“I was someone who was trying to apolitical the past 4 years until I took a good look at what was going on, and I was laid off last week and currently unemployed.”

There’s so much cognitive dissonance packed into this single fucking sentence I think it might rip a hole in the universe.

So pwned.

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We’re not corporate lobbyists. We just do their dirty work.

I forgot how much I love Sadly, No!

Hilarious!

Could someone explain the political philosophy or goals of the teabagging movement?

‘Cause last time I checked, it was us far-lefties who pretty much had the market cornered on the whole we’re not paying for your crisis thing. What exactly has Obammy done that conservatives think is so naughty?

LAUGHING AT JANE HAMSHER: “Heh heh, what’s this crazy broad talking about anyway don’t look at my links don’t look at my links don’t look at my links? It’s not like I’ve ever gotten a check for my wingnut welfare, unlike SOROS MEDIA MATTERS badoodle-boo-yeah!” Coming soon: The “Tea Party” protests originate in Roswell, New Mexico. Wokka-wokka! Nyuk nyuk nyuk. Heh x10^5! Meanwhile, Hamsher ducks an interview in DC. Yeah, we got her good! Anyway, this is central to my point that the Tea Parties are organic, unlike Obama who SOROS MEDIA MATTERS interesting if true. Heh. Also, Heh.

Clap your hands!

Granite countertops. An excellent start for GaltsList.

The whole educated world is laughing at Instarube, so he has to imagine someone is laughing at one of his tormentors.

The real Truthers, a not insignificant slice of teabaggers I’d bet, aren’t gonna like seeing their handle used to mock the left’s lies about teabaggers, do you think?

I’ve stepped in smarter cat yak. But it was gooey.

The big Teabagging Party here in Atlanta has been sponsored/promoted endlessly by Hannity and our local wingnut shouting head AM station (the home of Boortz).

Grassroots? Ehm, no. I don’t know who he thinks he’s fooling, or why he would even try.

I’m curious if the party’s location in downtown Atlanta will keep the Birther/Bircher factions away. A tip, ‘Baggers, unless you want to pay a mint for parking smack in the middle of downtown, you should (gasp) take MARTA. But that wouldn’t be very Galt of you.

Anyone know if Putz was insisting the pre-Iraq War, Clear Channel-sponsored “freedom rallies” were grassroots as well? I don’t feel like going thru his archives.

Just as we on the right undersetimated the online wave that swept BO into office, you liberals are now mocking the strongest grass roots movement our nation has seen in decades. This is the natural outgrowth of the tax revlots that have been simmering on the libertarian right for years.

April 15th will be a big day, libs.

OT, but you Sadlies should know: Wonkette is stealin’ your stuff, without attribution.

Awww. Just read Ye Olde Perf’s column in the Post. It’s every bit as ridiculous as I expected.

A kind of energy our politics hasn’t seen lately.

It’s like Election ’08 never happened!

Then CNBC talker Rick Santelli delivered his “rant heard ’round the world,”

It’s like Jon Stewart’s Week-Of-Destroying-CNBC never happened!

These aren’t the usual semiprofessional protesters who attend antiwar and pro-union marches. These are people with real jobs

Real jobs = Being paid by the state to say Heh and Indeed all day.

They represent a kind of energy that our politics hasn’t seen lately

I love how he keeps peppering his column with lines like this. What does this even mean? Really, what does it mean?

In the short run, this is likely to provide at least a bit of resistance to the borrow-and-spend-like-there’s-no-tomorrow approach that now governs Washington.

Supported, in full, by one Glenn H. Reynolds, as long as a Republican was in the White House.

In the longer run, they’re likely to be a source of new energy and enthusiasm in politics — bringing in a lot of voters, organizers and even candidates from among those who were previously on the sidelines.

Keep ignoring the poll numbers. Served you well last fall.

It’s your chance to be part of an authentic popular protest movement, one that just might save America from the greed and ineptitude of the folks who have been running it into the ground.

Can a wingnut get a Badoodle-boo-yeah up in here?

Had to hire security..I wonder why, for a grass roots assembly.

Just as those on the right once mocked Daily Kos and MoveOn who later swept BO into power, you libs are now mocking the strongest grass roots tax revolt this nation has ever seen (at least since the days of the Founders). This is the natural outgrowth of tax revolts that have been simmering on the libertarian right for years, and are about to explode.

I have a sign I’m bring to my Tea Party Rally that says:

1.20.13 THE END OF SOCIALISM

Because that’s where this will lead!

Just as those on the right once mocked Daily Kos and MoveOn who later swept BO into power, you libs are now mocking the strongest grass roots tax revolt this nation has ever seen (at least since the days of the Founders). This is the natural outgrowth of tax revolts that have been simmering on the libertarian right for years, and are about to explode.

I have a sign I’m bring to my Tea Party Rally that says:

1.20.13 THE END OF SOCIALISM

Because that’s where this will lead! To the end of BO, the End of Socialism, and a new Conservative Era.

Bookmark @ 0:20.

We were, um, in the bathroom for the past 8 years.

Jennifer—

Actually they did attribute the picture the first time they used it, complete with a link to the post it appeared in.

George W. Bush was a tax cutter.

And didn’t spend a dime over what was necessary, either! Doop-de-doo-de-deedily-ding-dong-doodly-heh.

Jane is such a coward, telling the wingnuts she’ll answer their question after listening to the speaker and never finding those wingnuts afterwards because they left.

Hamsher = coward!!!!

Bob Owens is my Homeboy.

Simba – well at least they did that. But they should attribute it every time they use it.

Could someone explain the political philosophy or goals of the teabagging movement?

The goals are mainly to carry water for Koch, a right-wing billionaire. The vast majority of ‘tea party’ websites and groups were set up using a prearranged template before Santelli’s “rant” and put online after, with the solitary exception of the “chicago tea party”, which Sadly-noted e-technologies flack Odom set up in 2007 for a campaign-season Obama attack line that never wound up getting used. (Presumably, considering the desperation evident in throwing out the Scary Arab without having Lieberman on the ticket, because it was so fucking stupid even McCain’s people didn’t want to risk it.)

The relevant link is Is Rick Santelli Sucking Koch? (The answer is yes.)

