Letter From Birmingham FAIL

Tea parties again. When will they lose their appeal? After conviction but in advance of sentencing, one imagines, if the piss-eyed craziness and the visible firearms continue to rise in tandem.

The Blogprof, theblogprof:
Report From The Birmingham, MI Tea Party Protest – August 22, 2009

I took a few of my kids and headed down to Birmingham today, anticipating a good turnout at the tea party protest against unconstitutional government expansion.

Oh, is that the new thing they’re basically against? It used to be health care reform of any sort whatsoever, while taxes and unions and carbon regulations and immigration and other things have sort of drifted in and out of prominence, depending on what the lobbyists have had on their plates that week.

I wasn’t disappointed either. A crowd of about 750 were already there at noon, and swelled to over 1,000 by 12:30pm.

There are pictures and some YouTube video. The numbers as usual seem inflated, but whatever.

If you notice the signs, they are all home made. No professional looking signs like what the SEIU and ACORN bring to their events. Note that a large number of the protesters were seniors. So much for the AstroTurf accusations hurled by the left.

Yes, that certainly outweighs the evidence of the emails and memos from the Astroturfers, and the screen-captures of disappeared web pages, and all the planning materials and Internet chatter including actual training documents and videos, that we have lying around over here, just sort of scooped up laconically from the passing flow of data without serious exertion. Homemade signs, you say? Senior citizens? Thank God you’ve investigated this, sir! There had been…accusations.

Aah, not crazed enough yet. What’s this?

Van Helsing, Moonbattery.com
Birmingham, Michigan Tea Party

No state has suffered more from moonbattery than Michigan, which has been sucked by the black hole known as Detroit — America’s most liberal city

[heh heh] Woo! ‘The black hole known as Detroit’ — that makes us snigg…erm, chuckle sharply. The best part is that if anyone says anything about this colorful, I say, colorful metaphor, it means they’re playing the race card and showing who are the real racists, because whoah man, what kind of racist must you be to even think that he was referring to race?1 Yeah, that one always works.

It’s a creepy night here in Cambridge, by the way, a city that joins San Francisco in wondering what we’ve been doing wrong that a devastated blue-collar, meatloaf-and-beer town like Detroit could vault ahead of us on an index presumably factored for LGBT parades, numbers of universities that are responsible for Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. or whoever UC Berkeley is responsible for, the integration of Southeast Asian cuisines into daily life, public streets and monuments named after labor history figures, the civic nurturance of a population of genuine moonbats, a habit of voting overwhelmingly for liberals, and 2005 studies of ‘most liberal cities’ with surprising results whose methodologies weren’t available, that were done by a think tank so sketchy that its founders later literally sold it on Ebay — which, uh, it’s okay to use that because it says right there Detroit Most Liberal blar-har-hardy-har liberals! …Er, [ahem] excuse me.

It’s a creepy night here because Gates has been driving around the block in his van tossing beer cans on people’s lawns, as he does, apparently casing the neighborhood again, and the police not only refuse to do anything, but have also started literally pulling squad cars out of the area as soon as someone phones in a report of a man prowling around on their porch. “A man of unspecified ethnicity?” they say. “If you don’t know his race, then how do you know it isn’t his house?”

If you were to reply like, “Um, gee, if it was his house, I guess he wouldn’t need to break in, now would he?” then it would be unclear who in this anecdote was supposed to be learning a lesson. Actually, it’s none of us. It’s him:

…to the brink of an economic abyss, with the help of Berkeley-trained moonbat governor Jennifer Granholm. Michiganders do not seem pleased that Detroit-style politics are now being imposed at the federal level.

Although liberal enough by voting habit to make Detroit the most la-la-liberal city ever in history, the voters of Michigan seem also to be very anti-liberal, for otherwise why would ordinary citizens be spontaneously impersonated by right-wing zealots at ‘tea parties’ organized by Washington lobbyists?

The Blogprof provides an eyewitness report of a highly successful Tea Party today in Birmingham. A few sample pictures:

Angry empty-nest woman is good at skull art! But in the end, no matter how awesome one would have been at drawing the sleeves of historic Detroit-area hardcore punk EPs, had one not been someone’s mom at the time, protest signs are about three things: getting the point across, getting the point across, and being the change that you wish to see. And what comes super-across here totally geniusly are the expressionistic spook lines that spell the word, ‘hell.’ They make it go ‘Woo-woo-woo!’ with a scary-wavery sound, such as things do when they’re lit starkly from the bottom and there’s a Theramin around. Suggestion: jungle lettering for OBAMA. What are they going to do, show who the real racists are by playing the race card?

On being the change that one wishes to see, what about sending all the Swazis back to Swaziland?

There’s one now! Pack it up and send it to Geneva!

Ha ha! Now wait, here’s what we did: First you Do Not See a Swastika in the photo, and then we drew one in there, and now look again and it is a Doozy of a Nazi Swastika.

Oh, it’s just fun and jestery from every extreme on the political spectrum. From casefile: Every Picture Tells a Story:

Because the…

Turnout was over 1,000. Astroturfers? We all know better.

After thinking it all through again, I must say I’m convinced.


1 If this seems too facile, the study isn’t actually about ‘liberalism’ per se, but is explicitly about race.
 

Comments: 365

 
 
 

If a moonbat fought a Angry Red Planet-style rat bat spider, who would win? And as a Berkeley-area resident, I resent the hell out of losing the Most Liberal Title to an urban area known for hardhats and some of the hardest-core Catholics this side of Warsaw.

 
 

The Blogprof:

If you notice the signs, they are all home made.

Translation: Even the local GOP office won’t print up our signs for fear of being associated with us.

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Gary Ruppert Number Two
 

the fact is, cash for clunkers is bankrupting iceland…

 
 

Ah, Iceland!

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“Millions for Planned Parenthood Abortions” you say? Must I use my monthy abortion stipend at a Planned Parenthood or do I have the option of going to one of the numerous other abortion clinics that are not PP? If that money comes in the form of a PP voucher or something, am I allowed to use it on other Planned Parenthood services, such as treatment for my sinful God-inflicted STD? Inquiring minds want to know.

 
 

If there currently is abotu 1.4 million abortions done in US per year, and theyeach likely cost more the few bucks, wouldn’t “millions for planned parenthood abortions” actually be a reduction in number of abortions, because you can perform less of them with that money?

So, is the person holding the sign for or against abortions?

 
 

What I really don’t understand is how the Democrats listening to poll numbers during the campaign was such a bad thing while now the Democrats not listening to poll numbers taken during a protest is the worst thing ever.

But asking from consistency from a group of people who consider Sarah Palin to be a hero is like asking for tofu and quinoa recipes from the neighbors at a NASCAR campsite.

And isn’t Cash for Clunkers actually a not-so-bad analogy to replacing that guy’s mom’s hip? After all, no one actually believes in the death panel nonsense, do they? Isn’t that as absurd as belief that abortions will be paid for? Oh, never mind. Thought for a second I was discussing people with brains.

 
 

What’s the story with those flags those people are waving?
Also, do folding chairs only come in one colour in the US?
So many questions, so few question marks.

 
 

If, like, 80 million liberals show up to protest the launch of an idiotic, murderous, and indeed controversial war, then, hey man, fuck them, because AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY etc. etc. etc.

A couple dozen teaparty nutbags show up with signs saying NO OBAMANAZI and CONSTITUTION SAYS NO DEMOCRAPS ALLOWED or whatever and suddenly it’s pretty much the equivalent of a new Constitutional convention?

 
 

the signs are in the same handwriting, and the other sign was “written” by the same “Hand!” as the others. Kerners on!

 
 

What’s the story with those flags those people are waving?

This little flaggie went to market, this little flaggie stayed home.
This little flaggie went batshit, this little flaggie did not.
And this little flaggie went
“Galt galt galt” all the way home.

Also, do folding chairs only come in one colour in the US?

Since we are officially a color-blind society, that question cannot be answered. Also, you spell funny.

So many questions, so few question marks.

Question marks are only a limited resource if one believe algore and his global-certainty propaganda.

 
 

If you notice the signs, they are all home made.

Those print shops are always editing their signs, eliminating the one true proof of a genuine grassroots conservative movement – First Grade-level spelling and grammar.

 
a different mikey
 

I remember playing ‘race cards’ for hours when I was a kid. Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell always beat Jim Palmer and Dave MacNally in ‘race card smackdown’.

 
 

You are either unintelligent or disingeneous- as theblogproft wrote, the people there were against the unconsitutional expansion of government, and that is the same thing (or pretty darn near it) to government control of health care, government control of GM, and government control of energy companies. So your comment where this is some new thing, like our agenda changes with the times like some liberal, was wrong. Your attempt to mock by saying that two things were not alike wasn’t correct- they were alike. I assume that this sort of logical failure is the usual on your blog- you probably should go back and study logic in college before you start tying on a keyboard.

 
a different mikey
 

tying on a keyboard

Teacher, ur doing it rong.

 
 

Teacher, ur doing it rong.

If only I could have replaced Mrs. Benjamin in 3rd grade with dancing badgers…

 
a different mikey
 

Like so many in her ‘movement’ ConTeach maintained a deafening silence during eight years of unconstitutional expansion of government and government control of by energy companies but now is forced, forced I say, to protest our illogicality.

Got it. And disingenious? That’s something to do with volcanic rock or something? I bet Clyde knows.

 
 

disingenious

Double negative: disingenious = unantigenious = genius.

 
 

“a different mikey said,

August 23, 2009 at 14:23

I remember playing ‘race cards’ for hours when I was a kid. Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell always beat Jim Palmer and Dave MacNally in ‘race card smackdown’.”

Blah, everyone knows you can only play one race card at a time, unless you have half-breed, 1/3-breed or chimera, in which case you can play said card and 2,3 or as many as you wish race cards, and in which case you gain the bonuses and penalties from each. (Of course, having only one race card and half-breed / 1/3-breed / chimera allows you to only gain bonuses from the racecard, and none of the penalties.)

Also remember, you can drop your race at any time, when it is beneficial to you.

And there is only one race card that benefits you, when you help someone else, but what else did you expect from a run-away treehugger?

It’s actually scary how well it fits….

 
a different mikey
 

Disingenious= ragging on Barbara Eden and those like her.

 
 

Barbara Eden and those like her.

Talentless large-breasted actresses? That’s a big enough demographic to have its own congressman.

 
Paulie Chestnuts
 

I grew up in Birmingham, but the particular area in which I grew up now goes by Bloomfield Township. I’ve gone to that particular park many times, most notably for my first date in junior high.

Regardless, what these teabaggers don’t seem to be getting is that Oakland County, for a long time a Republican stronghold, went for Obama by 15 points. And the margin between the Democrat and Republican presidential candidates has only been increasing over time since 1996.

As a longtime Oakland County resident, I do feel these trends are not likely to reverse anytime soon as:
– the old openly racist fogeys start dying off
-the county becomes more diverse
-the “good times” are not coming back and when you’re struggling a safety net seems like a good thing to have

Oh, and it goes without saying: Oakland University, where the good Professor works, is a public university.

 
 

Going back to Birmingham
Out in eastern Michigan
Going back to Birmingham
Out in eastern Michigan
You know the blast fax said
we’re gonna stick it to the Man

 
 

After a month of town halls, they are so popular now that attendance reaches…maybe a thousand, but probably not. Democratic congressors should have several more town halls each, and apparently, exhaust the teabaggers. Schedule the meetings for 5:00pm per george costanza’s advice. (I know, I can’t believe I’m recommending anyone taking george costanza’s advice.)

 
 

I assume that this sort of logical failure is the usual on your blog

OH NOES GAVIN HAZ LOGICL FAIL

yeeesh… I hope this really isn’t a teacher. Most of the ones I had were so much more intelligent.

Oh, and the government gave money to GM, and demanded a certain level of control as a result. This is totally different than the calls for the last twenty years for the government to censor the NEA and PBS (“my tax money shouldn’t be going for things I find icky!”) because shut up that’s why.

 
 

that is the same thing (or pretty darn near it) to government control of health care,

Moar better conservativ teachurs plz.

 
 

I’m still waiting for Sarah Palin to prove that she’s not a witch.

 
 

like our agenda changes with the times like some liberal

I wish I had laser cannons with which to beam at you.

Yes, agendas change with the fucking times because times change, and there isn’t one solution to every new problem that comes up. The old policies don’t always work with new ones. People have to be flexible, not stand athwart their toothpaste tubes and scream, “But the top changed! I now cannot open this!”, when a two year old can figure it out. I mean, “What the fuck?” Of course things change and we sometimes need new and better plans to face these changes, not misspelled signage or guns intended to thwart progress.

With national healthcare, if you hate your rat-bastard boss and can find another job, you don’t have to worry about health benefits. Hell, you don’t have to worry about loosing your job and having to pay COBRA, which can run upwards of a thousand a month – the true cost of your healthcare plan, not the portion you pay. Good luck finding an individual medical plan that will cover everything that group does, because it won’t, because the insurance laws in your state don’t mandate coverage for certain things. Oh, little Susie has asthma? They’ll take her alright, but the asthma’s excluded, so you have to pay full price for hospitalization, medications, doctor visits. Little Jim had luekemia? Forget it, they won’t cover him, even though he’s fine now. And if Betty forgot to mention that abnormal pap smear that she had last year, because it wasn’t a big deal and the next two were normal, and everyone’s gone about their business and forgotten about it, the coverage will be yanked and well, you can apply in six months, when you’ve learned to be honest.

Oh, but go without coverage? Just use the emergency room! That’s not free either. Oh, they can’t turn you away, but you’ll still owe the several hundred for going in for a sore throat. Or perhaps you think you’re clever like my friends – who were all white and legal citizens, by the way – and just give your name and a fake address. They’ll still treat you. But you still owe them money. If you’re lucky to live where I do, in seven years they’ll have to forgive the debt. But in the meantime, your credit’s bad and they still want their money.

I bet you’re the type of person I get on my phone, one that insists that we can’t decline them because they’ve had continuous group coverage and that means that we can’t exclude anyone for individual medical. Sorry, we can. And you can protest that you have none of the conditions that we’ve declined you for, but it says right there in your medical records, “boarderline high blood sugar” and “hyperlipidemia” and “hypertension” and you’ve had a numbness in your left arm that no one can figure out what it is, and eh, why do further testing if it’s not bothering you now? And don’t forget that chest pain that you went in for four years ago, that since the pain stopped, you never got that stress test that the doctor recommended because it was too expensive.

