Joe The Plumber’s Phone Is Ringing

Erick Erickson, RedState:
Palin Is In

For those who were questioning the National Council for New America based on who was not on board, one of the names of those not on board has been Sarah Palin. She is now on board.

If you can imagine the part of a parade with the Shriners in fezzes driving miniature cars, that’s the National Council for a New America — except instead of fezzes it’s ignominy, and also ignominy instead of miniature cars.

Another way to see it would be as The Five Doctors, but instead of the first five guys who played Dr. Who, you hear that familiar scrapey, sireney sound, and out of a materialized Port-a-San comes Haley Barbour, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.

Of course, as Rush said today, we don’t really need a listening tour. We need a teaching tour.

Americans think we’ve gone nuts. Let’s tell Americans to shut up and send our failed candidates out to lecture them.

Keep it up like this, Agent Erickson, and you will surely have a dacha and an automobile after the Great Redistribution.

 

Comments: 377

 
 
 

For those who were questioning the National Council for New America based on who was not on board, one of the names of those not on board has been Sarah Palin.

is it a crazy republican thing that sentences have to be awkward and repetitive? this is bordering on a bushism.

 
 

Gavin M.:

If you can imagine the part of a parade with the Shriners in fezzes driving miniature cars, that’s the National Council for a New America — except instead of fezzes it’s ignominy, and also ignominy instead of miniature cars.

I’m guessing that makes Palin captain of the booth babes at the Shriner’s convention, except instead of booth babes ignominy?

And for some reason, whenever I see the words ‘ignominy’ and ‘Republicans’ in close proximity, it always makes me think of hominy grits.

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sarah:

is it a crazy republican thing that sentences have to be awkward and repetitive?

No, it’s a stupidity thing, though granted, there’s an enormous amount of overlap.

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Dacha… nice.

Is that really what Rush said? Sweet suffering Jesus.

Also, just had a look at Steele’s recent comments about moderate Republicans having a “seat at the table” so long as they keep their damn traps shut (I paraphrase).

What a stupid, bogus party. I mean, really just the worst. And they’d been riding so high for so long… just seemed like it’d be that way forever. Then, suddenly a light went on in America’s collective brain, and boom, out they went.

Not even my dirtiest, sexiest West Wing Democrat fantasies could have prepared me for these times.

 
 

Hmmm, ignomnomnominy.

 
 

joestork:

What a stupid, bogus party. I mean, really just the worst. And they’d been riding so high for so long… just seemed like it’d be that way forever. Then, suddenly a light went on in America’s collective brain, and boom, out they went.

Right? It’s like the country suddenly and inexplicably went sane. Although there are still some who act like the GOP only went nuts in the last half-decade, I’m shocked by the number who will now, finally, admit that the Republicans have been crazy for at least the last 30-40 years.

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Wyatt Watts III
 

Of course, as Rush said today, we don’t really need a listening tour. We need a teaching tour

…of the Dominican Republic.

 
 

Remember, Republicans learn more from listening to Rush Limbaugh than they learn in school – things like how to grind and snort Oxycontin.

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The new GOP now with more ignominy.

 
 

Where have you gone, Sam Wurzelbacher
A nation turns its squinty eyes to you

 
 

Well at least the on-boarding of Sarah Palin reduces the quotient of scrotal sag somewhat.

 
Ted the Slacker
 

Of course, as Rush said today, we don’t really need a listening tour. We need a teachingbagging tour.

fizt.

 
 

Then, suddenly a light went on in America’s collective brain, and boom, out they went.

And yet the light remains out for Dave Broder, Fred Hiatt, and company.

 
 

National Council for New America

Newest Council of American Nationalists

Ahh, that’s better…

 
 

Relevant web log pimping:

More on the NCNA.

 
 

The fact is, the biased media and your liberal brainwashing insures you liberals believe things about USA that are not true. Truth is, we are about God and Freedom, and we do not like class war and homosexuality

 
 

Well at least the on water-boarding of Sarah Palin reduces the quotient of scrotal sag inane statements somewhat.

 
 

Rush on the importance of sitting down and shutting up:

“But everybody else on this bus tour—for the most part—is responsible for where we are. We did it their way in 2008. We did it with the candidate and approach that they thought would work. Pandering. ‘We got to listen to the American people.’ I maintain that when a politician says we have to listen to the American people and learn, we are pandering. We’re not leading.”

Everybody else = Everyone who is not Jeb Bush. We = A sign Rush considers himself a politician, I hope, I hope, I hope.

 
 

Rush is right. Only losers like Hillary Clinton go on listening tours. Rush also said Jeb! and the others hate Palin because she’s the only Reagan Republican out there and that’s why she’s not on the not-listening tour. But now she is on the tour, so let us give thanks and praise to Rush for her addition.

 
 

And since you mention Sam “The Almost Plumber” Weaselwalker:

He doesn’t let his “queer friends” near his children.

And:

God is recognized as, if you will, America’s religion.

Yep. And also.

 
 

For those who were questioning the National Council for New America based on who was not on board

Oh, yeah, THAT’s why we were questioning it.

*snort*

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Another way to see it would be as The Five Doctors, but instead of the first five guys who played Dr. Who, you hear that familiar scrapey, sireney sound, and out of a materialized Port-a-San comes Haley Barbour, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.

Indeed, I cannot wait for the GOP ticket in 2012: Darlek/The Master “We will will exterminate humanity!”

Strangely, they’ll do better than Palin or Jindal as the newly sane American public enjoys the refreshing honesty of this platform.

 
 

Yep. And also.

As it were.

 
 

oh, please. please, dear God/FSM/Universe/whatever, please let them go on a lecture-America tour, telling us what a bunch of whiners we are and to just suck it up and be thankful for the crumbs corporations might see fit to throw us. you know, we really need to hear that; it would be most bracing.

 
 

The new GOP now with more ignominy.
If that is the same as less gnominy, then surely it is a change for the better. Bloody gnomes.

 
 

I maintain that when a politician says we have to listen to the American people and learn, we are pandering. We’re not leading.

Hint, Pigman: leaders in a democracy/republic like the United States, they listen to their consituents ’cause that’s what the whole “democracy” things’s about. “We The People” and crazy shit like that.

What you’re thinking of there, Oxy-Man, is what we usually call a “dictatorship”. Maybe you’re comfortable with leaders like that, but I have the funny feeling the American people as a whole aren’t.

 
 

The NCNA said they weren’t going to kowtow to the religious right and they stuck to their guns for almost 24 hours before they folded.

Teaching tour = Authoritarian Lollapalooza

 
 

Yep. And also.

As it were.

So to speak.

 
 

Of course, as Rush said today, we don’t really need a listening tour. We need a teaching tour.

Because shut up, that’s why.

 
 

The thing that strikes me as obvious, and Imthink most of the country now sees it too, is that while the democrats are trying to address the problems that are facing the country, the solutions the republicans are looking for is how to win elections again.

 
 

The idea that an intellectual engine like Palin must be on board with this movement just highlights the craveness.

 
 

He doesn’t let his “queer friends” near his children.

I saw that this morning and thought that’s pretty funny coming from Jeff “Sperm Cannon” Gannon’s long-lost twin brother.

I do wonder how this works. Does he lock the kids up before the queer friends come over? Does he tell them “Hey look, we can be friends but if you look at my kids I’ll shoot you?”

Could it be “queer friends” means a cashier/bank teller/bartender he thinks is gay whom he is labeling as a friend for the purpose of making an ass of himself. Again?

Nah.

 
 

Any Republican with even an iota of a smidgen of mainstream appeal will be slapped down by Rash Limpbowel and consigned to the wilderness. The GOP devolving into a whackjob fringe party feeds his lust for power.

 
 

Palin/Bachmann 2012!

Also known as the “Throw Restraint To The Wind” strategy.

 
 

All that’s missing is a Princess Leia slave costume (and perhaps a case of viagra) to achieve the largest circle jerk in history.

 
 

He doesn’t let his “queer friends” near his children.

Hey, everybody, I’m miserable and paranoid and I’m doomed to make the same mistakes millions of asshole dads before me did.

 
 

Teaching tour = Authoritarian Lollapalooza

Now with extra looza!

 
 

There is so much gold whenever Not Joe the Not Plumber speaks. For instance:

“It’s not like [“queer” is] a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that.”

Gold, I tells ya.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Maybe Palin can make her lecture into a slide show, and the GOP can film a documentary about it.

 
 

Some see the dream ticket as Palin/Jindal. Wrong.

The REAL Republican dream ticket is Palin/Bachmann. Just think of the unbridled lunacy!

 
 

Coming to a pizza parlor in a mall near you.

 
 

I wonder if the republicans know that NCNA is urban slang for humping your cousin in the ear?

 
 

Not even my dirtiest, sexiest West Wing Democrat fantasies could have prepared me for these times.

I couldn’t possibly agree more. The GOP is now exceeding the Aaron Sorkin caricatures and what’s more, people aren’t actually falling for it (much) anymore

 
 

Funny, we haven’t heard much from Jean Schmidt lately…

U.S. Reps. Mike Turner and Jean Schmidt plan to introduce a bill that would allow communities refusing stimulus money to give that money back to the U.S. Treasury.

