It’s The Gay Super Bowl!

Slumdog your millionaires*, folks, we’re in for a wild ride! Enter thoughts, predictions, ‘LOL did you SEE what angelina was wearing OMFG!’ down below.

*I have no idea what this is supposed to mean and I wrote it.

 

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According to the Wall Street Journal, the hottest travel trend is touring the slums of India. Perhaps that is what you meant.

 
 

Perhaps I’m just not RealAmerican(TM) enough, but awards shows bore the everliving fuck out of me. If I ran the country there’d be just one award show and the only award would be for most creative slaughter of the people who produce award shows.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the hottest travel trend is
touring the slums of India.

Ha ha very funny MzNicky. I know you made that up so we’d get so angry we’d put our fists through our monitors. Pfffft!

 
Johnny Coelacanth
 

I have been asked by a reviewer friend to loudly and publicly slag The Reader. Beyond that, I don’t know and don’t care. “Slumdogging your millionaire” sounds like a sexual perversion involving Paris Hilton.

 
 

My takes.

The take of someone w/ a very pointy nose & chin (I think they’re cute, but..) who is paid probably almost a living wage to write for a living.

 
 

arky: Check it out, if you can access it online (subscription required):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123517711344337609.html?mod=article-outset-box

Here’s an excerpt:

‘Slumdog’ Tour Guide
by Stan Sesser
Wall St. Journal, 2/21/09

‘Slumdog Millionaire,’ the story of a young man from the slums of Mumbai, opened here late last month, but Mayur Dixit, a 29-year-old who speaks fluent English and holds a degree in economics, isn’t interested. “I don’t need to see it,” he says. “I’ve lived in the slums for seven years.”

There may be no greater symbol of the old India, the India of too much poverty and too few jobs, than the 2,000 slum communities of the former Bombay. The new India, of billionaires and buzzing technology companies, pushed the old India aside years ago. But now, thanks largely to “Slumdog,” the old India has inched back into the spotlight. And that suits Mr. Dixit fine. He plans to benefit, by leading visitors around his neighborhood and catering to the international appetite for slum tourism.

Travelers often complain that the world is becoming homogenized, but India is an exception, its crumbling infrastructure, constant chaos and in-your-face poverty co-existing with trendy nightclubs and Bollywood glitz. Tourism here has fallen off precipitously, and airfares and hotel rates have plummeted. But among the trickle of international tourists are a striking number eager to see Mumbai’s now-famous slums, home to an estimated 10 million of the city’s 18 million residents.

A factor behind the popularity of slum tours is that Mumbai, India’s financial capital and lately a premiere luxury destination, is once again accessible to middle-class vacationers. Not only are airlines and hotels discounting, but Americans in particular stand to benefit as the Indian rupee has plunged 25% against the dollar. Victor Biswas, president of Ventures and Travels Inc., in New York, which specializes in tours to India, says he is sending clients to India for a high-season round-trip airfare of around $1,000, compared with $1,800 a year ago. The flight I took last month from my home in Bangkok to Mumbai cost me 10,000 baht, or $285, less than half what I paid four years ago. […]

 
 

I went to a movie w/ my friend & sexual associate at least once, maybe twice in this millenium, but I can’t for the life of me remember it/them. Not even the title. I seldom expect to remember details of the flick unless it’s really amazing, but the title of something for which I paid money used to stick w/ me.

Movies are better than ever. Movies are your best entertainment value.

 
 

I am hopelessly torn between Rourke and Penn for best actor. I think they’ll give it to Rourke as a pity-fuck.

 
 

Is Buster Keaton up for anything? We have enjoyed The General” down here this year.

 
 

Whenever you think the human race can sink no lower, it does.

 
 

Here is an interview with Bruce Vilanch, who writes the Oscars. He says that (a) it’s going to be significantly different being emceed by an actor instead of a comedian, because comedians have to be laughed at constantly and that isn’t always going to work and (b) evidently they’re shaking up Supporting Actor this year somehow, although he won’t say how.

He also shares a favorite fart joke, which I will admit is pretty awesome.

 
 

BK is up for zombification & a return to the screen. They may make him a special mask, the Great Stone Face marketing thing not meshing too well w/ putrefaction, loose eyeballs, etc.

 
 

I liked “The Reader.” Also “Milk.” Mickey Rourke makes my skin crawl so the thought of paying money to watch him play a wrestler didn’t even occur. “Slumdog Millionaire” was a disappointment.

 
 

Also, in case they do the maudlin fucking thing and give the award to Ledger, [He’ll Never Be An] Ol’ Man River.

 
 

I thought BK was pretty good in Sunset Boulevard. Not enough of a part to qualify for supporting role though.

Huh? That was when?

 
 

If you ask me, the Sam Beckett / Buster Keaton film is due for a re-make.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

I enjoyed the Straight Oscars back at the beginning of the month, even though my Cardinals lost.

 
 

I’ve never been a big Sean Penn fan but I can’t recall anyone ever putting in a better performance than his Harvey Milk.

in the interest of complete disclosure, I’ve seen The Times of Harvey Milk ’bout a hunnert times. I also remember seeing Harvey on teevee and film clips. And I met Cleve Jones around that time. And Harvey is an American Hero of the first order. So maybe I’m a leetle biased.

 
 

Best thing in Sunset Boulevard was Jack Webb proving that he could act as if he didn’t have stick in his ass & a clamp on his jaw.

 
 

Alternate Title: “The Super Gay Bowl!”

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

At the risk of sounding all Big Hollywood, I don’t know why Gran Torino didn’t get more recognition. It was a hell of a good movie, and IMO not motivated by any political agenda (as bad as the righties want to claim it).

Also Paul Blart: Mall Cop. Was that released this year, so it won’t be eligible until next year’s awards?

 
 

When they used to run this crap-tacular in late March or early April, I would to turn off the telebsion & do several hours of spring cleaning. Now, no apt. to clean, & too early for spring cleaning.

What’s that still-living Fred Pohl up to?

 
 

Sunday nights frequently become open thread hours around here so I’ll go just get it over with and go OT now.

Is what I’m doing over at GPW “trolling?” I used to troll Usenet (in the older days sense of trailing bait -looking for victims. Before the world wide webz, most Usenet users were college students who knew everything about everything so the fishing was always easy.

If trolling now means what the dipshit troofuses do, well then I aint trolling. But I’m not in tune with you kids and your newfangled ideas anymore so I genuinely have to ask if I’m being a troll.

I admit to purposely saying things guaranteed to rile them up, so maybe I’m guilty? On the other hand, I use the very non trollish (in what I understand the new sense of that to be) techiniques of using facts and logic and stuff.

