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Welp, here we go again with more right-wing violence. And I’m not doing a great job at being funny right now, honestly, so here’s Free Republic to do a simultaneously better and worse job of it, giving us perspective on the matter, as they are often so good at doing.

Obama is going to take advantage of this murder to sieze even more control over our society.

I would not even put it past them to commit this murder themselves, as an excuse to sieze power. Reichstag Fire, and all that…

20 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:19:31 PM by gridlock (L’Etat, c’est Barack…)

 

Great minds think alike. 😉

21 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:20:00 PM by IMissPresidentReagan (What, were all the Judges who had a 100% rate of being overturned by the Supreme Court already taken)

 

Great minds think alike. 😉

22 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:20:02 PM by IMissPresidentReagan (What, were all the Judges who had a 100% rate of being overturned by the Supreme Court already taken)

 

Great minds think alike. 😉

23 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:20:03 PM by IMissPresidentReagan (What, were all the Judges who had a 100% rate of being overturned by the Supreme Court already taken)

Apparently they do, because literally a minute ago, I also posted that message three times.

He had the goods on Kathleen Sebelius, and that means she was blackmailable. I wonder if they will catch the killer on this one?!

38 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 12:46:16 PM by freeplancer

 

This will do for Obama the same thing that Timothy McVeigh did for Clinton, marginalize his opponents as extremists in the public mind and shut down the developing scrutiny.

41 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:26:16 PM by gusopol3

Now there’s a point. After the Oklahoma City bombing, in 1995, nobody dared investigate or impeach Bill Clinton for all those murders and rapes, not to mention the cocaine trafficking and interstate money laundering, forcing the impeachment proceedings to be hung from a tangle of alleged petty financial improprieties and consensual sexual relationships.

Oooh, and now this murder means that Obama is going to get away with all those murders!

This is the worst setback for our side since that murderous assassin Rudolph.

It was since (and one, therefore, could argue, in part, because of) Rudolph, America has swung to majority pro-life for the first time in 15 years.

90 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:51:10 PM by Cedric

‘Since and. . .therefore. . .because of’ is one of those eternalities of human folly that you occasionally run across that make life worth plodding through.

Well, at least the perp didn’t rip his arms and legs off and then suck his brains out.

The best pot so far in this thread!!!

101 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:59:27 PM by Turret Gunner A20

Unfortunately, the bong was just getting warmed up.

Could be a false flag op. Regardless, it WILL be used against us by the dark side. Prepare for the worst.

131 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:21:36 PM by Noumenon (As long as I have a rifle, I STILL have a vote…)

 

Whoever murdered this guy has also done immeasurable harm to the pro-life movement by turning a despicable man into a martyr for the pro-abortion crowd.

Yes he did. It is important to teach Christian principles and try to change peoples’ hearts so that the moral foundation will return. Then, when Godly people are in control, the law enforcement authorities will be directed to detain and imprison those who support abortion, not those who oppose it. Governments are in place because God wants them there — everyone must read the Bible and understand that principle. It is unchangeable.

156 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:54:23 PM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don’t have to do it for you.)

 

MSNBC has included in their story a table of “Abortion related Violence”, that AP has, and I have copied and pasted below:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31029377/

Abortion-related violence

Following is a list of other recent cases of abortion-related violence:
April 2007: Authorities say Paul Ross Evans placed a homemade bomb in the parking lot of the Austin Women’s Health Center in Texas. A bomb squad disposes of the device, which contained two pounds of nails. There are no injuries.

Oct. 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian is fatally shot in his home in a suburb of Buffalo, N.Y. Militant abortion opponent James Kopp is convicted of the murder in 2003 and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.
Jan. 29, 1998: A bomb explodes just outside a Birmingham, Ala., abortion clinic, killing a police officer and wounding several others. Eric Rudolph later pleads guilty to that incident and the deadly bombing at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta. He justifies the Alabama bombing in an essay from prison, writing that Jesus would condone “militant action in defense of the innocent.”
Jan. 16, 1997: Two bomb blasts an hour apart rock an Atlanta building containing an abortion clinic. Seven people are injured. Rudolph is charged by federal authorities in October 1998.
Dec. 30, 1994: John Salvi opens fire with a rifle inside two Boston-area abortion clinics, killing two receptionists and wounding five others. Sentenced to life without parole, he kills himself in prison in 1996.

Nov. 8, 1994: Dr. Garson Romalis, who performs abortions in Vancouver, Canada, is shot in the leg while eating breakfast at home.
July 29, 1994: Dr. John Bayard Britton and his volunteer escort, James H. Barrett, are slain outside a Pensacola, Fla., abortion clinic. Barrett’s wife, June, is wounded in the attack. Paul J. Hill, 40, a former minister and anti-abortion activist, is later convicted of murder and sentenced to death.
Aug. 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller is shot in the arms as he drives out of parking lot at his Wichita, Kan., clinic. Rachelle “Shelley” Shannon is later convicted and sentenced to 11 years in prison.
March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn is shot to death outside Pensacola, Fla., clinic, becoming the first U.S. doctor killed during an anti-abortion demonstration. Michael Griffin is convicted and serving a life sentence.