Because it’s those people that I get, that I just want to say, “Then you’re for national health insurance, right?” but I suspect that they wouldn’t be, given their attitude. It won’t be a lesson learned, though most people do get it, because I only hear the phrase “this is why we need national healthcare” at least twice a day.

And I’m really sorry for the book, but that really, really, annoyed me.

 
 

And I’m really sorry for the book, but that really, really, annoyed me.

Nice book. I look forward to the movie.

 
 

I WISH TO CLARIFY THAT THE THINGS WE DO NOT LIKE ARE UN-CONSTITUTIONAL BECAUSE SHUT UP

 
 

El Cid, A.C.T. haz a ‘spechul’ Constitution.

Healthcare bad, torcher gude.
~

 
 

What’s the story with those flags those people are waving?

It’s the American flag from Fallout 3! OH MY GOD THE REPUBLICANS ARE THE ENCLAVE AND SARAH PALIN IS ACTUALLY A HYPERINTELLIGENT COMPUTER!!

 
 

Letting people choose for themselves if they want something like expanded Medicare is antithetical to everything our Constitution stands for. Warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition, torturing people to death, loss of Habeas, etc, on the other hand, were all so freedomliscious they would have given George Washington a monument IN HIS PANTS.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Title win.

Also: Theremin

 
 

i JUST WANT TO POINT TO SOMETHING SERIOUS FOR A MOMENT HERE IN THE FLOOD AND WELTER OF YOUR SNARKERY.

tHESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT IT WAS UNCOOL FOR MRS. oBAMA TO SHOW HER UPPER ARMS IN PUBLIC. AND YET, AND YET … DEAR gOD WHAT AN ABHOMINATION IN THOSE PHOTOS. tHERE IS A LADY WHO REALLY, really NEEDS TO NOT SHOW HER UPPER ARMS, AND WHERE ARE THE WINGNUTS?

cRICKETS!!11!

yOUR WELCOME!

 
 

OK, can someone explain why they’re flying the sphincter flag, even if it’s from Fallout 3? Is it more Americany-er, or something?

 
 

BTW, it’s spelled “theremin”. I knows, because I has one.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

My mom is not because she thinks not

 
 

Having grown up in Troy, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit right next door to Birmingham, it doesn’t surprise me that we’d find one of these teabagger rallies there. Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills, and West Bloomfield are among the wealthiest communities in Michigan, and anyone who thinks this gathering is remarkable doesn’t know the area very well. They’ve long been Republican strongholds (maybe not West Bloomfield, as it contains a significant chunk of metro Detroit’s Jewish community). These folks really have nothing to worry about when it comes to health care coverage. At all.

And as a Berkeley-area resident, I resent the hell out of losing the Most Liberal Title to an urban area known for hardhats and some of the hardest-core Catholics this side of Warsaw.

I wouldn’t say that metro Detroit is as culturally liberal as a place like Berkeley or Cambridge, but it’s been on the whole a Democratic region for quite some time, with the exceptions that I’ve noted above. Yes, it’s an “unsophisticated” and “meatloaf and beer” place (my dad makes a mean meatloaf, btw), but there’s a lot of good folk who vote for liberal politicians as reliably as anyone from Berkeley.

 
a different mikey
 

Don’t apologize Sporkey, let her rip. It pissed me off too I just didn’t have as much energy as you did.

 
 

Heh.

When I went to lunch the other day in the smallish town where I work, up at the register, there were all these flyers for a “rally” to be held at the district congressman’s local office a few days later. On the back was some really unintelligible and false drivel about how health care reform is actually intended to kill grandma and enslave you, along with links to a few websites that upon later study looked like only 2 people have ever visited them. So I picked one up, and when I got back to the office, called the congressman’s home office, located in the city where he lives. I told the young man on the phone I was calling about the town hall meeting the congressman was going to have in the smallish town where I work and he replied that it wasn’t a town hall, it was a protest rally – and I could hear the disgust in his voice. I said, oh, well I misunderstood, see I picked up this flyer with all this misinformation on the back of it, and I was calling because I thought it would be helpful for the congressman to know what lies the people here have been told before he shows up, so he’ll be prepared to knock them down. Suddenly the young man perked up and asked, do you have a copy of that flyer? Yes I do, I replied. Do you have a fax machine handy, he asked? Yes, yes I do, I said, in fact this is what I had in mind all along, to fax this to you, that’s why I picked it up and called. If you would do that, that would be GREAT, he responded. And so I faxed it over to him, and felt quite content that I had performed my good deed for the day. Now if the congressman makes a trip to the town during the recess, he’ll know in advance what crazy bullshit his stupid and insane constituents in the area have internalized.

Obviously, there’s absolutely no astroturfing going on at all.

 
 

Those flags were printed! Probably by some sort of machine! They even have the right number of stars and stripes, pretty much. Didn’t they get the memo that they’re supposed to have the maid draw them their own flags with Sharpies on tag board? It’s not like it’s a hard job. Thirty of them is probably all they need for a group this size; that way every other one has her or her own flag.

Good job, though, on taking their talking points from Mallard Fillmore.

 
 

Thank you, Gavin, for spotlighting this guy – he’s a real winner! But you must check out his blogger profile, it’s a real hoot. One of his favorite movies is V for Vendetta. He must have been very disappointed in the ending, or else the ‘splosions distracted him.

 
 

Sooooooo……………..

WAY OTT ALERT!1!1!!! WAY OTT ALERT!!!!!11!!!

Sooooooo……………..

Inglourious Basterds, then.

Just saw it. WTF?

No spoiler here, just two questions for those who have seen it.

Question The First: Was that one of the most amazing pieces of filmmaking ever? My heart rate was through the roof almost the entire time. The dramatic tension was simply unprecedented in anything I’ve ever seen.

Question The Second: What was the point? You know what I’m talking about.

I’m at sixes and sevens about this film. On the one hand, it was simply an amazing cinematic achievement. On the other, it was completely worthless as in intellectual exercise.

You have to see this film. You will leave the theater as conflicted as you’ve ever been by something that had nothing to do with your life.

Sadlynauts, HELP!!111111!!!

PS-can someone tell me how to get an umlaut over the “o” in my nom de guerre? I’m a useless old person with no computer skilz…

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

He must have been very disappointed in the ending, or else the ’splosions distracted him.

Well, he knew that the bad guys in the movie weren’t thinly-veiled versions of contemporary conservative leaders, because those characters had all served in the military instead of running and hiding when things got tough. Therefore, the bad guys were liberals and the Guy Fakesian rebels were conservatives. QED.

 
 

Why would you want an umlaut, anyway? Don’t you know they are a TOOL of the DEVIL?

I’ve been hearing good things about “Inglorious Basterds”. August, over at xoverboard, makes a good case for it being essentially a live-action remake of every WWII Bugs Bunny cartoon ever made.

I’ll have to go see it, I guess.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

I’ll have to go see it, I guess.

I want to see Inglorious Basterds, but as a squeamish hippie peacenik I have a hard time with the bloodiness of Tarantino’s films. Is it as gory and screamy as, say Reservoir Dogs? I thought that one was a good movie but no way could I sit through it again.

Pulp Fiction was borderline and Kill Bill I had no problem with, just so you all can gauge my movie violence wimpiness.

 
 

I assume that this sort of logical failure is the usual on your blog- you probably should go back and study logic in college before you start tying on a keyboard.

getting lectured on logic by a wingnut, how precious.

and Anonymous , your rage comes out so much better when the caps key is turned off….. font Nazi that I am…

 
 

Therefore, the bad guys were liberals and the Guy Fakesian rebels were conservatives. QED.

Clearly, I need to spend more time banging my head with a hammer since I missed that entire interpretation. P’raps I should rethink my aversion to Red Dawn as well!

 
 

Wow, I had no idea the crowds were soooooooo huge!!!

But where are all the black people? Don’t tell me Birmingham shipped all theirs to Detroit!

 
 

” remember playing ‘race cards’ for hours when I was a kid. Roberto Clemente and Willie Stargell always beat Jim Palmer and Dave MacNally in ‘race card smackdown’.”

They beat Cuellar and Dobson, too, in ’71.

 
 

No professional looking signs like what the SEIU and ACORN bring to their events.

They probably learned this one from Vince McMahon, who’s been known to distribute “home-made” looking signs throughout the seats at some of his events. Ask wrestling fans where they got their signs and a surprising number will answer, “It was in my seat when I got here.” Wonder how many teabaggers could say the same.

 
 

getting lectured on logic by a wingnut, how precious.

Like having Frances Farmer lecture you on the virtues of mental health.

 
 

Xecky (I’m a lurker who’s discovered a voice)–

Again: Go. See. It.

Tarantino’s gorefests are savage insights into the actual, visceral consequences of the brutal violence they contain.

Violence I think most of us oppose.

And the film doesn’t make any sense. At. All.

The Lurking Redhead: I need my Satanic umlaut. Otherwise my nom de guerre joke by way of the Simpsons doesn’t make any sense.

Please?

I’ve never been so conflicted. But you have to see it.

 
 

Nice book. I look forward to the movie.
Don’t apologize Sporkey, let her rip. It pissed me off too I just didn’t have as much energy as you did.

Thanks.

It’s just that these people who protest and say “well, we can’t have insurance for everyone” and crap like that get me really, really, really angry, because it’s really that mentality – the “I deserve health insurance” people – that leads to a forty-five minute argument about how no, we can’t take you even if you have had group insurance for the past gazillion years, and yes, it’s on the record that we can’t accept you, and no, we can’t take that off, and yes, your doctor has recorded all of this information in your medical records, and why he didn’t tell you that you had COPD and that your blood sugar was high, I don’t know. Or better yet, with your shiny beautiful group insurance, why didn’t you get that stress test done? Because the pain went away? You were concerned enough to go to the ER but not so concerned that you wanted to follow through with your doctor’s recommendations to find out what was causing the pain. That question, I can ask. And usually it’s answered with, “Oh, I didn’t want to have all those tests done and I’m fine now anyway, so what’s the big deal?”

It’s at that point that I just want to ask, “So if you think you’re entitled to health insurance, then you’re for national healthcare, I assume?” I know what the answer would be, because these people seem to think that they are the only person that we won’t accept, and they take it as personal rejection of themselves, not something that is our guideline, or hell, a common guideline among all insurance companies. It’s like not accepting them for the heart attack that they had ten years ago, where they had to have angioplasty and a stent put in, is just like implying that they are an immoral person or that they are, in fact, not a special snowflake. And with every nutter screed that gets posted, I’m chuckling, because I’m thinking, “Wow, if you apply and we decline you, I’m sure you’ll be one of those assholes.”

“My mom is not a clunker?” No, but she’s got diabetes and COPD. It’s really good that she manages her conditions well. But, she’ll have to go on the state plan. Sorry, but we can’t help you. I would like to know how that’s any different than treating your mother like “a clunker”.

They really don’t have a clue about reality, I guess.

 
 

Not to get all “lookism” here, but how big a percentage of those folks in that last photo do you suppose have prescriptions for lipitor, lysinopril or beta blockers?

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

This is from Conservative Teacher’s blog.

“Today around the nation there were rally’s held to oppose the Democrat’s healthcare plan, and I attended the one in Birmingham, home of Democrat Gary Peter’s.”

Yo, conteach, you gots yourself a little problem with the grammar, no? Spag help us if you are teaching English to kids. I know some people here think it’s crap, but you might want to consult The Elements of Style concerning concepts such as plural nouns and the use of possessive apostrophes.

English pass? Sadly (deeply, fundamentally), No!

 
 

g at 17:29 said

As for “lookism,” my first thought was “that’s a real bunch old fat white people” or as my wife would say “that’s some acres of ass there”

 
 

Is ACORN just an all around substitute for n***** now?

‘Yeah, I went to protest against government Stalinism at the town hall but there were all the ACORN types around?’

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

Oh, and Sporkey, have at it. Someone has to say something besides “POOP!” or “HITLER!” around here.

POOP!

HITLER!

 
 

GumbyAnne–

Thanks for your question. PPO stands for “Planned Parenthood O-bortion,” while HMO stands for “HoMOsexual Abortion.” We’re sure you can find the service you need from these two options, at a price you can afford.

 
 

Honus–

I hope your nom de guerre is properly reverential toward the single greatest Pirate and shortstop in the history of baseball.

“Acres Of Ass” is pure poetry.

 
 

Don’t journey to far off lands when you can find Acres of Ass in your own back yard!

 
 

Not to get all “lookism” here, but how big a percentage of those folks in that last photo do you suppose have prescriptions for lipitor, lysinopril or beta blockers?

Um, about 500% of them.

Christ, I think I’ve filled a few of theirs, in fact.

 
 

Mr. Wonderful’s opinions are akin to unanaesthetized cataract removal surgeries.

Trust me. I’m an eye doctor. They go poorly.

 
 

“Is ACORN just an all around substitute for n***** now?”

Yup. Always have been. Always will be.

 
 

August, over at xoverboard, makes a good case for it being essentially a live-action remake of every WWII Bugs Bunny cartoon ever made.

What, including “Falling Hare”?!! If so, it just got about 800% more interesting to me.

 
 

For the cutting and the pasting: pöplikid

 
 

Haddin caught out for 34.

Na na na na…na na na na…hey hey hey…goodbye Ashes!!11!!!

Oz at 327-6 chasing 546.

BWAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 

Wow, instead of picking apart my argument logical piece by piece, like I did to Sadly, No!, you all picked up on a typo and had a dozen comments on it. Way to prove my point that the liberal left is morally and intellectually bankrupt, and can’t argue their way out of paper bag. You all follow the radical advice of personalizing something and then attacking it.

These events are not organized by any group out there- most of the people at them hear about them from friends or family who are going. There are groups out there, but they are piggbacking on the movement against national socialized healthcare, not sponsoring it.

The truth is that for many years our country has been going in the wrong direction- under Big-government Bush, and now under Obama. We need to return the principles that made America great, that made our nation exceptional- freedom, liberty, and protection of property. I suppose you all want to argue with that though?

 
 

YES YES YES!1111!!!1111!!!

A proper moniker and the sixth wicket!1!1!!!!

Jeebus bless you, tigrismus.

Jeebus bless you.

 
 

“Inglourious Basterds” is a pretty good movie, exciting and suspenseful all the way through. The scene in the tavern is like part of different movie, an even better movie. The teevee ads make it look super violent, and its not. The violence is shocking, but its not wall-to-wall. Diane Kruger is excellent.