Well anyway, it is fun. For a while. Say, anyone remember BIFF@BIFF.BIFFNET? Those were the days,

 
 

A nation holds its breath for next yrs.’ announcement. How many nominations will Paul Blart, Mall Fart, take away? And will it just be a big tease, w/ many major nominations, but the only award for the Segway stunt-riding?

 
 

Best thing in Sunset Boulevard was Jack Webb proving that he could act as if he didn’t have stick in his ass & a clamp on his jaw.

Really. Considering that he did have a stick up his ass, that was pretty good acting.

 
 

Is what I’m doing over at GPW “trolling?” I used to troll Usenet (in the older days sense of trailing bait -looking for victims. Before the world wide webz, most Usenet users were college students who knew everything about everything so the fishing was always easy.

If trolling now means what the dipshit troofuses do, well then I aint trolling. But I’m not in tune with you kids and your newfangled ideas anymore so I genuinely have to ask if I’m being a troll.

I admit to purposely saying things guaranteed to rile them up, so maybe I’m guilty? On the other hand, I use the very non trollish (in what I understand the new sense of that to be) techiniques of using facts and logic and stuff.

I think it’s just a product of blogs being asinine. My dick-salad days were only a few years ago and what they call trollin’ ain’t shit on that.

As a general rule, if you can pants a troll he ain’t a troll.

(And I’d just like to reassert the scheme I’ve devised for neutralizing the twoofuses here – I’m using a separate handle for responses to d-bags, ‘St. Jesus I’, and would strongly suggest that anyone else doing so use the same name with a different ordinal or at the very least use a different handle to allow the killfiling of the entire discussion by decent citizens.)

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

PeeJ,

Arguing is not trolling per se, at least in my opinion.

 
 

PeeJ, don’t torture yourself w/ facts, logic & so on. If thsose meant anything to them, they wouldn’t be cognitively dissonant patriots in the first place.

Been trying any concerning? “Brothers & Dykes, we are cutting off our own noses when we conspire w/ these people. And we should stop being so swish, it just doesn’t help …”

You probably got a few I might not know.

Hey, hobbies are good, either way.

 
 

Make sure there’s none of that “automatic gainsaying” in your arguments.

 
 

MB, that reminds me of something that I might work into a concern. Shortly after the Ho and I first started dating – say 19 or so years ago – he shared an apt. with a younger gay guy who was earnest and kind but not terribly bright. I was over there visiting (who am I kidding, I all but lived there) watching some documentary on teevee about the bombing of Germany in WW II. Brian, the apartment mate, was first generation German American. He opined “If I was there I would have manned the AckAck guns too. It would have been my duty.”

We gently pointed out that he would not, in fact have done that, as he would have been sent to the camps with a pink triangle long ago.

I think there’s something for me to work with there, yep.

 
 

I look forward to all the articles at Big Hollywood tomorrow about how the liberal establishment shut out An American Carol from the Oscars.

 
 

MB Those falling out eyeballs are the only things that will keep BK from the big time.
In terms of conservative films I think Asswipe millionaires will do well as will Asswipe: Blart Cop. Dunno about The Asswipe Reader though.

 
 

Thank Goddess for Netflix. If our dinner ever shows up (dam’ amateurs clogging up the delivery system) I should try and get the Spousal Unit to watch Frozen River with me…

Which, combined with the recent posts on Fred Pohl, reminds me: I cannot recommend Genshiken, also available through Netflix, highly enough for those of us who were sci-fi geeks gnerds faans during their college years. Even if you’re only dimly aware of what ‘anime’ might mean, the timeless and universal themes of bone-deep insecurity, self-questioning, and cluelessness will remind you of all the stuff we *don’t* miss about being young, if you know what I mean, and if you go back to the tapeloop that plays through your head at 3am on a bad night you know exactly what I mean.

 
The Akaka Bill: A Cash Cow for Democrats
 

The Akaka Bill: A Cash Cow for Democrats
By Andrew Walden
Eat your heart out Jack Abramoff. President Obama looks forward to a guaranteed supply of Democrat campaign money which will make the imprisoned Republican fundraiser look like the small time operator he was. And better yet, Obama’s multi-billion dollar nationwide scheme to circumvent campaign spending laws comes neatly disguised as a Hawaii-only deal for “reconciliation” and “justice”. “Campaign finance” isn’t even in the bill’s description. It is called the Akaka Bill.

Reintroduced February 4 for the 2009 Congressional session as S381 and HR862, the Akaka Bill creates a process to establish a Native Hawaiian Tribal Government. If it reaches his desk, America’s first black president has pledged to sign a bill which is justified in Hawaii as protection of the private multi-billion dollar Kamehameha Schools’ right to exclude African-American and other non-Hawaiian students. That pledge launched Obama’s climb to the Presidency at a series of meetings with Hawaii Democrats in December, 2004 — immediately after he won his Illinois Senate seat.

This week, on February 25, the US Supreme Court will be hearing Office of Hawaiian Affairs v. Housing and Community Dev. Corp. of Hawaii, which will decide whether the Hawaii Supreme Court was correct to rule that a 1993 Congressional Resolution apologizing for the 1893 overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom gives native Hawaiians a claim on 1.2 million acres of Hawaii real estate known as the ‘ceded lands.’ These lands, so named because the US ‘ceded’ them back to the State upon admission in 1959, comprise 29% of the State’s total land mass and almost all of the land owned by the State of Hawaii.

But this is not the story of a one-state political deal. Hawaiians have never been a tribe. The Hawaiian nationality was created by the Hawaiian Kingdom — a national state. Based on the Akaka Bill model, symbolic Congressional resolutions such as the 1993 Apology Resolution become the legal basis for the creation of Tribal Governments where no tribe has ever existed. If the Hawaii Supreme Court ruling is upheld, states could find themselves besieged by self-professed “tribes” with grievances, demanding reconciliation in the form of land and money.

All federally-recognized tribes, including the proposed Akaka Tribe, are exempt from campaign spending limits, disclosure requirements, and many other campaign spending laws. The reach of most Indian Tribes is limited by their poverty. But the Akaka Tribe would likely provide a tribal jurisdiction for the $9 billion Kamehameha Schools — Hawaii’s largest private landowner. Billions of dollars worth of Hawaii real estate would likely be transferred to the Akaka tribe from the State of Hawaii’s ‘ceded lands’. All of these resources would be under the control of a well-known Hawaii-based political gang which played a key early-money role in advancing both Barack Obama and Bill Clinton to the Presidency.

