee, fat man, you kept us out of war.”
Thank you, Republican delegation to congress!
Nice to see Turing get some props, though.
I mean, outside of wondering whether Troofy would pass hisTest.
Hey Troofie—don’t forget that the Presidential candidate you probably voted for in 1996, Bo Gritz, called the OKC bombing “A miracle of art and science.”
Yeah, on all those 19th century computers…
Hey, man, my ADA MCM analytical engine totally roolz!
About time they apologized for what they did to Alan Turing.
And he was so good in “X-Men 2”.
Do most right-wing retards have a post-it note on their refrigerator saying, “Reminder: Remember 9-11.” And another one stuck on the bathroom mirror that says, “To do: Don’t forget 9-11.”
Thank Spag they are on top of this, since the rest of us have all forgotten what happened eight years ago tomorrow. I certainly have.
don’t forget that the Presidential candidate you probably voted for in 1996, Bo Gritz, called the OKC bombing “A miracle of art and science.”
Blargh – Bo Gritz was very big in Utah in ’96. I had several coworkers who were supporters, the most vocal of whom was a guy I had by then referred to for several years as “Redneck Boy.”
Yeesh, wotta fuck-knuckle.
And fecking question marks…blurp.
“Fuck-knuckle”
I like that.
I have to remember it.
One side benefit of these troll-bashing episodes (besides keeping Brandi at bay) is the new invective one can pick up.
Who’s drinking what tonight?
Pale Ale from Upslope Brewing Co., Boulder, CO.
Mmm… microbrew.
Roland!!
Hows the Western Undead Doodz?
I found him in a barroom in Mombasa, drinking gin…
Pretty good ever since then actually. The whole missing head thing really cleared up my allergy problems.
Do most right-wing retards have a post-it note on their refrigerator saying, “Reminder: Remember 9-11.” And another one stuck on the bathroom mirror that says, “To do: Don’t forget 9-11.”
A part of me wants to remember other things that have occured on any respective September 11th, and then act clueless about the thing that happened on the 2001st iteration of the day.
“Do I remember 9/11? Why certainly! The Battle of Stirling Bridge, Henry Hudson’s discovery of Manhattan, the Battle of Zenta, the turning point in the Great Northern War, the Battle of Brandywine, the annexation of Piedmont by France, the first performance of Oh! Susanna, the first conference of the World Parliament of Religions, Salvatore Maranzano killed by Lucky Luciano’s men, ground broken for the building of the Pentagon, Hurricane Carla strikes Texas, Pinochet creates a CIA-backed coup of Chile, Pete Rose gets his 4,192nd base hit…”
“But what about 9/11?”
“What now? Oh, and I haven’t even gotten started on who was born that day!”
Just glad I could help out.
One side benefit of these troll-bashing episodes (besides keeping Brandi at bay) is the new invective one can pick up.
Oh yes, S, N! is a great repository for it.
I’ve seen “fuck-knuckle” around here before a couple times. My personal favorite from here is “chumpwagon”.
Hey, Roland, how much you want for that?
Isn’t it cute how Troofie pretends not to like Nazi apologists and Segregationists and Neocons all of a sudden because something one of them said started with the same letter as something one of us said—or whatever the tenuous connection was?
Patty, have you heard the burst?
It’s equally cute how Troofie accuses us of playing the race card after masturbatorily declaring that 9/11 set us at glorious war with every Arab in the world.
personally, I am offended that none of you choadnozzles took offense at my communistic drink of choice.
I battled the Bantu to their knees… think your drink choices will upset me?
That said, I support all and any undead alcohol preferences. Even if you are a commie pinko from the lowlands.
Zombie, it has ever been thus…
I used to frequent alt.impeach.clinton back in the heady days of 1998-99, and it’s same as it ever was… same as it ever was… same as it ever was…
Here’s an example:
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Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater, alt.society.liberalism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.impeach.clinton, alt.politics.usa.republican
From: Joseph
Date: 1999/01/08
Subject: Re: Is Danny Williams Just More Roadkill in the Politics of Personal Destruction?
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999, Mark Gibson wrote:
> Don’t be fooled by lying Democraps! These tales of long-time Republicans
> suddenly deciding to turn Democrap because of the impeachment and pending
> conviction of Crook Clinton are nothing but liberaloon propaganda designed
> to intimidate responsible people.
