Wheels Within Wheels
“Special” Ed Morrissey, HotAir:
New DHS folly: The Domestic Extremism Lexicon
- This Department of Homeland Security document describes extremists across the political spectrum. Perhaps it will wake up the left to Napolitano’s noxious singling-out of conservative Americ…OMG, why aren’t the Muslims in here?1
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“Homeland Security Reference Aids—prepared by the DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A)—provide baseline information on a variety of homeland security issues. This product is one in a series of reference aids designed to provide operational and intelligence advice and assistance to other elements of DHS, as well as state, local, and regional fusions centers. DHS/I&A intends this background information to assist federal, state, local, and tribal homeland security and law enforcement officials in conducting analytic activities. This product provides definitions for key terms and phrases that often appear in DHS analysis that addresses the nature and scope of the threat that domestic, non-Islamic extremism poses to the United States. Definitions were derived from a variety of open source materials and unclassified information, then further developed during facilitated workshops with DHS intelligence analysts knowledgeable about domestic, non-Islamic extremism in the United States.”
When can we open the FEMA camps? I want one of those cool berets.
That picture remind anybody else of Bobby Darin in that movie where he was a Nazi mental patient–was it Captain Newman, M. D. with Gregory Peck?
So — domestic Islamic extremists get to have their very own lexicon! I bet ACORN members are getting paid good money ($5 billion at least) to collate and staple the pages. Hmmpf.
I actually clicked to Hot Air because I could not believe that even Cap’n Ed would miss something so obvious.
DAMN YOU S,N! OVERLORDS! HE DID!
This product provides definitions for key terms and phrases that often appear in DHS analysis that addresses the nature and scope of the threat that domestic, non-Islamic extremism poses to the United States.
This, of course, proves his point.
Read the DHS report. It says nothing about H1N1
Oh come on! You can’t expect whoever reads these things to Capt. Ed to go through all of the footnotes and appendixes and introductions. Do you really think Ed pays the kind of money to the people who do his reading and typing for him that would make them willing to slog through all that ephemera like definitions of terms of the whole report? Sadly, no.
Sort of know the movie you mean. Not Captain Newman. Wasn’t Sidney Poitier the Darin character’s head-candler? It was B&W, wasn’t it?
You could look it up, but why bother?
And I’m sure “Special” Ed’s point is that it’s wrong for any attention at all to be be paid to any “non-Islamic” threat, which doesn’t ever exist, so shut up already.
Bu-but! Everyone knows Mooslims is the only kind of terrists there is!!! Timothy McVeigh became a stealth Mooslim after Nobama slipped him a roofie and hipmatized him by making him watch Shaft movies for six days strait!!!!!!!
Pressure Point. Bobby Darin as a Nazi, Sidney Poitier as his doctor. Captain Newman was also about a psych ward, but no Nazi in that one.
Wasn’t someone reminiscing the other day about Ten Years After?
Glossaries make me angry.
You know what would be fun?
If we could somehow slip into DHS’ domestic right-wing extremist ooga-booga report something along the lines of “pay special attention to online voices of the right who suggest that a focus on domestic right-wing extremists is proof of goverment fascism. Said beliefs inevitably lead to domestic right-wing extremist terrorism.”
I love the title of this post by Malkin on HotAir:
“Now I’m A Domestic Extremist”
Can you imagine? (cue one of the famous pictures of her with her teeth exposed, lips curled back and eyes bulging)
Maybe you libs have never considered that conservatives have to use a different internet, more imaginary, which wasn’t developed with taxpayer dollars, and so there aren’t all these “links” to DHS reports and whatnot, there are only more clicks that reveal more fears.
the title of this post by Malkin on HotAir:
“Now I’m A Domestic Extremist”
Hey, SHE said it, we didn’t.
Seriously, I’d be interested to see the “spectrum” of domestic threats. Here’s how I envision it – on the Right, militias and the “patriot” groups (or their present-day equivalents), secessionists, white supremacists, anti-tax radicals. On the Left, Earth First! and animal liberationists, the Black Bloc (who’re more anarchist than Left but hey, why split hairs).
Now here’s the challenge – show me any way in which the Left threat groups have been mainstreamed into the Democratic Party, or even the average Left media outlet in this country, to the same extent in which the Right’s threat groups have been mainstreamed in the Republican Party and their media, what with Michelle “Violent Overthrow” Bachmann, Rick “Secession Now” Perry, teabaggers throwing boxes at the White House – and I’m not even going to bother pointing out the talk shows; that should be obvious by now.