This is why people call this ‘astroturf’. It’s astroturfy even by the normal standards of the right – almost everyone involved is there either paid or as a devoted volunteer from corporate lobbyists or Republican shell firms. It’s the equivalent of the anti-war movement’s prime/exclusive movers being the DNC and Google.

I would ascribe an ideology to it, but it doesn’t have one. It’s just corporate-bankrolled obscurantism cheered on by habitual toadies and corporate butt-buddies. Nothing more.

“It’s your chance to be part of an authentic popular protest movement, one that just might save America from the greed and ineptitude of the folks blacks who have been running it into the ground.”

FTFY, Glenn. Greed and ineptitude is apparently no problem when a white Republican is the prez.

“The goals are mainly to carry water for Koch, a right-wing billionaire.”

A conspiracy theory promoted by anti-semitic loons who rave about the “Kochtopus”. It’s Trutherism, plaina nd simple.

Just because you need ACORN and Media Matters Astrotruf, don’t project that on us.

Just as those on the right once mocked Daily Kos and MoveOn who later swept BO into power

You’re off the script, Twoofie. Every good wingnut knows it was ACORN and George Soros that stole the election for Ladysmith Black Hussein X.

And didn’t spend a dime over what was necessary, either! Doop-de-doo-de-deedily-ding-dong-doodly-heh.

Please, if you feel compelled to answer the troll in any capacity, use a handle starting with ‘St. Jesus’. It is difficult to killfile it out otherwise.

(On the same score, I’d strongly advise the powers that Sadly to consider banning the troll’s IP for a few weeks whenever he starts acting like a fucking gimmick.)

Sure, Troofus. The Douchebag Parties will End The Obama Administration, just like liberal protests forced Dubya to formally abdicate the presidency. Another useful idiot too devoted to the bidding of his white-collar overlords to realize he’s getting a tax cut.

What exactly has Obammy done that conservatives think is so naughty?

Got elected President of the United States in a landslide.

“A conspiracy theory promoted by anti-semitic loons…”
Because saying George Soros controls the Em Ess Em is soooo different. Bookmark it, yids!

I see Troofy’s using me again.

“Got elected President of the United States in a landslide.”

It wasn’t a landslide. A solid victory, but not a Reagan or Nixon 49 state sweep.

What exactly has Obammy done that conservatives think is so naughty?

Presidenting While Black.

What exactly has Obammy done that conservatives think is so naughty?

Got elected President of the United States in a landslide.

Mind you, making policy, legislating, or even appearing on TV are also notoriously uppity behaviors. If he would just do the civil thing and move to the back of the White House, they’d have nothing to complain about.

Please, if you feel compelled to answer the troll in any capacity, use a handle starting with ‘St. Jesus’. It is difficult to killfile it out otherwise.

My b.

Just because you need ACORN and Media Matters Astrotruf, don’t project that on us.

Oh, shut the fuck UP already. You never even knew a group with the acronym ACORN existed until the last presidential election, and now they’re the cause of all evil in the world. Why? Because Faux News, Rush Limbaugh, and the usual lying bleaters told you so. I’m sure you’ve never even looked at their website. You pathetic fucking brain dead moron.

i feel sad for tools. i dont like feeling sad. why do they like being tools?

Because saying George Soros controls the Em Ess Em is soooo different.

Of course it is. George Soros’s Emm Ess Emm is an anti-Semitic conspiracy against Pat Robertson, Chuck Hagee, and other friends of Israel. It might be possible to fix the horrible attitudes of these vicious anti-Semites by spraypainting reminders of their liberal fascist tendencies – swastikas, say – on their houses of worship, but only if you do it a lot.

He didn’t win in a landslide.

It was a solid victory, but no Reagan or Nixon-style 49 state sweep.

He didn’t win in a landslide.

It was a solid victory, but no Reagan or Nixon-style 49 state sweep. Sorry.

PS: I think throwing millions of dollars at Birch Society toadies to give them a forum to rant about Jewish doctors poisoning Aryan youth with vaccinations kind of disqualifies you from outrage at anti-Semitism. Call it a gut feeling, you know?

Mind you, making policy, legislating, or even appearing on TV are also notoriously uppity behaviors.

As is having a consistant 60-65% approval rating. Obamahitler’s evil knows no bounds.

How could anti-Obama activists ever be anti-Semites? I’M among them!

I bet they’ll be pretty big, these “tax protesting Teabagging’ things.

And they’ll mean nothing.

The lack of interest beyond the people who participated in them (who, tone deaf as ever, lack the understanding that no one believes them because they didn’t do SHIT for the last 8 years before there was a Democrat in the White House, which was elected to govern differently than the previous administration — which again, was widely supported by the teabaggers even though they were a government run amok.).

And sure, l some elected liberals are overreacting to the teabagging movement. But they should be able to make as loud a peaceful ruckus as they like, free from infiltration from black people or anyone else they deem undesirable. And I really hope the folks who were going to go to the now-cancelled San Antonio event will still have something somewhere. Maybe even on their own couch.

I don’t see why you Sadlies are focusing so much on irrelevant extremists like Glenn Reynolds when you should be accosting your fellow libs who are all funded by Soros and Media Matters. Also, something about my own libertarianism absolving me of any wrongdoing.

For those too lazy to read:

But it’s the Alliance’s scrubbing of their link to Koch that is most telling. A cached page, erased on February 16, just three days before Santelli’s rant, shows that the Alliance also wanted to cover up its ties to the Koch family. The missing link was an announcement that students interested in applying for internships to the Sam Adams Alliance could also apply through the “Charles G. Koch Summer Fellow Program” through the Institute for Humane Studies, a Koch-funded rightwing institute designed to scout and nurture future leaders of corporate libertarian ideology. (See hi-resolution screenshots here.) The top two board directors at the Sam Adams Alliance include two figures with deep ties to Koch-funded programs: Eric O’Keefe, who previously served in Koch’s Institute for Humane Studies and the Club For Growth; and Joseph Lehman, a former communications VP at Koch’s Cato Institute.