 
 

BTW, congrats to all the All Blacks supporters out there.

Bledisloe magic! Have you ever seen such poor decision making? From the inexplicable refusal to kick for touch off their own 3-meter line to the inexplicable refusal to drop-kick for goal after winning clean ball from 20 metres out?

I was teaching a Yank about rugby last night, and he actually asked me, “How come they didn’t drop-kick for goal?” as time ran out.

They’re not all bad, those Yanks.

It’s so funny when Australia lose…

 
 

A Conservative Teacher said on her? blog.

“Recently I bought a yellow “Don’t Tread on Me” flag, and I brought that to the rally to wave.”

Why did nothing George Bush ordered inspire the same purchase?
Why did the declaration by George Bush that he could spy on whomever he chose, whenever he chose, for as long as he desired, NOT inspire a purchase of “Don’t Tread On Me”?

BUT

Obama wanting to get 47 million Americans health insurance does?

That is a real question that I would really like to hear the answer.

 
 

Seventh wicket gone.

PONTING SUCKS! PONTING SUCKS! PONTING SUCKS!

 
 

. We need to return the principles that made America great, that made our nation exceptional- freedom, liberty, and protection of property. I suppose you all want to argue with that though?

Concern troll is very concerned.

 
 

Conservative teacher is a emotionally unhinged wacko:

The highlight of the afternoon came as I was engaged by a supporter of the single-payer system (that’s what her sign said), and told me that my view didn’t matter at all, and that I should just pay for the increased healthcare and be happy about it. I told her that I was a person who had rights, and she laughed at me, and several of her friends came and told me that I was in the minority now. I started to grow angry, so I began to yell louder and louder that I was a person, that I was endowed by God with rights that no one could take away, and that those rights were life, liberty, and property. These Obamacare supportes laughed at me, and said that I was in the minority, and I began to yell louder and louder yet- the rights were God-given and include my right to live free and to keep and earn property. Liberals may laugh about these things, but I still believe in the Declaration of Independence and the ideas it espouses- revolutionary ideas that say to fight tyranny such as this proposal.

Conservative teacher gets upset when people laugh at her, and she starts to yell about her God-given rights!

Conservative teacher came to the wrong blog if she doesn’t want to get laughed at.

 
 

““Inglourious Basterds” is a pretty good movie, exciting and suspenseful all the way through. The scene in the tavern is like part of different movie, an even better movie. The teevee ads make it look super violent, and its not. The violence is shocking, but its not wall-to-wall. Diane Kruger is excellent.”

I would argue that Christoph Werth and Melanie Laurent were the dynamic forces behind the film’s excellence.

The escenes of extremely graphic violence were brief payoff following excruciating sequences of “Will the Nazis find our heroes out?” tension, which you know are going to end badly in a Tarantino film.

Still…what was the point?

PS–eighth wicket down.

PPS–ninth wicket down.

What a great day.

 
 

As for it being a ‘Constitutional Issue”.

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Can you show me where “Free Market Capitalism” shows up in the U.S. Constitution?

 
 

It’s all over for the Ozzies but the crying.

POM power bitchez!111!!1!!11!111!1eleventy!1!1!1!!!

 
 

Freedom and liberty? Is that a heritage of tradition or a tradition of heritage?

 
 

The truth is that for many years our country has been going in the wrong direction- under Big-government Bush

Odd that you guys were so subdued about it for all those years, though, until THE BLACK MUSLIN RADICAL got elected.

Where were the valiant Tree-of-Liberty waterers with their AR-15s at all those Bush rallies?

 
 

Oh, Conservative Teacher shows as mastered a grasp of Civics as she does spelling:

There is no term limit (there is for the Committee–3 years), so I guess it’s a lifetime appointment.

My dear, wee school-children in rompers know that political appointees of any particular administration are considered out of the job when the administration is out of office.

 
 

Game. Over.

Ashes. Ours.

 
 

these people seem to think that they are the only person that we won’t accept, and they take it as personal rejection of themselves, not something that is our guideline, or hell, a common guideline among all insurance companies.

And why not? Depending on how old they are, they’ve probably spent their entire lives being bombarded with the message that God™ and/or Free Market Forces™ always reward virtue and enterprise with material benefits. The obvious take-away is that if you’re denied a benefit (or are struggling financially in general) then its clearly your fault for being some kind of a lazy scumbag.

 
 

Engerland Engerland Engerland

Engerland EngerLAND Engerlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

Engerland Engerland EngerlAAAND

ENG-ER-LAND!!!!!!1!!!!!!11!!1!1!1!!!!!!!

 
Smiling Mortician
 

If you notice the signs, they are all home made.

But if you don’t notice them, they are mass produced.

IT IS MAGIC.

 
 

Sorry, a little pissed and forgot the last ENG-ER-LAND!!!!!!1!!!!!!11!!1!1!1!!!!!!!

 
 

These events are not organized by any group out there- most of the people at them hear about them from ill-informed/misinformed/completely unhinged friends or family who are going. There are groups out there, but they are piggbacking capitalizing on the movement against national socialized healthcare irrational fear of a black president by ascribing to him the desire to kill whitey, not sponsoring it.

The truth is that for many years our country has been going in the wrong direction- under Big-government Bush, and now under Obama, though Clinton was just great, so disregard all that stuff we said about him having people murdered and being a rapist and all. We need to return the principles that made America great, that made our nation exceptional- freedom, liberty, and protection of property – so long as all that property is owned by a few rich white people. If it comes to protecting the property of less-wealthy people against the rapacious greed of medical insurers – well, individual responsibility, people. What is it about this that you don’t get?

 
 

The truth is that for many years our country has been going in the wrong direction- under Big-government Bush, and now under Obama.

Oh, fuck off. For all those years, you people either cheered or said nothing as Bush eviscerated habeas corpus, violated our 4th-Amendment rights against unrestrained wiretapping, attacked the 1st Amendment by shunting protesters into “Free Speech Zones,” and threw the Geneva Conventions out the window. And even now, as Obama continues some of those policies, the only protests come from the left.

And if we want government intervention in health care, carbon emissions, energy policy, and banking, it’s because your One True God, the Free Market (peace be upon it), has utterly failed to make any sort of adjustment to avoid multiple disasters.

So yeah, it falls to the government. That’s why Governments are instituted among Men, with the just consent of the governed.

Now, playtime!
you all picked up on a a half dozen typos and had a dozen comments to comment on it.

Fixt.

they are piggbacking on the movement against national socialized healthcare

Are you Andrew Sullivan? ‘Cause I hear he’s into that piggbacking thing.

 
 

g said;
Conservative teacher came to the wrong blog if she doesn’t want to get laughed at.

Darn it! You scared her off!

 
 

Still don’t know how you Yanks deal with these Jeebus-shouting subhuman troglodytes in your midst, these colossal fuckups that hold your potentially great nation back.

I’ll wager they all hate cricket, too…

 
 

Melanie Laurent was just some beautiful face so that Tarantino could wheel his camera up to six inches (15cm) away. “Look scared…its okay I’ll fix it in post.”, “Look angry…its okay I’ll fix it in post.”, “Look quizzical…that means you don’t know anything…perfect.”
Christophe Waltz had more lines than Brad Pitt, and was more scary.

 
 

We need to return to the principles that made this country great: (1) greed, (2) killing those with darker skin and less property than ourselves, (3) flaunting our religiosity, (4) PENIS.

 
 

The question is: how many scenes focused around women’s feet are there in IG, and how long are said scenes? Inquiring minds &c

 
 

Djur said at 19:05
The question is: how many scenes focused around women’s feet are there in IG, and how long are said scenes?

Two. Twelve picocycles and fourteen picocycles respectively.

 
 

“Melanie Laurent was just some beautiful face so that Tarantino could wheel his camera up to six inches (15cm) away. “Look scared…its okay I’ll fix it in post.”, “Look angry…its okay I’ll fix it in post.”, “Look quizzical…that means you don’t know anything…perfect.”

Come on. Melanie Laurent’s performance was miles ahead of Diane Kruger’s, whose performance was truly excellent.

Laurent’s Soshanna character was far more complex and nuanced than Kruger’s von Hammersmark, requiring a depth of range unavailable to Kruger. Laurent’s ethereal beauty certainly didn’t hurt…

Christoph Werth? As creepy a performance as I’ve ever seen.

 
 

I have heard that there is the signature foot fetish scene. You gots it.

It’s eeeeeevil to help people and save their lives and keep them from living with pain and infirmity.

It takes away their freeeeeeeeeeeedom!

Obama is the breath mint of fascism and socialism!

 
 

We need to return the principles that made America great, that made our nation exceptional- freedom, liberty, and protection of property. I suppose you all want to argue with that though?

OK, I’ll play.

What was Jefferson’s take on the pros and cons of the Cloud Computing trend? Did Hamilton think derivative commodity market were a good idea? Franklin was a smart, sciencey guy; what were his opinions about string theory? Silly, right, because all those questions turn on things that did not exist at the time our government was initially formed. You know what else didn’t exist? The fucking Industrial Revolution.

In the world Teh Founders inhabited, corrupt feudal states were the primary source of widespread oppression and disenfranchisement. From where they were standing, anything private running the economy was, by definition, better than the status quo. But none of them saw– indeed could not have seen— that concentrated wealth and power in private hands could lead to exactly the same incestuous, self-dealing, “rich enough not to care” corruption that infested the feudal state.

Spilling out into the street to protest imaginary “Death Panels” while defending insurance companies’ non-imaginary ricission policies because one is Big Gubbmit and the other is the Magical Free Market is why we mock you. Pretending that trying to go back to a pre-industrial view of world will somehow fix the problems of the 21st century is why we’re not nice about it.

 
 

Concern-troll’s concern concerns me deeply.

Way to prove my point that the liberal left is morally and intellectually bankrupt, and can’t argue their way out of paper bag. You all follow the radical advice of personalizing something and then attacking it.

When you (a) assume I’m a liberal & then (b) conclude that I’m thus automatically qualified to be considered both a dolt & a cretin, yeah, I sort of take that personally.

Attack it? Not if you can back any of it up with anything real. Trouble is, you’re talking out your ass so hard I can tell what you ate last night – & no matter how hard you cross your fingers, anyone who can think above the level of a three-year-old can figure that out too. Your presumption is in a dead-heat with your illogic & no matter which one snaps the tape on the finish-line, you lose.

I doubt anyone put a gun to your head & made you take the moniker of “Teacher” – yet your orthography is shit, & your logic may be even worse. Freedom, liberty & protection of property? Yeah, American history is just jam-freakin’-packed with THOSE goodies, alright: gosh, your ancestors sure did a fucking AWESOME job of “protecting” the First Peoples’ property, huh? After they raped, tortured, starved & butchered almost all of them, I mean. Not to mention all that property that used to belong to Japanese-Americans until you “protected” it at public auction for pennies on the dollar, once you’d arbitrarily incarcerated them in rural concentration-camps out of pure racist malice, without so much as one solitary molecule of evidence that any of them posed any risk to America’s security … so, which noble American principle best describes THAT little escapade, “Teacher” – liberty or freedom?

Bush rapes habeas corpus, taps your phone & spies on your e-mail without a warrant yet you can’t be bothered to do more than sulk (& I suspect I’m giving you one hell of a Jumbo Buffet of Benefit-Of-The-Doubt Salad here) … but Obama tries to fix one of the biggest, costliest & most toxic clusterfucks now stinking up the ambience in your nation’s collective living-room & suddenly you’re losing your shit like a freshly-jilted sophomore.

Your outrage needs its bearings & its timing adjusted.

 
 

Best Tarantino foot fetish scene is in Dusk Til Dawn, obviously. I can see ol Quent writing that and explaining it to Salma Hayek. “So, in this scene, basically you stick your foot right in my face, and… well, that’s about it. Let’s rehearse right now.”

 
 

The foot fetish scene is a horrifically inverted Cinderella story.

I’m guessing it would be incredibly morbid eroticism, if that’s your thing.

 
Griswold the Penetrator, scourge of Polania
 

“I began to yell louder and louder … and I began to yell louder and louder yet”

And you say the Obamacare supporters were not swayed by this logic? They -are- unreasonable.

 
 

I grew up in Birmingham and usually get back to see my parents once a year (lovely people if you don’t discuss politics with them.) One of the interesting things is the incredibly huge amount of latte shops and volvo dealerships you see there.
For Conteach, yes I checked out your blog and read that you don’t like your hard earned money being taxed and used for things like curing sick kids. That’s fine, however, I know a lot of people in Birmingham send their kids to private schools, why should they pay your salary? (If I still lived in Birmingham and my kids had you as a teacher, I would be pulling them out immediately. I assume you would be happy to increase your freedom by giving me a refund of my tax money.)

 
 

eturn the principles that made America great, that made our nation exceptional- freedom, liberty, and protection of property.

No, actually that would be the “pursuit of happiness”. Are you admitting you haven’t even read the Declaration of Independence?

 
 

There are no snakes in Iceland.

 
Kellog is Hitler
 

Eat my Post cereal, Libtards!

 
 

The hand-winging and boo-hoo-hooing from the Ozzie crew on Fuck’s Sports 3 is out-and-out hi-larious.

All around me Sydney mourns as I rejoice.

Work today is going to be, like, totally bonzer.

 
 

N__B said,
August 23, 2009 at 14:51

“Talentless large-breasted actresses? That’s a big enough demographic to have its own congressman.”

LEAVE SARAH PALIN ALONE!

 
 

Talentless large-breasted actresses? That’s a big enough demographic to have its own congressman.

That’s the ticket! We’ve been going about this all wrong. Instead of geographical representation, we should have demographical representation.

When C-SPAN broadcasts the debate on the floor among Senator Hottie (D-Cup, Plastic Surgery,) Senator Billbob, (R-Neck, Confederacy,) and Senator Warcraft (Y-Gen, VideoGamers) …

You’ll thank me.

 
 

You’ll thank me.

Only if C-SPAN broadcasts Rep. Muntz putting Rep. Van Houten’s head in the toilet.

 
 

One of my favorite TV shows was not renewed AND THIS IS AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION.

 
 

Way to prove my point that the liberal left is morally and intellectually bankrupt, and can’t argue their way out of paper bag. You all follow the radical advice of personalizing something and then attacking it.

Hee hee! That whole statement is a personal attack against people just because they differ in political ideology.