So, really, which should we be more concerned about?
Do you have exact change? Because I was promised some.
Have they begun yet building centrifuges so to concentrate tea into its most dangerous form?
Pere Ubu said …
Well, Rick Perry does have really good hair. Have you considered that?
“Now I’m A Domestic Extremist”
she finally admits it.
Have they begun yet building centrifuges so to concentrate tea into its most dangerous form?
They have not yet managed to acheive highly-enriched, weapons-grade stoopidium, but they are getting closer every day.
About half the comments at Hot Air seem to be jibes at Chuck Johnson of Little Green Footballs. (He apparently also caught the error of expecting to find definitions of various forms of domestic Islamic terrorist threats in a lexicon that specifically excluded domestic Islamic terrorist threats.)
The right wing bloggers are certainly going all Judean People’s Front/People’s Judean Front etc.
The right wing bloggers are certainly going all Judean People’s Front/People’s Judean Front etc.
Here’s to them continuing on this illustrious path which is sure to bring them success and a position of political power.
What we need are people who can make the various right wing bloggers think they are being spied on and monitored.
Splitters!!!!
When the right has gone so far off the rails that Charles-fucking-Johnson is becoming a voice of sanity … oy.
Johnson calls it “another round of screaming at the DHS” and says Captain Ed’s position is “completely off the rails.” Copy and paste if you want to read the post.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33547_Another_Round_of_Screaming_at_the_DHS_Begins
He’s also featured in this piece on the previous outrageous DHS outrage, which means he’s gone over to the Other Side.
Piece of cake. A few posts every day to various right wing fora with the magic phrase “A have a friend with the FBI and he says” and Bob’s your uncle.
This product provides definitions for key terms and phrases that often appear in DHS analysis that addresses the nature and scope of the threat that domestic, non-Islamic extremism poses to the United States.
To periphrase Capt Jack Sparrow, “But why aren’t the Muslims in here?”
What we need are people who can make the various right wing bloggers think they are being spied on and monitored.
Drop the word “Carnivore” into your posts. That will get their attention.
Have they begun yet building centrifuges so to concentrate tea into its most dangerous form?
And serve it with yellow cakes.
Wow. Special Ed’s really let himself go to shit, huh?
Johnny Pez said,
Piece of yellow cake.
Fzed.
Wonder when it’ll dawn on them that the vast vacuumcleaner of eavesdropping that Bush handed the NSA undoubtedly swept up a lot of their emails, cellphone calls, and blog comments?
I prefer ECHELON. I see that its Wikipedia article includes the absolutely fantastic acronym AUSCANZUKUS, which just has to be bullshit.
When you read Special Ed it’s like you can feel your own FBI file shrinking.
When you read Special Ed it’s like you can feel your own FBI file shrinking.
I’ve never heard it called that before
Wonder when it’ll dawn on them that the vast vacuumcleaner of eavesdropping that Bush handed the NSA undoubtedly swept up a lot of their emails, cellphone calls, and blog comments?
When, as they are being dragged away by the fiery minions of Satan, they ask “But how come us??!?!?!?!?!?!?”
Ouch.
Johnson’s response gets as many or more comments than Special Ed’s original post does – in the comment-thread of his original post … poor ol’ Special … pretty much seems like if he set himself on fire his “fans” would be using the light from the flames to read LGF by.
Oh no no no – not just NOW, honeypie … just ask Rachael Ray … or Students Against War … or Graeme Frost.
Thinking about Michelle Malkin being water-boarded makes my “FBI File” get all hard and throbby. Knowhuttimean
Yes, but are you masters of your FBI file?
I call my FBI File “J. Edgar.”
I call my FBI File “J. Edgar.”
What a lucky coincidence! Special Ed calls his asshole “Clyde.”
I call my FBI File “J. Edgar.”
This gives a whole new meaning to J. Edgar Hoover.
It certainly gives new meaning to wire tap.
Hoover? Why, I hardly know her!
I’d guess there’d be mass redefinitions of torture by the wingnuts if they ever faced the prospect of tasting their own medicine.
I’d guess there’d be mass redefinitions of torture by the wingnuts if they ever faced the prospect of tasting their own medicine.
You know it. Look at the mass whiplash they’ve gotten on issues like Unitary Executive Ultimate Power Go! since the Dhimmicrats got back in.
Maybe Malkin prefers to be an extremist domestic.
They have not yet managed to acheive highly-enriched, weapons-grade stoopidium, but they are getting closer every day.