All of these are ultimately linked up to Koch’s Freedom Works mega-beast. Freedomworks.org has drawn fire in the past for using fake grassroots internet campaigns, called “astroturfing,” to push for pet Koch projects such as privatizing social security. A New York Times investigation in 2005 revealed that a “regular single mom” paraded by Bush’s White House to advocate for privatizing social security was in fact FreedomWorks’ Iowa state director. The woman, Sandra Jacques, also fronted another Iowa fake-grassroots group called “For Our Grandchildren,” even though privatizing social security was really “For Koch And Wall Street Fat Cats.”

If you log into FreedomWorks.org today, its home page features a large photo of Rick Santelli pointing at the viewer like Uncle Sam, with the words: “Are you with Rick? We Are. Click here to learn more.”

Here is the scrubbed Koch-SAA link.

If the Koch dynasty had blown up the World Trade Center, you would know it because they’d attempt to blame it on elderly welfare queens and use it as a pretext to invade Venezuela, the nerve center for Social Security in the West.

What exactly has Obammy done that conservatives think is so naughty?

Got elected President of the United States in a landslide.

While black.

That’s exactly the kind of documented proof HITLER would provide!

Sorry,JK47. Didn’t scroll down far enough.

“Raging Elephants”? Conservatards are so cute when they try to make their little jolly pirate clubs. “Gathering of Eagles,” “Raging Elephants.” They’re just so macho.

But, but, but… cable boxes are brainwashing us!

The new cable boxes. Apparently the old ones didn’t work.

Though it would explain a lot.

FreedomWorks, along with scores of shady front organizations which don’t have to disclose their sponsors thanks to their 501 (c)(3) status, has been at the heart of today’s supposed grassroots, nonpartisan “tea party” protests across the country, supposedly fueled by scores of websites which masquerade as amateur/spontaneous projects, but are suspiciously well-crafted and surprisingly well-written. One slick site pushing the tea parties, Right.org claims, “Right.org is a grassroots online community created by a few friends who were outraged by the bailouts. So we gathered some talent and money and built this site. Please tell your friends, and if you have suggestions for improving it, please let us know. Respectfully, Evan and Duncan.” But funny enough, these regular guys are offering a $27,000 prize for an “anti-bailout video competition.” Who are Evan and Duncan? Do they even really exist?

See, this gets to the heart of the matter: ‘Evan and Duncan’ is a level of sophistication removed from the mountains of aspirationist baggage trapped in ‘Joe the Plumber’. While aspirationists and corporatists often come together for whatever common reason and share vague ideological tics, the aspirationists only fetishize butch Americanism when prodded to, and not particularly well. On the other side of the same token, unlike Sam the Skinhead, corporatists have no concept of what actual working people do, want, or consider a reasonable amount of money.

So they constantly circle the fail drain together, arm in arm. It’s beautiful, in a sad, sad way.

“Raging Elephants”? Conservatards are so cute when they try to make their little jolly pirate clubs. “Gathering of Eagles,” “Raging Elephants.” They’re just so macho.

And so gay. “Teabaggers.” “2M4M.” “Raging Queens, er Elephants.”

@commie atheist:
Well, these are the same people who unironically proclaim that “300” is their favorite “conservative movie”. They know all about macho posturing that fools absolutely no one.

What? You mean not every real grassroots movement relies on huge chunks of robocalls to get turnout to their totally grassrootsy rallies, just like the totally grassrootsy election?

Gah.

Why does anyone read this pud?

Two other observations could be made about the crowd: 1) it was too white and 2) there were no chicks. In America, chicks are protest canaries. You can tell just how authentic a political rally is by the number of attractive women that attend. If you’re gonna build a mass movement against anything, there’s no way of getting around the chick factor. The only cute girl, a perky, tall blond, appeared later. (Looking at her picture now, she does not seem cute at all. But that just goes to show how bad the situation really was. This teabagging wasn’t for pleasure.) But she was on the job, working for some conservative TV station called Freedom Talk or Freedom Now. Judging by the name, it was connected to FreedomWorks, and she was obviously connected to Katz, chatting him up like they were friends at the end of the show.

It was now 9:35 am and Katz was finishing, right on schedule. He invited people to throw their tea bags into a pot of water (throwing tea bags into the ocean would be littering and illegal) and yell out their anti-tax demands. The whole thing was pathetic and over very quickly, thankfully.

It was a total sham, a front in order to get TV facetime. It worked, too. FOX news sent a camera crew. So did NBC. Koch was teabagging the media, and the media loved it.

I had a little plan to toy with Katz and test his reaction, so as I milled around, waiting for him to finish his interviews, I tried interacting with the participants. It wasn’t easy. These people didn’t have much to say. The Young Republican cadre weren’t very chatty, answering in short, two- or three-word bursts. If you’ve ever been to a real protest, you know how open and forthcoming people are. They have to be to recruit. Most of the extras were useless, too, either senile or insane, or both. One woman was recruiting for a Republican club in West Los Angeles. But she had no idea what was going on. “Santelli? I don’t know. Do we support him? How did he vote on the Stimulus?”

Where’s Megan McArdle and a highwood 2×4 when you need them?

“OMG!!! Link to AFP!!! CONSPIRACY!!!
Grow up guys! They’ve given no funding or help in organizing. We’ve only talked to them in terms of providing speakers and such. Get a life!”

Gee. For the price of a few phone coversations, I too can be listed as a Sponser? What a bargain!! Best deal on the intertubes!!

The real anti-semites have always been on the Left.

The real blarters have always been on the Blart.

While we’re on the subject of big walking tools, rabbit letter opener.

“The real anti-semites have always been on the Left.”
I said the same thing the other day as I was speaking out against the pinko New Deal.

The basis of me was Fascist.

I said the same thing the other day as I was speaking out against the pinko New Deal.

It’s terrible how those nasty leftists obscure the real truth about our friends in Europe, isn’t it?

I was also a man of the Left, “Socialist” was even in my party name.

A worthwhile graphic might be this screen shot of Fox News.

As you can see, it is cleary labeled as “Fox’s Tea Party Revolt.”

No, nothing corporate at all about “Fox’s Tea Party.”

“The basis of me”
If you wanna live in our country, you gotta learn English, ya parasite.