 
 

“You all follow the radical advice of personalizing something and then attacking it.”

Like I’m doing right now!

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

I just love the one consistent aspect of the winger mentality — simultaneously believing completely contradictory ideas, eg, that libruls are at once wimpy, cowardly terrorist-coddlers and jackbooted, tyrranical, murderous nazis.

How can they keep their heads from exploding?

 
 

We need to return the principles that made America great, that made our nation exceptional- freedom, liberty, and protection of property.

Freedom and liberty for those who aren’t property, of course.

 
 

the tea-baggers can take a fly f***. Bush II treated the Constitution and the rule of law like toilet paper and they claimed that complaining about it was unpatriotic at best, if not actually treasonous. But when President Obama wants to guarantee healthcare they suddenly start screaming about freedom and liberty. The only freedom people like “‘conservative’ ‘teacher'” want is the freedom to deny others basics such as healthcare, food, shelter, a living wage. etc. Frankly CT, YOU’RE the anti-American as the country, and our society, is made worse by your very presence…

 
 

Freedom and liberty for those who are white Protestant Christian, rightwing, heterosexuals without some icky illness aren’t property, of course.

slight edit…

 
 


How can they keep their heads from exploding?

Really tight hats.

But back off-topic. Really? Tarantino? He hasn’t put out a film I liked since Reservoir Dogs. I don’t really get the hype. He does schlocky movies in a way that seems like condescension. There’s never any pay-off in ideas, either. Just (not so good) spectacle. But hey, some people like Michael Bay too. Some people like Michael Bay.

 
 

Free-to-be
term-in-ally
broke-and-ill
that’s-freedom!

(And a flying split… and shake those pompoms…)

 
 

“Franklin was a smart, sciencey guy; what were his opinions about string theory?”

Silly LIEbril. Benjamin Franklin put a kite on one end and a key in a glass jar at the other so he could capture Nature’s life essence. That’s his sting theory st00pid liebrils. We could have lived forever in exceptional freedom, liberty, and protection of pooper-ty but you islamofascists had to go and make the darkies fully human an give yer wimmins teh votes.

 
 

We’ve seen it, without the money injection the wingtards political platform collapses. The town halls have forced the financiers to come from behind the curtain. The more meetings that are held, the more likely the exposure ruins their plans. Have more town hall meetings!

 
 

I just love the one consistent aspect of the winger mentality — simultaneously believing completely contradictory ideas, eg, that libruls are at once wimpy, cowardly terrorist-coddlers and jackbooted, tyrranical, murderous nazis.

According to Eco, that’s a feature not a bug:

When I was a boy I was taught to think of Englishmen as the five-meal people. They ate more frequently than the poor but sober Italians. Jews are rich and help each other through a secret web of mutual assistance. However, the followers of Ur-Fascism must also be convinced that they can overwhelm the enemies. Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak. Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy.

SeeAlso: “Obama is a ruthless pansy-ass elitist thug.”, “Saddam Hussein is a paper tiger whose magical flying drones are poised to dust your home with anthrax.”, “the public option will be so sucky and inefficient it will put private insurers out of business.” etc, etc, ad fucking nauseum.

Oh my. Did I just compare American right-wing ultras to Fascists? How uncivil.

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

Health insurance is murder!!!1

 
 

The chairman of the Health committee, according to HR 3200, that will run the entire healthcare system and have extensive powers as needed, will be appointed by the President, with no confirmation, and has no term limit or time length. The health committee members (all but 1 of whom are by law are not to be from the health industry) are a 3 year limit, but the all-powerful Health czar is appointed for life without confirmation.

Didn’t liberals once care about things like a too powerful government? For 8 years I heard liberals and Democrats talk endlessly about how Bush was trying to turn our nation into a dictatorship and run things without the people having any say. HR 3200 has a non-confirmed, lifetime appointed, roving powers over 1/4 of the economy, position. That is what you are supporting? That is what you are fighting so hard for?

Calm down, read a history book or an economic book, and think- the greatest fear to your life, liberty, and property is always the state. Read Locke, Rouseau, or Hobbes. You want to give the state more power over your lives- that decision is a very important one, and 9/10 turns out badly. I want to give you more power over your lives- I want to empower you to be all that you can be. I want to stand up and shout life, liberty, and property. And I’m a bad person who deserves to be personally attacked over and over again? The saddest thing to me about you all is that you believe in Obama, whereas you don’t believe in me and you. That makes me very sad for you.

 
 

Getting back to the more important topic, Inglourious Basterds, I’m glad that I’m not the only one who found fault with Melanie Laurent’s performance. It wasn’t so much that she was bad — I just felt her repertoire of expressions was extremely limited given the silent-acting demands of her role.

But for the most part, I thought the film was terrific, and the resolution of Laurent’s storyline was particularly surprising.

 
 

I just love the one consistent aspect of the winger mentality — simultaneously believing completely contradictory ideas, eg, that libruls are at once wimpy, cowardly terrorist-coddlers and jackbooted, tyrranical, murderous nazis.

And the fact that Obama is a radical socialist and got elected is somehow proof that this country is conservative. Not to mention stupid intellectual who don’t know as much as self-taught creation “scientists”, unpatriotic military leaders (eg. McCain coming up behind Clinton, Paul and Obama among presidential troop donations), militant fags who will force you with all their manliness to be a pansy like them, and now Democrats who want to see more people insured so they can kill them. There’s really no end to it.

Has “California Uber Alles” been co-opted by them yet? The suede denim secret police/here to make off with your uncool niece…

 
 

“A Conservative Teacher said,

August 23, 2009 at 18:03

The truth is …”

I though the truth was the guy who made stupid predictions about elections, then changed his nick repeatedly when he couldn’t take the laughing of the rest of the sadlynouts. Was I mistaken?

 
 

How ironic that conservative teacher works in a public high school, sucking off the government teet while lamenting the “socialist takeover” of American public life by the evil government. Sort of a low-rent Glenn Reynolds.

 
 

These events are not organized by any group out there- most of the people at them hear about them from friends or family who are going.

And somehow they all ended up with identical copies of this aberrant flag that has borrowed the sphincter of stars from the EU flag. Right.

Cricket, by the way, makes a lot more sense if you realise that it is not a game, but rather a refined form of Morris dancing.

 
 

Cricket, by the way, makes a lot more sense if you realise that it is not a game, but rather a refined form of Morris dancing.

That makes a lot more sense. Every time I saw it, I thought I must not be drunk enough to “get” it. Just like baseball.

 
 

These events are not organized by any group out there who really gives a flying fig about whether the participants live or die.

Fixed.

 
 

Seriously. If their heads aren’t exploding after President Obama’s Ramadan greetings speech, with real furrin words, I don’t know what it’s going to take.

 
 

ConTeach is at all possible for you to provide a link so we can read what you are talking about? It certainly sounds insidious but quoting a vague number and making some thunder and lightening noises isn’t that convincing.

Show me the text,Teach?

 
 

N.C. said,
It’s the American flag from Fallout 3!

According to a Fallout wiki, “The only difference [between the Fallout flag and the putative* Cowpens Battle flag] is a much enlarged anus middle star”. So these nimrods use the WRONG ONE.
I was not previously aware that there is a Nobel prize for Failhood, but there must be, or people would not try so hard to win one.

* Putative, because “the Cowpens design may date to the American Revolution, but the actual flag held at Maryland dates no earlier than 1843.”

 
 

The internet is against the principles of James Madison. Or Dolly Madison. Or maybe it was Holly Madison. One of ’em, and it’s UN-CONSTITUTIONAL.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

If you notice the signs, they are all home made. No professional looking signs like what the SEIU and ACORN bring to their events.

Only because the astroturfers on the Right are too cheap to have signs printed and trick their followers into buying the materials themselves.

 
 

Cricket, by the way, makes a lot more sense if you realise that it is not a game, but rather a refined form of Morris dancing.

I am so using that.

Still working on figuring out curling. Been at it for almost ten years, ever since I moved into range of Canadian stations, and still don’t get it.

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

The protests are always, always couched in religious terms.

(Town-haller waving finger in Arlen Specter’s face, telling him God will judge him and his damn cronies…)

If you learned your critical-thinking skillz in church, life is going to be one long, hard lesson in bafflement and impotent rage.

 
 

I just felt her repertoire of expressions was extremely limited given the silent-acting demands of her role.

Tarantino should have hired Kathy Ireland. You don’t need a repertoire of expressions if you’ve been on the cover of the SI swimsuit edition.

 
 

From HR 3200, one of the several healthcare bills that’s still in committee: “(1) IN GENERAL.—The Administration shall be
16 headed by a Health Choices Commissioner (in this
17 division referred to as the ‘‘Commissioner’’) who
18 shall be appointed by the President, by and with the
19 advice and consent of the Senate.
20 (2) COMPENSATION; ETC.—The provisions of
21 paragraphs (2), (5), and (7) of subsection (a) (relat22
ing to compensation, terms, general powers, rule23
making, and delegation) of section 702 of the Social
24 Security Act (42 U.S.C. 902) shall apply to the
25 Commissioner and the Administration in the same
26 manner as such provisions apply to the Commissioner of Social Security and the Social Security Ad2
ministration.”

From 42 USC 902 – Sec. 902. Commissioner; Deputy Commissioner; other officers :”(3) The Commissioner shall be appointed for a term of 6 years”

So there is in fact a Senate confirmation process and 6-year term. Maybe you should try reading a little bit, too.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

If you learned your critical-thinking skillz in church, life is going to be one long, hard lesson in bafflement and impotent rage.

You have to agree that the big payoff happens after they die, though.

 
 

J— said,
August 23, 2009 at 15:07

Going back to Birmingham
Out in eastern Michigan
Going back to Birmingham
Out in eastern Michigan
You know the blast fax said
we’re gonna stick it to the Man

Just started catching up with the thread, but this is pretty excellent. Hope others noticed too.

 
 

I like the way Conservative Teacher freaks out over being laughed at by liberals, jumps to an astonishingly wrong conclusion that the president is appointing people “for lifetime terms”, and then admonishes US to “calm down and read.”

I want to stand up and shout life, liberty, and property.

Well, you certainly have been doing that. Congratulations, your right to free speech is certainly affirmed!

 
 

The Obamacare bill has wording in it that if carefully pieced together reveals that a Chicago comptroller will be authorized to revenge murder all conservatives for his own former death.

 
 

I want to stand up and shout life, liberty, and property Tractors! Turnip! Buttocks!
Fickzled for great justice.

 
 

The “get offa my lawn” folks have found an alternative to staying home and playing canasta.

 
 

So the lessons from the August Congressional recess are:

People can carry loaded weapons to Town Hall meetings

People who protest at Town Hall meetings get to appear on national TeeVee and state their views.

Tell me again about what Constitutional rights are being eroded under the Obama administration?

 
 

The Obamacare bill has wording in it that if carefully pieced together reveals that a Chicago comptroller will be authorized to revenge murder all conservatives for his own former death.

Death by manila folder cuts.

 
 

Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You’re my only hope.

Also, ppttthhhhhhthththphphphthtttthhhhhhhhhppp.
Here in Teh Librul Home of Teh Gay Agenda, we can get that many people together for even more pointless enterprises. If there actually are more pointless enterprises.

 
 

A commenter on the thread writes:

I live in Birmingham and this had nothing to do with a community protest. The majority of the signs and flags were NOT handmade. Funny how so many had expensive versions of the same 1776 flag with the Roman Number “II” in the middle…

Nice angle on the camera to make the crowd look bigger. That is a small triagular strip of land that couldn’t hold a thousand people if it tried.

Also…MY government and MY tax dollars in Birmingham had to pay for your police protection. Like the government involvement then?

Oh and I am not a liberal Democrat. Just an independent voter who is embarrassed by “unChristian” behaviour. I am just a 50 yr old female owner of an Oakland County technology company who struggles to find affordable health care for all of my employees and their families. But heck, why should I care when I got mine?

Shame on all of you.

P.S. Blogprof: Got to love the health care at Oakland University! I hear you may go on strike and keeping your current health care plan is one of the issues. Guess it is a big enough concern to you that you are willing to strike. But heaven forbid being concerned about others.

 
 

Very kind of you, SomeNYGuy.

Six-year terms are tyranny.

 
 

WereBear said,
August 23, 2009 at 22:44

Still working on figuring out curling.

Are you sure you’re giving the iron enough time to heat up first?

 
 

freaks out over being laughed at by liberals, jumps to an astonishingly wrong conclusion… and then admonishes US to “calm down and read.”

It was touched on earlier, but I like this juxtaposition.

There were also supporters of the healthcare plan at the rally… I engaged these people in debate… I won the debate by relying on facts, statistics, history, and the core principles of our nation.

Which core principles might those be?

I started to grow angry, so I began to yell louder and louder… These Obamacare supportes laughed at me, and said that I was in the minority, and I began to yell louder and louder yet

While, alas, not entirely inaccurate, screaming at one’s opponents is hardly the facet of American Values that somebody entrusted to help develop the minds of our children should default to. Perhaps that’s why wingnuts hate public education.

Also, from the comments at bogstupidprof comes this lovely site.

Where is it in the Constitution that Health Care, and Cap and Trade are mentioned? For that matter, where is Social Security, global-warming research, welfare, mass transit, food stamps, minimum wage, Medicaid, Medicare, and unemployment insurance?

Yep.

 
 

Are you sure you’re giving the iron enough time to heat up first?

Good one.

I’m still watching because it doesn’t matter. I enjoy the commentary, which goes something like “And heee’ll be getting the stone in the hoose there, with a dinkydilly wrapped around the mcbuzznut. WIth some fine sweeeeping and proper wrist action, the Oak Ankles should have this sewn up liekuh tick in duct tape der.”

 
 

Calm down, read a history book or an economic book, and think- the greatest fear to your life, liberty, and property is always the state. Read Locke, Rouseau, or Hobbes.

I wouldn’t lump Hobbes in with either Locke or Rousseau with regard to the state as a threat. If anything, Hobbes saw the state – in the form of an absolute monarch – as the guarantor of order and safety. The greatest threat to one’s life, liberty and property according to Hobbes, is your fellow citizen, who will try to take those things from you if the state is not there to prevent that.

 
 

People who protest at Town Hall meetings get to appear on national TeeVee and state their views.

Meanwhile let’s hear from all the Bush-era protesters who were allowed to speak their piece on national TV:

*crickets*

It’s Norm Olson and the “we’re just boyscouts protecting the country” Militias all over again.