The “pro-life” activists are violent, a threat, terrorists, etc. meme starts.

193 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 5:35:46 PM by IMissPresidentReagan (What, were all the Judges who had a 100% rate of being overturned by the Supreme Court already taken)

 

Oddly enough, I’ve long speculated that the heavy-handed tactics the government has used against groups like Operation Rescue are a very big reason why some people have resorted to violence against abortionists.

As an astute observer pointed out some years ago (it may have been after the Slepian killing in Buffalo, NY), attacks on abortionists were almost non-existent until the government began forcibly removing peaceful demonstrators from public areas outside the offices and homes of abortionists.

189 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 4:45:30 PM by Alberta’s Child (I’m out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)

 

To invoke a favorite meme of the left: I question the timing.This looks like the opening for an anti-Christian Kristallnacht.Think of Janet ‘conservatives are enemies of the state’ Napolitano’s DHS report.

122 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:11:29 PM by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)

 

This brings me to another thought. We need to use this event against them.

We need to start accusing Napolitano and Obama of a hidden conspiracy with the gunman of attempting to give pro-lifers a bad name by killing abortionist Tiller.

These people have no problem twisting reality to benefit their agenda, I don’t see why we shouldn’t do it to them.

230 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:20:03 PM by prismsinc (A.K.A. “The Terminator”!)

 

It is very possible this is Obamacide, but it will be tied to a “right-wing extremist” to cover the tracks.

247 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:22:51 PM by big’ol_freeper ([Advocate for] Mitt Romney[?], God help you, but you’re on the wrong website ~ Jim Robinson)

 

Or maybe Tiller killed the wrong baby?

You never know.

However, even if the shooter turns out to be a person with a history in a major prolife organization (doubtful) I would STILL remind everyone:

The left does not apologize for;

William Ayers
Saul Alinsky
Jeremiah Wright
The Weather Underground
The Black Panthers
The Rev. Jessie Jackson
The Rev. Al Sharpton
The Unabomber

Do NOT tell me that none of these people were “vigilantes” who “committed murder” -—

Blood is on the hands of ALL of the above.

I do not defend this action, I do not support the shooting of George Tiller.

However, I understand it, I predicted it, and it is utterly logical as an outcome -— for a society that will not allow such monsters as Tiller to be restrained, BY THE LAW, to be dealt with outside the law, by the impatient or the unbalanced.

The difference between the left and the right, when it comes to the use of violence, is profound.

The Left has, through out history, killed, kidnapped, bombed and shot innocents who were only vaguely connected to the “White Establishment” or the “Military Industrial Complex” etc.

The left, of course, is protected by the MSM.

Still, we can STOP apologizing for the predictable and the inevitable, when someone on “our side” does something wrong!(I DO NOT CLAIM THE SHOOTER, but the left will lump him or her with me)

When has the left ever suffered from THEIR kooks?

When has the left ever apologized for violent behavior from the Left?

259 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:24:59 PM by Kansas58

Um, we’re sorry for… Uh, wait, Al Sharpton? the Unabomber?

Someone will “ suicided” and framed, as usual

277 posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:28:40 PM by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)

Brainy go splat.

 

Comments: 91

 
 
 

As a resident of The Unabomber’s childhood home town I take full responsibility for making him in to the seething leftie he is. Just because I moved here decades after he left doesn’t free me of my obligation to be responsible for his actions.

Who did Al Sharpton kill? Also.

 
 

The left will never apologize for Harry Belafonte.

However, I understand it, I predicted it, and it is utterly logical as an outcome -— for a society that will not allow such monsters as Tiller to be restrained, BY THE LAW, to be dealt with outside the law, by the impatient or the unbalanced . . . Still, we can STOP apologizing for the predictable and the inevitable, when someone on “our side” does something wrong!(I DO NOT CLAIM THE SHOOTER, but the left will lump him or her with me)

So you don’t side with the shooter but what he did is an inevitable and just consequence of the law not killing Tiller for doing a job you don’t like. Neat trick.

For the record, late-term abortion mainly legally involves cases like Baby K, in which either the fetus can only loosely be called alive or its life is almost certain to end quickly and consist primarily of inchoate agony. It had three practicioners in the US (two, now), and Tiller has been repeatedly targeted by not just Operation Rescue but by various anti-choice militants, and quite a few opportunist non-militants who feel that the willingness of Randall’s terrorists to try and murder him is outweighed by how useful he is to het up moderates over something insignificant.

If the murder was connected to Operation Rescue (and their members have shot at him before, along with various less lethal but still seriously felonious forms of harassment), it will probably go unremarked that this follows their preemptive invasion of Notre Dame over Obama by just a few weeks, during which they were treated as a respectable pressure group instead of a terrorist organization responsible for multiple bombings and murders.

His murderer was a survivalist wackjob, and no doubt when that comes out he’ll go from a false-flag operant to a martyr of Obammunism. (You know, like the Branch Davidians.)

The murder took place in his church. No doubt it was one of those gay-marrying abortion churches – you know, like those horrible “temples” that refuse to allow the cross or the Ten Commandments in plain English – so its civil rights and religious liberty don’t count.