The bill comes after Warren County commissioners refused $373,400 in stimulus money for new transit buses in March. The commissioners said they opposed the idea of federal deficit spending for buses and vans, and Warren County Commission President Mike Kilburn was quoted saying he would let Warren County “go broke before taking any of Obama’s filthy money.”

Smart thinkin’.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Coming to a pizza parlor in a mall near you.

Amazing. Amazing. Click on “National Leaders” to see their “National Panel of Experts” leading off with Lamar Alexander, Roy Blunt and John Boener.

When you eschew science, education, academia and reason generally, I suppose then that the elected leaders of the Republican party can be “experts”

I wonder if they’re going to propose Tax Cuts? That always works, they should keep using it.

 
 

Gary Ruppert said above, “The fact is, the biased media and your liberal brainwashing insures you liberals believe things about USA that are not true. Truth is, we are about God and Freedom, and we do not like class war and homosexuality.”

What are you babbling about? You have been foisting class war on the middle class for thirty years.

As for homosexuality, you don’t have to practice it, no one is forcing you to.

Anyway, I’d rather have homosexuality than genocide and confederacy any day.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Warren County Commission President Mike Kilburn was quoted saying he would let Warren County “go broke before taking any of Obama’s filthy money.”

Some have worried that the bench strength of Republican crazy is thin, and after Palin, Cantor, Boener, Inhofe, Cornyn, Romney, Perry and Jindal leave the scene, they might run out of nuts. No, my friend, the Republican farm teams are still churning out some solid talent.

I look forward to the Kilburn 2020 Presidential campaign. His plan to blow up the moon will form an awesome wedge issue, putting Democrats in the uncomfortable positions of being soft on werewolves and in league with the environmental wackos like NASA who will oppose the plan.

 
 

Tax cuts and a free slice!

 
 

Anyway, I’d rather have homosexuality than genocide and confederacy any day.

It’s no surprise that a liberal like you would prefer the option that explicitly goes against God.

Also, I’m sick of leftists treating “Confederacy” like it’s a dirty word — it’s long past time we conservatives reclaimed it.

If it weren’t for fascist looters like Lincoln forcing their unfunded mandates on the entrepreneurs of the South, we wouldn’t have all these problems that we have today.

 
Peter Principle
 

Then, suddenly a light went on in America’s collective brain, and boom, out they went.

And yet the light remains out for Dave Broder, Fred Hiatt, and company.

They’re paid to keep the lights out.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Also, I’m sick of leftists treating “Confederacy” like it’s a dirty word — it’s long past time we conservatives reclaimed it.

That is a brilliant idea. Please encourage your GOP leadership to do so. If that doesn’t cure the ails of an all white party floundering in a decreasingly white America, nothing will.

WRITE YOUR SENATORS

 
 

It’s no surprise that a liberal like you would prefer the option that explicitly goes against God.

Also, I’m sick of leftists treating “Confederacy” like it’s a dirty word — it’s long past time we conservatives reclaimed it.

If it weren’t for fascist looters like Lincoln forcing their unfunded mandates on the entrepreneurs of the South, we wouldn’t have all these problems that we have today.

Here’s how far the GOP has descended into nut territory: I am now completely unable to discern whether a comment like this is a joke or a sincere transmission from Rush’s planet.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Yeah, I am having second thoughts about the seriousness of that post too. I think it’s the “entrepeneurs” of the south – no real conservative would use a pansy frenchified word like that.

 
CKDexterHaven
 

You still have Gary Ruppert? The other blogs will be so jealous. To see him in here ‘reclaiming’ treason is waay fun.

 
 

I wasn’t aware that Joe the Not-Plumber even had kids. Let alone gay kids.

 
 

Multiple parody Gary Rupperts is an internet tradition of which all Sadly Naughts are aware.

And why aren’t you talking about me anymore?

 
 

As for homosexuality, you don’t have to practice it, no one is forcing you to.

Oh, but they are. Those damned fags keep coming up and sucking Gary’s cock every time he goes to the White Swallow Men’s Bath House. There’s nothing he can do about it.

 
 

And reciprocation is only polite.

 
 

“On board” what? The Titanicon?

 
 

Slightly OT, but please allow me to use my Richard Cohen voice.

*ahem*

How dare the GOP cave in to the forces of affirmative action by using one of their few non-white guys in that advertisement? As a “conditional liberal”, I am appalled that this spot on this new group’s “panel of experts” didn’t go to a white man who would have obviously been better qualified than that crazy Indian character Bobby Jindal!

 
 

Hey, at least the Shriners care about burn victims…

 
 

“On board” what? The Titanicon?

That’s Titanicon A.E., buster.

 
 

Slightly OT, but please allow me to use my Richard Cohen voice.

Not bad, but where’s the “gimme five bees for a quarter” and the part about the yellow onion on your belt?

 
 

I think what America really needs is a tour by libertarian engineers screaming at them that everybody else is stupid and Ayn Rand had it all figured out in that book and also shut up with your fag marriage shit.

 
 

Except that John McCain his caught in a time warp with Romana and can’t contribute.

 
 

Except that John McCain his caught in a time warp with Romana and can’t contribute.

What, he doesn’t know to wiggle K-9’s tail? N00b.

 
 

Conservatism has failed, so they’re all libertarians now. It’s just that they happen to be libertarians who hate the homos and think you should be killed if you don’t worship Jesus. Which is completely different to conservatism.

 
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

Yep. And also.

As it were.

So to speak.

It can’t be long before per se wanders in.

Oh, there it is!

 
Bitter Scribe
 

Then, suddenly a light went on in America’s collective brain, and boom, out they went.

More like a hole developed in America’s collective wallet.

 
 

Conservatism has failed, so they’re all libertarians now. It’s just that they happen to be libertarians who hate the homos and think you should be killed if you don’t worship Jesus. Which is completely different to conservatism.

Today’s NuLibertarianism includes the view that things like habeas corpus and fair trials and rights against unwarranted search and surveillance are optional and that the government can choose to ignore those so-called ‘inherent’ limits depending on how it happens to feel that day about the targets of those coercive activities.

 
 

Teaching tour = Authoritarian Lollapalooza

LOLapalooza? If you will.

 
 

They’re all bozo’s on that bus.

 
 

Gary Ruppert said,

May 5, 2009 at 15:41

Best Gary in ages.

 
 

I wonder if they’re going to propose Tax Cuts? That always works, they should keep using it.

I went to the National Council for a New America site, clicked on “Principles,” clicked on “The Economy,” and then clicked on “Learn More.” That took me to Cantor the Whip’s “Economic Solutions Center,” and that’s when I stopped listening.

 
 

Um, Gary, old sock, I think that particular “fascist looter” is pretty generally regarded as the founder of the party you’re apparently attempting to defend here.

I do think you’re idea about the GOP making it a central aim of their messaging to reclaim “confederacy” as a positive term is a great idea though. You should definitely continue to promote it. We’re all behind you on that one.

 
 

Interesting. The NCNA was supposed to be about moderating some of the nutcase voices on the right in the Republican party.

This is like the fox asking the farmer to be put in charge of the hen house and the faramer saying “Sure! We could use a moderate vegan like yourself!”

 
commie atheist
 

For those of you who didn’t click on M. Bouffant’s link above, here’s Not-Joe the Not-Plumber’s insightful views on homos, in their entirety:

In the last month, same-sex marriage has become legal in Iowa and Vermont. What do you think about same-sex marriage at a state level?

At a state level, it’s up to them. I don’t want it to be a federal thing. I personally still think it’s wrong. People don’t understand the dictionary—it’s called queer. Queer means strange and unusual. It’s not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that. You know, God is pretty explicit in what we’re supposed to do—what man and woman are for. Now, at the same time, we’re supposed to love everybody and accept people, and preach against the sins. I’ve had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn’t have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they’re people, and they’re going to do their thing.

 
 

Anyway, I’d rather have homosexuality than genocide and confederacy any day.

It’s no surprise that a liberal like you would prefer the option that explicitly goes against God.

So God is PRO-genocide?

No wonder so many Jews died in WW2…

 
commie atheist
 

Speaking of J. T. Plummer, has there ever been an equivalent moronic leftist spouting incoherent, poorly-thought-out platitudes getting this much media space, six months after an election rendered him irrelevant? I can’t remember any.

 
 

So God is PRO-genocide?

No wonder so many Jews died in WW2…

According to the WWII documentary Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark, God only gets mad and intervenes when you touch His stuff without His permission. You can kill as many of His chosen people as you want, but just don’t open His Ark.

 
 

Palin aside, I’m actually most pleased to see my BFF Lamarr Alexander up there on the “onboard” list. He earned my eternal love for picking my top fave “Most Unintentionally Self-Revealing Campaign Theme Song in US History” for his presidential bid back when. “Same as it ever was” by Talking Heads. Guess he liked the title and never listened to any of the lyrics.

“You may find yourself living in a shotgun shack”

“You may say to yourself, my god, what have I done!”