 
 

The state can be quite a dangerous institution, which is why it’s so interesting that conservatives want it only to be on the side of the super-rich and the ultra-powerful, and continually prefer that the state preserve and protect the interests of private incorporations over the private individual.

Jefferson had a few things to say about incorporations, too.

 
 

Why can’t anyone refer to these things for what they are: a bunch of bigoted assholes throwing a tantrum because a black liberal Democrat won an election.

 
 

Where is it in the Constitution that Health Care, and Cap and Trade are mentioned? For that matter, where is Social Security, global-warming research, welfare, mass transit, food stamps, minimum wage, Medicaid, Medicare, and unemployment insurance?

Where too are the FDA, USDA, FAA, SEC, etc? Safety is theft.

 
 

Actually, where is the ability to limit our right to sue, ludicrously called “tort reform” by these neo-originalists?

 
 

For that matter, does it mention Birmingham, Michigan? THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE!

 
 

This so-called “Glenn Beck”? Not mentioned in the Constitution.

Off the electric teevee with yah, sirrah!

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Meanwhile let’s hear from all the Bush-era protesters who were allowed to speak their piece on national TV:

To be fair, Cindy Sheehan did get the national spotlight for awhile. Of course, what she was fighting for a sane cause, and wasn’t basing her position on a pile of paranoid delusions. Also, she wasn’t astroturf and wasn’t really supported by Democrats.

 
 

Sigh.

The chairman of the Health committee, according to HR 3200, that will run the entire healthcare system and have extensive powers as needed, will be appointed by the President, with no confirmation, and has no term limit or time length. The health committee members (all but 1 of whom are by law are not to be from the health industry) are a 3 year limit, but the all-powerful Health czar is appointed for life without confirmation.

Given that you’re representing a “movement” that would also like me to believe that “the healthcare bill” is going to do things like mandate sex changes and euthanize old people, I refuse to take your word, or any other conservative’s, on what is actually contained in the bill and what the implications of those things are.

Didn’t liberals once care about things like a too powerful government? For 8 years I heard liberals and Democrats talk endlessly about how Bush was trying to turn our nation into a dictatorship and run things without the people having any say.

Right, because Bush’s Office of Legal Council was full of people who asserted that the President could claim nearly boundless powers without the approval, or even the knowledge, of the other two branches of government. The entire premise of Bush’s fist term in office was to “reclaim” power that had been “taken” from the executive following Watergate.

This is very different from an elected body, deliberating about policy changes that they campaigned on and for which the majority of its members were elected, and eventually passing a bill by majority vote.

That you can’t (or won’t) see the difference is not surprising.

HR 3200 has a non-confirmed, lifetime appointed, roving powers over 1/4 of the economy, position. That is what you are supporting? That is what you are fighting so hard for?

See above.

Calm down, read a history book or an economic book, and think- the greatest fear to your life, liberty, and property is always the state. Read Locke, Rouseau, or Hobbes. You want to give the state more power over your lives- that decision is a very important one, and 9/10 turns out badly.

See, when you wingnuts start carrying on about “giving more power to the state”, I sometimes wonder if you’re aware of the fact that in 2008, an election took place, wherein the American people elected representatives who promised to carry out a particular policy agenda, one that will have to be passed by a majority vote.

This is very different from the sort of thing that Locke and Rousseau were arguing against.

Also, this Hobbes?

According to Hobbes, society is a population beneath a sovereign authority, to whom all individuals in that society cede their natural rights for the sake of protection. Any abuses of power by this authority are to be accepted as the price of peace.

I want to give you more power over your lives-

Bullshit. The current HCR proposal (which the people I voted for promised to deliver- remember that) gives me far more control over my own life than the status quo does.

I’m a freelance web developer, and at the moment I’m very fortunate to be covered by my dad’s health insurance plan (thanks to those goddamn evil bloodsucking labor unions), but when time runs out on that, I’m screwed- I either have to get hired by a megacorp that offers decent benefits (and give up the freedom of self-employment), purchase it on the private market, forking over 18% of my income and reducing my social and economic mobility (or “freedom”, if you prefer) in the process, or go without health insurance, which denies me the freedom to go the doctor when I get sick.

And I’m a bad person who deserves to be personally attacked over and over again? The saddest thing to me about you all is that you believe in Obama, whereas you don’t believe in me and you. That makes me very sad for you.

No, you’re not a bad person. You’re a Conservative, trolling a liberal humor blog where we come to make fun of people like you. You’re being personally attacked because that’s what we do here. Now fuck off.

 
 

I believe that Birmingham, Michigan may be part of Kenya. Why else won’t it release the vault copy of its founding documents.

 
 

To be fair, Cindy Sheehan did get the national spotlight for awhile. Of course, what she was fighting for a sane cause, and wasn’t basing her position on a pile of paranoid delusions. Also, she wasn’t astroturf and wasn’t really supported by Democrats.

I seem to recall, though, that A) she wasn’t always treated with respect and B) usually had to be “balanced” by some fucknozzle like Limbaugh or Beck or Coulter.

Teabaggers? No so much.

 
 

The only true Constitutionalists are the minimal government patriots of the Confederacy.

 
 

Any time these strict Constitutionalists want to live without central heating or a/c, forgo antibiotics and anesthetics, ride horses to work, and use an outdoor privy or chamber pot, they are welcome to do so.

 
 

They’re not “strict constitutionalists”. The correct term is douchenozzles.

 
 

If George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were alive today, surely they’d be out there at Town Halls with the teabaggers screaming that the government not kill Sarah Palin’s baby, because, you know, they were both redneck dumbasses who believed whatever stack of horse-shit they were handed by right wingers.

 
 

Strict constitutionalist seeks submissive activist, for document-interpretation-related activities.

 
 

I am intrigued by your text activities, and wish to subscribe to your web-ring.

 
 

How can they keep their heads from exploding?

I wish they wouldn’t, to be honest. The purpose of a bomb, as we learned in the movie Speed is to explode. We are denying the purpose of ill-informed nonsense and the pressure it exerts on the interiors of conservative skulls if we prevent them from becoming . . . what they are.

Also to add to the list of things not enumerated in the Constitution I would like to add that the Pentagon doesn’t appear there, nor the F-22, nor nuclear missiles. All of these should be abolished immediately. Also.

 
 

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
August 23, 2009 at 16:00

There’s another reason I almost missed my flight. Wasting time on the internets instead of checking out and driving to the airport.

Anyways, I have pics from New Mexico.

And more to come, I took 103 at Red Rock Park alone. I love digital photography. I used to take roll after roll of film and never get them developed because that part cost money. I just liked taking pictures, no what I mean? Nudge…
~

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Single white patriot seeks taxing times with young well armed male willing to be liberated from his clothes.

 
 

Actually, where is the ability to limit our right to sue, ludicrously called “tort reform” by these neo-originalists?

I would imagine that they see no such right at all, hence the desire to do away with it. Though admittedly, the thought that anybody would waste any time suing them for their damned grill and doublewide is at least somewhat amusing.

This dovetails in to their love of Hobbes, which relies only upon the mention of the “natural state”, which is, to these fuckwattles, the only state worth aspiring to. The concept of civil society or the social contract is beyond them. Reading past the introduction is far too much work for them.

As they can’t see beyond their own noses, the state wherein “each person would have a right, or license, to everything in the world”¹ is perfect for them, because they can simply dehumanize everybody but themselves and believe that they alone are entitled to everything. In their fantasy world, wholly enabled by the civil society they decry, in such a state they would rule triumphant, trampling all who got in their way, savoring each lick of every lollypop they swipe from some lonely tot. In reality, they themselves might find their sorry, overlarded asses first into the woodchipper, to be made into Alpo for some oligarch’s hound. The fact that they draw constantly upon the labors of others means nothing to them, if they are even capable of acknowledging it. These are the people in whose minds roads build themselves.

Jefferson had a few things to say about incorporations, too.

Let’s not even get in to the whole “standing army” thing.

 
valkyr of science
 

I can’t help but notice how Conteach ignores activities that actually reduce people’s liberty, in favor of noting those activities which are said to reduce people’s liberty in 300-year-old books.

Do most Americans have any choice at all about healthcare right now, under the current, privatized, system? No.
Can every American get the healthcare they need right now? No.

But that’s not important, because The State Is The Enemy. Even when it does good things. Rousseau said so, and Rousseau was never wrong about anything. Rousseau also knew exactly what situations the world would face hundreds of years after his death. And Conteach certainly didn’t misread Rousseau, oh no. It’s written down, it must be true.

How much money on Conteach being a creationist?

 
 

How can they keep their heads from exploding?

According to Dr. Robert Altemyer, author of The Authoritarians, it’s because their brains are composed of many watertight compartments, so contradictory information never comes into contact.

This is why they get so vein-throbbing, spit-flying, incoherently-raving angry when rational argument and undeniable facts start moving those charged particles against the edges of their compartments. They are desperate to keep their heads from exploding.

Of course, Scanners and Titanic are actually coded cautionary tales about the dire consequences.

Also, this explains why their brains work similarly to a 1939 DeSoto transmission that was used to run moonshine in the mountains.

 
 

How much money on Conteach being an employee of a public agency – i.e., a School District – and being a member of a bargaining unit – i.e., teachers’ union – and having a health care plan and a public employees’ retirement plan?

 
 

I would imagine that they see no such right at all, hence the desire to do away with it.

They certainly may see it that way, 7th amendment be damned, but that doesn’t actually erase the problem for them: they believe that powers not specifically enumerated by the Constitution don’t exist(at the federal level), so if they were logically consistent they would have to admit the federal government doesn’t have the power to enact tort reform. Or the power to ban abortion, “defend” marriage, “war” on drugs, or engage in a lot of the stuff they demand.

 
 

How much money on Conteach being an employee of a public agency – i.e., a School District – and being a member of a bargaining unit – i.e., teachers’ union – and having a health care plan and a public employees’ retirement plan?

FYIGM. Shut up, that’s why.

 
 

One of the most insightful and humorous commentators on political reality and rhetoric is David Mitchell of the UK’s “Mitchell & Webb” radio & TV shows.

Here he is on the magic of avoiding tax hikes while avoiding cutting public services via the magic of promising to find and eliminate ‘waste’.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Much like concern over the deficit, concern over the constitution is something conservatives only have when liberals are governing.

 
 

Rousseau also knew exactly what situations the world would face hundreds of years after his death.

One wonders what Rousseau’s feelings about the “noble savage” might have been had he witnessed the revolution. Or one of today’s townhall teabagger hissy fits.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I love how Conservative Teechur is so concerned about the power of an unelected health care czar (OMG!!!! THAT’S RUSSIAN!!1!!), while being completely unconcerned about the power that an unelected CEO, board of directors, and passel of insurance company flacks already wields over the lives of sick Americans.

Of course, the fact that ACT is ignorant of the particulars behind the selection and tenure of said Czar is the wormy cherry on top of the shit sundae.

 
 

Ok, let’s try this again:

Rousseau also knew exactly what situations the world would face hundreds of years after his death.

One wonders what Rousseau’s attitude about the “noble savage” might have been had he witnessed the revolution. Or one of today’s townhall teabagger hissy fits.

 
 

Much like concern over the deficit, concern over the constitution is something conservatives only have when liberals are governing.

That is because EVERYTHING CONSERVATIVES DO IS BY DEFINITION IN THE CONSTITUTION including arresting people without any charges, spying on them without warrants, and detaining people without the right to challenge their charges.

 
 

the putative* Cowpens Battle flag

Veiled bull-dick reference? You decide.

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

Police officers, the military, DHS, NSA, CIA, all those types of government organizations can by definition do no wrong, ever. Torture is good and in fact a necessary good. But we must tremble in fear of the nazi-like, life- and liberty-destroying power of, erm, health insurance bureaucrats.

Boom goes the cranium.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

What’s up with WordPress? Damn thing’s done scarfing up my comments like Pantload mainlines pork rinds.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

How much money on Conteach being an employee of a public agency – i.e., a School District – and being a member of a bargaining unit – i.e., teachers’ union – and having a health care plan and a public employees’ retirement plan?

From Conteach’s own profile:

“A Conservative Teacher
As a public high school teacher and an elected official, I’ve been on the front lines of communicating conservativism for many years. I have taught many subjects in social studies in a public school near a major city in Michigan, and have been recognized several times for my teaching. Before that I worked in government and business for many years. My education includes a degree in political science from a top school, and another advanced degree in teaching from another top school. ”

Public union? Check.

And look at the “daily reading list” on the site. Pammy “The Old Baseball Mitt With Eyes.” Little Green Nimrods. Michelle Fangdalang. The Corner. It’s the usual gang of idiots.

Stupid git.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Isn’t it funny how Conservative Teacher has its panties in a bunch over the amount of power an appointed Health Czar (OMG IT’S RUSSIAN!!!!) would have over the lives of typical Americans while making nary a peep about the amount of power an unelected CEO/Board of Directors/Industry Flack has over the ability of Americans to make life and death choices?

 
 

Still, I’m just wondering, since ConTeach ascribes such importance to the government’s mandate to protect property, how she thinks that mandate shouldn’t be extended to sick people in danger of losing their homes and everything thanks to private insurance FAIL. Particularly when there is a sizeable body of evidence that much of said FAIL could more appropriately be classified as “fraud”. I guess ConTeach believes that insurance company shareholders’ property should be protected at the expense of our own, because in practical reality, this is how it works out, innit?

 
 

They certainly may see it that way, 7th amendment be damned, but that doesn’t actually erase the problem for them: they believe that powers not specifically enumerated by the Constitution don’t exist(at the federal level), so if they were logically consistent they would have to admit the federal government doesn’t have the power to enact tort reform. Or the power to ban abortion, “defend” marriage, “war” on drugs, or engage in a lot of the stuff they demand.

Which is why I don’t trust the conservatives’ claim that they favor “small government”. They like big government just fine when it does the things they want.

 
 

As a public high school teacher and an elected official….Before that I worked in government

Ah, yes. Well. Public Employees’ Retirement System. Union-negotiated salaries and benefits, including health insurance. Civic service employment conditions (certainly enough experience to understand that an executive appointee doesn’t have a “lifetime” term – dumbshit or liar, you make the call!).

 
 

“We’re not astroturfers not because we didn’t organize the protest, but because we can’t use a Kinko’s! Those aren’t for everyone, you know.”