I like that this is happening during the imbroglio about Sotomayor, and so soon after you have literal Nazi G. Gordon Liddy characterizing a Puerto Rican judge as an illegal immigrant. The base is fucking thrilled at the opportunity to threaten to murder whores and demand that all Popish elitists be deported. The Party, not so much – and pretty soon anyone who actually has an elected office to lose (unlike cranks like Gingrich, Limbaugh, and Rove, whose livelihood depends on using their connections to pretend they have any constituency besides the lunatic fringe) is going to have to make the same choice Spector did – keep the letter or keep the state. One or the other has got to go.

 
 

Even the mob has the decency not to whack you in church.

 
 

Oh, and for anyone who missed it, Papa Bear, class act he is, has been basically calling for Tiller’s death for a long time. Funny how being a part of a political system which depends on a constant stream of crises, threats to entitlement, and ur-fascist outrage causes hilariously unforeseen outcomes, isn’t it?

 
 

20 years of eliminationist rhetoric really does have effects. I’m hoping some mainstream media outlet puts together all the right-wing violence we’ve seen just in the last 12 months so that the public can get a picture of what’s going on.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Freepers are the worst people in the entire world. If you ever wonder where the Rwandan Hutus found their militia leaders to run their genocide, it is from the same pool that populates FR.

Fuck anyone who equates them to Democratic Underground. Once again there is no moral or even tactical equivalence between left and right.

 
 

As usual, of course, we liberals will never understand the strong morals of real America. You see, God imbues all fertilized human eggs – which belong to a species with the highest rate of prenatal miscarriage and stillbirth of any mammal – with souls, and because God’s omnipotence, like his omniscience, is limited when it comes to people who remove dead tissue from women’s wombs before the organic production of hormonal triggers which cause them to expel it at great personal difficulty in a process which under the best circumstances can often lead to death or lifelong mental or physical injury, obviously the only thing any God-fearing person could do is hunt him down in his place of worship and take vengeance into their own hands by killing him.

If we read the bible literally, we wouldn’t be so judgemental about people who deliver judgement God has failed to in response to performing procedures which remove souls God made the innocent mistake of putting into human cells which will never be conscious. (Hey, it’s not like he has an ultrasound machine or anything. He’s just God, not a doctor.)

The real question is, why won’t we moonbats let go of our hatred for God and human life?

 
The Kid from Kounty Meath
 

I wonder, if someone could somehow – SOMEHOW- slip under the radar and point out that Tiller pretty much exclusively performed abortions the absence of which would lead to the horrible death of mother, child or both, one would be able to hear the imploding heads through the computer.

 
 

For my sins, I went and read more of that thread. I wonder, how is it possible to be that full of hate and violence, and yet be a pants-shitting coward, at the same time?

These people are terrified of Obama. And while, in some cases, that fear warms my heart, it also worries me that they’re just going to get more unhinged (less hinged?) and violent.

 
Ted the Slacker
 

OT -and partly because this is a goddamn depressing thread and I would rather have something to gloat about – as I am scheduled to be slacking in Londonistan next week, I applied for and got tickets to see Krugman speaking at the London School of Economics.

Assuming we will have a chance to ask questions, grateful for some Sadly No suggestions…

 
 

Cheating huh

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Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Just because I changed my ur-hell?

 
 

I wonder, if someone could somehow – SOMEHOW- slip under the radar and point out that Tiller pretty much exclusively performed abortions the absence of which would lead to the horrible death of mother, child or both, one would be able to hear the imploding heads through the computer.

I dunno, something tells me this might undermine our liberal fascist plot to use the “health” of the mother as cover to eugenics away real brainless Americans.

 
 

Derelict said,

June 1, 2009 at 13:18

20 years of eliminationist rhetoric really does have effects. I’m hoping some mainstream media outlet puts together all the right-wing violence we’ve seen just in the last 12 months so that the public can get a picture of what’s going on.

My prediction yesterday: But what about Bill Ayers, huh?!

 
 

ittdgy: I got it too. I think in my case it might be because of a blatantly fake email address; dunno about you.

I really wish there were a nonintrusive way of setting up a registration system, or maybe that WP would integrate support for captchas on submission. Anti-spambot shit pisses me off.

 
 

All I know is, this is just another sad example of Christian-on-Christian violence. When will that community learn to solve its problems by peaceful means? Honestly. I mean, I’m not prejudiced, but when I see a Christian guy coming down the street I quietly cross to the other side. It’s not bigotry but just self preservation. Plus they live like animals in those big Christian housing projects. I think it’s the culture, their music just glorifies violence all day long, song after song about dudes being nailed to crosses. It’s just not a healthy culture.

 
 

It is really tragic how right wingers are often associated with other right wingers who say the exact things they do but go shoot people. This is so unfair.

 
 

The Obama Stasi strikes again.

 
 

This looks like the opening for an anti-Christian Kristallnacht.Think of Janet ‘conservatives are enemies of the state’ Napolitano’s DHS report.

As I said yesterday, just like the anti-Christian pogrom after Waco.

Remember the anti-Christian pogrom that happened after Waco?

Me neither.

It is really tragic how right wingers are often associated with other right wingers who say the exact things they do but go shoot people. This is so unfair.

*right-click* *Copy to Note* This one’s a keeper.