Truly a distillation of GOP policies and philosophy in musical form, though perhaps not quite in the way Mr Lamarr probably thought.

 
 

commie atheist: They’ve gotta fill those 24/7 news slots with something. And I think it was Jon Stewart who asked “Why?”

 
Wyatt Watts III
 

I’ve had some friends that are actually homosexual.

As opposed to friends who are fraudulently homosexual?

 
 

Speaking of J. T. Plummer, has there ever been an equivalent moronic leftist spouting incoherent, poorly-thought-out platitudes getting this much media space, six months after an election rendered him irrelevant?

Jerry Brown, circa 1992.

Not that I dislike what Brown had to say in the primaries or his positions, but by then he had been so thoroughly rejected by so many different voting populations that it was hard to think of anything he said seriously.

 
 

DrBB: Oh sure, easy for YOU to say. You don’t have Lamar! [sic] “representing” you in DC.

 
 

So Sarah Palin is now on board, eh? I can just see the interview in 2012:

“Which boards are you now on?”

“Oh, all of ’em.”

 
 

Of course, as Rush said today, we don’t really need a listening tour. We need a teaching tour.

God will doubtless smite me for this, but …

While on tour, Rush will be teaching “boyrigami”.

 
Mr. Wonderful
 

“Yep. And also.

As it were.

So to speak.”

And such as.

Do not fail to read that interview w/ Joe the Idiot. He will be in my prayers to keep him front and center in the (stifles laughter) “Republican comeback.”

 
 

If it weren’t for fascist looters like Lincoln forcing their unfunded mandates on ^down the throats of the entrepreneurs of the South, we wouldn’t have all these problems that we have today.

Fixed to correct squawking point Fail.

 
 

actor212 – Yes actually; if you read some of the early parts of the bible, god loves him some genocide, and commands it many times; in fact, he got pissed off at the Israelites for not killing the enemy’s children at one point. One of the things that turned me off from Christianity.

 
Wyatt Watts III
 

Yes actually; if you read some of the early parts of the bible, god loves him some genocide…

Almost as much as he loves slavery. And hates shrimp.

 
 

JMP,

Ah, see, I draw a distinction between God wiping out his creations in a flood or raining plagues down on Egypt and men killing other men despite, you know, the silly little Commandment thingie…

 
 

Almost as much as he loves slavery. And hates shrimp.

And football.

 
 

“Of course, as Rush said today, we don’t really need a listening tour. We need a teaching tour.”

What you really need Rush a scolding tour in which you tell Americans what a bunch of stupid, ungrateful butt-munches they are.

 
 

In fairness, Jindal and Jeb Bush really aren’t “failed candidates”.

 
 

And hates shrimp.

That’s what turned me off to the whole Judeo-Christian philosophy.

I mean, if I can’t have shrimp, what’s the point in any of it?

 
 

“Then, suddenly a light went on in America’s collective brain, and boom, out they went.”

“More like a hole developed in America’s collective wallet.”

Yeah, true. But hopefully, once the economy stabilizes somewhat, people won’t IMMEDIATELY go back to the Republicans. I mean, they have shamed themselves quite enormously these past 100 days. It’s very strange to see a party go from a position of near-insurmountable power to being a complete and utter international laughingstock in such a short span of time. Being a young guy, I’ve never seen anything like this before. I didn’t know it could happen like that.

Somewhat relatedly, I was reading a post on another website by someone who was unemployed and suffering from cancer. She seemed pretty convinced that these salad days of Democratic domination were already numbered — that America was not in any way “cured” of conservatism, that the GOP would return sooner than people thought, and that Democrats should put all their political capital behind establishing a nationalized healthcare system as quickly as possible, even if the cost was letting other initiatives — including the torture investigations — drop. She said it was a horribly cynical position, but for her, there “were no other priorities.” I don’t agree, but it kind of gave me pause.

 
 

Sadly, No! should never miss an opportunity to include a photograph of people like Erik the Erikson.

I almost often find that seeing their faces gives me new insight into the opinions and literary constructions of these goofballs.

I’ll often think to myself: “Where do the things people like this say come from?” and then I’ll see a photo, say, of “K-Lo” or “Jonah Goldberg” or Ramesh Ponorruuruu and I’ll think, “Ah.”

My grandma used to say “Beauty is as beauty does” and I’m not sure what that meant, but anyway, she said that.

 
Overconfident Much?
 

We’re coming back fast. Watch the Governor’s races this year–they’re the bellwether. Democrats are too busy doing victory laps to notice they’re about to get blindsided!

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Speaking of J. T. Plummer, has there ever been an equivalent moronic leftist spouting incoherent, poorly-thought-out platitudes getting this much media space, six months after an election rendered him irrelevant? I can’t remember any.

I certainly don’t remember Al Gore or John Kerry getting a quarter of the attention that McCain gets. Kerry was still a relatively senior sitting Senator. To be fair, that might be because Kerry and Gore just had some common decency to hold their tongues for awhile after losing, while McCain just can’t bring himself to skip a Sunday show invitation.

Joe the Plumber wasn’t even a candidate, he holds no office, and is essentially a right wing celebrity. At least now we can point to him when the right grouses about Bono or Clooney.

 
Austrian Economics
 

There was a left-wing JtP. Her name was Cindy Sheehan, you may have heard of her.

 
 

Shall we bookmark it, overconfident?

My Dad used to say, “beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone.” Never had the opportunity to test it.

 
 

I would absolutely agree that our number one priority should be to establish comprehensive, effective national healthcare while we still have the votes. In every country in which a left-leaning government has done that, it has immediately become an untouchable right. Suddenly conservatives have a choice between accepting a fait accompli and fighting to boot sick kids out of hospitals.

But here’s what I think we will get instead: A “public option” that is administered by well-connected corporations, has unaffordable premiums, and severely limits access to treatment. If we are lucky we may also be legally required to buy health insurance from our choice of five national providers. I’ve seen the future, and it is Massachusetts.

 
 

We’re coming back fast. Watch the Governor’s races this year–they’re the bellwether. Democrats are too busy doing victory laps to notice they’re about to get blindsided!

So that’s why Massachusetts had 47 Republican governors in a row! It’s really a solidly red state, but the voters, and polls, and Preznitential candidates didn’t know that.

In fact things are looking so good, that I hear Barry Goldwater likes his chances in ’12.

 
Austrian Economics
 

Yes, god forbid people should have a CHOICE of health providers!

 
 

God only gets mad and intervenes when you touch His stuff without His permission.

Yup. As my dear departed mother always said:

“You can rape their women and kill their children, but don’t ever fuck with their money.

 
 

You can rape their women and kill their children, but don’t ever fuck with their money.

What if I kill the women, fuck with the children, and rape the money?

 
 

“Now where’s that Eskimo woman I gotta wrestle?”

 
 

Yes, god forbid people should have a CHOICE of health providers!

That’s the Republican plan EXACTLY!

 
 

So THAT’S them, the people. Curiously pale crowd there, seems to me. On the other hand, Drier and McConnell are on board so they’ve got the closeted homo community pretty well represented.

 
 

There was a left-wing JtP. Her name was Cindy Sheehan, you may have heard of her.

Cindy Sheehan lost her son. Joe the Plumber lost a few dollars off his tax bill. Priorities, people!

 
Lawnguylander
 

His phone is ringing off the hook but he’s not a plumber.

 
 

Curiously pale crowd there, seems to me.

With the exception of Boehner.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Yes, god forbid people should have a CHOICE of health providers!

Yes, in America, the poor and lower middle class have their CHOICE of insurance providers who will reject them or charge more than they can afford.

Later, when they get sick, they can CHOOSE which hospital to have bankrupt them.

Now that’s FREEDOM.

 
 

Cindy Sheehan lost her son. Joe the Plumber lost a few dollars off his tax bill. Priorities, people!

Never mind that Obama talked to Joe-The-Not-Plumber face-to-face. Bush & Sheehan? Not so much.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Cindy Sheehan lost her son. Joe the Plumber lost saved a few dollars off his tax bill. Priorities, people!

Clarified.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

We’re coming back fast. Watch the Governor’s races this year–they’re the bellwether.

So, the goalposts have moved from NY-20, I see. Especially since your predictions were so tragically faily, with a big sidecar of ignominy.

 
Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico
 

Having NOTHING isn’t a choice.

 
 

lushbo limpballs says the repuglitards need to go on a “Teaching Tour” ???

by all means, lushbo, please take it upon yourself to tour America, lecturing people on why exactly they are NOT real Americans

I can think of no greater advertisment for electing Democtrats

America just loves like lectures from limp dicked drug addled junkies

bring it on, doofus

 
 

Why does everyone hate me so?

 
Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico
 

Also.

When every Republican governer is tossed on their ass, where will the goal post move next?

“The county school boards are the real bellwether! Then you will be cowed with our power over your sweet, succulent, unprotected children!”

 
 

Yep. And also.

As it were.

So to speak.

Per Se.

Heh. Indeed.

 
Austrian Economics
 

Why should I have to pay for someone that made bad health decisions?