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

“Civic service employment conditions”

And one has to wonder how many times Conteach had to rely on unions and/or civil service rules to save his or her ass from getting fired. I’m guessing plenty.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

“A Conservative Teacher
As a public high school teacher and an elected official, I’ve been on the front lines of communicating conservativism for many years. I have taught many subjects in social studies in a public school near a major city in Michigan, and have been recognized several times for my teaching. Before that I worked in government and business for many years. My education includes a degree in political science from a top school, and another advanced degree in teaching from another top school. ”

You don’t suppose this is Livonia, Michigan?

 
 

That’s it, man, I’m going to protest by not allowing soldiers to live in my home (they’re still welcome to visit but they can’t crash here, man).

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Well, I had a very relevant comment, but first WP told me I was submitting comments too quickly (2 days apart?) and on the second try sent it to apost that was about 9000 threads ago. FYWP!

 
 

Maybe if I change my name, it’ll take it?

“A Conservative Teacher
As a public high school teacher and an elected official, I’ve been on the front lines of communicating conservativism for many years. I have taught many subjects in social studies in a public school near a major city in Michigan, and have been recognized several times for my teaching. Before that I worked in government and business for many years. My education includes a degree in political science from a top school, and another advanced degree in teaching from another top school. ”

You don’t suppose this is Livonia, Michigan?

 
 

Why do wingnuts sometimes spontaneously adopt a tone reminiscent of Mr. Spock, randomly genuflecting on the importance of logic like some kind of Vulcan with Tourette syndrome?

 
 

I don’t think Con.Teach.’s bio is generic and detail-free enough.

As a person who does things, I’ve been on the front lines of stuff for a time. I’ve done things near a place, and stuff happened. Before that, I did other stuff. At some unspecified time in the past, I got something at one place and something else somewhere else.

 
 

While many of you still prefer insults and mocking instead of real talking, a couple of you have done your research. I didn’t know that our Health Choices commissioner would only rule for 6 years and needs confirmation by the Senate- that still doesn’t make me feel good about having another czar ruling over me.

While some of you seem to have other goals that involve personally attacking me, my goal is to help our whole society be better. Someone made a good point- why don’t we have real health care choices right now? Is it evil millionaire insurance agents, laughing in their mansions at the poor people? Or is it because there are laws on the books that prohibit competition across state lines and within states? Why does insurance cost so much? Do you think it is because insurance agents want to price people out of the market? Or is it because of the cost of insuring someone is really high, because of the high cost of doctors (limited by law), the cost of protecting from lawyers (no tort reform), etc?

Before changing our system to Canada’s, and before taking away people’s property, and before taking away liberty and freedom of choice, before taking away privacy rights, before rationing care to drive down costs, shouldn’t we try to put in place free market reforms and free choice reforms that have worked for us so well in the past? Why do you want to destroy the system that has worked so well for all these years?

 
 

yeah, well I got something at one place, too (and it was damned hard to get rid of!)

 
 

Where is it in the Constitution that Health Care, and Cap and Trade are mentioned? For that matter, where is Social Security, global-warming research, welfare, mass transit, food stamps, minimum wage, Medicaid, Medicare, and unemployment insurance?

Where too are the FDA, USDA, FAA, SEC, etc? Safety is theft.

We laugh, but I think that getting rid of all that stuff was Ron Paul’s platform for the 2008 elections.

 
 

Whoa, N.C., stop loading us down with all the details & stuff.

 
 

Why do you want to destroy the system that has worked so well for all these years?

…too stupid to live

 
 

my goal is to help our whole society be better

*snerk*

why don’t we have real health care choices right now
Why do you want to destroy the system that has worked so well for all these years?

Self-contradicting wingnut is self-contradicting.

before taking away people’s property, and before taking away liberty and freedom of choice, before taking away privacy rights, before rationing care to drive down costs

Yeah, ’cause that’s what we’re going to do. *double snerk*

 
 

We laugh, but I think that getting rid of all that stuff was Ron Paul’s platform for the 2008 elections.

Blue jeans are not in the CONSTITUTION.

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

Logic faulty…must…sterilize imperfection…sterilize…sterili..zzzzeee…..kaboooooommm!

 
 

Guide me Landru!

 
 

There may be no blue jeans in the Constitution, but I foresee Prejean in office! Tremble, liberals, for the Palin wannabes are legion.

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

“Why does insurance cost so much? Do you think it is because insurance agents want to price people out of the market? Or is it because of the cost of insuring someone is really high, because of the high cost of doctors (limited by law), the cost of protecting from lawyers (no tort reform), etc?”

ConTeach, maybe you should read this a few times to get a hint.

http://www.kaiserpapershawaii.org/kaiserpermanentehistory.htm

 
 

I foresee Prejean in office!

I foresee her in office-related hardcore.

 
 

that still doesn’t make me feel good about having another czar ruling over me.

That Bush feller had czars. I seem to recollect that Reagan feller had czars too.

You weren’t complainin’ too much then.

 
A Conservative Leech
 

Hey, I complained about Bush lots! Like, as in, when I pictured him, I was all “Aw, dammit, I came ALREADY.”

 
 

I do have to give ConTeach some props for sticking through the Sadly Naughtizing she’s getting.

Haven’t seen the good mechanical engineering prof stick his uninformed head in here yet.

 
 

Wingnuts complained about Bush.

Of course, it was “damn moron won’t invade Iran” and “we shoulda’ nuked Mecca” and “he didn’t keep all those Messican from crossin’ our designer borders” and like that. Torture, spying, war, civil rights, not so much.

 
 

the good mechanical engineering prof

What’s his nom de wingnut?

 
 

I’ve known people like Conteach. Their coworkers always have a party the day after they retire, to celebrate the clueless asshole finally being gone…

 
 

shouldn’t we try to put in place free market reforms and free choice reforms that have worked for us so well in the past?

I like you. You’re funny.

 
 

I do have to give ConTeach some props for sticking through the Sadly Naughtizing she’s getting.

Unaccustomed as s/he is to comments on his/her own blog…
“Enjoy, and please feel free to link to my blog and pass on my thoughts to others.”
One suspects that “education” is pretty much a one-way street in his/her classroom.

 
 

before taking away people’s property, and before taking away liberty and freedom of choice, before taking away privacy rights, before rationing care to drive down costs, shouldn’t we try to put in place free market reforms and free choice reforms that have worked for us so well in the past? Why do you want to destroy the system that has worked so well for all these years?

Have you considered that these preconceptions might be just as wrong as “no confirmation, and has no term limit or time length?” For example, do you have any evidence that privacy laws are weaker in France, or that the Brits can’t choose to go to private doctors, or that states which have enacted tort reform have markedly lower healthcare costs, etc.? Have you ever asked yourself why if the system has worked so well all these years it’s almost universally seen as being in need of reform?

 
 

UPDATE: By the way, you’ll note that many people wore long pants and some had jackets. The temperature topped out at 64F. Must be GLOBAL WARMING!

It’s cold in my fridge! Haha algore!

N__B said,

August 24, 2009 at 3:40
I foresee Prejean in office!

I foresee her in office-related hardcore.
WANT!

 
 

I remember the days when a Czar was really fearful because there was only one, and he would run the whole country, and it wasn’t just a fancy name for ‘Director’.

 
 

Have you ever asked yourself why

No, she/he/it never has.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

How are the number of doctors limited by law, Sport? Are you referring to the laws that require they (the doctors, Sport) reach a certain threshold of educational and experiential qualification before actuallypracticing medicine? And as far as “tort reform” goes, the only time the insurance industry cranks up this little smoke screen is when their financial holdings take a hit in the latest market bubble implosion.

As far as I am concerned, you kind of shit the bed on the credibility front with the “lifetime appointment” oopsie. You made this assertion with great fervor, with great ardor, and overwhelming certainty. The only thing missing were the facts of the matter.

Which is kind of the core of conservative belief frameworks. Believe it really, really hard, with fists clenched and face pinched, and when the facts of the matter are revealed, ignore them and just shout louder.

F-

 
 

Also, how do you personally square tort reform at a federal level with your antipathy for “the unconsitutional expansion of government”?

 
 

Are you referring to the laws that require they (the doctors, Sport) reach a certain threshold of educational and experiential qualification before actuallypracticing medicine?

Quite possibly. After I referred to Samuel J. Katzenjammer as “Not Joe the Not Plumber” Troofus said that licensure was theft or some similar Randian horseshit.

 
 

If we don’t have enough doctors, maybe we could, like, get more, by, like, educating them, and shit, ’cause, that little broke island of Cuba sends like a million doctors everywhere in the damn world and we’re sitting up here shoveling trillions of dollars into Wall Street investment firms in order to thank them for fucking up the entire world economy with their jagoff ‘derivatives’ bullshit scheme, and we’re going ‘OMG we may need more doctors how kin we git mor docterz’ and countries like Angola are going ‘OMG LOL so s2pid’.

 
 

I remember the days when a Czar was really fearful because there was only one, and he would run the whole country, and it wasn’t just a fancy name for ‘Director’.

Actually, in the referenced bill the term is “commissioner,” “czar” is never used.

 
 

Intelligence is theft. ConTeach is just the policeman.

 
 

Unfortunately “stupid” is neither finite, nor good.

 
 

p-trap is theft!

 
 

Speaking of bigotry and stupidity, let me recommend “District 9”. Best sci-fi since “Firefly”. Good movie in general.

 
 

Shorter ConTeach:

“Why don’t you respond to my questions rather than insult me, on this blog that is clearly designed for snark and mockery? Why won’t someone take me seriously? And who drew this peener on my face in magic marker? You guys, this isn’t fair!”

 
 

Actually, in the referenced bill the term is “commissioner,” “czar” is never used.

Can we compromise and talk about ‘Der Kommissar’?

 
The Kid from Kounty Meath
 

Conservative Creature’s posts are kind of the thinking man’s “LLLLLLLLLLLLLLL”.

 
 

From ConTeach’s post today:

Think about what is going on today, a year later, with this debate about health care, energy, spending, debt, nationalizing of businesses, etc. Listen to the rhetoric of the Democrats- when pressed, they see an evil plot around every corner. It’s the KKK, it’s fascists, it’s astroturf, it’s a plot by the insurance companies, it’s a ploy by the Republican Party, etc. Democrats are unable to face the fact that their ideas stink, that there policies hurt society, and that they are wrong, so they instead see evil everywhere in the world but in themselves.

Anyone know of any liberal that accused the Klan or fascist groups of trying to stop health care reform? And aren’t we supposed to be the fascists, according to Jonah Goldberg?

In accordance with NCLB standards, I won’t say that ConTeach is a big ball of FAIL, but rather that she “approaches expectations”. Keep trying, though; someday you may progress beyond mere butthurt.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

And I can’t help but wonder how many students ol’ ConTeach hammered because they actually thought for themselves and didn’t sing for Jeebus or denounce the Debil or just buy into whatever gibberish ConTeach was spouting that day/week/month/year. Turnabout, etc.

 
 

Exclamation points do not! Work that way

 
 

that there policies hurt society

that there spelling sux!

 
 

They’re just so shouty. Even when they write they shout.

But I think I’ve got it figured out in the form of shouty shouts and the shouters who shout them.

Liberals shout: Democracy! Whisky! Sexy!

Rightards shout: Tyranny! Sobriety! Lonely!

Sound about right?

 
Smiling Mortician
 

I won’t say that ConTeach is a big ball of FAIL, but rather that she “approaches expectations” and then failters frantically in the opposite direction before comically pratfailing into a rickety bucket of warm, lumpy fail.

Which would all be very funny were it not for . . . you know. Actual students. Won’t someone think of the children?

 
 

ConTeach. I like that.

Sounds like a private for-profit creationist education company.

A kind of Edison, Inc. for the even stupider stupids.

 
 

well, I’m sure some liberals shout Lonely! (followed closely by Whiskey!)

 
 

some of you seem to have other goals that involve personally attacking me

Whoa whoa WHOA – I didn’t start it by getting in YOUR face & telling you what a retarded baby-eater you are, did I? When your version of “hello” is as a liberal, you’re obviously really really REALLY stupid & a moral reptile to boot, don’t be getting all butthurt when you get a shot in the head as a reply. You can take that Whaaaaambulance right back to the bottom of whatever big flat rock you slithered from as far as I’m concerned. We are not here to stroke your ego OR to be “nice” to people whose logic-chip is obviously in need of servicing. Teachers who can’t use SpellCheck need to LURK MOAR & pontificate less.

Why does insurance cost so much? Do you think it is because insurance agents want to price people out of the market?

Yes. If those pepole are going to be producing negative returns, that’s exactly what they want – or do you think that their boss just LOVES to lose money? That snazzy phrase “What The Market Will Bear” actually translates as “What Human Capacity For Financial & Personal Suffering Will Endure Before It Bites My Profit-Margin” in a place some of us like to call the real world. Corporations aren’t charities & they have no conscience: if it comes down to a choice between killing you & making money or doing neither, well, say hello to Adam Smith for me.

Premiums have skyrocketed in the past year for one simple reason: the insurers have Americans over a barrel & they know it – with no public option as an alternative, they can keep putting the screws to their customers indefinitely because unlike getting a new clutch or buying a ChiaPet at the mall, dealing with renal failure or getting pins in your knee isn’t exactly what I’d call a matter of minor inconvenience or personal taste. You do it ASAP or you suffer (or die).

Before changing our system to Canada’s, and before taking away people’s property, and before taking away liberty and freedom of choice, before taking away privacy rights, before rationing care to drive down costs, shouldn’t we try to put in place free market reforms and free choice reforms that have worked for us so well in the past? Why do you want to destroy the system that has worked so well for all these years?

You’re not changing your system to Canada’s (& more’s the pity – it works like a dream compared to either your current system or the bipartisanship-friendly hodgepodge that you’re about to get), I have no Earthly clue where you get “taking people’s property away” but I suspect you pulled it from the colon of Beck or Limbaugh or some other mythomaniacal fuckwit, ditto “taking away privacy rights” … as for choices, Canadians have more “free choice” right now than you do: a Canadian can go to a private clinic any time if they want to & have the spondulix to pay for it – but you can’t pay fifty bucks a month & get unbilled medical care on demand.

Sorry to pop your bubble, but you have private-sector-controlled rationing already (not to mention real Death Panels) c/o the Magical Free Market that is now making health-care the #1 cause of bankruptcy in America.