 
 

WAAAH WE’RE THE REAL VICTIMS EVEN IF WE HAVEN’T BEEN VICTIMIZED YET SOMEONE CHANGE OUR DIAPERS!!

Christ, what a bunch of fucknuts.

 
 

As a front-pager at the GOS noted, if Tiller’s killer weren’t white they’d be calling him and his fellow crazies a “terror cell”.

 
 

Please please please invent a conspiracy theory that Obama dunnit. Please please please get Newt Gingrich to sign up to it.

If there is a God, I pray that he will put that idea in Newt’s head.

 
 

Free Republic comments are a cornucopia of stupidity. They’re so packed full of meaty idiot goodness, even the throwaway taglines are asinine:

(What, were all the Judges who had a 100% rate of being overturned by the Supreme Court already taken)

Heh, judges like Sam Alito?

 
 

OT -and partly because this is a goddamn depressing thread and I would rather have something to gloat about – as I am scheduled to be slacking in Londonistan next week, I applied for and got tickets to see Krugman speaking at the London School of Economics.

Assuming we will have a chance to ask questions, grateful for some Sadly No suggestions…

Ask him if he’s seen this yet.

 
 

Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato

And boyoboy, there are definitely some people over there being very enchanted with themselves.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

They just can’t bring themselves to be halfway decent human beings, even at a time like this.

Even the shitheads who stand outside clinics harassing pregnant women with pictures of abortions and foetuses look good in comparison to Freepers:

Anti-abortion groups denounced the shooting and stressed that they support only nonviolent protest.

“We are shocked at this morning’s disturbing news that Mr. Tiller was gunned down,” Troy Newman, Operation Rescue’s president, said in a statement. “Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice.

“We denounce vigilantism and the cowardly act that took place this morning.”

I know, I know, just a PR statement probably not reflective of the actual feelings of the people in the organization, but at least they can put a human mask on for 20 minutes.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Who the fuck did Jesse Jackson kill? What, did someone drop dead from the news repeating “Hymietown” back in the 80s?

 
 

Think of Janet ‘conservatives are enemies of the state’ Napolitano’s DHS report.

I thought about it. I thought “God damn, seems Janet Napolitano’s report was right on the fucking money!”

 
 

conservatives are enemies of the state

Wait – aren’t they? By their own definition?

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

attacks on abortionists were almost non-existent until the government began forcibly removing peaceful demonstrators from public areas outside the offices and homes of abortionists.

Yes, because stalking them outside their places of work and homes wasn’t an intrusive act meant to terrify the doctors.

Seems like the same kind of thought process ex-husbands use right after they murder their wives because of the restraining order on them.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

These people have no problem twisting reality to benefit their agenda, I don’t see why we shouldn’t do it to them.

This one’s a plant? Right?

No one can be that blatantly blatant about making up a Big Lie to protect themselves, right? You have to at least present the idea that you fucking *believe* the bullshit you’re saying first.

Right?

*cradles his head*

 
 

JNM: Evidently so.

conservatives are enemies of the state

Wait – aren’t they? By their own definition?

Sure. Who can forget that immortal passage in On Civil Disobedience where Thoreau broke down and spent half the essay begging the state for a plantation on Mexican land, or Gandhi’s rueful admission that he meant it before but he was really just jealous that he didn’t speak-a the English.

 
 

Seems like the same kind of thought process ex-husbands use right after they murder their wives because of the restraining order on them.

Of course it is. Alimony, the restraining order, and “rape” were invented by Obama to further his agenda of Trotskyist sabotage.

 
 

Think of Janet ‘conservatives are enemies of the state’ Napolitano’s DHS report.

Didn’t that report end up being withdrawn or something? Why are Democrats willing to be bullied by these whiners?

 
 

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: domestic terrorists are going to be a greater danger to Americans over the next decade than anything Al Qaeda is going to be able to pull off. If Obama doesn’t have the FBI focusing on them way, way more than they were during the Bush-Cheney “They’re not terrorists — they’re Bush Pioneers” era, then he’s completely fucking crazy.

 
 

And what Alec said before about Operation Rescue showing up at Notre Dame to protest Obama’s speech. That was an insane failure of security, letting known violent extremist terrorists get within shooting distance of the president.

I get the bad feeling that’s what it’s going to take to get the government to treat domestic terrorists seriously — some goddamn dittohead is going to have to be caught packing heat in the president’s vicinity.

Even then, Harry Reid won’t want to blame the GOP, ’cause it’s divisive when you point out that all the terrorists voted for straight-ticket Republican…

 
 

“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: domestic terrorists are going to be a greater danger to Americans over the next decade than anything Al Qaeda is going to be able to pull off. If Obama doesn’t have the FBI focusing on them way, way more than they were during the Bush-Cheney “They’re not terrorists — they’re Bush Pioneers” era, then he’s completely fucking crazy.”

Anyone else find Obama’s response to the latest wingnut atrocity be a little…lacking? My goodness gracious me, he might go so far as to write a stern letter if that wouldn’t be interpreted as impolite! And by the same ‘people’ who, no doubt, would like to do the same thing to him as they did to George Tiller.