Oops. OK. To be fair, it was CNN that labeled it as “Fox’s Tea Party.” That’s what I get for pay more attention to my actual job than Sadly!No.

“The real anti-semites have always been on the Left.”

Yup. That’s why, first thing I did was to nationalize everything and make the capitalists my peons. Yeah, especially those Krupps.

Mmm hmm. Yup.

Then why did you systematically murder us, Adolf?

I don’t get the Tea Party thing. Shouldn’t it be like Pee Party or something? Tee Pee Party? Why Tea? We drink tea sweetened with real sugar in the South. Up North they sweeten tea with rasberry flavoring. Yeck. My mother used to have a Tea once in a while for the ladies from the Church. But they didn’t call it a Tea Party. What’s with the Tea Party thing anyway? What’s going on? How’s that? Hey you. I’d like a refill. What’d he say? Unsweetened. Oh Gawd. Where are you from anyway?

“The real anti-semites have always been on the Left.”

What.

Don’t look at us.

Outside of passionate outbursts ultimately aimed at Israel but occasionally and loathsomely misdirected, the only significant group anyone identifies with the left who engage in routine anti-Semitism are black nationalists, and the SPLC doesn’t just call them right-wing for no reason – they identify strongly with Paul/LaRouche-style conspiracy theories (often the same theories), attach with profound paranoia to cultural misreadings of militia formation and gun ownership, and when they move mainstream almost universally vote Republican.

Of course, this is what our dear boy is thinking about, because he lies awake at night wondering why he wasn’t good enough to be one of the thousands of boys leading black Republican Malachi York molested.

I still don’t get it. Can anyone explain to me exactly what they are protesting? Human Events sez

But today, many Americans feel helpless as they watch an imperialistic government destroy our Constitution and 237 years of liberty.

The first American Tea Party birthed a nation. The second American Tea Party could help save it!

Just like our Founding Fathers, we’re tired of the way our government is behaving.

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Others apparently want it to be a book burning party. (I posted a link earlier.)

Or is it about taxes? As in, the taxes they’re getting a break on.

Do they even know?

Is this actually some other universe than the one I used to live in?

I didacted to the capitalists what they could make, and did in fact nationalize the ones that didn’t go along with me. I also broke-up big department stores.

Because, you see, on the far right is anarchy. On the far left is Communism. I’m slightly to the right of Communism, but still far far left. I would have done to GM and Chrysler exactly what Obama did the other day, in fact. In Fascism there’s an illusion of a “market” but really its all dictated by the government.

Unsweetened. Oh Gawd. Where are you from anyway?

Some of us actually drink it hot, too.

BTW, I was also a big believer in being “green” and in “animal rights”.

If I knew any less about how political theory works, I’d be Sarah Palin.

Covered in full, on this site, over a year ago.

Sorry, Troofus.

I was democratic! AND a republic! It’s right there in the name!

Fun fact: no respectable historian will identify Hitler outside of one of the following categories: “radical traditionalist”, “hyper-nationalist”, “right totalitarian”, “fascist” or some other axis tangential to the right and left as defined in the politics of democratic countries; “superpaternalist”, or more simply “quasi-militarist”.

Doughy Pantload’s book is literally worthless – even if you accept the line of argument that Hitler represented a strain of totalitarianism distinct from but farther from liberal democracy than Stalin’s, his militantly ignorant work of political theatre cheapens your position, occults anything that resembles legitimate scholarship, and puts a crass political motive behind any even casual attempt to discuss history. That and he does a horrific disservice to the study of totalitarianism as an American phenomenon and is mainly doing what he does to call hippies nasty names, which is totally the one thing keeping us off the road to serfdom.

@Marlowe,
Well, these are the same people who unironically proclaim that “300? is their favorite “conservative movie”.

Of *COURSE* 300 is a conservative movie. Those washboard abs and cut pecs, all those buffed-out oiled up bodies manfully gripping the shafts on those long, long spears…. Excuse me, I needed a few moments to, uh, regain my composure.

Also, stop with the fucking gimmick. Are you wearing makeup or some shit? Little spirit gum moustache? Are the basic mechanics behind the Internet still that boundlessly fucking hilarious to you?

Troofus ghostwrites for me. He also goes on fruitpie runs occasionally, if I catch him on the rare occasions he isn’t masturbating.

I bet they’ll be pretty big, these “tax protesting Teabagging’ things.

And they’ll mean nothing.

No doubt on the first and definitely on the second, for what’s important is what comes out of Wednesday’s gatherings. And since right-wingers belittle, misconceive, and simply can’t be bothered with organizing—the patient, sometimes tedious work before during and after events like these—the long-term impact will be negligible, apart from confirmation that they are and will continue to be the Silent Majority.

If you’re particularly careful, you can catch the Liberal Fascism watchmen ranting about Hitler being a Green at the same time they berate the Sierra Club for not addressing the imminent threat world-travelling Jews Mexicans pose to our natural ecology.

From Galt’sList.

Clinging bitters don’t like it when snooty white ee-lee-tiss look down their noses at them. Imagine how they must feel when a half-rican ee-lee-tiss snoots them.

Don’t hurt me… I’m all the rightards have left.

It’s your chance to be part of an authentic popular protest movement, one that just might save America from the greed and ineptitude of the folks who have been running it into the ground.

Wall Street?

Watch this video, Libs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__TdzarAkao

“Liberal Fascism Hour, Part I: The Newspeak Version of History” very informative video by Glenn Beck.

Fascism was a form of left-totalitarianism. All totalitarianism is from the left wing.

If I refer to myself as a millionaire, will a millon dollars suddenly appear in my bank account? Because, if I call myself a millionaire, then I AM ONE.

“…very informative video by Glenn Beck…
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The Tea Party Rank and File: Morons or Suckers?

A: Yes! How else explain nitwits holding signs reading, e.g, “We’ve had enough taxes already,” when these same nitwits are due for a tax CUT?

Not that there aren’t nitwits who make more than 250K per year. But they don’t have signs. They have sign *carriers.*

“This isn’t “Change” We Can Believe In said,
April 14, 2009 at 0:24

George W. Bush was a tax cutter.”