With Hawaii as the model, the apology machine is already in motion. House Resolution 194 passed July 29, 2008 apologizing for slavery and segregation, in spite of the fact that Americans paid the highest price for the abolition of slavery of any nation — expending 600,000 lives to defeat the Democrats’ Confederacy. The resolution, passed only by the House, “expresses its commitment to rectify the lingering consequences of the misdeeds committed against African Americans under slavery and Jim Crow….” Bills introduced in 2004 and 2008 would have apologized to American Indians and “encourage(ed) all State governments similarly to work toward reconciling relationships with Indian tribes.” Hawaii Democrat Senators Dan Akaka and Dan Inouye were both co-sponsors of the 2004 proposed Senate Indian Apology. Hawaii Democrat Reps Neil Abercrombie and Mazie Hirono both cosponsored the House Apology for Slavery.

Bill Clinton rewarded Hawaii Democrats’ early-money primary campaign support with the 1993 passage of the original “Apology Bill” (PL 103-150). After Clinton was safely reelected, the multi-part PBS documentary Frontline: The Fixers in 1997 exposed the central role played by Clinton’s early-money Hawaii Democrat operatives in the Asian money scandals swirling around the Clinton administration.

While public debate on the Akaka Bill focuses on claims of past injustice, Rep Neil Abercrombie (D-HI) explained to the House Natural Resources Committee May 2, 2007: “The bottom line here is that this is a bill about the control of assets. This is about land, this is about money, and this is about who has the administrative authority and responsibility over it.”

Hawaii’s ‘ceded lands’ appeal to the Supreme Court is backed by an Amicus Brief signed by Democrat and Republican Attorneys General of 32 other States. The states’ brief underlines the national land grab potential if the decision of the Hawaii Supreme Court were upheld. Hawaiian ethnicity is tied to the formation of a national state-the Hawaiian Kingdom-not a tribe. Since the Akaka Bill seeks to create a tribe where none has ever existed, the potential is that Congress could be imposing all manner of legal and financial obligations on the states and on the federal government by passing such symbolic resolutions of apology. The states argue that the Hawaii State Supreme Court decision elevates these types of symbolic resolutions above the Admission Acts of the various states, writing:

“If…through a post-statehood resolution like the Apology Resolution the United States recognized claims that cloud title and eliminate authority to sell lands granted at statehood-then the legal force of state admission acts becomes doubtful and state sovereignty can be fundamentally undermined. The practical harm to the amici states would be significant, because the states rely on state lands to fund schools, institutions, and vital state programs…. An apology, such as the Apology Resolution, should not be held to undermine the grant of lands that formed a sovereign state of the Union….Congress should not be viewed as wielding power in a manner that would destroy a state.”

Barack Obama has indicated his support for further apologies. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin reported on Obama speaking to hundreds of cheering journalists at the Unity ’08 conference in Chicago last July:

The Hawaii-born senator, who has told local reporters that he supports the federal recognition bill for native Hawaiians drafted by U.S. Sen. Daniel Akaka, noted other ethnic groups but did not mention native Hawaiians when answering a question about his thoughts on a formal U.S. apology to American Indians.

“I personally would want to see our tragic history, or the tragic elements of our history, acknowledged,” the Democratic presidential hopeful said.

“I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it’s Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds.”

The Amicus brief reflects debate on the Apology Resolution in 1993. Senator Dan Inouye (D-HI) in 1993 claimed the Apology Resolution was “a simple apology” with no further effect. The same lies are being told today regarding the Slavery Apology and the Indian Apology.

But Sen. Slade Gorton (R-WA) didn’t buy the pitch, voting against the Apology Resolution and correctly pointing out: “The logical consequences of this resolution would be independence.” In 2005 Sen. Dan Akaka (D-HI) had this exchange with NPR:

Akaka: It creates a government-to-government relationship with the United States.

NPR: Democratic Senator Dan Akaka, himself a native, wants Congress to let Hawaiians re-establish their national identity. He says his bill would give them a kind of legal parity with tribal governments on the mainland, but he says this sovereignty could eventually go further, perhaps even leading to outright independence.

Akaka: That could be. As far as what’s going to happen at the other end, I’m leaving it up to my grandchildren and great-grandchildren.”

In 2005 tough negotiations with the Department of Justice under the Bush administration forced Akaka to insert four changes into his namesake bill. But with Democrats in charge of both houses of Congress and Obama in the White House, Akaka’s 2009 bill is the pre-Bush version. The items reinstated in the text of the Akaka Bill allow creation of a tribal legal jurisdiction, allow the tribe to claim US military bases and other federal assets in Hawaii, allow gaming if agreed by the State, and leave the door open to what Bush’s Assistant Attorney General William J. Moschella in 2005 called “a flood of litigation.”

US military bases in Hawaii are federal property located almost entirely on lands once owned by the Hawaiian Kingdom and then the Republic which were not ‘ceded’ back to the State of Hawaii upon Statehood. In addition to the language of the Akaka Bill, a failure of the US Supreme Court to overturn the Hawaii Supreme Court decision would open up the possibility of the Akaka Tribe claiming ownership of federal military bases. The 1993 Apology Resolution puts Congress in the position of claiming the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom was “illegal” and claims “indigenous Hawaiian people never directly relinquished their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people or over their national lands….” (emphasis added) Note the two issues: national sovereignty and ownership of the government lands of the Hawaiian Kingdom-exactly the issues posed by the Akaka Bill and the ‘ceded lands’ case.

Did Hawaiians “relinquish their claims”? On January 24, 1895, after hapa-Hawaiian rebel Robert Wilcox failed in the only attempt at forcible restoration of the monarchy, the deposed and then-imprisoned Queen Liliuokalani formally abdicated her throne without any of the conditions contained in her earlier and today highly-publicized 1893 abdication. Signing a document recognizing the sovereignty of the Hawaii Republic, she wrote: “the Government of the Republic of Hawaii is the only lawful Government of the Hawaiian Islands, and that the late Hawaiian monarchy is finally and forever ended, and no longer of any legal or actual validity, force or effect whatsoever….”

In the same document, Queen Liliuokalani renounced: “…all claims or pretensions whatsoever to the late throne of Hawaii, or to the late monarchy of Hawaii…whether the same consist of pecuniary or property considerations, or of personal status, hereby forever renouncing, disowning and disclaiming all rights… save and excepting only such rights and privileges as belong to me in common with all private citizens of, or residents in the Republic of Hawaii.” (emphasis added)

After the Republic was annexed to the United States, citizen Liliuokalani Dominis filed the 1909 lawsuit Liliuokalani v. United States, (45 Ct. Cl. 418 (1910)). In it the former Queen claimed personal ownership of the former government lands of the Hawaiian Kingdom and demanded payment for the lands. The Court ruled against her on May 16, 1910 finding that an 1865 Act agreed to by King Kamehameha III had transferred the lands from ownership by Kamehameha III as an individual to ownership by the Hawaiian Kingdom government. This had been done in exchange for the government assuming the Kamehameha III’s underlying mortgages.