Ah, but I’m too hard on Obama. Once this silly little bit of insignificant fluff regarding home grown right wing terrorism and murder has faded from everyone’s minds, he can back to doing what’s really important: Shining the shoes of Corporate CEOs with his tongue.

 
 

(What, were all the Judges who had a 100% rate of being overturned by the Supreme Court already taken)

Yes – Sotomayor’s made some 380 decisions, three of which went to the Supreme Court, two of which were overturned, so she has a 30% “success” rate – if you rule out the other 377 cases.

Alito has a shorter record as a judge, argued 2 cases at the Supremes, and had both overturned. So his record, by that yardstick, is even worse.

 
 

John D.: Have you seen Pollak’s latest cartoon?

http://www.someguywithawebsite.com/cartoons/2009/090601_hope.html

FYWP.

 
 

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: domestic terrorists are going to be a greater danger to Americans over the next decade than anything Al Qaeda is going to be able to pull off. If Obama doesn’t have the FBI focusing on them way, way more than they were during the Bush-Cheney “They’re not terrorists — they’re Bush Pioneers” era, then he’s completely fucking crazy.

I can see where you’re coming from, but it’s worth remembering that part of what got Obama elected was heavy support from businesses and the perceived complete decay of the Republicans as capable of competent administration. Outside of a few wealthy, bitter lunatics (who, unlike their Clinton-era counterparts or themselves in that era, have little hope of getting major investment for new media projects, have fewer options available to hide losses, are much less able to hide behind the corporate veil, and have to face a murderous financial climate for the media without running an expensive political vanity project), the massive media conspiracy against Obama doesn’t exist. The media is biased, sure, but nobody is shelling out billions to the face-carving equivalent of the Troopergate liars in this climate.

A good augury for the echo chamber collapsing altogether would be the dim fortunes of the Washington Times and New York Post – both journalistically worthless projects into which billionaires sink money they need for other things because they’re right-wing cunts – turning from bad to worse and one or both collapsing. By contrast, the Clinton era was the glorious zenith of Ailes, Murdoch, and all the other plutocratic jackasses who circled Clinton like vultures.

Even on universal healthcare, which pretty much herded the cats of the financial elite against teh Clenis, the insurance industry is basically alone in wanting to see Obama killed before it spreads.

Unfortunate though it is, at this point the lunatic fringe’s insane behavior is probably going to make things worse, not better, for the GOP, and hasten the formal death of the current party system.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Ah, but I’m too hard on Obama.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!

Shut the fuck up, John.

 
 

Unfortunate though it is, at this point the lunatic fringe’s insane behavior is probably going to make things worse, not better, for the GOP, and hasten the formal death of the current party system.

That’s so, but the feds still need to be paying very close attention to domestic terror. Every crazy right-winger who decides to shoot up a church may push the GOP deeper into its metaphotical grave, but it also pushes innocent people into their completely literal graves, too. I’d rather keep the Repubs around for a few more years then let Randall Terry claim any more scalps.

 
 

I’d rather keep the Repubs around for a few more years then let Randall Terry claim any more scalps.

…thAn…

 
 

Who can forget that immortal passage in On Civil Disobedience where Thoreau broke down and spent half the essay begging the state for a plantation on Mexican land

Um. Point taken.

But it’s sure as hell not the Left these days who’re calling for violent revolution and secession and it sure as hell wasn’t the Left back in the 90’s that was passing off bullshit arguments about “sovereign citizens” and publicly announcing death threats to local sherriffs, judges and Interior Dept. workers, while the Democrats willingly accepted them within their ranks.

Gosh, it’s been something like thirty years since any credible threat from the Left, and yet even with the spread of militias, secessionist teabaggers, Confederate “Good-Ol-Days” reminiscers, white supremacists, anti-gay bigots, anti-abortion bigots, survivalists wondering what to do with all that Y2K stuff, and general whackjobs, the one we’re supposed to be fretting over is… Bill Ayers. Um.

 
 

That’s so, but the feds still need to be paying very close attention to domestic terror. Every crazy right-winger who decides to shoot up a church may push the GOP deeper into its metaphotical grave, but it also pushes innocent people into their completely literal graves, too. I’d rather keep the Repubs around for a few more years then let Randall Terry claim any more scalps.

Me too, but unfortunately the choice isn’t really ours – the Bush Administration made a policy of stripping the FBI of resources, personnel, and information in favor of organizations which would operate more extensively with foreign agents, had less compunctions about torture, and were organizationally corrupt enough to accept the idea of torturing false confessions out of prisoners to fabricate casus belli (and casus foederis, in the case of openly cooking up CYA for hypothetical Israeli wars). Add that to the general tendency to ignore or encourage politically correct militants (neopentecostals, anti-choicers, Randroids), and you’ve basically got a system which is profoundly broken from the word go.

It will take decades for the FBI and the rest of our domestic intelligence infrastructure to recover from the regime of horrifying abuse and malignant neglect inflicted on it by the Pentagon hawks, and that’s without taking into account a concerted effort to turn Napolitano into Reno, open Republican Party sympathy with actual terrorists, and the heavy retention of Bush flunkies in offices capable of interfering with federal intelligence recovery.