Waiting until they actually have built a stoopidium weapon is the height of recklessness. Send them to the FEMA camps now before we are treated to a mushroom cloud of stoopid. Also, blart.
Too funny. It’s a really weird subset of the population which can so easily link right wing views on Constitutional power and the Executive branch and anime etc references.
I thought Ed was a big fan of acts of Hooverism. If you know what I mean and I think you do.
A good portmanteau for domestic extremist: Dominastrist
Not to mention, the pressing need for up or down votes on Supreme Court nominees.
Remember this?
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PS – The Carnivore wiki has few minor errors, some of omission. The echelon wiki is similarly afflicted. Anyway, Carnivore isn’t dead. Echelon ate it and it still lives inside Echelon, like an evil alien parasite.
I have no idea how I know any of that. I did not make this comment.
Anyway, Carnivore isn’t dead. Echelon ate it and it still lives inside Echelon, like an evil alien parasite.
Yes, but if you can make them think the whole Echelon thing was a diversion and that Carnivore is the real true thing to be worried about….
You know, I was looking at the pics of the gun show in Kentucky that someone linked to here t’ other day, and I was realizing something.
One the one hand, you’ve got the OBAMA=HITLER clowns and their wankering – but mere yards away you had guys selling Nazi memorabilia and gadding about in SS uniforms, the typical gun show Nation Socialist “Hitler was a great leader” Holocaust-denier types. And there doesn’t seem to have been any problem between the one and the other. It’s like some weird ahistorical “Nazis bad but fascism good” thing going on. And maybe I just answered my own question, there.
It’s like some weird ahistorical “Nazis bad but fascism good” thing going on.
To me it seems exactly the opposite: Nazis good but fascism bad. You know, the liberal fascism that makes you wear a seat belt and keeps you from smoking cigarettes whenever and wherever you want, as opposed to the historical kind with the cool tight-fitting uniforms and the eyepatches and Lugers and stuff.
To me it seems exactly the opposite: Nazis good but fascism bad. You know, the liberal fascism that makes you wear a seat belt and keeps you from smoking cigarettes whenever and wherever you want, as opposed to the historical kind with the cool tight-fitting uniforms and the eyepatches and Lugers and stuff.
You know, you’re probably right.
Maybe their insistence on an equivalence between non-smoking laws and the Shoah is somehow an attempt on their part to demean the crimes of fascism – that if someone (supposedly) sane can make a comparison like that it wasn’t that big a deal back in ’45. It still croggles the mind though to think that their side is so unconcerned about the Nazi sympathizers whileat the same time they’re predicting death camps for Christians and Obama’s imminent announcement of National Socialism.
BTW, I think I’ve finally figured out the weird connection between SF fans and Libertarianism, in case anyone’s interested.
OK, PB, I’ll bite. what’s the connection, besides both groups being snobby jerks?
OK, PB, I’ll bite. what’s the connection, besides both groups being snobby jerks?
Ah. Here’s my theeeeeeeory. MAH THEROY LET ME SHOW YOU IT…
*ahem*
SF fans are, at heart, technophiles. So naturally, of course, they can’t throw in with the Left, since we’re all nature-boys and tree huggers and computer center bombers and hippy-dippy barefoot slimeballs, even though they smoke pot and have lots of sex (basically the Left is still hippy-’60s to them). They can’t go Anarchist, ’cause they’re convinced anarchists hate technology as well. So they have to lean Right, but the social conservatives are all a bunch of Creationists and no-sex fanatics and anti-drug crusaders. So the only political philosophy left is, of course, Libertarianism, which will let them have pot and sex and STILL keep their cool techno-toys.
Q.E.D.
The “I should be able to smoke wherever the fuck I want and fuck anyone who doesn’t like it” crowd is politically diverse. You may see proof of that shortly.
Q.E.D.
Not bad! That does explain a lot.
That Libertarian crap could have happened to me, if I hadn’t fallen in with the hippie crowd in college and discovered that I liked them, technophobes though they were. I helped them get their papers printed out on those newfangled Macintosh things, they introduced me to sex, drugs, and the Dead. It was a really happy bit of diplomacy.
…and oh yes, the hippie folks taught me that human beings were actually pretty cool and that it was a good thing to be nice to everyone. My parents had brought me up believing much the same, but in a much icier, more calculating way, if you could but dig it.
What’s SF?
I iz stoopid.
Shorter wingnut-gun-nut-fruitnut: If they won’t stop calling us right-wing extremist, we may just have to overthrow the government.
What’s SF?