 
 

America just loves like lectures from limp dicked drug addled junkies

Hey! He only too all those drugs ’cause… ummm… ummm…. ’cause Hillary MADE him do it! Yeah! Yeah! Her husband stressed the Pigman out so much he had to send his maid off to buy shoeboxes full of illegal narcotics. Yup yup yup.

 
Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico
 

So that when you get the bankrupting cancer, you don’t die in a gutter.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 
 

Why should I have to pay for someone that made bad health decisions?

Like “getting sick”?

 
 

Why should I have to pay for someone that made bad health decisions?

Why anyone would choose to be an orphan is beyond me.

 
 

“Why should I have to pay for someone that made bad health decisions?”

You mean like when yoiur insurance premiums go up?

 
Marion in Savannah
 

Yeah, Austrian. My aunt was such a fool when she DECIDED to get breast cancer…

 
 

“Having NOTHING isn’t a choice.”

But we have been told Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose. So from that perspective, the total absence of health care is the ultimate health care freedom.

Oh sure, you could lose your actual health, but that really doesn’t affect your health care freedom.

Please hire me American Hospital Association! I can rationalize this shit in my sleep!

 
 

Yep. And also.

As it were.

So to speak.

Per Se.

Heh. Indeed.

If you will

 
 

Why should I have to pay for someone that made bad health decisions?

It’s only fair. Your mother made a bad decision in not aborting you and that has cost all of us dearly. Call it fairness, call it payback, call it whatever the fuck you want. We’re going to cal it the law.

 
 

Yep. And also.

As it were.

So to speak.

Per Se.

Heh. Indeed.

If you will

Such as.

 
Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico
 

But we have been told Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.

If I remember right, the wise Republican consultant to say that crashed a race car into a cactus and died.

So fuck that guy.

 
 

Your mother made a bad decision in not aborting you

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence!

 
 

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence!

Yeah, for all we know he could have been budded off like so many other fungi do.

 
Austrian Economics
 

I’m talking about someone who smokes six packs a day, eats shit, never exercises, drinks heavily, etc.

No private insurer would ensure him. But under single payer the government would FORCE me to help pay for his bad decisions.

 
 

Austrian Economics is smart he doesn’t even have to spell insurance correctly to make his point

 
 

So THAT’S them, the people. Curiously pale crowd there, seems to me. On the other hand, Drier and McConnell are on board so they’ve got the closeted homo community pretty well represented.

One person of color, two women, and the rest old boys. New America indeed, so long as one ignores demography.

 
 

Glibertarians are so cute when they beg the question. Just wanna pinch those rosy cheeks.

 
 

Why should I have to pay for someone that made bad health decisions?

Same reason I have to pay for W.’s war in Iraq. Same reason I have to pay for the mistakes of incompetent bankers. Same reason I have to pay for a justice system that’s all too often unjust.

Because we’re all in it together, whether we like it or not. You’re going to wind up paying for my bad health decisions, just like I’m going to wind up paying for your bad investment decisions, because sooner or later the bill always comes due. It just costs less when you pay up front. Instead of complaining about the system (from which we all, including you, benefit way more than we pay in), it would be way more productive to try to think of ways to make it work better, because the system ain’t going away. It’s a feature.

 
The Tragically Flip
 

No private insurer would ensure him. But under single payer the government would FORCE me to help pay for his bad decisions.

They already do, since now you have to subsidize his use of the emergency room when his undiagnosed diabetes becomes acute. Then you have to pay for his family’s social assistance after their primary breadwinner dies, the sherriff to evict them from the house they can’t afford, the police and prisons to lock up his kids when they turn to crime…

Instead of paying for all that, you could have had a doctor diagnose and start treatment for $500. But I guess you understand fancy economics in a way us liberals don’t.

 
 

Just wanna pinch those rosy cheeks.

There’s a market for that, you know.

 
 

Yes, god forbid people should have a CHOICE of health providers!

Why should I not be able to choose a public service health plan because a bunch of Ayn Rand and von Mises infants think it’s tyranny?

 
 

eats shit

Ah, the common house fly, aka Insecticus Republicanus. Subsitsting entirely on a diet of bullshit from such sources as FAUX News, Glenn Bleccch, the Pigman, The American Spectator u.s.w. the common house fly is presently considered an endagered species but is neverhtless recommended for hunting, if not eating.

 
 

I thought the talking point was that government-provided health care is just another word for “NWO eugenics-based rationing”, which is directly orthogonal to this new talking point where the government will be powerless to deny unhealthy people that delicious, delicious healthcare money.

 
 

it would be way more productive to try to think of ways to make it work better, because the system ain’t going away. It’s a feature

Alternatively, you can move your anti-social ass to Somalia. They are your kind of people – a man is only limited by his ingenuity (and weaponry).

 
 

I was questioning the NCNA because it didn’t include Lord Cheney, and it still doesn’t include him so I’m still questioning it.

 
 

There was a left-wing JtP. Her name was Cindy Sheehan, you may have heard of her.

I don’t recall any national Democratic candidate inviting her up on the dais with them, or invoking her as an icon for “the people” during a debate. nor do I recall the time Democratic congresspeople invited her to advise them as a group.

 
 

Why should I have to pay for someone that made bad health decisions?

You already do! That’s how private insurance works!

 
The Tragically Flip
 

Well, he’s also still operating under the bullshit RW talking point that UHC means a government bureaucrat will make health care decisions for him. Maybe in the Soviet Union it worked that way, but I’m not aware of any other UHC country that lacks choice of provider/doctor/hospital.

Just ask someone in an HMO how much CHOICE they have.

 
 

They’re not decisions so much as they’re rolls of the dice.

 
 

Just ask someone in an HMO how much CHOICE they have.

Yeah, but in an HMO some schmuck is making money, the highest Republican good. They don’t mind getting screwed over, they just don’t want the government to do it.

 
 

Don’t employers already have to insure fat, crap-eating smokers, usually at the same group rate everyone else pays?

 
 

Don’t employers already have to insure fat, crap-eating smokers, usually at the same group rate everyone else pays?

God knows mine does!

 
 

Don’t employers already have to insure fat, crap-eating smokers, usually at the same group rate everyone else pays?

At my previous job in an office of seven people, my health insurance rates (for a 20-something non-smoker with no preexisting conditions) were jacked up because the same plan had to cover my boss (50-something smoker with high blood pressure), so it goes both ways.

 
 

It’s so amusing, the whines about otherpeople who eat crap coming from a Frito Lays preferred customer. That truckload of Cheetoh’s aint gonna eat itself, y’know?

 
Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico
 

Also, I like the impression it provides that he’s going to be specifically asked to pay medical costs for one guy.

Tell you what, ever seen Superman 3? With the whole percentage of a percentage of a single cent that the banks just toss out because they can’t use it?

That’s how we’re gonna pay for people’s medical costs. Everyone together will have a slim ten-thousandth of a penny shorn off their taxes, then we’ll combine those ten-thousandth of a penny into pennies, which will become dollars, which will cover the costs of medical bills for everyone!

Then when you get sick from the projected morbidly obese heart disease, cirrhotic-liver, destroyed smoker’s lung, stomach ulcers and hemorrhoids from being angry and evil all the time, and the cancer which will always come to get you, you’ll be covered.

By us.

All of us.

Because we care what happens to you, and don’t want to see you die in a gutter penniless, alone, and eaten by rats and feral dogs.

Because that’s sad and depressing, even for an asshole like you.

 
 

Please don’t compare the NCNA to Shriners, even in jest! Our local Shriners Hospital provides orthotics for my son (who has CP) that my HMO refuses to pay for. They will continue to do so completely free of charge until he turns 18.

I do suspect, though, that if they began campaigning for free healthcare for disabled children, they might find that their claim to the moral high ground got a little more traction with voters.

 
Austrian Economics
 

A government “option” is just a trojan horse for simgle payer.

It will keep costs very low in the beginning (it will be able to do this through taxes and printing money. Something the private sector can’t do.)

Then once all private insurers are driven into bankruptcy, the government will jack up costs and lower quality.

 
 

I do suspect, though, that if they began campaigning for free healthcare for disabled children, they might find that their claim to the moral high ground got a little more traction with voters.

That will happen when Winged Malkins start flying out of gooper behinds.

 
 

Aw c’mon. We all know that teh gummint can’t do anything as efficiently as the GREAT AND GLORIOUS FREE MARKET.

Nelson’s problem, he told CQ, is that the public plan would be too attractive and would hurt the private insurance plans. “At the end of the day, the public plan wins the game,” Nelson said. Including a public option in a health plan, he said, was a “deal breaker.”

Yeah, the private, for profit, GREAT AND GLORIOUS FREE MARKET FROM WHENCE ALL GOOD THINGS COME couldn’t compete. Go figure.

 
 

The government is like Walmart?

You learn something new everyday!

 
 

Then once all private insurers are driven into bankruptcy, the government will jack up costs and lower quality.

OH NOES! OUR PLAN IS EXPOSED!!11! CURSES, FOILED AGAIN!!!