Economists would disagree with that absolutist statement. We’ll, I suppose.. I’m not an economist. 😉

Taxation as a concept is larger than a bill from the government. It’s a fee.
There is a concept of back-door taxation.
As an example (maybe not the best, but it comes to mind), If you receive a tax cut that saves you $2000 per year and you’re middle class that would be pretty sweet.
However, if bad economic policy caused your employer to drop your health care and you had to fork over $6000 per year for private insurance you’re basically paying a back-end tax. Millions lost their health care during the Bush administrations.

We get ‘taxed’ all the time. You get a 5% raise but loose your health care.. thats not too good if your private policy costs more than that raise.
The trick from the perspective of the person pulling the fast-one is to structure things in a way that you don’t immediately realize.
Giving you a $300 rebate and a $1000 tax cut is great now but what if it increases your per capita portion of the National Debt by $4000? How much of a looser bet is that if we consider that we’ll probably never stop paying interest on your extra 4K?

Bush cut taxes. He also did some pretty disastrous things that lead to massive deficits, skyrocketing debt, and millions in additional uninsured, unemployed, and additions to the below-poverty ranks.
I should have sent my tax rebate back.

“A: Yes! How else explain nitwits holding signs reading, e.g, “We’ve had enough taxes already,” when these same nitwits are due for a tax CUT?”

He raised cigarette taxes. He’s about to impos “tax and trade” which is also a massive tax increase. He is going to increase taxes on the successful and the achievers in society, hurtin us ALL the process.

We’re not corporate lobbyists. We just do their dirty work.

Astro-serfs for astro-turf!

I think I’ll make a few phone calls to alert my local armed forces recruiting offices about the upcoming atroturforama event in my area. These Tiny T-parties seem like they could be recruiting gold for 1-800-GOARMY. They won’t get any actual signups, of course, but I assume they must get credit for marking down all the eligible bachelors they get to listen to their spiel.

Cap and trade I meant, not tax and trade.

“Liberal Fascism Hour, Part I: The Newspeak Version of History” very informative video by Glenn Beck.

Again, ‘Liberal Fascism’ isn’t just bankrupt as a scholarly work, it impugns by association the actual libertarian scholarship on fascism, which (at most) considers Hitler a syncresis of right-totalitarian behaviors and trinket socialism. Goldberg is a fraudulent momma’s boy, so of course you and Beck act like he’s John Wayne and Stephen Hawking rolled up into one.

“He is going to increase taxes on the successful and the achievers in society, hurtin [sic] us ALL [sic] the process.”
No, you’re nowhere near that group and never will be, so I wouldn’t worry.

A tip, ‘Baggers, unless you want to pay a mint for parking smack in the middle of downtown, you should (gasp) take MARTA.

Impossible. MARTA combines two things wingnuts don’t support: public transportation, and poor people.

Also, where is the teabagging in Atlanta going to be? It’d be amusing to stop by and see it.

He is going to increase taxes on the successful and the achievers in society, hurtin us ALL the process.

The same ‘successful and achievers’ who he’s forcing Hitlerism on by unfairly forcing out of executive boards, right?

Seriously, has it ever occurred to you to think even momentarily about what you’re being told to pass along before you pass it along? Maybe if you did you wouldn’t make such a goddamn embarassment out of yourself so often.

“He is going to increase taxes on the successful and the achievers in society, hurtin us ALL the process.”—-No Taxation for Dumb Wingnut Bumpersticker Slogan

Yes, when Bill Gates pays taxes at a rate he did in 1993, we all suffer. Why, we’re about to replace baseball with Thunderdome at any moment.

MARTA–Moving Africans Rapidly Through Atlanta, lool!

My favorite part of wingnut toadies is that they’re still doing Big Tobacco’s whining for it long after Big Tobacco has knuckled down and accepted that the whining isn’t getting anything done. They’re not just leaning in and listening to the gramophone, they’re leaning in and waiting for orders whenever they come across something with a bulb.

Also, where is the teabagging in Atlanta going to be? It’d be amusing to stop by and see it.

It would be fun to walk by with a sign that says, “Pssst… You’re protesting tax CUTS.”

No Taxation for Nationalization said,
“He raised cigarette taxes. He’s about to impos “tax and trade” which is also a massive tax increase. He is going to increase taxes on the successful and the achievers in society, hurtin us ALL the process.”

cig taxes are a sin tax. They’re not about revenue as much as they are about changing public policy. The income from increased taxes will decrease as the new rates cause more people to quit. The real savings will be years down the road when we pay less for the health care issues from smoking.
Bottom line, Sin taxes are taxes you choose to pay, not taxes you have to pay. Don’t smoke. Of course, you’re free (as in liberty) to smoke.. just pay for the medicare costs you’ll impose on me when you’re dying of emphysema in 20 years.

As for the argument about us all suffering when the obscenely wealthy are taxed.. it just doesn’t pan out. We had VooDoo (trickle-down) economics in the Reagan years and again with GWB. In both administrations tax revenues rose slowly compared to GDP. Middle class adjusted income was stagnant. Deficits and Debt skyrocketed.
I’m not talking opinions here, look it up.
Trickle down doesn’t work. It’s a fact.
The more specific trickle-down argument I’ve heard was that without the Galts, there would be no large scale capital investment. That’s just ludicrous. Incorporation renders that argument patently false. Intel can build a multi-billion dollar Chip plant not because it’s owned by some trillionaire.. but because it’s owned by hundreds of thousands, if not millions of investors. It’s a corporation, not a sole-proprietorship.

DURRRR ACRONIMZ R TO FUNNY FOREVER

“Giving you a $300 rebate and a $1000 tax cut is great now but what if it increases your per capita portion of the National Debt by $4000?”

But I bet you spported the Porkulus, which won’t get us anything at all, didn’t you?

Yeah, grass on the national mall and protecting mice in San Francisco, that’s really worth $1 trillion.

Bush’s tax cuts weren’t nearly as big as the Porkulus.

You can do something about the debt though. You can demand government put a SPENDING FREEZE in place.

“He is going to increase taxes on the successful and the achievers in society, hurtin us ALL the process.”