Yeah, who’d be such a meanie as to destroy “the system that has worked so well for all these years” for repo crews, pawnshops & loansharks?

 
 

A Conservative Teacher said,

August 24, 2009 at 3:17

OK, who’s spoofing Conteach? Cuz she couldn’t REALLY have written this, it’s too funny.

C’mon, guys. Someone fess up.

 
 

OK, who’s spoofing Conteach?

Check the blog…

“As a public school teacher, every day I battle to advance the principles of liberty and freedom. This is my story.”

…no spoofing necessary [recalls grade 1 teacher – shivers]

 
 

“well, I’m sure some liberals shout Lonely! (followed closely by Whiskey!)”

Yeah, but at least we’re trying.

Got any kids, friend’s kids or relative’s kids being forced into Purity Pledges, Daddy/Daughter Balls or the Silver Ring Thing?

Me neither…

 
 

A Conservative Teacher said,
August 23, 2009 at 21:41

I want to give you more power over your lives- I want to empower you to be all that you can be.

A Conservative Teacher said,
August 24, 2009 at 3:17

While some of you seem to have other goals that involve personally attacking me, my goal is to help our whole society be better.

Y’know, for a “Conservative”, you sound a whole lot like a do-gooder LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIBERAL to me.

The saddest thing to me about you all is that you believe in Obama, whereas you don’t believe in me and you.

Well, you’re half right there.

 
 

…my goal is to help our whole society be better
cure all known diseases, learn to play the flute, and build box-girder bridges!!!

 
 

cure all known diseases, learn to play the flute, and build box-girder bridges!!!

Fuck box girders. Lenticular trusses, man, that’s what the hep cats were building in 1885.

 
 

Liberals shout: Democracy! Whisky! Sexy!

Rightards shout: Tyranny! Sobriety! Lonely!

Father Jack shout: Feck! Arse! Girls!

 
 

Yeah, because I feel more empowereder whenever I have to pay a shitload for private insurance that might just drop my ass whenever I need it and which ove half of small businesses just say, fuck it, and can’t afford it. God, man, if only I could pay more and be more vulnerable to insurance companies fucking me and my family over, then, hell, I’d feel so god-damned empowered I could hardly contain myself in one mere body.

 
 

Conservatards shout everything. In the same voice normal people reserve for when the sky literally is falling.

 
 

Repeating myself because no-one laughed the first time:
Gorbachev sings Tractors: Turnip! Buttocks!

 
 

Lonely! Turnips! Buttocks! (Whiskey!)

 
 

near a major city in Michigan

Wait. There’s a major city in Michigan?

I didn’t know that our Health Choices commissioner would only rule for 6 years and needs confirmation by the Senate

And yet you had no problem whatsoever freaking out that Teh Librul Preznit would appoint one for life without any check or balance while telling others to read the bill.

Yes, you couldn’t possibly be equally as misinformed about your other assertions. Now could you?

Also, since when do commissioners “rule”?

Why does insurance cost so much?

P-R-O-F-I-T

A solid 30%+ of all premiums currently go not to care, but into the company coffers. That’s also just the figure folks will cop to. Graft and kickbacks will be on top of that. Contrast that with the ~3% overhead cost for the administration of Medicare, and a good part of the answer becomes clear.

free market reforms and free choice reforms that have worked for us so well in the past

Indeed. Why, perhaps here in California we could deregulate the power industry and let the market provide its efficiencies. What could possibly go wrong?

What’s that you say? Enron? Never heard of ’em.

I know! Let’s weaken oversight of the financial services industry until it basically doesn’t exist. All those smart, free-market types will surely act in the long term interest of the business and not just try to make off with a quick buck and stick the country with the bill, virtually destroying the economy, or anything, right?

Why do you want to destroy the system that has worked so well for all these years?

Oooh! Oooh! I know this one!

Because. It. Doesn’t. Fucking. Work. Anymore.

It has been taken over by criminals. Some of whom are the very folks helping to organize your rallies. Quelle surprise!

…..

All this is academic, though. What it really comes down to is that ConTeach and ilk see the government as an enemy to be destroyed at all costs. Of course, in a society that has a government “of the people, by the people and for the people” that must mean that the people are the enemy, which is what this is really all about.

 
 

erm.. excuse me… did you notice that the sky is falling? (didn’t mean to disturb you….)

 
 

Smut Clyde,
Oh, I laughed.

 
The Kid from Kounty Meath
 

Bull Moosers shout “A man! A plan! A canal! Panama!”

 
 

!amanaP !lanac A !nalp A !nam A

…llama llama, etc.

 
 

They have female postmen now.

OH MY FUCKING GOD THE MAN WHO DELIVERED THE MAIL WAS A LADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
/sky is falling voice

When you think about it like that, it’s really not surprising that something as scary as a brown man in a white house gets them throwing the entire 20th century of Europe at the wall.

 
 

..more from ConTeach:

Students will be taught that they should deny their own needs because they are bad people and their bodies are bad and their world is bad (liberal view of the world), and by doing this they will make the future world a heaven on earth for all of those who follow them.

…who will, presumably, be less bad. QED

(remember..”this is my story”!!)

 
 

You didn’t tell it write, Herr Doktor.
~

 
 

oh, the farther I go, the stranger it gets:

This is Michigan. Our state is considering giving up our historic lighthouses to PETA to turn into Fish Empathy Re-Education Centers.

…this may develop into something rational, but I prefer to savor it as it stands.

 
 

Listen to the rhetoric of the Democrats- when pressed, they see an evil plot around every corner. It’s the KKK, it’s fascists, it’s astroturf, it’s a plot by the insurance companies, it’s a ploy by the Republican Party, etc.

Agreed, we should stop sugar-coating it and just call you what you really are: a bunch of fucking morons who jump at each and every chance to fuck yourselves over in service of the Man.

 
 

Well, if we don’t re-educate the fish, who will?

 
 

…and more

The student may have some demented conservative teacher who has been preaching things like self-responsibility and discipline, and then when they go into the safe liberal teachers classroom, they act out their frustrations with the conservative teacher by hitting other students or talking back to the liberal teacher.

now, who ever heard of a demented conservative teacher – I ask you!

 
 

…but then it gets serious

Once I heard a teacher say that the reason why Ron did so poorly on tests is because he was from a Christian family and because of this wasn’t able to reason well. He didn’t do well in biology class because he must have been rejecting biology because it wasn’t in the bible, she would laugh, and the others would laugh too. Oh, how much fun it is for liberal teachers to mock Christians behind their backs- those silly believers!

…yes, silly believers rejecting biology because it isn’t in the bible, And sad, silly Ron…

Can’t read no more – ConTeach is really CantTeach.

 
 

“Gorbachev sings Tractors: Turnip! Buttocks!”

Just remembered where I’d heard that.

For all you youngsters out there, go out and read you some Bloom County.

All you have to do is change the names and it’s describing the exact same bullshit taking place right now. Brilliant stuff.

 
 

Apparently, A ConservativeLeecher doesn’t think some people’s property deserves protection. That would be the some 750,000 who go into bankruptcy each year because they got sick and either weren’t insured because no one will insure them, or because the insurer decided it would be more profitable to defraud them and refuse payment for their treatment.

It seems that the only property that deserves protection would be the value of stock held by the health insurance companies’ shareholders. People who lose their homes in service of adding a few pennies to the shareholders’ dividends shouldn’t bitch – it’s a small price to pay to show your undying love and fealty to your owners.

 
 

Students will be taught that they should deny their own needs because they are bad people and their bodies are bad and their world is bad (liberal view of the world)), and by doing this they will make the future world a heaven on earth for all of those who follow them
Damn liberals, w/ their abstinence only sex-ed and premillenialist rapture fantasies! Also! Wait, what?

 
 

ConTeach: “This is Michigan. Our state is considering giving up our historic lighthouses to PETA to turn into Fish Empathy Re-Education Centers.”

That would be pretty stupid, all right.

My local Fish Empathy Re-Education Center, or FEREC, has been a shocking failure.

The much-trumpeted Catch And Release Re-Education Program, or CARREP, has resulted in zero decline in the local fish harvest and the Glebe Fish Market continues to do a brisk pace in the three fishes specifically targeted by the CARREP: tuna, barramundi and salmon.

I think the facts are in here, and we can all agree that the very idea of a FEREC is truly preposterous, and that one would have to be clinically insane to even conceive of such a thing, let alone use an historic lighthouse for the purpose.

Right, ConTeach?

 
 

Best Sadly,No! thread evar!!!!!

 
 

Y’know, I don’t care what kind of lighthouse re-education camp you send them to. You’re never going to teach those fish any empathy. Those motherfuckers are cold-blooded.

 
 

For the record, I would like to state that I am objectively pro-Fish Empathy.

 
 

Great post and comments, everybody. Thanks for the laughs.

While others have done a really great job slamming our most recent Exhibit A of What’s Wrong with American Public Education, I do have to wonder: how many bright, promising, hard-working Leaders O’Tomorrow now have bad grades on their transcripts, just because they can research, comprehend, reason, and compose better than their self-appointed culture warrior, A Conservative Teacherbagger?

Once I heard a teacher say that the reason why Ron did so poorly on tests is because he was from a Christian family and because of this wasn’t able to reason well.

Most people I know would be very happy to have Richard Dawkins as a teacher at their schools, yes.

 
 

And speaking of lighthouses, I think someone needs to eat a bag of these.

 
 

Actually, in the referenced bill the term is “commissioner,” “czar” is never used.

Anyone want to take bets that A Conservatroll Teabagger thinks “czar” is a funky contraction of “commissioner”?

 
 

Jesus Harpoon Christ with a blocked colon.

Via the Great Orange Satan, required reading.

Medicare stopped real “death panels” in the late 60s – early 70s.

 
 

Of course.

Now they show up.

LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

 
 

For the record, I would like to state that I am objectively pro-Fish Empathy.
There’s a joke to be had here, about how you tell whether an eel is experiencing amore, but the exact details elude me.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

Dragged this out of Harper’s Index:

Percentage change since 2002 in premiums paid to large US Health insurance companies:+87%

Percentage change in profits of the top ten U.S. health insurers:+428%

Chances that an American bankrupted by medical bills has health insurance: 7 in 10

ConTeach: These figures (also known as “facts”) should serve as a trailhead to the path that answers the question, “Why is our health care system failing?”

Oh, and Go, Fish!

 
 

about how you tell whether an eel is experiencing amore

[raises hand, gestures wildly] OOOOH teacher, I know this one![/called on, lowers hand]

The eel goes turigid.

 
 

@A Conservative Teacher

shouldn’t we try to put in place free market reforms and free choice reforms that have worked for us so well in the past?

Your free market had its chance. The result is premiums growing faster than inflation, co-pays, out-of-pocket, profit fees, in-network and out-of-network (which limit choice by the way), denial of claims, recission, pre-existing conditions, and generally a shitty insurance company standing in between me and my doctor and making all sorts of intrusive decisions regarding my healthcare. This is what proponents of healthcare reform would like to see end, and so far YOUR GODDAMNED FREE MARKET HAS HAD ITS CHANCE AND HASN’T COME THROUGH WITH THE GOODS.

Therefore SHUT UP and get out of the way, it’s time to do it OUR WAY.

 
Barnes and Barnes
 

Ask a fish head anything you want to
they won’t answer they can’t talk.

 
 

Now the shitbag liars’ club are trying to make up a bunch of shit about how Obama’s VA is telling veterans to die by suggesting they get or purchase a book, any book, discussing end of life planning. Never mind that the main book the FUXNOOZ douchebags are ranting about, VA asst dir Duckworth keeps repeating was signed under the Bush Jr. director in 2007. Over and over and over and over.

But no, these retards are all, BUT VHA DEATH BOOK DEATH BOOK DEATH BOOK.

Needless to say, it’s just another one of these guidebooks telling patients to please think about a living will and shit.

But no, no it’s not, OMG IT’S A DEATH BOOK.

 
 

Conservatives have no credibility. No, NOW that someone is actually–GASP!–trying to make sure that people don’t die/go bankrupt due to an unforseen or exsisting illness–suddenly everyone’s FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMS are at stake. But when we were torturing detainees, and wiretapping military families, creating “free speech zones” at political events, kicking out folks for wearing t-shirts, refusing to show pictures of our fallen soldiers and lying people into war, everything was hunkyfuckingdory. I mean, the values and priorities of these morons boggle my mind.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

Therefore SHUT UP and get out of the way, it’s time to do it OUR WAY.

Yes, please, as the Slippy said. WE won the election, along with a majority of our fellow residents. You and yours had your chance and you screwed the pooch. You LOST said election. Now we try a new idea. It’s called learning. As in, learning from past mistakes. Claro?

 
 

Can we compromise and talk about ‘Der Kommissar’?

DON’T TURN AROUND!

While many of you still prefer insults and mocking instead of real talking

YOUR VERY FIRST POST began with insult and condescension, and every post since has continued in the same vein: You are either unintelligent or disingeneous … morally and intellectually bankrupt

And on the blog post copied here, “Listen to the rhetoric of the Democrats- when pressed, they see an evil plot around every corner. It’s the KKK, it’s fascists, it’s astroturf, it’s a plot by the insurance companies, it’s a ploy by the Republican Party, etc.”

Ooh, people seeing nefarious PLOTS! Like, oh I don’t know…unconsitutional expansion of government, and that is the same thing (or pretty darn near it) to government control of health care, government control of GM, and government control of energy companies.

You’ve attacked and called names, appealed to emotion, dragged red herrings hither and yon, and jumped to conclusions unwarranted even by your easily falsifiable evidence, all while bemoaning our poor logic and lack of research. Teacher, teach thyself.

 
 

Just like the sun is so bright you shouldn’t look directly at it, the anti-HCR is so dumb you should think directly at it or you’ll go stupid. Nevertheless, I find myself considering the fool’s question: which of these folks believes this stuff and which of them are only saying it to confuse others?

Then I get to the point vacuumslayer is at. I think truth to these people works differently. They are flexible enough to believe things that deep down they know to be false. They aren’t reality-based people, and that’s what makes them so dangerous in the complex world we live in.

 
 

dragged red herrings hither and yon,

I know who Hitler is, but who is Yon?

 
 

Someone I know knows someone who traded in a Canyonero in the Cash For Clunkers program and they made his car go in front of a “Crush Panel”. Government bureaucrats sat in judgement of his SUV and decided whether it should be crushed into stainless steel water bottles, denominated in metric liters, for yuppies to drink foreign water out of. We mourn for America’s posterity.