But please tell me, Mr. Thoroughly Discredited Whacko Economic “Theory,” why would teh evil gummint do that? Why? No, I’m serious. What possible reason could there be if there’s not a profit motive?

 
 

I’m sure that if everybody here refutes my arguments in exactly the right way, you have a chance to actually change my mind.

It’s not as if I’m going to come back tomorrow and say the exact same shit all over again.

 
 


Because we care what happens to you, and don’t want to see you die in a gutter penniless, alone, and eaten by rats and feral dogs.


and there is the difference between them and us. Even though we abhor and despise their viewpoints, we still are willing to have them benefit from the (vastly more efficient) single payer/universal health model. They are sociopaths, and to them a person fallen in the gutter needs to be kicked hard, not helped up.

 
Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico
 

Then once all private insurers are driven into bankruptcy, the government will jack up costs and lower quality.

So, your argument is we shouldn’t allow the government to do this because the private industry wants the monopoly first?

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

why would teh evil gummint do that? Why?

Remember these doofi want the gummint to be run like a business, and their idea of business is to drive all your competitors under then jack up the costs.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

There.

 
 

Parody Troll said,

May 5, 2009 at 19:54

I’m sure that if everybody here refutes my arguments in exactly the right way, you have a chance to actually change my mind.
=========================================================
A fair point. I couldn’t help but point out that troll just outlined Walmart’s business plan when describing how the government would shaft the people. And now, it’s back to the office!

 
Austrian Economics
 

The government does it because governments always want more power over you and your life. As Washington said government is like fire–a dangerous servant and terrible master.

 
 

I’m talking about someone who smokes six packs a day, eats shit, never exercises, drinks heavily, etc.

No private insurer would ensure him. But under single payer the government would FORCE me to help pay for his bad decisions.

You’re right.

No private insurer would insure him. So he does without insurance, probably missing out on health maintenance help.

So when he goes to the ER for the heart attack and can’t pay, whom do you think pays that bill, hmmmmm?

You do. I do. That’s why an aspirin costs $12.

So rather than have the government “force” you to pay $5 to help him kick the habits and lose weight, you’d rather the HMO “forced” you to pay a few hundred a year.

Smart decision, boy-o….No wonder Republicans were voted out of office.

 
 

Another way to see it would be as The Five Doctors, but instead of the first five guys who played Dr. Who, you hear that familiar scrapey, sireney sound, and out of a materialized Port-a-San comes Haley Barbour, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.

Vote Saxon!

 
 

Shorter Austrian Parody

“The roof The roof the roof is on fire”

 
 

Austrian Economics said,
May 5, 2009 at 19:50

A government “option” is just a trojan horse for simgle payer.

I happen to know that horse, and he told me you absolutely refused to wear a Trojan.

Also, you promised him you’d call. Bastard.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

So rather than have the government “force” you to pay $5 to help him kick the habits and lose weight, you’d rather the HMO “forced” you to pay a few hundred a year.

I think the idea is just to close the ERs to anyone who doesn’t have insurance.

And then outlawing protests about it.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

As Washington also said, “goddamn, but these wooden teeth were an awful idea.”

 
Austrian Economics
 

I agree the government shouldn’t pay for emergency rooms for people who can’t afford it. It should be left to private charity.

 
 

Then once all private insurers are driven into bankruptcy, the government will jack up costs and lower quality.

We already pay more per capita for healthcare than any other country on the planet.

So the problem is….?

 
 

I agree the government shouldn’t pay for emergency rooms for people who can’t afford it. It should be left to private charity.

TRANSLATION:

I see dead brown and old people everywhere and smile.

Hater.

We tried that for 150 years in this country and had the one of the highest death rates among people over 50 in the world.

Try again, son, only first, go read a real book.

 
George Washington
 

Quote me in your douchebag glibertarian rants and somehow reconcile that with the fact that I believed I was morally justified in owning other human beings! Go ahead! Try it!

 
 

To paraphrase a commenter at Wonkette, isn’t “Austrian Economics” when you put on a brown shirt and march around seizing businesses and property from the Jews?

 
 

TEH AMURKAN TAXPAYERS R JOOS FOR OBAMA’S OVENS!!!!

 
 

A government “option” is just a trojan horse for simgle payer.

It will keep costs very low in the beginning (it will be able to do this through taxes and printing money. Something the private sector can’t do.)

Then once all private insurers are driven into bankruptcy, the government will jack up costs and lower quality.

You know, this is a capsule version of the mind-set of these guys. It’s not even ideology, it’s insane paranoia. They truly believe that “the government” ZOD-cyclopean Entity, or whatever, has a long-range goal to – what? To provide BAD SERVICE to citizens.

No, not misguided socialist ideals, not the belief – naive or not – that citizens deserve benefits, not some kind of egalitarian impulse that some people disagree with – but the end goal is to provide BAD SERVICE.

And in order to achieve this goal it will provide excellent low-cost service only to tdeliberately urn the excellent low-cost service into BAD SERVICE once all other options are gone.

You’d at least think that wingnuts would be sane enough to credit government with holding misguided beliefs that it would fail to deliver on due to bureacratic incompetence.

But these idiots believe that the motive driving “government” is to simply make citizens as dissatisfied as possible, deliberating choosing to do so.

Since that is in fact the goal of the Norquist arm of Wingnuttitude, once again we have a perfect example of Wingnut Projection.

 
 

As Washington also said, “goddamn, but these wooden teeth were an awful idea.”

He also lied his ass off about that cherry tree, but he knew a good PR push when he saw (said) one.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

But these idiots believe that the motive driving “government” is to simply make citizens as dissatisfied as possible, deliberating choosing to do so.

Which does explain the modern Republican Party.

 
George Washington's Slaves
 

He blamed that one on us, actually.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

When New America fails, will they try Crystal America?

 
 

But these idiots believe that the motive driving “government” is to simply make citizens as dissatisfied as possible, deliberating choosing to do so.

Because the gubmint is keeping them all from being squillionaires!

These spoiled brats are too much. They’d be whining for Mommy after a month or so, after the world put a heapin’ helpin’ of butthurt on ’em.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

“Austrian Economics”? Why don’t you just name yourself “Phlogiston Theory”?

 
 

“When New America fails, will they try Crystal America?”
Given their lionization of Beck, Santelli and all the other dickhead frat-wingnuts, I’d guess they’ll go with Jolt America.

 
 

When New America fails, will they try Crystal ^Meth America?

Fixed your post for you.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

When New America fails, will they try Crystal America?

I LOLed.

I think they’ll go with “America Classic”.

 
 

But these idiots believe that the motive driving “government” is to simply make citizens as dissatisfied as possible, deliberating choosing to do so.

As evidence, they cite the “inefficient” Postal service, conveniently forgetting that the USPS is mandated to provide an identical level of service to every community across the country at the same low price, no matter how remote.

A mandate neither Fedex, UPS or any other private service would dare try to match. But they’ll be happy to sop up whatever profit centers the USPS has and thus make the USPS an even “worse bargain”

 
 

Vanilla America! Diet Lemon America! Cherry Chocolate Dr. America! America Throwback (with the great retro taste of Goldwater!)

 
 

What possible reason could there be if there’s not a profit motive?

Because they’re eeeeviiil sooooocialiiiiistsssss!

 
 

Why don’t you just name yourself “Phlogiston Theory”?

The (four) humors are on you now, eh, Rusty?

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

Because they’re eeeeviiil sooooocialiiiiistsssss!

I honestly believe that rightards can’t conceive of any way to behave other than their own greedhead scheming. It’s like when that idiot was saying that pacifists were going to come murder us all because “the struggle” demands that every ideology, even nonviolence, be spread through violence.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

I am feeling sclerotic and sanguine, actor.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

I myself often feel phlegmatic.

*hock ptew*

 
 

I am feeling sclerotic and sanguine, actor.

Clearly a phlegm/blood imbalance.

 
 

I’d guess they’ll go with Jolt America.

I’ve been meaning to mention this, not that it likely applies to anyone here. Rockstar is the energy drink choice of fascists everywhere.

 
 

The reasoning:

I don’t like government
Therefore, government is the opposite of me
I like freedom
Therefore, government must want not-freedom
Therefore, everything the government does is done to make everyone less free
WOLVERINES

 
 

I am feeling sclerotic and sanguine, actor.

Sclerotic doesn’t mind, but Sanguine will sue you for sexual harassment.

 
 

I believe my rotund state is a result of a Humor, that being, Good.

 
St. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist
 

Sclerotic doesn’t mind, but Sanguine will sue you for sexual harassment.

Wasn’t she that dancer from “Moulin Rouge?”

 
 

Rusty, I think your djartklom needs a tune-up.

 
 

Hussein Obama Motumbe X has declared Purple Drink America.

 
 

I honestly believe that rightards can’t conceive of any way to behave other than their own greedhead scheming.

We’re back to the whole zero-sum issue. In their view, there’s a constant amount of assholery in the world, which cannot be reduced. It can be converted, but e=mc² says that the result explosion would make life on earth untenable.

It’s like when that idiot was saying that pacifists were going to come murder us all because “the struggle” demands that every ideology, even nonviolence, be spread through violence.