Science Fiction.
…although these days a lot of them are calling it “Speculative Fiction”, so “SF” fits both better than the oldy “Sci-Fi” label.
SF = science fiction
Super Fly!
What’s fun is the fact that the Glibertarians never stop to think about the Left of the 20’s and 30’s that in some ways was just as technophilic as they are – case-in-point, Huxley’s Brave New World, whic he wrote partially as a satire on the technopile utopias that writers such as H.G. Wells predicted.
I would characterize that attitude as more anarcho-nihilism, but I guess that’s as good a definition of Libertarianism as any.
I would characterize that attitude as more anarcho-nihilism, but I guess that’s as good a definition of Libertarianism as any.
Pretty much. Libertarianism is, more or less, anarcho-nihilism plus hero-worship of rich people.
Libertarianism is sublimated self-hatred by people who can’t quite bring themselves to hate themselves consciously.
anarcho-nihilism plus hero-worship of rich people.
I think of it more as anarcho-captialism with a strong thread of oligarchy, particularly among Objectivists. And you gotta kiss up to the rich – that’s where all the money for your cool toys comes from! (q.v. any Heinelein story from the 1950’s)
So the only political philosophy left is, of course, Libertarianism, which will let them have pot and sex and STILL keep their cool techno-toys.
I have a problem with the whole defintion of Libertarianism in popular culture
For me, the quintessence (go ahead, I couldn’t think of a better word) of libertarianism is the protection of individual rights. That doesn’t mean limiting government because in most instances, government is not as big a problem as the morons around me who create collective “governance” in the form of large corporations and other societal structures which THEN seek to limit my rights (like, say, a co-op board telling me I can only put large pieces of furniture out on alternate Wednesdays for collection, shit like that).
If anything, government’s job is to clear shit like that out of my way so I can enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of yadayada without worrying that my neighbors will tell me I can’t watch porn anymore in my living room with the big plate glass window.
“So the only political philosophy left is, of course, Libertarianism, which will let them have pot and sex and STILL keep their cool techno-toys.”
Interesting, but too simplistic IMO. Geeks love Libertarianism because they believe in a meritocracy and they assume that given a level playing field, we could achieve a utopia where the cream would rise to the top. Usually, they’re too young and inexperienced to realize that the field ain’t level and that some folks would go out of their way to be deceitful in order to get ahead.
To turn Churchill’s words on their head: Any geek who doesn’t have a little libertarian in them before age 30 has no heart; any geek who isn’t ‘way over libertarianism after age 40 has no head.
Thinking about Michelle Malkin being water-boarded makes my “FBI File” get all hard and throbby. Knowhuttimean
I’d guess there’d be mass redefinitions of torture by the wingnuts if they ever faced the prospect of tasting their own medicine.
Urban Dictionary could not help me with “tasting your own medicine”. Is it a variant of snowballing?
Urban Dictionary could not help me with “tasting your own medicine”. Is it a variant of snowballing?
I think it’s more like a selfer than that.
What’s fun is the fact that the Glibertarians never stop to think about the Left of the 20’s and 30’s that in some ways was just as technophilic as they are
Yes, and writers tend to be technophobic, going back to Hawthorne and before. (The evil husband in “The Scarlet Letter” was a “natural philosopher,” i.e., scientist.) God knows I’m no expert on SF, but it seems like the genre evolved partly in response to that attitude.
…without worrying that my neighbors will tell me I can’t watch porn anymore in my living room with the big plate glass window.
Why can’t you live in my building?
Why can’t you live in my building?
Because your kind keep my kind out.
I’ve always preferred Bob Black’s old saying: that a libertarian is just a Republican who takes drugs, as more fully expounded upon here.
To turn Churchill’s words on their head…
Just FYI, Churchill never said the original quote. I mention this only because righties love to pull that one out of their memory ass and wave it in our faces.
One told me once that it didn’t matter that Churchill didn’t say it; it’s true, by jiminy!
Yes, but if you can make them think the whole Echelon thing was a diversion and that Carnivore is the real true thing to be worried about…
The thing with public knowledge about ECHELON is that everything comes from a single source, Nicky Hagar’s book. And when you read the book, there’s an imbalance in the coverage that makes it clear that a lot of his inside information came from a single proverbial disgruntled ex-employee — someone who was working on the data-interception side and only had his own vague ideas about what the data were used for.later.
I know Nicky — his daughter used to go to the same school as our doktorling — and bless his heart and all, but he’s better at wheedling confidences out of people than he is at assembling them into a coherent picture. And don’t get me started on the tendentious tangle of knee-jerk half-baked ideas that he uses instead of a historical background.