While we might be able to prevent stuff like the Nazi dirty-bomber, I’m afraid individual assassinations of any profile lower than federal are probably going to be impossible to deal with, and I’m pessimistic about that changing in the next eight years.

 
 

The Unabomber? You mean, the same Unabomber who forced the NY Times to publish a lengthy manifesto railing against “Leftism” as a psychological disorder?

That Unabomber?

I mean, Jee’ Chroist, do they think he’s a leftist just cause he had a high IQ?

 
 

Could someone do me a favor and pour a bottle of disinfectant over this asshole:

http://twitter.com/JTlol

It would relieve a few ulcers, so I’ll see if I can get you reimbursed by my HMO.

 
 

I mean, Jee’ Chroist, do they think he’s a leftist just cause he had a high IQ?

Yes.

This has been another installment of SASQ…

 
 

Of course it is. Alimony, the restraining order, and “rape” were invented by Obama to further his agenda of Trotskyist sabotage.

Community property is theft.

Oh wait. That’s exactly how Dr. Helen’s commenters see it, right? So not really a parody after all. Ok then, child support is theft. Having to pay my share for music lessons, after school programs, summer camp is theft. Am I still doing it wrong?

 
 

Hunter at the Great Orange Satan found some postings that show the suspect was a member of Operation Rescue. The line for kicking Randall Terryrist Mastermind’s balls into the stratosphere forms behind me, no pushing please.

 
 

” Have you seen Pollak’s latest cartoon?”

I have now, Scott. Thanks for the link.

“Shut the fuck up, John.”

Christ, who can argue with logic like that?

 
a concerned citizen
 

The Left has, through out history, killed, kidnapped, bombed and shot innocents who were only vaguely connected to the “White Establishment” or the “Military Industrial Complex” etc.

Indeed, it would be quicker to list the few liberals that haven’t killed whitey than the ones that have.

Famous whitey-killers on the Left include:

-Will ROGERS. Famous for saying “I never met a Whitey I didn’t want to kill.”

-Bill and Hillary CLINTON. Killed their friend and former business associate because he was white at the behest of Nubian Overlord Vernon X (aka Vernon Jordan). That was just the first of dozens of “Honkencides.”

-Paul TSONGAS and Mike DUKAKIS. The only thing Greeks hate more than Turks is Whitey.

 
 

The Unabomber? Jesse Jackson?

Please. It would require a combination of Lewis and Clark and Jorge Luis Borges to chart the associations, assumptions, and opinions they have connected to the name “Saul Alinsky.” Their notions of what Christ did and said are probably more accurate than their notion of what Alinsky was about.

Meanwhile, what Arky said up top.

 
 

Sometimes, as an exercise in hyperbole, I try and imagine the most horrible, irresponsible reaction to an event. I have literally never thought of anything so terrible that someone at the free republic hadn’t already said it before it occurred to me.

 
StringonaStick
 

A bit of a tangent here, but has anyone else noted that the Yahoo home page has yet to even mention the death of Dr. Tiller? Funny, that.

 
 

I wonder, if someone could somehow – SOMEHOW- slip under the radar and point out that Tiller pretty much exclusively performed abortions the absence of which would lead to the horrible death of mother, child or both, one would be able to hear the imploding heads through the computer.

Wait. You actually think these yay-hoos give a shit about the health of women? Even in the abstract? Really?

 
 

StringonaStick,
It’s not there now, but I think I remember seeing a link to the AP story yesterday. Almost positive, though I have no proof and I did smoke a lot of weed yesterday, so your mileage may vary.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

Christ, who can argue with logic like that?

Nobody?

Because, honestly, I’m not looking for an argument. I’m just tired of your “Obama hasn’t fixed the world! What a craven political shit who’s just like all the other politicians what break my heart!” bullshit.

 
 

It is the very definition of “lolsob”–that asshole shot Dr. Tiller in church, having apparently never read his Bible.

 
The Wrath of Oliver Khan
 

Could be a false flag op.

Boy howdy, they really do love to talk like this, don’t they?

 
 

Comrade Trotsky,

I don’t think John D is serious. I think he’s been satirizing OpenLeft commenters.

 
 

Could be a false flag op.

Boy howdy, they really do love to talk like this, don’t they?

That’s the one thing FR has in common with the DU, a solid core of tinfoilers that are willing to think anything could be a “false flag” by some sinister force. The DU at least tries to keep them corralled in the “dungeon” (the 9-11 forum) but on FR they get to run, um, free.

 
 

Boy howdy, they really do love to talk like this, don’t they?

Too much Tom Clancy and suchlike war-pr0n.

I dunno about anyone else, but, personally, anyone who talks/writes like that is prime material for a punch in the mouth.

 
 

How like the left to use an incident such as this for political gain. I see your trying to brand all right wingers as murderers again are we?

I for one disagree with the action taken. The American people are now majority pro-life for the first time since the 1950s, unfortunately the msm is now going to use this incident to brand all pro-lifers as extemists and possibly succeed in swaying public opinion back to the infanticide camp.

I wouldn’t put it past the left, this isn’t the first time they used an incident to brand all right wingers as extremists. Timothy McViegh anyone?

 
 

I’m not looking for an argument either, Trotsky, but it would be nice if Obama pulled his thumb out of his ass and actually did something besides cater to the $uper Rich.