 
 

Actually, in the referenced bill the term is “commissioner,” “czar” is never used.
Oh, that reminds me. Whatever happened to our “War Czar”? Anyone told him things may be somewhat over in Iraq? Or are we waiting until he renditions the last Japanese WWII soldier?

 
 

This has to be a joke.

Republican county chairmen (party leaders, not county board leaders) held a meeting and prepared to recite the pledge. Oops. There was no flag in the room for them to face while reciting. What to do?

Why, call on a fellow named Gene to come to the rescue. Gene was wearing a shirt decked out in an American flag pattern. He came forward, and the group of assembled Republicans pledged allegiance to his shirt.

As one commenter said – I hope hope hope there’s SOMEONE with video of this.

 
 

No state has suffered more from moonbattery than Michigan

Poor Iowa. What’s a state that has passed a gay marriage bill and was first to recognize President Obama got to do to get a little respect around the Midwest?

 
 

He came forward, and the group of assembled Republicans pledged allegiance to his shirt.

I, for one, welcome our sartorial overlords.

 
 

the group of assembled Republicans pledged allegiance to his shirt
Well, their flag-lapel pins were at the cleaners. (Last time, they had to salute a can of Pledge furniture polish.)Gene’s lucky. In college, the Young Republicans would run my pants up a flagpole for their patriotic pleasure.

 
 

OMG IT’S A DEATH BOOK

That’s terrible! They should let the private insurance companies, which have eliminated death, take over the whole she-bang.

 
 

From the same link Pere Ubu posted above

* U.S. Rep. JOHN SHIMKUS, R-Collinsville, delivered another stirring speech at the fair.

He said Republicans have consistently said no to things. Things like bailing out Wall Street, bailing out automakers, an energy bill, health-care reform.

“Just say no,” Shimkus said. “That’s going to be our chant from now to Election Day.”

Good idea. Reinforce the notion that Republicans don’t stand for anything, they just offer knee-jerk opposition to anything coming from BARACK OBAMA.

 
 

OMG IT’S A DEATHBOOK!

I just pulled up the “deathbook” (Your Life, Your Choices) on line as well as the Five Wishes book that Towey is pushing in place of the “deathbook”. I don’t see that big a difference between the two. It appears mostly that Towey is just upset that even though he had strong connections in the Bush administration he did not get a big contract from the VA to buy HIS book.

 
 

From United States Code, Title 4, Chapter 1, Sec. 8. Respect for flag:

“(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.”

 
 

From United States Code, Title 4, Chapter 1, Sec. 8. Respect for flag:

“(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.”

Ah yes, I remember the days when the conservatives would berate my hippie friends for wearing shirts with flag designs on them. I remember kids being sent home from school for the same thing. It just goes to show, once you start tolerating such behavior that eventually even the “good” people can get confused and go astray. Those damn hippies ruined everything.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

More from CanTeach on its Bloggity Blog.

Over and over, I hear from supporters of Obamacare the following argument- right now there is no choice on what kind of health insurance I can get. The supporters of national socialized healthcare believe that there are no choices available. This argument is so incredibly wrong that it is either advanced by idiots or those who are liars. If you open a phone book or look online, there are dozens of healthcare providers in your area who would love your business.”

Where to begin? Wasn’t CanTeach just babbling about there being too Few doctors just a little while ago?

But more than that, the idea that “there are dozens of healthcare providers in your area who would love your business,” seems to overlook one litlle itty-bitty, teensy-weensy issue.

As in; How the fuck are you going to pay for your healthcare if the insurance company denies coverage?

(Branesplode)

Pardon the mess….

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

and the fucking “Few” snuck that cap in there. Seriously.

 
 

justme’s link to the Daily Kos story on the Kidney Dialysis “death panels” (ESRD – End Stage Renal Disease – was a big deal when I got into Medicare support in 1981; now I see why) illustrates a great point bought up by Jon Stewart in his eviseration of Betsy McCaughy: There ain’t no way in hell people elected every two, four, or at the most six years are going to do something that Goddamned stupid.

These Teabaggers and Deathers ain’t got the common sense God gave a grasshopper’s be-hind (as we say down here in Jeebusland)

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

Actually, Can’Teach says all us Obamacare supporters choose not to pay for health care ’cause we rather have fancy wheels and big houses. No, really.

The supporters of Obamacare should be saying that there are no healthcare insurance plans that they can afford. That argument is even more interesting- it would be worthwhile to ask people who make this argument what sort of car they drive, how often they go on vacation, where they eat out to dinner at, and how big their house is. If they are poor, they are already on some form of government-provided healthcare- rather, many of the people who support Obamacare have money, they just choose not to spend it on healthcare.

There’s more over there, like the idea that somehow private sector healthcare has less overhead and such.

Anyhoo, new threedle?

Puh-lease?

 
 

You can practically SEE Canada from Birmingham, Michigan. How can NotTeach say this shit when a real, live example of functioning, affordable single-payer universal healthcare is only 15 MILES AWAY?

 
 

Well, nice talk from someone whose health insurance benefits were gained for her by her union’s collective bargaining efforts.

 
 

many of the people who support Obamacare have money, they just choose not to spend it on healthcare

Ah, yes, ’cause they’re spending it on bling and spinners for their cars and all that. No, Conteach isn’t a racist, nope.

 
 

The supporters of Obamacare should be saying that there are no healthcare insurance plans that they can afford. That argument is even more interesting- it would be worthwhile to ask people who make this argument what sort of car they drive,

My GF, who is uninsured, drives a 1990’s era Dodge pickup. The air conditioning is broken, the driver’s side rearview mirror is busted off, the car hasn’t had an oil change in who knows how long, and we cross our fingers everytime she starts it.

Myself, I drive a 10-year-old Saturn Sl2. Sometimes you have to wiggle the key to get it to start. And the A/C only runs when the car is moving.

BTW the A/C thing is important when you live in the Ohio River Valley. It’s hot, and when it rains it’s hot and you have to keep your windows rolled up. For an asthmatic, this can be very uncomfortable.

In 2 more months she can go on my insurance. Until then, we pay full price for medications and hope she doesn’t get sick.

So, Can’t Teach, you can just shove that argument up your stupid arrogant ass. Sideways. also.

 
Shorter ConTeach
 

I got mine. Rest of ya can screw off.

 
 

it would be worthwhile to ask people who make this argument what sort of car they drive, how often they go on vacation, where they eat out to dinner at, and how big their house is.

That’s a strawman- YOU made that argument, saying they SHOULD make it, meaning they don’t. But even so, no, it wouldn’t be worthwhile, not even if you know how they obtained the car, house, etc. Why not ask them how many kids they have, and why they didn’t get abortions so they didn’t have so many hungry mouths to feed? Red herrings.

 
 

Sorry, peeps, I’m in A Mood.

 
 

But no, no it’s not, OMG IT’S A DEATH BOOK.

I thought we’d already updated to DEATH VIDEOTAPES in The Ring?

Where’s my DEATH DVD?

 
Smiling Mortician
 

Over and over, I hear from supporters of Obamacare the following argument- right now there is no choice on what kind of health insurance I can get. The supporters of national socialized healthcare believe that there are no choices available. This argument is so incredibly wrong that it is either advanced by idiots or those who are liars. If you open a phone book or look online, there are dozens of healthcare providers in your area who would love your business.”

Idiot teacher doesn’t understand that health insurers aren’t health care providers. Idiot teacher is an idiot.

 
 

That’s a strawman- YOU made that argument, saying they SHOULD make it, meaning they don’t.

Thanks for going there ’cause I set out in that direction and got all lost.

We’re being denounced for, in Conteach’s feverish imagination, being hypocrites to an argument that we didn’t even make… and the teabaggers WONDER why we don’t take them seriously.

Yeesh.

 
 

I thought we’d already updated to DEATH VIDEOTAPES in The Ring?

Where’s my DEATH DVD?

Anyone know where I can download a DEATH MP3 to use on my DEATH iPOD?

 
 

Sorry, peeps, I’m in A Mood.

Ain’t no thing. There is serious asshattery afoot, and for no other reason than sniffing Reagan’s jockstrap.

Spite is a helluva way to determine one’s political activities, but that’s exactly what these cruel bastards are doing. And most of them would probably identify as Christians. Unfortunately they’re the “Get Into Heaven Free card” Christians, not the “love your neighbor as yourself” Christians.

 
Smiling Mortician
 

where they eat out to dinner at,

We regret to inform you that you have now reached the lifetime cap on extraneous prepositions. Any further preposition use will not be covered.

 
 

OMG IT’S A DEATH BOOK

Boy, that Google will try anything to sell ad space, but Facebook for the Dead???

 
 

In college, the Young Republicans would run my pants up a flagpole for their patriotic pleasure.

Is that a flagpole in your pants, or are you happy to see us?

 
 

Zombbook. zrm is all over it.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

I’m in a mood, too. Rock-hard stupid does it to me.

 
 

Anyone know where I can download a DEATH MP3 to use on my DEATH iPOD?
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The great thing about the deathbook controversy is that the Taxed Enough Already crowd is really just advocating spending millions of taxpayer dollars to replace one deathbook, that’s already paid for, with another. Even rocks aren’t that stupid.

 
 

You have nothing to apologize for, tig. IMO, people like ConJob are the hardest people to deal with in this whole debate. Its hard not to go all fist-helicopter on people whose entire way of life depend on the direct material and social benefits of Liberal culture who then go on to rant incessantly about Teh Evil Librulz.

My Dad went to one of the Teabagger protests in Bahstun. He got a wee defensive when I laughed at him and started in to some BS Rush-fueled rant about BIG GUBBMIT. I let him spin on and then asked one question: “So, let me get this straight: you, an employee with a federal government contractor, took public transportation down to the public park to protest “creeping Socialism”? He’s a smart dude but you could almost hear the belt slipping off the wheel.

 
 

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Cool, maybe there’s a DEATH BITTORRENT I can use.

 
 

Cool, maybe there’s a DEATH BITTORRENT I can use.

Be sure and check the DEATH HASH after downloading to make sure the contents are 100% DEATH.

 
 

I’m a bit old fashioned, I’m still using the death slide rule. At least that’s a step up from my brother’s death abacus.

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

OMFG, this is old and OT and all, but still…..lulz:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/sterilizing_imperfection.html

 
 

Will a government sterilization program reduce the the chances of my encountering My Little Pony? If so, count me in!

 
 

I’m a bit old fashioned, I’m still using the death slide rule. At least that’s a step up from my brother’s death abacus.

Ah, Old Deathmath. That’s not the we learned it in school. We had New Deathmath.

 
 

I was thinking of getting a vasectomy, will a government sterilization program take care of that? Also, if they’re going to sterilize all the women anyway is it still nescessary for me to go through the process?

 
 

Who’s up for a PARTY OF DEATH?

 
 

Also, if everyone is sterilized how can we have forced abortions? This wingnuttery is too darn confusing. Rush? Ann? Are you out there? (Yes, way out there) Somebody help me.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

Actually, not really OT at all. It’s right there with ConTeach on the stupidity spectrum (or “stupspec” for all you geeky types). Actually, The Tart is demanding such a procedure, or one that will have the same effect. Where do I go and sign up for this fine gummint program?

 
 

I must say I dislike the idea of being boiled in a big pot.

I am larger than most pots I see.

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

I’d prefer a PARTY OF CAKE, please.

 
 

Also, if everyone is sterilized how can we have forced abortions?
My Betty Crocker cookbook says: Bring your precious bodily fluids to a full boil.

 
 

I particularly like how American Thinker (false advertising) pulls the whole Star Trek thing out of his American Thinking ass.

“Wah, it’s JEST like that one there epee-sode o’ STAHHH TRAACK where the Nomad’s goin’ around sterilizing everything! Nomad must’a been a LIBERAL! hurr hurr hur blurp blurp”

yes, and the teabaggers are like those big dumb ape-men who throw rocks and spears at the crew when the Galileo-7 crash-landed. See? See? HIP POP CULTURE REFERENCE POWERS ACTIVATE!!!

 
 

I believe the American Wanker crowd would all be cheering for NOMAD in that episode. After all, the Star Trek society is a totally socialst one. NOMAD was the last hope of the free market.

 
 

I like his clever new word game MadCons (like MadLibs but fair and balanced!): Substitute “sterilization” for “policy initiative”! “Nomad” for “Obama”! Ha, ha!
Watch Star Trek and fill in Dr. McCoy‘s lines!
“Spock! Are you out of your Vulcan Liberal mind?!”
“He’s dead death panel, Jim!”

 
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days
 

“Set phasers to ‘sterilize!'”

 
 

Also, if everyone is sterilized how can we have forced abortions?

They’ll implant a fetus just so they can abort it. Unless it has the Gay Gene.

 
 

Watch Star Trek and fill in Dr. McCoy’s lines!

“What do you think about reform, Bones?”
“Dammit, Jim, I’m a doctor, not a doc…to…

Um.

Let’s just skip it, huh, old buddy?”

 
 

or maybe that should have been “I’m a DOCTOR, not a health care expert!”

yeesh. But I’ve seen doctors and health-care workers that are just as ill-informed as the average teabagger, so there’s that.

 
Boneless Meatloaf
 

Heh. How about the episode on TEH HITLER PLANET! So confoozin, who ta root for?!

 
 

Kid, I hope that’s tartar sauce.

 
 

Your daily totally SFW PENIS.

 
 

Kid, I hope that’s tartar sauce.

Didn’t the Reagan Administration classify spooge as a vegetable?

 
 

…my goal is to help our whole society be better
cure all known diseases, learn to play the flute, and build box-girder bridges!!!

ConTeach’s theme song:

 
Marion in Savannah
 

Bless the Lunch Lady for bringing a ray of sanity…

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

PeeJ, that is BRILLIANT!

Thank FSM, WP seems to be working!

 
 

Also, if everyone is sterilized how can we have forced abortions?

Mandatory test tube babies.

 
 

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Feck. Rickrolled again.

 
 

Anyone know of any liberal that accused the Klan or fascist groups of trying to stop health care reform?

 
 

Anyone know of any liberal that accused the Klan or fascist groups of trying to stop health care reform?

Well, someone pointed out that the yellow “Don’t Tread on Me” flag had long since been co-opted by psuedofascist racial separatist groups, but that’s about all I can think of.

 
 

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