I missed that, but like it. When Vermont and New Hampshire merge, their license plates could read “Peace, or Die.”

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

The worth of Austrian economics is truly measured by its success in the marketplace, which is like unto that of Diet Crystal Pepsi with Lime.

 
 

Also, Maine will soon be in our hands!

Suck it, asshole bigot freichtards!

BWAHAHABWAHAHA

 
 

Rusty, I think your djartklom needs a tune-up.

Volkswagen really need to rethink their model names.

 
 

The thing I noticed about The New American I’m Not Listening La-La-La Council is that already-running South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford is not on it.

This bodes ill, but not for Sanford. He doesn’t think he needs to listen, either — he has all the answers and the divvil take the hindmost — but he’s even more arrogant in not even deigning to pretend he will.

 
 

Rockstar is the energy drink choice of fascists everywhere.

Rockstar is Weiner juice?! Yuck.

I’m glad I switched to Ed Hardy.

 
 

Also, Maine will soon be in our hands!

Suck it, asshole bigot freichtards!

Darling, I think that’s what they are afraid of!

 
Mouthful of Kelp
 

Sounds to me like they’re into Redstate Bull.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Rusty, I think your djartklom needs a tune-up.

So I Googled “djartklom,” and the website I found appears to be half English/half Middle Elfin.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

I thought Jew blood was the drink of fascists everywhere.

 
 

djartklom

I thought it was the place Danish photographers developed their work.

 
 

Gurdjieff? Really?

God damn I love the internet.

Amity Milford (from Wonkette) and djartklom in the same day.

 
 

Unity Milford. Whatever.

 
 

The government does it because governments always want more power over you and your life.

So in the mind of someone who calls themselves “Austrian Economics” the government is not of, by, and for the people, but is instead the hand-rubbing moustache-twisting villain out of a real shitty comic book.

If you really want to base your political philosophy on the American government as some sort of third-rate Dr. Doom, hey, whatever. Just dom’t be surprised when we laugh at you.

 
 

…”The police officer would say things to me like, ‘Your son is going to child protective services because you are not saying what we need to hear,”

Guillory, who practices in nearby Nacogdoches, Texas, estimates authorities in Tenaha seized $3 million between 2006 and 2008, and in about 150 cases — virtually all of which involved African-American or Latino motorists — the seizures were improper.

“They are disproportionately going after racial minorities,” he said. “My take on the matter is that the police in Tenaha, Texas, were picking on and preying on people that were least likely to fight back.”

Daniels told CNN that one of the officers who stopped him tried on some of his jewelry in front of him.

“They asked me, ‘What you are doing with this ring on?’ I said I had bought that ring. I paid good money for that ring,” Daniels said. “He took the ring off my finger and put it on his finger and told me how did it look. He put on my jewelry.”

Texas law states that the proceeds of any seizures can be used only for “official purposes” of district attorney offices and “for law-enforcement purposes” by police departments. According to public records obtained by CNN using open-records laws, an account funded by property forfeitures in Russell’s office included $524 for a popcorn machine, $195 for candy for a poultry festival, and $400 for catering.

In addition, Russell donated money to the local chamber of commerce and a youth baseball league. A local Baptist church received two checks totaling $6,000.

GLORY!

 
 

Unitard Milfy?

 
 

Unity Mitford. I can’t help it crazy ass British people give their children crazy ass names.

 
 

Gary Ruppert: “It’s no surprise that a liberal like you would prefer the option that explicitly goes against God.”

I don’t believe in God. That is my right as an American not to believe. Many of the founders were deists, not Christians. Nothing un-American about that.

Accept that the U.S. is made up of all kinds of people, just as the founders intended. You have a right to live as you do, so do I.

Live and let live. Chill out.

 
 

Was Gurdjieff too obscure? For this crowd!?!!?

 
 

$195 for candy for a poultry festival

Jeez, what do they serve at the candy festival — pork chops?

 
 

I can’t help it crazy ass British people give their children crazy ass names.
Please allow me this reprise.

 
 

I ain’t a cultured pig. Sorry.

 
 

Please allow me this reprise.

That’s not crazy ass – that’s just evil.

“What are you doing soldier! You are a MAJOR DICK HEAD!”

(from across the base) “Sir?”

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

So many comments… so many topics!

And for some reason, whenever I see the words ‘ignominy’ and ‘Republicans’ in close proximity, it always makes me think of hominy grits.

Ignominy grits are made of finely ground crow.

I’m talking about someone who smokes six packs

Finally, getting back to the topic of Gavin’s high-lair-ee-ous post, I have only a cursory knowledge of Dr Who– shameful for such a geek as I. I followed some of the Wikipedia links, and found this tidbit, which exactly describes the NCNA’s blarging and harumphing:

The sound effect of a Yeti’s roar is created by slowing down the sound of a flushing toilet

 
 

Was Gurdjieff too obscure? For this crowd!?!!?

The only reason I knew about it was this weird little ad that appeared on the back of the Village Voice every week that said “Gurdjieff Speaks!”

I wondered why they couldn’t shut him up.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Was Gurdjieff too obscure? For this crowd!?!!?

Speaking for myself only, sadly yes. But I like learnin’ new stuff.

 
 

Yeah … when I think “greatest minds of our time” I immediately think Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, & Mitt Romney – launching the “GOP 2: Teabagging Boogaloo” tour in a pizza parlour … move over Stephen Hawking, the AniBrainiacs are in the muthafuckin’ hood!

I wonder if this brain-trust are the ones that led Steele to welcome moderates into the party that’s in the middle of ruthlessly purging itself of them. Such cunning strategery from The Party Of No.

once all private insurers are driven into bankruptcy, the government will jack up costs and lower quality

Talking-points may sound way hella kewl, but they make for really shitty ammo in a real debate of real issues.

Private insurers are more likely to smell the coffee & sell out long before they’re insolvent – in the real world, that is.

It might help me not to giggle at you if you can show even one place on Earth where this actually happened as a result of a shift to public healthcare. Come up to Canada & try that line – we can always use a good laugh. Our healthcare is some of the best in the world, it’s shitloads cheaper than yours – & we’re all covered 24/7. America can have the same universal coverage we enjoy the minute it sets its mind to getting it, stops swallowing the horror-story horseshit the HMOs keep shovelling, & decides to get it done.

Before you start baaawing “OMG SOCIALIZED MEDICINE, OH NOEZ” keep in mind that it’s our health insurance that’s state-run … the hospitals here are every bit as private-sector as yours are. Enjoy your fail.

 
 

For a true cavalcade of stupid, y’all need to head over to my place and check out the pro-gun wingnuts imagining all sorts of bizarre scenarios to justify their gun lust. It’s hilariously funny.

 
 

“The government does it because governments always want more power over you and your life. As Washington said government is like fire–a dangerous servant and terrible master.”

Which explains why we avoid all forms of combustion.

FIRE BAD!

 
 

I’m talking about someone who smokes six packs

I was always afraid the moniker “beer bong” would confuse some folks.

 
 

I wasn’t aware that Rauchbier was any worse for you than regular beer.

 
 

I’m talking about someone who smokes six packs

Six-packs are merely licked and sucked on. Pole is for smoking.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I wasn’t aware that Rauchbier was any worse for you than regular beer

Can there be said to be such a thing as “regular beer”?

 
 

Can there be said to be such a thing as “regular beer”?

Only if it’s sold in the tank next to the Diesel Beer.

 
 

Can there be said to be such a thing as “regular beer”?

Well, I have one almost every night, is that not regular enough?

 
 

Can there be said to be such a thing as “regular beer”?

Yes.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I stand corrected.

Furiously googling images of generic food.

 
 

FIRE BAD!

You laugh, but I bet there was some Neanderthal Newt who sat around saying “So what’s WRONG with raw meat? You people just want to control my life!”

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

I hate WordPress. WordPress I hate, with its link eating propensities and comment-dropping trip.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articleAID=/19840101/REVIEWS/401010375/1023

I think I need a beer.

 
 

You wanna try that again?

 
 

I wasn’t aware that Joe the Not-Plumber even had kids. Let alone gay kids.
They live with their mothers.

 
 

WordPress and its “Document not found” messages.
Were you thinking of a Generic Food scene from “Repo Man”? Have a Generic Beer.

 
 

Dickhead troll doesn’t know how risk-pooling works. Risk-pooling is the basis for all forms of insurance.

Long story short – increasing the size of the pool is the best way to go, as far as the participants are concerned.

Want to make a really big risk pool that benefits all involved? How about making it the size of the whole fucking country.

Dickhead troll is a dickhead.

 
 

Can there be said to be such a thing as “regular beer”?

In Tschermanie, I think any pils will do.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

No generic beer for me tonight, strictly Dos Equis to celebrate the heroic victors of Puebla. The local taco place cooks three cow heads a day, and I love telling the fetching counter girl, “Quereria cabeza.”

 
 

I wasn’t aware that Joe the Not-Plumber even had kids.

I thought he just carried the eggs around in his cheek pouches until they were mature at which point he’d spew them forth to carry on alone.