He is just a craven politcial shit. We all pretty much knew that going in. I don’t deny he was the only rational choice in the election, given that he was running against two certifiably insane people (one a supposedly apolitical “maverick” who’d spent his entire life in Washington and the other an actual small-time grifter/con artist type who’d gotten by on her questionable cutsey-poo “charm”). But the election’s over, and we need a little more now than cheap rhetoric and soothing platitudes. Talk is cheap, and Obama is nicely proving himself to be nothing but a slickly packaged empty suit so far.

Not that that surprises me.

 
 

That’s what I’m talking about.

 
 

“Insert The Customary Wry Pun”

– May I suggest “Epic Flail” ?

 
 

The DU at least tries to keep them corralled in the “dungeon” (the 9-11 forum) but on FR they get to run , um, free. the place

Fixxywixxy

 
 

Boy howdy, they really do love to talk like this, don’t they?

Too much Tom Clancy and suchlike war-pr0n.

To be fair, Dolan/Brecher/The War Nerd (a much better war-pornographer) likes a good false-flag operation, but mainly because it’s the one area where covert operations intersect with psychological warfare and population loyalty.

But the classic false flag operation is either extremely high-key or extremely low-key: terrorizing peasants or providing a pretext for radical state action on a massive scale. Middlebrow stuff like killing an abortion doctor doesn’t really work that way.

 
 

Middlebrow stuff like killing an abortion doctor doesn’t really work that way.

No, but that doesn’t stop them from being vain enough to believe their “great crusade” is sooooooooooooooooo important and subversive that it warrants a major covert operation (as they deny there’s any concerted violence against abortion doctors and point out that it’s been ten years since a doctor has died).

Popinjayic children…

 
 

Hey shitbirds. Domestic terrorists vote. We’re not doing shit to alienate them. We already know all you sad suckoffs are voting our way but we have to reach out to the hard right domestic terrorists to keep our midterm numbers up. So shut the fuck up show some fucking discipline and take one for the fucking team.

 
 

posted on Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:20:00 PM by IMissPresidentReagan

AP (June 1): Developers were despondent this week as Apple (AAPL) rejected the latest iPhone app targeting the nascent neoconservative teen market sector. Named “iMissPresidentReagan”, the application allows the user to cut and paste a photo of themselves into a likeness of a famous former President in drag. They can then play dress up with a variety of preconfigured hats, dresses, wigs, and other accessories.

As of yesterday, Apple announced that it had decided to deny the request. “[T]his category of applications is often used for the purpose of infringing third-party rights,” said a spokesman, according to Wired. “We have chosen to not publish this type of application to the App Store.”

The letter went on to say that, “Applications must not contain any obscene, pornographic, offensive or defamatory content or materials of any kind (text, graphics, images, photographs, etc.), or other content or materials that in Apple’s reasonable judgment may be found objectionable by iPhone or iPod touch users.”

Users were still hopeful that the company could be persuaded to change its ruling, arguing that this is the only application of its kind that allows them to fulfill their fantasy of imagining themselves as a prepubescent, union-busting former actor. “The fact is,” one remarked, “the Gipper rules, and he rules even more as a hot 14-year-old babe with my face.”

 
Fred E. Ceancis
 

How like the left to use an incident such as this for political gain. I see your trying to brand all right wingers as murderers again are we?

You know what would be cool, is if a single one of you dickless pieces of shit would express sadness, or contrition, or some kind of “I’m against abortion but this is fucked up” sort of thing, before you jump back into your reflexive “Never mind what actually happened, this is somehow a leftist conspiracy to exert control over my insignificant pisant life” fantasy.

Really, something as simple as “you know, what that guy did was really horrible” would be awesome. But no matter what, whenever one of your own flies off the handle and starts taking the eliminationist rhetoric of your politicians and your talking heads seriously, not a single god damn one of you can take even a second away from your hyperventilating to acknowledge that a a movement that calls itself pro-life should not be in the business of taking anybody’s life. Just “uh oh, the lefties are coming after us, and they’re gonna send us to reeducation camps, and this is all Obama’s fault somehow, and fairness doctrine, and Marxism, and BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH”.

Fuck the lot of you.

 
 

“The fact is,” one remarked, “the Gipper rules, and he rules even more as a hot 14-year-old babe with my face.”

Gary Ruppert owns an iPhone???

 
 

The American people are now majority pro-life for the first time since the 1950S

I’d wager most Americans had no clue what an abortion was in the 50s, so Epic Fail.

 
 

Shorter John D: I am so very, very concerned. Can’t you just see the concern oozing off of my pants fly me?

 
 

Pffft. You left out the best bit. It was comment #9, last time I checked:

Let’s not assume this has anything to do with abortion. Until I hear differently, I’m going with a gay lovers’ spat.

Or perhaps it was all about… the gay abortion!

 
 

Shorter Brandi: If we don’t gooestep after Obama with blind, unthinking subervience, no matter how demonstrably far to the right he swerves,then everything bad that happens will be our fault!

 
Usually known as The Goddamn Batman
 

I would not even put it past them to commit this murder themselves, as an excuse to sieze power. Reichstag Fire, and all that…

Totally unlike the way that Bushco exploited 9/11 in the 2002 elections.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Didn’t we seize power last November?