These facts show that the chain of title of the ‘ceded’ lands is completely unbroken and unclouded and that the claims contained within the 1993 Apology Resolution had been adjudicated 83 years earlier by a US court which had been accepted as legitimate by private citizen Liliuokalani Dominis. Queen Liliuokalani’s separate personal properties were never seized by the Republic nor by the United States and are preserved today for the benefit of Hawaiian orphans as the 6,362 acre Liliuokalani Trust.

Oral arguments on the ceded lands case are scheduled for February 25, 2009. This modern rework of Liliuokalani v United States stems from a dispute between the State of Hawaii and the State Office of Hawaiian Affairs (OHA) over a 1990 Waihee administration plan to sell ceded lands for affordable housing projects at Lahaina, Maui and Kailua-Kona, Hawaii. OHA’s suit blocking the project was filed in 1995 under another Democrat Governor, Ben Cayetano. The final appeal is being pursued by the Republican Linda Lingle administration. Lack of affordable housing is a primary reason why nearly 10,000 residents left Hawaii in 2007-a rate of exodus proportionally greater than that of communist Cuba. This is but one example of how OHA/Akaka policy directly harms native Hawaiians.

US Solicitor General Edwin S Kneedler, a highly-respected Bush Administration holdover, has joined the State in its appeal and will be presenting oral arguments alongside Hawaii Attorney General Mark Bennett. Knowing that its defeat is imminent before the Court, OHA-organized demonstrators have demanded that the State abandon its right to access the courts. Failing that, the Hawaii legislature is advancing legislation abandoning its right to sell ceded lands-in violation of its obligations under the 1959 Admission Act. Governor Lingle has indicated she would likely sign the legislation depending on its details. She argues that Hawaiians have a moral claim on the ceded lands, but not a legal one.

If a reservation with its own legal jurisdiction is formed, the few Hawaiians who actually join the Akaka Tribe will be second class citizens lacking the protection of the US Constitution, because the Bill of Rights does not automatically apply on sovereign Indian Reservations. Future “Broken Trust” trustees will not be under the jurisdiction of future State Attorneys General. Not only will they be able to buy politicians nationwide because campaign spending laws do not apply but they will be able to strip the $9 billion Kamehameha Schools trust clean and nobody outside their Akaka Tribe will have legal authority stop them.

This all has a precedent. In 1995 the corrupt “Broken Trust” Kamehameha Schools trustees commissioned ex-Governor Waihee to consider re-location of Kamehameha Schools’ legal domicile out of Hawaii in order to shield their illegal activities from State and federal investigators. His choice? The Cheyenne River Sioux Indian Reservation–the most ‘sovereign’ reservation in the US.

In The Cheating of America Cayetano’s Attorney General Margery Bronster explains the corrupt Trustees’ motivations: “Their main motivation was to avoid oversight from the state attorney general and the IRS.” Senator Akaka’s only comment on the years-long scandal? He complained the corrupt Trustees’ $1-million-per-year salaries were not high enough. The move to Cheyenne River was never made and the trustees were finally forced to resign in 1999 when the IRS threatened to revoke Kamehameha Schools’ tax-exempt status. Six months after the IRS ousted the trustees, the first version of the Akaka Bill was introduced in Congress. Instead of moving to the reservation, they would build a reservation around themselves.

The Office of Hawaiian Affairs has for years funded a so-called ‘sovereignty movement’ comprised largely of convicted criminals who intimidate other native Hawaiians. These OHA goons pretend to oppose the Akaka Bill by creating the illusion of a movement for independence. In reality, their function is to serve as enforcers among Hawaiians now and under the future tribe. Within the tribal electorate set up by the Akaka Bill, the sovereignty activists will demand formation of the most ‘sovereign’ type of tribal government–just like the Cheyenne River Sioux Indian reservation.

Kamehameha Schools’ ability to serve native Hawaiian children could be not only protected, but expanded with a statewide school voucher system. The schools would then be able to end their discriminatory admission policy without excluding any Hawaiian children. But vouchers are not on the political agenda in a state where the largest and wealthiest single private landowner is a private school. Why? A voucher system cannot exempt the political and economic machinations of Kamehameha Schools trustees from State or Federal legal jurisdiction.

Just as it is in Indian Country, poverty, corruption, and petty dictatorship will be the legacy of the Akaka Tribe and any other Apology Tribe. In that sense the establishment of tribes out of political interest groups is only an extension of the already atrocious conditions created in Democrat-run minority communities such as Barack Obama’s South Chicago, Illinois Senate District. Because of the Tribal exemption from campaign finance laws, and the billions of dollars of real estate at question, the apology movement threatens to place American politics under the financial control of the suddenly-wealthy petty-dictatorial political bosses who run such communities. This scam is a dagger pointed at the very heart of the American political system.

From Hell, Saul Alinsky looks up in awe.

 
 

Full points to MzNicky.
Mark me down in the column of those who don’t consider a story about Indian slums written and directed by two white Brits that has a name whut offends the actual inhabitants of Indian slums to be much of an artistic achievement.

 
 

The copy pasta troll did better with his Savonarola thang in the previous thread. That’s awfully boring up above, I’m sure. No I haven’t read it but without biblical quotations how can it be any good?

Also, just saw the opening number. Hugh Jackman is an amazingly talented guy.

 
 

Also, just saw the opening number. Hugh Jackman is an amazingly talented guy.

I agree, but that horrible, orange spray-on tan of his made me think there was something wrong with my TV.

 
 

Apology tribe??? Well excusssssse me!
Kadda dadidda ching.
Try the veal.

 
 

Okay, just saw Tilda Swinton fawning over Marisa Tomei for showing her tits in The Wrestler — I’m done with this crap.

 
 

Wait, let me fix that:

Okay, just saw Tilda Swinton fawning over Marisa Tomei for showing her tits (again) in The Wrestler — I’m done with this crap.

 
 

My pretty liberal mother sounds like a wingnut when she talks about the academy awards: “they never give Oscars to American actors” (which isn’t even remotely true). She won’t like this Penelope Cruz win. I saw the movie – I thought she over-acted.

 
 

I’m watching the Laker game, and am now headed for Taco Smell.