 
 

Is today Sink-o duh Mayo, where I have a ham and mayo sandwich?

 
 

(not)Joe the (not)Plumber does indeed have children, I remember that info coming out when John McCain first foisted JTP onto the American stage. I think he has full custody, IIRC.

 
 

Is today Sink-o duh Mayo

Aieee! Reconquista! Reconquista! The Mexicans is coming! RUN FOR THE HILLS THE DAM IS BUST
Someone call Loud Obbs and order the Malkin a basket of snotchos To Go!

 
 

So in the mind of someone who calls themselves “Austrian Economics” the government is not of, by, and for the people, but is instead the hand-rubbing moustache-twisting villain out of a real shitty comic book.

Pretty much, unless there’s a Southern White Male in charge in which case everyone should fall in line while he gets on the with the righteous smiting and so forth.

 
 

I wasn’t aware that Rauchbier was any worse for you than regular beer

Teh Great Gazoogle tells me that there was indeed, as it were, a wave of concern in the late 70s / early 80s about nitrosamine compounds in beer, with Bamberg Rauchbier often mentioned as the worst offender by far, so to speak.

…a technical committee was formed and headed by Dr. W.A. Harwick of Anheuser-Busch, Inc. This lead to various procedures that could be used to control N-nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA) levels in malt.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

I have one of those generic beer cans in N.C.’s picture. Useta collect beer cans when a kid. The great thing about them is they take up a great deal of space while simultaneously failing to appreciate much in value.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

This lead to various procedures that could be used to control N-nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA) levels in malt.

I don’t want no NCNA in mah beer.
MDMA, otoh, would be acceptable.

 
 

Austrian economics:

Austria is well known for a generous social system. Although spending has been reduced in recent years, you will still find very good healthcare and a strong social security system. There is an extensive network of hospitals and doctors covering even the remotest areas of Austria.

 
 

Isn’t this wonderful? I remember the bad old days when people actually thought governments had a limited amount of money and couldn’t afford to indulge every idea, even ones that seemed attractive. Praise be to our Dear Leader, with whom all things are possible…for a while.

 
 

First, I have to ask whether Rusty has an Olde Frothingslosh (so light the foam is on the bottom!) can. I have a couple, somewhere or other.

Second, since things are slow, via GayPutzRiot, somebody call a waaambulance for Calamity Shlaes.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

PeeJ, I do believe I have an OF or two down in mater’s basement.

Ah, the ’70s…

 
 

Too bad Bachmann isn’t as brilliant as Biden, who said Franklin Roosevelt went “on the TV” and “talked about the stocket market crash” and plagarized.

Or how Obama said there were “57 states”.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Amity Shales needs to learn how to spell her own damn name.

 
 

Austrian School means Salma Hayek—lots and lots of Salma Hayek—and I Love Von Mises to Pieces, but absolutely, positively no Schumpeter. Keep him out of the discussion at all costs!

 
 

I made a generic “Little Girl” t-shirt for the Doktorling when she was smaller.

May contain the following: natural sweeteners (sucrose, fructose, glucose, lactose); permitted natural flavourings (cloves, nutmeg, cardamons, cumn, coriander, cinnamon); and Everything Nice.
Assembled in New Zealand using organic materials & natural processes.
CONTENTS MAY BE GENETICALLY MODIFIED

As Washington said government is like fire–a dangerous servant and terrible master.
The Googles could not provide me with a source for this oft-repeated line so I’m guessing that it was really Santayana.

 
Johnny "Wet Start" McCain
 

How many houses do I have again?

Cindy?

Anyone?

 
 

The SS were victims, just as much as the Jews.

Now look at this picture of me on a horse while I raise your taxes!

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Rusty, is this yours?

It has your name on it.

 
 

The difference is that Biden says dumb stuff accidentally, while Bachmann fully intends her stupidity.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

B4, I can’t claim credit. I’m too lazy to put together a site like that.

 
 

Rusty, if you have a can of Bearwhiz Beer, that ought to be worth a bunch.

 
 

“The difference is that Biden says dumb stuff accidentally, while Bachmann fully intends her stupidity.”

How the hell do you know? Biden talked about FDR on the TV with a straight face, but the MSM just ignored it. Meanwhile, Palin said you could see Russia from Alaska (a TRUE STATEMENT) and she was mocked endlessly. Bias, anyone?

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

No Bearwhiz, actor, but I have a full sixer of Billy Beer.

 
Mark Foley (R)-FL (ex)
 

how my favorite young stud doing

 
 

Dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time.

 
 

Bias, anyone?

Yeah, I’m biased towards thinking you’re a putz. Sit on it and spin.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

coriander

Know in some circles as… wait for it, wait for it-

CILANTRO!!!11!1!

evil cackling ensues

 
 

Clearly a phlegm/blood imbalance.
I recommend more tax cuts leeches. Trust me. I’m a doctor.

 
 

Meanwhile, Palin said you could see Russia from Alaska (a TRUE STATEMENT) and she was mocked endlessly.

She was, it’s true.

Not because you can see Russia from Alaska, but BECAUSE SHE SAID THAT QUALIFIES HER TO BE A WORLD LEADER!

OhmyfuckingGODcouldyouPULEEZgetafuckingclue,Nancy?????

 
 

“Dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time.”

She never said that, either. Another lie, along with the book burning.

 
Mark Foley (R)-FL (ex)
 

you need a massage

 
 

I believe the Earth is 6,000 years old.

 
 

Abstinence only works! Just ask Bristol

 
 

I read all the newspapers, except the parts about the Bush Doctrine.

 
 

In what respect, Charlie?

 
 

Meanwhile, Palin said you could see Russia from Alaska (a TRUE STATEMENT) and she was mocked endlessly.

To be fair, Sarah Palin provided a near endless sources of dumb shit to mock. Please make her the head of the GOP for the next four years, I for one could use the yuks.

 
Mark Foley (R)-FL (ex)
 

cool hope se didnt see any thing

 
 

Biden talked about FDR on the TV with a straight face, but the MSM just ignored it.

Meaning you found out about it…telepathically?

 
 

I cheated in law school and took kickbacks from credit card companies.

 
Mark Foley (R)-FL (ex)
 

Don’t forget to measure for me

 
 

I plagarized a speech from a British politician, word for word.

 
 

Biden talked about FDR on the TV with a straight face, but the MSM just ignored it.

Excuse me, but didn’t this interview happen on, you know, Dan Rather’s old program????

 
 

Oh, and then there’s this little tidbit:

“The Democratic vice presidential candidate’s mistake was picked up by the Associated Press and several other news organizations after the interview aired.”

 
Mark Foley (R)-FL (ex)
 

did any girl give you a haand job this weekend

 
 

I graduated near the bottom of my class.

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

She also believed she needed to be protected from witches through a blessing.

Which is either evidence that Katie Couric isn’t a witch, or that guy was full of shit.

Oh, the choices stress me so! One, the other, how to decide?!

 
 

Article I of the Constitution talks about the Executive Branch.

 
 

The French and NATO kicked Hizbollah out of Lebanon.

 
Dick Cheney in June 2005
 

The insurgency in Iraq is in its last throes.

 
 

The trolls today give me comfort in their desperation.

 
 

You can’t GO to a 7-11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent!

 
 

I’m Vice President of the United States, following Obama’s decisive victory over John McCain and Sarah Palin.

 
 

I plagarized a speech
Remember, class: ‘plagiarism’ without ‘I’ is a leading cause of epidemics.

 
 

Pampers, bitch!

 
 

Wow. The schaden really does freude itself!

 
 

Love child!

 
 

Abstinence only works!

I prefer absinthe, that’s just me.

 
 

I murdered hundreds of thousands of humans for oil co. & war profiteers. Mission Accomplished!

 
 

I paid a gay prostitute to fuck me up the ass.

 
George W. Bush
 

I looked Putin in the eye. Found him to be straightforward and trustworthy. Got a sense of his soul.

Now watch this drive!

 
 

I guess school just let out in Teh Assland.

 
 

Yeah, but did you snort meth off *his* ass?

 
 

I dumped my first wife because she couldn’t suck cock as well as Nancy.

 
 

Twoofie sed:
I graduated near as the bottom of my class.

 
John Sidney McCain III
 

I graduated nearat the bottom of my class.

 
 

The second Mrs. Reagan did have quite the reputation in Hollywood for that talent.

 
 

I used to snort cocaine with my brother Roger while I was in the Governor’s mansion.

I also used state troopers to round up women to have sex with me. But I support women’s rights!

 
Johnny "Wet Start" McCain
 

Ronald Reagan said,
May 5, 2009 at 23:07

I dumped my first wife because she couldn’t suck cock as well as Nancy.

I feel you, RR. When they can’t get you hard anymore just what the fuck good are they?

 
John Sidney McCain III
 

My father and grandfather were successful admirals.

I crashed six planes.

 
Johnny "Wet Start" McCain
 

Also, thank God for my daddy and granddaddy, or wrecking all those planes (not to mention the Forrestal unpleasantness) would have got me kicked out of the service before I could exploit my time as a POW.