Where do you hear such nonsense? Have you been getting into the Ayn Rand again? Or hearing it from your hoodlum friends? If your hoodlum friends told you, “If you jump off a cliff, the achievers in society will create value that will benefit you,” would you do it?

You go right to your room and read something a) well written, b) true, and c) not the fevered ravings of a sexually-obsessed refugee from Soviet Russia who had to turn the U.S. AND ALL OF EUROPE into a parody of “Socialism” in order to give something for her nostril-flaring, chin-jutting, one-dimensional comic book heroes and heroines to “defy.”

Go read The Stupids Step Out, if you want to see yourself (and your teabagging hoodlum friends) rendered in decent fiction, for once.

islmfaoscist, the Army has weight limits, and I think you have to be able to do more than lumber from an ass-indented couch to the crapper without getting winded.

Ask me about my awesome record on human rights, freedom of speech and political freedoms.

Hey, I’m a republic, it says so right there in my name.

Also, where is the teabagging in Atlanta going to be? It’d be amusing to stop by and see it.

Centennial Olympic Park, from what I’ve heard.

“But I bet you spported [sic]the Porkulus, which won’t get us anything at all, didn’t you?”
This from the dumbshit who enjoys waving a sign around on behalf of a bunch of rich fucks who don’t care if he lives or dies.

My favorite part of wingnut toadies is that they’re still doing Big Tobacco’s whining for it long after Big Tobacco has knuckled down and accepted that the whining isn’t getting anything done. They’re not just leaning in and listening to the gramophone, they’re leaning in and waiting for orders whenever they come across something with a bulb.

That’s the wonderful thing about “conservatives.” The people who self identify as conservative really do embody the spirit of conservatism that entails always looking backwards, never changing what they do. I don’t know whether they are incapable of learning from their adored, ideal (and also largely mythical) past or whether they refuse to learn. Perhaps it’s their delusional interpetation of the past that makes learning from it impossible?

In any case, it is clearly an unsustainable model. BWAHAHABWAHAHA

Yeah, grass on the national mall and protecting mice in San Francisco, that’s really worth $1 trillion.

That $1 trillion is spent and respent. The problem in a financially-driven recession isn’t a lack of austerity but excessive, self-reinforcing austerity, and whether you’re a monetarist, a classicist, or a Keynesian, the demand curve has to be brought out somehow or the economy will never recover.

But you don’t care about what actually helps the country. You just want to see your team win – which is fine and all, but stop pretending you give a shit about anything else, OK?

But I bet you spported the Porkulus, which won’t get us anything at all, didn’t you?

Oh, so you’re not actually protesting taxes at all – you’re actually protesting non-military deficit spending, since we’ve already established via the right’s long silence that flushing money away in service of killing foreigners and political contributor graft is just fine by you.

I have an idea for a good sign for you to carry at your teabagging event – “Higher Unemployment NOW!!!!!!”

Here’s the Atlanta Tea Party page.

“That $1 trillion is spent and respent. The problem in a financially-driven recession isn’t a lack of austerity but excessive, self-reinforcing austerity, and whether you’re a monetarist, a classicist, or a Keynesian, the demand curve has to be brought out somehow or the economy will never recover.”

Keyensianism failed. We tried it, and by the late 1970s it was clear what it led to–hyperinflation, high interest rates, a strangling of creativity and innovation, and low or non-existant growth.

“That $1 trillion is spent and respent. The problem in a financially-driven recession isn’t a lack of austerity but excessive, self-reinforcing austerity, and whether you’re a monetarist, a classicist, or a Keynesian, the demand curve has to be brought out somehow or the economy will never recover.”

We’ve been down this road before. We tried Keyensianism. By 1980, it was clear what this led to–low or nonexistant growth, hyperinflation, a strangling of innovation and creativity etc. I don’t want to go back to the Carter Recession, and I don’t think you do, either.

Ok, that Atlanta Tea Party page is hilarious (unintentionally on their part, of course, only making it funnier). I noted “FreedomWorks” on their “sponsor” list, as well as a FreedomWorks google ad. And then there’s the utter fail of the T-shirts:
Taxed
Enough
Already

I’ve decided which sign is most appropriate for me to carry at the local teabagging event: a poster with that Gary Larson cartoon, showing a bunch of doofuses marching with an upside-down banner reading “Imbeciles of America UNTIE!”.

“That $1 trillion is spent and respent. The problem in a financially-driven recession isn’t a lack of austerity but excessive, self-reinforcing austerity, and whether you’re a monetarist, a classicist, or a Keynesian, the demand curve has to be brought out somehow or the economy will never recover.”

We’ve been down this road before. We tried Keyensianism. By 1980, it was clear what this led to–low or nonexistant growth, hyperinflation, a strangling of innovation and creativity etc. I don’t want to go back to the Carter Recession, and I don’t think you do, either. Do You?

A real historian notes:

whole chapters of Mein Kampf are devoted to vicious smears and declarations of war against “the Left,” and not merely the Marxism that Goldberg acknowledges was a major focus of Hitler’s animus.

This became manifest in the Italian fascist and German Nazi transformations from a faction of street thugs into an actual political power that seized the reins of government, when fascists gradually shed all pretensions or appeals to socialism and became violently anti-socialist and anti-communist. But it was present all along; “the Left” were the people who were beaten and murdered in the 1920s by the squadristi and the Brownshirts; and the first Germans sent off to Nazi concentration camps like Dachau were not Jews but socialists, communists, and other left-wing political prisoners, including “liberal” priests and clerics.

It’s simply not subject to debate that fascism is a right wing phenomenon. The history is very very clear. Nazis used the term “socialism” to describe their party because they were bald faced liars scheming to manipulate the public through any means necessary.

But really, you know Goldberg is not a serious thinker when he is reduced to arguing that because Hitler was a vegetarian this is representative of anything at all.

The “Liberalism” Hitler denoucned was CLASSICAL liberalism, i.e. libertarianism. That’s what “liberal” means in Europe.

Your comments make it clear you haven’t even read Goldberg’s book!

Your comments make it clear that you never really did read Goldberg’s book.

And the “liberalism” Hitler was against was CLASSICAL liberalism, i.e. libertarianism.