But I will be contemplating Ms. Swinton “fawning” over Ms. Tomei & her breasts for wks. to come.

 
 

Travelers often complain that the world is becoming homogenized

Gee. Could that have anything to do with the fact that the same travelers bitched themselves blue when they traveled thousands of miles from home and found things were different?

Christ.

He plans to benefit, by leading visitors around his neighborhood and catering to the international appetite for slum tourism.

Here’s hoping the tourists are used to cater to the residents’ appetite for meat.

 
 

Maybe I’m just still pissed and drunk because of Syracuse blowing it against Villanova, but I can’t possibly be the only one who sees the farce of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie Pitt BOTH getting nominated for best actor/actress, even though Pitt is a fucking terrible actor, and Jolie is, at best, competent?

At least in the non-gay Superbowl, the winners deserve it. And I would still think that even if Kurt “Jesus Loves Me” Warner won.

 
 

The Akaka Bill: A Cash Cow for Democrats said,
February 23, 2009 at 3:33

My butt hurts!

Too bad, spammer.

 
How many liberals will stand up for free speech?
 

How many liberals and “progressives” here think a person should be thrown in prison for saying that the Koran is similar to Mein Kampf?

 
 

Gee. Could that have anything to do with the fact that the same travelers bitched themselves blue when they traveled thousands of miles from home and found things were different?

In Germany, the Bavarians are frequerntly considered like our own dear Southrons – stupid nasty people. So whenever I run across Germans (who never seem to realize that some people in the US might actually understand a bit of what they’re saying) I say, in my abysmal accent and probably needing a spanking from the German Grammar Police:

Wenn ein Bayerischer fremd geht und dabei nicht froh sein kann, ein Bayerischer sollte nach Heim kehren, ne?

 
 

When they’re bitching, I mean. I don’t just say it to anybody. Sheesh.

Fick dich Wortpress, du miserabler horrensohn

 
 

Uh … what did you say?

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

“If more Bavarian strangely goes and cannot be glad, more Bavarian ne should turn after home?”

 
A Simple Question
 

So liberals, with Bush gone who will you blame for all your problems now?

 
 

We’ll blame Clinton!

Wait.

 
A Simple Question
 

It will be a real pleasure to watch Obama’s approval ratings slowly circle the drain as the country spirals deeper into recession. Today he just came out for massive tax hikes, and that will only drive the economy down further.

*glug glug glug* One term, you’re done!

 
 

I hope Jon Stewart wins for Scumdog Million-Hairs.

I am hopelessly torn between Rourke and Penn for best actor. I think they’ll give it to Rourke as a pity-fuck.

Rourke’s dog just died, if that helps.

 
 

the Bavarians are frequerntly considered like our own dear Southrons

That’s no shit. My father’s side of the family is Bavarians who moved to Texas after the troubles of 1848, to dodge the draft, etc., & ended up fighting/losing for the South in the War of Northern Aggression.

It’s mostly the Catholic influence oozing up from Italy that makes them that way

 
 

Hugh Jackman is an amazingly talented guy.

Hugh Jackman doesn’t need to be talented. I should know, he sat in front of me and behind me at a movie festival and well…it was hard to concentrate on the movie.

 
 

I sed, when a bavarian goes traveling, and can’t be happy for that precise reason, he oughta git his ass back to bavaria, right?

I wuz jus try’n to say what you sed but with some worldly wise, suaveitudinous way.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

I should know, he sat in front of me and behind me at a movie festival…

Had he literally eaten you?

 
 

Better translation: If you fucking Nazis don’t like it away from home, why don’t you fucking go back & stay there? (Perhaps a bit meaner than originally intended.)

Munich: Capital of Bavaria & Beer Hall Putschen.

 
 

Two movies, Rusty.

 
 

he sat in front of me and behind me at a movie festival and well…it was hard to concentrate on the movie.

Did he smell that bad? Didn’t know Wolverine could be in two seats at the same time.

No, no, I know what you mean, just having fun.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Didn’t know Wolverine could be in two seats at the same time.

More of a job for Nightcrawler.

 
 

Anne Laurie: I thought “Frozen River” was wonderful. It made my spousal unit bawl like a baby, the big lug.

 
 

It will be a real pleasure to watch […] as the country spirals deeper into recession.

Why do they hate America so? All it’s ever done is let them do all they want, to anyone, for the sake of profit, while spouting their lies w/o consequence, but they’re still bitter for some reason.

 
 

It’s mostly the Catholic influence oozing up from Italy that makes them that way

Hah! I grew up (yeh, I lived there for 18 years but you know what I mean) in a little town in the boonies of Penislavia which, until WW I – aka the big one – was officially Sanct Marienstadt. Buncha German Katlicks. First Benedictine nunnery in the US. Amazingly, almost as many churches as bars. A place in which the town square is a triangle callled “the diamond.” Story goes, the streets are so fucked up because they thought they would lay out a nice geometric pattern when they got there but the hills and shit made that impossible so they carted some beer kegs to the tops of the hills and rolled them down. Wherever the kegs went, so did the streets follow.

Straub’s Beer, though, was a decided plus. Even after I took the tour (first time at 14 or so) and realized what they were putting in the tanks was the sweepings from the Post Toasties factory, I jess caint get me enough o’ dem greenies.

Way way back in the dawn of time, which would be the late 60’s for me, I guess, Straub Beer was sold in six packs consisting of tough plastic bags with 1/2 dozen bottles therein. You would buy a few, toss in some ice and had for the lake/woods/camp/diamond/nearest corner and have nicely iced brews. Then you could easily pack out the empties in those same bags.

Sounds like an idea whose time has come again.

Also, no salt, no sugar, no syrups, no preservatives. Although there was that one bad batch that caused no…ahem…end of problems.

 
 

Prediction: Jack Nicholson hipchecks acceptor of Heath Ledger’s award, belligerently insisting he is “real Joker” and that audience is “full of pansies.”

 
 

At least in the non-gay Superbowl, the winners deserve it.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

 
The Ghost of Cesar Romero
 

Prediction: Jack Nicholson hipchecks acceptor of Heath Ledger’s award, belligerently insisting he is “real Joker” and that audience is “full of pansies.”

I’m on it

 
 

LOL did you SEE what jessica biel was wearing OMFG!

 
 

Wait, if the Bush Jr’ites got to blame all the problems under their watch on Bill Clinton / Nancy Pelosi / Barney Frank, why do we have to give up blaming Republicans one month into the new administration?

Good god, rightards don’t think Bush Jr. should be blamed for the 9/11 attacks which occurred 8 months into his super-awesome mandate Preznitzy and yet Bill Clinton was blamed for the 1993 WTC truck/garage bomb which was carried out just over 1 month into his.