 
 

at 17:41 El Cid said,

. . . . God only gets mad and intervenes when you touch His stuff without His permission. You can kill as many of His chosen people as you want, but just don’t open His Ark.

.

He must keep his journal in there.

 
 

I had phone sex with an intern the morning of my speech opening in the 1996 Olympics. Read the Starr Report!

 
 

The timing does support the “junior high let out for the day” theory.

 
 

Twoofie sed:
I graduated near as the bottom of my class.

PeeJ wins.

 
 

The timing does support the “junior high let out for the day” theory.

You forgot detention.

 
 

Still obsessing over the Clenis™. Poor inadequate ‘Pubs.

 
 

Isn’t it great that the troll has to go all the way back to Barney Frank and Bill Clinton to try to trump a negligent parent of a single teen mom who can’t speak English?

 
 

Mea culpa, Lil Pig, for the toe step.

 
 

I cost you libs the 2000 Election. If I had resigned, Al Gore would have won easily as a sitting President.

 
 

Mea culpa, Lil Pig, for the toe step.

Well, kinda throws the whole ‘stealth’ thing out of the window.

 
Big Bad Bald Bastard
 

Wow. The schaden really does freude itself!

The troll has the schaden without the freude.

Now, in honor of Cinco de Mayo, here’s the best thing Robert Rodriguez did since El Mariachi. Except, of course, for that bit o’ teh n00dity by Salma Hayek in Desperado.

 
Elliot Spitzer
 

Don’t forget me!

I’ll pay extra for a quick screw with no condom!

 
 

I had phone sex with an intern the morning of my speech opening in the 1996 Olympics which is more sex than most Republicans ever have.

 
 

Please tell the Douglas family I’m a little sorry for murdering their son.

 
George W. Bush
 

I put the “W” in AWOL!

And… done. Thanks, veal, tip, &c.

 
 

Bookmark this, libs. Here is how it will go down.

 
 

for the love of his Noodliness, can anybody around here resist teh “Statements from Opposition figures” version of trolling?

It’s very tiresome. I would say tres tiresome, if I wasn’t scared of starting the whole fake french thing up again.

 
Principal Blackman
 

Some see the dream ticket as Palin/Jindal.

And some of those folks do so unironically! Note the banner at the top.

 
 

I remember the bad old days when people actually thought governments had a limited amount of money and couldn’t afford to indulge every idea, even ones that seemed attractive. Praise be to our Dear Leader, with whom all things are possible…for a while.

You mean like giving tax cuts to the rich while at the same time prosecuting an agressive war against a country that posed no threat?

Wow. The Irony.

 
 

I did fucking win the 2000 election, did you forget that, asshole?

 
 

I quoted Neil Kinnock 100 times in speeches, forgot to attribute it once, and the right-wing noise machine hasn’t shut up about it to this fucking day!

 
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon
 

La souris est sous la chaise.

Le chat se repose au-dessus de la chaise.

Le singe est sur la branche.

La souris est mangée par le chat.

Le chat obstrue sur la souris.

Le singe rit du chat.

 
Lady Doctor Missus Marita
 

Well if everyone else is going to wander off topic, I will too. I feel the need to complain:

Bad Cold + Pregnancy = Serious Suckage

Back to your regularly scheduled troll feeding.

 
 

“Or how Obama said there were “57 states”.

Actually he said Heinz has 57 varieties.

 
Right-Wing Noise Machine
 

Silly Vice-President. Since when have we ever let anything drop, ever?

Christ, we’re like a dog with an old shoe. We still bring up Jane Fonda and Chappaquiddick every chance we get.

 
 

oo, Dr. MM, that has gotta be bad.

In good news, Tom Tomorrow has a children’s book coming out:

http://thismodernworld.com/4757

Plus, some very weird bloggers have a weird alphabet:

http://sayingyes.typepad.com/saying_yes/2009/05/were-already-up-to-p.html

 
 

From the Tom Tomorrow link: I landed with a small publisher, Ig
Another example of Ig-nominy.

My Dad used to say, “beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes all the way to the bone.”
My extensive observations allow me to say that this is not so.

 
 

Now that you mention it, Dad was a chemist at the USDA for much of that era, and usually tested meat, so he may well have been talking about a different set of skin and bones.

 
 

I think I saw the documentary about your family.

 
 

I’m still constantly amazed at how accurate the lack of empathy theory is for explaining right wingers (of all varities, as if there were any difference between the fundies and the libertarians on substance). They really have absolutely no ability to begin to grasp that other people aren’t exactly like them and that opposing viewpoints aren’t a matter of applying their wants and desires to “evil” rather than “good”.

It’s constatntly amazing how evident this principle is when they try and take down the assumed authority figures, assuming naturally that we are equally authoritarian in our hero worship and that legacy protection is the highest good. I think this is why they also see mockery as hate speech or “attacking” because when they pull the projection and the liberal looks at them sideways and begins cracking up, without that empathy to comprehend that another person may have a whole nother way of looking at the world, they have to justify it in their worldview. Thus, conspiracy theory filters wherein laughter are authoritarian counterattacks that are absent context.

I would almost feel sorry for these people. What a frightening world it must be to be that horrendous and literally unable to escape themselves as they displaced that by sheer deficiency on everyone they met. I can empathize, but I can only imagine how horrific that’d be on a mind not protected by the layers and layers of delusion they use.

On the original topic, I think we’re seeing the flare-up between the libertarian more money for the rich and the Rapture Ready crowd that has been threatening for awhile now. The Rapturists figured out that they were most of the base numbers and want some real control and the money crowd wants to block that not realizing that their own philosophy is just as discredited. As the base gets smaller, the Rapture crowd will have more and more power and I’m really hoping the money crowd keeps fighting the good fight so we can drown them both in the bathtub and allow a real leftist party to form.

 
 

“Who to Rassilon’s tower would go, must choose above, between, below.”

 
 

Despite my being a multi-medal winning genuine war hero who went out of his way to seek out a combat assignment, my reprehensible opponent portrayed me as a coward and convinced a large number of credulous morons that this was so.

 
 

I too am a war hero, but my opponent never once questioned it, and went out of his way to remind audiences all across America of my honorable service, while beating the paste out of me on the actual issues of which I had only the most tenuous grasp.

 
 

I faked my own injuries, exageratted my record, then lied before Congress about “war crimes” I could never substantiate. I also participated in a radical leftist group that once plotted the assassination of Richard Nixon, among other things.

I’m also a giant fucking loser with no political future left. I wasn’t even picked for Secretary of State!

 
 

I’ll be joining you in 2013, John!

 
 

Don’t worry Barack, being a failed one termer isn’t so bad. You can make a career out of hating Israel, for example.

 
 

After you pardon me at the last minute of your failed term, Barack, you could even get a radio show!

 
 

Ohh! Don’t forget me!

 
 

Will you come back to my Church once you no longer have to pretend not to agree with my sermons for political reasons? It’s lonely under this bus!

Oh, and GODDAMN AMERICA!!!!

 
 

We’ll always welcome you, Barack! Help us commit vote fraud!

 
Hans Von Spakovsky
 

Ha. You think you know about voter fraud. The real election rigging action is on the inside.

 
Ronald Reagan
 

I wasn’t sure I’d win, so I threw in a little treason by making a deal with a hostile foreign government holding American citizens to not release them until I was inaugurated.

Later, I would sell them weapons. Meanwhile, the morons who support and venerate me criticize the guy I beat for being insufficiently supportive of Israel.

 
 

I’m chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. I have more policy influence than all federally elected Republicans combined.

 
Newbie McNoob
 

Another way to see it would be as The Five Doctors, but instead of the first five guys who played Dr. Who, you hear that familiar scrapey, sireney sound, and out of a materialized Port-a-San comes Haley Barbour, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, John McCain, and Mitt Romney.

In one of the new series episodes, the Daleks planned the “destruction of reality itself”:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey's_End_(Doctor_Who)

Sounds like the potential 2012 GOP platform to me.

 
Newbie McNoob
 

I hate it when a link I post breaks. Oh well, copy and paste in address bar if you want to. Or skip it. Either way I can’t be arsed to repost it.

 
 

Don’t stop now, Republicans! Stay on this winning path!

 
Newbie McNoob
 

…but instead of the first five guys who played Dr. Who, you hear that familiar scrapey, sireney sound, and out of a materialized Port-a-San comes Haley Barbour, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, John McCain, and Mitt Romney

Even though I’m not a Sarah Jane Smith fan, the above analogy is semi-tolerable so long as Sarah Palin isn’t likened to Sarah Jane Smith,

 
 

I knew terrorists were going to attack America, but I let it happen anyway.

 
 

I have single handedly discovered the exact point of origin of the “Swine flu”.
It’s Rush ” Radio Daycare” Limbaugh. Can anyone name a bigger, filthier Neo-con
Fascist PIG? He’s the “Original Omnivorous Ungulate”.

 
 

I really like what you guys are up too. This kind of clever work and coverage!
Keep up the excellent works guys I’ve included you guys to my personal blogroll.

 
 

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