I see. Numerous Voter Registrar Offices around the country are
deliberately and feloniously falsifying their records and entering the
results into the public record where anyone can look them up, all for the
sake of “libraloon propaganda”.
Have you checked the skies for black helicopters today?
> What is actually happening is that more and more people are turning
> against Clinton and the lying liberaloons who support him.
And your proof is…?
> Clinton is a crook, as are his cronies.
Oh, THAT’S your proof. How silly of me to have doubted you.
– Saint Joseph
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Isn’t sanity just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean, all you get is that
one trick, rational thinking. But when you’re good and crazy, well,
the sky’s the limit!
— The Tick
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I don’t know the history of rum-and-coke, but in order to be named “Cuba Libre,” it would have had to have been invented in the era when Coca-Cola still had—you know—coca in it.
the purists add the coca back in.
Personally, I prefer Pina Coladas from Trader Vic’s…
I’ve seen “fuck-knuckle” around here before a couple times.
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Aha, that’d be why.
OT – my my my, it seems that when St. Ronnie Of Reagan proclaimed “tear down this Wall” to those dastardly Commynistas that his ideological mentor in Merrie Olde England had a somewhat different take on the whole thing (link via metafilter).
Too bad for her that Gorby’s pals in the KGB didn’t go along with her request to keep her remarks out of the public record – now the cat’s out of the bag, & the Iron Lady’s got her own shit on her face.
“The reunification of Germany is not in the interests of Britain and Europe.”
Oh, you wacky neocons – is there any turning-point in modern history that doesn’t wind up making you look like soulless jackals?
The only funny thing Dennis Miller ever said was on his feelings about the two Germanies getting back together: “It’s like a Jerry Lewis-Dean Martin reunion. I really wasn’t a fan their previous work, and I’m not sure if I want to see any of their new stuff.”
Don’t you just love how the guy who claims that race doesn’t exist sure loves waving 9/11 around as an excuse for killing brown people?
Okay, now i get it:
19 radical arabs run by a a billionaire living in the mountains of Afghanistan represent the mainstream views of the entire ethnic Arab population of the world, and thus justify preemptive military strikes on any arab country, but especially those with large accessible oil reserves.
Tim McVeigh and his fellow conspirators are outcasts and misfits in their own society, although his ideas are loudly and vigorously parroted by armed citizens at presidential events, and these actions are defended by republican members of congress and the conservative media.
He’s also conflated Arab and Islamists, ignoring non-Islamic Arabs and Non-Arab Islamists in order to justify bombing an Arab non-Islamist state for the crime of totally unrelated stateless Islamists.
He’s also conflated Arab and Islamists, ignoring non-Islamic Arabs and Non-Arab Islamists in order to justify bombing an Arab non-Islamist state for the crime of totally unrelated stateless Islamists.
And ignored that something like 80% of Muslims are Asian or black African.
Oh. Wait. I forgot. Bigot. Doesn’t care.
Crap, do I have to do this? Fine:
NF: I don’t agree with you, but I must say you’ve been quite a bit more rational and persistant than any of the other, ahem, alternate opinions we’ve had here in a while. Good job! And sorry about the steady stream of insults and all. You did well in not returning them. Much.
Cue Sock Puppet accusations in three, two, one…
Remind me how many midwestern white guys openly celebrated in the streets of their towns
Better than that: how many Southern white guys aided and abetted the terrorist, Eric Rudolph? How many websites sprang up in support of him? How many right wing anti-abortionist cheered him on openly?
Please get your facts straight, mmmmmmmmmmmmmK?
Also:
Those who expressed sympathy for McVeigh typically described his deed as an act of war, as in the case of Gore Vidal’s essay The Meaning of Timothy McVeigh.[198][199] Other journalists compared him to John Brown.[200]
About time they apologized for what they did to Alan Turing.
General happiness in the cryppie fraternity.
“Saddam Hussein was a symbol of Arab strength and defiance of America, and we had to take him down to send a message that you don’t fuck with the USA and get away with it.”
Actually, that would have been Saudi Arabia, which has an actual functioning air force and navy, unlike Saddam’s Iraq. (I think they juyst found Saddam’s air force in mothballs in Croatia.) And better yet, 15 of the highjackers were Saudi. And they were probably paid for with Saudi money.
and have him teach me the solo to “While My Guitar Gently weeps”….
[nitpick] Well, you’ll have to ask Eric Clapton about that. [/nitpick]