Of course, to Bill Clinton’s credit, he wasn’t so god-awfully incompetent and uncaring about U.S. security that he let them knock the WTC’s down, along with taking out 1 of the Pentagon’s 5 sides and crashing 4 jetliners in terrorist hijackings.

 
 

You know, my favorite thing about gloat-trolls is that they’ve picked up the very basic language of doomsaying and shoved it wholesale into their crude, gloating idiom, only they lack the intelligence or concern for causal forces (all good comes from the Party, all bad from George Soros, amen) to actually make accurate predictions, and the postdictions they actually manage to get coherent no longer have the full-spectrum corporate backing to become the historical narrative.

I mean, to be fair, the long, slow tumble in popularity of the Republican Party among anyone but straight upper-middle-class white male evangelicals in the midwest and border South (and even them, although slowly enough they like to count it as a gain), the two-digit margins by which Obama delivered swing states and the general esteem in which the public (including at least half of Republicans, if every poll since 2008 is to be believed) has viewed his Presidency in spite of a slow start and a relentless, all-out GOP rat-fucking campaign – all of that is obviously some manner of Jewish hoax, and we should preserve his bonnes mots to rue when his every declaration from on high comes true as if scripted into a particularly dictatorial Steven Seagal movie.

You know, with some kind of book-mark.

 
 

LOL did you SEE what jessica biel was wearing OMFG!

If it’s visible clothing I’m not interested.

 
 

Unless of course it’s Bjørk in a dead goose.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Worst liveblogging ever going on over at Big Ho.

Example:

Part of editing involves the ability to Ccut stuff out

 
 

i went to a movie w/ my friend & sexual associate at least once, maybe twice in this millenium, but i can’t for the life of me remember it/them.

gee, i always remember my sexual associates. friends, not so much.

 
 

drew42 said,

“Pitt is a fucking terrible actor”

I beg to differ. He’s actually much better than he has to be, given his gorgeousness. He was good in Seven, and amusingly incomprehensible in Snatch. He can coast in all the Ocean’s movies, and was (per the role) opaque in Meet Joe Black (or whatever it was–I’ve had two==ie, three–vodka tonics), but come on: you gainsay Fight Club?

I think he has an inner life which he knows it’s his job to hint at. As opposed to actors who try to bully you with their personalities and call it “truth.”

I haven’t see Burn After Reading (better title: Burn Before Reading), but still.

 
 

I thought Burn After Reading was damn funny.

 
 

GOP-ers are still blaming Jimmy Carter and FDR for shit…..Now those Redfaced Southern-rumpist dildoes want us to forget Bush has been shoveling shit on the Constitution and the economy for 8 years?

I don’t think so.

-GSD

 
 

Me too, El Cid. I really enjoyed it. (Frances McDormand can do no wrong.)

 
 

Brad Pitt was pretty damned good in TWELVE MONKEYS. Which may just prove that Pitt was born to play hyperactive, anti-social crazies.

 
 

GOP-ers are still blaming Jimmy Carter and FDR for shit

The Republican Party stopped being answerable to anyone who understood that Adlai Stevenson leaving holes in his shoes like some kind of fag wasn’t a pressing electoral issue around 1997, and they stopped being answerable to anyone who could tell you anything else about Stevenson when Rove retired.

 
 

I sed, when a bavarian goes traveling, and can’t be happy for that precise reason, he oughta git his ass back to bavaria, right?

Ah. Much nicer than “Go the fuck home you WATB.”

Not that I’d ever say that to any of the 9,000,000,000,000 tourists that descend upon my fair city.

 
 

even though Pitt is a fucking terrible actor, and Jolie is, at best, competent

funny, I’d say the reverse is true but maybe we’re both incapable of being objective.

 
 

even though Pitt is a fucking terrible actor, and Jolie is, at best, competent

funny, I’d say the reverse is true but maybe we’re both incapable of being objective.

One of the most tragic legacies of the profoundly sexist star-system is that Hollywood is a grim, inhospitable place for women, who are selected largely for being attractive and in certain generations (the Brat Pack comes to mind) were barely more likely to contain strong actresses than the average Episcopalian congregation.

Of course, even women who can act are often treated basically like spoilt meat at 40, while their pretty-boy equivalents get hauled out regularly into geriatrics.

 
 

Pitt is teh hawt. The only really good work he’s done is, as someone (Anne?) pointed out, 12 monkays. But fuck, he is teh hawt.

 
 

The only really good work he’s done is, as someone (Anne?) pointed out, 12 monkays. But fuck, he is teh hawt.

Bite your tongue! He was great in True Romance and Snatch.

 
 

Of course, even women who can act are often treated basically like spoilt meat at 40

Exceptions: Helen Mirren, Meryl Streep, Marissa Tomei, Judi Dench

 
 

Do you mean Dame Judi Dench, and Dame Helen Mirren?

And Meryl Streep is fucking fabulous, never been anything but. And where’s the love for Faye Dunaway?

 
 

Jerry Lewis gave a brief and gracious speech.

Isn’t this a sign the Apocalypse is imminent?

 
 

I heart Sean Penn. That is all.

 
 

You’re all wrong. Pitt is fucking terrible, and you all suck for claiming otherwise. Playing Generic Cross-Eyed Crazy Guy in 12 Monkeys doesn’t make him good. And his face looks like a leathery tree trunk.

He’s like Hayden Christensen bad. I’d say Chris Klein bad, except that most people have probably forgotten who that is, a fate which Pitt has long deserved.

Seriously, he somehow managed to make Tom Cruise look talented by comparison in that Big Gay Vampire movie. Let me re-state: Pitt was out-acted by Tom Fucking Cruise. And it wasn’t even close.

And now I just turned on the TV to see five women standing on stage waxing poetic about the wonderous gifts Anne Hathaway has brought to the world. Have some of you actually sat through four hours of this shit?

 
 

Have some of you actually sat through four hours of this shit?

I don’t remember the last time I watched this shit. It may have been 30 years ago, though I can’t be sure, because it evidently wasn’t too memorable. Awards shows are unbearable generally, and I suspect I’ve simply blocked the more awful ones. Though I do remember the time David Niven got streaked.

 
 

I haven’t seen a decent movie since ‘Gone With the Wind.’

 
 

He’s like Hayden Christensen bad. I’d say Chris Klein bad, except that most people have probably forgotten who that is, a fate which Pitt has long deserved.

He’s really not that bad. Actually, I don’t know how you could say he’s Hayden Christensen bad because nobody’s Hayden Christensen bad except…Hayden Christensen.