Anyway, everything since then about ECHELON (like the EU report) has simply recycled assertions from Nicky’s book about what the code-word means — because there aren’t any other sources. Suppose his informant guessed wrong about these code-words he overheard. The UKUSA-affiliated three-letter-agencies aren’t going to go out of their way to correct any misconceptions.
it was actually Clemenceau. “Any man who is not a communist when he is young has no heart. Any man that is still a communist when he is no longer young has no head.”
But righties a) hate quoting anyone who is French and b) never heard of Clemenceau.
I’ve heard that same quote attributed to Nietzsche, Joseph de Maistre and God knows who else. It’s right-wing piffle—a breezy way of asserting that convervatism is oh so much more mature than any political philosophy that incorporates concern for others.
Nice theory on SF, but precisely backwards, I think. Libertarians tend to be SF fans for exactly the reason you say. SF fans who would naturally tend to lean right find that libertarianism is pretty much the only choice that is not deeply anti-technofilic.
SF fans, however, do not tend to be libertarians, as a group. I’ve found they mostly tend to be liberals. The ability to really ‘get’ the idea of alien cultures and approve of them implies a level of empathy that simply doesn’t exist among the libertarian types.
I’ll grant you that military SF authors tend to be libertarians, as their idea of a really good thing to do with an alien culture is to blow it up big … but here again, I’m pretty hardcore liberal and I love the stuff … with the exception, of course, of most of John Ringo…
-me
But righties a) hate quoting anyone who is French and b) never heard of Clemenceau.
That’s that “mime” guy, right?
I was quoting a right wing friend.
Nah, actor, Clemenceau was that Mexican baseball player who got killed in that plane crash back in the ’70s.
Nah, actor, Clemenceau was that Mexican baseball player who got killed in that plane crash back in the ’70s.
Oh see, I thought that was the sweet small orange fruit from Spain.
Isn’t Clemenceau the Inspector from the Pink Panther movies?
I thought he was dictator of Romania.
Isn’t Clemenceau the Inspector from the Pink Panther movies?
No, moran, that was Jacques Cousteau.
Oh see, I thought that was the sweet small orange fruit from Spain.
You’re thinking of Federico García Lorca.
You’re thinking of Federico García Lorca.
Didn’t Elbert Hubbard leave a message for him?
No, moran, that was Jacques Cousteau.
Ah the French playwright!
Ah the French playwright!
Don’t you mean “playwrite”? You can’t wright a play the way you can wright, say, iron.
Don’t you mean “playwrite”?
Tonite, you’re rite.
No, moran, that was Jacques Cousteau.
Wait, the Pink Panther invented Scuba diving?
Ah the French playwright!
Blaise Pascal? But I thought he was a computer programmer.
Blaise Pascal was the punk-rock guy on Square Pegs
Wow, Blaise Pascal was Captain Kirk’s son? That is so cool!
Ah. Here’s my theeeeeeeory. MAH THEROY LET ME SHOW YOU IT…
http://stuffgeekslove.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/libertarianism/
For some reason you never hear the past participle, “playwrought”.
Urban Dictionary could not help me with “tasting your own medicine”. Is it a variant of snowballing?
I think it’s more like a selfer than that.
Ah well, sauce for the goose = sauce for the gander.
I seen some plays that were a little overwrought.
Who was Blaise Pascals mother?
A vulcan I bet.
So by time travel, Kirk was Spocks father, since Pascal = Spock in Basic code.
Who was Blaise Pascals mother?
Modesty Blaise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modesty_Blaise
I’m with Optional: I’m an SF fan, but politically tend to be in the bottom left quadrant of the political compass, with the likes of Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama.
SF has a lot of good stuff, particularly if you pass right by the “golden age” writers like Heinlein (eeuuuurch): more socio-political analysis and much less blowing things up.
For doubters – Margaret Atwood’s The Handmaid’s Tale classifies as SF, in the finest sense.
For some reason you never hear the past participle, “playwrought”.
You’ve never seen me torture Pinter’s work.
You’ve never seen me torture Pinter’s work.
Isn’t Pinter’s work tortured enough already?
Isn’t Pinter’s work tortured enough already?
Not for Pinter.
I remember seeing a Pinter play when I was a youngster. There was a lot of pregnant pausing, with the male and female characters (husband and wife?) facing different directions. During one lengthy silence I thought “I could write this.”
LAST!!!