You know, here’s the thing about the “spending freeze” crap from the Republican Party: responding to a recession by shouting “TAX CUTS ONLY TAX CUTS” is dogmatic but makes sense in certain disciplines. But once it became evident that a significant portion of the bailout bill (almost half, all told) spent money primarily with tax breaks, instead of acting like they were actually interested in helping the country recover and engaging in debate over how the bailout money ought to be spent, they changed gears and decided that we shouldn’t spend any money ever, cross our hearts and hope to die.

There is no economic discipline in which pulling money out of an economy during a recession is anything but a disaster. None. The ‘spending freeze’ is completely unique in American legislative history – it’s common enough in state legislatures and parliamentary systems, where partisan identity trumps legislative duties. But at the federal level, you had the unheard-of case of the opposition party deliberately pushing a plan they knew to be harmful just to make sure that no matter who won, partisan rancor would increase and the public would suffer.

The Republicans have gone beyond trying to win any small victories or keep their voices heard in Washington. All they want is to make the public suffer for bringing the gravy train to an end. And ‘the public’ doesn’t magically exclude any Republicans making too little to move to Dubai and pretend the Emancipation Proclamation never happened. They want to fuck us all over to punish us for voting Obama. All of us.

They don’t just want him to fail, they want us to fail.

That is what the Republican Party is telling you when it tries to convince you we need a spending freeze in the middle of a fucking depression.

This is a pretty big paradigm shift, because it means that the people at the top of that nest of vipers are basically playing Bolshevik on the taxpayer dime. That’s fine, but it also means that you’ve got a basically complete duty as a citizen to keep them out of office. The Party itself has willingly become a cancer in the republic.

This isn’t an exaggeration. This isn’t power politics. They’re not just trying to rob us, they’re trying to kill us.

I loved Glenn Beck’s “One to Grow on” series on Saturday morinings in the 80s. Very informative:

“No, Jimmy, don’t receycle that can! Global warming is a big fat myth perpetuated by a big fat president-in-wanting!”

[Beck punches Jimmy in face, pops open two mega-sized Aqua-net cans, and lets the aerosol fly]

“And THAT’S one to grow on!”

“You know, here’s the thing about the “spending freeze” crap from the Republican Party: responding to a recession by shouting “TAX CUTS ONLY TAX CUTS” is dogmatic but makes sense in certain disciplines. But once it became evident that a significant portion of the bailout bill (almost half, all told) spent money primarily with tax breaks, ”

They weren’t really tax breaks. How can you give tax breaks to people who don’t pay taxes?

Remember 1980? The Carter Recession?

That was the end result of Keyensianism. Hyperinflation, high interest rates, gas lines, slow or non-existant growth, a strangling of innovation and entrepenural risk-taking by confiscatory tax rates.

They weren’t really tax breaks. How can you give tax breaks to people who don’t pay taxes?

Payroll taxes. It’s cute how you’re trying to win McCain’s campaign and all, but something tells me it’s a little late.

Not a big fan of Classical. More of a “Ska” liberalism fan.

“Payroll taxes. ”

But liberals always told me they were just “contributions” to my “Social Security fund”. So you’re finally admitting Socialist Security is a shell game Maddoff-esque Ponzi Scheme and not “insurance”?

That was the end result of Keyensianism. Hyperinflation, high interest rates, gas lines, slow or non-existant growth, a strangling of innovation and entrepenural risk-taking by confiscatory tax rates.

Gee, I guess the two oil embargos the US suffered in the 70s had nothing to do with it.

But let’s say for the sake of argument that you’re right: the only difference between Keynesianism and classical economics on how to deal with a recession is whether or not boosting the supply curve will be as effective marginally in all situations. When you freeze spending, you’re constricting both curves, producing an equilibrium with both more inflation and more unemployment.

No classical economist who isn’t working for the GOP will consider “freeze spending first, ask questions later” a viable answer to a financially-driven economic contraction. They taught supply-side economics in high school when I was growing up – you should know this. I don’t fault you for not knowing it, because you’re an idiot and believe anything any sufficiently loud white man says. But Newt Gingrich and the boys know better. They’re lying to you and planning to screw you.

Jesus Motherfucking Christ on a gawd-damned crutch, stop answering or otherwise dealing w/ this/these retard(s)!!!

Typed
Enough,
Already!

But liberals always told me they were just “contributions” to my “Social Security fund”.

They were before Reagan hiked them far beyond anything the SSA could actually use and quietly shuffled them into the general fund.

You know, that wacky fraudulent liberal.

Spending freeze combined with tax cuts. Tax cuts aren’t spending, their tax cuts.

But liberals always told me they were just “contributions” to my “Social Security fund”.

Check your history, boy. Social security taxes didn’t go through the roof until your man Reagan got into office. See, he came in and made a lot of noise about how he was going to cut everyone’s taxes. So he did – he cut everyone’s income taxes. Rich people got a 20% tax cut and poor schlubs got a couple of percent. Then, in a couple of years when the deficits were running up because, hey, 20% tax cuts for rich people! – Reagan jacked up social security taxes way high. Like by 35% or more. Which was a really cool trick, see, because he took back all of the measly couple of percent income tax cut all the poor schlubs got, and then some – and rich people didn’t have to pay any social security taxes on income over something like $50K, so they got to keep their tax cuts.

And now, 25 years later, you worship the guy who raised the taxes that will never go down, ever, as a demigod.

Funny how that worked out, innit?

These aren’t the usual semiprofessional protesters who attend antiwar and pro-union marches. These are people with real jobs

Fuck, this is the lamest “nyer nyer looooozerz” talking point I think they’ve ever come up with, and to them it’s a timeless, unimpeachable classic. Because nobody could ever take a day off work with several weeks’ notice for a protest – unless they’re a wingnut internet troll, in which case they are the boss of a multi-bulti-billion-dollar unlicensed plumbing company and can do whatever they want.

Yep, I remember 1980 very well. I remember the awful inflation under Nixon and Ford. By the time Carter came into office it had become stagflation. I recall somebody or other….oh yeah, Paul Volcker doing something about it. In fact, the economy was pretty much in a recovery mode by the end of Carter’s first term. Fucking liberals ruin everything.