And now I just turned on the TV to see five women standing on stage waxing poetic about the wonderous gifts Anne Hathaway has brought to the world. Have some of you actually sat through four hours of this shit?

But what do you expect? The old guard is passing the torch. It remains to be seen whether her full body of work will justify the praise, but for better or for worse, she’s the future.

 
 

He’s like Hayden Christensen bad.

No he is not. I just watched one a those fucking Star Wars wrequels and that guy is not an actor at all.

 
 

Pitt blows. I kind of wished the Hey! It’s That Guy! guy won Best Actor (he was really good), but Penn was a good choice and so would Mickey Rourke have been. Sophia Loren still gives me a boner, although that is some high-maintenance shit. I’m still a bit disappointed about Kung Fu Panda, actually. Whatever … I’m too invested in cartoons, what with having kids. By the way, remember when The Black Stallion was up for Best Picture? It was a real dark horse. Also, I’m here all night.

 
 

I think Hollywood has made a grave mistake. All this praise for Slumdog is just laying the groundwork for Bobby Jindal in 2012.

 
 

Jindal was on Press the Meat this morning, grandstanding about not accepting stimulus money. Jackass.

 
 

It was a real dark horse. Also, I’m here all night.

You forgot “Try the veal.” And agreed on wanting to see “Hey It’s That Guy!” win, but at the least Penn’s speech gives the wingnuts plenty of fuel and thereby Sadly No plenty more material for abuse.

 
 

My bitterness is reserved for Republicans and other assholes who do harm.

Have some of you actually sat through four hours of this shit?

That would require sitting through two hours of commercials.

 
 

“Mark me down in the column of those who don’t consider a story about Indian slums written and directed by two white Brits that has a name whut offends the actual inhabitants of Indian slums to be much of an artistic achievement.”

Yeah, and that Jackson guy wasn’t even a hobbit.

 
 

I have yet to be blown away by Anne Hathaway in a movie, but lemme tell ya — having seen her live, onstage acting and singing (beautifully) in a limited run revival of the sticky-sweet musical “Carnival,” she is capable of being positively exquisite. I mean it.

 
 

HAHAHAHHA Sean Penn (as noted above, not a person I’ve been much fond of, gave a great performance and then pissed off a buncha people wit his acceptance speech. Good for him

Brad Pitt is not a great actor. He’s not even a very good actor but his 12 monkays role was not too bad. But he’s still teh hawt.

I’d do him him. Tom Cruise? Even Keanu Reeves can’t make Tom Cruise seem good.

 
 

By the way, to the Sophia Loren fans, rent “Boccacchio ’70.” Hers is the last segment (directed by de Sica) and you’ll never, ever get over her performance. Pure sex, pure comedy, pure heart — everything a movie goddess should be and more.

 
 

Brad Pitt has some humility. Tom Cruise has none. At least Pitt doesn’t run around promoting himself as the next best thing since sliced bread. He’s also more than a little embarrassed by all the attention paid to his looks. He’s also not a lame ass cult follower.

 
 

At least Pitt doesn’t run around promoting himself as the next best thing since sliced bread… He’s also not a lame ass cult follower.

… Apart from the Cult of Jolie! *rimshot*. Heck, I’m shameless, I’d do either one of ’em, as long as they left the kid-pack home with the nannys.

 
 

He’s also not a lame ass cult follower.

Good point. The Steve Martin/Tina Fey poke at Scientology was one of the few sparks of wit all evening.

 
 

hilarious take on Denny’s nannerpus ad, shamelessly exploiting cute child.

 
 

Apart from the Cult of Jolie!

Okay, so he’s a very-nice-ass cult follower.

all week
veal
etc.

 
 

Yeah, and that Jackson guy wasn’t even a hobbit.

I wasn’t aware hobbits exist and are capable of speaking for themselves in ways which aren’t inherently insulting to them.

 
 

meh.

ffucking ffireffox.

 
 

And a mighty middle finger to the whole circle jerk for pre-empting my Sunday evening cartoons, which now represent the only non-news programming I actively try to watch in a week (having given up on House and decided to just DL Battlestar Gallactica when I have the time for it).

 
 

I once saw Peter Jackson on TV explaining why the Oscars didn’t mean much to him – because they are voted for by industry insiders who have far too much of a life to actually go to the movies and will probably just vote for the movie that their friend worked on or the movie that threw the best wrap party. Of course, this was before he’d won about 11 billion of the darn things for his Trilogy Of Cheesy Special-Effects Blockbusters That For Some Reason Were Treated Like The New Citizen Kane, so perhaps he’s got a newfound respect for them since then.

 
 

I once saw Peter Jackson on TV explaining why the Oscars didn’t mean much to him – because they are voted for by industry insiders who have far too much of a life to actually go to the movies and will probably just vote for the movie that their friend worked on or the movie that threw the best wrap party. Of course, this was before he’d won about 11 billion of the darn things for his Trilogy Of Cheesy Special-Effects Blockbusters That For Some Reason Were Treated Like The New Citizen Kane, so perhaps he’s got a newfound respect for them since then.

Here is a review of the LOTR films you might like. He considers the LOTR books generally to be mainly worthwhile as children’s literature, so he regards Jackson as essentially a pederast.

 
 

Oh, and the favorite thing of mine that Bond fails to mention – the one that makes the mocking title Peter Jackson’s World of Warcraft worthwhile – is that, where Tolkien essentially wrote his dwarves as Wagner’s delving Semites taken to their logical conclusion and stripped of the racist baggage, Jackson can’t help but make them into wee honorable Scotch beardos. He just doesn’t have a single creative bone in his entire fucking body.

 
 

Hollywood is a grim, inhospitable place for women, who are selected largely for being attractive

Which makes it different from everywhere else on earth how?

 
 

And leave us not forget young Brad Pitt in “Thelma and Louise.” Damn near stole the movie.

 
 

Also I agree with Lesley: Frances McDormand is a goddess. Late to the thread and catching up as usual.

 
 

I never watch the Oscars but instead just read the next-day review of it at salon dot com. Very entertaining coverage of the event, and I didn’t have to watch any of it.

 
 

He just doesn’t have a single creative bone in his entire fucking body.

Having watched Heavenly Creatures on TV the other night, I might disagree there, or amend to ‘a single creative bone left in his entire fuckin body’. I liked his old stuff, in other words.

During the height of the LOTR hype I saw some Breakfast News cretin opining that, even though she had never seen or indeed heard of Bad Taste or Brain Dead, she absolutely loved Peter Jackson – by which she obviously meant she loved LOTR, which I would bet dollars to donuts was the first time she’d heard of the director. I would love to have asked her what directorial flourishes she particularly enjoyed – the endless helicopter shots, or the computer graphics?