 
St. tensor teh trollbeater
 

How like the left to use an incident such as this for political gain.

Yeah, why aren’t we stalking some teenager, and slobbering about the furnishings in his parents’ kitchen?

I see your trying to brand all right wingers as murderers again are we?

Some of us start as spelling and grammar Nazis, and move up from there. Seriously, we cite deliberate acts of murder and torture to brand our opponents as immoral criminals. How dare we?

I for one disagree with the action taken.

When the topic is a teenaged girl, molested by her uncle, or denied real sex education before dating; or when a woman who wants a child finds herself carrying a brain-dead foetus, then Load Huffy and his ilk blast forth with megatons of fire-eating, Old Testament rhetoric about “sluts”, “trash”, and “baby-killers”. When some survivalist whackjob, fed endless amounts of such hate talk by Operation Messdude, shoots a man in church, we hear little Laird Fondleboy lisping his dismay, teacup to his lips, ring glittering from extended pinky finger.

The American people are now majority pro-life for the first time since the 1950s,

Dude, opposing Boy King Bushie’s failed wars does not equate to advocating forced births. The former is actually pro-life, the latter just empty posturing.

…unfortunately the msm is now going to use this incident to brand all pro-lifers as extemists and possibly succeed in swaying public opinion back to the infanticide camp.

Of course, you could actually do something to show how you differ from these terrorists, but you really don’t want to talk about how your physical cowardice alone prevents you from emulating them, now do you?

I wouldn’t put it past the left, this isn’t the first time they used an incident to brand all right wingers as extremists. Timothy McViegh anyone?

If the left would just stop talking about the right-wing extremists, from Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber, to Al-Qa’eda, we terrorist sympathizers wouldn’t have to make such non-denial denials, now would we?

Why is it impossible to differentiate right-wing trolls on lefty snark blogs from Serious Makers of Republican Party Policy?

 
 

little Laird Fondleboy

OK, that’s a keeper.

 
 

Oddly, in that list of murderers above only the Unabomber actually killed anyone and who on the left has ever claimed that delirious neo-Luddite as one of their own? The Weather Underground planted bombs in empty (or soon-to-be-emptied) buildings and killed only themselves when one of them went off prematurely. As usual, the projection is numbing.

 
 

Oh, the Panthers. Huey Newton was accused of two murders. He was acquitted of one and the other case was dropped.

 
 

“Why is it impossible to differentiate right-wing trolls on lefty snark blogs from Serious Makers of Republican Party Policy?”

It didn’t used to be, St. Tensor. But all of the grown-ups seem to have abandoned the Republican party to the trolls and worse.

 
 

It’s odd how for right-wing extremism is apparently mostly contrived by the state for repressive purposes while left-wing extremism is an obvious fact. Which is especially strange considering how many revolutionary socialist bombings have been committed in the last few decades. Politics are mad.

 
 

The silver lining I see is that people are learning the real story of why people have these procedures done.

They present a sympathetic victim of circumstances who is making a tough choice. That is good p.r.

But it came at a terrible price.

 
 

This post appeared yesterday on the Wichita Eagle’s WE Blog —

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RedWhiteNBlue
Posted June 2, 2009 at 6:09 am | Permalink

Turns out, George Tiller’s death was a contract suicide.

We all know George Tiller was suffering from terminal prostate cancer. He knew he was dying and knew no one becomes a martyr by dying in his bed.

No. Tiller needed to live beyond life for his evil life to have meaning. So he hired Scott Roeder to shoot him in the face, at church, on an otherwise slow news weekend.

How else would Roeder know Tiller would be an usher instead of in the sanctuary at 10 a.m. Sunday? Tiller told him.

Why was Tiller outside the sanctuary after church services had begun? Tiller was waiting for Roeder.

Why was it one shot to the head for instant death instead of a few agonizing gut shots? Tiller ordered the most painless death possible. Something he never gave his own victims.

How else would a convicted felon get the gun that facilitated the murder? Tiller paid for it.

This was the ultimate media invent, conjured by the pro-death movement to continue their central reason for living: to continue killing perfect Gerber babies just for the fun of it.

Tiller was a publicity-seeking diva who needed to go out with a bang.

Well, he got it. And the liberal communist anti-Jesus media has jumped on the bandwagon in response to the news most Americans are pro-life.

Tiller is the unindicted coconspirator in this left-wing media frenzy. He orchestrated it from the beginning.

 
 

you shoulda included the last line monkeyhawk

 
 

“Operation Rescue has worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see him brought to justice.

Let’s see:

“peaceful”: You know, when we scream epithets at pregnant women seeking medical care, and engage in stalking, vandalism, and attempted murder.

“legal”: Because nothing says legal like one of our members shooting Tiller in the arms fifteen years ago.

“brought to justice”: Which, er, really sorta gives the game away about the disingenuousness of this entire statement, doesn’t it, seeing as how Dr. Tiller was engaged in lawful activies. Once the juries agreed with that, what other sort of “justice” is left? Looks like we found out, thanks to the latest gun-wielding groupie with Operation Rescue on speed dial.

 
 

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