Tax cuts aren’t spending, their tax cuts.

We’re currently running a tremendous deficit, making the fully appropriate answer – some mixture of tax cuts and spending increases, depending on which economic school’s precepts you accept – unfeasible. A spending freeze would also mean a tremendous increase in the relative portion of taxes levied that go to foreign accounts. As of right now, around 18-24 cents of every dollar taxed leaves the country. Halve spending and a little under half of every dollar taxed leaves the country.

So Rush’s pet plan is fine if you want to funnel half of every dollar that leaves your budget (more under his plan than Obama’s, at that) to Chinese banks. If you don’t, then stop being the GOP elite’s butt-boy. Simple as that.

Yep, I remember 1980 very well. I remember the awful inflation under Nixon and Ford.

WHIP INFLATION NOW

I wanted to try out a new recipe for Easter, but couldn’t be bothered: cheese on toast – or as you colonials call it, “grilled cheese” – cut into crucifixes, with more than one type of cheese. I would call it “Cheeses on the Cross”.

Florglespatzes aren’t glombledogs, they’re florglespatzes! You liberals today!

I posted sumthin funny there. Hehehe.

I have a sign I’m bring to my Tea Party Rally that says:

1.20.13 THE END OF SOCIALISM

Before photoshopping, read: “TEH NED OF SOCIAMALISM”

Equivalency Quiz:

Liberal is to Fascist as:

1) Tennis is to bowling

2) Baseball is to Scrabble

3) Basketball is to Soccer

4) Football is to badminton

I wanted to try out a new recipe for Easter, but couldn’t be bothered: cheese on toast – or as you colonials call it, “grilled cheese” – cut into crucifixes, with more than one type of cheese. I would call it “Cheeses on the Cross”.

That brings to mind the one time I went on a diet without any sugars. I missed pasta the most, but all the savory foods I had in its stead seemed to make up for it. Without thinking about it, I even got a plate of sushi in the supermarket, but only then realized that I couldn’t have it. Didn’t really have any problems after that last temptation of the rice.

@kiki: You’re overestimating him if you think he can spell “of” on the first try.

Didn’t really have any problems after that last temptation of the rice.

Well, I had a curry the other night, and I had some problems with the Passin’ of the Rice…

“Hardy Har! It’s pissing off the Libs!”

Go Tea-baggers! Go!!!!

I thought tea was for wussy liberals who drink it with their pinky uplifted.

Huh.

@kiki: You’re overestimating him if you think he can spell “of” on the first try.

The ‘o’, like the wingnut, is a zero.

Nixon and especially Ford were libs, at least in domestic policy.

WELL I DEFINATELY AGREE WITH “NO TAXATION BEFORE NATIONIZATION” I MEAN ALL THE FACHIST STUFF COME FROM THE LEFT SUCH AS MUSSOLINI IN ITALY, WELL HE WAS A KNOWN LEFTIST, JANINE GARAFOLO SAID SHE THOUGHT HE WAS THE BEST RULER OF THE 19TH CENTURY SO IT JUST GOES TO SHOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH HEAR.

WELL ALL SO THERE IS RED CHINA MAO, WELL OF COARSE HE CAME FROM THE LIBERAL TRADITION BECASUE HE WAS A HOMOSEXUAL, SO YET AGAIN HE WAS A LIBERAL FACHIST.

AND LAST BUT NOT LAST HO CHI MIN, WELL OBVIOSULY HE WAS A LIBERAL BECASUE HE WAS SO INTERESTED IN HIS “CHI” AND WE KNOW THAT IT IS ONLY A LIBERAL WHO IS INTERSTED IN CHI AND SHAKRAS AND STUFF SUCH AS THAT.

Ford and Nixon were liberals in domestic policy.

Hey, remember when Teh Truth / Teh Authentic / Teh Blart said he would stick to one name?

What a fucking asshole!

Your comments functioning brain cells make it clear that you never really did read Goldberg’s book.

Fexed.

Just remember, whatever sign you take to the protest, testicle-shaped or otherwise, bring a friend with a camera.

If the left was as dishonest as the right, wouldn’t we all be hyping a book that claimed Stalin was a right winger because he loved flag waving, loyalty to the state, militarism, industrialization, order and that he ate meat?

It’s not that hard to make the case. If I could photoshop, Goldberg’s book would look nice with the title “Conservative Communism”

Seriously, fuck this assnut.

If I could photoshop, Goldberg’s book would look nice with the title “Conservative Communism”

That was a S,N! idea from way back when…

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23036368@N04/3440066739/

Have the teabaggers considered Iced Tea. Instead of buggering about with teabags, and boiling the water properly, infusing it, etc, etc… they could just buy some Liptons and pour it into a river, or wherever.

No need for thanks……

“Raging Elephants”?

As always, Wikipedia raises more questions than it answers:

Musth \?m?st\ (or, alternatively spelled, must \?m?st\) is a periodic condition in bull elephants, characterized by highly aggressive behavior, and less notably, by copious discharge of a thick tar-like secretion called temporin from the temporal ducts on the sides of the head. It is accompanied by a significant rise in reproductive hormones – testosterone levels in an elephant in musth can be as much as 60 times greater than in the same elephant at other times. However, whether this hormonal surge is the sole cause of musth, or merely a contributing factor, is unknown; scientific investigation of musth is greatly hindered because, during musth, even the most otherwise placid of elephants may try to kill any and all humans. Similarly, the tar-like secretion remains largely uncharacterised, due to the difficulties of collecting samples for analysis; however, secretions and urine collected from zoo elephants have been shown to contain elevated levels of various highly odorous ketones and aldehydes.

The musth secretion, which naturally runs down into the elephant’s mouth, is full of ketones and aldehydes and (to a human at least) tastes unbelievably foul.

Ford and Nixon were liberals in domestic policy.

The EPA originally started as a conspiracy to keep crying Native Americans off of America’s tee-vees.

What exactly has Obammy done that conservatives think is so naughty?

Well, for starters, he won the election.

No Taxation for Socialization said,

April 14, 2009 at 1:10

The real anti-semites have always been on the Left.

REPLY: Typical rightwing reactionary stupidity.