Although childhood memory is obviously far from flawed, it’s my recollection that the animated Ralph Bakshi version had ten times more menace and mystery. And of course, the line “Nobody tosses a dwarf” on its own should be enough to have Jackson’s LOTR immediately ejected from any consideration as a serious, actually-good-rather-than-just-enjoyable movie.

 
 

Which makes it different from everywhere else on earth how?

Point, although whether or not the inclination for something like what Joan Rivers did to herself exists in the rest of the country the resources typically don’t.

 
 

Oh, and shield-surfing elves. For fuck’s sake.

 
 

Having watched Heavenly Creatures on TV the other night, I might disagree there, or amend to ‘a single creative bone left in his entire fuckin body’. I liked his old stuff, in other words.

There’s an entire [classic TV show / proto-Internet meme / inexplicably high profile of James Lileks] based on how little talent it takes to make workmanlike horror, mind you.

 
 

I liked that review; it said many things that I’ve been saying about Jackson’s LOTR for years. Not publicly, of course – I learned my lesson about that when both my father and brother, on two separate occasions and to my slack-jawed amazement, had to either leave the room or angrily suggest a change of subject in response to me slagging off those stupid-ass films. Hype is apparently a powerful thing.

 
 

I admit that I like to watch the Oscars. As a former industry participant I always think that I’ll see someone I know/worked with back in the day. Usually I do. I like that the tech awards get more attention that they used to – as in they get attention AT ALL these days. The girl digs the red carpet stuff and yelling at the TV whenever Batman DIDN’T win an award, and I like seeing clips of the performances, which for some reason they didn’t do this year. That was a big drag. I couldn’t stand the 5 old winners gushing over the 5 nominees. Jackman was much more entertaining than I expected.

Put me down for being a fan of Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. I could care less about their personal lives; I just enjoy their pictures. I don’t see how anyone could watch Fight Club and think that Pitt isn’t a good actor, and I don’t see how anyone could watch Tropic Thunder and think the same about Cruise.

Alas.

 
 

So LOTR is crap because… the visuals are too faithful to the book? Because they cut out a ton of useless dialogue in order to make it filmable watchable? And “product placement” for New Zealand? lol

 
 

The only way the guy who said “Domo arigato, Mr. Robto” could have been any better is if he had said “sexxxxxxy American girrrrrrlfriend” ala Long Duck Dong in Sixteen Candles….

 
 

D. Aristophanes, I thought the Gay Super Bowl was the Tonys.

Oh, did somebody say that already? Never mind.

 
 

Legalize: I thought Tom Cruise was hilarious in “Tropic Thunder” too. He was adorable in “Risky Business.” I have enjoyed eyeing him over the years. Good actor? Hell if I know.

 
 

I thought Tom Cruise was hilarious in Tropic Thunder, too – he was so good he redeemed himself in my book, I now no longer have a totally negative opinion of him.

“Tropic Thunder” was a movie I didn’t expect I’d like, but I howled with laughter throughout the entire thing.

 
 

“Tropic Thunder” was a movie I didn’t expect I’d like, but I howled with laughter throughout the entire thing.

It’s one of the rare movies where there’s several legitimate controversies and I find myself accepting the editorial decisions leading to them beyond pure appreciation for shock value.

If I had one thing to do I’d get a stronger actor to do Alpa Chino, especially for the interaction with Morgan Glover-Face Russell Crowe. Even as it is, it’s great.

 
 

Re Cruise: See also, Magnolia, Collateral and Eyes Wide Shut. I even like him in action / sci-fi stuff, namely the Mission Impossible joints, MInority Report and War of the Worlds. He was kind of annoying in Born on the Fourth of July and Rainman, but whatever. A Few Good Men? Totally fine for what it was. Etc. An actor doesn’t have to turn in an On the Waterfront-esque performance for me to dig what he/she does. Sure, Days of Thunder kind of sucked, but Nicole Kidman, Tony Scott, and the rest of the cast of that movie assisted in its suckiness.

Why am I defending Tom Cruise this morning?

 
 

Tom Cruise isn’t as bad as his horrible public life leads one to think he would be. His scene in Tropic Thunder of threatening (on the phone) the leader of
the rebels, or coke processors, or whoever they were, was fucking hilarious. And he wasn’t bad in War of the Worlds. It’s his public posturing and the Scientology bullshit that’s so nauseating. Too bad.

And yes: Twelve Monkeys. I think Thelma and Louise was Pitt’s first movie.

 
 

By a wierd coincidence I was watching the passable Vanilla Sky last night, a film that succeeds despite the presence of Tom Cruise rather than because of it. Tom’s ability to single-handedly destroy any sexual chemistry between himself and Penelope Cruz with his crappy acting is obviously especially amusing considering that he went on to date her for several years.

 
 

I’ll see you around.

People normally say that when they intend never, ever to see the person they’re saying it to again, except by random chance, which can’t happen on an internet forum. So, y’know, for the sake of etymological accuracy, BYE.

 
Rusty Shackleford
 

Going on record as a Tom Cruise fan, though I think he’s a bit of a wackjob in his personal life. Also a Brad Pitt fan.

 
 

I do agree that when Cruise is asked to participate in some sort of “romantic” chemistry with a real live woman, things can get pretty dicey. When he’s running around jumping off of buildings or shooting shit, and/or playing a sociopathic asshole, things usually go pretty well for him. The chemistry between he and Kidman in Eyes Wide Shut was bizarre and uncomfortable, but I think that was Kubrick’s point with respect to their relationship.

Re Vanilla Sky: I think it has to be considered that it just wasn’t a very good movie in the first place. Cameron Crowe should be directing after-school specials, instead of movies for grown-ups.

 
 

“the desperately overacted acting gay actor”

Also, he acted.

 
 

I think it has to be considered that it just wasn’t a very good movie in the first place

From what I hear it’s at least a cover version of a good movie; I haven’t managed to see Abre Los Ojos yet, but the Cruise vehicle certainly made me want to.

 
 

Learning about Cuba, and having some food.

 
 

Say, anyone remember BIFF@BIFF.BIFFNET?

BIFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! B1FF IZ A R33LY K@@L D00D !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for reminding me of how I squandered my youth…

 
 

I’m with Mr. Wonderful — I loves me some Brad Pitt (Snatch, Burn After Reading)!!! I always think guys who diss good-looking actors are just jealous.

As for the troll, I wonder what his, er, bonafides for criticizing an actor for “overacting” gay are.

 
 

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